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Saturday, August 03, 2019

Shall we pretend to be surprised?

Another mass shooting, this time in El Paso:
KTSM can confirm that 18 people were shot inside the Walmart. The extent of their injuries is unknown at this time. El Paso Police and multiple other law enforcement agencies are responding to a shooting at the Walmart an active shooter situation.
I wonder how many people from Las Vegas and Gilroy will just happen to be there to be interviewed by the media? I'd put the over/under on three.

Update: A fake white nationalist manifesto has already made the rounds and been debunked.

Update: The Associated Press quotes three witnesses who report seeing four gunmen:
A family of three was among a dozen people waiting outside a bus station. They were trying to return to their car that was in a blocked-off Walmart parking lot. “I heard the shots but I thought they were hits, like roof construction,” said Adriana Quezada, 39, who was in the women’s clothing section of Walmart with her two children. Quezada said she saw four men, dressed in black, moving together firing guns indiscriminately. Police confirmed only one gunman.
And yet, the only shooter in custody is a young drug-addled man. Again. I understand that eyewitness reports in stressful situations are intrinsically unreliable, but "four men dressed in black" are considerably more likely to be confused with "three men dressed in dark brown" or "six men dressed in blue" than zero men. 

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167 Comments:

Blogger Daniel August 03, 2019 2:51 PM  

Lemme guess: 2nd person of interest. Very very angry. .22 adorned with highly tactical accoutrements: the infamous "squirrel sleeper" variety.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams August 03, 2019 3:05 PM  

The pattern changed. Three suspects were taken into custody. Must be evil white suprecists shooting innocent, hard working immigrants.

Blogger Jeroth August 03, 2019 3:14 PM  

Unconfirmed reports of the FBI investigating a Christchurch inspired manifesto posted on 4chan this morning.

I wonder if Podesta was in El Paso recently.

Blogger Arthur Isaac August 03, 2019 3:16 PM  

Weird, if I was a mass shooter I think I'd pick the El Paso Walmart right before the Fairbanks Walmart on the last Walmart I would want to shoot up list.

Blogger Brett baker August 03, 2019 3:21 PM  

If it's the closest gun-free zone, you might.

Blogger Jeroth August 03, 2019 3:24 PM  

@5 I doubt most Texans treat Walmart as a gun free zone, regardless of what the official store policy might be.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 03, 2019 3:31 PM  

Right across that border the Mexicans engage in gun battles all the time, now who in their right minds thinks it was always going to stay on that side of the border as Mexico at best stagnates or disintergrates and Texas does not have the will it had in 1915 to shoot any shit stirring Mexican?

When the progs scold you about the no need for a border you can ask them what will that do for gun imports from Mexico, the ones with the fun switch attached.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 03, 2019 3:32 PM  

The leftists are playing like it's 1995.
And why not? It worked so well before with these cucks in opposition.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 03, 2019 3:40 PM  

What if it turns out to be a Fast & Furious gun can we arrest Obama and Holder?

Blogger Zander Stander August 03, 2019 3:47 PM  

Some numerology for you. Didn't somebody say symbols would be their downfall?

Blogger Jeroth August 03, 2019 3:54 PM  

Definitely a white guy, no body armor. If it were a false flag, I'd expect someone more properly equipped. But who know how they pull this stuff off.

Much, much stranger tweet from Cernovich here:


Yesterday @Ali called me and sounded insane. He kept telling me to stay away from El Paso.

He’s a good friend so I let him vent, or so it seemed.

After today, his story was confirmed.


I don't know wtf is going on. But it's not good.

Manifesto here.

Blogger cecilhenry August 03, 2019 3:54 PM  

People getting upset about the invasion and destruction of their nation and community??

No way.

Blogger buwaya August 03, 2019 4:05 PM  

qanon posted a 24 hour false flag alert July 30.
Off by three days or so, but close.

Blogger Noah B. August 03, 2019 4:05 PM  

Manifesto link on Twitter above is already dead. Here it is on 8ch.

Blogger Raker_T August 03, 2019 4:12 PM  

@11 "manifesto here" Twitter: "sorry, that page doesn't exist". Who would be surprised if the manifesto contained a conspiracy theory? Well, I guess that if you're going to have agencies to protect you, you'd want them to have really keen insight.

Blogger Bobiojimbo August 03, 2019 4:14 PM  

I only skimmed the manifesto. Has any other manifesto included a reasoning, or paragraph, on their weapon selection? Smells like gun control bait to me.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 03, 2019 4:23 PM  

Fake manifesto was in position and ready. Charlottesville effect 2.0. NPCs won't see the correction nor hear of it.
While leftists will insist that the founders did not envision autoloading guns during the creation of 2A, the way the media uses 1A should be up for review. But we have to wait out the Muh Free Speech boomers and hope there is anything left when the last boomer is finally smothered by a west African caretaker.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 4:28 PM  

And there has been an update on the Gilroy shooting. The coroner has declared that, contrary to what the police claimed, he died by a self-inflicted gunshot.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/02/gilroy-garlic-festival-shooter-santino-william-legan-killed-himself-coroner/

Perhaps he used the same gun the Vegas shooter used to shoot himself.

Blogger Noah B. August 03, 2019 4:29 PM  

Of course there's no good reason to assume that the manifesto is genuine or the official story is correct. With the FBI now equating conspiracy theories with domestic terrorism, it only creates the impression that the deep state is increasingly desperate because their lies are less and less credible. The truth fears no investigation.

Blogger Ska_Boss August 03, 2019 4:32 PM  

You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 4:33 PM  

I guess these guys are trying to prove that the AR-15 is not the most popular rifle for mass shootings!

Or, perhaps the Russians did it!

Blogger Jed Mask August 03, 2019 4:35 PM  

Horrible tragedy!

May God be with all the families of the victims of this terrible shooting...

May our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims' families and all parties involved. Amen.

~ Bro. Jed

Blogger Clay August 03, 2019 4:42 PM  

We gotta have us a manifesto.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 03, 2019 4:45 PM  

Ska_Boss wrote:You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.

Why would you think that? Texas gun laws are fair to middling.

