Wednesday, July 10, 2019

Yeah, about that

There was a sign saying "If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

Because they are among those who have been given over to the god of this world who rules the Earth and blinded to the light of the Gospel. I'm confident that the gays of Sodom and Gomorrah thought that they were winning too.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
- Romans 1:18-32

Notice that it all comes to down to the truth versus the lie. Embrace the lie and eventually you will be filled with every kind of wickedness. Conservatives should pay particular heed to that warning, as they have embraced the lies about equality, tolerance, race, immigration, churchianity, and Judeo-Christianity.

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Blogger The Scribe July 10, 2019 6:15 AM  


Blogger tublecane July 10, 2019 6:21 AM  

If gays are winning, why are they always complaining.

Okay, maybe they're successfully exploiting the weakness of our decaying social order. But they have to deal with AIDS, other STDs and medical issues (normal people aren't at as much risk of contracting fecal parasites or prolapsed anuses from sex), high suicide rates, childlessness, increased odds of abuse, despair, ennui, nihilism, etc.

Those are the physical and psychological tolls. There ought to be moral and spiritual ones too. They're adept at ignoring the consequences, but they can't ignore forever.

Blogger Wayne July 10, 2019 6:25 AM  

Most make the mistake in believing that God's wrath is fire and brimstone raining down from Heaven. In fact, it is something far worse. He removes His influence from your life or nation and doesn't stand in the way while you sow the seeds of your own destruction.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf July 10, 2019 6:28 AM  

Maybe great temptation lays before a great test?

This reminded me of a question had concerning John 1:1:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I'm curious about the phrase 'the Word' which most people know is a translation of the Greek word Logos. It's commonly accepted that Jesus is called The Word (or the Logos) because he was the Son of God sent to earth to reveal his Father's mind to the world.

But I was taught Logos was one of three parts of Rhetoric. With the other two being Ethos and Pathos. Logos, in that sense, refers to Logic, or in that time: Term-Logic. As The Term, this would indicate Jesus's role is to discern Truth, or True-Values in modern vernacular.

My curiosity revolves around this difference between Term and Word. As I understand, in Aristotle's day there progression from subjective experience (qualia) to objective reality that goes something like this:

1) Qualia
2) Term
3) Word
4) Object

In this sense, Jesus would seemingly be closer to the Term, not the Word. Because the Term is a Universal, whereas the Word changes with language. I feel like there is something here .... something. Maybe there's nothing. It just feels like I'm not connecting a dot somewhere.

As an example of the above:
1) experiencing the taste of chocolate
2) term chocolate
3) words for chocolate: chocolate, チョコレート, cioccolato
4) the actual chocolate

Aristotle made Logos for the Universal Terms, not the Words. I feel there's something special about the Term. I sometimes wonder if they would continue to exist without us? Or that our purpose is to find them. They're beyond us, special, and again, universal. Words are more like our way of making sense of them. Is Jesus a step higher? Like a Term that unifies all Terms?

Maybe I'm way off base here?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 10, 2019 6:39 AM  

AIDS is "winning" ????

Coulda fooled me

Blogger Dirk Manly July 10, 2019 6:40 AM  


"If gays are winning, why are they always complaining."

Large percentage of (((gays))). And for the (((set))), whining is a lifestyle.

Blogger ldigiorgio July 10, 2019 6:50 AM  

Matt 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. These are Jesus words saying he endorses the law in the OT down to a jot over a letter. An ordnance would be for like killing animals for sacrifice which no longer apply because of Christ on the cross.A statute would be like eating shell fish or pig, you can do it but it is not good for you.

Blogger Kraemer July 10, 2019 6:52 AM  

@4 you're def onto something, but its several miles above my pay grade. If a 5-year old with a 180 IQ could dedicate the rest of his life to that question, we may approximate an answer, imho

Blogger Scuzzaman July 10, 2019 7:03 AM  

After all, if God hated nazis, why did they keep winning?

