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Tuesday, July 30, 2019

My kind of Catholic

ZhukovG perfectly expresses my perspective:
Here we are, Satan's hosts arrayed against us and we spend more time shooting at one another than at the enemy.

If any man confess that Jesus is Lord; he is my brother, my comrade. I don't care how he prays or the manner of his worship.

I only ask that he hold his place in the line of battle against the Powers and Principalities that have come against us.
Amen and a-fucking-men. Evil is aggressively attempting to erect the Tower of Babel 2.0, the Synagogue of Satan is shamelessly attempting to subvert language, nations, religions, and history itself, and yet various retards from every church and denomination prefer to engage in theological disputation rather than stand united against the god of this world under the banner of Jesus Christ.

Shut up and get thee to the battlefront.

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117 Comments:

Blogger Jack Ward July 30, 2019 11:04 AM  

Yes! Amen, and Yes again. If only we had known and started modern battle against evil in 1965!
I did not know then. And, blame myself and many others.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira July 30, 2019 11:05 AM  

And my axe!

Blogger Salt July 30, 2019 11:07 AM  

Amen.

Blogger carnaby July 30, 2019 11:09 AM  

Where else would any man want to be but under the banner of Jesus Christ. Amen to that a thousand times.

Blogger Reno Chris July 30, 2019 11:11 AM  

Catholics, protestants, orthodox and others certainly have their differences and distinctions, but we all hold so very much in common. We all hold to the Nicene creed, and we face the same enemy. We need to be fighting together.

Blogger LP2020 July 30, 2019 11:12 AM  

I love this post, Amen Z and all!

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 30, 2019 11:13 AM  

Kurgan and I go round and round every day, but he and I both look forward to being able to fight side by side in the streets against the Mussulman invader.

Blogger Whitecloak July 30, 2019 11:16 AM  

Hear hear! Agreed and agreed. We can go back to theological nitpickery and counting angels on the head of a pin -after- the Sultan at the gates has been repelled and after we deal with the traitorous post and falsely-'Christian' globalists who seek to open the gates for him, along with their long nosed allies.

Blogger doctrev July 30, 2019 11:17 AM  

Now I know how Muslims feel when terrorists detonate. Only the constant rhetorical attacks on the less "pure" religions have to be much more annoying. Let me apologize for those people on my side who insist on re-enacting the schisms of Europe.

Blogger KeaponLaffin July 30, 2019 11:17 AM  

Amen. All who fight evil are brothers. Not all Catholics like the Pope and not all Evangelical are churchians. And you don't have to do much of anything to fight. Just call out evil for what it is. It's so blatently obvious at this point. There are a lot of normals out there who will notice if you point it out just once.
Recruiting for the army of the righteous is not that hard.
They'll say nooo I don't want to hear it... but if they see... they can't unsee it.

Blogger Aeroschmidt July 30, 2019 11:21 AM  

It is the spirit of unionism (unity over truth) which has destroyed mainline protestantism and is a very present within Rome. People are afraid to rebuke sin. Unity for unities sake is fruitless.

Unity only in truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.

Blogger Nation-Deprived July 30, 2019 11:25 AM  

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Blogger Whitecloak July 30, 2019 11:27 AM  

@12 Order of operations. You work out your differences with your brother -after- the traitors and the enemies are no longer an immediate threat.

Blogger Ann July 30, 2019 11:30 AM  

Christians against Christians in WWII. Crops of crosses in German and French cemeteries. Internecine warfare weakened our civilization almost irreparably and now look at the mess we're in. Lindbergh was right. He saw it all so clearly in 1936-1941 and the press just crucified him for it. I hate them.

Blogger Father Vinnie July 30, 2019 11:31 AM  

Stg58 @comment 7. --And after you fight "the Mussulman invader" you will still have at least 50% of the populace (i.e. all the people who voted for Hillary) who will still hate you and want you to be dead.
This country ain't worth killing people for. We have essentially morphed into the land of Judah from Jeremiah's day. Collectively, this nation must be judged first before it can be rejuvenated by the Lord. For every Ilhan Omar out there you will find 57 blue-haired Susans who hate your guts and will use the law to destroy you.
What are you gonna do? Kill all of the Susans too? They were born here, and are American citizens.
Don't plan on killing people to serve a system that wants you dead, too.
Try hard to be at peace with the Lord, and to be at peace with the other dum-dums all around us. That's my plan.

Blogger camcleat July 30, 2019 11:32 AM  

Amen.

Blogger binks webelf July 30, 2019 11:35 AM  

Situation Report

Many on the general staff are compromised; the converged officer's schools are teaching confusion & evil; too many NCOs are working for the enemy; not a few of the soldiers are asleep, lazy, afraid, or stealthy traitors against the king.

