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Friday, June 14, 2019

The irrelevance of conservatism

James Guiran explains why nationalism is necessary at Jacobite:
Establishment conservatism, it seems, is doubling down on its refusal to reckon with the realities of the American political landscape. It’s true that the ascendant left wants to revoke religious liberty, with the goal of subordinating Christianity (specifically Christianity) to the whims of the woke state; but this is only one facet of its platform. It also promotes a view of white Americans reminiscent of the ethnic hatred stoked against market-dominant minorities in certain countries in the 20th century (never mind that white Americans aren’t even the richest demographic!); claims that our country is fundamentally illegitimate; calls for the destruction of our borders; pushes for a credentialist economy in which no one can succeed without first obtaining permission from a committee of progressive priests, who will dispense it based more on loyalty to the cause than on any apolitical notion of merit; advocates for the abolition of the nation-state in favor of a tightly controlled and managed ‘inclusive society’ in which the inevitable ethnic conflict will provide the ruling structure with a bottomless well of opportunities to justify its own expansion; and seeks to subordinate everything, from colleges to corporations to open-source software organizations to knitting groups, to an arbitrary and intentionally byzantine code of conduct, in order to purge infidels from the whole of society. This is not ‘libertine,’ it is totalitarian. And the totality of that agenda must be opposed.

The conservative debate thus far has been premised on the idea that the proper response to Trump, the proper way forward, is to simply revitalize the platform of the Moral Majority. Not only does this fail to address many of the problems facing our country today ⁠— it has little, if anything, to say about immigration, which is necessarily the most pressing issue because its effects are permanent and irreversible  —  it offers little potential for attaining true hegemony.
If, at this juncture, you are still describing yourself as a "conservative" instead of a "nationalist", you are completely failing to grasp the nature of the cultural conflict. Conservatism can no more save America than Churchianity can save your soul.

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73 Comments:

Blogger Laramie Hirsch June 14, 2019 8:27 AM  

The leftist fools make new rules for themselves to use against us. Once we adopt those rules and snap back like a rubberband, it'll be vicious.

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2019 8:34 AM  

> ...it has little, if anything, to say about immigration, which is necessarily the most pressing issue because its effects are permanent and irreversible

Irreversible? Oh, I don't think so. You might not like the methods used to reverse it though.

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2019 8:35 AM  

> Once we adopt those rules and snap back like a rubberband, it'll be vicious.

The mere fact that we've starting using the less violent ones literally drives them insane.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch June 14, 2019 8:38 AM  

Seriously, don't these idiots know we're going to do all this to them? Big time? Good and hard?

Blogger Nation-Deprived June 14, 2019 8:44 AM  

Whatever it takes.

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2019 8:45 AM  

@4 As Aesop has pointed out, the left plans to rely on useful idiots in the police and military to enforce their takeover, a very questionable assumption...At the civilian level, however, in most parts of the country Antifa would be wiped out in weeks, or less....

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2019 8:48 AM  

But clearly "conservatives" are not just irrelevant, but extremely harmful at this point...clowns like David French, or the Kushners, are Judas goats..

Blogger Amy June 14, 2019 8:49 AM  

George Will says Trump more damaging to USA than Nixon.

I think he’s mixing up 44 and 45.

Blogger Stilicho June 14, 2019 8:49 AM  

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for Conservatives to do... what they have always done.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 14, 2019 8:50 AM  

Those conservatives have joined in on the libel and slander campaign of the Cultural Marxists, and the made up secular sins of sexism, racism and homophobia.

Blogger Stilicho June 14, 2019 8:52 AM  

@pyrrhus David French is a cheese-eating surrender flunky

Blogger The Gaelic Lands June 14, 2019 8:57 AM  

@8: Sat on a flight next to George Will. One of the creepiest people I've ever met. Would not be surprised to see him carrying a `pizza' menu.

Blogger The Gaelic Lands June 14, 2019 9:01 AM  

Perhaps I've been mistaken all this time as I thought Jacobite was a leftist/progressive/Bolshevik/communist publication. Will have to give it a better look.

Blogger Johnny June 14, 2019 9:01 AM  

What has become apparent to me is that civility and decency are weapons of the establishment, and that is any establishment, not just the current one. That is why people who understand politics on an emotional level are so frequently given to acting up. Make a lot of noise, block roads, break shop windows, steal things, terrorism, whatever. Incivility breeds discontent and thus is a threat to the establishment.