Blogger Wolfman August 03, 2019 4:45 PM  

How many bullets do you need to shoot and wound 65 people?
How much would that weigh?
also this was Texas. Why weren't there a hell of a lot of bullets coming back the other way?

Blogger Raker_T August 03, 2019 4:49 PM  

Assuming for a minute that the conspiracy announcement and this incident are related, what does the timing mean? They're convinced that the public has a very short attention-concern span; so they have to run them together? Maybe they see people being red pilled in alarming numbers, so this means: "KEEP READING CONSPIRACY THEORIES, AND THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU."

Blogger Solemn Sentinel August 03, 2019 4:51 PM  

Most people at that Walmart are Mexican nationals, especially on a Saturday.

Blogger Clay August 03, 2019 4:53 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:Ska_Boss wrote:You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.

Why would you think that? Texas gun laws are fair to middling.


That's the truth. I used to hunt a lot in Texas. I was amazed to find that you couldn't carry a loaded gun in your vehicle.

Blogger Solemn Sentinel August 03, 2019 4:54 PM  

This one hits close to home, I have a family member that works at the nearby mall on occasion where there was a supposed second shooter, they're fine, but there SHOULD be some hell to pay for this.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 5:00 PM  

@25: So far the unconfirmed reports of killed and wounded is around 18.

Bonus: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/photos-and-name-of-alleged-walmart-shooter-posted-by-reporter/

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums August 03, 2019 5:05 PM  

Apparently anons are already using the shooting as an opportunity to troll. People aren't buying it anymore.

Taken from Jim's twitter:

https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1157753791615295490

https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1157751521238536192

Blogger Noah B. August 03, 2019 5:07 PM  

That's the truth. I used to hunt a lot in Texas. I was amazed to find that you couldn't carry a loaded gun in your vehicle.

In Texas it's been legal to carry a loaded gun in your car without a permit for about 10-15 years now.

Blogger Clay August 03, 2019 5:10 PM  

Thanks, Noah...I suppose I didn't keep up with all the Texas state laws.

Blogger Warunicorn August 03, 2019 5:11 PM  

Wearing eye and ear protection?

So I guess the guy wanted to make sure safety was top priority? This story is already bizarre.

Blogger Wolfman August 03, 2019 5:12 PM  

CNN Producer following shooter on twitter.
https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1157755611309912077

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 03, 2019 5:12 PM  

That's not the shooter. It's a /pol/ joke, that's Sam Hyde.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 5:21 PM  

In Texas you could always carry a long gun. In high school they were in gun tracks in the school parking lot. Pistols were carried in cars under the three county rule which everyone who had a pistol invoked.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 03, 2019 5:23 PM  

@36 Snidely, he can't keep getting away with it.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 5:24 PM  

I am in Texas at work right now and 80% of the vehicles in the parking lot have a pistol in them. Too few people carry in the heat of summer due to the heat They are carrying now

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 5:27 PM  

Most people at that Wal Mart are Mexicans and won't be carrying. After this gun owners will be loaded for bear in Texas

Blogger Blastmaster August 03, 2019 5:28 PM  

The Goyim know, shut it down!

Blogger P Glenrothes August 03, 2019 5:33 PM  

The Gilroy shooter was a devoted follower of Satan, hated white people, grew up in an ultra liberal community and was 19 years old, yet the official narrative is about guns. No mention of Antifa from any of the media whores.

Blogger Robert What? August 03, 2019 5:35 PM  

The media only reports that they are White with out pointing out they are almost exclusively leftists and Trump haters

Blogger OneWingedShark August 03, 2019 5:37 PM  

Ska_Boss wrote:You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.
No, what you don't understand is that Texas is all about branding; they're all hat and no cattle, they talk big and do nothing. They're the Republican party of the states, and if the Texas-attitude were made flesh it would be a Boomer.

Chris Mallory wrote:Ska_Boss wrote:You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.
Why would you think that? Texas gun laws are fair to middling.

Because he fell for the PR/branding.

Wolfman wrote:How many bullets do you need to shoot and wound 65 people?
Depends on the caliber, the powder-load [velocity], and how closely packed people are — if, for example, you shot a single .45 semi-randomly down a crowded hallway I would be unsurprised to see three people wounded.

Fuzzums Wuzzums wrote:Apparently anons are already using the shooting as an opportunity to troll. People aren't buying it anymore.
Sometimes you just gotta love those guys.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 5:42 PM  

Seven days between the shooting. The Deep State is getting worried ...

Blogger IrishFarmer August 03, 2019 5:43 PM  

Does anyone remember when I predicted this shooting last week in the comment section of this very blog? How was I able to do that? Well I was watching the news and I noticed if you add up numbers appearing on the screen they equal the numeric equivalent of "Q", so obviously this is all part of the secret three year long plan that involves giving our enemies massive, and seemingly permanent wins while we plan a coup that would reasonably involve a complete reversal of hundreds of years of the governing philosophy of this country. And you can trust me because I predicted this shooting.

If you dont get what I'm talking about then read anonymous conservative where he features a screen grab of someone adding up numbers on some MSNBC show which supposedly feature hidden messages from Qanon. And also note that its claimed he has some secret inside knowledge because he was able to "predict" the weekly active shooter event.

But mostly, I just want to say that Im on the record as having predicted this shooting.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 03, 2019 5:45 PM  

But nobody cares any more. It happens and a few morons like Bro. Jed make "isn't it a shame noises", then everyone goes on with their lives and kinda forgets.

Symptoms of overplaying your tactic.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 5:53 PM  

I dunno if RT is trolling or not, but they reported this:

Meanwhile, a relative of a shooting witness told KTSM-TV that the shooter was raving about “gamer revolution” – a reference to an obscure online meme – during the rampage.

Blogger Karen took the Kids August 03, 2019 5:53 PM  

@IrishFarmer

*"But mostly, I just want to say that Im on the record as having predicted this shooting."*

Are we in the presence of a secret king?

Blogger lowercaseb August 03, 2019 5:54 PM  

I have a friend that lives in El Paso. When I asked him for the 411 he told me this:

"The Walmart, Sam's and mall is the most visited place in El Paso. That Walmart is Juárez' favorite."