Tactically & strategically, we must uphold our received things, but use them in common cause against Satan & all his works, for the enemy is at the gates, trying the walls, and not a few have slipped in. We are all we've got here below, plus some angelic support, and the overarching battle-plan and support from Our King.

People who are opposing Satan sniping at one another in such circumstances-- even delighting in the slandering & injuring of one another-- whom does this *really* serve? In my work in parishes, I've had more in common with faithful folk & clergy outside, than with many clergy & people inside the denomination. Faithful, versus converged-- or actively dark-siders.

Principles DO matter; all theology is not mere opinion; I do think squishy "Hippy Jesus" Marxist ecumenicism is a great error, but I also serve a crucified & risen Saviour who commanded:

"For he who is not against us is on our side.

For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward." [ St. Mark 9:40-41 ]

When the converged RC Archdiocese of Toronto wanted little to do with Mother Teresa when she arrived one day, she saw how things were, and simply asked "Where are the poor being served, for Jesus' sake?" Note: she did not specify "only Roman Catholic places".

That happened to be an Anglican parish near downtown, under Fr. Bob Greene, a WW2 war-vet, and a man with a heart for prisoners (weekly visits & service), the homeless (2x weekly breakfast kitchen & soup kitchen), the lost (preaching in a nearby park every Sunday after 2 awesome High Anglican worship services), running a food-bank & clothing bank, fighting abortion and helping pregnant women, and serving the nearby poor in one of Toronto's hardest neighbourhoods.

They had a lovely tea, talked about the Gospel and the work of living it, and when all was done, she even signed his visitor's guestbook. There's a lesson in there, I think.

https://www.theinterim.com/issues/pro-life/interview-with-canon-robert-greene/
The Interim-- Interview with Canon Robert Greene

Blogger Nate July 30, 2019 11:35 AM  

Amen and Amen. Welcome to the front boys. we've been praying you'd show up.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 30, 2019 11:39 AM  

Father Vinnie wrote:Try hard to be at peace with the Lord, and to be at peace with the other dum-dums all around us. That's my plan.
Enjoy the re-education camps. If you can abandon Christ quickly enough to make it to one.

Blogger Beardy Bear July 30, 2019 11:40 AM  

Deus Vult! We have no king but Christ!

"In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children."

Blogger BastionHarm July 30, 2019 11:42 AM  

Father Vinnie wrote:This country ain't worth killing people for. We have essentially morphed into the land of Judah from Jeremiah's day. Collectively, this nation must be judged first before it can be rejuvenated by the Lord. For every Ilhan Omar out there you will find 57 blue-haired Susans who hate your guts and will use the law to destroy you.

What are you gonna do? Kill all of the Susans too? They were born here, and are American citizens.



^ Amen to this...

Blogger VD July 30, 2019 11:45 AM  

Can’t relate to this mindset.

Then leave. Go quibble about theological details with someone else. You're useless at best, so at least stay out of the way meditating in a monastery or something.

Blogger VD July 30, 2019 11:48 AM  

This country ain't worth killing people for.

Who said anything about the country. If you are going to submit to Satandom, that's your problem.

They were born here, and are American citizens.

We don't care about geography or paperwork.

Blogger J.D Moe July 30, 2019 11:51 AM  

Agreed. Any advice in talking with Jehovah’s Witness? I have been talking with one and he doesn’t believe Jesus is Lord.

Blogger Beardy Bear July 30, 2019 11:54 AM  

Nation-Deprived wrote: ...If for instance, one believes that accepting the falsehoods of Catholicism brings a higher probability of going to hell than heaven, they would be compelled to condemn it strongly.

What is the probability that Christ counts you as a friend if you let Satan Reign because of a couple doctrinal differences?

Heaven is not the solution to a math equation.

Blogger Republican Mother July 30, 2019 11:58 AM  

@24 I have been following a former Jehovah Witness who has a lot of persepctive on this subject: https://youtu.be/1XRtw8MODQc

I hope this is helpful.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 30, 2019 11:59 AM  

"Father" Vinnie

Thanks for picking a side early and publicly.

Blogger lazarus long July 30, 2019 12:04 PM  

Here is life, or here is dying; only sin is lack of trying

Blogger Nation-Deprived July 30, 2019 12:06 PM  

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Blogger WordsFromTheCrucible July 30, 2019 12:11 PM  

When we fight the right battles, God teaches us whatever it is we actually need to understand. Obedience and action in a man's walk with God helps to filter truth from falshood like no squabble of words ever could.