Blogger Amy June 14, 2019 9:14 AM  

Perhaps it’s the confusion between the terms Jacobite (whom sought restoration of the Scottish throne) and jacobins, vicious enlightenment thinkers in France during the revolution, whom murdered the aristocracy in the name of libertè, egalite, and fraternitie

Blogger Gettimothy June 14, 2019 9:29 AM  

The Orthosphere has a essay describing the French Revolution is remarkably similar to today.

https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/2019/06/11/a-head-on-a-pike-francois-rene-vicomte-de-chateaubriand-on-the-revolution/

Blogger binks webelf June 14, 2019 9:30 AM  

Amy said: "Perhaps it’s the confusion between the terms Jacobite (whom sought restoration of the Scottish throne) and jacobins, vicious enlightenment thinkers in France during the revolution, whom murdered the aristocracy in the name of libertè, egalite, and fraternitie."

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Horrid old Marx loved him some Jacobins & bloody revolution. So did others:

“Both Lenin and Hitler praised their Jacobin filiation. From the Jacobin sans-culottes came the Red Guard and the SS. The red and black ideologies of extermination justified their genocides with arguments similar to those used by the Convention to justify the genocide in Vendée.

And the Jacobin ideology continues to inspire the subversion of the ideas of liberty, equality and fraternity into a totalitarian individualism that destroys the natural communities, beginning with the family, and that confiscates the fundamental freedom of education of children by their parents."

https://steynian.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/when-le-hobbits-fought-back/

Blogger binks webelf June 14, 2019 9:32 AM  

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Blogger Mister Excitement June 14, 2019 9:36 AM  

"If, at this juncture, you are still describing yourself as a "conservative" instead of a "nationalist", you are completely failing to grasp the nature of the cultural conflict."


Well said, and something I also concluded a while ago.

Anybody still calling himself a "Conservative" isn't to be taken seriously.

The question "Conservatives" can't answer isn't "What have you conserved?," it's, "At this point, what are you even trying to conserve?"

Tranny story time is the most vile and obscene display of evil I've seen in my lifetime, and the Conservatives have no answer for it. Some even make excuses for it.

Blogger binks webelf June 14, 2019 9:38 AM  

Speaking of destroying natural communities like families, "Parent One" Day is almost here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUcJmTw0LlU
Mark Dice-- What Have They Done to Father's Day?!?

I commented:

"I am public enemy number one for the new Jacobins hordes. Once-married non-progressive white male Christian. And a father of twin sons. Plus, all that male privilege. Total monster, right?

The latest enemies of God & man may rage, but I'm ACTUALLY married, as God commanded it. My wife & I have our own NATURALLY MADE kids. We've raised them to be awake, and to fight for the good, the true, and the beautiful, versus the orcish revolution of the SJWs.

Love God. Get married. Make babies. Love the true, the good and the beautiful. Tell others. And above all, NEVER APOLOGIZE to the orcs. It just gets them more blood thirsty."

Blogger Uncle Maffoo June 14, 2019 9:59 AM  

We clearly haven't figured out the best way to explain the benefits of free enterprise and low marginal tax rates!

Maybe if we learned how to say things like "personal responsibility" and "federalism" in Spanish we'd finally get those Natural Conservatives on our side!

Blogger Ledford Ledford June 14, 2019 10:16 AM  

The most important battle is in the Churches. Drive the Frenchist mensheviks from any leadership position.

I'm talking to you Southern Baptists.

Blogger binks webelf June 14, 2019 10:20 AM  

"The most important battle is in the Churches."

Most seminaries & theology colleges are converged. That is, when the elites aren't actually chasing good men away.

https://steynian.wordpress.com/2017/09/22/spiritual-mass-murder-is-fun/
Spiritual Mass Murder Is Fun

Also--

Is this even parody any more?

https://babylonbee.com/news/fathers-day-updated-to-toxic-masculinity-awareness-day
Father’s Day Updated To 'Toxic Masculinity Awareness Day'

Blogger Ska_Boss June 14, 2019 10:22 AM  

Yuri Bezmenov described in detail how these idiots are used to destabilize entire countries and how when they finally think they have reached their progressive utopia that is free of hatred and racism and bigotry where everyone is equal they find themselves on the receiving end of a firing squad. It's a race to the bottom.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 14, 2019 10:34 AM  

"The conservative debate thus far has been premised on the idea that the proper response to Trump, the proper way forward, is to simply revitalize the platform of the Moral Majority."