Yeah ... until they didn’t. That effect does not immediately follow cause is not an argument against cause and effect.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine July 10, 2019 7:16 AM  

@4 Some people speculate that that would be something like the ur-language, spoken before God confused the languages of men and determined the nations.

What could be said with more certainty, however, is that in that schema, a "term" is probably something like a word in a language with no vagueness or ambiguity possible. This is superior to human languages as practiced, and probably to human languages period.

Alternatively, something like a word but with self-honing, self-specifying properties, so that to use it is to perfect its practice. I think this has been expressed as hypothetical "Self Configuring, Self Processing Language" elsewhere.

Terms that are perfection and are "becoming" or "transforming" other things toward perfection, for lack of a better word.

I would however hesitate to even consider saying that this is a proper translation of Logos as used to describe what was said to be with God and as God. No sense trying to put God in a box. That sort of practice as a general rule ends with putting your own brain in a headcase instead, which is a rather poetic punishment.

And now my head hurts. Later.

Blogger John July 10, 2019 7:17 AM  

"If conservatives serve God, why do they keep letting gays win?"

Blogger JC Skinner July 10, 2019 7:18 AM  

They're always complaining because they worked out that weaponising the altruism and compassion of others benefits them.
But it certainly doesn't make them happy. The more liberties they get, the more miserable they become.
Few things as tragic as an ageing queen. And they know that their isolation is self inflicted, and a judgement of their own kind, who fetishize youth and ruthlessly discard each other when the first grey hair or wrinkle appears, unless they can pay.

Blogger John Rockwell July 10, 2019 7:19 AM  

@Dirk Manly

The efforts of man to be able to continue in sin without consequence:

But I believe God will simply multiply and strengthen the plagues to such an extent that it afflicts not only them but all who will help them.

All angles of attack will be employed.

Blogger John Rockwell July 10, 2019 7:21 AM  

"If conservatives serve God, why do they keep letting gays win?"

They let the Duluth Model pass:

Women's suffrage. Repealed coverture, No-fault divorce.

Enacted anti-male laws of all kinds in their cuckishness.

So why not let the gays win too?

Blogger John Rockwell July 10, 2019 7:24 AM  

Not to mention the Duluth Model is anti-constitutional and is an attack on the foundations of America.

This video will open your eyes to the horrors of one of the foundations of family destruction of America:

Blogger McChuck July 10, 2019 7:26 AM  

There is nothing new under the sun. The sins of old will always be repeated by the foolish.

The crowd will always follow the charlatan who promises everlasting life with no moral consequences, and cheeseburgers today, with payment deferred until next Tuesday.

Blogger FrankNorman July 10, 2019 7:30 AM  

There was a sign saying "If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

Where was that sign?

Gays seems to be one of those groups who will talk out of both sides of their mouths about their social status. When it suits them, they are poor disempowered victims. But the inner narcissist shows through soon - they have to reinterpret it all as themselves being the winners so that they can gloat over it.

Blogger Lazarus July 10, 2019 7:31 AM  

Meng Greenleaf wrote:Maybe I'm way off base here?

Rather than limiting the use of the term logos to rhetoric, exam how it is used in philosophy and theology.

Blogger cisbio July 10, 2019 7:34 AM  

In all probability, the fair citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah were devotees of local cults that practiced forms of sacred prostitution, presumably of a both hetero- and homo-sexual nature. Hence Lot offers his two virgin daughters to the men of Sodom, in the stead of his angelic guests (crafty, that).

Herodotus says such cults, which in New Testament times were identified with the fertility aspects of Aphrodite, compelled every woman to attend to temple and offer herself for monies at least once in her life.

Blogger Dave July 10, 2019 7:40 AM  

If only they heeded Vox's advice; meme creator regrets talking to the media.

Blogger Solon July 10, 2019 7:42 AM  


You may be on to something. Logos meaning the term, i.e. the essence of something, beyond what words can describe. I'm looking right now at day lilies growing in my yard.