When you wrestle in close quaters with the enemy of your soul, you realize that you do not possess the strength within yourself to defeat him, and it changes your approach to battle. There is no power but that in the Name of Jesus Christ by which we can overcome this world of iniquity.

Blogger LAZ July 30, 2019 12:16 PM  

"Try hard to be at peace with the Lord, and to be at peace with the other dum-dums all around us. That's my plan." Yeah, that's worked good so far.

Blogger Miguel July 30, 2019 12:18 PM  

Come on, Vox. First we need to know:
1. Sprinkle or immerse?
2. Pre-trib or post-.trib?
3. Wine, water or coca-cola?
4. 66 or 73?

In this time of war, THIS is that really matters!

Blogger VD July 30, 2019 12:19 PM  

I view the spreading of false doctrines as letting Satan reign, in the same manner I also believe globalism let’s Satan reign. Different battles, different battlegrounds.

You've already made it clear you're not with us. So be it. Now go away.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction July 30, 2019 12:19 PM  

@ 15

It's called Deus Vult. Plant the damned seed even though it will only be your grand children who will sit in the shade.

Blogger doctrev July 30, 2019 12:20 PM  

VD wrote:
We don't care about geography or paperwork.




Do you personally care about effort to adopt American values and defend Americans?

Blogger pyrrhus July 30, 2019 12:22 PM  

@15 So if someone was born here and is an American citizen, you won't interfere with their evildoing.....especially if the "law" protects that evil..
Quite some set of principles you have there...

Blogger Solon July 30, 2019 12:23 PM  

Then he isn't a Christian. Accepting Jesus as the Messiah and the Son of God, the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings, is literally the first step to being Christian. This is why the term "Judeo-Christian" is such a ridiculous contradiction.

Your Jehovah's Witness is... Something. But certainly not Christian. Not even a bad Christian, just straight up not a Christian.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction July 30, 2019 12:27 PM  

@35

Vox made it clear that it isn't up to him. The nation will accept whom it chooses to accept.

Blogger basementhomebrewer July 30, 2019 12:32 PM  

I view the spreading of false doctrines as letting Satan reign

How about we deal with the stick you in the eye obvious ones before moving on to the debatable ones. Islam, Atheism, Globalism, and Churchianity that pushes the gay agenda and the destruction of nations are obviously evil targets. Let's hit those first, then worry about the quibbles in doctrine. I am saying this as a Baptist. I find more common ground with your average, God fearing, Catholic family than with a Churchian, a Sodomite, an Atheist, a Muslim or a Jew. Those others are openly hostile towards Christ, have been gaining ground for over a hundred years and dominate the culture. The Catholic family down the street with 6 kids is not controlling the culture. They may be mistaken in their doctrine but I believe they are making an honest attempt to glorify and honor Christ unlike the other parties.

Blogger Felix Bellator July 30, 2019 12:35 PM  

@doctrev, "Do you personally care about effort to adopt American values and defend Americans?"

Yes. Now, who are these Americans you are taking about? I don't think you understood what the SDL meant by "geography and paperwork."

Blogger Argus Bacchus July 30, 2019 12:37 PM  

Yes. Yes.

A Thousand Times, Yes.


Free your mind and your ass will follow.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 30, 2019 12:39 PM  

but why can’t we simultaneously pursue spiritually sound doctrine and call out false manmade teachings?

Because there are only so many hours in the day. You don't have to agree with wrong doctrines, but you can refrain from spergtastically jumping on every opportunity to attack your allies who hold them.

Blogger Sheila4g July 30, 2019 12:41 PM  

Amen. I am not a catholic (as a fairly classical Anglican I am homeless) but a song I've added to my playlist speaks to the muscular Christian spirit. Perhaps not as well known a "Winged Hussars, but another equally good Sabaton creation: The Last Stand"

Blogger Whitecloak July 30, 2019 12:44 PM  

@39 Thank you. I was trying to think up something to say about that and you nailed it. Our minor doctrinal differences matter far less than the war against the Enemy. I've more in common with a God-fearing Baptist, a trad Catholic, or the rare old school Anglican than I could ever have with a same-denom globohomo Babylonian any day of the week.

One's view on predestination or the need for Church hierarchy and magisterium says far less about the Lord you serve than if you celebrate the rainbow flag or the erasure of organic nations to erect a new Tower of Babel.

Blogger sammibandit July 30, 2019 12:51 PM  

Amen ZhukovG and Whitecloak as well. All spiritual battles are physical but not all physical battles are spiritual.

Blogger Nation-Deprived July 30, 2019 12:51 PM  

I am with you, I deleted the comments. Hope that squares things.

