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Friday, July 05, 2019

A charade of justice

Tommy Robinson is found guilty of contempt of court:
Tommy Robinson could be sent back to jail after he was again found in contempt of court today. Robinson was found to have broken the law by 'aggressively confronting and filming' defendants in a criminal trial and posting the footage on social media, in breach of a reporting ban, outside Leeds Crown Court in May 2018.

Following a long-running legal back-and-forth, the case was settled at the Old Bailey today, where a large crowd of Robinson's fans turned nasty after the verdict.

As news of the judges' ruling trickled through, a group of his supporters ran at barriers sectioning off police from the public, throwing missiles and chanting 'shame on you'.

Robinson was previously jailed for the offence, but freed on appeal.

He'll now have to wait to see whether he'll be sent back to prison or be allowed to keep his freedom having already served two months of a 13-month sentence.

Today's verdict means Robinson will return to prison if he is given a sentence of four months or more when he returns to court later this month. Anything less than that and he will have already served half the custodial period.
This strikes me as more gatekeeping kabuki than anything else. Tommy Robinson is clearly not a genuine nationalist or someone I would consider it meaningful to support. He's very nearly as neoclownish as Jordan Peterson.

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115 Comments:

Blogger lynnjynh9315 July 05, 2019 1:01 PM  

Britain is similar to the US: it is a confederation of different nationalities. This impedes genuine nationalism from taking form, especially with the English nation that formed the empire to begin with.

Scottish, Welsh, Irish, and Cornish nationalism will appear and fare better than English nationalism. For the time being, civic nationalism will reign.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 05, 2019 1:05 PM  

Doesn't TR parrot the same kind of boomer civnat stuff about Islam that we see here? Even Cernovich says Islam is a beautiful religion

Blogger Cobrates July 05, 2019 1:08 PM  

In his speech outside court Tommy argued that the Media should be standing with him.

Blogger FrankNorman July 05, 2019 1:10 PM  

This strikes me as more gatekeeping kabuki than anything else. Tommy Robinson is clearly not a genuine nationalist or someone I would consider it meaningful to support. He's very nearly as neoclownish as Jordan Peterson.


There's a spectrum of positions. While it may in the end boil down into being on one side or the other, lots of people don't yet see that.

And the Left are well known to turn against their own - it's one of the things that eventually drives people away from them.

Blogger VD July 05, 2019 1:13 PM  

Doesn't TR parrot the same kind of boomer civnat stuff about Islam that we see here?

More importantly, he has said "I acknowledge the dangers of far-right extremism and the ongoing need to counter Islamist ideology not with violence but with better, democratic ideas." He also disinvited Owen Benjamin from an event in the UK.

I don't take him seriously.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 05, 2019 1:19 PM  

Vox, he's in the Alt-light category you spelled out in a periscope you did a couple years ago.

Blogger Crew July 05, 2019 1:32 PM  

He's a Judas Rightist. Encourages others to follow his example so they can get harsher treatment than he does.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums July 05, 2019 1:40 PM  

Hold on. Wasn't he arrested on the same charges then let go because he appealed? How can he be indicted on the same charges if the case was resolved?

I am also fully aware I'm asking for logic from a legal system that requires its practitioners to wear funny wigs in public.

Blogger Crew July 05, 2019 1:56 PM  

@8: "DOUBLE jeopardy laws in the UK were scrapped in 2005 following a number of campaigns - most notably that of the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence."

Blogger Wazdakka July 05, 2019 2:01 PM  

He is an English nationalist and is one of the few voices raising concerns about the failures of multiculturalism.
Unfortunately he really isn't all that bright and is easily led astray by any half convincing argument.
To the ruling classes he is both a gift and someone to fear. He is easily vilified and used as a poster boy by the press to represent the evils of right wing extremism, but if he could unify a base it would upset the political order.

It does look like they are trying to martyr him in prison though. Probably not the wisest move.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums July 05, 2019 2:08 PM  

Crew wrote:@8: "DOUBLE jeopardy laws in the UK were scrapped in 2005 following a number of campaigns - most notably that of the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence."

Well that's insane. It's literally clown country, colorful wigs and everything.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums July 05, 2019 2:13 PM  

Wazdakka wrote:It does look like they are trying to martyr him in prison though. Probably not the wisest move.

It's election time in the UK. Different factions are trying to stir things up all in an attempt to look to the public like they're doing something. If Nigel is gonna jump in defense of Tommy I'll just write this off as just a viral campaign technique of no real consequence.

Blogger Steb July 05, 2019 2:16 PM  

He's an Israeli puppet, but his fate is our fate (in the UK) like it or not

Blogger Joe Smith July 05, 2019 2:28 PM  

Robinson isn't a deep man, he's just correct about the dangers of Islam. He's a CivNat and all that, but he shouldn't be thrown in jail (where plenty of jihadists would love to shank him) for showing the public the mass rapists that the British legal system is trying to quietly sweep under the rug. But of course no justice will be had, because the British legal system is about protecting Vibrants, not doling out justice.

Blogger Robert Browning July 05, 2019 2:28 PM  

Robinson is a Jew shill. It is all about baiting white Christians into acting in a very un-Christian like way then guilty them out afterwards for big gains.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 2:35 PM  

An actual Christian Nationalist called William Frazer died of cancer a week ago in Northern Ireland, he didn't go around breaking the law and getting arrested, and starting violence. The globalist state doesn't fear groups like Britain First or Tommy Robinson, they are enabled opposition. As the state knows these people are morons and will break the law soon enough, without having any local support or morale to challenge the state in any area of the nation. They will protest and post on Facebook and that's it. They are useless. The Alt-right as a whole in Britain is useless. Only the Protestant Loyalists in Northern Ireland are capable.

Any person or group which isn't first and foremost Christian isn't worth supporting. Anyone who has direct support from Jewish groups shouldn't be supported. Anyone who spends all their time complaining and not actually doing anything shouldn't be supported.

@10 why would we support someone who is dumb? I have said it before, but the British working class can't lead or rule anything. It needs to be the middle class or Aristocracy.

