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Tuesday, June 04, 2019

A million times worse

Ann Coulter is not wrong. I've been trying to explain this to Americans who mindlessly mourn "Europe is lost" while failing to realize that their own situation is considerably more dire:
This stunning demographic replacement matters because American culture is the envy of the world. Not only was this wonderful culture created by white Western Europeans, but merely asking immigrants to assimilate to it is generally considered a hate crime.

If everyone assimilated to our culture, who cares what race they are? But given sufficient numbers, they don't. They don't need to, and we certainly aren’t asking them to. The reason we successfully assimilated not-so-different European cultures was that we controlled the numbers -- essentially stopping immigration for 50 years while we forged an American character.

Let's compare our demographic situation to the European countries we're weeping over. France is still about 80% French (85% Western European), and England is about 80% English (85% Western European). Even Holland is still approximately 76% Dutch (80% Western European).

What we're witnessing in Europe is that continent's first brush with the joys of diversity.

American conservatives' obsession with Europe's snail-like introduction to diversity, while ignoring a demographic tsunami in their own country, is the mirror image of neoconservatives' fixation on unrest in the Middle East, while ignoring the invasion on our border.

When did it become deplorable, Walmart-y behavior to care about your own country? Not to care more, but merely to care as much as you do about the rest of the world?

It seems as if progress is inevitable, that things always get better and never retrogress. But the Roman Empire had philosophers, literature, science, great buildings, statues and works of art. It had advanced communication, plumbing and transportation systems. It had a universal set of measures, laws and rules.

And then the Dark Ages came. In the blink of an eye, all that was lost. The people no longer had the technological know-how even to repair bridges and aqueducts built by the Romans. They had lost the ability to make cement. They lost many of the works of Aristotle. Roads and plumbing fell into disrepair. Statues crumbled. Nikki Haley would be happy!

Only centuries later did civilization begin to reassert itself, barely climbing back to the accomplishments of several centuries earlier.
Not only is Europe's situation less severe, but the European nations are reacting much, much more strongly than Americans, still caught up in their moronic civic nationalism, are. Even as she plays Cassandra, Ann Coulter STILL feels the need to make a nod to equalitarianism.

At this point, it is far too late for anything but very, very large scale repatriations to prevent the complete collapse of the USA. But there is not a single US politician who is even remotely willing to seriously address the problem.

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Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid June 04, 2019 7:15 PM  

The "Greatest" Generation and the Boomers watered the seeds that the Great Destroyers planted and now America is certainly doomed without record annihilating deportations, which of course would only be possibly after a civil war. If Gen Z can pull this off, the Destroyers have to be deported as well.

Blogger Up from the pond June 04, 2019 7:23 PM  

Operation Wetback in 1954 deported 1,078,168 Mexicans, known as "Wetbacks."

But: "During the entirety of the Operation [Wetback], border recruitment of illegal workers by American growers continued due largely to the low cost of illegal labor, and the desire of growers to avoid the bureaucratic obstacles of the Bracero program. The continuation of illegal immigration despite the efforts of Operation Wetback was largely responsible for the failure of the program."
https://infogalactic.com/info/Operation_Wetback

Enforcers of national borders should always begin by imposing long prison sentences on the morals-free capitalists whose greed for slave labor provides the chief rationale and impetus for invasion.

Personally, I favor just deporting them along with their slaves. I like saving money, too.

Blogger AdognamedOp June 04, 2019 7:35 PM  

Well when you have muslim hordes invading and blowing up/shooting up concerts, running over mobs of people, stabbings, rape gangs etc, the native reaction will be more intense than reactions to the occasional rapes, murders and DWI killings from our SA invaders here in the States. Trump has adressed the issue and people are waking up to the problem here. It may take longer for thngs to turn in the states but I'd wager we'll see European nations fall before the US falls. Either way, there will be war.

Blogger Gettimothy June 04, 2019 7:39 PM  

Good on Anne.

@2 concur, let the open borders crowd convince us from the Congo.

Blogger gunner451 June 04, 2019 7:44 PM  

Really kind of pointless to see which one goes across the demographic death zone line first, Europe or the US, they'll both still find themselves third world s#$tholes sometime after the mid-century as white birth rates continue to collapse while the invaders continue to proliferate. Eastern Europe and Russia may be able to hold fast but anything west of Germany looks to be sliding downhill fast.

The real problem is that the driver for Western civilization was Christianity which in both the US and Europe has pretty much been chucked for secular humanism and the welfare state. That and giving women the right to vote has pretty much doomed both. Hopefully our new masters will be more tolerant of us than the South Africans are to their declining white population but I kind of doubt it.

Blogger megabar June 04, 2019 7:51 PM  

I agree, in that in Europe, political solutions are still viable. If immigration was stopped and refugees booted -- both within the realm of plausible actions in today's world -- the native populations would all maintain political dominance in perpetuity, as far as I know.

That is not true in the US, where the minorities are mostly legal, already have substantial voting power, and that voting power will only grow over time for the foreseeable future. They likely already have enough political power to block the drastic political measures needed to restore the demographics.

Put another way, demographic changes have a point of no (easy) return. The US is likely past that point; Europe is not.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 04, 2019 8:08 PM  

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Blogger Jeroth June 04, 2019 8:11 PM  

Americans have been reduced to taking pride in the fact that their invaders aren't Muslim.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 04, 2019 8:11 PM  

the European nations are reacting much, much more strongly than Americans, still caught up in their moronic civic nationalism, are

Americans just can't let go of the notion that we "solved" all the political problems Europe had, and thus are somehow safe from collapse.


I'd wager we'll see European nations fall before the US falls

You seem to conveniently forget one important difference from every European nation: a large legacy population of former imported slaves. That's why even the worst European cities are nothing like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta, East St. Louis, et cetera et cetera.

Blogger Lazarus June 04, 2019 8:12 PM  


Rattlesnake_Kid wrote:The "Greatest" Generation and the Boomers watered the seeds that the Great Destroyers planted and now America is certainly doomed without record annihilating deportations, which of course would only be possibly after a civil war. If Gen Z can pull this off, the Destroyers have to be deported as well.

You can't deport them, you can only exile them. Try and find a country to take the bastards. Good luck.

Best just shoot them, or better yet, carry out post-senile abortions. They are most all into euthanasia, just accommodate them.

In a loving manner, of course.

"Sorry, mom, but we need more compost for next years crops."

Blogger Mystic On Main June 04, 2019 8:15 PM  

"At this point, it is far too late for anything but very, very large scale repatriations to prevent the complete collapse of the USA. But there is not a single US politician who is even remotely willing to seriously address the problem."

How do you respond to the person who reads this and responds, "So what? I"ll be dead in 30 years if all goes well, I expect to meet my savior, my kids are taken care of, what do I care what happens. Let Gen Z figure it out."

Blogger Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) June 04, 2019 8:15 PM  

I recall years ago listening to a lecture hosted by Intercollegiate Studies Institute. The speaker was European, French I think, and had been brought over as a guest. His speech was framed as a warning to America about the dangers of Muslim immigration. He told horror stories about France and his attitude was that basically it's too late for France and Europe, but America still has time. After that I read Decline and Fall: Europe's Slow Motion Suicide by Bruce Thornton, a major ISI speaker and writer. He says basically the same thing, including a chapter called "Eurabia."

This was ten years ago. None of these ISI people had much of anything to say about America's demographic problem, and they still don't. Victor Davis Hanson wrote Mexifornia about the problem relative to California, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Cowards, the lot of them.

Blogger Clay June 04, 2019 8:17 PM  

Well, to even mention repatriations by a white, you would be considered a "white nationalist". Death knell in politics. In Europe, it seems to be more of a "cultural" construct.

In the US, it's all about "race".

Blogger OneWingedShark June 04, 2019 8:34 PM  

VD wrote:At this point, it is far too late for anything but very, very large scale repatriations to prevent the complete collapse of the USA. But there is not a single US politician who is even remotely willing to seriously address the problem.
I'm more than willing to expel the invaders — the problem is that there's so much brain-washing & indoctrination to the functional equivalent of every country has the right to secure its borders, except the United States.

I suspect that there's far more support for "drastic measures" than we would guess; one of the problems with the media and institutions all being [in effect] enemy-controlled is that the information we get is heavily filtered, and something like "35% of American Citizens are in favor the military using lethal force to deal with the 'immigration' problems." is so contrary to the globalist narrative and so far beyond the pale so as to be nearly unthinkable. — The unfortunate reality is that the longer "harsh measures" are delayed and denied, the more blood will be spilled… by continually kicking the can down the road, our leaders have ensured that what would have been treated with a relatively painless and safe operation will now require critical surgery and an ICU, in the best case.

Jeroth wrote:Americans have been reduced to taking pride in the fact that their invaders aren't Muslim.
Ouch.