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 5:56 PM  

Plenty of armed people in Texas just not at a Wal Mart on the Mexiczn border.

Blogger Ska_Boss August 03, 2019 5:58 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:Ska_Boss wrote:You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.

No, what you don't understand is that Texas is all about branding; they're all hat and no cattle, they talk big and do nothing. They're the Republican party of the states, and if the Texas-attitude were made flesh it would be a Boomer.

Chris Mallory wrote:Ska_Boss wrote:You know Texas is fallen when a killer isn't immediately shot by a random passerby.

Why would you think that? Texas gun laws are fair to middling.


Because he fell for the PR/branding.

Wolfman wrote:How many bullets do you need to shoot and wound 65 people?

Depends on the caliber, the powder-load [velocity], and how closely packed people are — if, for example, you shot a single .45 semi-randomly down a crowded hallway I would be unsurprised to see three people wounded.

Fuzzums Wuzzums wrote:Apparently anons are already using the shooting as an opportunity to troll. People aren't buying it anymore.

Sometimes you just gotta love those guys.


I find that stereotypes are mostly based in reality.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 5:59 PM  

I predict the shooter will be linked to Nixon...

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 6:02 PM  

@53: Nope. They will try hard to link him to Trump.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 03, 2019 6:02 PM  

Aurelius Gomez wrote:After this gun owners will be loaded for bear in Texas

Barn doors, horses...

Blogger Tars Tarkas August 03, 2019 6:06 PM  

Assuming it really was a "white supreme-ist," the mainstream media hates him way more than random mestizos sucking on the free air-conditioning in the local mall or Walmart.

Why do these morons almost always target sympathetic people like seniors in a house of worship or even Walmart shoppers? If you are going to throw your life away on a useless act of terrorism, may as well put some effort into it.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 6:07 PM  

The common thread between these two shooting is the large number of Hispanics at those venues.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 6:09 PM  

Not the barn door and horses for the next shooter who chooses the wrong venue. In my church there are multiple mean and women packing

Blogger sammibandit August 03, 2019 6:20 PM  

But presumably the yellow urea potatoes are safe.

Blogger sammibandit August 03, 2019 6:24 PM  

The Texans who come to Alberta don't even sound like they're praire-dried. By that I mean hoarse-voiced from being in dry air. It's kind of funny hearing their accents. Ontarians sound more outdoorsy than they are.

Texas Czechs are a bit more rough around the edges, though. I guess Texas was the first stop in the Americas for many Czechs post 1968. Very salt-of-the-earth.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 6:31 PM  

Adriana and her two children were inside near the cash register when the shooting started. She says she saw 3 or 4 men in black as shooters.

https://twitter.com/i_p_a_1/status/1157729513008259074

Looks more and more like a false flag with another patsy.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 03, 2019 6:59 PM  

Ska_Boss wrote:I find that stereotypes are mostly based in reality.
Maybe, at one time, Texas really was something... but if we're honest they've been Castrati for at least twenty years, probably closer to thirty.

To illustrate how ineffectual and all-talk Texas is, let me remind you of the Border Crisis of some years ago -- the one with Ted Cruz and Glenn Beck going to give Teddy Bears to the kids -- and how the governor called up the National Guard... and then didn't do anything with them: it was all a PR stunt, they didn't even have access to ammunition.

And, before you say "he doesn't have that power" let me draw your attention to TX Constitution:
Art 4, Sec. 7. — GOVERNOR AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF MILITARY FORCES.
He shall be Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of the State, except when they are called into actual service of the United States. He shall have power to call forth the militia to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and to repel invasions.

Get that? — “He shall have power to […] repel invasions.”

Blogger RCR_Chris August 03, 2019 7:06 PM  

Even if real, they've guaranteed that we're going to see blood against invaders, even if it isn't the Dept of [Foreign] Defense doing it.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 7:46 PM  

I guarantee you pull this in the wrong venue in Texas with the right attendees a shooter will be dropped in seconds. A Wal Mart on the border may be a gun free zone.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 7:47 PM  

I know dozens of men hoping for the opportunity

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 7:49 PM  

No one at the Wal Mart fired back because no one had guns.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 03, 2019 7:54 PM  

A Wal Mart on the border is not a hotbed of Texas Patriots

Blogger Calvin809 August 03, 2019 8:02 PM  

We won't ever know what really happened.

Blogger Patrick Kelly August 03, 2019 8:03 PM  

"That's the truth. I used to hunt a lot in Texas. I was amazed to find that you couldn't carry a loaded gun in your vehicle."

That is not true. It is lawful per Texas state law to keep any loaded firearm in your vehicle which is otherwise lawful for you to posses. That includes a fully automatic, suppressed, short barreled rifle if you have the NFA paperwork.

I don't know who told you you couldn't, but they were misinformed or lying. Maybe it was rules for the particular lease or land you were hunting on, but there is no Texas state law prohibiting having a loaded firearm in your vehicle.

I have not seen any 06 signs at Walmarts near me in the ATX area, so CHL holders here could lawfully carry there. I don't know about this particular Walmart in El Paso. Maybe most of the usual clientele probably aren't lawful firearm owners, or have a CHL and carry. No-one shooting back has little to do with Texas firearms laws.

Blogger braq August 03, 2019 8:03 PM  

Walmarts are equipped with excellent store-wide overhead camera systems, so there should be plenty of footage for the cops to review. Just like Vegas.

Any links to the debunking of the manifesto?

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators August 03, 2019 8:09 PM  

Historical footage of Vox Day versus an NPC media figurehead in a show of strength (2019, Colorized)

Blogger Ingot9455 August 03, 2019 8:13 PM  

As it turns out, the Mall and the Wal-Mart are both gun-free zones posted by owner. (The holding company that runs the mall and the land on which the Wal-Mart sits.)

It looks like the nearest concealed carry person we know about was a black man at the Mall area, which is a parking lot away from the Wal-Mart where the shooting took place.

Blogger W. P. Harrison August 03, 2019 8:15 PM  

The manifesto reads poorly and seems written on the fly. That said, anyone have sources pointing to an official debunking? Most sources I’ve read are affirming its validity, and the author’s name matches the shooter’s.