Blogger Welleran July 30, 2019 12:51 PM  

Christ distinguishes between the true faithful and those who do works in His name but are not of Him. Calling for an erosion of this discernment for the sake of ecumenism is not of Christ. Should we be standing side by side with Judaizers and Gnostics next?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 30, 2019 12:51 PM  

You are following Jesus Christ, or you aren't. Either way, denomination doesn't really matter.

Blogger newguy40 July 30, 2019 12:54 PM  

As a long time lurker who is also a Roman Catholic, I appreciate your call to battle and happily put aside differences with my non Catholic brothers.

As a great non Catholic said, "we can all hang together or we can all hang seperately" IMO that is were we are now.

Blogger doctrev July 30, 2019 12:55 PM  

Felix Bellator wrote:
Yes. Now, who are these Americans you are taking about? I don't think you understood what the SDL meant by "geography and paperwork."


Americans mean anyone with American blood, who hold to the Christian Republican principles of the Founders and who has a history of family living in America. I have zero desire to supplant the native population, by which I mean the Founder's posterity.

Maybe you won't need help from guests, but given how many Heritage Americans want you dead along with the very large number of people who are permanent foreigners I don't think it would hurt. I don't want to lead the parade, but I know what I'll be doing either way, and I'm not asking for advice. Just a clarification.

Blogger DangerSemiconductor July 30, 2019 1:02 PM  

Ann wrote:Christians against Christians in WWII. Crops of crosses in German and French cemeteries. Internecine warfare weakened our civilization almost irreparably and now look at the mess we're in. Lindbergh was right. He saw it all so clearly in 1936-1941 and the press just crucified him for it. I hate them.

... the (((press))) just crucified him for it.

Blogger The CronoLink July 30, 2019 1:02 PM  

Amen

Blogger OvergrownHobbit July 30, 2019 1:04 PM  

@15 "Blue-haired Susans ... They were born here. They are American citizens."

And posterity Americans. Like Nathaniel Hawthorne (see The Scarlet Letter). Or Lucretia Mott. Even if we could wave a magic wand and reset all the races, yeah even unto the hat-size-challenged, we'd still have women. And their enablers. "Blue-haired *Susan* is spot on.

But it doesn't matter. The battle isn't for America, which was never a nation (those were the several States) but a state. A good one, based on a great idea, but it only worked at all because "then a miracle occurred."

In the war for Christendom, for the Christian nations, Vox is right.

Jesus is Lord. Amen.

Blogger Elijah July 30, 2019 1:05 PM  

the baptist family down the block that helps me after hurricanes and the Dad that goes with me to the gun range is my brother. as a catholic, i think he is mistaken in some of his doctrinal beliefs but i will cover his back when the shooting starts.

Blogger Nate July 30, 2019 1:07 PM  

"but why can’t we simultaneously pursue spiritually sound doctrine and call out false manmade teachings? "

Peter vs Paul. The internal vs the external.

Focus on your own house and let others worry about theirs. I am certain that whatever church you belong to has plenty of heresy and plenty of problems for you to focus on without adopting the problems other denominations are facing.

Its time to be more Peter and less Paul.

Blogger Raker_T July 30, 2019 1:11 PM  

@45 "All spiritual battles are physical but not all physical battles are spiritual." I love it!! A really succinct saying is always good, but even better if it's the subject I've been contemplating.
As for fighting evil, you guys know that I think we went shipwreck because Christ left us as a country. If so, it stands to reason that we need to specifically address physical decisions and departures in order to get Christ helping us. But I'll spare you the details, that's Raker broken record.
What's not broken record are the changes I've been making in the physical realm, and the plans I'm undertaking. It's far from abstract at this point, quite physical, but enough blah-blah. Situation report last week of August.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 30, 2019 1:20 PM  

Nate wrote: ...

Focus on your own house and let others worry about theirs. I am certain that whatever church you belong to has plenty of heresy and plenty of problems for you to focus on without adopting the problems other denominations are facing.

Its time to be more Peter and less Paul.


Amen. I was born again as a Baptist. I was married as a Methodist. I am now a long time Catholic. In all those different places and groups, we worshiped Jesus Christ.

Now I find that the RC Church has a lot of problems. Far too many SJWs. Far too many homosexual priests. Far too many other problems as well.

Clean your own house as best you can says Nate. I will do what I can Nate.

Blogger Skyler the Weird July 30, 2019 1:22 PM  

When you turn your back on the Lord, don't be surprised to have Philistines , Moabites, and Edomites taking over your city and making off with your crops, wives,and daughters.

