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Tuesday, July 16, 2019

The party of open borders

Hey, America is just an idea held by immigrants, right? How are "borders" even relevant these days? They're just an arbitrary line on a map, right? They don't even exist!
Elizabeth Warren has an immigration plan. Here are the highlights:
  • Decriminalizes unauthorized immigration and returns to the civil enforcement we had before George Bush began Operation Streamline.
  • Eliminates abusive immigration enforcement and keeps law enforcement at arms length from CBP and ICE.
  • Reduces and reforms immigrant detention.
  • Reforms immigration courts.
  • Raises the refugee cap to 125,000 and affirms refugee protections.
  • Reforms legal immigration and creates a path to citizenship.
This is a curious plan. As near as I can tell, it recommends no actions to improve border law enforcement in any way. There’s nothing about either a wall or a “virtual wall.” There’s nothing about E-Verify. There’s nothing about “smarter” or “more efficient” enforcement. No one will ever be deported—except, presumably, for serious felons, though Warren doesn’t even say that explicitly. Expedited removal will be ended. The Border Patrol will be reshaped from “top to bottom,” and will focus their efforts on “homeland security efforts like screening cargo, identifying counterfeit goods, and preventing smuggling and trafficking.” The whole thing is very similar to Julian Castro’s plan.

I have previously criticized Republicans who accused liberals of wanting “open borders.” President Trump tweets about this endlessly. But I have to admit that it’s hard to see much daylight between Warren’s plan and de facto open borders.
The Trumpslide cometh.

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53 Comments:

Blogger wahr01 July 16, 2019 8:07 AM  

It's time for Media Matters and Sleeping Giants to ramp up their campaign against far-right rags like *checks notes* Mother Jones.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia July 16, 2019 8:28 AM  

Yep, Warren's plan is an open borders plan. And you know she means it, because schoolmarmish certitude is here calling card.

In the next Dem debate, the knives are going to be out for Biden. He has to be taken out for any of the others to have a shot. Should they succeed in marginalizing him, wounding him irreparably, the race comes down to Warren or Harris.

If either one of those is the nominee, it will be a Trumpslide of Biblical proportions.

Blogger Longtime Lurker July 16, 2019 8:28 AM  

Roger Stone, you can take off the Elizabeth Warren skinsuit. We know it's you!

Blogger Rick July 16, 2019 8:34 AM  

Pocahontas?
If only the American Indians had secured their borders.

Blogger M. Bibliophile July 16, 2019 8:37 AM  

When you've lost Mother Jones...

Blogger Rick July 16, 2019 8:43 AM  

If Somalia has a wall, it’s not to keep the huddled masses out.

Blogger Gettimothy July 16, 2019 8:46 AM  

"Am I missing something here? Does Warren’s plan explicitly make it vanishingly unlikely that anyone crossing our border will ever be caught and sent back?"

Yes. You missed Nancy Pelosi's press conference.


"while explaining why she will not allow congress to debate, change or modify U.S. immigration laws, Pelosi outlines how the United States is part of a global society, without borders and without any sovereign right to impede the “human society” from entering our nation. Therefore, according to her outlook and worldview, U.S. politicians have no right to stop any migration movement."




https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/07/11/pelosi-rejects-u-s-sovereignty-u-s-immigration-subject-to-laws-of-a-global-society/

Blogger Matt July 16, 2019 8:48 AM  

Especially if he keeps this up:

"Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!" - DJT

Blogger Quadko July 16, 2019 8:50 AM  

And helps their other dream, no border to stop armies they control from traipsing around and adventuring.

Blogger CarpeOro July 16, 2019 9:02 AM  

Makes you wonder when even a writer for Mother Jones takes the blunt out of his mouth long enough to notice the emperor has no clothes. Not talking TGE, a more generalized form for TPTB. Maybe some of the center will recall what it means to rebel against obvious wizardry. Won't take all that much at this point.

Blogger binks webelf July 16, 2019 9:14 AM  

Having skin is unfair to all those organisms which only want a chance to benefit from your corporeal existence. The same with the bigoted immune system.

To be truly open, borderless, and fair, we must flay everyone, and administer anti-white-cell chemo, to have open body-borders to all comers. What could possibly go wrong?