"Lily" is the English word to convey to another that I'm talking about a flower, and to describe what kind of flower it is: bright orange petals, tall stalk with long sharp leaves at the bottom, and so on.

That word, however, "Lily," doesn't really get at the essence of what it means to "be" a lily. It's a descriptor, but not entirely descriptive, because we aren't lilies, and we'll never fully understand what it means to be a lily.

Similarly, Christ is the Son of God, and part of God. As mortals, we will never understand what it means to BE God, and any words we choose to use to describe God will always fall short of the actual essence of God.

All languages are remarkably non-descriptive when you get right down to it. Heck, English only has one word for "Love." Ancient Greeks recognized three different words for different kinds of "love," and even then, they don't truly convey what the concept of "love" is.

So, to my understanding, calling Christ "the Logos" is simply the Ancient Greeks' attempt at conveying the idea that Christ is part of the essence of God, more so than any descriptive words in any language could possibly convey.

"The Word" is extremely inaccurate as far as translations go when considered in this context.

And now I'm with Azure where my head hurts trying to converse on this subject.

Blogger Brian Peterson July 10, 2019 7:46 AM  

Nothing is new under the sun. The Bible has a way of always feeling like it was written yesterday.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 10, 2019 7:59 AM  

Remember that rainbow was a symbol of His promise not to flood the planet again when it has too many degenerates.
Now the they wave it in His face, even as they sexualize children.
It's going to be fire next time.
May it come without warning.

Blogger anorganicbear July 10, 2019 8:01 AM  

@12 JC Skinner: "The more liberties they get, the more miserable they become."

It wasn't until after liberation that AIDS more or less wiped them out. The response is telling. After a plague with a 100% mortality rate, did they repent and come back to God? No, they pushed condoms and MORE anal sex!

I don't think it's because they are mentally retarded, I think they are spiritually retarded. I think even a retard would understand that pushing the same thing that caused millions of gays to die extremely painfully but with a thin layer of plastic wrapped around your dick is not a great approach to avoiding the very serious consequences of AIDS.

There's also this insidious lie that gay people are just like normal people, all they want is to love. There's nothing wrong with love, right?

"Their research reveals that forty percent of the 86 couples started out with agreements to be open and have maintained this status, while the remaining sixty percent of the couples took an average of 6.5 years to open their relationship."

But isn't that just a one-off study with a skewed data set??? Isn't that because these particular men were oppressed?

"Most of the studies of gay men report about 50% are monogamous—they have been Bay Area studies and studies that were done all over the US and Australia and Western Europe."

Everything the bible says about homosexuality is true. It's not about love, it's about fornication. It's not about what's normal and found in nature, it's a push toward crimes against nature. And just like Sodom and Gomorrah, it can only end one way.

Blogger Stilicho July 10, 2019 8:02 AM  

There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Meng Greenleaf.

The manner in which you are attempting to understand Logos is akin to Plato's form of the good applied to Christ. However, it falls short due to human limitations and inability to fully comprehend God. Perhaps if there were an idealized, comprehensive, and perfect form of the good that encompasses all Truth, you might describe or at least label it Logos. In the end though, I think the passage from John quoted above is about as close as human understanding can come ("in the beginning was the Word...").

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( all aboard the Askren hype train ) July 10, 2019 8:04 AM  

you know, the rainbow was originally a symbol from God that he had cleansed the Earth of filth and corruption and perversion.

Blogger Alexamenos July 10, 2019 8:07 AM  

"they invent ways of doing evil"

In my wildest dreams I could never have imagined drag queen story hour.

Blogger Nate July 10, 2019 8:18 AM  

that passage of romans.. the whole thing.. was read before the sermon at a youth camp I was just at last week. there were some kids looking around with BIG eyes. but most were from Alabama and Mississippi. so we got some amens.

Blogger The Observer July 10, 2019 8:29 AM  


The last treatment they had, they sodomised into uselessness in 4 years.