Blogger Raker_T July 30, 2019 1:24 PM  

As far as wanting a bunch of people dead goes . . .no. My world is very physical, I'm always looking ahead to the implementation of allegedly brilliant ideas. As for this separation of people, I'm all for it, man, damn I am so tired of living with these people.
But far easier to have them walk out on their own. Corpses, bio hazards, chaos, man, let's try to work around that stuff. Has anyone contemplated real estate prices. That is, if they leave now, and in an incremental way, they would get much better prices for their RE than in a market flooded with homes of the departing. Could be an incentive? I realize this has serious problems, but I haven't heard anything specific regarding separation.

Blogger Joe Smith July 30, 2019 1:25 PM  

And besides, Catholics have to defend Francis. They are already experiencing the side effects of absolute divine simplicity coming home to roost. I don't have to add to that. If they are simultaneously willing to fight the good fight, then I'm down to let them be while they do it.

Blogger pdwalker July 30, 2019 1:31 PM  

Amen. i’d rather serve in Christendom than rule in hell.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz July 30, 2019 1:34 PM  

@Joe Smith
Francis is not a catholic. Therefore he is not the Pope. I do not need to defend him. Benedict is the Pope.

Blogger FP July 30, 2019 1:36 PM  

Thanks for the laugh this morning Father Vinnie.

"What are you gonna do? Kill all of the Susans too? They were born here, and are American citizens."

Forgive me padre if I care not for those that would make me pay for the drag queen story hour strip shows for 6 year olds in between their abortions, drunken one night stands and chemically castrating their own children because they're supposedly transgender.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 30, 2019 1:38 PM  

Amen.

Reading the comments is a reminder how truth is a revealer.

Blogger James Dixon July 30, 2019 1:38 PM  

> you will still have at least 50% of the populace (i.e. all the people who voted for Hillary) who will still hate you and want you to be dead.

What part of "most people are idiots" escaped you?

It's way less than the 50% who voted for Hillary. Most of them are simple dupes who voted the party line. The ones who want us dead are probably less than 20% of their party.

> This country ain't worth killing people for.

My people are.

> What are you gonna do? Kill all of the Susans too?

As I said in response to a similar post on Gab recently: You don't really expect me to answer that question in a public forum, do you?

> They were born here, and are American citizens.

If America is a proposition nation, as you would probably claim, then no, they're not.

> We need to be fighting together.

The faithful will be. Those currently running the denominations? Maybe not.

> Enjoy the re-education camps. If you can abandon Christ quickly enough to make it to one.

Yep. The time is coming. It may not be for another 50 years, and it could still be averted, but all signs are that the persecutions are on their way.

Blogger Steve Canyon July 30, 2019 1:42 PM  

Are these blue haired freaks not instruments of satan?

Mussulmen have no monopoly on membership in service to the dark prince.

And has a strategy of appeasement worked? History proves to the contrary. The nuisance few as desctibed in Skin in the Game depends on such strategies to enable the success they fervently desire

Blogger HoosierHillbilly July 30, 2019 1:45 PM  

Damn right. When we have a roughly similar distribution of religions present in our nation as 17th century Europe, we can continue our little spat. Until then, pass the ammo brother.

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Blogger justaguy July 30, 2019 1:51 PM  

I will treat all brothers as brothers, but most Churchians agree that" Christ is Lord" too, while stabbing/shooting you in the back just to get mentioned by the NYT. With guys like David French and others, I think being careful who is behind you is important. I don't know if they will realize what they are doing, but until it becomes an obvious us versus them, too many "Christians" who are not nationalist still see you point at you and screeee!

Blogger Mr. Roshi July 30, 2019 1:57 PM  

i've been over zealous as I've rekindled my faith and accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior, as I found my way back to my Catholic roots. It was the wickedness of the world that pushed me back towards God, but we must stand together against the evils. no more being retarded for me (i pray,) a house divided can not stand.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 30, 2019 1:58 PM  

Ephesians 6:
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God

Blogger John Best. July 30, 2019 2:00 PM  

The satans also try to do everything they can to divide us. Like forcing the narrative that the troubles were about Protestant vs Catholic, when you look into it the Protestants and Catholics were working together and the satanists were always trying to get them to fight each other.

Blogger FUBARwest July 30, 2019 2:00 PM  

Amen and Amen

Blogger Matthew July 30, 2019 2:05 PM  

This is a great post! I was just beginning about to feel very gloomy about doctrinal differences due to some personal squabbles I have had lately. I can always count on Vox to have the proper prespective to snap me out of despair, ZhukovG's words should be sent to all churches everywhere.

Blogger xevious2030 July 30, 2019 2:14 PM  

Jesus provides answer to this, these two witnesses given in scripture. It’s pretty clear. Pretty much "Shut up and get thee to the battlefront."

