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Wednesday, August 21, 2019

Devil Mouse shenanigans

It's not just the fake box office receipts. The Devil Mouse is playing fast and loose with its park revenues as well:
Marketwatch reports that Sandra Kuba, who was a senior financial analyst in Disney’s revenue-operations department, alleges that employees working in the parks-and-resorts business segment systematically overstated revenue by billions of dollars by exploiting weaknesses in the company’s accounting software.

Kuba, who worked for Disney for 18 years said she has met with officials from the Securities and Exchange Commission on several occasions to discuss the allegations, according to Marketwatch. She said she brought her concerns to the SEC in August 2017 and was fired from Disney about a month later....

Disney’s parks-and-resorts business consists of its amusement parks around the world, including the Disney World resort in Orlando and Disneyland in Anaheim.

MarketWatch said it has reviewed the whistleblower’s filings, which outline several ways employees allegedly boosted revenue, including recording fictitious revenue for complimentary golf rounds or for free guest promotions.

Another alleged act involved recording revenue for $500 gift cards at their face value even when guests paid a discounted rate of $395.

The whistleblower filing alleges that in just one financial year, from 2008 to 2009, Disney’s annual revenue could have been overstated by as much as $6 billion, according to the report.

Since leaving Disney, Kuba has reportedly made two additional whistleblower filings. The most recent tip alleges that some Disney employees reclassified guest revenue from high-sales-tax items such as hotel rooms to lower-taxed items, such as food and beverages, in order to reduce sales tax liabilities in Florida, California, and Hawaii.

Marketwatch said Kuba filed a whistleblower-retaliation complaint with the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration in October 2017. Disney replied that Kuba’s employment was terminated because “she displayed a pattern of workplace complaints against co-workers without a reasonable basis for doing so, in a manner that was inappropriate, disruptive and in bad faith.”

While the SEC receives several thousand tips a year, the vast majority of which amount to nothing, one former SEC attorney said that the government appears to be taking the complaint against Disney seriously. “The fact that the SEC has asked for more information more than once and conducted interviews suggests an inquiry is underway,” Jordan A. Thomas, a former attorney in the SEC’s enforcement division, told Marketwatch.
Disney isn't just an evil, anti-Christian, anti-American organization, it is also a criminal enterprise. As the credit boom evaporates, more than a few Enrons are going to be uncovered and evaporate. Netflix and the Devil Mouse are likely to be two of the corpocracies exposed, although the value of the intellectual property that the latter holds means that it will survive in some fashion, although not necessarily as a singular entity.

Netflix, on the other hand, will simply disappear into the graveyard of forgotten corporatations.

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111 Comments:

Blogger Gregory the Great August 21, 2019 7:24 AM  

Glassdoor Review of the 13th of August:
Aug 13, 2019
Disney Parks & Resorts Logo
"Sales"
Current Employee - Anonymous Employee
No opinion of CEO

I have been working at Disney Parks & Resorts

Pros

Good benefits- park entrance/cast programs Disney brand and innovation

Cons

You are just a number Mangers will lie to you and just relay what’s flowing down from the top Promote a culture of bottom line matters more then doing what is right

Blogger Matrick August 21, 2019 7:24 AM  

Do you have a rough prediction for when this will happen?

Blogger Daniel August 21, 2019 7:26 AM  

This makes me wonder if the hits on problem assets like Cameron Boyce serve a third purpose in addition to the ritual and trafficking cover-up.

Blogger Varuna August 21, 2019 7:27 AM  

Netflix will go down.

Disney will retract, they will return to making Princess movies & cartoons cause the MCU will start bombing, PG-13 Blade & Black Widow will suck ass.

Star Wars is a boomer thing, they were the ones who bought all the stupid Star Wars toys, new gens are way more fond of anime & video games.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 21, 2019 7:30 AM  

Anyone who doubts the American Dream of Magic Dirt is a White Supremacist. Might as well get out ahead of the fire and burn off the fuel while we can.

Blogger VD August 21, 2019 7:31 AM  

Star Wars is a boomer thing.

No, it was a Gen-X thing. That's why it is bombing now. Gen-X actually quits stuff. Boomers don't.

Blogger Varuna August 21, 2019 7:37 AM  

https://m.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/study-confirms-gen-x-are-just-boomers-who-like-star-wars/

Blogger RobertDWood August 21, 2019 7:45 AM  

Alternative hypothesis, Disney buys out an imploding Netflix because the mouse streaming system needs the infrastructure and subscription base?

Blogger Shimshon August 21, 2019 7:50 AM  

Meanwhile, the Wachowski brothers (the media calls them sisters, go figure) are now proceeding with The Matrix 4. I didn't realize Keanu was so hard up for money. He's returning as Neo.

Blogger Statix August 21, 2019 7:50 AM  

At least Disney is still concerned about the preserving the bottom line. There's a certain capitalist respectability in that, as opposed to an utterly converged corporation, whose sole purpose is to peddle leftist, racist, SJW propaganda.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 21, 2019 7:53 AM  

I'm Gen X, I love Star Wars, and I hate Disney for killing it. The very first memory I have of anything is seeing the commercial trailer on TV for Episode IV.

Blogger basementhomebrewer August 21, 2019 7:53 AM  

People who lie and deceive in every piece of entertainment they produce are lying and deceiving when it comes to the health of their business? Quelle Suprise!

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 21, 2019 7:55 AM  

Hopefully this will grease the skids on getting Bob Iger out the door.

Not that the man has any real intention of actually retiring but this combined with the disaster of Star Wars Galaxy's Edge may finally be the end for the old bastard.