Blogger xevious2030 July 05, 2019 2:38 PM  

Going to jail for posting pictures/video of a pedophile ring. Could hate the guy, and it's still BS. With all his imperfections, and whatever stupid personality decisions he has made, he did the right thing and is paying a very real personal price for it. Is he the best person to lead? No. But he fights with his ass on the line. Seen two general uncouth types from the UK, the striker and the brawler. Metaphorically, he appears to be the former, and their swing tends to be less wide.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 2:41 PM  

@14 No he isn't, there are no dangers from Islam. They are used as a scapegoat by the globalists state, so instead of working to restore our nations and overthrow the state, we go after the Muslims. Who aren't a threat, if you compare Islam to the globalist state which has manipulation over the realm of Albion. I like and respect true Muslims, I don't worry about them. They are a false threat.

Blogger JD Curtis July 05, 2019 2:44 PM  

I think he's an EDL member who hit it big via Rebel Media and YouTube monetization and tried to temper his message as to not offend.

Blogger Seeingsights July 05, 2019 2:45 PM  

This is another example of the vicious globalism of Theresa May. Her sabotaging of Brexit is another example. A third example is the prosecution of Julian Assange.
If A populist/nationalist was Prime Minister, the events listed in the first paragraph of this post would not have happened.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 2:47 PM  

@17 The people like Tommy Robinson just exist to make people angry and that's it. As anger is a cul de sack which can only lead to fear or numbness. They is why positing about all the evil stuff the not-British population does leads nowhere. You need to help people get out the anger, not remain in it forever.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums July 05, 2019 2:48 PM  

John Best. wrote:@14 No he isn't, there are no dangers from Islam. They are used as a scapegoat by the globalists state, so instead of working to restore our nations and overthrow the state, we go after the Muslims. Who aren't a threat, if you compare Islam to the globalist state which has manipulation over the realm of Albion. I like and respect true Muslims, I don't worry about them. They are a false threat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Blogger D E K July 05, 2019 2:48 PM  

VD could you make a darkstream about your thoughts regarding TR please?
In Germany we have this new thing ban the political Islam. Instead of Islamismus we now speak about "der politische Islam". I know that this whole idea is BS, but it does not sound radical for some Leftist...where is the harm to ban the bad stuff in the Quran? Who wants to beat women after all. It is clear to me, that the whole Quran is not reformable, but when this is clear to the Leftists that now on our side, we can push all muslims or all of Islam out if the country. I see things TR did that helped the cause. I am certainly not the only one who can't understand your thoughts about him. So maybe you could talk more about what you are thinking.

Blogger Sherlock July 05, 2019 2:53 PM  

John, a cursory exploration of Islamic theology would reveal the difficulty in identifying "true" Muslims. This does not parallel to Christianity, with its many denominations. In Islam, the theological support for violent martyrdom is just as strong as the more peaceful crowd. I don't know how you identify True Muslins over false ones...

Blogger J Melcher July 05, 2019 2:59 PM  

Even if TR is a straw man figure of the Right, he is drawing real fire from the Left. He's using up Lefty ammunition and revealing Lefty entrenched positions. Tactically that's useful. Whether or not that's worth anything strategically, in the overall battle, is a question above my pay grade.

Blogger Sam July 05, 2019 3:11 PM  

@22
And? Blacks murder lots of people but they aren't the cause of the end of the US either.

@23
It is typical leftist tactics. Attempt to take over something and tell followers that the new version that parrots left wing talking points is the true version.

The stupidity is apparent in the fact what is being attacked are the sane parts of Islam and not the bad ones. Insuring a birth rate above replacement with patriarchy, punishing those who subvert the religion, insisting their way of life is the best- these are all good things that you should be doing.

Attack Muslims for those and you'll find that leftists rapidly repurpose the tools and powers against you for doing that and Muslims are ignored. The essence of leftism is betrayal and once you give them power they will use it against those that are threats to them.

Blogger xevious2030 July 05, 2019 3:12 PM  

“You need to help people get out the anger, not remain in it forever”

Anger is largely a useless emotion, as it simmers. And the “peaceful no matter what” keeps it from transforming into an emotion that is animate beyond the most basic. Yes, it isn’t helpful. And that is one of the reasons he is not good for an overarching leadership position. That’s not the point. He’s enlisted material, not officer material. But he is enlisted material. That’s the point. People like him exist to go out and actually do something, rather than sit around pining for the fjords. And with proper direction, he could.

Blogger Jonathon Davies July 05, 2019 3:13 PM  

What's happening to Tommy could happen to us. That is the message from the British state and establishment. Endless trials, often for the same offence, jail time, mental torture, huge costs.

"Do not question the diversity, plebs, or you will be next."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2019 3:14 PM  

...because the British legal system is about protecting Vibrants, not doling out justice.
Legal systems exist to prevent vendetta, to protect criminals, to abrogate the Lynch law, to prevent actual justce

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2019 3:16 PM  

@John Best,
Islam IS the danger.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 3:18 PM  

@24 I am a High Church Anglican, we literally killed thousands of Catholics, drove the Catholic faith out of England and the persecuted the Catholics and all other religions for 300 years. I don't like the 'peaceful westernized Muslims', they are the Muslim version of false brethren. Protestantism isn't peaceful, Anglicanism wasn't peaceful. The true Muslims are the ones who force their religion on their children and anyone around them. I don't fear those Muslims, I like those Muslims and respect them. And the Muslims respect true Christians as well, but not the false brethren and Churchians. I would gladly die for God and Jesus, I would also gladly kill anyone who seeks to corrupt Christianity or enforce evil through the state. Muslims aren't a threat, the globalist state is, and the globalist state fears true Christianity and the House Societal structure. Again the Muslim threat is false.

Blogger lowercaseb July 05, 2019 3:21 PM  

He also disinvited Owen Benjamin from an event in the UK.

Hell, this makes the decision a hell of a lot easier. Owen wrote Tommy's anthem when he was at his lowest. Sorry to go blue, but to put it in the language of old Blighty...I don't support ungrateful cunts.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 3:21 PM  

@22 How many abortions has been the globalist state enforced within Britain? How many children has the globalist state ripped from their families to be sold into prostitution using Asian, African and Eastern European gangs? How did the globalist state disarm the British nations so we can't protect ourselves when Muslims attack us in the street? The Muslims attacks aren't a threat, and they are likely to be a proxy for the globalist state, just like the IRA were.

Blogger OGRE July 05, 2019 3:25 PM  

Fuzzums Wuzzums wrote:Hold on. Wasn't he arrested on the same charges then let go because he appealed? How can he be indicted on the same charges if the case was resolved?