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis August 03, 2019 8:32 PM  

The author of the so-called "manifesto" wrote "I'll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this" as it regards his rifle overheating. The purported shooter in the Wally-world surveillance camera pic isn't wearing any gloves. Either fake or he's one forgetful sperg.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 03, 2019 8:33 PM  

W. P. Harrison wrote:That said, anyone have sources pointing to an official debunking?
Anyone can cut and paste a name into a document. The original version floated on the chans this morning did not have the shooter's name.
Ask where it's from. All documents have a source. I will personally guarantee there is not source for thsi that cna be tied to the shooter.
Basically, somebody had this document ready to go, with a few blanks to be filled in.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 03, 2019 8:37 PM  

I'm no editor but I don't think it is all that badly written especially for a 21 year old in the twitter era.

He sounds less extremist than say Sen, Gilibrand or any other kook D party hack, who are the villains in America.

Of course he is himself a perp of evil who like a typical American rightist only enhanced the power of the Left with his actions.

Blogger Jamie-R August 03, 2019 8:37 PM  

Beto's district with a weapon Democrats want banned. Eye witnesses says wearing all black with a mask.

Blogger Mystic On Main August 03, 2019 8:44 PM  

"He sounds less extremist than say Sen, Gilibrand or any other kook D party hack, who are the villains in America."

Honestly, the manifesto sounds a good deal like many folks who comment on this blog. All signs point to this being an authentic event, from the pictures, to the confirmation of the boy's hometown to his social media posts to the manifesto's origin and content.

Either way, the boy is in custody and we are about to learn a great deal more about him.

20 people dead. 20 mothers, fathers, son's and daughters and sisters and brothers.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 8:45 PM  

Clearly, the Men in Black flashed their little pens in front of the officers' eyes ... but didn't manage to get to all the witnesses.

Blogger Ingot9455 August 03, 2019 8:47 PM  

@78 You probably mean a great deal less.

Blogger Vlad Z. August 03, 2019 8:48 PM  

They (SPLC) also have a picture of the name Trump spelled out with guns laying on a carpet, which they are somehow linking to the shooter.
They are Shameless.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 8:50 PM  

@81: Not only are they shameless, they are scum.

Blogger Jamie-R August 03, 2019 8:56 PM  

AFP immediately ran with the picture of law enforcement forming their response with the Owl insignia of Hooters in the background. Gotta feed Molech. Sacrifices have been made. I can't believe these retards are the ones we're dealing with. The media and popular culture keeps playing down Christianity and religion while they pimp their own symbolism in the background of events. Once people realise they get off on having people of influence spread this stuff, Christian Rock won't be the only lame belief spreaders. It's just that Christian Rock artists don't spread murder.

Blogger VD August 03, 2019 8:59 PM  

All signs point to this being an authentic event, from the pictures, to the confirmation of the boy's hometown to his social media posts to the manifesto's origin and content.

Especially the way eyewitnesses reported four gunmen dressed in black.

20 people dead. 20 mothers, fathers, son's and daughters and sisters and brothers.

Powerful virtue-signaling. You are a true hero. Thank you for your service.

Blogger Mystic On Main August 03, 2019 9:11 PM  

"All signs point to this being an authentic event, from the pictures, to the confirmation of the boy's hometown to his social media posts to the manifesto's origin and content."


'Especially the way eyewitnesses reported four gunmen dressed in black."

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/08/03/el-paso-shooter-identified-21-year-old-patrick-crusius-frisco/

Blogger Warunicorn August 03, 2019 9:11 PM  

"Honestly, the manifesto sounds a good deal like many folks who comment on this blog."

lolwut? GTFO, you fucking retard.

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators August 03, 2019 9:15 PM  

VD wrote:Powerful virtue-signaling. You are a true hero. Thank you for your service.

Vox, I am praying that God make you more and more like Hisoka from Hunter x Hunter every day. I want you to amputate your enemies by turning their arms into flower pedals with the grace of an illusionist and David Blane. But the amputation is real :)

You are the only man alive who knows what good is and does it. I fully finance and invest your revolution.

Blogger Ibelin August 03, 2019 9:20 PM  

Interestingly enough I haven't seen anyone in the media looking this to Trump already which leads me to believe they've already figured out it's a left-wing nut case that did this

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 9:25 PM  

@85: How cute. You are quoting the #LyingMSM.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 9:34 PM  

There is a concerted effort to link the shooting to Trump by claiming that his "manifesto" echos the same things heard at Trump rallies ...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/reports-el-paso-killer-patrick-crusius-left-anti-immigrant-manifesto-before-mass-killing-copy-of-manifesto/

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 03, 2019 9:40 PM  

Why wouldn't a fake manifesto sound like a nationalist blog? I would assume whoever made it cut and pasted or paraphased from such places. Tarrant's manifesto was obviously made that way, whether he did it or someone else did.

Either way, the boy is in custody and we are about to learn a great deal more about him.

Unlikely. These shooters always turn out to be problematic for the narrative in some way. Not white enough, not Trump-supporting enough, or having other awkward opinions, like the New Zealand shooter being an environmentalist. More likely we won't hear another thing about him, just talk about what kind of person the media imagines would do this.

20 people dead. 20 mothers, fathers, son's and daughters and sisters and brothers.

Son's what?

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 03, 2019 9:43 PM  

Walmarts are festooned with cameras.

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 9:46 PM  

Walmarts are festooned with cameras.

What's the bet they had an outage or the videos somehow got corrupted?

Blogger Ingot9455 August 03, 2019 9:52 PM  

@92 @93 There's usually a comment in here about how the FBI swoops in and takes all the evidence before any copies are made.