Mark 9:38 And John answered him, saying , Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

Luke 9: 49 And John answered and said , Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 30, 2019 2:15 PM  

https://hareiani.com/2017/07/17/how-the-gedolim-lost-my-faith/

this seems relevant to various essays posted here.

Blogger stevev July 30, 2019 2:26 PM  

If I am not for Jesus, who, of the Host will be for me? (No apologies to Hillel)

Blogger RandyJJ July 30, 2019 2:26 PM  

The idea that "embracing Jesus as Lord" is all that is required to be a part of the Body of Christ is a fundamentally Protestant doctrine and there's no particular reason to expect Orthodox/Catholics to share it (though I recognize that many of them do). It's not a question of sniping at their own side. Protestants are quite literally not on their side--they are just one more heresy that Satan uses to destroy Christianity.

I'd be willing to overlook any number of other differences, but due to this one issue, I take my Orthodox/Catholics on a case by case basis.

Blogger cecilhenry July 30, 2019 2:46 PM  

Fight North to South guys, not East to West.


Leave the gossip for the women.


"I appeal to you, dear brothers and sisters, by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, to live in harmony with each other. Let there be no divisions in the church.

Rather, be of one mind, united in thought and purpose."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 30, 2019 3:05 PM  

See, the thing is, all you purists, salvation is not dependent on theology. Having the right theology will not save you. Satan has an absolute knowledge of God far greater than any living human.

So get off your damn high horse and understand the terrible truth: that awful {denomination_member} who believes {heresy} is no less likely to have fed Him when He was hungry, and sheltered Him when He was persecuted than you are.

Blogger Rhology July 30, 2019 3:07 PM  

Galatians 1:6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

Blogger HouellebecqGurl July 30, 2019 3:12 PM  

I see nothing wrong with dispatching feral, rabid dogs.

Blogger Dyspeptic July 30, 2019 3:14 PM  

"Synagogue of Satan"

That is a truly awesome phrase.

Blogger SidVic July 30, 2019 3:17 PM  

I traveled in right-to-life circles in college. Gained enormous respect for the Catholics. At least they showed up for the fight unlike some of my more closely theologically aligned protestant brothers. Will admit that the new pope and the sex scandals have made me wince sympathetically. Also seems as if the catholic church provided some push back against the worst jewish inclinations in the distant past. They don't seem to be so much as a stumbling block in more modern times.

Blogger ZhukovG July 30, 2019 4:16 PM  

@RandyJJ: "Jesus is Lord", is possibly one of the oldest professions of faith in the church. It is not a Protestant invention; it is merely Christian.

If you are Catholic or Orthodox, you aught to know that.

Blogger sammibandit July 30, 2019 4:32 PM  

People might be surprised to learn Lutherans celebrate the Saints.

Blogger Silent Draco July 30, 2019 4:53 PM  

Satan: encouraging with whispers the shout of "MEEE is the right way!" since 34 A.D.

Unbelievers first, and use the blessed ammunition for those possessed or ruled by demons.

Schism and heresy much later, once we can articulate what we really mean.

Blogger LP2020 July 30, 2019 4:59 PM  

79 Leave it to the henhouse. Or those who needs content (internet drama) or have a petty pointless beef with someone online. It gets old fast to the point of cringe.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon July 30, 2019 5:59 PM  

@84

"Also seems as if the catholic church provided some push back against the worst jewish inclinations in the distant past. They don't seem to be so much as a stumbling block in more modern times."

Yes, I've seen a few people claim that Catholics were the ones keeping obscenity out of movies, not the WASPs. E Michael Jones talks about this at length in various places.

Two things happened: (1) Vatican II, (2) flooding Catholic areas with vibrant blacks, in order to break up Catholic communities and destroy their ability to organize.

Blogger English Tom July 30, 2019 6:03 PM  

Kill them all. Cleanse the land of their leftist satanic filth.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 July 30, 2019 6:03 PM  

I don't worship Jesus, but neither do I denigrate Him, and I'd much prefer to live in a Christian theocracy than in a world run by Progs. Preferably a Christian republic, but I'll take a theocratic republic if that's what's on the menu.

Is that good enough?

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 July 30, 2019 6:06 PM  

Because in all seriousness, seeing Progs defending [b]child drag queens[/b] has convinced me that they are Satanic.

Blogger Crush Limbraw July 30, 2019 6:18 PM  

"A man is known by his fruits";
"He who is not with Me is against me";

So what is 'with Me'?
The marching orders are at Matt. 28:18-20 - we are His soldiers
So git'er done!
If your theology excuses you from any responsibility - you are against Jesus and His marching orders!