Blogger anorganicbear July 10, 2019 8:36 AM  

@29: Yes, and the current one seems to rely on the current antiretroviral drug cocktail that 70% of them don't even stay on consistently.

Blogger PaulSacramento July 10, 2019 8:37 AM  

Yeah, you know who else was "winning" ?
Charlie Sheen

Blogger My Shield Is Disgust July 10, 2019 8:40 AM  


Burn the heretic, kill the mutant, purge the unclean

Blogger rondolf July 10, 2019 8:52 AM  

"If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

When first prize is a lifetime supply of GRIDS and a ruptured anus I can only thank God for losing.

Blogger widlast washere July 10, 2019 8:59 AM  

"If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

What do these fools think they are winning at?
They have sky high rates of suicide and disease. It was recently reported that gay males have a life expectancy 35 YEARS LESS than hetero males. They regularly get diseases that decent folks have never heard of.

If that is winning, I don't want to see what losing would be.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 10, 2019 9:03 AM  

Don't move away from the simplicity of the Gospel. Jesus is the Word. You are overcomplicating it.

Blogger Gregory the Great July 10, 2019 9:13 AM  

Most sinners and bad guys get caught in the traps they set for themselves. Doesn't even require an active intervention from God.

Blogger Purge187 July 10, 2019 9:18 AM  

Those earthquakes in L.A. are just the beginning.

Blogger David Ray Milton July 10, 2019 9:20 AM  

There was a time in my life where I wanted to be “Compassionate” towards gays, despite this very clear passage of scripture. Ironically, this was before I had even really known a gay person.

But, over the last twelve years in the work force I’ve worked with a few and dozens have worked for me. There’s an exception here and there, but generally they are hedonists, self-loathing, existentially confused, emotionally shattered, jealousy ridden, substance addicted, abusive/abused in their relationships, vain, and absolutely devoid of love.

I no longer feel compassion for them, just terrible sadness for what they call consider their lives.

According to Christ, they are lost. According to the logic of Darwin (the liar), they are unfit to reproduce.

Who could envy these people or ever think that they were winning?

Blogger John July 10, 2019 9:30 AM  

Well said.

Blogger LES July 10, 2019 9:37 AM  

2 Peter 3: 8-10

But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

Blogger John July 10, 2019 9:41 AM  

God punished Lot for having offered his daughters to the sodomites. Lot was himself made to lay with his daughters while drunk.

Blogger Iron Spartan July 10, 2019 9:42 AM  

They might be winning battles, but acceptance among Gen Zyklon and Millenials is dropping fast. Sounds like they are losing the war.

Blogger cecilhenry July 10, 2019 10:04 AM  

In that line, there's this:

Weird, huh?

Every. Single. Time.™

Blogger peacefulposter July 10, 2019 10:04 AM  

Faith Goldy just put out a video about how Gay Pride month is apparently not over. The promotion of Drag Kids on state TV is just the latest evidence.

Blogger Difranco July 10, 2019 10:14 AM

Blogger Sherlock July 10, 2019 10:35 AM  

In my very large company the haven't stopped. It's awful.

Blogger Crush Limbraw July 10, 2019 10:46 AM  

Anyone who has spent some time on Vox Popoli knows that Christianity is the indispensable pillar of Western Civilization - change Christianity to Churchianity and it's mission accomplished for Old Scratch.
The question then becomes - how exactly was it done?
After reading last Sunday's post on Vox's site about Epstein's arrest, I posted this in DaLimbrawLibrary:
"What happened to the church in America? Here is the straight skinny!"

A news item today triggered my reaction – to every event there is a cause. There are no accidents. BTW – when you read a Vox Day item, be sure to read the comments.

Coincidentally – maybe not – I was doing a word search on Ephesians 6:12 in DaLimbrawLibrary.
Here is what I found in hits: All of them – the first one which I summarized and posted back in March – and then BINGO Moving on to maturity: a challenge to Christians - by Dr. Joel McDurmon – it said everything I had and have been thinking about for years – it literally defines my website and the library. Please read Dr. McDurmon carefully – reflect on it – it is a true assessment – judging by empirical evidence alone. It is an indictment of the church!

