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Friday, September 06, 2019

"Mainstream conservatives are traitorous cunts"

And they should never be trusted. Ben Shapiru proves, once more, that GamerGate was right.
Jamie R. Riley, the University of Alabama’s assistant vice president and dean of students, resigned from his position on Thursday after less than seven months on the job, UA officials confirmed.

His resignation comes a day after Breitbart News published an article detailing images of past tweets from Riley, in which he criticized the American flag and made a connection between police and racism.

Jackson Fuentes, press secretary for the UA Student Government Association, confirmed at 4:15 p.m. that Riley is no longer working at the University.
This is a clear-cut win for the Right. And yet somehow, for some reason, (((conservatives))) such as Shapiru and Ekaterina Jung are very, very determined to convince the Right that winning battles is the way to lose the cultural war.

Ben Shapiru@benshapiru
I disagree with this person’s tweets. He shouldn’t lose his job. Also, those on the Left who are livid he lost his job should take a look in the mirror about the world they’ve built, and in which both sides will now play by their ugly rules.

The rules are what they are, Benny. Ugly or not, they are the rules and if you don't play by them, you cannot win. That's true of everything from backgammon to basketball. So, the obvious question is, why are you so intent on preventing the Right from winning, Benny?

Remember, they assert that the main lesson of GamerGate for conservatives is to never ally yourself with anyone unsavory or unseemly who might actually help you win a battle or two.

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105 Comments:

Blogger Jason September 06, 2019 1:14 PM  

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams

The caveat here being (((they))) have never been our countrymen, never will be, and should jog on to their own country, which the "West" they despise gave back to them, after they lost it thousands of years ago. Small surprise they don't want to fight for what they don't really believe in. Benny would change his tune about these matters if this was all taking place in Israel.

Blogger TheMaleRei September 06, 2019 1:17 PM  

The Left is the enemy.

Controlled Opposition simply sees them as drinking buddies who pay them in compliments and assurances that they'll be eaten last.

Blogger TheMaleRei September 06, 2019 1:19 PM  

@1

Reminds me of what Vox said an Israeli told him. That they've hated the West since Greece and Rome, even before Christ was sent...

Who can hold a grudge for so long? We have an answer...

Blogger Warunicorn September 06, 2019 1:26 PM  

We're just playin' by their rules, Benny. Ann Coulter seems to have gotten the memo (from her latest column, "We Don't Trust You"):

"Actress Debra Messing is collecting names of Trump supporters for a new Hollywood blacklist. Armed and masked left-wing brown-shirts patrol the streets of Portland, Oregon, beating up suspected Trump supporters. I tweet, “It’s a nice day,” and 2,000 people respond that they hope I will die.

We’re dealing with people who are not honest brokers. We can no longer have any expectation of good faith, sound process or common sense.

In this environment, it’s preposterous to believe that we can start putting asterisks on the Second Amendment and hope that it will survive.

We can’t entrust our liberties to your dirty hands."

Blogger binks webelf September 06, 2019 1:32 PM  

Proof-of-concept for researching past tweets, posts, stories and the like; .pdf-saving, screen-capping & archiving them them; then, using them to point out what the persecutors & banners themselves have said on certain occasions in the past. Goose, gander.

Blogger Latigo3 September 06, 2019 1:34 PM  

Yeah, Ben Shapiro reminds me of Piggy in Lord of the Flies, "I have the conch".
Not realizing that things have shifted and what the base rules are.

Blogger Talios Hammerfist September 06, 2019 1:43 PM  

I am ashamed that I once watched Ben Shapiro videos ad nauseum. The littlest chickenhawk is trying gatekeep the real right from getting a mainstream voice. Of course, he is losing as that is what conservatives are good at.

Blogger Nation-Deprived September 06, 2019 2:00 PM  

“I disagree with this person’s tweets. He shouldn’t lose his job.”

He would have you lose your job in a second if he could, Ben. They may be just tweets to you, but to his enemies they are indicators of what this man is willing to do to anyone who “disagrees” with him.

Blogger Geir Balderson September 06, 2019 2:04 PM  

I tried to comment on the UofA website and my post was not published. Clearly they do not allow any dissent.
How sad for them and their destruction of Free Speech.

