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Tuesday, June 18, 2019

Sounds like a good start

But we'll see whether there is any follow-through on the words or not, or if it's just more bluster:
President Donald Trump said on Monday that U.S. authorities would begin next week removing millions of immigrants who are in the United States illegally.

"Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States," Trump tweeted, referring to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. "They will be removed as fast as they come in," he said. He did not offer specifics.

There are an estimated 12 million immigrants who are in the United States illegally, mainly from Mexico and Central America.
The real problem, of course, is with legal immigration. Because the fundamental problem involves quantity, not quality, much less legality.

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Blogger JAG June 18, 2019 5:09 AM  

They still persist with that 12 million number from decades ago. There's more than that in just Southern California alone.

If the G.E. follows through on this then not only Trumpslide 2020, but Penceslide in 2024 just from the momentum alone.

Blogger Ska_Boss June 18, 2019 5:14 AM  

12 million illegals residing in a foreign country. Let that sink in for a moment.

Blogger MichaelJMaier June 18, 2019 5:19 AM  

12 million? Yeah... right.

Blogger Mandos June 18, 2019 5:25 AM  

There better be to be some degree of follow-through on this, because muh GDP growth and job numbers alone aren't quite going to cut it when it comes to securing his reelection.

Blogger D E K June 18, 2019 5:27 AM  

Time to test the agreement with Mexico and begin with all the Guatemalans etc.

Blogger TMLutas June 18, 2019 5:36 AM  

The real problem construction is nearly always taken to mean a downgrade in importance of the disfavored problem. It's inapt here. The rule of law is a real thing and has value.

Illegal immigration, besides presenting all the cultural challenges that it does, also has a series of rule of law issues while in no way shape or form presenting less of a challenge than legal immigration in the areas where legal immigration presents a challenge. Objectively, it's a worse problem per unit, is more difficult to control the number of units, and illegal immigrants are less likely to acculturate and more likely to ghettoize. Immigrant ghettoes, I think it's fair to say, are a necessary condition to no-go zones (though not a sufficient one).

Unless Vox is making the case that illegal immigration has a much smaller number of units than I think is true, the "real problem" construction needs replacement with a better way of saying his message.

Blogger DonReynolds June 18, 2019 5:44 AM  

By US law, NONE of them are immigrants of any sort. They are illegal aliens. The ONLY immigrants in the US are in the country legally. An illegal alien is a fugitive from the law, a criminal, and may be immediately removed when apprehended. Those who have been deported in the past are guilty of a serious felony, punishable by up to twenty years in Federal prison, even if no other crimes have been committed. At least 1.7 million illegal aliens have already exhausted all possible appeal in the immigration courts have been issued removal orders, which they have ignored and remain fugitives, some of them for years.

Blogger Brett baker June 18, 2019 6:04 AM  

The screaming will be glorious.

Blogger Lazarus June 18, 2019 6:11 AM  

Another promising start on the subject of 911 from a recent ABC interview:

“It was not Iraq,” the president told ABC News. “It were other people. And I think I know who the other people were. And you might also.”

Blogger peter blandings June 18, 2019 6:18 AM  

need i even speak? sure, why not. any deportations will be so minuscule as to be joke-like in their non-scale. even ONE MILLION, let alone millions (plural) is a ridiculous fantasy. the last time i commented, after trump stated publicly that if mexico didn't stop the flow of illegals across their border into the u.s. he would close the border entirely in one week. it only took him 2 days to extend the deadline to a year. another example, trump announced we were pulling out ALL troops from syria immediately. 2 days later lindsey graham held a press conference and said he'd talked to the president and they decided to do it gradually, the "smart way".

so you're definitely onto something with your 2 day advice, but it's in the other direction. a few weeks later, not only had zero troops been withdrawn from syria, but rather trump announced that he agreed "100%" with his generals that the u.s. must keep a "PERMANENT PRESENCE" in syria. glad we finally made a decision there.

as i've said many times, i don't hold trump responsible for these back downs. he's in an impossible position, as are we. this comment will be interpreted as anti-trump and defeatest and all the other sycophantic dribbles. i'm tired of explaining why it isn't.

by his candidacy announcement alone trump secured his place in history as a genuine american hero. i just wish he'd quit winners and get the money out the door, since, after 2 1/2 years it's clear the cia will not allow the continued existence of the u.s. nonetheless, one can only marvel at trump's perseverance and courage.

let the name calling begin. i just put on a clean shirt.