Do we even understand what it means when Paul wrote Ephesians 6:12 - For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Read this post today – the perverts are not only condoned, they are now protected species and they are after your kids, grandkids – they say so – and we pretend as if they do not exist!
Do you have any idea what is now taught in schools, churches and library story hours to kindergarteners – and who is teaching them?

Need I say more?"
The above narrative is full of links - the article by Joel McDurmon spells out how the church today neuters itself - dispensing pabulum from the pulpits. That has been my contention for years. Several years ago, I was asked to leave a men's bible study because I was tired of plowing the same freaking furrow and said so - anything beyond personal pietism was out of bounds for that gang.
You can link here:

Blogger Uncephalized July 10, 2019 11:24 AM  

@26 furor "you know, the rainbow was originally a symbol from God that he had cleansed the Earth of filth and corruption and perversion."

Now that you mention it, it does seem as though they are taunting God over His promise not to flood the Earth again, doesn't it?

It's like they've forgotten that He still has earthquakes, pillars of fire, tornadoes, avalanches, and giant flaming meteors, just to name a few.

Blogger LES July 10, 2019 11:28 AM  

There is a formula here: the most sensitive, offended individual or group gets to make the rules for everyone else. If they don't get their way they throw a tantrum. From the gay-rights attack on the American Psychological Association to painting over a mural in a California high school. Even two-year olds know how this works.

Christians today are taught to always be polite and avoid conflict.

Never allow SJW's to have moral authority over you. Call them out for it when they try it.

Blogger Critias July 10, 2019 11:32 AM  

@Crush Limbraw
two books I have my sights on reading at the moment from the catholic perspective of what happened to the church are;
'John Courtney Murray, Time/Life, and the American Proposition' by David Weemhoff
and 'The plot against the Church' by Maurice Pinay. Many questions will be answered reading those two books I should think.

Also look online and read 'Letter of Saint Athanasius to His Flock' it's from the 4th century a different time but the same old problems.

Blogger Amy July 10, 2019 11:34 AM  

The Yellowstone caldera, too. Hey, it could happen.

The GE wants the citizenship question added to the census. Why is this such a problem?

Don’t answer that. It’s rhetorical.

Like many do, he’s aware that time and money are running out. The welfare gravy train can’t last forever. For illegals, for single moms, for gays who chased and caught All The Bugs.

Even if not explicitly aware, people know this can’t last forever. Hence the anger, the ramped up moral signals, the violence in absence of informed thought.

Blogger rumpole5 July 10, 2019 11:37 AM  

Whoa! Great post. Only minds deluded by perfect, pure, evil could explain the news we see every day.

Blogger xevious2030 July 10, 2019 11:45 AM  

“Jesus would seemingly be closer to the Term, not the Word. Because the Term is a Universal, whereas the Word changes with language.”

That is word salad. And it is a redefinition.

Genesis 1:3 “And God said [‘Amar], Let there be light: and there was light.”

1 Corinthians 1:23 (“and unto the Greeks [Hellen] foolishness [Moria]”) and 1 Corinthians 2:14, verses of the cross and of the Spirit.

Blogger CM July 10, 2019 11:55 AM  

Do we even understand what it means when Paul wrote Ephesians 6:12 - For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

I have always reacted to people of the same group differently... like to one, compassion but to another complete aversion.

I guess that's what discernment does - points out the lamb that was led astray and who the demon-possessed authorities are. I'm glad God promises harsher punishment to those who worship satan and lead God's sheep to their eternal deaths.

Blogger xevious2030 July 10, 2019 11:59 AM  

And, when one says the "role of Jesus," they are saying the "role of God." God does not play a role, He simply is, take it or leave it. Jesus has things to be done, in their times, but not roles.

Blogger Oswald July 10, 2019 12:05 PM  

We know how people like Kevin Spacey avoided getting AIDS in the 80s now!!