And, i thought lefties wanted only tolerance. Yep, never give in or give up!

Blogger Ferdinand September 06, 2019 2:08 PM  

Iam tired of traitors on the "right". Cuckservatives are a known quantity by now, but even seemingly right wing people constantly punch right.

Blogger Damn Crackers September 06, 2019 2:10 PM  

"Jaime Reily? What's a nice Irish fella disparaging the flag like that?"

-Looks at picture in news story

"Oh..."

Blogger Charlie the Chaste September 06, 2019 2:11 PM  

Shapiru is a classic Diasporan. He would quake before an average right wing, nationalist Israeli.

Blogger RandyB September 06, 2019 2:15 PM  

The optimum solution to the iterative Prisoners' Dilemma is as predictive as it is prescriptive. Those who deny the prescription are trying to hold back the prediction. Those who lie about the prescription are trying to turn the prediction in their own favor.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel September 06, 2019 2:19 PM  

I've often thought that Debra Messing has breast envy.

Blogger Roberto Masioni September 06, 2019 2:23 PM  

"Yeah, Ben Shapiro reminds me of Piggy in Lord of the Flies, '"I have the conch.' Not realizing that things have shifted and what the base rules are." -- Latigo3

Ben knows exactly what he's doing. He's not a cuck. He is the enemy.

Blogger Roberto Masioni September 06, 2019 2:26 PM  

If all Tribal members were exposed and banned, punching to starboard would cease almost completely.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 06, 2019 2:30 PM  

I stumbled upon this quotation recently. It seems accurate in the case of Shapiro:

"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialect. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves, simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoting platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters...sometimes I stood there thunderstruck, I don’t know what amazed me more, the agility of their tongues, or the virtuosity of their lying"

Blogger Stilicho September 06, 2019 2:30 PM  

The primary job of the Fake Right is to protect the Left from consequences.

Blogger David Craig September 06, 2019 2:45 PM  

LCH is so gotdam righteous, isn't he? If he doesn't cuck and cluck these things at every chance, he will lose his chance to co-host The View.

Blogger kurt9 September 06, 2019 2:47 PM  

Benny boy needs to have his head handed to him again by that Brit (I forget his name) on national television.

Blogger Alexamenos September 06, 2019 2:49 PM  

I've been wondering a bit about boomer gen conservatives, the fake right, cucks, and also (((them))). LSS, I'm not altogether certain about which way causation flows.

Regarding boomer gen conservatives, I think they're 1970's liberals who prefer slightly lower marginal tax rates...maybe they had a little too much lead paint in their cribs.

They're Non-Player Conservatives, their programs were written in the late '70s and early '80s and they've never been updated. They grew up in an era of white hegemony in a high trust society and they simply cannot conceive of any other world. Racism, for them, will always be something that white people do to black people. Just reading this would cause them to repeat 'content of character not color of skin'.

I wonder whether boomers are more cause or effect. I've seen a fair number of people over the years who are very adept at noting the direction the herd is moving and then moving out in front as if they're leading. Are cuckservative grifters any different than this? Are (((they))) leading the addle brained boomers or are they conmen spotting a ripe opportunity?

Blogger CarpeOro September 06, 2019 2:53 PM  

#McCarthydidnothingwrong

There certainly are some parallels between Benny and the 1950s. He and the people on McCarthy's list were both serving their Marxist masters. Only difference was Stalinist for the 1950s and Trotskeyite for Benny. Neither have my best interest in mind.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 06, 2019 3:11 PM  

I graduated from U of A about a hundred years ago.
Look what it has become. It was inevitable though, & willing it not to was highly unrealistic. I just naively thought the Deep South schools wouldn't ever get as bad as the coastal elite colleges, that they'd have a bit of a natural immune system. In reality, it was just my wishful thinking.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 06, 2019 3:13 PM  

That guy wrote a whole book filled w/ quotes like that. You should read it.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 September 06, 2019 3:14 PM  

I gotta admire the big balls that Ben Shapiru has. I mean, he did say that racists should lose their jobs for the things they say.