Many of them are even dumber than that. Conservative commentator Tomi Lahren says we need to blow off all the social issues and focus on personal freedom and limited government. She even took a swipe at the "religious right," sounding like a 1990 libertarian.

Blogger kurt9 June 14, 2019 10:40 AM  

You guys are not the first to call it.

The thousand-state sovereignty model.

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/a-world-of-1000-nations/

We actually discussed this possibility in business school in 1990.

Blogger Ledford Ledford June 14, 2019 10:41 AM  

Most seminaries & theology colleges are converged. That is, when the elites aren't actually chasing good men away.

I believe the Missouri Synod Lutherans at Concordia Seminary are not. They've won some battles against convergers. Worth studying for others facing such struggles.

Blogger dienw June 14, 2019 10:45 AM  

Conservatives won't stop reparations either:
The topic of reparations for slavery is headed to Capitol Hill for its first hearing in more than a decade with writer Ta-Nehisi Coates and actor Danny Glover set to testify before a House panel.

Blogger David Ray Milton June 14, 2019 10:46 AM  

@Ledford Ledford

Agreed. There is nothing that is compromising the cause more than religious leaders. As long as the sissy pastors are pushing a Neo-Babel theology, the fight is up hill. If churches embrace nationalism, then the tide is turned, if for no other reason than actual men will start attending again. “Be nice and give warm fuzzies to everyone” is not a message that appeals to men.

Blogger wahr01 June 14, 2019 11:01 AM  

@29

This is a legacy of Dubya's corrupt "faith-based initiatives"

He funnelled money from the state into churches for "refugee resettlement" and other such globalist programs, effectively re-structuring the churches by making their primary revenue stream come from human trafficking.

At this point the only way to stop it is to bust them and perp-walk every related official.

Blogger BastionHarm June 14, 2019 11:08 AM  

As long as the sissy pastors are pushing a Neo-Babel theology, the fight is up hill. If churches embrace nationalism, then the tide is turned, if for no other reason than actual men will start attending again. “Be nice and give warm fuzzies to everyone” is not a message that appeals to men.

My ROCOR parish has seen a lot of growth in the past 18 months. Whereas as recently as a few years ago it was mostly all Russian immigrants, now it is half & half, with a LOT of people, younger people especially, joining the parish from American Protestant backgrounds. And these younger folk are very aware of this blog, other Alt-Right blogs and authors, are in to "spicy memes" and are quite open and vocal in their rejection of globo-homo and all its variations.

Gives me hope...

Blogger RandyB June 14, 2019 11:20 AM  

They are now. Annual multi-culti celebration.

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2019 11:24 AM  

Long ago, Adam Smith wrote "there is a lot of ruin in a country." The USA seems determined to test and exceed the limits of ruin in every aspect of life...and the "conservatives" are along for the ride.

Blogger Alexamenos June 14, 2019 11:33 AM  

Recently from Jonah Goldberg, The Conservative Case for Drag Queen Story Hour:

"The solution to the culture wars is to allow more freedom for these 'little platoons' of civil society from which people draw a sense of meaning and belonging. If Sacramento wants Drag Queen Story Hour, so be it."

Blogger MightyKevster June 14, 2019 11:43 AM  

Conservatism is a haven for cultural cowards who, like SJWs, hurl insults and make mean faces at nationalists for speaking the truth and having spines in the face of societal degradation. Replace conservative calls for 'civility' with calls for surrender, and the facade of confident 'individualism' they preach is revealed as little more than a scared child hiding in a corner awaiting the next beating. The longer this tiff between NRO-types and moralists continue, the more conservatives reveal their slavish devotion to destroying anything true, good, and beautiful that God has allowed the West to propagate throughout the world.

I praise God for the opportunity to raise and disciple children in these times where God fearing men will be crucially necessary.

Blogger Gettimothy June 14, 2019 11:48 AM  

"The solution to the culture wars is to allow more freedom for these 'little platoons' of civil society from which people draw a sense of meaning and belonging. If Sacramento wants Drag Queen Story Hour, so be it."