When a case is appealed it doesn't usually resolve the case completely; far more often than not its sent back to the lower court with instructions to resolve the case in compliance with the ruling of the appellate court. This can often mean a whole new trial, or just a hearing on a particular issue. Occasionally resolution at the appellate level will result in there being no more issues to resolve, such that the case itself reaches a final determination, but thats fairly atypical. Hence, an appeals court sending a case back to the lower court is not a new case in terms of double jeopardy; its the same case still moving towards a final resolution.

Blogger D E K July 05, 2019 3:31 PM  

@lowercaseb

If I remember correctly Owen was not angry with being disinvited. TR was fresh out of prison and this was the time when Owen made nonstop jokes about Jews. Leftist media glady would have shown Owens jew hate out of context.

Blogger Stilicho July 05, 2019 3:45 PM  

In the land of blind cucks, the one-eyed neoclown is king.

Blogger Steb July 05, 2019 3:56 PM  

Farage wants nothing to do with TR, but it's always been because he wanted to use him as a marker for the 'real racists' that he was different from.
Much in the same way as he distanced himself from Le Pen. Most of it was just class, and the Brexit party are definitely the Tory Toffs in exile.

TR is definitely unreliable as a nationalist but, as a brit, I can't help but be aware of how much of his persecution is class based, whatever his positions happen to be.

Blogger Bultz July 05, 2019 4:05 PM  

Tommy Robinson is a very useful provocateur for the media & establishment. He is the boogeyman that everyone can direct their support and anger towards, but I don't understand why because he says almost nothing meaningful. He is the man who will get the people who feel left behind angry enough to riot, bringing in tougher legislation. And he is also the face of the enemy leftists and "conservative" politicians crave, so they can reference it as "tommy nationalist racism". I'm not sure how aware he is of the role he plays, nor his die hard support who have lost sight of the causes we're supposed to be fighting, but are now all wrapped up in the cult of Tommy. I will say though there's something particularly sickening in the smug response to his sentencing - his family and particularly his children are suffering immensely

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2019 4:41 PM  

@John Best,
The grandchildren of those Muslims will be converting your grandchildren at the muzzle of a gun.
Blaming all evils on the state, and refusing to see who controls the state is just foolish. If you continue to welcome the invader, eventually he will eliminate you from what he considers his home.
Ask an American Indian about it some time.

Blogger van helsing July 05, 2019 4:46 PM  

Tommy Rubinstein is playing a part. and if you read Mathis, Owen Benjamin may be doing so too.

Blogger tublecane July 05, 2019 4:50 PM  

@28- I don't know whether they could get any of us across the pond on the specific charges laid against Tommy. Because they are pretty ridiculous. A judge ordering him not to do what my local news station has a perfect right to do: film people leaving court. That would be a first amendment case here. It's not as though he was throwing tomatoes or anything.

They're making an example because white boogeyman and maybe gatekeeper/controlled opposition. But it's also about shielding Muslim crime from the light of day. They're willing to incur an awful lot of bad press locking up a man for merely reporting what's going on publicly at the courthouse.

And because I guess at this point they couldn't just let him off. He's not Jussie Smollett.

Blogger tublecane July 05, 2019 4:54 PM  

@18- Muslims aren't so big a threat...if they stay in Muslimstan. But when they come within our civilization, they are toxic. We should go full Cid on them.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 5:00 PM  

@39 Yeah that is true. The not-British population has to go back and the globalist state overthrown. You can't don't one without the other.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 5:21 PM  

@42 Why are Muslims a greater threat than Hindu's, Jews, Sikh's, Africans, Asians? The Muslims are being scapegoated by the enablers of evil who are manipulating the British state. As the Muslims actually believe in God and have respect for Jesus. I bet if we ask/told the Muslims to leave they would, try and do that with the Jews and they worm their way back in. Our nations were good until the Jews were allowed to have any influence. Again I don't fear the Muslims, they aren't a threat. The globalist state is the threat. What's the bigger threat Muslims or Usury?

Blogger Ransom Smith July 05, 2019 5:29 PM  

I bet if we ask/told the Muslims to leave they would
Ask the Spanish about that.
Or the Serbs.
Or more recently the Burmese.

Blogger English Tom July 05, 2019 5:32 PM  

@Snidely

The (((people))) who have flooded the West with Islam and the 3rd world, the (((people))) who Tommy works for, ARE the danger.

FIFY

Blogger xevious2030 July 05, 2019 5:48 PM  

John Best, Muslims have been conquering Western Civilization for around 1,200 years. They don't respect the West. They reject Jesus being God, which means they have no respect for God Jesus. But you're High Anglican, champion of Christendom, slaying all the non-Aglicans, whispering sweet nothings to the Muslims, telling us how Muslims love Jesus and God so much. A 300 year fairytail that does not match the history.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 5:56 PM  

@45 The Muslims moved vast numbers of people from India to Pakistan, as they had somewhere else to go and they didn't conquer that land, they just lived in it. If you ask/tell the not-British population to leave they will. I know because I have talked to many of them. Ironically the ones who claim they can't leave or won't leave are the false Muslims or westernized Muslims. But the true Muslims would be happy to return to their own nations.

Blogger tublecane July 05, 2019 5:57 PM  

@44- They're marginally worse than the groups you mention, besides Africans, on account of being stupider and more violent. As well as having dangerous political ideologies tied closer to their religion. The same thing that keeps them outside the control of globohomo keeps them from assimilating in any meaningful way into our culture.

Jews are of course dangerous, but that is a horse of a different color. Africans are comparable. By the mid-20th century they had gone from bondage to political tools to something like a settled life within but apart from mainstream American civilization. Then the civil rights movement happened, and it's been one big chimp-out since.

Blacks like Muslims are exploited as shock troops and poor lost puppies by the Establishment. But, you know, they exploit what's there to exploit. They do pull nonexistent threats out of thin air, but it's easier to pick up social levers that're lying around. Ready for the grabbing.

Take the Nationalist vs. Communist civil war in China around the time of the Long March. Chiang Kai Shek had the military and political advantage, and a strong desire to wipe the commies out. Hence multiple annihilation campaigns.

However, he didn't have control of the whole country, even apart from commie enclaves. And he didn't want to alienate the Russians. So he hit upon the strategy to drive commie armies into regions controlled by warlords in the hopes that they would have to call upon him for help.

Obviously, communism was a real threat. It eventually won and technically still rules China today. One can manipulate a threat without it being false.