The Cuckservative will always, always side with their "enemies" in the name of free speech, but will never side with their own for the same reason.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 06, 2019 3:18 PM  

"those on the Left who are livid he lost his job should take a look in the mirror about the world they’ve built" -- Ben Shapiru

Yeah, because if they just look in the mirror, their hearts will grow three sizes and they'll stop trying to destroy us. Suuuure, Ben.

Blogger Noah B. September 06, 2019 3:21 PM  

Random Guy: "America is a racist country that doesn't deserve to exist."
Benji: I disagree but you have a right to your opinion. Want to get together for drinks?

Random Guy: "Israel is a racist country that doesn't deserve to exist."
Benji: Antisemite! Your children deserve to be blown to bits by our tanks and airplanes!

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 06, 2019 3:23 PM  

Indeed one of the weapons used by gatekeepers is the Upstanding Citizen thing. It's basically the rights own version of "purity spiral".
On a minor level it is social. Like for example what Churchians try to do to Trump because he got divorced or something.
Where it's most effective is in setting up weaponization of accusation. Anybody can be charged with anything at any time by anybody. But all it takes is one accusation of anything sexual or perverted against a conservative in an environment such as what I describe and the target is ruined forever.
I have actually had this conversation:
"Well Bob is history. Not after this".
"What do you mean? Bob was cleared of all charges and the accusation turned out to be false."
"Doesn't matter. To even be accused of such a thing shows that Bob is some kind of troublemaker".
This is why we have leftists trafficking kids and nothing happens but if you were on the right and somebody's brothers sisters cousins roommate from college says you wore a lampshade on your head you are ruined.
And yes, boomers were involved. Because the accusation made it to print, or TV, or the local radio itust be true even when it's not.
As I say, from the lowest SJW to the highest deep stater it's ball one big neocon operation and it's no surprise to see Shipiru and his ilk trying to maintain the status quo this way.
There are going to be tribunals over this.

Blogger spinoza September 06, 2019 3:26 PM  

I’m gay becauause you are racism, I would rather be an emotion than an inanimate cloth flag anyway. I’m more gay than my gay, Christ, I am the antichrist and Benny is my bitch.

Blogger C-Speaks September 06, 2019 3:32 PM  

These cuckservatives are getting more desperate and annoying by the day. Whether it's "open dialogue", "finding middle ground", "common sense conversations across the aisle", "honest conversation". Nationalists are the only ones who realise we should have absolutely no interest in engaging with these hucksters for a second longer.

Blogger Brick Hardslab September 06, 2019 3:36 PM  

Do you have any current connection with little Benji at all? Would you be welcomed back into the fold it you just denounced your friends and jumped on the neo clowns train or are there too many cucks just waiting to get little Benji's job?

Blogger Brett baker September 06, 2019 3:56 PM  

Well, shut him up, please. He's embarrassing you.

Blogger NRx September 06, 2019 4:10 PM  

The thing about "conservatives" is they don't even have to glow in the dark or otherwise be on anyone's payroll (although many do Shapiro is certainly a paid whore for someone) to be traitorous cunts its all in the name "conservative"... if you are permanently on the defensive and NEVER for taking ground back from the enemy you are always going to lose in the end.

The real right should hate Edmund Burke almost as much as Karl Marx.

Blogger VFM Bear September 06, 2019 4:10 PM  

Stilicho wrote:The primary job of the Fake Right is to protect the Left from consequences.

The White Knight Right.

Fits them like a hood, er, glove.

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 06, 2019 4:13 PM  

Captain Civility to the rescue.

Every.

Damn.

Time.

Blogger Crew September 06, 2019 4:15 PM  

I have noticed something curious about so-called Conservative web sites like The GayewayPundit, DailyCaller and Breitbart.

They seem to have a large number of articles about antiSemitism and Muh Holocaust.

Makes me suspicious that they are fake conservative sites as well.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia September 06, 2019 4:17 PM  

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Blogger DangerSemiconductor September 06, 2019 4:30 PM  

TheMaleRei wrote:@1

Reminds me of what Vox said an Israeli told him. That they've hated the West since Greece and Rome, even before Christ was sent...
Who can hold a grudge for so long? We have an answer...


I witnessed the transmission of the Grudge last year in a local coffee house.