I'd had hopes for Bob Chapek as successor. A crusty mid-westerner that Hollywood hates, like Walt himself.

Sadly, as head of Disney Parks this latest scandal combined with Galaxy's Edge will put him out of the running.

It's probably going to be Kevin Mayer. (*long tired sigh*) Who looks to be another Bob Iger.

At least Kathleen Kennedy is completely out of the running.

Blogger Gregory the Great August 21, 2019 7:57 AM  

The way I understand it is
there were (and are) rogue employees who continuously overstated the revenue to increase their personal bonuses - a common practice whenever corporations have the wrong incentives in place. That on the other hand would have driven up the tax burden as it would increase declared profits.

Then there were others who used the wrong VAT/sales tax brackets to drive taxes down - maybe there was a different kind of bonus for that...

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 21, 2019 7:59 AM  

RobertDWood wrote:Alternative hypothesis, Disney buys out an imploding Netflix because the mouse streaming system needs the infrastructure and subscription base?

Not sure they'd get anything they want out that one. They already own Hulu outright and they are opening Disney Plus in November.

By the time Netflix is vulnerable to a buyout it's going to be hip deep in financial scandals, that no one in their right mind will want to acquire along with the rest of the company.

Blogger ZhukovG August 21, 2019 8:06 AM  

@Varuna: That's almost as true as 10% being homosexual. And I suspect the claim is made for the same reason.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 21, 2019 8:07 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:I'm Gen X, I love Star Wars, and I hate Disney for killing it. The very first memory I have of anything is seeing the commercial trailer on TV for Episode IV.

Breaks my heart too.

The formula was simple enough, make an adventure something that appeals to little boys.

Yeah, that simple formula is now a hate crime.

Star Wars has always been (at least up until Disney bought it up) a boy friendly franchise.

You wanted to be either the cool smuggler or the laser sword wielding space samurai or the mysterious bounty hunter with no face or the super cool, all powerful bad guy with asthma.

No little boy wants to be some loser that follows a girl around like a lost puppy or for that matter be a mopey, emo and always slightly moist bad guy who loses to a girl all the time.

They most especially don’t want to be the girl unless they have the kind of parents that should be stoned.

Blogger binks webelf August 21, 2019 8:11 AM  

@14: Gregory the Great-- "there were (and are) rogue employees".. which is why senior financial analyst Sandra Kuba brought said problem to the attention of the higher-ups, who seemed to be indifferent-- or happy enough-- with over-inflated sales figures.

The Buck stops at the Big Desk, even if the CEO didn't personally do the crime, or if it happened on somebody else's watch. Leadership 101: You get the credit, but you also take the blame.

Iger is supposed to be the big financials & bottom-line guy. Or so we hear.

This is *his* kind of problem, and could have been dealt with immediately, and not via Sandra Kuba noticing that nobody in Devil Mouse cared, and going to the Securities and Exchange Commission and then getting fired for it.

In any case, Devil Mouse looks less and less like a solid, dependable good-guy kind of investment. New $1B Park crashing, Gen-X and their kids & grandkids avoiding Neo-Star Wars, too many acquisitions, and not enough bang for those bucks. The squishy returns on the MCU, the coming viewer-crash of FOX, the death-rattle of Star Wars.. good SJW politics, but a scary place to put your retirement fund.

Blogger Jim August 21, 2019 8:11 AM  

When Disney goes, does that mean we get our copyright laws back?

Blogger Statix August 21, 2019 8:15 AM  

My prediction is, the Wachowski degenerates will further ruin the legacy of The Matrix, and turn the series into being about some racist message of social-justice, or whatever blah blah blah.

They might even try to reappropriate the term "red-pilling," which originated from the original Matrix, and attempt to either defuse its prevalence as a right-wing meme, or convert it into something SJWs can use. Sort of like how the creator of Pepe tried to kill off Pepe.

Sad and ironic that the movie whose central theme was about rejecting the facade of the Narrative, and embracing truth, will now simply be more Hollywood propaganda to keep the NPCs in their pacified, zombie states.

Blogger Rek. August 21, 2019 8:15 AM  

You can do both. You just have to lie all the time. Case in point.

Blogger RobertDWood August 21, 2019 8:34 AM  

Hypothesis terminated. Good point in Hulu acquisition.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 21, 2019 8:40 AM  

As VD alludes, we're surrounded by Enrons.

Recall that Enron was feted by "analysts," CNBC, etc. during the period its stock price collapsed. Only AFTER its market capitalization evaporated was it revealed that the firm was a fraud from Day 1.

The 30-year T-bond hit a new All Time Low yield (ATH price) last week, a potent indicator that the herd remains in Everything Is Awesome-land. Until there is evidence that this adolescent-level suspension-of-disbelief is over, it's unlikely that DIS will see any repercussions in either E-suite occupant or stock price. The real dirt on DIS (or everywhere) won't surface until the value is already gone.

Note that Gillette's execrable ad of a few months ago predictably cratered sales, leading to an $8 billion reported loss for Proctor & Gamble. The day this was announced PG actually ROSE in price (because the final number "beat" analysts' expectations.) Yes, this is just another insane brick in the Great Wall of Insanity. My astonishment reservoir was long-ago emptied, so I don't even notice this stuff any more.

Someday it will all matter. Today is not yet that day, and judging by the action in the bond market, it's not imminent. Clown World, the Insane version, is still running on all cylinders.

Blogger Stephen August 21, 2019 8:41 AM  

No, it was a Gen-X thing. That's why it is bombing now. Gen-X actually quits stuff. Boomers don't.