Goldberg does not grok the nature of the totalitarian evil we face.

Blogger wahr01 June 14, 2019 11:48 AM  

@35

That actually sounds like a good sequel to the "men kamph" addon that was popular a few years ago.

"surrendermonkey": Replaces references to 'civility' with references to 'surrender' in website text - load up your favorte Max Boot or David French article and enjoy the clarity.

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2019 11:52 AM  

Oberlin College and its crew of diverse criminals take a beating in the courts...https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/06/14/a-good-start/

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 14, 2019 11:56 AM  

BastionHarm wrote:...
My ROCOR parish has seen a lot of growth in the past 18 months... And these younger folk are very aware of this blog, other Alt-Right blogs and authors, are in to "spicy memes" and are quite open and vocal in their rejection of globo-homo and all its variations.

Gives me hope...


It's mixed at our parish. They have a copy of "The Irrational Atheist" in our library, our Priest thought it was fun and entertaining.

He's critical of Trump, but only in personal conversation, nothing political in his homilies except exhorting and defending our traditional opposition to abortion and modern pop-cultural promotion of fornication, which The Church defines as any intimate sexual activity outside the traditional marriage of one man and one woman for life. That is what I was also taught about abortion and sex as a child in the SBC. Times have changed there.

Ilk-ish leaning folk like me a rare. I've run into one Jay Dyer fan but he was an inquiring ex-prot-calvinist.

The neo-cons and multi-culti fans live with the understanding that the Orthodox Church is not going to be converged any time soon. When explained to them how it would take another Ecumenical Council to make any changes to our creed, liturgy, or patriarchal hierarchy they pretty much shut up about related topics like women in clergy, same-sex anything, cheer-leading for Israel etc. I haven't heard anyone even mention the ongoing Ukrainian schismatic issues. Most just avoid discussing sociopolitical matters with me now, and that's fine with me.

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 14, 2019 11:59 AM  

"The solution to the culture wars is to allow more freedom for these 'little platoons' of civil society"

No, because they have no intention of reciprocating but will attempt forcing approval and participation by uncivil means if necessary. Nothing "civil" about it.

Blogger Alexamenos June 14, 2019 12:05 PM  

'No, because they have no intention of reciprocating but will attempt forcing approval and participation by uncivil means if necessary. Nothing "civil" about it.'


I believe that Goldberg's point was that things worked just fine when we had a community of southern Baptists practicing full submersion over here, and a community of Methodists sprinkling a kid's head over there. Accordingly, a community of Baptists over here and a community of Aztecs practicing human sacrifice over there ought to work just fine as well.

Blogger binks webelf June 14, 2019 12:07 PM  

OT:

Bastards For Censorship

Adpocalypse/ Social media muzzling? ADL, Soros, Koch Bros, and usual suspects, oh my!

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/32580-koch-brothers-ally-with-george-soros-to-push-leftist-online-censorship
Koch Brothers Ally With George Soros to Push (Leftist) Online Censorship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5B_EdA_9WI
Look Who's Really Behind the Recent Tech Censorship

https://www.bitchute.com/video/N8aqW15HQpfa/
GEORGE SOROS, KOCH BROTHERS & ADL TEAM UP TO FIGHT "EXTREMISM" + PINTEREST EXPOSES MAJOR BIAS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcqctKQpJk4
Who is to Blame for YouTube Censorship?




Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 14, 2019 12:09 PM  

Gettimothy wrote:Goldberg does not grok the nature of the totalitarian evil we face.
Goldberg understands the evil we face perfectly, probably better than you do. It's just that he's on board with it, as long as he can continue to make an incredibly good living by pretending to oppose it.

Blogger MightyKevster June 14, 2019 12:15 PM  

Alexamenos wrote:

I believe that Goldberg's point was that things worked just fine when we had a community of southern Baptists practicing full submersion over here, and a community of Methodists sprinkling a kid's head over there. Accordingly, a community of Baptists over here and a community of Aztecs practicing human sacrifice over there ought to work just fine as well.


Spectacular illustration!

Blogger Nostromo June 14, 2019 12:33 PM  

Less. Antifa only exists as long as leftist are in power.

Blogger Sheila4g June 14, 2019 12:35 PM  

While the Jacobite article ends with a call for nationalism and an end to the war on Whites, it otherwise ignores race, ethnicity, and the inherent cultural conflict of diversity. It could just as easily be interpreted as a call for a more aggressive form of civnattery, unless I am missing something (quite likely).