A purple-haired female rabbi (I am guessing, Reform, probably the most liberal of the sects) was meeting with an eleven-year-old boy after school to conduct the Jewish equivalent of Sunday School tutoring. She recounted some act from thousands of years ago by a people no longer in existence against the Jews. She then told the boy, "We remember because this is who we are."

The Grudge is evidently a formal part of their religious dogma.

Blogger Crew September 06, 2019 4:42 PM  

17: You're not fooling us. We know what you have been reading.

Blogger David Ray Milton September 06, 2019 4:43 PM  

Shapiru: “What’s next? GINNOHCYYYIIIDDEE?”

Blogger Skyler the Weird September 06, 2019 4:55 PM  

What'll happen to your healthcare if these same nasty leeches get control over it? In addition to being fired or deplatformed for a dissenting opinion you'll be denied medical coverage as well.

Blogger FP September 06, 2019 4:58 PM  

@38 "The Grudge is evidently a formal part of their religious dogma."

A great example of this was a documentary made on Israel's teenagers indoctrination trips to the camps in eastern Europe as a senior high school trip several years ago. You had girls visting Auschwitz eventually crying and screaming at several Polish men nearby, "these people hate us even today!".

Blogger Gregory the Great September 06, 2019 5:08 PM  

@kurt9
Will not easily happen as Shapiru will take great care to only debate Peterson, Rogan and Rubin after his mishap with the BBC.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 06, 2019 5:35 PM  

@39 Seriously! Just read this quote in a Halsey-vs-Enoch debate comment box. I'd never read it before last week. I won't cite it. But man...seems to have a ring of truth to it.

On the other hand, we'll quote Marcus Aurelius, and he killed Christians. So, I mean, Truth from observation has a diversity of sources.

Blogger sumdudesfrysauce September 06, 2019 6:12 PM  

What's (((with all))) these -> ((())) going on? I feel like I'm reading the vapid screeching of (((ttylbrblolroflomgwtfbbq)))!!!!111!!1! twats.

Why are some commenters unable to write something normal? All this added non-punctuation is completely unnecessary. If you want to say it, say it. If you don't, then don't.

Blogger JaimeInTexas September 06, 2019 6:16 PM  

"I disagree with this person’s tweets. He shouldn’t lose his job."

That train left the station a long time ago. Who were the first demanding the very actions Shapiru moaning about?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 06, 2019 6:28 PM  

I stand by my opinion that they are nothing more than stop-having-fun-guys.

When you're disconnected from purpose, you serve the Enemy. The purpose of being polite isn't to lose. It's to win without being disliked as much. If you're losing you need to stop being polite.

"All this added non-punctuation is completely unnecessary. If you want to say it, say it. If you don't, then don't."

It entertains us. Do you want to join the list of things that entertains us?

Blogger Stilicho September 06, 2019 6:29 PM  

Jewish alzheimers: when you forget everything but a grudge.

Blogger tublecane September 06, 2019 6:30 PM  

This Benjian hand-rubbing is akin to quibbling over whether this or that Hollywood scumbag deserves to be pitched for such-and-such outrage. Or just how serious pedo-jokes should be taken. Who cares? It's the enemy hurting itself.

Wake me when they stand strong for Muh Principles next time a racist white racist is fired for shaping bagels into hooked crosses or whatever.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) September 06, 2019 6:33 PM  

VD
And yet somehow, for some reason, (((conservatives)))

45. sumdudesfrysauce September 06, 2019 6:12 PM
What's (((with all))) these -> ((())) going on? I feel like I'm reading the vapid screeching of (((ttylbrblolroflomgwtfbbq)))!!!!111!!1! twats.



if you're so convinced Vox is a twat, why do you read here?

Blogger DannyDanger September 06, 2019 6:50 PM  

Probably OT but related to the culture war: I have recently been sending in editorials my local newspaper where there is a 300 word limit for submissions. Until now, I have been submitting pure dialectic to maximize the use of the space. Recently I have been attacked by 2 separate sources for my submissions. It is obvious to me that both sources are A) low-intellect SJWs and B) expose their stupidity in their submissions attacking me.

My question to the group is: what is the proper way to deal with this sort of conflict? Should I use my next 300 word opportunity to respond to their weak arguments directly, or should I just continue with my dialectical submissions and ignore them completely?