Lazarus wrote:

Rattlesnake_Kid wrote:The "Greatest" Generation and the Boomers watered the seeds that the Great Destroyers planted and now America is certainly doomed without record annihilating deportations, which of course would only be possibly after a civil war. If Gen Z can pull this off, the Destroyers have to be deported as well.
You can't deport them, you can only exile them. Try and find a country to take the bastards. Good luck.

I hear Atlantis is nice this time of year; it's the Christian thing to do:
Luke 17:2 [Aramaic Bible in Plain English]
“It were better for him if the millstone of a donkey were hung on his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he would subvert one of these little ones.”

Blogger sammibandit June 04, 2019 8:38 PM  

How do you respond to the person who reads this and responds, "So what? I"ll be dead in 30 years if all goes well, I expect to meet my savior, my kids are taken care of, what do I care what happens. Let Gen Z figure it out."

Depends on the race you're dealing with but I've found "you bring shame on your ancestors" quite effective. Obviously, it works better on asians than blacks but it can and does work on caucasians. What works about it is that it's rhetoric and dialectic. Shame is the game, like Owen says. It works.

If you're dealing with a stubborn nut who whines about respecting elders you simply say that honesty and a forthright opportunity to correct a wrong is respect. Anything less would shirk the duty to respect elders.

If I'm dealing with boomers in my family, I talk about how their choices out of convenience have negatively impacted my life as a minor under their care. It only works if you're willing to be honest.

Blogger Akuma June 04, 2019 8:41 PM  

Theres Mosques in Brooklyn. They are all over the place. Its worse than you think it is.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 04, 2019 8:45 PM  

Part One:

It really is so infuriating whenever an immigration article comes out about Sweden, France, Britain, etc. Yes, without fail so many Americans jump in to castigate and scorn the Europeans for being so foolish to sell themselves down the river. Americans routinely and reliably do this, with a sense of haughtiness, with zero thought about looking in the mirror. They would discover their own situation to be much, much worse!

All that keffufle in 2014 about Merkel's admission of immigrants to Germany? This was over the admission of one million immigrants in one year, into a continent of 500 million people. And that's what sparked the ongoing nationalist backlash in Europe, one that reverberates today. Meanwhile in the USA, 1.5 million legal immigrants are admitted annually, and throw in a million more illegals per year. For a country with only 320 million. Is Europe toast? If so, the USA is burnt toast.

What's especially madenning is the tendency to pick on the French. You know, the "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" that we "had to bail out twice", as it were. Well the French have at least the Yellow Jackets. The French have at least angry Frenchmen who are out on the streets vowing to not take it anymore. Where are America's Yellow Jackets?

Nowhere to be found. We had the Tea Party but it fizzled out. Even our most hard-core protestors on the American right, the tough-as-nails bikers of Rolling Thunder fame, have inexplicably decided to pick up their toys and go home. The streets in America are full of activists -- but all of them, to a man, are of the Left. I even faced no less than THREE of them last weekend in my suburban home. They were environmentalist activists going around seeking signatures to ban polystyrene.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 04, 2019 8:45 PM  

Part Two:

Faced with the European situation, American rightists revel in the Second Amendment. It's like their security blanket and they are Linus. Never mind that the French "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" are out there on the streets of France making more of an effect than American rightists ever seem to muster, and they are doing it without arms. American rightists insist on viewing the Second Amendment as their "Ace-In-The-Hole", it's a damn near messianic belief. Are they all just waiting to deploy it? One day, coming soon, they'll push us too far!!! But what happens if you are sitting on an Ace-In-The-Hole when the poker game prematurely ends? A lot of good that does you. Why do you have to wait until it all goes to crap before you swing in guns a-blazing?

Americans LOVE this "you just wait until we're pissed off" attitude. Even here among the Ilk, one guaranteed way to produce a 100+ or 200+ comment thread is to start talking about what 10 motivated Marines can do to a city. Start talking about how they can shut down the power grid, foul the water supply, etc. American rightists are dedicated to this pattern of sitting there, awaiting the Apocalypse, then they'll spring like no tomorrow!

It's a relic from the assumption of righteousness, I think. Americans are great, good, God-fearing people. No less than Otto von Bismarck famously said, "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America." If that was ever true, is it now? Does God favor a nation that has been wholesale aborting its young since 1972? Does God favor a nation that has outrageously changed the terms of the Holy Sacrament of Marriage? Does God favor a nation that has decided to invent its own gender categories and destroy the ones of nature?

What's worse, to the youth who do survive to maturity here in America, we've hobbled them. They face insane wage competition from foreigners in their midst and ridiculous debt-servitude for doing what we advise them to do - go to college. (For increasingly worthless degrees).

Yeah, try buying a house and starting a family in America today before you're thirty, if you listen to your elders then good luck with that.

(I'm attempting to motivate Americans with all this. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. Trying to light a fire at last. At long last!)

Blogger Hammerli 280 June 04, 2019 8:47 PM  

I think there's more enthusiasm for shipping the illegals back than people realize. The problem is getting the left-of-center political class to realize it.

This won't be a one-battle war. It will be a campaign. We start with the illegals, pointing out that every illegal in this country is money out of taxpayer's pockets...and ultimately, out of our children's mouths. Play that up. Illegal importer = American-hater.

Then proceed to the legal immigrants who have become a burden on the taxpayers. If you're not paying a Share of income tax (around $6K/year for an adult), you're a Burden...and you go back.

Finally, cut immigration back dramatically. Here we play to the historical pattern. If you look at American history, there has been a regular 60-65 year cycle. 30 years of high immigration, followed by 30 years of low immigration. It's long past time for a low immigration period.

Blogger sammibandit June 04, 2019 8:47 PM  

VD, is this post to test the readers if they read the OP? Or if they read the rules about black pilling?

Blogger Meng Greenleaf June 04, 2019 8:50 PM  

I'm still reeling over the idea of 800,000 or 8 million Somali living in WI. It's literally insane. I mean, literally........ insanity. Poor America.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf June 04, 2019 8:52 PM  

Rattlesnake_Kid wrote:The "Greatest" Generation and the Boomers watered the seeds that the Great Destroyers planted and now America is certainly doomed without record annihilating deportations, which of course would only be possibly after a civil war. If Gen Z can pull this off, the Destroyers have to be deported as well. Winter cannot come quickly enough....

Blogger Crew June 04, 2019 9:00 PM  

The battle will come ... just as the Civil War happened ...

Blogger VD June 04, 2019 9:06 PM  

I'm attempting to motivate Americans with all this. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. Trying to light a fire at last. At long last!

Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 04, 2019 9:10 PM  

VD wrote:I'm attempting to motivate Americans with all this. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. Trying to light a fire at last. At long last!

Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.


I hear ya. I agree.

Blogger Matt June 04, 2019 9:12 PM  

NYC is a disgusting slum. Hardly worth mentioning Brooklyn mosques (lowercase, please), as it's a given. If I want saddles with a dump that needs fixing and 2 useless family members after my mother passed, I'd have left already.

Blogger pyrrhus June 04, 2019 9:14 PM  

America has swallowed more than a century of poisonous multi-cultural propaganda created by our "Judeo-Christian" rulers, while near infinite amounts of American treasure have been expended on foreign wars that only benefitted the Anglo-Zionists...One day fairly soon, there won't be anything left to loot and the ensuing food fight between the natives and the invaders will rip this country apart...

Blogger megabar June 04, 2019 9:16 PM  

> We start with the illegals, ... [snip] ... Then proceed to the legal immigrants

Most minorities are citizens. 47 of the 52 million Hispanics in the US are citizens.

Blogger ZhukovG June 04, 2019 9:17 PM  

I believe that in 50 years time the landmass currently containing the United States and Canada will be 90-93% White European. I believe that Europe will, in the same time, become 95-97% White European.

Political borders in North America will likely change, with new Nation-States forming. European borders will change little if at all.

The world will not be dominated by one or two superpowers, but rather by a group of 'Great Powers'. Most of these 'Great Powers' will be North American or European.

The future is European. We just have to get there.


Blogger sammibandit June 04, 2019 9:18 PM  

Do leftists question how we'll all be put into gulag? No. Do leftists question how we'll all be fired from our jobs, our kids kidnapped and raped? No. Do leftists question how they'll bring down the largest empire the world has ever seen? No.

They just act like they take it on faith because they're too stupid to have doubt before a decision. Why don't we do like they do and worry about doubt after the job is done? I swear, high intelligence is the biggest handicap of the right.

... [Find reasonable accommodation and have as many kids in your family as possible] ...good luck...
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Yep. Owen's right. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and suck a guy. Btw I'm expecting a new Celt-Northman in the world next winter. Thought I should tell y'all and now is a good time.

Blogger Stilicho June 04, 2019 9:20 PM  

Kill them all, let Ted Kennedy sort them out

Blogger DonReynolds June 04, 2019 9:22 PM  

@15 sammibandit
"If you're dealing with a stubborn nut who whines about respecting elders you simply say that honesty and a forthright opportunity to correct a wrong is respect. Anything less would shirk the duty to respect elders.