This Boomer saw the first Star Wars opening day at the Chinese Theater in 1977 and quit the series upon seeing the trailers for the first prequel.
Most of my Boomer friends who (grudgingly) saw the first prequel quit the franchise immediately.
Perhaps you give more attention to Boomers of your acquaintance who babble on about Star Wars than to those of us who lost interest in the thing and do not utter a word about it.

Blogger JACIII August 21, 2019 8:41 AM  

As always with the usual suspects, sitting on a pile of money isn't enough. They have to be fucking somebody out of something all the time to feel content.

Blogger Shimshon August 21, 2019 8:46 AM  

@24 Stephen, you are a confirmed precious snowflake. As are all of your boomer friends.

You certainly won't quit talking about how you're the exceptional boomer. Rule proved.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 21, 2019 8:47 AM  

#rekt

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 21, 2019 8:48 AM  

The increasing amount of whistleblowing these days is heartening. The media corps tried to crack down hard on the flow of information in 2017, but their control is already slipping, even in their own ranks.

Blogger Rory August 21, 2019 8:55 AM  

Well, according to "Sarbanes-Oxley" (birthed from Enron) - these at the top are 'supposed' to be put in jail for falsifying financial statements.... Yet we've seen so many public companies lying about their finances that "Sarbanes-Oxley" simply has no teeth... Yet *BILLIONS* in wasted productivity was spent in so called compliance... oy....

Blogger BastionHarm August 21, 2019 8:58 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Note that Gillette's execrable ad of a few months ago predictably cratered sales, leading to an $8 billion reported loss for Proctor & Gamble. The day this was announced PG actually ROSE in price (because the final number "beat" analysts' expectations.) Yes, this is just another insane brick in the Great Wall of Insanity. My astonishment reservoir was long-ago emptied, so I don't even notice this stuff any more.

Someday it will all matter. Today is not yet that day, and judging by the action in the bond market, it's not imminent. Clown World, the Insane version, is still running on all cylinders.


So true...I don't pay hardly any attention to the markets as I once did, but, back in the heady days of the late 90s and early naughts, when everyone was a stock broker and everyone thought they were going to retire as millionaires...I always got a huge chuckle out of watching a big-name stock take a huge bounce because they only LOST $1,000,000,000 instead of $2,000,000,000! "BEAT ANALYST EXPECTATIONS!! BUY! BUY! BUY!!!"

Clown world indeed.

Blogger Gregory the Great August 21, 2019 9:00 AM  

@18 Binks: You are right, I forgot to consider the advantage of higher profits for the stock price etc. The top management is where the bonuses get really interesting. Declaring less sales tax will also increase the overall profit.

Blogger Garuna August 21, 2019 9:01 AM  

Devil Mouse Supreme Leader (((Bob Iger))) is running for President in 2024. Could turn into a catastrophic mistake as his opponents will certainly dig up all this dirt and broadcast it for the whole world to see.

Blogger Karhu August 21, 2019 9:04 AM  

If you were an early Generation Xer, the first Star Wars movie was A New Hope in an otherwise dismal era of imminent apocalypse or environmental collapse. While it's properly science fantasy rather than science fiction, compared to a stream of either incomprehensible or deliberately depressing movies like Planet of the Apes, The Omega Man, Silent Running, Soylent Green.... The last didn't age well, I still remember the protagonists marveling at a jar of real strawberry preserves they found at a rich man's dwelling.

Blogger lowercaseb August 21, 2019 9:07 AM  

I will give Gen-Z credit. They know the best way to piss off even the most calm Gen-Xer is to call them a Boomer.

I can respect that level of targeted button-pushing.

Blogger Purge187 August 21, 2019 9:17 AM  

I actually used to work for Netflix and participated in their employee stock purchase plan for most of the ten or so years I was there. I got about 130K back when I dumped it. Glad I got out while the getting-out was good.

Blogger Careless Whisper August 21, 2019 9:18 AM  

Starting to wonder if SJW signaling is the thing a company does when money is missing that will have to be answered for. Creates a smokescreen you can get all high and mighty about while you how that no one is actually looking closely at your accounting.
Gillette has been seeing profits decline since millennial corporate dress codes relaxed grooming requirements. They've BEEN losing money. That ad was very realistically an attempt at an alibi.

How hilarious to imagine you start off letting the familiar demon Greed rule over you, but in short order he invites over his buddies Sodomy and Infanticide and commands you bend your knee to them as well.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( every man who walked on the moon was a honkey, WhiteManBad ) August 21, 2019 9:19 AM  

7. Varuna August 21, 2019 7:37 AM
https://m.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/study-confirms-gen-x-are-just-boomers-who-like-star-wars/



dude.

i'm GenX, born 67. and i saw Star Wars in the theater more than 10 times.

and i'm done with it.

are there Boomers who liked SW? hell yeah. us GenX-ers were just kids, we didn't have any of our own money. but the Boomers didn't have anything to do with the merch sales bonanza that was going on in the 70s and 80s. that was Silent and Greatest gen buying toys for *us*.


11. Stg58/Animal Mother August 21, 2019 7:53 AM
for Episode IV.



heresy.

the original theater release, un-Lucas-molested 'A New Hope' is just STAR WARS.


24. Stephen August 21, 2019 8:41 AM
This Boomer


a comment about the generalities of a Generation does not necessarily have to be ABOUT YOU, snowflake.