I think the analogy holds up.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 16, 2019 9:15 AM  

Thiel according to zerohedge says Warren is the most dangerous because she is talking about the economy which is code speak for bribing the "moderates."

I'd agree it's a good strategy for her, the moderates I know just love to cost free virtue signal, but on the other hand if virtue signaling to a D-party faction cost them a cent they would want that faction machine gunned, typical womanish thinking.

Blogger Brett baker July 16, 2019 9:24 AM  

Well, she DID say working men need higher wages...... so women could stay home and raise the children. The misogynist old bitch!

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 16, 2019 9:25 AM  

Kevin Drum is a little slow on the uptake if he hadn't realized by now the open borders was the dominant position of the left these days. They've been saying it loud and proud for, what, a couple of years now?

Kind of amusing. I'm also a bit surprised that he isn't in that camp too. I don't follow his writing, to say the least, but I had the impression that he was pretty far left.

Blogger Stilicho July 16, 2019 9:25 AM  

The Democratic Party is just an idea. A particularly bad idea, but an idea that is open to anyone who wants to loot and kill actual Americans.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 16, 2019 9:27 AM  

The Trumpslide cometh.

I was starting to worry a bit late last year. Visible progress on his agenda was just so slow, and while that wasn't by his choice, the buck still stops with the president. But now that the Democrats are simultaneously setting themselves on fire and pitching Trump softballs, I'm not worried anymore.

Blogger Crew July 16, 2019 9:29 AM  

The Democrats seem to have another big problem as well:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/07/15/dem-internal-poll-ocasio-cortez-becoming-partys-definitional-face-heartland/

Blogger Crew July 16, 2019 9:30 AM  

President Trump seems to be able to play the Democrats and Never Trumpers like a virtuoso!

Blogger sammibandit July 16, 2019 9:35 AM  

VD, it keeps coming up. Would you consider having a post where we could talk about the Indian Wars, treaties, ceasefires, British verses French out East etc?

Blogger sammibandit July 16, 2019 9:36 AM  

Oop, and 1871 Indian Act in Canada 1871 Criminal Tribes Act in India/Pakistan?

Blogger Clay July 16, 2019 9:47 AM  

Huh. About 15 years ago, I was deer/hog hunting down south of Falfurrias, Texas. It was very cold. (yeah, it does get cold down there in late November). Anyway, the guides at the ranch I was hunting on, were all of Mexican origin. Could speak English probably better than me, and without the Mississippi accent.

So, they drive us out to our deer stands one morning, and drop each of us off for a few hours. We were all equipped with walkie-talkies, on the same frequency.

So, after about an hour of freezing my ass off, I see a group of deer come running out of the treeline south of me. A few minutes later, I see five, who I assume were all guys, come be-bopping out of the treeline, right behind the deer. I was kinda pissed they had spoiled my hunt, but not really mad. I swear, all five had on those bright colored quilted parkas, all a different color.

So, I call my guide, named Jesus (not kidding), tells him what I'm looking at, and asks him if I should shoot the one in red. He hesitates for a moment, and comes back telling me "red is out of season". I heard all the other hunters snickering.

Back at the ranch house that nite, all us hunters, and Jesus, had a big chuckle over it, while hitting shots.

Blogger Dan in Georgia July 16, 2019 10:07 AM  

If East Germany still had a wall, the guns would be pointed out.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 16, 2019 10:07 AM  

When you take seriously that Trump is a civic nationalist, it's clear that the last two years have been spent shaping a specific conflict. Civnat America vs. globohomo. It doesn't matter that it is intellectually incoherent - it is what he is doing. There have been enough caravans and clown world that immigration is the number one concern for Americans. Boosting the economy, civnat rhetoric, destroying the media, etc. set the stage for this push now. It's civnat push, but it opposes the right enemies.

The whole thing looks like pace and lead, but there isn't enough information to be confident. Need to see if he leads somewhere.

Blogger Crew July 16, 2019 10:21 AM  

What the Democrats are attempting to do here is to expand the franchise because they are already calling for voting rights for everyone who lives here.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 16, 2019 10:32 AM  

Uncle John's Band wrote:It's civnat push, but it opposes the right enemies.