If I'm dealing with boomers in my family, I talk about how their choices out of convenience have negatively impacted my life as a minor under their care. It only works if you're willing to be honest."

As long as your focus is finding someone to blame or someone who will take the blame, you will never get around to talking about any solution nor will you create any alliances for implementing any solution. No, you will not be able to do this by yourself, no matter where you are.

The blacks in the USA have the same focus...slavery up until 150 years ago is considered wrong today, so somebody living needs to accept the blame and responsibility and pay them an imagined sum, which will solve few, if any, of their problems. But somehow it is owed. Somehow it will be paid and they will have to do nothing in order to receive it.

I honestly and sincerely hope that this country will move to address the problem, but since no one wants to discuss it, there cannot be a political solution. People refusing to admit that a problem exists are insisting on rivers of blood, whether they realize it or not. Without a political solution, only force remains, no matter how unlikely it looks in 2019.

I believe the last time we experienced this sensation was the spring and early summer of 1914. Things could not have been better nor had they ever been better and no living person had any memory of a major international war. So, it could not happen. A lot of personal problems are about to become so tiny, they cannot be seen with the naked eye.

Blogger Mystic On Main June 04, 2019 9:23 PM  

"Depends on the race you're dealing with but I've found "you bring shame on your ancestors" quite effective. Obviously, it works better on asians than blacks but it can and does work on caucasians."

With respect, I find this a doubtful strategy.

I think the die is cast. America is and will be a multicultural country. There is not a soul in or out of politics now who would have any hope at all of convincing even a small portion of Americans to support deportation. And civil war isn't going to happen either. I don't think anyone, in the wake of a depression, is going going to go after immigrants who hold the most inconsequential occupations. And those who seek something other than the cities will simply move away. Ironically, it seems to me the best case scenario is to pump up the idea of civic nationalism and do whatever possible to indoctrinate everyone to the idea that the principles of fair play, equality of opportunity, democracy and service are paramount.

Blogger pnq87 June 04, 2019 9:27 PM  

Quite frankly, if America were to become Aztlan or even nuked off the face of the Earth, I would consider it a bargain as long as the European nations were saved from the multi-ethnic hell America has become.

I say that as a natural born "American" of northwestern European stock.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 04, 2019 9:28 PM  

Even as she plays Cassandra, Ann Coulter STILL feels the need to make a nod to equalitarianism.

Yeah, she recently had a column praising the virtues of Thurgood Marshall, who, with Brown v. Board of Education, helped destroy our public school system. Are you a poor white person who would like your kid to be able to go to a school where he can focus more on what the teachers are saying than what the black kids are likely to do to him if he doesn't keep his head on a swivel? Too bad, whitey! The only school you're likely able to afford is going to be integrated. Of course, rich parents can send their parents to white private schools or live in overwhelmingly white school districts, but you? You're screwed.

Blogger Mystic On Main June 04, 2019 9:30 PM  

"Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to."

Do you have a model American you can point to who is actually doing something, rather than working to motivate others?

Blogger Statix June 04, 2019 9:35 PM  

It strikes me that Americans' temperament of individualism, selfishness, and greed will be their downfall.

Blogger Statix June 04, 2019 9:51 PM  

Nick Fuentes mentioned this in a recent stream. Mandatory E-Verify would have at least the potential to solve the illegal immigration crisis. But Trump is apparently against it because it would be "too effective" (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-e-verify-fox-news-makes-it-too-hard-to-hire-the-undocumented.html). What are your thoughts on this, Vox?

Blogger English Tom June 04, 2019 9:52 PM  

@Gettimothy

Sounds like a plan!

Blogger VFM #7634 June 04, 2019 9:55 PM  

Then proceed to the legal immigrants who have become a burden on the taxpayers. If you're not paying a Share of income tax (around $6K/year for an adult), you're a Burden...and you go back.

@19 Hammerli 280
Screw that... if they vote Democrat (which is basically all of them), they have to go back.

Blogger English Tom June 04, 2019 9:56 PM  

@Gunner451

You could be right with your analysis. However, if there is a sudden severe economic downturn, this will tend to harden hearts. DC Sunsets often mentions Prechter. One of Prechters quotes I like very much is:

Mood change precedes, and creates, history.

Hard times are coming and the blood will flow.

Blogger AdognamedOp June 04, 2019 9:57 PM  

Dont call me Len:
"a large legacy population of former imported slaves."

IDK man. Seems to me plenty of European cities have managed to create similar crime ridden enclaves in a few short years. Yall didnt even have time to pick your own cotton.

Blogger English Tom June 04, 2019 10:00 PM  

@OneWingedShark

The information we get is (((heavily filtered))).

Blogger justaguy June 04, 2019 10:05 PM  

#24: They are trying to motivate each other by loudly proclaiming that they will not vote for Trump because he has not completed everything they wanted, ignoring that he is the first one to actually try and fight for them.

Blogger Cloudbuster June 04, 2019 10:09 PM  

I don't think even the immigration pause of the early 20th century was successful in preserving our national identity. Consider the Italian mafia, the Irish gangs and political machines (Kennedys, Tammany Hall)< Jewish media, financial moguls and politicians. The US ceased to be the country it was when it invited in so many outsiders, even Western European outsiders. How much worse when the outsiders have no great love of or connection to Western Civilization?

Blogger Cloudbuster June 04, 2019 10:11 PM  

VD wrote:
Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.


Quote of the year.

Blogger Nobody of Consequence June 04, 2019 10:15 PM  

How about we move the federal capital to Kansas, move all the nonwhite immigrants to DC, leave Congress, the judges, the bureaucrats, and all living ex-presidents in DC and fence the place off? For now I give Trump a pass out but I'd drop him right in there the moment I thought he approved of this BS immigration.

Return the Union to greatness with WASPs.

I would like to point out that all this immigration crap began when the freaking feds stole immigration power from the States around 1900. The feds were NOT given power over immigration or even naturalization beyond Congress providing "an uniform rule or naturalization". Why uniform? Because the STATES were supposed to naturalize the people the States allowed to immigrate according to a standard so that all naturalized folks would meet the same rule. Constitutionally speaking, no one naturalized by the federal government is a citizen because that power was retained by the States. The lie we live with now is an invention of those in DC who wish to steal power from the states and ultimately the people. Go read your Constitution. That which is not granted in writing is withheld. Remember Madison, the feds powers are few and DEFINED. One cannot define a power without putting it in writing for so long as the power is merely verbal or mental it is not truly defined. We the People have been screwed over and over by the feds. The South was right.

Blogger Cluebat June 04, 2019 10:42 PM  

Don't try to save it. the sooner the conflict arrives, the better our prospects are.
There will be war. Don't count us all together. We are not a monolithic culture.
Some are better prepared than others.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 04, 2019 10:42 PM  

How do you respond to the person who reads this and responds, "So what? I"ll be dead in 30 years if all goes well, I expect to meet my savior, my kids are taken care of, what do I care what happens. Let Gen Z figure it out."
This person will NEVER say their kids are taken care of. If they think of their kids at all, it will be with resentment and disdain.
At Best.

Blogger Joeplanet June 04, 2019 10:48 PM  

Many European countries have seen their civilization destroyed a few times in somewhat recent memory. The people of the United States have never experienced this and have an incredible normalcy bias that could very well be their undoing.

Blogger Lazarus June 04, 2019 11:00 PM  

Akuma wrote:Theres Mosques in Brooklyn. They are all over the place. Its worse than you think it is.

Worse than that, how many synagogues in Brooklyn? Should have started there.

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2019 11:08 PM  

I'd wager we'll see European nations fall before the US falls

If you're living in the US, you are indeed making this wager. Vox is living in Europe, so he's making his own wager. All of us are.

You seem to conveniently forget one important difference from every European nation: a large legacy population of former imported slaves.

In the end, they won't matter, other than for the voting damage they've already done.

How do you respond to the person who reads this and responds, "So what? I"ll be dead in 30 years if all goes well, I expect to meet my savior, my kids are taken care of, what do I care what happens. Let Gen Z figure it out."

How do I respond? With "Fuck you Boomer, you're lying about all of it except the part where you don't care about anyone else."

(to be clear, as best I understand it, even Boomers are eligible for salvation, a point best explained as "God works in mysterious ways", but no Boomer who genuinely repented of his sins would have that attitude).

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2019 11:21 PM  

Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.

True, but I think what's really needed is convincing the 3% of Americans who are probably already willing to act that the rest of the country won't work too hard to stop them.

Blogger anorganicbear June 04, 2019 11:45 PM  

VD: Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.

This is the result of losing our faith, either to atheism or churchianity. You can't say f-off to the media who constantly threatens to ruin your life without faith that God will provide, or at the very least that if he let's you starve then it was your time to return home.

Blogger tublecane June 04, 2019 11:59 PM  

A lot of people have private gun ownership in the back of their minds comparing Europe to America. That whole "behind every blade of grass" idea. Which might mean something if we still had the Minuteman spirit, but I don't think so.

Blogger idprism June 05, 2019 12:08 AM  

The machine is daunting.