Blogger McChuck June 18, 2019 6:33 AM  

Well, it's good to see the perpetual "11 million illegals" has been updated to 12 million. The real number is, of course, closer to 40 million.

Blogger Cinco June 18, 2019 6:35 AM  

12 million... Try 30 million

Blogger Matamoros June 18, 2019 6:42 AM  

Should put them on chain gangs until they work enough to pay the gov't back for expenses in removing them

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 18, 2019 6:45 AM  

muh GDP growth and job numbers alone aren't quite going to cut it when it comes to securing his reelection.

Especially if all the current indicators of a global slowdown prove true before November 2020.

Blogger wahr01 June 18, 2019 6:49 AM  

@14

The us is causing this "global slowdown"
The "growth" that WAS happening globally was happening at the expense of the US market, and tariffs are finally stopping that.

This is, of course, hitting wall street (who invested in this foreign growth), while wages and job postings for "main street" Americans rocket.

Blogger wahr01 June 18, 2019 7:04 AM  

@12

You forget "birthright citizenship" means the other 18 million anchor babies are "citizens"

Blogger Rocklea Marina June 18, 2019 7:05 AM  

this comment will be interpreted as anti-trump and defeatest and all the other sycophantic dribbles

Perhaps, but the punctuation....Why?

The real problem construction is nearly always taken to mean a downgrade in importance of the disfavored problem. It's inapt here. The rule of law is a real thing and has value.

Just declare war on Mexico. Solves both problems and gives you a GDP boost. Besides, Mexico is obviously Putin's puppet. Russia Russia Russia.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 18, 2019 7:11 AM  

War on Mexico is a win win. Neocons get to see us fight someone, and we get to fight an actual enemy.

Blogger JG June 18, 2019 7:12 AM  

Anyone who enters the country illegally has no rights, other than a trip to a jail cell or a trip home. Send them back, send the all back.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 18, 2019 7:14 AM  

But who'll make all of those delicious tacos and blow leaves off Gwyneth Paltrow's driveway?

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 18, 2019 7:14 AM  

Believe it when I see it

Blogger Nation-Deprived June 18, 2019 7:15 AM  

The problem is immigration in general, because they don’t assimilate. They just multiply and replace the previous community like a virus. Meanwhile not enough of the native community is settling down and reproducing to maintain their presence and culture.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 18, 2019 7:18 AM  

I don't believe the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is intended to apply to them - it is being wrongly used.

Blogger Thad Tuiol June 18, 2019 7:24 AM  

Okay fine, but how about punishing the money-grubbing bastards who are employing most of them?

Blogger Solon June 18, 2019 7:40 AM  

It makes me angry to no end when leftists insist "there's no such thing as an illegal person."

Yes, there is, stop gaslighting.

If you entered the country without documentation, you are by definition an invader. The Constitution, with all it's protections, applies only to citizens. ONLY.

If you are not a citizen of the United States, you have not sworn an oath to the Constitution, and you are thus not bound to it's laws, but neither do you fall under the aegis of it's protections.

In short: citizens have every right under both national and international law to shoot illegals in the face and leave their corpses in the desert to feed the buzzards and coyotes.

You'd think theyd be fucking grateful that all we want to do is send them back the way they came without any extra breathing holes... But that graciousness might soon be ending.