Blogger Tanjil Bren July 05, 2019 6:05 PM  

Some years ago, after quitting Quilliam, he said that he had left the EDL and watered things down (and in fact joined Quilliam) because he had been threatened and ordered to do so, with the implication the threat came from the English domestic security apparatus (MI6 or similar).

It always struck me, were that true, why he suddenly felt safe to talk to an interviewer about it.

Blogger Ska_Boss July 05, 2019 6:07 PM  

He doesn't get my support, remember when he bailed out on Owen Benjamin at one of his events because Owen, as a comedian, said a few mean things that a few people didn't like?

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 05, 2019 6:07 PM  

"...where a large crowd of Robinson's fans turned nasty after the verdict."

Is the Old Bailey still standing?

Yes.

Not nasty enough apparently.

Gatekeeping indeed. So what do we get out of this in the end?

More wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then we go back to our jobs on Monday.

Blogger xevious2030 July 05, 2019 6:10 PM  

John, would a jamming radar in the 1960s darn near light up a boxspring bed? You sound just like some other dude.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 6:12 PM  

@47 Since the Holy League defeat the Ottomans the Muslims haven't had the strength to conquer anyone. And after the Normans and Spanish went and removed the Muslims Kingdoms from the Mediterranean and the moved to crusades the North African and Arab Muslims have been a spent force. So they Muslims are in no position to conquer the West and haven't been for centuries. The Muslims respect the west the way we respect the Muslims, if we are strong and enforce our beliefs they respect that. They don't respect globalism and they attack it directly, as we do. They do reject Jesus being God, but they do respect Jesus as a prophet and holy man. I have talked to many true Muslims and they all talk about Jesus as an important figure.

Well yeah they do love God and respect Jesus.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2019 6:40 PM  

Muslim live a demon they call God, and respect a false Jesus who has nothing to do with the real one.
They are in the middle of conquering you. They are quite open about it. Asserting they can't conwuer anyone because they havem't lately is abdurd on its face.
It's fine to burn Catholic priests calling the English back to their traditional faith, but wrong to speak badly of Muslims who are openly conwuering you.
Fake or stupid.

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 6:42 PM  

VD: "Tommy Robinson is clearly not a genuine nationalist or someone I would consider it meaningful to support."

And yet, it seems, he's the ONLY Brit who is standing up for literally thousands of raped and abused children!? (Not just girls; boys too --- no one talks of them, not even Tommy...) I've never heard the words "rape gang" pass Douglas Murray's lips. Nor ANY royal, nor ANY politician!

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 6:55 PM  

@5 VD: "He also disinvited Owen Benjamin from an event in the UK.
I don't take him seriously."

I know Owen is furiously and contempuously slamming Tommy for the disinvitation; however -- I'd ask folks to remember, Tommy is NOT a big brain like Owen and Vox: he probably knows less history than 3/4s of us here. He has a wife and young kids. He was thrown into jail -- and put into a literally deadly position in the most moslem jail in England, i.e., meaning the courts really DO want him dead! He cannot possibly afford a barrister; and if (((Rebel Media))) is going to help pay lawyers for him, and yes-of-course, also (((hold))) his leash and pull him the way (((they want))) him to go ... Can you really blame him? Did he sell out? Sure, seems like it.

What's the saying? Retreat and live to fight another day?

Owen has the protection for himself and his family, of the Constitution (sure, pretty thin protection today), of good neighbors who wont' shirk and hide when he needs backup, and of guns he can own and use. Owen has not been beaten bloody by his enemies.

Tommy? Who protects his family? Not the folks living in his apt building,t hey want him gone! Not the people in his town, they have to -- or they choose to -- keep their heads down so they, too, don't get arrested and thrown into a pit of deadly moslems.


It's great to say: fight to the death. Like Saint Breveik? HE will get out eventually. Tommy would just get killed, ho-hum, all done, the lords-and-ladies would go tsk-tsk over their morning tea. And it would be OVER for him and his family... AND the thousands of girls still at risk.

Maybe it's cause I'm female. Tilting at windmills in a WHOLLY corrupt system seems a waste of life. ABANDONING a man trying desperately to stop evil, even if partly or mostly ineffectual, doesn't seem honorable. Not an insult -- a confusion.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 7:03 PM  

@56 What has he actually done for rape and abuse victims? Other than complain about it to the British state and do some silly protests. Basically all the things the state wants you to do. He didn't create anything to actively oppose Islam or grooming, other people have done that. Plus he is Irish, not English. You can't trust the Irish if you are English.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 7:04 PM  

@55 Are you Catholic?

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 7:05 PM  

@15 "Robinson is a Jew shill."

So, WHERE-THE-HELL are the Christians supporting Tommy Robinson?! Where are the Christians providing him lawyers and protection, helping him strategize to keep him alive? Where are the CHRISTIANS providing charity to his family as he fights this battle they seem content to IGNORE!? Not their daughters, no interest?

Oh, right, you're so busy castigating Tommy for holding on to the ONE (((group))) that IS trying to keep him alive. Even the Sikhs, suffering the same atrocities, are keeping THEIR heads down. As long as the damned Muzzies keep screwing little White girls, they can protect their little brown girls. You somehow expect Tommy to be as intelligent or as 'awake-and-aware' as people who've been reading here? He's not much more than a soccer hooligan who wants to protect little girls from evil.

So. Where are the Christians? Guess they're "busy" elsewhere with other important matters and can't be BOTHERED to protect those little girls. Very brave. Very merciful. Back o' the hand to Tommy.

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 7:07 PM  

@16 "why would we support someone who is dumb? I have said it before, but the British working class can't lead or rule anything. It needs to be the middle class or Aristocracy."

And since none of THEM will -- too bad for the little girls?! Where's the SMART one standing up? Where's the middle class or aristo? Nope. Even Farage never mentions rape gangs and little British girls...

Blogger Mark Stoval July 05, 2019 7:23 PM  

@60 and @61

Avalanche,

Good posts. I agree with you all the way. Thanks for saying it so well.

~ Mark

Blogger Matrick July 05, 2019 7:46 PM  

Personally I don't think Tommy is a fraud. Yes, he's taken Jewish shekels, but his brand of non-racial, anti-islam talk is pretty common with the working class in Britain. The ruling classes genuinely hate him and fear him for his appeal with the working class and there's no doubt that he's had a tough time in prison. I have to respect him, even if I think he doesn't fully 'get it.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon July 05, 2019 7:49 PM  

@54

"Since the Holy League defeat the Ottomans the Muslims haven't had the strength to conquer anyone. "

You must be a complete and utter moron. Not only are you apparently unaware of Kosovo, but you seem to think that a group isn't a threat if it hasn't been successful lately. There are muslim insurgencies in quite a few countries, and it is by no means clear that they will fail.