Blogger Jamie-R August 03, 2019 10:08 PM  

The mentally ill man plays it up for the cctv, the clown ops are more careful and do most of the damage then disappear fast. Sometimes it's special ops sometimes it's organised crime ala JFK but there's ALWAYS a patsy. Which you can do with what you want in the media.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 03, 2019 10:10 PM  

That manifesto is barely above civnattery

Blogger D. August 03, 2019 10:11 PM  

>
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31 Jul 2019 - 12:41:49 AM
[24hr Warning]
Be vigilant.
See something.
Say something.
Know your surroundings at all times.
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Blogger PG August 03, 2019 10:11 PM  

Reported here in NZ 7hrs ago, but only hit social media news in last hour. General comments include, outrage against Americans for linking it to Christchurch, anger at Yanks right to bear arms, anger at our disarmament, anger at Trump, love for Trump, and offers to send in our primeminister to give hugs and love, so nothing unusual.

Blogger ChicagoFire August 03, 2019 10:16 PM  

"Much, much stranger tweet from Cernovich here:


Yesterday @Ali called me and sounded insane. He kept telling me to stay away from El Paso.

He’s a good friend so I let him vent, or so it seemed.

After today, his story was confirmed."

You all should watch Ali's periscope. I'll give you a teaser DO NOT go to the Antifa event in El Paso. I will make a bold prediction that this warning will not be heeded and we will be in for some fireworks. Bone chilling.

Valid criticism of our president is ENOUGH tweeting and PLEASE designate antifa as a terrorist organization. We do not need that trash here.

My heart goes out to the dead and injured.

Blogger Joeplanet August 03, 2019 10:22 PM  

So do all slugs from the victims ballistically match the shooter’s single AK-47?

Let’s see the analysis.

Blogger PG August 03, 2019 10:23 PM  

Could this be a false flag flag?

One line in the Manifesto about previous colonization makes me suspicious of the motives behind the writer, whoever it is. But it could simply be my bias at work.

Blogger W. P. Harrison August 03, 2019 10:51 PM  

Interesting, didn’t know about the later edition. Thanks for the info.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 03, 2019 10:58 PM  

Y'all know THE MANUFESTO IS A FAKE, right?

Blogger Crew August 03, 2019 10:58 PM  

Yup.

Blogger Jamie-R August 03, 2019 11:24 PM  

https://twitter.com/paul_furber/status/1157781637658292231?s=20

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 03, 2019 11:50 PM  

It appears the Luke Ford crowd is completely buying the narrative. Whole hog.

Blogger lowercaseb August 04, 2019 2:25 AM  

"Antifa is leading a "Border Resistance" militancy training tour that will converge on a 10-day siege in El Paso, TX"

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1155971069783621634/photo/1

@99 I see what you mean. This is C'ville part 2 being set up right in front of our eyes. Hopefully we can be smart enough to take the bait.

Blogger Unknown August 04, 2019 2:26 AM  

Looks like the clowns are busy tonight http://chillicotheguardian.com/2019/08/04/at-least-10-people-shot-in-dayton-active-shooter-situation-underway/

Blogger Pax_Romana August 04, 2019 2:58 AM  

A festival, a shopping mall, what appears to just be a street in Ohio (...at 0100 hours). I'm honestly surprised they didn't fit in a Mosque or Synagogue during Friday or Saturday, but I imagine there will be some "madman" at a more liberal Church tomorrow.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) August 04, 2019 3:43 AM  

shall i be surprised?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl12Lwsfq6o

Blogger PG August 04, 2019 4:16 AM  

Getting reports of another 'mass' shooting in Ohio.
Apparently, you guessed it, a white man with an AR.

Blogger cisbio August 04, 2019 4:24 AM  

Anybody who routinely ascribes these mass shooting events to false flag operation is not thinking seriously.

How many false flags is that now? I suppose events occurring during Obama’s administration could be ascribed to highest level of planning. What about the Trump administration? Who planned these latest attacks?

Doesn’t the cumulative effect of these false flags constitute a terror campaign against the US population by its own government - across numerous administrations? When is the ‘resistance’ going to rise up against this terror?

Blogger PG August 04, 2019 4:42 AM  

After watching the Cambridge Analytica staff (behavioural scientists), talk about their election behavioural intervention, I'd say government, no matter who is in, has an all is fair in love and war policy. Any resistance needs to know what weapons are in the game before they can rise up, and I don't think many people do. I remember finding out Obama has a behavioural analyst/scientist on staff, uh oh I thought, that's got to be bad. Then Trump gets in and hello he's got his own!

Blogger ChicagoFire August 04, 2019 4:48 AM  

Just woke up to hear of another mass shooting. Let me guess, Trump is inspiring white people to rise up?

I'll copy this quote from Roosh's forum since nobody here talks about how young men are growing up to the tune of nihilism:

"America has millions...hell, tens of millions.. of teenage boys

Who have been raised in a feminist society which despises them, and has told them over and over again that they are violent murdering killer males.

Of course these teenage boys believe what they have been trained to believe

That they are monsters

And, none of them can get laid, so they're full of rage-inducing hormones

And they can't get jobs, raise families, or have a future

Can't even get into the army any more. Can't even express their innate violence in the honorable field of battle.

If we hired a roomful of psychiatrists and asked them to intentionally create a program to generate a generation of terrorists

They could hardly have done better than what we now have

All of this created by the incalculable stupidity and dark evil of Feminism

The Gilroy/El Paso shooting is just the tiniest, smallest, beginning tip of the iceberg of what is coming for us, soon."

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73813-post-2007242.html#pid2007242

Blogger Gettimothy August 04, 2019 5:24 AM  

The mask slips.Rod Rosenstein calls it "White Terrorism" https://mobile.twitter.com/RodRosenstein/status/1157866152653197312



Gotta hand it to these guys. FBI field office issues report on danngerous Conspiracy Theories. Media jumps on it. Triggering op via FF. Media/Cuck outcry, politicians jump in, new enemy is created, othered and attempted focus on.

20 years ago, we would of bought this crap.

So this is how cabal operates. So smart!! very feasible among a high trust nation!

now we see them. not so smart, rather lame and cowardly. welcome to 4 g war.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica August 04, 2019 5:51 AM  

All cabal has to do is arrange a few more shootings like this and they may turn the tide on opposition to gun control among the normies. This has all the hallmarks of a desperate Hail Mary pass, but sometimes those passes connect. You just can't underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of the average network TV viewer...