Blogger IrishFarmer June 18, 2019 7:45 AM  

The first crying child or huddled, scared family on TV yearning to be free ought to put an abrupt end to that.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 18, 2019 7:47 AM  

The Left is just another front for the Cheap Labor Imperialists, old boss new boss crap just this boss has a huge global media presence that shows us the glitter of the uppah class while stoking the rages of the useful idiot classes.

Guilty as charged execution at dawn.

Blogger Careless Whisper June 18, 2019 7:49 AM  

Haven't heard such tough talk since the 16 election. I find it heartening to hear it return.
Maybe he's finally got enough judges instated to make it happen. Or perhaps the gutless worms on the Republican side can finally see the writing on the wall and will back him now.

Sure it's just signaling, but it's better signaling than we've had in a while.

Blogger binks webelf June 18, 2019 7:55 AM  

OT:

Say a prayer for Pope Benedict, who suffered a mild ischemic stroke yesterday.

https://gloria.tv/photo/BLmMjv7gBtbQ27FGjrXqVqPX6

Blogger English Tom June 18, 2019 7:57 AM  

Colour me cynical but this seems like pandering to Trump's base, getting them onside, just before Trump has to 'reluctantly' go to war with Iran.

Blogger Johnny June 18, 2019 8:10 AM  

>>The Left is just another front for the Cheap Labor Imperialists...

That in lower wages and also playing one group against another. Way back when it was black against white because the unions were white. Or you bring in workers from somewhere else. 'Scabs' is the unfriendly term. What us non elites have is our solidarity. So gain the support of us, Karl Marx's masses, or you do what you can to weaken that solidarity.

What is disappointing for me is how many people can't see that we are being damaged, perhaps irreparably. Apparently until you hit them up side the head they don't know anything is going on.

Blogger DonReynolds June 18, 2019 8:13 AM  

God Emperor Memes wrote:I don't believe the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is intended to apply to them - it is being wrongly used.

And you can prove it.
Just say two words..."American Indian".
The American Indians have been born on US soil for a very long time but they did not become US citizens by the 14th amendment. Not at the time the 14th was ratified or even decades later.

The American Indian became a US citizen in 1925, by Act of Congress, and not by a twisted court interpretation of the 14th amendment.

That proves that the 14th amendment did not make citizens of everyone born on US soil. The 13th amendment freed the black slaves and the 14th amendment made them citizens. It did not apply to anyone else and certainly not to the children of illegal aliens (foreign fugitives or invaders), however you prefer.

Blogger Avalanche June 18, 2019 8:47 AM  

@13 Should put them on chain gangs until they work enough to pay the gov't back for expenses in removing them


Should put them on chain gangs IN MEXICO until they work enough to pay the TAXPAYERS back for expenses of having them here for years (welfare, policing, jailing, hospitals, housing, schooling, AND removing them.

Fix us, fix, the, fix Mexico. FIFY!

Blogger Avalanche June 18, 2019 8:48 AM  

That was: Fix us, fix THEM, fix Mexico. FIFY!
Cawfee hasn't kicked in yet Sorry.

Blogger Harambe June 18, 2019 8:56 AM  

I still want to know how TF low-killed people make it into America and gain permanent residence. I am finding it utterly frustrating trying to even get a job offer because my prospective employer would need to be willing to "sponsor" my visa and we'd basically be married for 5 years or more while my permanent residence and subsequent naturalization application is progress. How is it easier for an unemployed man in a white dress to obtain residence and citizenship?

Blogger Beardy Bear June 18, 2019 9:02 AM  

We are 23 Trillion Dollars in debt, with tens of millions of their foreign nationals all around us. Given this, war would certainly not be a win for anyone involved.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton June 18, 2019 9:02 AM  

The United States has a large enough indigenous lumpen-proletariat that it has no need to import foreign lumpen-proles.

Blogger MortemTyrannus June 18, 2019 9:16 AM  

12? More like 40 million. Send them all home.