Which group has a larger number of young people? Europeans, or Arabs/Pakis/Somalis? Demographics is supreme. Without young men, you cannot fight wars.

Go look at a population distribution for Europeans, and then look at one for the Arab world, or Somali, or Pakistan, or Uzbekhistan. Not all Muslim countries have high reproductive rates, but many do. Now consider that those young men can simply walk across borders and gain residency in the heart of Europe.

You'll note that a surge in young males is often a precursor to war. The Golden Horde, the French grand armee of Napoleon, etc.

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 7:50 PM  

@18 "there are no dangers from Islam. They are used as a scapegoat by the globalists state, ... Who aren't a threat, ... I like and respect true Muslims, I don't worry about them. They are a false threat."

Not YOUR daughters getting raped, passed around, sodomized, burned with cigarettes, and a few killed, so what do YOU care, eh? Disgusting.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon July 05, 2019 7:56 PM  

@56 "What has he actually done for rape and abuse victims?"

Tommy is a zionist and fake nationalist. He's careful never to point out the people who let all the foreigners into the country.

Having said that, at least he has done SOMETHING about the gang rapes. He has people talking openly about the issue, which is an improvement over denial.

At one of the recent rallies, a former police officer even admitted that there were memos sent to the various police departments, telling them that the rape of 11 year olds was not to be investigated. Why? It was a matter of 'informed consent'. Suddenly statutory rape laws don't exist, when the perps are brown.

Blogger ErotemeObelus July 05, 2019 7:57 PM  

He's very nearly as neoclownish as Jordan Peterson.

Is JP both a neocon and a socialist?

Blogger lowercaseb July 05, 2019 8:22 PM  

@35 Thanks for the correction. Looks like I need to educate myself more on the matter.

Blogger sammibandit July 05, 2019 8:26 PM  

JP is Albertan and a lifer NDP member, which is a political party in the Socialist Internationale. In a very general way neocon policy is to domestic policy as neolib policy is to foreign policy. Given JP advocates for the same things cons do in Alberta that socialists do, like scapegoating the white working class as extremist radicals, it is accurate to describe him as a neocon socialist. See trotskyites for more information.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 8:26 PM  

@65 They are my people and I love them. Tommy Robinson is Irish, they aren't his people.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 8:28 PM  

@61 you ever heard of the traditional Britain group.

Blogger VD July 05, 2019 8:30 PM  

Maybe it's cause I'm female.

You are. Which is why you shouldn't involve yourself in these discussions. Tommy doesn't have anybody else's back, so no man will have his.

Your discernment is flawed, Avalanche. And once you learn better, you'll be very angry at him and you'll realize why we didn't support him.

Blogger VD July 05, 2019 8:33 PM  

Tommy Rubinstein is playing a part. and if you read Mathis, Owen Benjamin may be doing so too.

Mathis is brilliant and intriguing, but his lack of Christianity harms his discernment.

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 8:41 PM  

@64 You do understand these isn't a 'Muslim' Empire right? That different Muslim nations aren't going to unite as one. There will and current is a war for who will be the dominant Muslim power? Turkey, Iran, Egypt and Saudi, all these men mean what, war between the Muslim power in the Levant and Arabian region. Now once there is a victor in the Muslim conflict, like Turkey, they will use their demographic, military strength to gain influence in new Christian lands. Are Muslims a threat no, is the demographic of those Muslim nations you mentioned a threat, no. Famines and war is coming to that region.

You mean when the Serbians were going to wipe out the Muslims, until the globalist state stepped in to stop them and the Muslims could do nothing about it.

Blogger sammibandit July 05, 2019 8:50 PM  

And yet, it seems, he's the ONLY Brit who is standing up for literally thousands of raped and abused children!?

Johnny Rotten and Morrissey are doing a better job with more press and less jail time. I'd throw my support their way over Tommy who worked with fleecers and grifters in the recent past. Did you catch Milo's story posted here not that long ago?

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 8:50 PM  

@27 " He’s enlisted material, not officer material. But he is enlisted material. That’s the point. People like him exist to go out and actually do something, rather than sit around pining for the fjords. And with proper direction, he could."

Yes. This! Exactly this! But there are no officers left in England it seems: They're melted into curtsies.

Blogger sammibandit July 05, 2019 9:04 PM  

Yesterday good dad Cerno stabbed the dragon between his scales without going to jail. Today bad dad Tommy showed his kids that he's got better things to do with other men.

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 9:10 PM  

@62 "Avalanche,
Good posts. I agree with you all the way. Thanks for saying it so well.
~ Mark"

Thank you, Mark. I'm furious unto tears at all the: "eh, he’s just a low-class dumbass is clinging to a (((life preserver))) in a literally deadly storm, but, eh, he was doing it wrong, and now, rather than just letting go and being DROWNED by his and OUR enemies, he's letting the effing (((enemy))) help him out. So, let him drown. He should've known, been, or done better!"


None of the "screw Tommy Robinson" guys -- in the States or in the UK -- have stood up to HELP HIM! To do the possibly more effective things all the people complaining are saying he didn't do. He's NOT educated, he's NOT middle class or aristo -- he's a dumb fellah who can't bear to see CHILDREN RAPED! He's doing what he CAN -- what are the rest of the England nation doing to protect their children?! Anyone?

Not a God-damned thing! And I chose those words because they are the exact right words! Where are the millstones to be tied to their necks?

Blogger John Best. July 05, 2019 9:12 PM  

@64 I don't know enough about the Serb Muslim conflict to comment on it as I did in my earlier post. However I do know it existed.

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 9:14 PM  

@70 "They are my people and I love them. Tommy Robinson is Irish, they aren't his people. "

So, you're doing just WHAT to protect those little girls who ARE your people? Against the NOT your people you're crawling and mewling here to protect, the ones who ARE raping, sodomizing, cutting, burning, passing around, beating, and even killing little girls of your people. Just fine with that, are you? YOUR PEOPLE! YOUR NATION!!

But, oh you love those 'true moslems.' You filthy coward!

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 9:17 PM  

@72 VD: "Your discernment is flawed, Avalanche. And once you learn better, you'll be very angry at him and you'll realize why we didn't support him."