#BoomersGonnaBoomer

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 21, 2019 9:28 AM  

[The Wachowskis] might even try to reappropriate the term "red-pilling,"

Wouldn't be surprised. Razorfist released a review yesterday of a Star Trek: DS9 retrospective documentary. Now, DS9 was great in part because the politics was nuanced. There were lefty messages at times because it was a TV show and that's what they do, but they didn't hit you over the head too often. It turned a skeptical eye to the socialist utopia of TNG and showed how well that would work if you couldn't fly away every week. Many Trekkies hated it for that reason. It wasn't dark-and-gritty to the everyone-sucks level of Game of Thrones, but the good guys had flaws and the bad guys had motives you could understand, like you get in a good story.

And apparently they spent a chunk of this documentary about a 1990s sci-fi TV show bashing Trump, even showing clips of him, and acting like they were fighting the good fight against Trumpism 25 years in advance. The main guy behind this thing, Ira Stephen Behr (echoes would be redundant), even dyed his Boomerhipster beard blue. The last thing I want now is for these people to ever produce another season of DS9 or a movie. They might still remember how to tell a good story, but they wouldn't let themselves because they have too many Important Things to say.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 21, 2019 9:44 AM  

This Boomer saw the first Star Wars opening day at the Chinese Theater in 1977 and quit the series upon seeing the trailers for the first prequel.

Which confirms the point that Star Wars is a Gen-X thing. You weren't very invested in it if you were turned off by trailers. Boomers saw Star Wars in 77-83 and enjoyed it, but they didn't grow up with it. I still remember getting in trouble for drawing X-wings and Tie-fighters on my desk in grade school. X-ers were the ones waiting in line to see Phantom Menace, and the ones who went nuts over how bad it was. "George Lucas ruined my childhood" could only come from Gen-X.

Blogger Sillon August 21, 2019 9:48 AM  

@20

Considering Matrix 2 & 3 contained levels of Wachowski's silliness we didn't even thought were possible...

Number 4 might reach levels of movie stupidity that could potentially end cinema as we know it.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 21, 2019 9:51 AM  

The Star Wars section of the park opened in Disney Land recently. Nobody likes it.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 21, 2019 9:51 AM  

X-ers were the ones waiting in line to see Phantom Menace, and the ones who went nuts over how bad it was. "George Lucas ruined my childhood" could only come from Gen-X.

The Last Jedi wasn't the biggest fight.

It wasn't the worst fight.

It was just the last fight.

It was the I'm walking away from this because I no longer care about saving this relationship fight.

It was the break up fight.

Blogger Borsabil August 21, 2019 9:52 AM  

Star Wars is 100% a Gen X thing, their Gen Z offspring give zero fucks about it. It didn't need to be that way, there was an enormous amount of hype and good will leading up to TFA. My own son, who's just hitting his teens, could't shut up about it. When he saw it he asked to see the original trilogy, which he loved, he kinda liked the prequels as well. TFA? Meh 'it was OK'. Then he saw TLJ and hasn't mentioned Star Wars since. What are Gen Z into? Video games, anime and Youtube, they'll go watch a Marvel movie but I've never seen any of my son's friends with any Marvel toys or merch, let alone the obsessive collecting of SW figures that dominated my childhood. If I was a Hollywood exec I'd be seriously looking at branching into Anime, even though American takes on Anime and Manga have been overwhelmingly terrible, that's the future.

Blogger Careless Whisper August 21, 2019 10:05 AM  

Oh man I can't believe this is turning into another boomer hate thread. I can't eat popcorn at this hour....

Blogger xevious2030 August 21, 2019 10:10 AM  

Nettflix has turned into mostly “Netflix originals,” in the streaming side. Not much for Disney to rot. Aside from a handful of comparatively decent shows, most of Netflix is already rot, and evil presented as good. As hard times move in, people tend to move away from the excess, being conquered by that which is not debase. Devil Mouse has likewise moved in this direction, the debase. Look at the Devil Mouse Channels, the older shows are not given a place. It would not be surprising to see their new stuff in the main for their upcoming stream service, with older shows being premium pay content (paywall). Most of the older stuff is viewed as sexist/racist/cultural imperialist/patriarchal, and so will be marginalized as much as possible. Song of the South will not be there, you can bet on that. “Mickey Has Two Cross Trans Mommies and A ‘Special Marian Zimmer Bradley Relationship’ with Them,” wearing tighty whiteys sporting a sausage bulge, is probably in the works with Devil Mouse as a series. Evil is creating a void, hence the prospects of Unauthorized.

Blogger Oswald August 21, 2019 10:10 AM  

I was a huge stars war fan. I always played Hans Solo and my friend played Luke Skywalker as kids. The latest series, how do I feel? Where do I start? First, they ripped off the early movies in putting together their overall plot. Then they made the main hero a woman, and made her more powerful than any male character including Yoda in the whole series. She is not just a jedi knight, but a jedi master, and she did it with almost no training. They also killed off Han and Luke, the male heroes of the movie. Then they made the main bad guy a cry baby. And all other bad guys were made cheesy and/or stupid. They then castrated all the good males. Thus, the new series became a feminine Nazis female domination fantasy movie. Which is fine, if you are into that sort of thing, but darn it, get you own franchise and quit stealing ours!

Blogger Varuna August 21, 2019 10:18 AM  

Read Star Wars expanded Universe if u like Luke & Han that much.
In the EU Luke is a master jedi of the highest order. There's even a version of Han's son that's way cooler than in the movies.

Blogger linesy August 21, 2019 10:21 AM  

Who knows if they focus real hard, they might be able to make a move even worse than Matrix 3.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 21, 2019 10:28 AM  

Read Star Wars expanded Universe if u like Luke & Han that much.

Sure, you can do that. Heck, I read the original Star Wars before I saw the movie, because my family almost never went to movies. I still remember it had pictures in the middle. The story was so good you didn't need the big screen to love it.