Blogger Ivar June 18, 2019 9:23 AM  

At this point, significant demographic adjustment would require national mobilization on a WW II scale, and suspension of the Constitution. Whatever else they can or can't do, the Progs and the CivNats will easily be able to block any real action. Furthermore, most of the people on 'our side' are too mentally disordered and physically soft to do much of anything.

Blogger RC June 18, 2019 9:31 AM  

@Harambe, I think you know the answer to your question. It's all part of the destruction of the West, replacing Americans and their Posterity while gaslighting the dull so thoroughly that they not only approve of their own destruction but actively participate. I know SA is no place to be, but the U.S. wouldn't be on my expat list if I weren't an American. We're on a train that's headed for large-scale violence and war, no place to be unless you enjoy fighting battles not your own.

Blogger sammibandit June 18, 2019 9:37 AM  

I looked into this a while back for comparison purposes. The Normans came to England numbering in 20,000. At the time England had a population about 3.6 million. That's 180 Britons in England to each Norman. Afaik roots still remain in Kent, Eastern Scotland and some of the Northern isles only in legal frameworks and perhaps farm animals they bred. They left virtually no genetic stamp.

If there are 30 million illegals to 300 million Americans that means there's 10 Americans for each illegal.

Blogger Garuna June 18, 2019 9:47 AM  

Guess Blumpf finally decided to take a look at his internal polling and realized that faggotizing Botswana was not what the base voted for.

Blogger Crush Limbraw June 18, 2019 9:49 AM  

This announcement and tonight's rally in Florida - coincidence?
Think not - https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/trump_announces_ice_to_begin_removing_em_millionsem_of_illegal_aliens.html - the usual pattern!

Blogger Garuna June 18, 2019 9:49 AM  

If Trump keeps cucking on immigration, even Biden could beat him.

Blogger Crew June 18, 2019 10:03 AM  

Seems like it's only Fake Americans who oppose him!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/17/movement-re-engages-for-donald-trump-re-election-watch-parties-planned-nationwide-for-presidents-campaign-launch/

Blogger Crew June 18, 2019 10:04 AM  

@38: You have to start somewhere, and if he proves he can get rid of 12 million then there will be lots of support for getting rid of more!

Blogger 357Delta June 18, 2019 10:06 AM  

Stop being such a bunch of hapless defeatists. If Trump fails, he fails and you aren't a smart boy by being a pesimist.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 18, 2019 10:17 AM  

357Delta wrote:Stop being such a bunch of hapless defeatists. If Trump fails, he fails and you aren't a smart boy by being a pesimist.

Damn straight.

The reason that President Trump is doing this now is probably because enough of the wall has been built to make this kind of policy workable.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 18, 2019 10:23 AM  

"They will be removed as fast as they come in," he said. He did not offer specifics.

We won't gain any ground at that rate. I'm not impressed. Trump will have to do better. Still, the journey of 60 million illegals starts with a single thousand.

Blogger Crew June 18, 2019 10:32 AM  

When I see people claiming that "if President Trump does not remove all 39,275,231 illegals, including their anchor babies, then he is a failure and has deserted the American People" I think to myself:

"Hmmm, obviously an anti-Trumper trying to sow dissension!"

It is important to do what you can to get some runs on the board. Getting rid of anchor babies is important, but will likely require a decision by the SC ...

Blogger Haus frau June 18, 2019 10:40 AM  

If he is at all serious about this many illegals will choose to self deport. It would be the smart thing to do. They are highly mobile and a planned exit is far better than detention. He would have to pursue businesses to an uncomfortable extent to really be successful and i dont think he has it in him to do that.

Blogger doctrev June 18, 2019 10:50 AM  

President Trump LOVES minor gestures that the media turns into a Class I apocalypse. I'm betting he starts with easy, final-notice deportations, and the globalists go insane. Easy re-election argument. If he wanted to really leave a mark, start confiscating their property, along with property rented to illegals. That'll send shockwaves throughout the urban cores.