I grew up in a lower middle class home and ended up basically middle class.

When I see the political machine and the destruction it can drive before it, I am not even sure if I want to start or where to start. Knowing that the "American right" will just throw anybody sufficiently honest to the progressive wolves while the hound masters grin and wring their hands, collecting pay checks from all involved makes me fear that world and getting involved.

I donate when I can, support by sharing the alt-web and alt-media (thank you, vd) with anybody who is curious, but the step from that to running for office without familial or monetary ties, and speaking truth, is very large indeed...

Even if you're right.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 05, 2019 12:12 AM  

"You seem to conveniently forget one important difference from every European nation: a large legacy population of former imported slaves."

It wouldn't be half as bad if people didn't constantly treat them as some race of holy beings. Aethiopophilia is a supremely effed-up phenomenon.

Blogger Birdman June 05, 2019 12:14 AM  

gunner451 wrote:Really kind of pointless to see which one goes across the demographic death zone line first, Europe or the US, they'll both still find themselves third world s#$tholes sometime after the mid-century as white birth rates continue to collapse while the invaders continue to proliferate. Eastern Europe and Russia may be able to hold fast but anything west of Germany looks to be sliding downhill fast.

The real problem is that the driver for Western civilization was Christianity which in both the US and Europe has pretty much been chucked for secular humanism and the welfare state. That and giving women the right to vote has pretty much doomed both. Hopefully our new masters will be more tolerant of us than the South Africans are to their declining white population but I kind of doubt it.


you mean atheism?

Blogger Crew June 05, 2019 12:16 AM  

At this point, it is far too late for anything but very, very large scale repatriations to prevent the complete collapse of the USA.

I think it is going to require more than repatriation.

Perhaps they can be repatriated after composting.

David the Good, what is the best technique?

Blogger SmokeyJoe June 05, 2019 12:17 AM  

@47
"We the People have been screwed over and over by the feds. The South was right."

I agree. And I'm from the part of the Union, with relatives in the regiment, who bootstomped the the Confederates trying to take Little Roundtop. Sigh....

Blogger Crew June 05, 2019 12:17 AM  

(to be clear, as best I understand it, even Boomers are eligible for salvation, a point best explained as "God works in mysterious ways", but no Boomer who genuinely repented of his sins would have that attitude).

Of course boomers are eligible for salvation.

Repent and accept Jesus!

Blogger VFM #7634 June 05, 2019 12:21 AM  

"as best I understand it, even Boomers are eligible for salvation"

@Jack Amok
Catholic Boomers are the most enthusiastic adopters of Vatican II and the fake Novus Ordo sacraments... so I'm not even sure about that.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl June 05, 2019 12:30 AM  

Last year, a Muslim woman in a hijab tried to snatch one of the 2 beautiful blonde twins that were in the shopping cart of a Hobby Lobby, 45 min North of ATL. The mother was briefly distracted looking at some paint & if it weren't for the other twin screaming, the baby might have been gone for good, as they were very close to the store's entrance.
A week later, a woman was out doing yard work on a SAT morning in an upper middle class neighborhood when a Honduran tried to rape her behind her garage.
4 months before that, an illegal broke into the home of a single mother of 2 young teen girls. He tied them up after groping and slapping them repeatedly, and they were forced to watch while he abused & sodomized their mother.
Around the same time, a Mexican woman killed the father of her 5 children and all of the children, as well.
These events all took place in previously nice white flight areas that up until the last 15 or so years were fine.
It's not just in places like Jew York. In fact, I'd wager 90% of it is safer than many places in flyover that doesn't have a small army of police officers watching over their Chosen residents.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl June 05, 2019 12:38 AM  

After telling the selfish prick how you hope he dies slowly, excruciatingly and completely alone, ask him why he had children if he didn't care about what kind of future they'd have.

Blogger Bellomy June 05, 2019 1:14 AM  

Ann Coulter's prediction is not wrong but she is unbelievably, laughably wrong about her characterization of "the Dark Ages". It's a tired old myth that even the crazy leftist historians are finally starting to reject.

Blogger Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) June 05, 2019 1:28 AM  

"Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to."

It's an American tradition. How many "motivational speakers" are making a living telling other people how to get rich or otherwise improve their lives, even though they've never done anything besides give a rousing speech?

Blogger OneWingedShark June 05, 2019 1:35 AM  

The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey wrote:Where are America's Yellow Jackets? Nowhere to be found. We had the Tea Party but it fizzled out. Even our most hard-core protestors on the American right, the tough-as-nails bikers of Rolling Thunder fame, have inexplicably decided to pick up their toys and go home.
The Tea Party was massively subverted, as a particular example, you need consider no further than Ted Cruz. He's all talk, but showed his true colors when he ran for President: slimeball politician/lawyer, all about looking good [in the "For Display Purposes Only" sense] and saying things — he proved what manner of man he was when he about-faced on birth-location impacting NBC-status so he could claim he was eligible. — and he was the best of the politician-caste to gain from the Tea Party.


Also, another thing to consider — while specifically not "Tea Party" — is the Bundy Ranch stand-off. This was amazing: a militia stood up to the federal government and made them stand down… but counterbalanced by the murder of LaVoy Finicum and, given what we've seen with media and government officials, it's become quite apparent that there are massive enemy elements that have entrenched policies to the detriment of the US's people.

There is a very simple reason that you really don't see much in the way of Right-Wing protestors/activists:
Proverbs 22:3 — The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.
Or, to put it another way, don't make yourself a target.

The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey wrote:It's a relic from the assumption of righteousness, I think. Americans are great, good, God-fearing people. No less than Otto von Bismarck famously said, "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America." If that was ever true, is it now? Does God favor a nation that has been wholesale aborting its young since 1972? Does God favor a nation that has outrageously changed the terms of the Holy Sacrament of Marriage? Does God favor a nation that has decided to invent its own gender categories and destroy the ones of nature?
Part of this is how people are/were taught; or do you think it a coincidence that the seminaries were invaded and the ridiculous "you have to do everything the government says" interpretation of Romans 13 [See Commentary pushed into the churches at the same time they took the Bible and prayer out of schools?

Statix wrote:It strikes me that Americans' temperament of individualism, selfishness, and greed will be their downfall.
Interesting — I seem to recall real Americans being kind to each other, remember Hurricanes Katrina & Harvey?

Statix wrote:Nick Fuentes mentioned this in a recent stream. Mandatory E-Verify would have at least the potential to solve the illegal immigration crisis. But Trump is apparently against it because it would be "too effective". What are your thoughts on this, Vox?
Interesting, thank you for the article.
As noted up-thread, the information we get is heavily filtered — but, by his actions, Trump has been very friendly towards corporations… the recent talk about Google/tech being hit with antitrust/anti-monopoly laws is the first real punch against the corporations in a long time, and it might be all talk, but it would be good to have the corporations held to account for their actions.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 05, 2019 2:00 AM  

"Do you have a model American you can point to who is actually doing something, rather than working to motivate others?"

Orange man bad!

He's doing both. Not perfectly, but everyone makes mistakes.

Blogger Johnny June 05, 2019 2:52 AM  

Joeplanet wrote:Many European countries have seen their civilization destroyed a few times in somewhat recent memory. The people of the United States have never experienced this and have an incredible normalcy bias that could very well be their undoing.

Hubris is the fancy way of saying it. Western Civilization has been so successful for so long that we don't fathom the possibility of its failure, and so we don't act to protect it. The core long term problem we have is demographic, and for now at least we are not nearly willing to be ruthless enough to do anything.

I will take it that the problem is that we have yet to adequately adjust to industrialization. The local community is all but gone, few still have a meaningful extended family, and the nuclear family has been reduced to an absolute minimum. Thus the functions preformed by these social organizations is gone. Also gone are the social attitudes that came out of these associations. Not merely gone but despised. And so far, no adequate replacement.

Blogger Thad Tuiol June 05, 2019 2:55 AM  

Watching the Ruiz Vs. Joshua heavyweight title boxing clash the other day,I was reminded how much the magic dirt/civ nat claims had failed in the post-fight interview with Ruiz after his stunning upset of the odds. The guy was born in California and lived in the US his whole life, but did not utter the word "America" or "American" once in the interview, instead he ket reminding us "I'm a proud Mexican warrior, this is for Mexico baby!" as his entourage held a huge MEXICAN flag behind him. Give it up already, the nation of immigrants dream is dead.

Blogger Rabid Ratel June 05, 2019 3:46 AM  

VD wrote:I'm attempting to motivate Americans with all this. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer. Trying to light a fire at last. At long last!

Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.


This is the problem in South Africa as well. Whoever will be the savior of the West?

Blogger steb June 05, 2019 3:48 AM  

Large scale repatriations would only be possible if the USA had already collapsed. Even a leader like Salvini or Bolsanaro would struggle to get government employees to comply with those kind of orders. A US President would have to sack the entire judiciary and impose martial law. Even then, would the FBI or even the military go along with his orders?