Don't see how that's relevant to this discussion, though.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 21, 2019 10:29 AM  

binks webelf wrote:Leadership 101: You get the credit, but you also take the blame.
Leadership 102: Cheerfully & enthusiastically give the credit away, to particular persons under you.

Jim wrote:When Disney goes, does that mean we get our copyright laws back?
I'd like to think so, but very likely you'll have a person/group grab up everything at a discount and continue Disney's "let's own everything, haha!"

Purge187 wrote:I actually used to work for Netflix and participated in their employee stock purchase plan for most of the ten or so years I was there. I got about 130K back when I dumped it. Glad I got out while the getting-out was good.
Cool. Do you mind if I ask what you did there?

Blogger JACIII August 21, 2019 10:33 AM  

Die boomers. Just die and rot away.

Sincerely,

The entire rest of the planet's population

Blogger Varuna August 21, 2019 10:34 AM  

The dude sounded bummed out cause Disney ruined his fav characters, I just offered an alternative, that is it.

Blogger Purge187 August 21, 2019 10:38 AM  

"Cool. Do you mind if I ask what you did there?"

Pretty much everything - quality control, driving the company truck, etc. It was a good job.

Blogger LP916 August 21, 2019 11:15 AM  

Star Wars Belongs to Gen X.

Blogger wahr01 August 21, 2019 11:33 AM  

It's very interesting watching the death of TV as a medium, whether over air, over cable, or over internet.

It started with the rise of CGI special effects, leading to a "style over substance" mentality that resulted in writing teams being under-funded, striking, and then being fired, in repeated waves, leaving only those who were in the field for some other means, like preaching their political ideology.

Shows which bled audience due to lack-luster writing to become utterly repellent preaching nobody wants to hear in their free time.

This drove people onto online video sites like YouTube because Joe Schmoe telling dad jokes into his webcam is more entertaining than some ideologue demonizing you and your way of life to your face.

Seeing this, they pressured online platforms into censoring their user-bases and becoming unfit for purpose.

Rather than staunching the bleeding, though, this is just annoying a steadily-increasing proportion of the populace.

Not only have I not watched "tv" of any type in years, I've in the past 24 months moved almost entirely away from visual media period.

Blogger Sologamer August 21, 2019 11:38 AM  

So Star Wars was the childhood of Gen X, and Gen Z don't really care about it. What about Millennials? I guess the prequels were their Star Wars. But they were not really very well loved.

Blogger wahr01 August 21, 2019 11:53 AM  

@56

back to the future, akira, and various anime franchises long since wood-chipped by globalism, bad localizers, etc and abandoned for video-games, which have also been wood-chipped western-side in favor of east-asian dev houses and indie.

Blogger Ska_Boss August 21, 2019 12:29 PM  

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be one big money laundering operation

Blogger Shimshon August 21, 2019 12:33 PM  

My proto-boomer (or it it archaeo-; for someone born a few years before and sharing some of the tics with boomers?) mom worked at 20th Century Fox when Star Wars came out.

I am from LA, and been to to premiers at the Mann Chinese, but I only ever saw the movie during its first run at a special studio screening. It might not have even been the final release for all I remember. I was 11. Either way, I was enthralled. Not to the point of interest in collecting toys, sorry to say. I got a nice complete press kit too, which I sold years ago on eBay. It was, in a way, better than any toy.

All my cousins are boomers. I am the youngest, and slipped through the cracks into Gen X. I can't tell you how grateful I am. Neither of my parents are boomers either. I can't say the same for my wife.

Blogger Angantyr August 21, 2019 12:43 PM  

11. Stg58/Animal Mother August 21, 2019 7:53 AM
for Episode IV.
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heresy.

the original theater release, un-Lucas-molested 'A New Hope' is just STAR WARS.

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I was going to point this out but ya beat me to it...

Blogger HouellebecqGurl August 21, 2019 12:59 PM  

Older GenXer here, saw the first Star Wars in the theater when I was 11. I was not that into it.
Didn't see another one until I took my kids to see the 90s sequels.
Neither one of them care or have seen the reboots.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl August 21, 2019 1:05 PM  

Longer version of what I said above about my Millennial kids not interested in SW, but I should also add, my oldest two grandsons & a granddaughter are all Zoomers & none of them are into it, either.
Who are they making these new movies for???

Blogger justaguy August 21, 2019 1:07 PM  

Now if you really want to go at the Boomers, talk about Star Trek...

Blogger HouellebecqGurl August 21, 2019 1:08 PM  

The greatest Boomer revenge is when they die off and leave us minorities.
Also, we GenXers aren't getting any younger/healthier.

Blogger CCP August 21, 2019 1:13 PM  

Will Netflix's market look like this soon?

http://www.blockbuster.com/franchise.html

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 21, 2019 1:27 PM  

"Gen-X actually quits stuff. Boomers don't."

A truth worthy of being chiseled into the best marble.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 1:31 PM  

@7

"https://m.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/study-confirms-gen-x-are-just-boomers-who-like-star-wars/"

Author is obviously a window-licking idiot.

Blogger RandyB August 21, 2019 1:32 PM  

Which explains why 12 step program participants are predominantly Boomers. The programs give them excuses for why they can't quit.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 1:38 PM  

@13

"I'd had hopes for Bob Chapek as successor. A crusty mid-westerner that Hollywood hates, like Walt himself."

Oh, screw that.

The quicker Disney dies, the better.

They've been undermining American culture from the day they decided to NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER release or screen "Song of the South", on the basis of supposed racism.

DEVIL MOUSE MUST DIE.