Blogger PJW Gent June 18, 2019 10:55 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:War on Mexico is a win win. Neocons get to see us fight someone, and we get to fight an actual enemy.
And we get to take out the cartels while we are at it.

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 18, 2019 11:04 AM  

Four years ago large scale deportation was not even on the table of public discourse. Now the POTUS has declared it as executive policy.

Yeah, Trump ain't done nuthin', guess I'll go eat worms. STFU.

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 18, 2019 11:09 AM  

" If he wanted to really leave a mark, start confiscating their property, along with property rented to illegals. That'll send shockwaves throughout the urban cores."

On principle I'm usually opposed to such asset forfeiture, but this is war and we need to nuke em' from orbit just to be sure. After the rubble bounces civilized governance may continue again.

Blogger David Ray Milton June 18, 2019 11:18 AM  

It’s an interesting thing for Trump to say if it is just bluster, although he has certainly caved under pressure before. I, for one, have been wondering what he has been up (if anything) over the past few months since he capitulated over the wall funding. Perhaps this mass deportation is what he has been conjuring up. He gets Mexico on board with keeping their people inside the country by threat of tariff and then can remove illegals in our country who will have a lesser chance of returning. It’s not a bad plan.

Additionally, I was also thinking that the reason why he caved about the wall funding this year is because he really wants the government shutdown to happen next year, in the election year. As an election tactic I think that would really energize his base.

Blogger Raker_T June 18, 2019 11:19 AM  

@30 my first thought too, but the whole Trump election was a surprise to me, I expected a Jeb type or first woman. So we'll see.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 18, 2019 11:21 AM  

It's the only way to be sure.

Blogger Gianna June 18, 2019 11:22 AM  

@Harambe
As someone who lived outside the US for a long time and recently has come back, I can assure you the standard of living has dropped noticeably. It's expensive and the taxes are high. As @RC said you may want to look elsewhere - I would.
If you still want to immigrate, understand that although immigration laws are federal they are treated differently in different parts of the country and they are applied differently to different people. My advice is to apply in New York or Miami, they are much more lax. And get yourself a very good lawyer for your paper work. CEOs, etc. get green cards as easily as drivers licenses so get a lawyer who has done a few of them. Otherwise you will pay every year to refile and get nowhere. It's a total racket for normal Europeans.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 18, 2019 11:26 AM  

If whoever is actually in charge were even half-serious about getting the majority illegal aliens out, there wouldn't be a need for deportations in huge numbers. The way to get them to self-deport en masse is to use asset forfeiture against those who hire the illegals and those who are collecting government funds to administer welfare-payments to the illegals - especially churches. This number is only a million at the most. (((Wall Street))) would be unhappy of course as some of their better-paying debt-farms would go belly-up. The Gay Old Pedos would be at least as displeased as many of their top contributors, including (((Uncle Sheldon))), are massive beneficiaries from decades of privatizing profits while socializing costs.

Trump's position is rather like that of Napoleon on Elba. The deep-state, cabal or whatever you want to call it have got him where they want him, at least for now. He's not stupid and surely aware of how weak and incompetent the constant reversals make him look to even many followers not to mention the drooling idiocracy. The reversals are likely forced and are indeed intended to make him look the fool. The thing to keep in mind is that he didn't have to run and take the endless beating he has thus far. He could have been enjoying the billions with Melania and family while watching the whole compost-heap burn from afar. It has to be a love of country which drives him. It's not as if the residents of the compost-heap did nothing to being the fire upon themselves. Believing lies and resolutely refusing to face any truth (called 'being woke' lately in yet another inversion) has consequences, often very deadly ones.

Blogger Crew June 18, 2019 11:38 AM  

They should take their children and go back to their own countries! I don't give a damn if funding for educating the children of illegals dries up!