Blogger Lone wolf July 10, 2019 12:22 PM  

"Conservatives should pay particular heed to that warning, as they have embraced the lies about equality, tolerance, race, immigration, churchianity, and Judeo-Christianity.

And feminism, the MIC, the state, the "federal reserve" ad infinitum....

The left has some form of WYSIWYG especially if you know any history. CuckservaTARDS are completely fucking clueless with their faux morality based in ignorance and stupidity. CuckservaTARDS are so stupid they are controlled opposition and most don't even know it. Remember Christ's biggest enemies where the religious moral hypocrites, the Pharisees. Cuckservatives are modern day pharisees. AmeriKKKa hoorah!

Blogger Lone wolf July 10, 2019 12:32 PM  

CuckservaTARDS: Straining out a gnat while swallowing a camel.

Blogger justaguy July 10, 2019 1:24 PM  

#5, and others: Aids: pretty much solved by using a large portion of the world's medical research for a couple of decades. The cocktails of drugs now knock down the virus to levels in the blood where it isn't even transmitted. Now this leads to two questions.

1. what cure did we neglect while the best minds of medicine worked on this?
2. what does this show about where our rulers/elites are wrt God?

Blogger Don't Call Me Len July 10, 2019 3:17 PM  

why do we keep winning?

Because you're damn-near-perfect useful idiots for the power hungry to exploit for political ends.

After a plague with a 100% mortality rate, did they repent and come back to God? No, they pushed condoms and MORE anal sex!

And that's only the rare ones that admit any possible culpability. Most act like HIV infection is some thing that just happens to people, like catching a cold or becoming an addict. If it happens more often to homos, well, that's because of a right-wing conspiracy!

Blogger Ryu238 July 10, 2019 3:49 PM  

"Because they are among those who have been given over to the god of this world who rules the Earth and blinded to the light of the Gospel. I'm confident that the gays of Sodom and Gomorrah thought that they were winning too." This is presumptious of the bibles validity.

Blogger freddie_mac July 10, 2019 4:09 PM  

There was a sign saying "If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

If they're winning, then why are they so angry?

@59 justaguy
what cure did we neglect while the best minds of medicine worked on [AIDS]?

Aside from a cure for cancer? Medical research is all about following the $$$, which is why so much research is devoted to breast & prostate cancer. For that matter, what about simply understanding chronic diseases a bit better so that medications can be targeted more precisely?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine July 10, 2019 6:11 PM  

"This is presumptious of the bibles validity."

Says the person who not only doesn't know what he's speaking, but where he's speaking it.

Blogger Thesmith July 10, 2019 6:38 PM  

The homosexuals have a fundamental misunderstanding of how power works.

You cannot be given power, you can only take it. There was no homosexual vs heterosexual war. So, they aren't "winning" because they never "won." Their existence depends entirely on heterosexuals giving them power, so it can be taken away at any point. The homosexuals know this, deep down, which is why they constantly ramp up the rhetoric and anger. It distracts the heterosexuals from realising who truly holds the reins.

But the question is, since something has definitely changed in our society and the homosexuals appear to be proxies, just who and what is the nature of this hidden faction?

A group of people DID actually win a war (a major one) and as a result it controls the default assumptions of modern society. This faction calls itself "progressivism," which is a loose term connecting a lot of people by an undirected (bottom-up) synopsis that can trace its roots back through Puritan Massachusetts, Roundhead England, Calvin and Luther. This faction won the Long War of 1914-1991 and is the most successful sect of Protestant Christianity extant today.

The homosexuals are proxies of this Christian sect. The sect hides in plain sight because it called itself “secular” and therefore isn’t subject to the laws of separating church and state. Secular Protestantism might sound like a contradiction in terms, but only to those who don’t understand Protestantism. And it will make even less sense to people who do not understand how power works: if you win, you get to write the rules.