Blogger Nostromo June 14, 2019 12:35 PM  

At one time, I was callow enough to admire George Will. Thank the lord, those days are gone, and they took my acne and my virginity with them.

Blogger Aeroschmidt June 14, 2019 12:46 PM  

They're on the same course. LCMS is just slower.

Blogger Student in Blue June 14, 2019 12:50 PM  

@48. Aeroschmidt
They're on the same course. LCMS is just slower.

And why do you say that?

Blogger Aeroschmidt June 14, 2019 12:58 PM  

They allow women to vote.

Blogger Jehu June 14, 2019 1:00 PM  

Any organization that doesn't explicitly adopt a position that they don't care at all about 'racism' will be converged. Why? Because its a word with no fixed definition and you don't control the 'evolving' definition of that word. Unless you explicitly don't care about it and anything connected to it, you will be made to dance like a damned bear on a 10-15 year time lag.

Blogger DonReynolds June 14, 2019 1:04 PM  

Without intending to do so, I am pretty certain, you have touched on an unanswered question that has haunted me for all of fifty years.

What conservatism promised was a stable society, which is also essential for families and the domestic peace and the rule of law and the protection of private property and individual rights and freedoms, guaranteed by the state.

In such a society, when the mores of the people change...and sometimes they do...representative government and constitutional amendments COULD slowly adapt to the change in the minds of the citizens. So far, so good.

But what if Karl Marx or Lenin came back from the grave and did a real sales job on the media, and through them convinced the majority in this country? As difficult as it was to imagine, there could actually be a mania (of crowds) or a stampede to communism. History is repetitive on the subject of Leftists getting ANY leverage or power in a society. They are totalitarians, and always were. They do not share power in a society without wanting it all. There is no compromise with them that does not lead to more compromise (again) next week and the following week, until they feel confident enough to brush aside all contrary and non-agenda beliefs and opinions, very often by murder or incarceration.

One of the distinctive features of a civil war that sets it apart from other sorts of wars is that civil wars are fought over THE FUTURE. Two or more factions with entirely different destinations being divided by a fork in the road. Since we all ride on the same bus, that destination must be decided for everyone before they can proceed and it may be necessary to use force, and not just forceful words, or we may end up where we never intended to go and from which we can never return.

Blogger SciVo June 14, 2019 1:04 PM  

Naturally, part of the problem is that many conservatives in the Anglosphere aren't even really all that attached Western Civ, let alone a specific country in it. See for example Time to Leave Western Civ Behind: Looking for a Place to Emigrate (h/t Instapundit) by David Solway.

Before checking his profile, I hypothesized that the sort of person most likely to run away rather than fight to keep his country is a rootless cosmopolitan, or which Diasporans are the epitome. And whaddaya know: "David Solway (born 8 December 1941) is a Canadian poet, educational theorist, travel writer and literary critic of Jewish descent."

Now, to be fair, once I read the article, I found that it is clearly sarcastic in its argument. However, I found no evidence that he was joking about his conclusion: "I for one am heartily sick of the sordid project of Western civilization and am desperately seeking a place where I can emigrate."

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 14, 2019 1:45 PM  

Alexamenos wrote:Recently from Jonah Goldberg, The Conservative Case for Drag Queen Story Hour

What else would you expect from (((him))).

Blogger JG June 14, 2019 1:50 PM  

The Koch Bros teaming with Soros only reveals the truth: It's not about ideology, it's about nationalism vs. globalism.

In starker terms, it's Christianity vs. Satan.

Blogger dienw June 14, 2019 1:59 PM  

Hell, the (((conservatives))) are now off-shoring even our top tech industries -- to Jewkana:

The fact that this massive transfer of investment and jobs [to Israel] has been so overlooked is particularly striking given that it is largely the work of a single leading neoconservative Republican donor who has given millions of dollars to President Donald Trump.

Truly,these people are a curse to every nation upon the face of the Earth.

Blogger Bird on a Wing June 14, 2019 2:12 PM  

Gettimothy wrote:"The solution to the culture wars is to allow more freedom for these 'little platoons' of civil society from which people draw a sense of meaning and belonging. If Sacramento wants Drag Queen Story Hour, so be it."