School Officials Complain as Trump’s Migration Reforms Redirect Funds to American Children

Blogger Argus Bacchus June 18, 2019 11:45 AM  

@57 Raker T

Yeb! would have been our first female and Hispanic president.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 18, 2019 11:50 AM  

A number of folks above have raised excellent points about the actual legal status of the invading foreigners and their millions of offspring. They forget we live in clown world. It's all ghost-dancing around a long-dead constitution and rule of law. "Law" is whatever a blackrobe - paid servant of the oligarchy - says it is on any given day. Even district blackrobes can make national rulings and have done so with increasing regularity since January 2017. The only way to remove a blackrobe is impeachment and conviction, or full-blown martial-law followed by arrest and prison (or better yet a firing squad). The last time a federal blackrobe was impeached and removed was in the 1990s when the Repuke congress managed to remove Alcee Hastings for taking bribes in chamber. He now sits in congress making laws. Logic and normal rules don't apply in clown world. Honk-honk!

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 18, 2019 12:05 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:"Law" is whatever a blackrobe - paid servant of the oligarchy - says it is on any given day.

Until the president decides to start ignoring them; i.e. go Andrew Jackson on them. I long for the day when Trump follows through on the hanging of Jackson's picture in the WH. Hey, I can dream, right?

Blogger Gen. Kong June 18, 2019 12:06 PM  

Since the 2020 campaign is already well under way, I wonder if there we'll see any surfacing of a nationalist left in the USA. It's already a significant factor in Europe and elsewhere but seems to be largely absent here apart from (maybe) some of the Bernie bros. Sanders of course made some populist noises but at the end of the day he's a foreigner who works for globohomo. Likewise, Gabbard made a few remarks which caused the gaslighters of Lügenpresse to screech but she's another foreigner. Trump should win handily against Creepy Old Joe if he manages to stop the massive vote-fraud which took place unopposed in 2018.

Blogger Jason June 18, 2019 12:14 PM  

I would be stunned if there are less than 50 million. Basically an open border for decades and decades and all the incentives in the world (free stuff, greater opportunity) to leave Mexico, Central and South America.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 18, 2019 12:16 PM  

Until the president decides to start ignoring them; i.e. go Andrew Jackson on them. I long for the day when Trump follows through on the hanging of Jackson's picture in the WH. Hey, I can dream, right?

From your keyboard to God's ear. I expect Trump would love to emulate Jackson put is prevented from doing so for the time being. As I noted above, I cannot fathom why the man volunteered for the job other than a genuine love for the country and a desire to do what he could to save it. It's a miserable job and there's a massive deep-state who's been working endlessly to remove him (I suspect Pence is part of the operation). Some have taken the position (Barnhardt in particular) that he's just another worthless Repuke grifter (as nearly all Repukes are). It doesn't add up.

Blogger Nostromo June 18, 2019 12:19 PM  

Or even screw the scrawny whore.

Blogger Lance E June 18, 2019 12:35 PM  

I know it's a serious matter, but I can't help but laugh at the perpetually frozen "12 million" counter. Like an unmarried woman who keeps insisting that every birthday is her 29th.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 18, 2019 12:44 PM  

Haus frau wrote:If he is at all serious about this many illegals will choose to self deport. It would be the smart thing to do.

Yes, just deporting one for every one who shows up at the border would cause an exodus, and discourage new arrivals.

Haus frau wrote:He would have to pursue businesses to an uncomfortable extent to really be successful and i dont think he has it in him to do that.

Trump obviously plans to make the economy a central part of his re-election strategy. I can't imagine that he will hammer business pre-2020, and probably not afterwards.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 18, 2019 12:59 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:"Law" is whatever a blackrobe - paid servant of the oligarchy - says it is on any given day.

Change the blackrobe, change the law. This can bite our enemies same as it can bite us.

Blogger Retrenched June 18, 2019 2:25 PM  

Even if he did this it wouldn't do anything about the new arrivals who cross the border with a child - which is essentially their golden ticket for access to the interior of America because of the law Trump signed several months back. (To be fair it passed with veto proof majority in both houses.)