I am at a toss up for whether or not the average reader will be more interested in a continuation of the point I was driving or if a lack of rebuttal will be seen as an admission of weakness.

Thanks for any reply. (If too OT, I apologize in advance and will not post similarly if informed.)

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) September 06, 2019 7:17 PM  

51. DannyDanger September 06, 2019 6:50 PM
Should I use my next 300 word opportunity to respond to their weak arguments directly, or should I just continue with my dialectical submissions and ignore them completely?


wrong.

you deal with Rhetoricians by destroying them Rhetorically.

ask them why they want to vote for child molestor Joe.

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 06, 2019 7:25 PM  

"Do you want to join the list of things that entertains us?"

That did make me laugh (thank you).

Right up there with 'Is it safe?' (said in ones very best German Laurence Olivier accent).

Blogger DannyDanger September 06, 2019 7:29 PM  

@52
furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) wrote:
wrong.

you deal with Rhetoricians by destroying them Rhetorically.


So the bottom line is they must be addressed?

Rhetoric with rhetoric - dialectic with dialetic? (as a go-to?)

Thanks

Blogger sumdudesfrysauce September 06, 2019 7:32 PM  

furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) wrote:

if you're so convinced Vox is a twat, why do you read here?


Huh. Don't remember saying that but I do remember, however poorly, one of vox's comments about all that excessive "punctuation" being a sign of a gamma or girl. Something like that.

Blogger tublecane September 06, 2019 7:58 PM  

@55- It's called the (((echo))). It's a meme. Look it up.

Blogger SirHamster September 06, 2019 8:03 PM  

Smart Boy confuses parenthetical asides with echoes.

Awaits applause and sexy women throwing themselves at his rapier wit.

Blogger J Van Stry September 06, 2019 8:17 PM  

Paul H Jossey, who I guess is supposed to be some sort of 'conservative' told me to fuck myself when I said Bill Maher should be fired, because those are the rules and people on the left should be held to them, just like they hold everyone on the right to them.

Blogger Cyril September 06, 2019 8:39 PM  

They tend to be funded by Jews

Blogger Taqiyyotomist September 06, 2019 8:52 PM  

Remember: sometimes things should not be explained. Let him figure it out, or not.

Blogger Tanjil Bren September 06, 2019 9:20 PM  

"...Because those are the rules..."

Leftists have only one rule, and it *never* applies to them.

Blogger John September 06, 2019 9:57 PM  

1 Thess 2:14-16

"For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last."

/shrug

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) September 06, 2019 10:16 PM  

54. DannyDanger September 06, 2019 7:29 PM
Rhetoric with rhetoric - dialectic with dialetic? (as a go-to?)



the use of Dialectic requires that all parties be:

1 - Intelligent enough to comprehend the terms being used within discussion

2 - Principled enough to deal honestly and forthrightly with the other parties in the discussion / debate

3 - Emotionally well balanced enough to not take being proven wrong or mistaken as a Narcissistic Injury

failure in any of these criteria means that attempting to reason with them Dialectically is not merely ineffectual, it is a category error.

a #2 or 3 mode failure will result in your interlocutor refusing to acknowledge the success of your argument simply because he's not going to admit that you "won". all Social Dominance displays fall under #2, your Cluster B neuro-deviants will fall under #3.

a #1 failure will never even comprehend that he lost the argument. regardless of how much you simplify the terms.

a failure in any single area renders your interlocutor incapable of being dealt with via Dialectic.

these categorizations ( Rhetorical and Dialectical ) have been known since at least Aristotle.


55. sumdudesfrysauce September 06, 2019 7:32 PM
Huh. Don't remember saying that


i quoted you making the accusation, dumbass.

if you want to retract your assessment, that's fine.

but
IF using the echos reveals rando commenters to be "twats" ( in your heuristic )
THEN Vox using echos likewise defines him as a "twat".

refusing to apply the heuristic to Vox because you want to create a special set aside for him only reveals you as unprincipled.