The Gilet Jaunes are more likely to implement mass deportations than any western government are.

Blogger Peter June 05, 2019 4:21 AM  

Its interesting the similarity to the dark ages.. what preceeded the dark ages ? The fall of the roman empire; we are witnessing the fall of the american empire into nationalism . Disease... a reversal of vaccinations leaves us just waitng for the return of the black plague. Failure of roads ? Just look at the failure to fund this is the US. A decay from the parliamentry representative governement into the strong executive one.... Yeah its pretty much the same playbook as what was used to destroy the romans.. and we are gleefully doing it to ourselves in the name of smaller government, lower taxes, personal choice...

Blogger LSWCHP June 05, 2019 4:32 AM  

Ahhhh...Crimea...Franco Prussia in 1871...Balkan wars of 1912-13. There were lots of people who remembered major nation state peer to peer war, and they were itching to settle old scores.

Blogger LSWCHP June 05, 2019 4:40 AM  

Finicum would still be alive if he didn't go prancing around like a girl in the snow then attempt to draw slowly on men who held him at gunpoint. Regardless if the justice if his cause, that's a losing game.

Blogger Clay June 05, 2019 5:44 AM  

What a joke:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/06/04/one-star-falsely-claimed-flight-hours-mistreated-subordinates-ig-report.html

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 05, 2019 5:47 AM  

Mystic On Main wrote:expect to meet my savior

Maybe so, but he's not going to be very happy with them.

Blogger ZhukovG June 05, 2019 5:54 AM  

If a writer, who appears to be on the nationalist side, occasionally makes a comment that seems wrong/globalist. I wouldn't get too concerned.

When someone must operate behind enemy lines, you must at times show a set of false papers to the nice Gestapo man in order to get through the checkpoint.

This goes doubly for our beloved GE. If there was ever an emperor who couldn't trust his own Praetorian Guard....

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Brett baker June 05, 2019 6:11 AM  

We have these things called jobs.

Blogger Brett baker June 05, 2019 6:20 AM  

The people who complain about Trump not doing enough tend to be closer to Conservativism, Inc. than they're going to admit.

Blogger Daniel June 05, 2019 6:45 AM  

First western generation in history who give a flying fuck about posterity. Assholes

Blogger Gettimothy June 05, 2019 7:33 AM  

@67 well stated.

Remember that during the Tea party days there was still basic trust in our institutions.


At the bundy ranch stand off, the depth of subversion of the feds was unknown to most.

If Trump does not completely expose, defeat and purge the deep state, if the deep state wins, then there will no longer be stand offs, state oficials will be targeted and killed.

Blogger Chase June 05, 2019 7:44 AM  

@80

What a perfectly American comment. Smug about work, as if the goal of life is to work hard - as if work is an end rather than a mean. What/whom are you doing those jobs for?

Blogger ash June 05, 2019 7:54 AM  

I still feel that America still has the higher chance of collapsing later, as they're far more religious than Europeans. They also have guns.
As far as the Blacks, they at least gave us Clarence Thomas. All the Mexicans have given us is Sonya Soutamayer.
Lets be honest:Blacks never really were a threat to America. It was migrants and the 1965 bill that did us in, not black former slaves thatwere largely Americanized.

Blogger VD June 05, 2019 8:04 AM  

I still feel that America still has the higher chance of collapsing later, as they're far more religious than Europeans. They also have guns.

You're wrong. It's not about religion or guns. It's about demographics.

Blogger The Lab Manager June 05, 2019 8:40 AM  

When can we round up these sacks of human waste for deportation?

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/03/democrat-congress-hates-white-people-america/

Blogger Nate June 05, 2019 8:54 AM  

"I've been trying to explain this to Americans who mindlessly mourn "Europe is lost" while failing to realize that their own situation is considerably more dire:"

really.

So you're saying that people living here boots on the ground don't change their opinion based on the observations of someone who hasn't set foot in the USA in damn near 30 years?

Dude.

Stop. You have no idea what it is like in America. God you're falling into the same sloppy mistakes that you used to make fun of Europeans for making.

You can't compare America to France or Germany. If you want to make those comparisons then you need to pick some relatively small region of America... because those countries are tiny compared to America.

Lets see here...

Lets look at foreign born numbers...

12% of Germany's population is Foreign born.

13% of the United State's population is Foreign Born.

Shit. What about the EU as a whole?

10% foreign born for the EU as a whole. Shit that is a little better... but a million times?

well.. maybe the countries the immigration is coming from matters right? So lets see... what are the top countries sending immigrants to Europe...

Pakistan, Morraco, India, and Turkey... shit. that sounds kinda bad. I mean that's streetshitter central.

What are the top countries sending people to the US?

Mexico. Damn near all of it is mexico. particularly in the historical sense. There is a little more from places like India and such but the over all numbers are small compared to Mexico.

Well hell... would you rather live in Mexico or Pakistan? How about India?

All immigrants are not the same. All brown immigrants are not the same.

All regions of America are not the same. As I have stated many times... I go weeks and never lay eyes on a foreigner. Talk to folks in Wyoming or Montana. Talk to folks in lilly white Wisconsin or West Virginia.

I realize your old home town has been over run with Somalis but Minnesota is not America.

we have our issues and we will deal with them. The fact is... the issues you will be dealing with are far far worse.

Mexicans voluntarily self deport the second it looks like the scam is running out.

street shitting rag heads dont.

Blogger Nate June 05, 2019 9:04 AM  

Also... damn near 50% of all Hispanics in the US live in California and Texas.

So in reality this is a California problem and a texas problem. And no one really gives a damn about California… they can have it. and Texas? Hell texas has always been a half-breed mutt of alcoholic Tennessee rejects and Mexican squatters. this ain't new.

Blogger Brett baker June 05, 2019 9:18 AM  

Best description of Texas EVER!

Blogger VD June 05, 2019 9:22 AM  

So you're saying that people living here boots on the ground don't change their opinion based on the observations of someone who hasn't set foot in the USA in damn near 30 years?

Yes. Because a) most people are ignorant with regards to statistics and b) most Americans don't know what nationalism is.

Stop. You have no idea what it is like in America. God you're falling into the same sloppy mistakes that you used to make fun of Europeans for making.

I have no need to know what it is like an America in order to understand how well the American demographics fit the historical patterns.

Lets look at foreign born numbers...

It's not about foreign-born. It's about foreigners no matter where they are born. The new heavyweight champion, Ruiz, was born in California. He is "the first Mexican heavyweight champion". Second, third, and even fourth-generation foreigners are still foreigners. Redo your calculations, but account for all the relevant foreigners regardless of where they were born.

So in reality this is a California problem and a texas problem. And no one really gives a damn about California… they can have it. and Texas? Hell texas has always been a half-breed mutt of alcoholic Tennessee rejects and Mexican squatters. this ain't new.

Do you not understand that you are underlining my point? The USA is going to break apart. That doesn't mean the entire population is going to die or the very continent is going to sink into the waves. It means that the structure of society there is going to be dramatically altered in ways no one can expect to anticipate correctly.

The U.S. elite would not be making plans to flee everywhere from China to Israel and New Zealand if they did not understand that this alteration is already underway.

Blogger Dave June 05, 2019 9:23 AM  

sammibandit wrote:Do leftists question how we'll all be put into gulag? No. Do leftists question how we'll all be fired from our jobs, our kids kidnapped and raped? No. Do leftists question how they'll bring down the largest empire the world has ever seen? No.

They just act like they take it on faith because they're too stupid to have doubt before a decision. Why don't we do like they do and worry about doubt after the job is done? I swear, high intelligence is the biggest handicap of the right.

... [Find reasonable accommodation and have as many kids in your family as possible] ...good luck...

.


Yep. Owen's right. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and suck a guy. Btw I'm expecting a new Celt-Northman in the world next winter. Thought I should tell y'all and now is a good time.


Congrats and best wishes, Sammi. Don't mind all the spergs around here not reacting right away to your good news. You narrowing down the list of names you must have should be interesting.

Blogger Crush Limbraw June 05, 2019 9:31 AM  

Nate - we spend several months in Wisconsin every year and you're right - its like being back in the 50's USA by sight.
BUT, and it's a big BUT - because they don't SEE with their own eyes YET - they are clueless about the impending calamity.
Furthermore, their leadership, teachers and the general culture is 100% politically correct.
To them, my concerns are whacko - if you can't see it, it doesn't exist!
Not good!

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 9:32 AM  

@3 (AO) We don't have longer. America does not need time to wake up, it needs to have the bed tamped and the rage of a DI telling them to "get on my line you lazy bitch, move your ass, move your ass, move your ass, get on my f-ing line now."

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 9:47 AM  

Thanks, Dave. I've been given permission by my husband to use a Scandic name. I'm leaning towards Olle or Gunnar. I don't know why but I think it's a boy. Bless you dude.

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 9:51 AM  

As long as your focus is finding someone to blame or someone who will take the blame, you will never get around to talking about any solution nor will you create any alliances for implementing any solution. No, you will not be able to do this by yourself, no matter where you are.