Blogger Dave Dave July 30, 2019 6:32 PM  

You can contrast Catholicism and Orthodoxy and Protestantism by their differences to see where we're divided, or you can compare what they agree upon, which shows us what matters most.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume July 30, 2019 7:38 PM  

Jesus Christ is my lord and savior. I will fight for him and Christendom. To the death.

Deus Vult, and Amen to ZhukovG and Vox.

And isn't it funny how professions of faith and intent really bring the Wormtonues and the Wormwoods out of the woodwork?

Blogger Sargent.matrim July 30, 2019 7:52 PM  

Could you do a Darkstream on Russell Moore, I would like to hear more about what you think on the matter. I agree there's true believers and false believers in every church and denomination. As a Baptist, what you said about Moore intrigues me. Because I know people who lift him up a lot.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 30, 2019 8:17 PM  

And Albert Mohler

Blogger basementhomebrewer July 30, 2019 8:30 PM  

I will treat all brothers as brothers, but most Churchians agree that" Christ is Lord" too, while stabbing/shooting you in the back just to get mentioned by the NYT. With guys like David French and others, I think being careful who is behind you is important. I don't know if they will realize what they are doing, but until it becomes an obvious us versus them, too many "Christians" who are not nationalist still see you point at you and screeee!


As someone else already noted "by their fruits you will know them" and as Nate noted, every denomination has problem members. They are generally not hard to pick out. There are those who have true faith in Christ. There are those that use the Church purely as a social organization. Worst of all, there are those who use it to push their own agendas.

Blogger Dave Dave July 30, 2019 8:46 PM  

@95. It's comparable to pharisaic optics. They want people to see them as the most ideologically pure so they can have their street cred and fancy pants. The fake outrage in the Youtuben comments is a big red flag against all "One True Church" losers. You see it with Catholics, with Lutherans, with the Orthodoxy, with the thousands of Sola Scriptura Protestant sects. It's safe to say that your church is not the "One True Church". The assumption that there is such a thing as the "One True Church" in the first place sounds very pharisaic, and thus Jewish.

Blogger jwshell July 30, 2019 9:08 PM  

"we are Christians only, but not the only Christians" (Alexander Campbell)

Blogger jarheadljh July 30, 2019 9:09 PM  

Dave Dave wrote:You can contrast Catholicism and Orthodoxy and Protestantism by their differences to see where we're divided, or you can compare what they agree upon, which shows us what matters most.

Coming from an American Protestant background, the truth is that we all started being able to get along when the Catholics lost the ability to have us legally set on fire for disagreeing with them(or tortured/whatever).

There's all kinds of things the ROMAN Catholic church features that are just heretical institutionalized holdovers from the Sol Invictus/pre-Constantine era, goddess/fertility-cult worship, blah, blah, but then have you ever tried to talk to a 5-point Calvinist? Or perhaps maybe listened to a 7th Day Adventist sew their persecution complex into their doctrine on Revelation? Or listened to a Southern Baptist twist any sense to reality out the window to swear up and down that Yeshua miraculously made non-alcoholic grape juice? The truth about the whole thing is that WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S RIGHT and we're all just winging it.

And right now I think that we can all agree on a few things...1) Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. 2) The progressives stand against all that Christians stand for, including handing the world over to any brown non-Christian available in order to kill us. 3) So, yeah, how about we put a pin in the infighting until Christendom is a thing again?

Blogger stephen cooper July 30, 2019 9:28 PM  

Pray a lot.

Work hard for those you love, be brave for those you love, but remember that WITHOUT PRAYER YOU ARE JUST A USELESS MAN OR A USELESS WOMAN.


The intercession of Elijah and Enoch, and before them, of Melchizedek, is helpful, as is the intercession of Seth, the child of Adam and Eve who, unlike the evildoer Cain and the childless-in-this-world, but glorious in Heaven, Abel (the first human to be mentioned in the Bible in an entirely positive way - or at least whose story is told in the Holy Book with no mention of any sins he may have committed, and that is a wonderful thing), was blessed to have descendants, and as is the intercession of Adam and Eve themselves. It is useful to have a long memory of those who came before us and who cared about pleasing God and who were favored by God with might and power for goodness.

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators July 30, 2019 10:47 PM  

@jarheadljh how did you quote like that

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 30, 2019 11:39 PM  

jarheadljh wrote:Coming from an American Protestant background, the truth is that we all started being able to get along when the Catholics lost the ability to have us legally set on fire for disagreeing with them(or tortured/whatever).


American Catholics have never had the power or authority to torture or execute Protestants.
If you want to bring on the 30-years war again, this is exactly how you do it, retard.

Blogger Anne July 31, 2019 12:09 AM  

BalancedTryteOperators wrote:@jarheadljh how did you quote like that
I think you click the number of the comment you want and then cut and paste. If your comment is quoted like you mean, then I'm right.