Oh but Vox, WHO stands for those little girls?! WHO will protect them, who will STOP the abuse?! Do they just not COUNT in these men's games? I want to KILL all those abusers -- just shoot them all down in the streets like rabid dogs they are!

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 9:19 PM  

@77 "good dad Cerno stabbed the dragon between his scales without going to jail. "

Cerno is a LAWYER in a country that has the FIRST Amendment.

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 9:23 PM  

Sammi, "Tommy who worked with fleecers and grifters in the recent past"

Yes of course -- I'm NOT suggesting Tommy is the RIGHT man for this, obviously he's not. I'm saying he's apparently the ONLY one. I've never heard of the two you mention -- WHAT have they done more successfully that Tommy has done? Did they have world-wide protests when they were jailed? Were they offered asylum in another country? Did they have folks from around the world bringing the topic up with Brit officials? More press and less jail? Not more press anywhere I have seen. And what success have they had -- not 'getting press,' but making some sort of difference about the little girls?! And as for getting taken by snakes -- he's fighting for his life, and "fleecers and grifters" took advantage?

"There 'e is again: 'e ain't doin' it right..."

Blogger Avalanche July 05, 2019 9:28 PM  

That said; well, all-that written. I will take Vox at his direction and retire from the men's battlefield. Why England is not burning to the ground over this, I cannot fathom.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums July 05, 2019 9:31 PM  

Sam wrote:And? Blacks murder lots of people but they aren't the cause of the end of the US either.

You almost had it but dropped it.

John Best. wrote:@22 How many abortions has been the globalist state enforced within Britain? How many children has the globalist state ripped from their families to be sold into prostitution using Asian, African and Eastern European gangs? How did the globalist state disarm the British nations so we can't protect ourselves when Muslims attack us in the street? The Muslims attacks aren't a threat, and they are likely to be a proxy for the globalist state, just like the IRA were.

Just because threat A is greater than threat B it doesn't make threat B a non-threat or independent to threat A.

This is sleight of hand 101. The thief makes you stare at his left hand while he pickpockets you with his right. And if you stare at his right hand they will pickpocket with their left.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2019 10:14 PM  

@John Best,
You obviously prefer Muslim wogs to your fellow European Christians.
Are you married to a Muslim?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 05, 2019 11:31 PM  

Avalanche, have you ever said "Let's you and him fight"?

Blogger tublecane July 05, 2019 11:48 PM  

@73- I remember Mathis arguing C.S. Lewis must have been a spook, or promoted for spook purposes. Because apparently his books aren't good enough on their own to win him popularity. As evidence, Mathis cited Perelandra, which allegedly climaxes with a Regular Don hero fistfighting Satan.

Except there is no fight with Satan. To my recollection, Lewis' main character fights a demonically possessed man. That guy has superhuman strength and other abilities, but he's not the Lord of Darkness.

More than that, another character altogether stands in for Satan, I believe. What kind of story would have two Satans?

Considering how much ground he covers in his various essays or whatever you call them, I wouldn't make much of such mistakes. But it's possible his inability to "get" Perelandra has something to do with unChristianity.

Blogger Sargent.matrim July 05, 2019 11:49 PM  

In light of some comments above I have a question:

Is the amount of time someone is highlighted in the media either negative/positive one of the bits of evidence you use to gather whether or not they are fake?

Just seeking to learn.

I have long liked Tommy's crusade against rape gangs, but I dont know a lot about him. I know he is former EDL and I dont trust rebel media, either, after they shafted Faith Goldie.

But he seems to genuinely want his country back.

What should I look for in ascertaining the genuineness or not of these figures?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 06, 2019 12:09 AM  

@18 John Best

"@14 No he isn't, there are no dangers from Islam."

Listen up, FOOL (or is it LIAR)....

here's what your intellectual superiors had to say about Islam:


William Gladstone (1809 - 1898), "The Quran, an accursed book, so long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world."

Sir William Muir (1819-1905): "the sword of Muhammad and the Quran are the most fatal enemies of civilisation, liberty and truth which the world has ever known... an unmitigated cultural disaster parading as God's will".

Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965): "Islam is as dangerous in a man as rabies in a dog"

Winston Churchill: The religion of blood and war is face to face with that of peace. Luckily the religion of peace is usually the better armed. The Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. Propagated by the sword, and a form of madness."


Having lived 2 years of my life in Moslem-dominated lands, I can do nothing but agree with the gentlemen quoted above. They knew the truth far more than you ever will.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 06, 2019 12:14 AM  

@31

"Muslims aren't a threat, the globalist state is, and the globalist state fears true Christianity and the House Societal structure. Again the Muslim threat is false."

In the same way that a thief's pitbull isn't a threat......wait a minute..

Blogger Dirk Manly July 06, 2019 12:21 AM  

@48

"@45 The Muslims moved vast numbers of people from India to Pakistan, as they had somewhere else to go and they didn't conquer that land, they just lived in it. If you ask/tell the not-British population to leave they will. I know because I have talked to many of them."

You are either a useful idiot, or a liar.

Ever hear of Taqqiyah? Islam permits ANY liar to a non-Moslem if the lie will further the spread of Islam.

Blogger Thad Tuiol July 06, 2019 12:27 AM  

The Moslems in the West are just one of the symptoms of the (((disease))).

Blogger Ska_Boss July 06, 2019 12:57 AM  

@Avalanche, your emotions are clearly running wild here, naturally, because the well-being of children are at stake. However, what you and Tommy don't seem to know is that when you are fighting an enemy who is actively involved in looking the other way or outright covering up child abuse/human trafficking rings/grooming gangs, you have to be extremely careful how you engage because there is a double standard, the rules and the punishments for not following the rules are applied to the good guys like Tommy while the criminals get a slap on the wrist in court and end up back on the streets. The enemy looks after their own. The most effective way to combat this is to LAWFULLY and peaceably protest these types of things while also spreading the truth and awareness, Tommy broke the rules, and yeah it's bullshit but it's still a technicality that they got him on. He should consider himself lucky that he didn't end up dead like many others who don't quite understand what, and who they are fighting.

Blogger Tanjil Bren July 06, 2019 2:13 AM  

Vox's axiom is a simple one: if they are being exposed by the (leftist) media, then they serve the media's purpose.

It's a tough nut to digest sometimes, given our lifetime's training, but swallow it (and reconcile all) we must.

Blogger Tanjil Bren July 06, 2019 2:49 AM  

Declaration: I donated to Tommy R's campaign.