Read the sayings of Bjorn Ironside. Chances are you use clichés he invented everyday. He did what he did despite people talking like you did to him. And he hated them.

I'm Christian for a reason dude. All things through Christ are possible.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 05, 2019 10:11 AM  

Part of the problem is that comparing the US to a nation like France is a category error. The US is more like the EU, a supra-national union. The EU might break up before the US, but it has well-defined nations to break up into, so those nations should survive and may even be stronger. The maps won't change and not many will mourn the loss of overseers in Brussels.

The US doesn't have that. Some states like Texas have a nationalist sense of their own, and I hear the South does, at least parts of it. But many states are just jurisdictions that were roped off to get the population to join the Union. There isn't even a river for half the border between Illinois and Indiana, just a line. The two sides of that line are the same nation, but Chicago is a different one. There are nations within the US, like the divisions Jayman talks about, but dividing them will be complicated and maps will change drastically.

The first time I saw a nationalist rally in Poland I was struck by the fact that everyone was carrying the same flag. If you held a rally for "America" and invited nationalist Americans from all 50 states, they wouldn't all bring the same flag. Some might not even be willing to march next to the other flags.

Blogger Nate June 05, 2019 10:21 AM  

"Do you not understand that you are underlining my point? The USA is going to break apart."

Why are you acting like this is a bad thing? I mean you're posting like this is all doom and gloom... and yet your point is... things will be back like they were intended 200 years ago.

Sorry homie... I'd much rather be here than there. I'll take mexicans over turks and pakistanis all day.

Blogger Nate June 05, 2019 10:21 AM  

"BUT, and it's a big BUT - because they don't SEE with their own eyes YET - they are clueless about the impending calamity."

there is no impending calamity.

California leaving isn't a calamity dude. its a damn blessing from God.

Blogger Nate June 05, 2019 10:22 AM  

My ancestors killed and died to split this government up and be shed of the influence of the idiot yankees. You think I view a break up of the US or a collapse of the government as a calamity? Jesus. No. I pray for it.

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 10:42 AM  

One.
Here in Texas, when I was a kid, in my large city, you could drive around and not see anyone Hispanic, unless you went to that side of town. Now, you have to drive around looking for the white people. Texas was very small percentage Hispanic when I was a kid, and my city had demographics close to what the US has now. In Texas, the Mexicans could never deal with the natives, so, they didn’t live here. The people from Tennessee and such had been fighting for quite a while, and in Texas, could even kick the tar out of the Comanche, which was crazy difficult, the Comanche were awesome f-ing warriors. If half the country were Hispanic, and half of that moved into your lilly areas over the course of 10-20 years, and the pretty senioritas married your young dudes, how long do you think it would take to flip your secure whiteness? About as long as Texas.

Another.
Most people are NPCs. Or, Most People Are Idiots (MPAI). That is the human material there is to work with. Humanity has a history of kings and chiefs, lords, and emperors. Most people follow. It’s in the DNA. There is a serious, serious problem with leadership today. It’s not that people are lazy, it is that the leadership to get them off their ass and move with a sense of purpose, is not there. My United States Marine Corps is not composed of a bunch of Privates trying to arrange one another, we have higher in the chain getting up the ass of the lowers to get shit done, for a reason. Humans have a Male Social Sexual Hierarchy. Nobody is equal, people have roles. If there is a failure at the bottom, it is because of failure at the top. What are the two tactics of the enemy? Attack the leadership, and substitute their own in for ours. Because our enemy understands. We have a leadership problem. People over inflate their importance because they have a vote, they are the followers.

Which is where MSSH becomes so important, figuring out how to create a resonance and amplification feedback loop between the leadership and the followers, to shift things from BS to meaningful action. Piece of cake, yep.

Blogger VD June 05, 2019 10:46 AM  

Why are you acting like this is a bad thing? I mean you're posting like this is all doom and gloom... and yet your point is... things will be back like they were intended 200 years ago.

I think the breakup of the US empire will ultimately be a good thing. But I think the process of it will be brutally ugly for almost everyone it touches even tangentially.

Blogger Alex June 05, 2019 10:51 AM  

even Germany, which American conservatives consider lost, is about 90% ethnic european (80% ethnic german)

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 05, 2019 10:54 AM  

VD wrote:Actually, that's the real problem faced by Americans. They're all trying to motivate each other, hoping that someone else will actually do something so they don't have to.

The other real problem is that if some American gets motivated enough to do something, the motivators are going to attack him for it; call him rayciss, call for his arrest, and so on.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 05, 2019 11:03 AM  

There are a few things that can be done to avert or at least delay the coming conflicts:
1) Build the border wall.
2) Recall all US troops internationally and place them on the Mexican border.
3) Deport all legal immigrants on any kind of welfare. This is a legal avenue a President can take.
4) Deport all illegals immigrants and imprison their enablers.
5) Threaten war with Mexico unless they agree to stop pushing immigration.
6) Arrest any banking head caught laundering money for drug lords and charge them with drug trafficking.
7) Withdraw all Federal funding, including FEMA, from any state which has Sanctuary Cities.
8) Nullify all election results from districts that contain Sanctuary Cities.

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 11:04 AM  

Anne is working on the amplified feedback loop. Pat Buchanan. Vox, Tucker, Limbaugh, Hannity, Jones. Drudge, though he gets sidetracked. Q, when they are not saying to trust Sessions. Big part of the solution, whether it is recognized or not. As bad as the situation is, it was going to be a lot worse. Much, much worse. Like, already lost worse.

Blogger Crush Limbraw June 05, 2019 11:08 AM  

The calamity is not California, Nate - it's the process - "It means that the structure of society there is going to be dramatically altered in ways no one can expect to anticipate correctly," - as Vox says.
My biggest point is that DaWisconsinites and their politically-correct policy makers are no different from their neighbors in Minnesota.
A lack of awareness to immigrant invasion is still the prevailing culture!

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 11:26 AM  

The other real problem is that if some American gets motivated enough to do something, the motivators are going to attack him for it; call him rayciss, call for his arrest, and so on.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. That saying is about 1200 years old now. Don't overthink this.

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 11:29 AM  

#91 #94 Yep, congratulations Sammi, very cool.

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 11:36 AM  

Thanks kind sir!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 05, 2019 11:45 AM  

"Lets look at foreign born numbers...

12% of Germany's population is Foreign born.

13% of the United State's population is Foreign Born."


That's a very obfuscative metric. You know that what you're implying with it isn't true.

Vox mentions four generations to account for with foreigners. I'd be more inclined to go six, minimum. Add onto that all of the various mixed whites that are currently numbed by the cultural equivalents of anti-organ-rejection drugs, whom will likely have a significant autoimmune response once the party starts.

"All regions of America are not the same."

Far the better argument. Still, I've seen previously 98% white demographics shift to more than 50% various browns and yellows in several areas in my lifetime, and those are only the ones I've personally been living it.

Admittedly urban and city areas are far worse than the rural ones, but at the same time, not all of the cities are going to go away.

The problem is that "who has the power" is even conceptually arguable. It's somewhat beyond just a concept. Power vacuums will be filled in disorderly fashion. That's the war that we're looking at, where most of the European polities can still reassert their national authorities in a matter of days at most.

" You think I view a break up of the US or a collapse of the government as a calamity? Jesus. No. I pray for it."

What's the saying. When elephants fight the grass dies? When all the things to be grabbed fly up in the air, it's not going to be the fragments of the US grabbing a lot of them. It's going to be external actors who still have their unified foundations and balances. We may say good riddance to some of the things to be lost, but some of them are going to hurt in a way no one has been hurt in the USA in several lifetimes. Such breaks are never clean.

Do I envy Europe? No. Some of them will have a shitshow. However, it'll last comparatively about five minutes, while our classic muddley will likely drag on for hours. In addition, I'd rather deal with an approximate IQ 80 population with nomadic tendencies and a religion that mostly only wishes it were strong at 10% of the demo, than one with several more IQ points, multiple death fetishes, and more like 35% of the demo even after all the other minorities are split off.

Generally speaking, explosives with a 1:2 molar ratio of non-oxidant to oxidant are going to be more interesting than ones with a 1:9. All those other minorities might as well be designed to generate as much reaction surface as possible, and maybe even the non-oxidants in our case will react with each other exothermically.

This might as well be a recipe for napalm rather than the alternative M-80.

Blogger Avalanche June 05, 2019 1:17 PM  

@28 "> We start with the illegals, ... [snip] ... Then proceed to the legal immigrants
Most minorities are citizens. 47 of the 52 million Hispanics in the US are citizens."

Well, he didn't say END with legals, now, did he? You don't necessarily need to lay out the entire multi-year plan before beginning with the first few huge steps?

Blogger Avalanche June 05, 2019 1:19 PM  

@30 "Btw I'm expecting a new Celt-Northman in the world next winter. Thought I should tell y'all and now is a good time. "

O.M.G.! Sammi!! Congrats and thanks for helping our nation! Whoo hoo!!! Atta girl!