Also, Disney is the entity primarily responsible for copyrights being changed from the Constitutionally mandated "limited periods of time" to "Author's life + XXX years" and ALSO allowing copyrights to be held by people who did NOT create the thing being copyrighted ["work for hire" flies in the face of any sane reading of what copyright is for, and what the Constitution says about it. A fictitions person CANNOT BE AN AUTHOR. Only an actual person can be an author. "Work for hire" is how so many musicians were screwed out of absolute fortunes of money, while the record companies kept all the profits from sales of recordings.
That's WHY the Beatles formed their own recording company ... so that they could actually see, and receive, the revenues their albums and singles were creating.]

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 1:46 PM  

"When Disney goes, does that mean we get our copyright laws back?"

Of course not. The record companies have joined Disney in the perpetual quest for perpetual copyrights.

I think there's an easy way to defang the copyright law... one little poison pill.

My earlier example -- song of the South...

If a "copyright holder" fails to produce, for sale, a copyrighted work, within 6 weeks, then the work is judged to have "no commercial value" to the copyright holder, and is immmediately turned into the public domain.

You want to sit on thousands upon thousands of old recordings that people want to buy, but they can't be found in stores, and the only thing you make available are digital versions sold in the lossy-compression of MP3.... too bad. It's public domain, and ANYBODY who wants to make and sell copies of the original, high quality version, is free to do so.

Do that, and watch (((record companies))) throw an absolute shit-fit.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 1:52 PM  

@33
"If you were an early Generation Xer, the first Star Wars movie was A New Hope in an otherwise dismal era of imminent apocalypse or environmental collapse. While it's properly science fantasy rather than science fiction, compared to a stream of either incomprehensible or deliberately depressing movies like Planet of the Apes, The Omega Man, Silent Running, Soylent Green...."

You left out all the movies, starting with "Rosemary's Baby" which depicted babies and children as lethal terrorist entities endangering the lives of adults everywhere.

Blogger Skyler the Weird August 21, 2019 1:55 PM  

I'm guessing the Matrix IV is going to look a lot like Sense8. Trinity will drop the dildo she's using on Neo in a big close up.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 21, 2019 2:16 PM  

Disney's "Captain Marvel" profits may well be overstated.

http://forge-and-anvil.com/2019/03/18/2683/

And Netflix is simply evil. Scoff all you'd like, but many families and good people already recognize this fact, and they've dropped it.

http://forge-and-anvil.com/2019/07/29/i-dropped-netflix-last-week-because-of-stranger-things-3/

Blogger Laramie Hirsch August 21, 2019 2:18 PM  

@71 While it's properly science fantasy rather than science fiction, compared to a stream of either incomprehensible or deliberately depressing movies like Planet of the Apes, The Omega Man, Silent Running, Soylent Green....

Silent Running. Ha! Hilariously ridiculous movie. It accurately shows the insane and unreasonable mania of whacked-out environmentalists. Obscure movie, too. Surprised someone today remembers it.

Blogger Jab Burrwalky August 21, 2019 2:30 PM  

Evil always devours itself eventually.

Blogger xevious2030 August 21, 2019 2:33 PM  

"and is immmediately turned into the public domain."

7 years for anything, from the smallest pamphlet or pill to the largest software package. You want government protection, it has to go into the public domain in a timely manner. Make some money, and if you want to make more, add more value. If no copyright, then it is fair game. No "non-disclosure" with the public/consumer. Source code, licensing, product keys, the whole ball of wax. Externals (non USA) that do not agree to this can peddle their products elsewhere. After 7 years of copyright, nothing is piracy, and you own your copy outright.

Anyway, a wish list for the future.

Blogger Greg Hunt August 21, 2019 2:38 PM  

Heh. I'm not quick to rile, but that just might do it.

Blogger Greg Hunt August 21, 2019 2:54 PM  

I can't speak to ALL of the current youth, but two franchises are standing out for their repetition around here. One is Phineas and Ferb, a kids cartoon with music. The other is the halflife/portal universe. Kids know everything there is to know about it.

But I'm not so sure that a point of cultural bonding exists for that demographic. Other than knowing that family/friends have their back and "other" explicitly does not.

Blogger Daniel August 21, 2019 3:05 PM  

Matrix 3 was treason.

Blogger Karhu August 21, 2019 3:14 PM  

@74 Laramie Hirsch:

"Silent Running. Ha! Hilariously ridiculous movie. It accurately shows the insane and unreasonable mania of whacked-out environmentalists. Obscure movie, too. Surprised someone today remembers it."

Wasn't so obscure back then, and it has significance in budget special effects history, it was the directorial debut of Douglas Trumbull, who has worked on the special effects of 2001, The Andromeda Strain, Blade Runner, and Close Encounters, and saved Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

The latter is quite a story according to him, the original guy was so incompetent he for example staged a massive and very expensive explosion, but neglected to make sure anything better than a 16mm camera was capturing it. It's a matter of record that guy didn't produce even a few seconds of usable film, and Trumbull was called in at the last minute, with only 6 months and not a lot of money did almost everything from scratch using a lot of hacks to save money and time. For example, putting lines of graphite on the Klingon ships which got zapped early in the movie to direct strong arcs of electricity.

Good thing Silent Running was done on a shoestring budget and marketing was also a word-of-mouth experiment, Bruce Dern + insane environmentalism kept it at no more than a cult classic. But the effects are fantastic, he for example perfected difficult Saturn effects that Kubrick had to ditch for Jupiter for 2001.

Blogger JonM August 21, 2019 3:15 PM  

@74: Everybody remembers the robots from Silent Running, but that's about it. They were the best part of that movie. They definitely were the most well-rounded characters in it.