Why, given my comment?

He was either controlled opposition, or he had managed to work his way, through long exposure, into a position they had difficulty suppressing (because of the internet).

I honestly struggle to determine which it is, given the inconsistencies I have observed.

But...

If he's the former, then so be it and I've been conned.

But if he's the latter, then he has balls the size of Jupiter.

And I felt compelled to bet on the latter.

Blogger Tanjil Bren July 06, 2019 3:01 AM  

And that's quite apart from the cause, which was just and righteous.

Blogger Sargent.matrim July 06, 2019 3:27 AM  

An interesting point.

But I understand, though he refuses their advances, that the media seek to "expose" Vox to the at times with hit pieces and such.

He refuses to deal with them, which I agree is wise. But could some of those exposed by the left merely be just less wise good guys?

Some people are naive enough to think that journalists are unbiased.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart July 06, 2019 4:05 AM  

He also disinvited Owen Benjamin from an event in the UK.

I must have missed that. Does anybody have some useful pointers where it's recorded, so I could find out for myself?

Blogger Vaughan Williams July 06, 2019 5:38 AM  

Avalanche wrote:That said; well, all-that written. I will take Vox at his direction and retire from the men's battlefield. Why England is not burning to the ground over this, I cannot fathom.

Nikolas van Rensburg and Alois Irlmaier foresaw England more than burning to to the ground over this, and other things. Such as the rape of the Boers, and the starvation of Ireland in 1844. In a few short years, England will cease to exist. Whom the LORD loveth, he chastiseth. England's doom is well and truly established. If you don't see God chastising England, it is because it isn't relevant. You don't flog a dead horse.

Blogger rotekz July 06, 2019 5:48 AM  

Thank you Avalanche. As a man, I agree with everything you have written.

Blogger Sherlock July 06, 2019 6:43 AM  

Owen talks about it in a couple of episodes. Tommy himself acknowledges it in a speech he gave at the event.

Blogger Avalanche July 06, 2019 8:16 AM  

@87 "Avalanche, have you ever said "Let's you and him fight"?"

Never, but I HAVE called on the men of my nation to *do their duty*. I have worked to awaken the sleepers of my nation. When the flag goes up, I be as much of a 'soldier' as I can and then, it's likely I'll die in the war.

In the meantime, how about you visualize an ELEVEN-YEAR-OLD girl being raped by multiple men. Do you know an 11-yr-old girl? Have a daughter or niece? "Let's you and him fight?" Why are NONE of our nation fighting this -- except, apparently, by slurring the one guy who IS "fighting" it, however less than perfectly he does?

SURELY you wouldn't be suggesting that I am trying to incite a WRONG fight between the men of my nation and the imvaders, when the purpose is to protect our nation? At LEAST several thousand White British girls have been tortured by pakis and muzzies. Rotherham was just the tip; now that -- and oh look, seems it WAS Tommy who got -- the news out, they've found several OTHER cities where hundreds, maybe more, little White girls have been tortured and raped by pakis and muzzies. And it has NOT stopped! And all those White cops and social workers and committee folks and lawyers and charity orgs? All those "men" of my nation who have allowed it for years and are allowing it now? Just of a few minutes searching: beyond Rotherham are rape gangs in Derby, Huddersfield, Newcastle, North Wales, Oulu, Oxford, and Rochdale. Not a one-off. Here's a one-off: a grooming gang in Bristol were from a Somali background.

xx three members of a family (family name: Hussain) connected with the abuse of 61 girls had not been charged
xx Girls as young as 10 were being befriended... before being passed to older men who would rape them and become their "boyfriends".
xx 17 cases of localised grooming in 13 northern towns since 1997-14 since 2008-in which 56 men were convicted of sexual offences against girls aged 11-16.
xx ...Rochdale... Nine men were convicted of sex trafficking and other offences including rape, of whom eight were of British Pakistani origin and one was an Afghan asylum-seeker.
xx 19 men and two women were convicted in 2016 and 2017 of sexual offences

Just visualize 10-and 11-yr-old girls being raped by multiple men -- and then figure out if "you and him should fight"?

Blogger Avalanche July 06, 2019 8:33 AM  

@94 "The most effective way to combat this is to LAWFULLY and peaceably protest these types of things while also spreading the truth and awareness,"

Then you have not read up on "peaceable" protests -- and "official" investigations -- starting back as far as 2003. The raping of children is still going on! Read up on all the reports to police and complaints to various govt orgs, and even the govt investigations that the police 'lost' or hid or ignored. "Peaceably protest"? -- read of the cops arresting a FATHER trying to rescue his child from a rape den!

"Spreading the truth and awareness"? What do you think Tommy Robinson is doing?! Because NO ON ELSE IS! If Tommy hadn't rocked the boat so loudly, there would still be more coverup going on, more little girls raped...

Attempts by Rochdale Crisis Intervention Team co-ordinator for the NHS, Sara Rowbotham to alert police and authorities to "patterns of sexual abuse" were ignored. Between 2003 and 2014, Sara Rowbothan, made more than 180 attempts to alert police and social services but was told the witnesses were not reliable" Infogalatic

In March 2015, a report revealed that more than 300 children, mostly girls from the city of Oxford, could have been groomed and sexually exploited in the area. It accused the Thames Valley Police, then led by Chief Constable Sara Thornton, of disbelieving the girls and failing to act on repeated calls for help, and Oxfordshire Social Services of failing to protect them despite compelling evidence they were in danger. The report also called for research into why a significant number of perpetrators of child grooming are of "Pakistani and/or Muslim heritage". Infogalatic

Wanna see? Great picture here:
https://infogalactic.com/info/Grooming-gangs_operating_in_United_Kingdom


Yeah, let's stay peaceable and aware -- THAT'S the ticket!

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Blogger VD July 06, 2019 8:57 AM  

SURELY you wouldn't be suggesting that I am trying to incite a WRONG fight between the men of my nation and the imvaders, when the purpose is to protect our nation?

Great Britain is NOT our nation, Avalanche? Why should we care at all if their own parents and people don't?

All your shrieking about the poor British girls has no more effect on anyone here than Sally Struthers crying over poor black children starving in Africa.

If you're not going to lift a finger to stop it, why should anyone else? Do you seriously believe that typing words with lots of exclamation points is "doing something"?

Blogger xevious2030 July 06, 2019 10:18 AM  

Avalanche, let me see if there is a miscommunication. Are you saying Vox/commenters specifically must help, or are you merely expressing appreciation for what TR is doing?