Blogger CostelloM August 04, 2019 6:21 AM  

You see I’m a boomer... and I believe everything I see on TV. We need gun control and Israel and Crowder. How dare all of you! And when this latest shooter offs himself in a jail cell with no witnesses I’ll believe that too, cause I’m a boomer.

Blogger Rick August 04, 2019 7:08 AM  

Once upon a time, we demanded to know why.
Then they invented the manifesto.

Here’s my guess re the motive of this FF.
They don’t like us thinking the word invasion.

Blogger Beardy Bear August 04, 2019 7:20 AM  

@OP "... Again. I understand that eyewitness reports in stressful situations are intrinsically unreliable..."

After listening to story after story from shooting after shooting, and reconciling it with military meta, it may be unreliable but it's all very consistent. These are all public places riddled with cameras, yet there is never footage.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 04, 2019 7:21 AM  

The Left and the cucks have a good gig, they taunt whites, demean whites and discriminate heavily against whites then limit the debate to how you must basically accept your low caste status or you are a "racist" and since "racist" is the most powerful word ever invented here we are.

Then this crap happens and frankly it does little but demoralize our side even more and then the taunts begin again and the cycle continues.

The political rhetoric of "discrimination", "equality" and "justice" is ours, but of course our side is composed of mainly arm flapping conservative autists figuratively and literally who spend more time fact checking our enemies than making a moral case for our very existence.

Blogger The Cooler August 04, 2019 7:32 AM  

Eye protection...

Ear protection...

Doesn't fully computer, especially the ear protection.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 04, 2019 7:55 AM  

sammibandit wrote:The Texans who come to Alberta don't even sound like they're praire-dried. By that I mean hoarse-voiced from being in dry air. It's kind of funny hearing their accents. Ontarians sound more outdoorsy than they are.

You do realize that a large part of the US is semi tropical or tropical with humidity levels over 70%?
We only have dry air a month or two in the winter.

Blogger Gettimothy August 04, 2019 7:57 AM  

@ibelin Look under Rod Rosenstein's Twitter feed. I posted a link elsewhere in the comments. "Stochastic Terrorism" is Their term

Blogger Glacierman August 04, 2019 8:27 AM  

Unless you're taking directions from someone.

Blogger Avalanche August 04, 2019 8:40 AM  

@29 "but there SHOULD be some hell to pay for this."

There WILL be; but WE will be the ones who will be paying it.

Blogger VD August 04, 2019 8:43 AM  

All cabal has to do is arrange a few more shootings like this and they may turn the tide on opposition to gun control among the normies.

No, they won't. All they're accomplishing is increasing the opposition to gun-free zones.

Blogger Blake's Seven August 04, 2019 8:51 AM  

These latest shootings are most likely false flags, and fake at that. There is one angle that may be relevant. The shootings are at the biggest food outlet in the US, at a time when shortages from the Grand Solar Minimum are beginning to bite. Apart from other motives, could it be that a Walmart was specifically chosen for this exercise in order to divert attention away from the shortages of corn products, peas and beans, etc?

Blogger doctrev August 04, 2019 8:52 AM  

Do you uncritically swallow the propaganda about mass shootings being done by lonely white nationalists? Then you deserve whatever happens to you next. I'd far rather trust Alex Jones, Rt.com, or the literal Easter Bunny to report on mass shootings before the alphabet networks. The idea that Wal-Mart and Las Vegas have no cameras but the one backing the government story, and no one returning fire against a lone gunman at a Texas Wal-Mart, is too risible to be taken seriously.

Blogger Salt August 04, 2019 9:05 AM  

"He later told investigators he wanted to shoot as many Mexicans as possible, two law enforcement officials told ABC News."

Mexicans? Isn't that a synonym for invaders?

Blogger Whitecloak August 04, 2019 9:07 AM  

Oh, did anyone see this? Apparently there was a Parkland family nearby just when this was happening, ready to shill for gun control.

https://www.ktsm.com/news/parents-of-teen-killed-at-parkland-was-in-el-paso-during-walmart-shooting/

Blogger The Cooler August 04, 2019 9:11 AM  

Well ain't that a coinkydink.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 04, 2019 9:16 AM  

We're one Ivanka sadface and an OK from Jared for Trump to do that one thing to cost him 2020.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 04, 2019 9:34 AM  

All cabal has to do is arrange a few more shootings like this and they may turn the tide on opposition to gun control among the normies.

If it were that easy, our guns would already be gone. All it does is harden the determination of normie American gun owners not to give an inch. For the last couple years, the blue cities have been bragging about how as soon as they get the White House back they're going to send the military to subdue and disarm the red states, so the leftists can come in behind them and score easy kills. It's way too late for the "Oh, we just want to make everyone a little safer" act.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 04, 2019 9:41 AM  

Why would the targets of such an evil propaganda campaign as us untouchable whites give up their guns? Many of the conservative dopes are falling into the usual recital of facts and figures and all that we have heard one billion times, but my answer to the people who hate me and want me disarmed is a hearty "F*ck You."

Blogger van helsing August 04, 2019 9:51 AM  

nice rundown of fakery at anon con this morning. lets see. kid's therapist father was jewish apparently (interesting pics online). connected to john of god (fraud). their online presences are being scrubbed... kid's myspace page was just converted D to R. multiple shooters and witnesses to that. may not be his kid but... anomalies in the manifesto... he's an environmentalist (tilt). not a gun guy (tilt). el paso is dimrat controlled, btw. lets hear about the killing in cedar park, folks... or ohio. this is going to be a multiple times weekly thang... oh and i almost forgot - this "thing" may not have happened in EP or at a walmart. there was film/pics including STOP painted on the concrete in the traffic lane outside the store. seems only YIELD is painted on the pavement at EP walmarts (8chan). i guess ya cant get the best talent off of craigslist.

Blogger Joe August 04, 2019 9:53 AM  

"With the FBI now equating conspiracy theories with domestic terrorism, it only creates the impression that the deep state is increasingly desperate because their lies are less and less credible. The truth fears no investigation."

It causes one to wonder when the shooter is going to be a climate change or moon denier.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 04, 2019 10:40 AM  

kid's therapist father was jewish apparently (interesting pics online).