Yes. Civnat isn't our friend, but it's hurting our enemies. That will do, for now. Pretty sad that the best president in almost two centuries is a third gen immigrant civnat who imagines, or just pretends, that our nation is just an idea. The happy thought is that he is paving the way for something better, even though that's probably not his intent. The worry is that he's sharp enough to see that he's paving the way for something better.

Blogger Dan in Georgia July 16, 2019 10:34 AM  

Another (unlikely but fun) way to look at it is that the GE is an accelerationist. Get the Big Split started before the foreigners are a majority. No one really knows what the man thinks, just that is out of the box. Bigly.

Blogger Whitecloak July 16, 2019 10:42 AM  

@25 That, if nothing else, is proof that God's favor has not completely left us. By faith we shall be saved, and faith alone.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 16, 2019 10:53 AM  

Another (unlikely but fun) way to look at it is that the GE is an accelerationist.

He probably didn't intend to be, but that's the effect he's having. The destroyers aren't willing to simmer the frog anymore. They're trying to jam tranny acceptance through in a tenth of the time homosexual acceptance took. They've dropped the pretense that foreigners are all Americans at heart and started raising the Mexican flag over US offices. They would have gotten there eventually, but Trump looming in their minds is making them rush it, because he's a constant reminder that their "progress" isn't inevitable after all.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 16, 2019 11:02 AM  

@25 It's unpredictable. The illusion is so obnoxious, so obviously fake, and requires so much gaslighting and repression that it is hard to see what happens when it cracks. Just teasing "you have to go back" is such a massive disruption to the whole narrative pressure cooker. Breaking that bubble could easily push things beyond his balancing act.

@25 It is a metaphysical conflict at heart. That's what caps the effectiveness of the civnats. Personal alignment with the Truth is the meaningful dividing line, harsh though it may be.

Blogger IrishFarmer July 16, 2019 11:04 AM  

If Trump wins, it will be because the Democrats dropped the ball. This should have been a 100% guarantee if they had been willing to throw even a bit of scraps to the squishy middle. But this is still primary season so theres time for them to moderate their message to make it palatable to swing whites. Imagine if someone like Bernie or Yang wasnt doing the insane SJW routine? I'd bet ever last dollar i had then on a Trump loss.

Blogger steb July 16, 2019 11:10 AM  

"homeland security efforts like screening cargo, identifying counterfeit goods, and preventing smuggling and trafficking."

You can be reassured that the government will still be coming down hard on all the aspects of free trade that hurt corporate profits.

Blogger Warunicorn July 16, 2019 11:13 AM  

Warren also wants to punish our agents for alleged crimes against illegals.

I have to apologize for foisting this wench upon all of you. I tried (and I'll certainly keep trying) but I'm surrounded by idiots here. lol

Blogger Longtime Lurker July 16, 2019 11:15 AM  

@26: The Democrats are now acting as if whites are a minority even though whites will maintain their majority until the 2040s, if current demographic trends hold.

Trump is forcing the Dems to quadruple down on this tendency, which is giving the American people a prime time preview of how the AOCs and Omars intend to govern after demography delivers the majority to their team.

If Trump is accelerating anything, it is a basic awareness that civic nationalism is failing, that asymmetrical multiculturalism (identity politics for me, but not for thee) is a disaster, and that a major, immediate course correction needed to happen yesterday.

That said, the Democrats are fools for acting as if whites are already a minority - an outcome they have been trying to accelerate by any means necessary.

Blogger 🐻Drew🐻 July 16, 2019 11:16 AM  

Identifying counterfeit goods? Maybe we can go the other way and have them identify counterfeit Americans.

Blogger Jeroth July 16, 2019 11:22 AM  

Now if he would just stop it with all the anti-Semitism and Israel nonsense. He's really solidifying the evangelicals obsession with them, which is exactly the opposite of what we need.

Blogger Peachy Essay July 16, 2019 11:34 AM  

Couldn't agree more.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 16, 2019 11:46 AM  

Trump is trolling them with the anti-semitism stuff. The ADL gets it; they accused him of "cynically using the Jewish people and the state of Israel as a shield" for his comments. Why aren't they thanking him for making evangelicals a bit more Israelphilic?