As for why (an answer, not a plea) should someone care? Because it is "my" civilization not Africa is not an unacceptable response, and what is going on is wrong, whether anyone lifts a finger or not, is another. Must/should one care? No. The comments do not seem to be a plea or a call to action to specific individuals or organizations though. Could be wrong, hence the top question.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 06, 2019 10:23 AM  

Avalanche,

British men must do this themselves. We have our own issues here. I've done more than my fair share over the years here, and I continue to act. I've faced armed communists here in the streets of Texas. Have you? What have you done besides scold and boomerize?

My parents' generation is insane.

Blogger Avalanche July 06, 2019 11:09 AM  

@106 VD: "All your shrieking about the poor British girls has no more effect on anyone here than Sally Struthers crying over poor black children starving in Africa.

If you're not going to lift a finger to stop it, why should anyone else? Do you seriously believe that typing words with lots of exclamation points is "doing something"?
"

The first is -- as is not even slightly unusual with the Supreme Dark Lord -- the epiphany. Bingo. {sigh} Right between the eyes. Thank you.

I have been -- and expect I will be for a while yet -- upset by the 'Tommy is a jerk and a (((shill)))' aspect to so many messages here. And that "true moslems are my fav people on the earth" guy really succeeded in trolling me.

I did lift a finger and a credit card, and I bitterly expect my donation bought two gay slimeballs a really nice bottle of wine.


@107 xevious2030, I'm not expecting commenters here, except perhaps any Brits who are NOT true-moslem-lovers to, if not take action, then at least to notice and/or to publicize somehow or otherwise try to make their own people aware. Poor Tommy has NEVER been the right guy; but has apparently been pretty much the only guy. Brave as hell, not too smart, led by Levant wherever he wanted Tommy to go.

I suppose I cannot help but 'empathize' (identify?) with the girls being abused and having nowhere -- no ONE -- to turn to. It seems as if only the ineffectual Tommy has responded or acted, albeit with hundreds of his followers singing in the streets. Perhaps there are Brit men who are actively responding in a more effective way that never reaches fake news or alt news.


@108 STG58: No, I've not faced armed commies, and I was hugely unhappy about it but preparing and prepared to go stand at the county border when we were expecting a chimp-out from the Smollette thing to reach up this far from ATL. I discussed with a subcontractor of mine the 'measured ranging' along the exit road, from the hwy they'd come up, to the machinist's building and of what use I might be. Happily for me, the chimps stayed in their jungle, and our sundowner county didn't have to act.

I'm a 63-yr-old woman with handguns. I'm NOT going to be much use in real fighting. Would that I were 30 years younger! But I will work to end any shrieking here. And, ruefully, use many fewer exclamation points...

Blogger Tars Tarkas July 06, 2019 11:28 AM  

The British authorities fear Muslims in a way they do not fear the Brits. Tommy tells a story of how a young Muslim hit a cop in the head with a brick. A bunch of Muslims and Imams showed up at the police station and threatened nationwide rioting if the Muslims was not let go. Of course, they capitulated.

The so-called men of Britain will not defend their own tween-aged daughters from roving packs of foreign pedo rings. When their government refuses to protect those daughters they did nothing.
If Muslim girls were targeted by white men because they were Muslims and the authorities covered it up, cities across Britain would be burnt to the ground and the authorities know it.

Until the authorities fear the men of Britain, nothing is going to change. As long as they fear the much smaller Muslim population more, they will take the side of the Muslims.

Blogger sammibandit July 06, 2019 12:03 PM  

Av, you don't know much about England if you don't know who Johnny Rotten and Morrissey are or why they're relevant to English nationalism and the Anglosphere. Please, check them out, their music and their statements of protest. Morrissey speaks out against migration and how Manchester has changed, Rotten against high level pedophiles and the state media.

Tommy doesn't endear himself to the Anglosphere like they do either. No one helps him because he's a liability and a vainglorious man. I'm going to say this as delicately as I can. He's 36. He has almost 6 years in jail or doing hard labor already and is looking at almost a year more. He has small kids who need their dad around. If England is so dangerous he shouldn't be running to jail every chance he gets.

I contrasted him with Cerno because everything Cerno does revolves around teaching his daughter that her dad is strong and will protect her against evil men and their weird, witch madams. He's very hands-on with his daughter. Not the enemy. As it should be.

Tommy knew he was working with grifters and he didn't care. Look, I've donated money to bad causes too. The point is that once you learn they're bad causes you move on.

As women the last instinct we should follow is to even get close to telling other women's husbands to fight enemies seen and unseen. Even the impression of doing that is off-putting. We must never get near that. The men here are too polite to outright say that but I can tell they're close to doing that because you won't drop it. It absolutely isn't our place to goad men we aren't yoked to into following our whims. In the past this got women killed, often by women those men were actually yoked to. Women who goad men like that start blood fueds and if they do they get written about in a saga after they and their whole extended family are burned to death trapped in their homes.

Blogger damaris.tighe July 06, 2019 10:27 PM  

Tommy Robinson supporters are Brexit, anti-islam working class. They have a figurehead and nationalist passion and are building political solidarity amongst the English. These people are the last instinctive nativists in the country following a civic-nationalist figurehead. I wish them well, they are a gateway to further nationalist community building in Britain.

Blogger John Best. July 13, 2019 8:17 PM  

@85 What I am saying is the Muslims are a knife, being used by the globalist state to destroy the nations and house societal structure. The state threatens you with a knife, while it steals your wallet, phone and rapes your wife. Which is exactly what is happening. What you are doing is running around screaming he had a knife, he had a knife. I hope you see my point now.

Blogger John Best. July 13, 2019 8:19 PM  

@86 No.

Blogger John Best. July 13, 2019 8:36 PM  

@90 A woman in Carlisle was kidnapped and gang raped by 4 Muslims, I was going to deal with them myself. However I looked at the situation on a conceptual and abstract level, worked out the pattern of the globalist attempt to dominate another nation. Worked out the numbers of people in organizations involved, where they are getting the money from and how the globalists are using them. So your personal and informational views are limit, and your limited understanding will be used against you.

@92 I am neither of those things. I simply look at things on a greater level than most people. So when people say things like the Muslims are the threat, I understand that is wrong. I understand Muslims lie, everybody lies, it is to be expected. Which is why you actually get to know people on an emotional level, so you know if they are telling the truth.

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