Blogger Lance E August 21, 2019 3:50 PM  

What, you don't think Another Life is valuable IP? But it has such great Casting Diversity!

Blogger Unknown August 21, 2019 4:14 PM  

"Another alleged act involved recording revenue for $500 gift cards at their face value even when guests paid a discounted rate of $395."

I'm in the middle of an accounting minor in college, and I can say that this, right here, is fraudulent accounting practices, and that alone is cause for a forensic accounting audit.

Not that I expect one, fraud is a normal business practice any more. Wachovia (now part of Wells Fargo) was caught money laundering for drug cartels, and as punishment was only ordered to pay a fine that was a percentage of the profits involved. Bank of America played massive games with mortgage fraud during the mortgage bubble in the 2000s, and the aftermath of the bubble detonating, and no one went to prison.

Fraud is only against the law for little people.
-Unknownsailor-

Blogger OneWingedShark August 21, 2019 4:34 PM  

Unknown wrote:Fraud is only against the law for little people.
Same for identity theft; remember Wells Fargo opening all those extra accounts?

Blogger PG August 21, 2019 4:58 PM  

I'm coming to the conclusion that boomers in other countries are not quite like the boomers here down under. Yes, they loudly refuse to take on board any "stupid" ideas you offer, only later to claim idea was their own and suggest you adopt it. Yes, they cry about how much financial hardship they suffer, but have piles of untouched money. However, aside from all their annoying traits they also have, in this country anyway, pioneering skills handed down from generations before. They can, in general, drive a tractor, chop wood, build a fire, trap an animal, fire a gun, fish, sew, cook and garden to feed themselves, although they rarely use those skills atm. Also, their reading and writing level is of a caliber much higher than the youth. These skills might be very valuable here for us going forward. I'm a Gen X and I spend a lot of time painfully extracting 'don't be silly everyone knows that" information from our boomers.

Our isolation is probably responsible for the differences. In boomer times we lagged behind America in technology by twenty or so years, now we are at least parallel if not ahead.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 5:13 PM  

Oh, our boomers have those skills, too.

But they absolutely REFUSE to pass any of their knowledge and skills on to the next generation. That's why, instead of paying for training their own employees in the most recent version of XYZ Software, version A.B, they'll instead run an ad looking for people with 3 YEARS of experience with XYZ version A.B (yes, specifically stating that version as a requirement), then running to the State Department, (fraudulently) claiming that they "can't find anybody who's qualified" so that they can import Jagdish and Patel, and then pay for THOSE guys to go to XYZ version A.B class.

And as for machine shop skills and other things like that? They all complain that "nobody younger than me knows how to do this!" while steadfastly refusing to take any time in their (on the clock) day to show the younger employees how to do it... because sitting around bullshitting on company time is more important than, you know, teaching the people who have to fill your shoes after you go.

They literally don't give a hoot about what happens after they die -- not even the fate of their own children and grandchildren.

It's sickening.

Blogger Daniel August 21, 2019 5:29 PM  

Matrix 3 could have been awesome.
But they took the blue pill themselves?

Blogger Daniel August 21, 2019 5:30 PM  

They fucked up everything

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 5:43 PM  

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Blogger Daniel August 21, 2019 5:44 PM  

Are you talking about the books? There is even an awesome villain, a super smart dude who despised vader. Liked it a lot

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 5:44 PM  

Since the topic has turned to Boomers, I'm reminded of a piece of advice given to advertisers as Boomers began entering their peak disposable-income years [About 30 years ago]

How to sell to the Silent Generation: "... because you EARNED it."

How to sell to Baby Boomers: ".... because you DESERVE it." [Do not even mention the concept of having earning anything, as too many Boomers will realize they've fallen short of that standard, as they have had, far more than they are willing to admit out loud, far too much GIVEN to them.]

updating

selling to Gen-X: ".... because you .... oh forget it, it's not even attainable anymore now, unless you were personal pals with Jeffrey Epstein."

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 5:48 PM  

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Blogger LSWCHP August 21, 2019 5:52 PM  

It's an Australian satire site like the Bee.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 5:52 PM  

@47

"Read Star Wars expanded Universe if u like "

There's nothing more pathetic than fan-fic.

Seriously, I'd rather read about the perverted world of ever-present, intergalactic dinosaur recursive buttrape from Chuck Tingly...and the mere thought of that makes me want to throw up.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 5:56 PM  

"7 years for anything, from the smallest pamphlet or pill to the largest software package. "

And another thing... simultaneous protection under BOTH patent law AND copyright law flies in the face of logic, to the point that it not merely insults the intelligence, it's grounds for bringing back dueling.

Blogger Hammerli 280 August 21, 2019 6:30 PM  

Question: If the credit boom evaporates, how do people with no debt turn it into profits?

Blogger Jim August 21, 2019 6:33 PM  

Sologamer wrote:So Star Wars was the childhood of Gen X, and Gen Z don't really care about it. What about Millennials? I guess the prequels were their Star Wars. But they were not really very well loved.

Millenails laughed at the prequels. There's a reason sand is a meme.

Going by my relatives, by the time TLJ rolled around, the Gen-Xers said "enough is enough," the Millennials said "about time," and the Gen-Zers were wondering what the big deal was.

Blogger VD August 21, 2019 6:52 PM  

how do people with no debt turn it into profits?

Buy up the newly affordable assets.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 7:31 PM  

@96

"Question: If the credit boom evaporates, how do people with no debt turn it into profits?"

When the debts are called in, and the velocity of money is relatively low, you won't be one of those dragged into bankruptcy court.