The progressives' main enemy is trinitarian Christianity (with its core in the hierarchical structures of Orthodox and Catholic Christianity, but also any Christian who still believes in an actual divine Trinity). Everything the trinitarians accept, the progressive (Protestants) invert while remaining within the boundaries of broader Christianity, adhering to concepts like egalitarianism, freedom, world peace, tolerance and equity. The fight is over control of the Christian empire, and since WWII the progressives are in the lead. Sometimes, when they’re feeling especially powerful, they will call themselves Unitarians or Universalists, and claim they are “taking back Christianity.”

What makes progressives (Protestants) tough to fight is because a key part of their success is quite literally the use of the "leaderless resistance" model based on the doctrine of rejecting the Roman Catholic Church's idea that it is the one true church, believing instead in the invisible church which consists of all who profess faith in Jesus Christ. If all these people work with the synopsis, there is no need for a central authority and therefore nothing to attack.

In other words, the Protestant doctrine of the invisible church is the genesis and the foundation of communism and terrorism. You cannot get to Karl Marx or Osama bin Laden through the doctrines of the Catholic Church. There’s a reason why all marginally successful insurgent or terror groups eventually adopt the leaderless resistance model – because it works, and the Protestants proved it.

For this reason, if you want to reverse the madness of the homosexual vanguard (or whatever inversion of reality you're talking about) the correct target is Protestant Christianity. Every other target is a waste of energy. Why take an axe to the branches?

But, the real question is: if the structure of the Catholic Church allowed for the development of Protestantism, of what use was this structure? We are in a moment of history where either we return to another bout in the Roundhead versus Cavalier battle of the last few centuries, and slip into Nietzsche’s flat circle of neverending madness, or we rethink the default model of society. Maybe this new model includes parts of doctrinal Christianity, maybe it doesn’t. But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

And boy oh boy, we must all look insane to a Martian right now.

Blogger sammibandit July 10, 2019 7:13 PM  

The only homos who matter in the longview are those that reproduce. By homo I mean homo sapiens.

Blogger Ska_Boss July 10, 2019 7:22 PM  

"If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

Simple, God's kingdom is not of this earth. Only a fool would want a world that is doomed to fire and destruction.

Blogger Kristophr July 10, 2019 8:49 PM  

4. Meng Greenleaf:

Words and terms are 2nd and later order abstractions, past the object itself, and the abstract set; an actual chocolate bar, and a set of similar ( but NOT identical ) chocolate bars.

If you want to explore this further, I suggest reading Alfred Korzybski's introduction to General Semantics, Science and Sanity ( an easy read, compared to his brutally difficult main work, Manhood of Humanity ).

Blogger Meng Greenleaf July 10, 2019 11:11 PM  

Thanks for the numerous above comments. And, apologies if the post sounded like word-salad or redefinition. In formal deductive logic 'word' is different from 'term'. Hence Aristotle's "term-logic" (his syllogism is probably a third to a half of a single pillar of Western Civilization alone for what it's worth).

I do agree that there's a Platonic-likeness to my thinking, but personally I'm more inclined to think inductively and do prefer Aristotle. Plato is like reading about 'magic' to me, he creates a scifi or fantasy world. Aristotle is like the teacher who takes the scifi book out of your hand and says: time to study the real-world :)

The Britannica link was informative and I agree Logos is used in this sense. The Infogalactic webpage on Logos is equally informative but more inclined towards the rhetorical use through logic.

Funny enough, I've been pondering John 1:1 from time to time for about 2 years - but the question actually developed while I was thinking about neocortical engram-encodings. Research into this area is limited and seemingly disproved my initial hypothesis (I was interested in semantic memory versus autobiographical). Which, if you see the above suggested reading, makes sense. I had envisioned 'semantic' memories were detected in a way that probably isn't that case. But, maybe. No one knows actually.

I'll order Alfred Korzybski's "General Semantics, Science and Sanity" and see if anything clicks into place.

Again, thanks.