As I said yesterday, we won't hear any more from the MSM about his background. Just as we won't hear any more about the garlic festival shooter, and we haven't heard any more about Tarrant or last year's synagogue shooter or the would-be media bomber. They never fit the narrative, because they're fake, nuts, or have problematic opinions or connections.

Blogger Mystic On Main August 04, 2019 10:43 AM  

Nearly three dozen dead and more injured in less than 24 hours at the hands of young white men. This cohort includes some pretty desperate individuals who's self forth is wrapped up in some sort of unattainable fantasy they see on TV, a desire for notoriety and a weird and desperate belief they can impact society via murder. That's a tough nut to crack.

The idea that these shootings are false flags is simply unprovable and equally desperate. The more appropriate response is prayer, doing what you can to keep your family safe, and considering alternatives to continuing to support the current culture.

Blogger Stilicho August 04, 2019 10:56 AM  

"The idea that these shootings are false flags is simply unprovable and equally desperate. "

"I'm a Boomer and we invented false flags, so I know that there's no such thing! Dammit, we put a man on the moon! How dare you disagree with the Narrative!"

Blogger Taqiyyotomist August 04, 2019 10:56 AM  

@135 Van Helsing

Just used Google Earth, at the Cielo Vista Mall Wal-Mart, Street View and satellite, to try and find the "stop" on the pavement that is in both CCTV pics. It's not there, nor does there exist a stop line, anywhere near either entrance, let alone right outside the door. Try as I might, I can't match the images from CCTV with the street-view images, taken 4/19 by Google. Fascinating.

Also fascinating are the cargo pants vs. khaki slacks arrest images. Equally fascinating is how similar this guy looks, down to the very eyeglass frames, to the Garlic Festival shooter. Not the same guy, but creepily twin-like.

Blogger Gettimothy August 04, 2019 11:00 AM  

Desperate my ass. We see the same patterns repeat. We know empirically the deep state exists. We know from history, hello 1914,that a committed cabal of 6000 brought down Christian govt in Russia.
We know they are murderous, that we are vermin to them

Either you are incapable of simple pattern recognition or you are yourself subverted.

Yes pray that God open your eyes. Barnhardt has more balls than you.That should chill you.
.

Blogger Crew August 04, 2019 11:01 AM  

Julian Castro tells us it's all Trump's fault!

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/08/04/julian-castro-shootings-a-consequence-of-trump-fanning-the-flames-of-hate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29

Blogger Stilicho August 04, 2019 11:01 AM  

Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
31 Jul 2019 - 12:41:49 AM
[24hr Warning]
Be vigilant.
See something.
Say something.
Know your surroundings at all times.
Q<


Yep. I saw that earlier this week. I wonder what is coming that the Narrative mongers felt the need for multiple false flags/MK Ultras to distract us or to confuse the issues?

Blogger Ingot9455 August 04, 2019 11:04 AM  

@127 We don't have any shortages yet. If anything, we have too much agricultural product at the moment and are struggling to sell it to China. Yes, weather patterns for a year may make this or that slightly more or less scarce, but here in America, go to a normal, non-super-elite grocery store and tell me what they're out of.

Blogger Mystic On Main August 04, 2019 11:16 AM  

"Desperate my ass"

Yes. Desperate. There is a job to do in this country and counting on False Flag claims to do it for you isn't going to get you where you need to be.

Blogger Crew August 04, 2019 11:19 AM  

The manifesto in a searchable and copyable form:

https://www.europeanfreedom.com/2019/08/04/the-inconvenient-truth-the-manifesto-of-el-paso-walmart-shooter-patrick-crusius/

The closest I can come to defining him is that he is an environmentalist:

The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades.

Blogger Crew August 04, 2019 11:22 AM  

Whoa. This must be a unique manifesto because it refers to Dr Seuss' The Lorax.

I have changed my mind. He is a troll!

The Lorax is a children's book written by Dr. Seuss and first published in 1971.[1] It chronicles the plight of the environment and the Lorax is the titular character, who "speaks for the trees" and confronts the Once-ler, who causes environmental degradation.

Blogger Gettimothy August 04, 2019 11:41 AM  

We are not relying on them. We are observing them. You are not leading, you are as behind the curve as Dreher.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 04, 2019 11:54 AM  

Ingot9455 wrote:@127 We don't have any shortages yet. If anything, we have too much agricultural product at the moment and are struggling to sell it to China. Yes, weather patterns for a year may make this or that slightly more or less scarce, but here in America, go to a normal, non-super-elite grocery store and tell me what they're out of.

The local Wal Mart has had signs up in the canned vegetable area for a month or so stating there were "shortages" and asking customers to excuse the empty shelves.

The flooding this spring/summer should cut down on some of the surplus corn and soybeans. Southern Illinois has fields that were unable to be planted due to flood waters that were still standing less than two weeks ago.

Blogger Avalanche August 04, 2019 12:07 PM  

@138 "The more appropriate response is prayer, doing what you can to keep your family safe, and considering alternatives to continuing to support the current culture."

Riiight. So, you pray to God that you and your family are never ever in a WalMart when some controlled nutcase is set up to kill folks -- but if God is busy elsewhere, you and your family get on your knees and pray REALLY hard -- right up until the nutcase shoots you all dead.

HOW can you NOT SEE that "prayer" is NOT protection! God helps those who help themselves, does He not? SHEEP are for culling. If you want your family to be sheep -- if you want to be a sheep! -- then you will be turned into chops. Pray all you want, but ALSO arm up and be ready to act to defend the people your were put in CHARGE of protecting!

Blogger dienw August 04, 2019 12:08 PM  

...could it be that a Walmart was specifically chosen for this exercise in order to divert attention away from the shortages of [wheat], corn products, peas and beans, etc?

Good question. But then, how many Americans understand that the severe winter storms and rains resulted in the ground being still snow covered at what should have been planting time or being to too wet to plant: from my reading, the spring wheat(used for bread) crop was not planted planted; the hard wheat was not planted; corn was planted half way into its season and will not fully mature. Furthermore, if one were to inform them that these weather events - which were timed so precisely - were caused by HAARP activity, they respond to you as if you were telling fairy tales.