Blogger RandyJJ July 31, 2019 12:54 AM  

@85 @RandyJJ: "Jesus is Lord", is possibly one of the oldest professions of faith in the church. It is not a Protestant invention; it is merely Christian.

If you are Catholic or Orthodox, you aught to know that.

I didn't say it was a Protestant invention. It's straight out of the Bible, so yes, it's been around a while. I said that it is a Protestant idea that embracing Jesus as Lord is, in and of itself, sufficient to make one part of the Body of Christ.

Orthodox/Catholics believe that the "Church" is the physical church founded by Christ (at least in part--there's a physical and spiritual side of things). The Church is the Body of Christ. If you're not part of the Church, you're not part of the Body of Christ.

This is a view that has had some pretty prominent adherents, so while I'm not in a position to say that it was ever the official position of either the Orthodox or Catholic churches, it was definitely acceptable, theologically speaking. It wasn't until after the Protestants came on the scene that you had a major player in Christianity say definitely that belief and submission to Jesus was all that was necessary to be a member of the Body of Christ. Good heavens, you've had Catholics argue on this blog that if you aren't part of the Catholic Church, then you're not a Christian.

Ergo, the idea that "embracing Jesus as Lord" is all that is required to be a part of the Body of Christ is a fundamentally Protestant doctrine that Orthodox/Catholics may or may not agree with.

Blogger SouthRon July 31, 2019 12:55 AM  

It’s good to see so many old names in the comments here. As I’ve grown older I’ve grown less certain of many things I used to “know” to be true about God, The Bible and Salvation. I see too many like Owen and now Roosh whose beliefs differ greatly from my own, but it is hard to deny that God is working in their lives and using them in the lives of others to advance his kingdom even more than he is using me.

Forward brothers in arms. Let us fight this day for he who called us to his son. Onward to his cause. United against the dark and evil of this world. May we hold fast to he who is our Lord and may the hope of our calling and salvation prove true.

Blogger cyrus83 July 31, 2019 12:57 AM  

Useful to remember that for North Africa and the Middle East, the answer to who won the Christian theological debates of the 4th through 7th centuries is the Muslims. There isn't sense in arguing with each other while the West is burning to the ground.

From inside the Catholic ruins, it would in any case be more fruitful to march on many a local chancery with pitchforks, torches, and an exorcist or two to convert the mitered sepulchers and their minions within than to aim to convert the local Protestants. An awful lot of destruction has come about because we didn't take care of the bad bishops, bad priests, and bad theologians running the show these last 60 years.

Blogger Toby Temple July 31, 2019 3:55 AM  

It's like gun enthusiasts yapping about what guns we all should be using. Then on this side, gun-control advocates.

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators July 31, 2019 4:17 AM  

Anne wrote:I think you click the number of the comment you want and then cut and paste. If your comment is quoted like you mean, then I'm right.

Let's see if I get the line to the left.

Blogger Andrew F July 31, 2019 9:47 AM  

https://infogalactic.com/info/National_Legion_of_Decency My understanding is that it started out good and then became converged in the 1960s.

Blogger Lazzaloveman July 31, 2019 10:14 AM  

Und wenn die Welt an uns zerbricht
Dann werden wir in Flammen stehen
Über den Horizont hinaus
und über alle Grenzen gehen
Und wenn der Rest zu Kreuze kriecht
Werd'n wir noch wissen wo wir stehen
Vier wie Brüder
Unsere Lieder
Euer Halt

Blogger Bear Of Logos July 31, 2019 5:13 PM  

anyone who denies salvation through faith is as good of an enemy as a jew or muslim to me. I stand with God in the end.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 31, 2019 5:25 PM  

ArthurTintagel wrote:anyone who denies salvation through faith is as good of an enemy as a jew or muslim to me. I stand with God in the end.
The re-education camps will teach you how to better co-operate, comrade.

Blogger Thad Tuiol August 01, 2019 1:02 AM  

Deus Vult! Nos regem non habemus nisi Christus!

(We have no king but Christ!)

Blogger PG August 01, 2019 5:20 AM  

I'm a very science minded person, and most would expect me to fight under the atheist banner, or perhaps a libertarian, or maybe Anarcho something flag. I enjoy informing them that I will, as my family always has, fight under the Christian banner, that's right I'll be with those often referred to in the science world as religitards. After all it will take more than the scientific method to get us out of this one, and pls libertarians, like herding cats.

I absolutely agree that all Christians must go forward into battle as one, argue semantics after we win.

Blogger Bear Of Logos August 01, 2019 10:10 PM  

@114 funny, my grandpa did just fine keeping his faith while living under the USSR for thirty years.

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