There's your profit -- you weren't hanging out in the deep water, with no bathing suit.

Blogger OneWingedShark August 21, 2019 7:32 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Oh, our boomers have those skills, too.

But they absolutely REFUSE to pass any of their knowledge and skills on to the next generation. That's why, instead of paying for training their own employees in the most recent version of XYZ Software, version A.B, they'll instead run an ad looking for people with 3 YEARS of experience with XYZ version A.B (yes, specifically stating that version as a requirement), then running to the State Department, (fraudulently) claiming that they "can't find anybody who's qualified" so that they can import Jagdish and Patel, and then pay for THOSE guys to go to XYZ version A.B class.

And as for machine shop skills and other things like that? They all complain that "nobody younger than me knows how to do this!" while steadfastly refusing to take any time in their (on the clock) day to show the younger employees how to do it... because sitting around bullshitting on company time is more important than, you know, teaching the people who have to fill your shoes after you go.

They literally don't give a hoot about what happens after they die -- not even the fate of their own children and grandchildren.

It's sickening.

It is.
The training thing is absolutely heartbreaking/enraging/discouraging, all simultaneously. It's all a travesty and, especially looking at the big-picture trends, ensures that not merely hard times, but very hard times are coming. — And, perhaps the worst of it, it's not the Boomers who will pay the price: it's their descendants.

Jim wrote:Going by my relatives, by the time TLJ rolled around, the Gen-Xers said "enough is enough," the Millennials said "about time," and the Gen-Zers were wondering what the big deal was.
The "Rise of Skywalker" (*gag*) is going to be record-breaking in how many people won't care.
The writing was on the wall with TFA: no explanation of how RotJ leads into the current situation, the whole "not the empire" empire, the "not the rebels" rebels, and the Mary Sue protagonist were all fatal blows, even if many of the audience didn't feel them.
TLJ was rubbing salt in those wounds, gloating over the pain, and has burned up all the good will that fans had… and, indeed, turned many former-fans not only off Star Wars, but made them despise Disney.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( every man who walked on the moon was a honkey, WhiteManBad ) August 21, 2019 8:06 PM  

74. Laramie Hirsch August 21, 2019 2:18 PM
Surprised someone today remembers it.



saw it in the theater. i caught part of it once some years back on cable.

there's a reason nobody remembers that.


i suppose it should be mentioned, given the Omega football thread, that Luke is the very definition of Secret King refusing to cooperate with the team.

otherwise he'd have kept his targeting computer on.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 9:05 PM  

"TLJ was rubbing salt in those wounds, gloating over the pain, and has burned up all the good will that fans had… and, indeed, turned many former-fans not only off Star Wars, but made them despise Disney."

Hatred which Disney, Inc. earned long ago, buy hiring loads of faggots [who are ALL sex-obsessed] into the drawing rooms, and then actually releasing all of the imagery with sexual images deliberately buried in it.

After the first time one of those things was spotted, they should have put the entire animation team on notice -- if even one more sexual image turns up in a what is meant to be a G-rated movie, every last one of you is fired, and then stuck to it. There's no better way to stop that kind of nonsense then to put them into the position that they will VIGOROUSLY police each other.

But, no..... having a room full of fags drawing lewd pictures within the scenes of kids films, and then charging the kiddies' parents for the privilege of having their minds poisoned with such filth is far, FAR more important for (((you know who))).

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 9:11 PM  

@101

"i suppose it should be mentioned, given the Omega football thread, that Luke is the very definition of Secret King refusing to cooperate with the team.

otherwise he'd have kept his targeting computer on."

Luke would only be a Secret King if he had never spent months in a swamp with Yoda, and had never risked his life, nor learned how to fight with laser swords, nor used that knowledge.

Given all of the above mental/emotional training (especially the telekenetics and learning to sword fight blindfolded), and that turning off the computer was NOT his idea (it came from Obi-Wan), turning off the targeting computer(*) was entirely justified.

Verdict: Sigma, not Gamma.

(*) Which, given the results, was obviously NOT prepared for that sort of target+attack profile combination

Blogger weka August 21, 2019 10:03 PM  

The prequels killed what little interest the Ewok movie had left. I was at peak need age for the first star wars movie and the sequels were awful.

Blogger SirHamster August 21, 2019 10:13 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Given all of the above mental/emotional training (especially the telekenetics and learning to sword fight blindfolded), and that turning off the computer was NOT his idea (it came from Obi-Wan), turning off the targeting computer(*) was entirely justified.

Verdict: Sigma, not Gamma.

Delta, for following directions. Used his long practiced piloting and shooting skills for the cause.

Han, the lovable rogue with his own ship, is the Sigma.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 10:40 PM  

I'll go with that analysis, Sir Hamster.

Blogger Doug Cranmer August 21, 2019 10:40 PM  

Heh. My first job as an engineer at a steel company in the mid 80s I named our new scanning X-ray gauges in the documentation Huey, Dewey and Louie. The Weston Schlumberger guys building them loved it. They knew exactly what I was referring to.

Blogger Doug Cranmer August 21, 2019 10:42 PM  

"Anyway, a wish list for the future."

In our new land.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 21, 2019 11:02 PM  

New land nothing!
Our recovered land.

Blogger Varuna August 22, 2019 3:42 AM  

It was cannon before Disney

Blogger Up from the pond August 22, 2019 12:42 PM  

Twenty years ago, Orlando was a mecca for film, TV, and music production.

Now, not so much.

It's a shell of its former self.

I don't know the situation out in California and elsewhere, but it would no surprise to me if Disney World Resort's sales have been overstated.

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