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 16, 2019 11:49 AM  

Misdirection here too. Barr has quietly invoked a multilateral treaty declaring Mexico a safe third country - all non-Mexicans asylum seekers will be sent to Mexico for their hearings. Apparently the provision is outside judicial review. If an asylum spigot closes and no shill reports on it...

@35 He needs to not be a civnat. Not happening now, but it's quite possible that if things cascade he'll wind up there.

Blogger Jeroth July 16, 2019 11:50 AM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:Why aren't they thanking him for making evangelicals a bit more Israelphilic?

Have they ever sincerely thanked anyone for anything? Evangelicals are the last major dam holding back a complete collapse of their influence, and they take pickaxes to it every day.

Blogger Whitecloak July 16, 2019 11:57 AM  

@39 Turns out that the Lords of Subversion cannot but help to subvert all nations, including their own.

Blogger State Estimation July 16, 2019 12:38 PM  

Vox, thanks for your clear explication of nationalism. There is so much confusion out there.

Blogger Dan in Georgia July 16, 2019 12:45 PM  

If you think the Dems are crazy now, just wait till they lose the House in the Trumpslide.

AOC for Minority Leader!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 16, 2019 12:56 PM  

Uncle John's Band wrote:@35 He needs to not be a civnat. Not happening now, but it's quite possible that if things cascade he'll wind up there.

Others have suggested that he is not as civnat as he pretends. I wouldn't rule that out. Trump seems bright enough to see where he is leading us. He can probably see that he is not leading us to the civnats' happy place. All that is well in the future, though.

The sooner we go hard right, hard nationalist, the less damage we will have to undo. I'd like to see us get there while we can still hold the casualties down to 6 or low 7 digits.

Blogger Whitecloak July 16, 2019 12:59 PM  

@43 That's my hope. I might get frustrated in the heat of the moment or discouraged by the lack of progress but Lord knows I'm not privy to the palace war in the rotten imperial city. I'm eager for election season to heat up, if nothing else the contrast between Trump and his demon infested foes in the uniparty and among the Invasion Left makes the choice to both vote and be vocal in support an easy one.

Blogger Lovekraft July 16, 2019 1:15 PM  

Just more big government intervention. Just build the wall and enforce the laws, ensuring the American taxpayers aren't left holding the bill. That simple.

The more the leftists talk about this issue, the less they convince me that they have solid economic vision, which is where the line is being drawn.

Blogger ZhukovG July 16, 2019 2:27 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd: I believe President Trump's Civic Nationalism has a very pale complexion. About 80% pale, based on when the GE was a youngster.

I believe President Trump is fully in control of his administration. Kushner is his pro-Israel prop. Bolton is his 'America Über Alles' prop.

He also seems to have more control over the Democrats than Nancy Pelosi does.

He will do all he can, short of start a civil war.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 16, 2019 2:27 PM  

Trump has the Democrats helping him run on his own platform that got him elected.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 16, 2019 2:31 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:@Ominous Cowherd: I believe President Trump's Civic Nationalism has a very pale complexion. About 80% pale, based on when the GE was a youngster.

He does appear to be trying to restore the empire to the condition he remembers from his youth. ``Restore the empire'' is the problem with that plan.

Blogger ZhukovG July 16, 2019 3:37 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd: We both know this is going to end in tears. I believe they will mostly be Globalist tears and that, whether he realizes it or not, President Trump is laying the groundwork for a future that must come.

The American Empire will fall, the Union will be divided. I trust that God, in his grace, will aid us in raising something good from the ashes.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Crew July 16, 2019 4:06 PM  

@41: There are some (((conservatives))) who think Eric Blair defined Nationalism:

https://libcom.org/files/Notes%20on%20Nationalism%20-%20George%20Orwell.pdf

Blogger State Estimation July 16, 2019 7:56 PM  

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Blogger State Estimation July 16, 2019 7:59 PM  

Crew, you'd think a literary type could come up with a more precise alternative. Maybe partisanism would be a better fit.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell July 16, 2019 10:38 PM  

Kevin Drum is also approvingly tweeting about liberals needing to win the race war.

Remember when talking about a race war was a white supremacist talking point? It's become quite mainstream among the left now for some reason. Maybe they think they can finally win one? IDK.

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