Blogger Annabel Lee June 05, 2019 1:27 PM  

This is a story from Minnesota in 2016, that I had not heard about. Wealthy neighborhoods aren’t safe either: https://twitter.com/StarryViews/status/1135897934246100997?s=20

Blogger Avalanche June 05, 2019 1:28 PM  

@33 "it seems to me the best case scenario is to pump up the idea of civic nationalism and do whatever possible to indoctrinate everyone to the idea that the principles of fair play, equality of opportunity, democracy and service are paramount."


Oh yes -- because our being a HIGH-TRUST, high-performance nation has worked SO WELL when we're swamped with LOW-trust, low-performance two-legged animals?! Have you just not read or watched Vox Day explaining how the lower and lower IQ WE are being surrounded by means we're going to lose everything that makes a WHITE nation worth living in?!

If preventing a nuclear disaster at any of our nuke plants relies on the SMART and trained calculations of the 85-IQ negress 'assigned' to watch the deadly emanations from a room full of nuclear material -- and you think 'pumping her up' with civ-nattery will do that?!

85-IQ
affirmative action hire
deadly radioactivity requiring the CORRECT choice in an emergency

Sing it with me:
"One of these things is not like the others. One of them doesn't belong."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 05, 2019 1:43 PM  

sammibandit wrote:Btw I'm expecting a new Celt-Northman in the world next winter.

Congratulations! I hope it's the first of many more. Or the Nth of many more, if it's not the first.

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 1:51 PM  

Thanks, dude. Much appreciated. It's our first. We're super thrilled.

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 1:51 PM  

Thanks, Av :-)

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 05, 2019 2:19 PM  

Will have to read the comments later. Looks like a good thread. In the meantime, I just returned from being in our nation's capital yesterday - this the capital of the United States of America. Here's a run down:

Uber from airport to hotel: "Timothy" who is actually Chinese or perhaps Vietnamese. Barely understood English
Hotel front desk: Looked like a Caribbean islander. Asked about room accommodations, didn't understand me so I didn't repeat the question.
Uber to dinner: Setthasin - Asian, little English, no idea where he's from
Uber back from dinner: Bate - What kind of a name is Bate? black dude

2 other Uber trips were equally foreigners. You get the idea. One was from Togo. Older guy. Barely any English. Could tell he couldn't wait to get his family over here. "America, WHAT A COUNTRY!!"

Work at a U.S. government agency:
Meeting led by someone of Chinese descent, possible 1'st generation immigrant. Good grasp of English at least.
Surrounded by minorities and affirmative action hires at every turn in the building. I'm telling you, the white male presence in the entire building was dwarfed by every other people group and gender.

Program Lead? Another "minority"
Program Finance? - Minority

Uber to airport after meetings: Mun - "Mun?" What kind of name is that? Asian. Don't know where from.

Went to bar before flight to set up for a couple of hours, while waiting. Finally see a few (older than me) white guys who worked on the F35 project. Bartender? Asian - Hawaiian maybe? Filipino?

All I could think about was why we had allowed all these immigrants in to our country. Jobs Americans won't do? No. The labor pool is being artificially inflated with immigrants and women thus driving down the wage rates. Couple this with the inflation on a floating currency and you understand why both parents usually have to work. Fortunately, my wife is still able to stay at home. But just barely.

I see Indians in the Director and VP jobs that should be going to me and my peers. And what do they do when in that position? Hire other Indians of course. Many people have talked about it on this blog.

So there you have it. The problem in a microcosm from one day in Washington D.C.

This isn't a melting pot, it's oil and water. Separately, they do great things; fitted for their purpose. Together, both are useless. They get in the way of one another.

I imagine what it would be like to state openly to one of them: "You must go back. You must go back now."
"What you talk about? I move here with family! We here! We stay here!!"

So then it comes down to force.

There will be war...

(To the Ilk: No, I'm not a Fed.)

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 05, 2019 2:28 PM  

The French have at least angry Frenchmen
Last I looked, it wasn't the Americans chopping off heads in an unquenchable bloodlust. The French have backbone. I think this "French surrender" narrative is effective propaganda, as most other things are we've been taught.

Blogger Bobiojimbo June 05, 2019 2:36 PM  

Reminds me of Jesus's teaching on a mote in your brother's eye. Europe has a splinter, and they're reacting accordingly. The USA has a cedar.

VD, do you think Europe's reaction is in part due to them having a history of being invaded?

I'm trying to think, but outside the Mexican invasion of Texas, the USA has never fought off invaders. The USA has always been the aggressive defenders.

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 05, 2019 2:40 PM  

@33 Ironically, it seems to me the best case scenario is to pump up the idea of civic nationalism and do whatever possible to indoctrinate everyone to the idea that the principles of fair play, equality of opportunity, democracy and service are paramount.

Dude, you need to GTFOH with that kind of talk! Perhaps someone above has already addressed it, but you do realize that those vaunted civic nationalistic values you desire are built on the bedrock of Christendom right? Without a common faith in Jesus, without a belief in property rights, service to neighbor, and humility found in the Bible, there IS NO COMMON GROUND to build upon! The English understanding of those ideals are what founded America. The French tried it without those values and you see the kind of revolution they had.

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 05, 2019 2:43 PM  

@35 Are you a poor white person who would like your kid to be able to go to a school where he can focus more on what the teachers are saying than what the black kids are likely to do to him if he doesn't keep his head on a swivel? Too bad, whitey! The only school you're likely able to afford is going to be integrated. Of course, rich parents can send their parents to white private schools or live in overwhelmingly white school districts, but you? You're screwed.

I got caught up in that. It was real. It was a hell hole as soon as I set foot in an inner city school. I lasted 2 months before my first suspension. After that, my mother sacrificed and moved me out of the county,

...and saved my life.

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 05, 2019 2:55 PM  

@45 Consider the Italian mafia, the Irish gangs and political machines (Kennedys, Tammany Hall)< Jewish media, financial moguls and politicians. The US ceased to be the country it was when it invited in so many outsiders, even Western European outsiders.

Yes. This! We forget that the Italians and the Jews were met with slurs and hatred at every turn. Remember when that wonderful Italian kid Joe DiMaggio made it big? The country was elated that "finally an Italian also done good!" Invasion indeed. From all corners. From all cultures.

http://www.niashf.org/inductees/joe-dimaggio/

After that, it was a big deal that Kennedy, a Catholic!, was elected president. That was fawned over as well.
https://www.newspapers.com/topics/us-presidents/john-f-kennedy/

Seems to me, anything to subvert English Protestantism in its government and culture in the U.S. was fair game. This isn't new. Muslims and Hispanics are merely the latest chess pieces to be added to the board.

Blogger Avalanche June 05, 2019 3:20 PM  

@106 "A lack of awareness to immigrant invasion is still the prevailing culture!"

I wonder if sending many many many reports and esp. pix of what the effing illegals and legals are DOING to Americans would help? In 'working on' a neighbor lady who was ... insanely! ... working on a forensic psycholoy degree, and wanted to become a profilers for the state bureau of invest. I kept sending her and asking her to get educated about what negroes were DOING to Whites...
'No, no, she didn't need to see it, it was bad and upsetting.'
"How the HELL are you going to "profile" these criminals if you cannot and will not WATCH them in action?!"
"Oh well, blood at the scene doesn't bother me." (all TWO scenes she'd been to with class).
"You CANNOT profile on the basis of blood spatters!"

No success, she would NOT see a knock-out attack or any other. Well, a mutual friend, much disturbed, sent her a vid of some little old man coming out of the grocery store with his little bag of groceries an the effing negro just beat the living hell out of him... The poor man was throwing the food and his wallet and anything crying "stop leave me alone please!"

Since it was NOT from me, and my friend didn't know what it was, she watched, and called me in screaming hysterics! "OMG! IT was SO HORRIBLE! The poor man!"

Yes. THIS is what you know to KNOW to profile. THIS is what you have to be immersed in, so you can gather patterns."


IF we sent to the pols at all levels, esp in the lily-White areas, and maybe even in D.C., since they all live gated and protected, might they begin to see what is going on in OTHER areas?

I think that might be too dialectic -- although the emotional response to the truth might jar a few? The media covers, what, 0.2% of the illegals killing and raping and so on? And I was astonished even though I pay attention at the boatloads and trucks loads of fentanyl and mj and meth and all being stopped at the borders! Look at the bottom of this page at what's been stopped, and then keep going: https://webuildthewall.news/

58# of meth; 45 # meth and fentanyl; 80# of meth and fent; $2million in meth; 91# meth, fent, and heroine; 290# of cocaine, heroine, fent, and meth;

And that's just in the first 2 pages! And probably not all, just the few this site posted.

Blogger sammibandit June 05, 2019 3:23 PM  

>I see Indians in the Director and VP jobs that should be going to me and my peers. And what do they do when in that position? Hire other Indians of course. Many people have talked about it on this blog.