58. J Van Stry September 06, 2019 8:17 PM
because those are the rules and people on the left should be held to them, just like they hold everyone on the right to them.



you're wasting your time.

you should have said that Maher needs to be fired because he's a Jew who named his production company "Kid Love".



keeping Maher employed is not simply endorsement of pedophilia.

it's an endorsement of the Blood Libel of the Learned Elders of Zion.

i mean, you don't want to be on the side of Hitler, do you?

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa September 06, 2019 10:53 PM  

@HouellebecqGurl & other Alabamians. This all trace to Bear Bryant setting up football team to fail in 1970 against USC, so Bear get recruit black players (against wish of George Wallace and trustees who already tell Bear no). All Bear care about was win games--no logos in this man. Oh and by way, no one here tell anyone in Chief family this what Chief think of Bear Bryant (PBUH), or else Chief no can go home again........................
http://www.unz.com/sbpdl/the-death-of-legion-field-in-birmingha/

Blogger Wario's Mart September 06, 2019 11:05 PM  

Conservatives are simply traitorous. There is no question. They are going to deplatform and censor and prohibit any criticism of Jews. These scions of principle will sacrifice the first amendment for Israel. They will sacrifice the Treasury for Israel. They will sacrifice the rule of law for Israel. They will sacrifice their race for Israel. They will sacrifice their children for Israel. They will sacrifice running water and sanitation and literature and culture for Israel. They will sacrifice Jesus Christ for Israel.

And Instapundit are ground zero for these faggots.

Conservatives are not different to the progressives. They are going to happily vote for the imposition of the NKVD and the panopticon on the Goyim, because they have simply been unpersoned. It's quite vile.

You literally have to swear allegiance to either Israel or globohomo. One or the other. You can't do both. All the memes are true. If you ever simply in a truthful sense criticise anything that pertains to the Jews the conservatives will ban you, and then they will do their best to destroy you. It's quite amazing. It doesn't matter how basic the merits of the issue are. The Boomers are simply unsalvageable.

It's really depressing. Do not put your faith in Instapundit. They are as appropriated as Drudge Report.

Blogger Wario's Mart September 06, 2019 11:12 PM  

Oh well. When the Noahide laws are imposed, at least we will have experienced a tiny interlude of relative freedom.

Vox Day is the last principled conservative (I know he rejects the title, but I mean in the true sense) in the entire world.

It's amazing how Miles Mathis is right. Every, single, person, or, institution, is Jewish, or is in a state of obeisance to the Jews. Not in these sense of VD in simply recognising Israel's right to exist as any other nation. But in a virulent Mafiosi sense.

It really is true. All of the most purple supposed propaganda, is quite true. To oppose anything the Jews want even if it is your elimination, is to be anti-Semitic.

It was the same in 1810 as it was in 10AD as it was probably in Atlantis in 50,000 BC and before then, as it is in 2019.

I don't understand why Boomers are such incorrigible faggots. In a way they are worse then the Jews. The Jews are just behaving logically in accordance with the tenets of an amoral religion that is intrinsically racist and supremacist. The Boomers of Instapundit type are just ersatz atheists and evangelicals who happily will submit to anything and anyone that wears a Yarmulke and it's amazing to behold. I think Jews' contempt towards others must be magnified by this obeisance. It must puzzle them but also confirm for them the idea that they are the Chosen people, born to rule.

How can it be that unquestionably accepting the right of Israel to exist and the good parts of Jewry still makes you an anti-Semite if you question egregious flagrant breaches of the most basic principles. I just don't fucking understand it.

Anyway Conservatives are sub-humans and it's good to know they are going to be destroyed by either the left or the true right.

Blogger Wario's Mart September 06, 2019 11:14 PM  

(((Instapundit)))

(((Glenn Reynolds)))

(((Conservativism)))

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2019 11:22 PM  

furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) wrote:the use of Dialectic requires that all parties be:

Non-human
Persuasion via dialectic is simply impossible.
Pain is the only persuader, physical or emotional.

Blogger DannyDanger September 06, 2019 11:48 PM  

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Blogger Lazarus September 06, 2019 11:50 PM  

Alexamenos wrote:I've seen a fair number of people over the years who are very adept at noting the direction the herd is moving and then moving out in front as if they're leading.