Oh, as for homosexuality. If it's true that modern civilization allows for a build up in mutational load, then it stands to reason more unnatural behaviors (like homosexuality) will arise in modern civilized populations. Regardless of your religious affiliation, it's clear that 'Western" society *requires* a family unit. In as little as 20 years, post-Western society (I'd say post-Civilizational Boomerville) is in freaken free-fall.


Either this ship is turned around now by us, or nature will sink it. Of this I have no doubt - we can see the littered remains of past populations. And if it sinks, then I fully expect to see cannibalism making a comeback.

So, the way forward has been made clear. No more excuses. There's no time left for excuses.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim July 11, 2019 12:02 AM  

All ungodliness is incoherent. For example, a leftist godless person will tell you that a child can legitimately switch sexes and should be given hormones or hormone blockers to help them in that transition.
They will also tell you that Gays can never ever EVER become straight, not even a little bit, and to try to change a homosexual into a heterosexual is ABUSE.

Blogger MichaelJMaier July 11, 2019 12:11 AM  

"If gays are winning, why are they always complaining."

Because they are thoroughly miserable and foul.

I attended an Easter luncheon a few years back. A very ugly and VERY fat dyke HAD to introduce herself and "her wife" to me, even though we'd never met and I had no interest in meeting them.

Being a gracious guest, I just gritted my teeth and let her ugliness pass on by. I just wanted food.

But the fact that she couldn't resist "bragging" about her "marriage" grated on me. Still does. How pathetic a creature do you have to be to do such things?

"I exist! Look at me!"

Yeah, bitch.... you're really normal. And sane. Yup.... yup.

So damned ugly. Through and through.

Blogger Lone wolf July 11, 2019 12:30 AM  

"If God hates gays, why do we keep winning?"

Uhhh because CuckservaTARDS are retarded and are the so-called "opposition", that might have something to do with it.

Blogger Lone wolf July 11, 2019 12:30 AM  

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Blogger VFM #7634 July 11, 2019 3:11 AM  

@64 Thesmith

Especially since the Vatican got converged in 1958 when the first of the current string of modernist fake popes, John XXIII, was "elected". Ironically, those traditional Catholics who do see that the rulers of the Vatican since 1958 are antipopes (i.e., "sedevacantists") have basically gone to a leaderless resistance model against the converged Vatican out of necessity, since even centralized trad organizations such as the SSPX have ended up in a cuckservative stance insisting on recognizing the fake Vatican popes as valid and spending a lot of energy attacking those trad Catholics who don't.

Blogger BriarRabbit July 11, 2019 6:46 AM  

"The word".. are you familiar with the double slit experiment that reveals the weird world of quantum physics?

While reading about the effects of this experiment, I was struck by the part of Genesis where "God saw". The DSE shows that observation literally makes our reality. That's exactly what God did.

I am certain there is a deeper connection in that than God just looking over His work appreciatively. God SEEING is a crucial part of how He made the universe and reveals much of the nature of this reality.

Blogger BriarRabbit July 11, 2019 7:07 AM  

Then you are really gonna be shocked at the push to legalize pedophilia and the other evil goodies coming down the pike.

Blogger July 11, 2019 1:34 PM  

Good. Paedophilia is the last element of Babylon. Babylon is what they are building after all.

Once complete, God will destroy it. God Hates Babylon.

Blogger SirHamster July 11, 2019 6:15 PM  

Thesmith wrote:In other words, the Protestant doctrine of the invisible church is the genesis and the foundation of communism and terrorism.

About Protestants inventing terrorism ...

Jewish zealots. Order of Assassins.

You cannot be given power, you can only take it.
By this view, the Catholic church must reclaim its power over Christiandom by taking it, rather than appealing to reason for people to give it back. Why are you talking?

Whichever route you wish to take, Catholics cleaning up the Catholic church will do more for her than blaming everything on Protestants.

Blogger xevious2030 July 12, 2019 12:42 AM  

"if the post sounded like word-salad or redefinition."

What I quoted was word salad and redefinition, it didn't simply sound like it. No need to appologize.

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