My brother's friend is Han Chinese. She used to think whites are very racist until she worked as a scientist at an Indian owned pharmacy company. They treated her like absolute crap. It really opened her eyes.

On the French. Good call. The surrender meme afaik has to do with their white battle flag under House Bourbon. That's the House commies hate. It's worth stating that the French are basically Romanized Celts, save Brittany and Normandy where they're Romanized Celts mixed with Northmen. Some Frenchmen are as big as Bavarians. Like 6'5.

Blogger Avalanche June 05, 2019 3:25 PM  

@118 "Uber back from dinner: Bate - What kind of a name is Bate? black dude"

Oh, that's easy! He goes by his middle name, cause his first name is "Master"! What, you didn't see that coming?!

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 3:33 PM  

@124 (A) Hope this helps.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/06/they-just-love-freedom-so-much.html#c3411919330939578475

Blogger Richard Martel June 05, 2019 4:07 PM  

I don't remember ever seeing a hijab or any other Muslim garb until I was in my 20s. Now they are everywhere. We've already been effectively colonized, unfortunately most Americans are too blinded by bread and circuses to notice.

Blogger Richard Martel June 05, 2019 4:16 PM  

I'm interested in hearing how you anticipate this transpiring? For the record, I don't necessarily disagree but it's hard to fathom how bad things can get before things snap back. If you would've told me about "Drag Queen Story Times" 15 years ago I would've assumed there would be curb stompings in the streets.

Blogger megabar June 05, 2019 4:51 PM  

#111 > Well, he didn't say END with legals, now, did he?

Yes, essentially. His complete 3-step plan is 1) deport illegals, 2) depot legal non-citizens who aren't productive, and finally, 3) stop immigration.

This is a reasonable solution in a nation where the majority is still dominant. Furthermore, while it could not remotely be passed in today's US legislature, it's not beyond the realm of possibility in some European countries.

But 47 of 52 million Hispanics in the US are citizens. Africans have an even higher fraction of being legal citizens. So the 3-point plan does not solve anything here. It slows the demise, and therefore may very well be worth pursuing.

But this only further proves the point: the US is past the point where solutions within the American political framework can solve things.

In theory, you could pass laws that would make citizens voluntarily leave the US for more redistributive nations, but with the current demographics, what would make you think that has any chance of passing?

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 5:06 PM  

@129 (RM) Snap back to what? You’re dealing with human beings. Might read up on some of the depravity of Rome when it got bad, look at what a variety of pagan societies did. There is no bottom, only rejection of the of the pit. Everyone thinks there are these red lines out there, that you cross now or a hundred years from now, and, woah buddy, you’re in for it. I mean, they are not entirely fictional, some grounding in the real world, but for the most part, they are in the head. And they are assumed to be in everyone else’s head. And that everyone (figuratively, but substantively) is going to stand up and march on the streets. And that people are just waiting for that red line to be crossed. [lets see, three Ands, written/lyrical varieties of three in a row, anyway]. Generally though, that’s not how humanity works, how humanity organizes. It’s not outright Gamma, but it seems to relate in a shade to the idealized world, and the plan for inaction that results in a win.

Blogger xevious2030 June 05, 2019 5:28 PM  

Ok, human organization. In the Corps, we had a Capabilities Exercise, a CAPEX. I was a corporal in charge of setting up the tents, food, whatever, and organizing the actions of my troops. Dignitaries were there, the whole dog and pony show that was “not a dog and pony show.” Anyway, the helos came in too close (not their fault, orders) on the troop drop. Rotor wash blew down the tents with a fury, heavy poles crashing down on heads, blood, chaos. I went to work directing my troops in the actual crisis effort, like you’re supposed to do. And then, intermittently, these Colonels, Two Star Generals, standing there, watching, start looking at me, see what I am doing, and then they say “tell me what to do.” Not because I am this special guy, or had some sort of super smart guy glow emanating from my posterior, but because they understood the nature of human organization. This is why they were Colonels. This is why they were Generals.

Blogger DonReynolds June 05, 2019 8:07 PM  

@130 xevious2030

A terrific story and rather inspiring.
Thank you for sharing.

Alexander the Great was taught by one of his famous Greek philosophers....
"in order to lead, you must first learn how to follow".

Military exercises and demonstrations, even when not packing live ammo, still involve machinery and equipment of tremendous force and power, even when tightly scripted. It may be a thrill for spectators, but it is not a spectator sport. The environment they create is inherently hazardous and dangerous for anyone and everyone in the vicinity.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 05, 2019 9:59 PM  

xevious2030 wrote:@3 (AO) We don't have longer. America does not need time to wake up, it needs to have the bed tamped and the rage of a DI telling them to "get on my line you lazy bitch, move your ass, move your ass, move your ass, get on my f-ing line now."
That's fairly accurate; we need something to "scare the piss out of us" and hit that "I'm Motivated!" switch.
I think our enemies understand this as well: this is why they want the people, generally, to be "asleep" — all the better for the looting, and let's not forget that they've "tied" the strong men up so that they might loot the house.

Gettimothy wrote:@67 well stated.
Remember that during the Tea party days there was still basic trust in our institutions.
At the bundy ranch stand off, the depth of subversion of the feds was unknown to most.

If Trump does not completely expose, defeat and purge the deep state, if the deep state wins, then there will no longer be stand offs, state officials will be targeted and killed.

I tend to think that Trump's actions indicate that he is generally in a mindset where he wants to "take things back to the way they were" — there's a lot of little things that, circumstantially, could indicate that he's far less an ally than we'd hope; some examples: (1) his failure to direct the DOJ to prosecute the massive mid-term election fraud, something which virtually all Real Americans would be in favor of; (2) his failure to direct the DOJ to prosecute those who are attacking his supporters, on the cynical side this would indicate that he doesn't see his supporters as "his people"; (3) his "I want the most immigration ever" SOTU-speech; (4)
rejecting the TPP only to accept/endorse a renamed/relabeled TPP called "USMCA".

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 05, 2019 10:43 PM  

IDK man. Seems to me plenty of European cities have managed to create similar crime ridden enclaves in a few short years.

There's no city in the developed world that's even close to be the murder factory that is Chicago, Illinois, and that's not even the per capita killin' champion. There are safer cities in the undeveloped world.

In the end, they won't matter, other than for the voting damage they've already done.

When many major and minor American cities become literal infernos, they'll matter a little. It'll be a mini nuclear winter is some parts of the former nation.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 06, 2019 10:35 AM  

OneWingedShark wrote:I tend to think that Trump's actions indicate that he is generally in a mindset where he wants to "take things back to the way they were" —

Ttump is a Boomer, a civnat, and probably rogue ruling class. He almost surely wants to get back to the status he remembers from his youth in the 1950s and early '60s, when the citizens of the empire lived together peacefully, and the ruling class was less openly predatory. It was a stable and prosperous time for the ruling class too, and that's what he wants to re-create.

Under this theory, the entire Trump phenomenon is a power struggle within the ruling class, and we won't ever see is anything which might de-legitimate the ruling class as a whole. Although some members of the ruling class might, maybe, be spanked, it's very unlikely we will see them spanked publicly.

The political class, on the other hand, will be decimated, if that's what it takes to bring them to heel.

The proles don't even matter, except that we must quit agitating against the ruling class and get back to work for them.

Blogger xevious2030 June 06, 2019 2:10 PM  

I'm glad you liked it Don, and I appreciate your kind words. Liked the quote you provided as well.

Blogger sammibandit June 06, 2019 2:13 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd

>Ttump is a Boomer, a civnat, and probably rogue ruling class. He almost surely wants to get back to the status he remembers from his youth in the 1950s and early '60s, when the citizens of the empire lived together peacefully, and the ruling class was less openly predatory. It was a stable and prosperous time for the ruling class too, and that's what he wants to re-create.

There's nobility in that, tongue in cheek of course. He got on spectacularly with the Queen during the state visit as shown in pictures of them smiling. Melania got even more popular. But I can't fault boomers or the Greatest Gen for looking back in hindsight because that's a function of age.

Even so, and regards to predation, there are horror stories all over the Commonwealth of visiting royals playing The Most Dangerous Game with kids in care. It looks like Australia, Canada, Isle of Jersey, and Ireland were the hardest hit, though Belgium and Netherlands give the Windsors a run for their money.

The days of hiding behind patronages and ribbon cutting ceremonies in order to give cover for visiting kids in care are over. Everyone knows now what evil was wrought on the young. For this we should be humbled and grateful. There's no going back.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 06, 2019 5:03 PM  

sammibandit wrote:There's nobility in that, tongue in cheek of course.

The farmer wants his cows happy and productive. The noble wants his peasants happy and productive. Yes, it's a very noble policy.

Blogger xevious2030 June 06, 2019 6:47 PM  

What about a Shepherd and his sheep?

Blogger sammibandit June 06, 2019 9:00 PM  

Ominous Cowherd, it is nice to see you in good spirits.

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