And what's to stop the newly deported (assuming that any people are actually deported) from showing up at the border again, with children this time, so that DHS will let them back in anyway?

Blogger DonReynolds June 18, 2019 4:34 PM  

Haus frau wrote:If he is at all serious about this many illegals will choose to self deport. It would be the smart thing to do. They are highly mobile and a planned exit is far better than detention.

You are correct. The smart ones will self-deport rather than wait to be deported.

If they are deported, they are prohibited from re-entering the USA for nine years. If they re-enter sooner than nine years, it is a serious Felony, punishable by up to 20 years in Federal prison, even if no other crimes have been committed.

So the smart play would be to dash back to their home country without being apprehended or identified by Border Patrol and immediately apply for lawful entry.

Blogger Reziac June 18, 2019 6:28 PM  

The real point is to normalize the idea of ejecting migrants. Once it's 'acceptable' to deport illegals, that's one step closer to making it 'acceptable' to restrict legal immigration.

Also, if Trump's immigration plan were implemented exactly as written -- it would cut legal immigration by about 90%, because the criteria for entry are quite restrictive. This lets him talk about "more immigrants!" while making it in fact harder for them to get in... kinda like a university advertising that they want everyone to be a student, but only admitting the top 1%. (We want everyone to qualify!! sadly, most of you don't.)

Blogger Meng Greenleaf June 18, 2019 7:34 PM  

Anyone harbouring an illegal alien or who has hired an illegal alien should similarly be deported. Any immigrant who commits a violent crime should have his/her family deported together with 20 randomly selected individuals from their community.

Blogger Brick Hardslab June 18, 2019 8:16 PM  

It's just more hot air. No way our courts let him do this. It will get the usual talking heads talking and that's it.

Blogger Johannmon June 18, 2019 10:15 PM  

One of the myths of the fake right is that there's no way to send back all these illegals. Baloney. A few top of head things would eliminate most of them: *hiring background checks into citizenship, *stop entitlement handouts, *deport anyone pulled over by the cops who isn't a citizen. Self-deporting will occur quickly.

This is simply a problem the gov't and its sponsors don't want to solve. IMO Trump doesn't want to solve it either.

Also, no to putting illegals in prison. We don't need to be paying for them. We do need to prosecute the NGO people abetting this. Which is another thing that would've been done already if the US were serious about addressing the topic.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 19, 2019 11:11 AM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:It's just more hot air. No way our courts let him do this.
Look, there are things the President can do that the courts couldn't stop, that the Congress would be hard-pressed to stop; the BIG issue is that most of our Presidents lacked the allegiance to the US and/or the will to do so.

As proof, here's a simple ten-step program that would be unstoppable by the courts, and would remove a LOT of congressmen:
(1) Deploy troops to the border, with orders to secure it from invasion as per Article 4, Section 4;
(2) Authorize lethal force on the border, which has already been done;
(3) Invite the press for a nice good show/piece, timed to coincide with the next caravan's arrival;
(4) While the press are there, show them to a good vintage point, order A-10s and M-109s to bombard the caravan;
(5) Let the now-horrified press leave;
(6) Wait for the inevitable "He's a Monster!", "Impeach!", and "Our troops are killing harmless refugees!" stories;
(7) Wait for the manufactured outrage to motivate articles of impeachment;
(8) After the vote is cast, have the Army arrest the Aye-voting Reps for their obvious Treason;
(9) Have the Army arrest the newspaper reporters and editors who went to bat for the invaders;
(10) PUBLIC HANGINGS!

And you do the same with courts that try to block the Constitutionally mandated protection of the States from invasion. — I think you'll find it amazing how quickly things turn around once things become a matter of life or death for those self-styled black-robed god-kings.


Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 20, 2019 10:21 AM  

OneWingedShark wrote:... here's a simple ten-step program that would be unstoppable by the courts, and would remove a LOT of congressmen:

That's the Rubicon there, that you're asking Trump to cross. I doubt that Trump would do that to save his life, nor to save his nation.

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