Goldberg does not grok the nature of the totalitarian evil we face.



Goldberg is merely a small, occluded and dull facet on that face. How many of those facets are being publicly revealed right now? How many more will we see in the near future? We are in a time where diabolical things that were purposefully hidden are now being clearly revealed. Sometimes it is in public view of many people, other times it is by and for the individuals themselves. It is an ongoing process that is proceeding at the right time and in the right pace; it is happening at all levels, and in all circles. It is changing hearts and minds at the individual level – that is its purpose. That is what truth revealed does.

Blogger Skyler the Weird June 14, 2019 2:14 PM  

George Will was OK in the 80's til the CONservatives took over Congress in 1996 and did nothing to conserve nor reverse anything.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville June 14, 2019 2:18 PM  

@52 Don, I think you are on target with the "madness of crowds" thought. We are ripe for some manias, and have been seeing them in various areas the last twenty years such as dot.com, real estate, etc. I see a budding interest in socialism among the younger historically illiterate crowd, but even the historically aware but suffering would be susceptible to the big lies of socialist mania.

Blogger Dyspeptic June 14, 2019 2:47 PM  

The truth about Conservatives is that the only things they actually conserve are the victories of their political opponents. To make matters worse, they're too stupid to even realize that their opponents are not merely good people with bad ideas but rather implacable and demonic enemies of everything conservatives claim to believe.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 14, 2019 4:39 PM  

Before checking his profile, I hypothesized that the sort of person most likely to run away rather than fight to keep his country is a rootless cosmopolitan, or which Diasporans are the epitome. And whaddaya know: "David Solway (born 8 December 1941) is a Canadian poet, educational theorist, travel writer and literary critic of Jewish descent."

Now, to be fair, once I read the article, I found that it is clearly sarcastic in its argument. However, I found no evidence that he was joking about his conclusion: "I for one am heartily sick of the sordid project of Western civilization and am desperately seeking a place where I can emigrate."


@53 SciVo
I've always found it strange that (((Diasporan subversives))) absolutely refuse to consider Israel as a possible place to emigrate.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 14, 2019 4:47 PM  

O/T: the NZ Shooter has entered Not Guilty pleas to all charges, thus ensuring an expensive and lengthy public trial. The attempt by the NZ government and their media cronies to silence Brenton Tarrant and stuff him into a memory hole is not going so well for them...

Blogger Rhys June 14, 2019 5:40 PM  

The best conservatives are simply completely inffective.

The worst ones are actively being bribed by the other side.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 14, 2019 5:47 PM  

Rhys wrote:The worst ones are actively being bribed by the other side.
No, the (((absolute worst ones))) are extracting money from our side on the false claim that they are working to advance our interests.

Blogger DonReynolds June 14, 2019 5:52 PM  

Rhys wrote:The best conservatives are simply completely inffective.

The worst ones are actively being bribed by the other side.


The best conservatives are drunk on idealism, an idealism that hardly anyone else shares, which makes them fools. So they still try to make deals with the Devil with a handshake, believing the Devil will keep his end of the bargain, and thinking he has outsmarted the Devil.

The worst conservatives insist they ARE conservatives, but believe in nothing that would pass for conservatism. For them conservatism is a t-shirt that enables them to get in the club without having to pay a cover charge. They never prove their conservatism, because they never were, but they play one on news channels and they stayed at Holday Inn last night.....so they can wing it.

But there is another sort of conservative that is seldom mentioned these days....the reactionary, who has none of the non-aggression principles of the libertarians and will never make a deal with the Devil and never admit that change is possible or desirable. He will defend the order with sword in hand and take on all comers, regardless of the odds. There are still a few left, but not many.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 14, 2019 6:06 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:But there is another sort of conservative that is seldom mentioned these days....the reactionary, who has none of the non-aggression principles of the libertarians and will never make a deal with the Devil and never admit that change is possible or desirable. He will defend the order with sword in hand and take on all comers, regardless of the odds. There are still a few left, but not many.
That person is not a Conservative. That person is a Traditionalist or a Reactionary. Traditionalists want to reverse the horrible decisions that are being used to destroy us. Reactionaries just want to put an end to Marxism, whatever atrocities ensue. Both are of the Right.
Conservatives are low-cost liberals with no thought for future generations. They don't want to stop the train, they want it to slow down so they can enjoy the scenery.