Blogger dienw August 04, 2019 12:10 PM  

God helps those who help themselves, does He not?

No, He protects his own: those who have put their trust in him. You are quoting a lie that began during the Enlightenment.

Blogger Avalanche August 04, 2019 12:11 PM  

@144 "go to a normal, non-super-elite grocery store and tell me what they're out of."

"I have it today, so I will have it forever. Nothing EVER changes! Certainly not the climate and the amount of arable land!" That explains why there is never a shortage of anything! Cause if there's enough right now, there will always BE enough.

Maybe go get educated about the oncoming ice age, instead of believing the MSM, the govt and the "scientists" who have to scream global warm ... er ... climate change ... in order to keep their phony-baloney jobs!

Blogger dienw August 04, 2019 12:16 PM  

@135. van helsing

I saw that. The father's Twitter page is/was being followed by Marianne Williamson one of the Democrats running. They both practice the same sort of holistic, "spiritual" psychology.

Blogger Duh-ave August 04, 2019 12:20 PM  

Somethings wrong with the "food shortage" narrative. Granted the spring potato crop was allegedly (no potato shortage here) hurt out west but how does failed crops that wouldn't be harvested until fall cause a shortage of food that was canned last year? Is everything a lie now?

Blogger Ingot9455 August 04, 2019 12:21 PM  

@153 Please. I'm well aware of droughts, floods, and weather; plus land exhaustion, overuse of chemicals, and so on. Plus we are definitely in the middle of the 30-35 year cooling cycle.
I'm just saying that the time is not now. The country has many different areas and we are not going to run out of bread this year.

Blogger Avalanche August 04, 2019 12:23 PM  

@152 "No, He protects his own: those who have put their trust in him."

Interesting reply -- so, no matter how fervent a woman is, how completely she is a good Christian, how much she put her trust the lord, how pleadingly she calls out to God for help; if she is raped, you would call that 100%-proof that somehow that she did NOT put her trust in the Lord?!

Wow. Helluva broad brush you're using there! All those folks rocking out in a Las Vegas parking lot concert are now PROVEN to not be "God's own"? The many many thousands of young kids "we" sent into the sandboxes to kill "our" enemies -- or is that God's enemies? -- who either did not come home or came home maimed and/or destroyed? Yeah, they didn't "put their trust" in the Lord? Or did they do it wrong? Or not enough? Or ???? what?

My late husband's first wife always gave him crap for carrying. He asked her how she intended to protect herself from attack. She told him -- and apparently believed -- that if she were attacked, God would send a host of angels to protect her. Funny how that NEVER EVER EVER HAPPENS.

Platitudes cannot ever be the answer!

Blogger AndyK August 04, 2019 12:33 PM  

@119 "These are all public places riddled with cameras, yet there is never footage."

Those who control the cameras control the footage. You will only see what they want you to see.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 04, 2019 12:45 PM  

"Anybody who routinely ascribes these mass shooting events to false flag operation is not thinking seriously."

Coincidentally, anyone implementing false flags would be expected to do so according to a routine as well, fag.

"Doesn’t the cumulative effect of these false flags constitute a terror campaign against the US population by its own government - across numerous administrations?"

https://infogalactic.com/info/The_Report_from_Iron_Mountain

Real? Dunno, but it's both logically sound and an obvious direction of thought, so there's got to be a real version somewhere regardless.

"you would call that 100%-proof that somehow that she did NOT put her trust in the Lord?!"

You must have decided your values in order to pose this question seriously. However, you've nothing to base them on according to your professed beliefs. So, you pretending that you know anything about trust or its consequences is in bad faith before you even asked that question.

Blogger Gettimothy August 04, 2019 12:52 PM  

His own, like Phineas, Charles Martel, Joan of Arc (who the churchians of the day had burned at the stake)

Blogger Stilicho August 04, 2019 2:02 PM  

"Yes. Desperate. There is a job to do in this country and counting on False Flag claims to do it for you isn't going to get you where you need to be."

All kidding aside, no one is expecting a false flag to "do" any work. But you'd better recognize the pattern for your own safety and to help anticipate what's coming. A few years ago your attitude would be understandable. It no longer applies though. Too many data points. The pattern is there. You are engaging in a category error. By all means, tend to you and yours... but part of that is preparation for what may come your way.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 04, 2019 3:06 PM  

The US government currently pays farmers not to farm 24 million acres through the Conservation Reserve Program. That's arable land that was previously in crops, not wetlands or desert, and it's not the only such program, just the largest one. We also waste a lot of the best farmland by growing corn for ethanol on it instead of food.

There is no food shortage in the USA and won't be, unless a serious war cuts off shipping routes.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) August 04, 2019 4:03 PM  

140. Taqiyyotomist August 04, 2019 10:56 AM
Try as I might, I can't match the images from CCTV with the street-view images, taken 4/19 by Google. Fascinating.


these may or may not mean anything. sometimes Google views can be years out of date, i know this from properties that i am familiar with.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 04, 2019 4:06 PM  

Avalanche wrote:HOW can you NOT SEE that "prayer" is NOT protection! God helps those who help themselves, does He not? SHEEP are for culling. If you want your family to be sheep

You really need to read your Bible.
God helps those who admit they are helpless and put their faith in Him.

Christians are repeatedly called "sheep" in the New Testament.

Daniel in the Lion's den. The three in the fiery furnace. Even David against Goliath. Their own works were useless. It took faith in God to save them.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 04, 2019 4:13 PM  

Avalanche wrote:Funny how that NEVER EVER EVER HAPPENS.

How do you know?
There is never a thug about to attack a woman when a group of men walk out of the bar between them so the thug makes other plans? The thug never trips while trying to attack, allowing the victim to get away? Or a million other "happenstances" that could very well be the Lord God working to protect his own.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2019 5:00 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:How do you know?
Don't bother. It's an article of her faith.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 04, 2019 6:27 PM  

Avalanche, God let His own son be brutally tortured and murdered, to save your soul and mine. Faith will save your soul. It's not going to save your body, unless that suits God's purpose.

Jesus died, so will you. Why would any believer expect better than that?

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