Blogger John June 14, 2019 6:07 PM  

@32 Randy: "They are now. Annual multi-culti celebration."

Nope. The LCMS is full of basic-bitch cucked conservatives and there are plenty of converged congregations, but the vast majority of our congregations are not converged and neither of our seminaries are converged. In fact are seminaries are as far from converged as possible. In the "more liberal" seminary (that's "liberal" by our standards of internecine seminary rivalry— St. Louis is NOT liberal) literally forced out an entire seminary class and almost all the seminary profs in the '70s.

The holdout liberal pastors who graduated in the years leading up to Seminex are all dying off, and the wishy-washy Gen-Xers won't be far behind them. There is literally no one to replace them, because all the guys coming out of Sem are orthodox.

You can ask literally any of our seminarians or sem profs about the J e w s, Zionism, social justice, feminism, equality, whatever. If the J e w s knew casually we talked about the evils of their theological forefathers in our sermons and bible classes the LCMS would be on all the usual hit lists. The average LCMS layman just hasn't drawn the implications.

The LCMS is sound on theology, and part of that theology is our careful separation of the authorities of Church and State. This is why, in practice, the cuckery of the average LCMS layman is irrelevant. That cuckery is quarantined by our institutionalized theology, literally going all the way back to the Reformation. And it's because of this that the LCMS currently tolerates antinationalism and secularism. The flip side, of course, is that as tidal wave of nationalism sweeps over Christendom, the LCMS will fall in line. Because there is NOTHING in our theology to defend the lies of classical liberal or the current bastard liberal-satanic antisocial order.

God did not ordain government to protect the rights and liberties of its citizens, but to preserve civil order and smite the wicked with divine vengeance, as per Romans 13.


@48.  Aeroschmidt "They're on the same course. LCMS is just slower."
@50.  Aeroschmidt "They allow women to vote."

For now. But the impact of women is institutionally minimized and will remain so for several reasons. First of all, the LCMS will never ever permit women to be ordained. That ship sailed in the 70s. Second, our synod voting structure is set up so that half the delegates are pastors, which means on average no more than 25% would be women, in general it's far less than that, and because we are not converged there is no great push to "bring in more women." Third, confessional congregations that permit women vote locally base that policy on no theological grounds, and anyway they do not permit women to hold high office, such as elders or congregational presidents.

The LCMS has weathered the storm of feminism unlike the rest of Protestantism, and it will weather the cucks too.

Blogger SciVo June 14, 2019 6:31 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:I've always found it strange that (((Diasporan subversives))) absolutely refuse to consider Israel as a possible place to emigrate.

I assume you're being sarcastic, because it is plain that for the ruthless Levantine cutthroat, there is a personal advantage to inhabiting a country full of high-trust peoples (easy marks).

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2019 8:02 PM  

> If Sacramento wants Drag Queen Story Hour, so be it.

I have no problem with Sacramento playing the role of Sodom as long as we can arrange for the same ending.

> Goldberg does not grok the nature of the totalitarian evil we face.

What do you mean we kemosabe? Or have you forgotten that it's (((Goldberg)))? But even allowing for that, you're wrong.

> Goldberg understands the evil we face perfectly, probably better than you do. It's just that he's on board with it, as long as he can continue to make an incredibly good living by pretending to oppose it.

Exactly. And when it can't, he'll retreat to the safe haven his people are keeping for him.

Blogger FrankNorman June 15, 2019 2:53 AM  

61. VFM #7634 June 14, 2019 4:39 PM
I've always found it strange that (((Diasporan subversives))) absolutely refuse to consider Israel as a possible place to emigrate.


Not inexplicable. If such people have made "my people are homeless nomads with no country of our own" an important part of their whole cultural identity, then going to live somewhere which that people do have as their own would mean giving that up.

Blogger bdoran June 15, 2019 8:19 AM  

Yes- of course it’s reversible.

Like’s got nothing to do with it.

Blogger bdoran June 15, 2019 8:20 AM  

That is priceless.

Blogger sammibandit June 15, 2019 9:53 AM  

>Many of them are even dumber than that. Conservative commentator Tomi Lahren says we need to blow off all the social issues and focus on personal freedom and limited government. She even took a swipe at the "religious right," sounding like a 1990 libertarian.

A prostitute would say that.

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