But a true leader is not so easy to find. In fact, a lack of true leadership is one of the signs of our times. The Talmud predicts this state of affairs when it says: "The face [i.e. the leadership] of [the] generation [immediately preceding the Messianic Redemption] will be like the face of a dog." One explanation: Just as a dog runs ahead of its master but turns around to make sure it's going in the direction its master wants it to go, so too our leaders

Fun fact. A recent DNA test has suggested my mystery grandfather might be one Alexander Menos.

Just a crazy coincidence.

Blogger DannyDanger September 07, 2019 12:05 AM  

furor kek tonicus ( racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted honkies made Hindus stop burning their wives, WhiteManBad ) wrote:1 - Intelligent enough to comprehend the terms being used within discussion

2 - Principled enough to deal honestly and forthrightly with the other parties in the discussion / debate

3 - Emotionally well balanced enough to not take being proven wrong or mistaken as a Narcissistic Injury

failure in any of these criteria means that attempting to reason with them Dialectically is not merely ineffectual, it is a category error.



OK - Thank you for helping me understand the rules for general argument using dialectic; I am better for it.

That being said, my million dollar question is still whether or not I should bother addressing the lame arguments from the SJWs attacking me. I am limited to 300 words and the frequency is 1 week.

I am most interested in reaching the neutral parties, as it is apparent based on the furor's post that I have no chance of reaching my opponents...

Blogger Garuna September 07, 2019 1:03 AM  

Why are some commenters unable to write something normal? All this added non-punctuation is completely unnecessary. If you want to say it, say it. If you don't, then don't.

Shut the fuck up, moron.

but I do remember, however poorly, one of vox's comments about all that excessive "punctuation" being a sign of a gamma or girl

No, gamma is when other men think you're a faggot and girls think you're creepy. That is sadly only your problem not any of ours. Now piss off.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( honkeys are not human so it's okay to hate them, WhiteManBad ) September 07, 2019 1:08 AM  

71. DannyDanger September 07, 2019 12:05 AM
That being said, my million dollar question is


your million dollar question is "what will the curators of the editorial page let me get away with".

because if you go all crazy ivan with an exact replication of my suggestion upthread, you're probably going to get an instaban.

you need to make a close examination of the official posting rules and policies
AS WELL AS
getting a feel for how the moderation is actually applied.

there is a difference between the rules-as-written and the rules-as-applied ... and the gulf can be quite extreme.

i suspect that in your case, they will prohibit direct personal attacks on other posters. likewise, they will probably be rather humorless with regard to critiquing idiots like Jussie Smollett.

my recommended tactic for an editorial page would be to take poorly thought out policies or lines of reasoning which have already been expressed by the idiots
...
and apply those standards to things that they have no intention of applying them too.

even if you wind up getting a ban or suspension, you're liable to take them out with you as the editorial staff won't want to be too blatantly biased.


68. Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2019 11:22 PM
Non-human


i shall have to inform those whom i have convinced via Dialectic of their Neanderthal admixture.

because i have done that.

in fact, i did it to Wheeler. which was rather shocking to me, as i hadn't suspected that he was susceptible to Dialectic.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 07, 2019 1:41 AM  

furor kek tonicus ( honkeys are not human so it's okay to hate them, WhiteManBad ) wrote:because i have done that.
My statement was, of course, rhetorical. The point it, dialectic is surprisingly ineffective, especially amongst those who claim to be guided by it.
Therefore debating is a waste of time. Therefore dialecticians are ether autistic or gay.

Blogger Julian Assad September 07, 2019 2:48 AM  

It's hard to find a right-winger Ekaterina hasn't attacked. Milo, Vox, Cernovich, Molyneux, Owen, Gavin McGingus, PJW, Andrew Breitbart, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Ron Paul and even little old Tom Woods she has all attacked. She also attacks Rubin, Roseanne, and her fellow trotskyites - Prager and Shapiru - for not being sufficiently left-wing.

Who does she come running to defense of tho? James Gunn and Woody Allen:
https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/1020449005803835392
https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/1020440225447907333
https://archive.fo/DCXfB
https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/960909356614242304

Blogger Dave Dave September 07, 2019 3:01 AM  

I agree with Snidely. Dialectic doesn't work. There's a very small percentage of people that can be convinced by dialectic, and they don't need our help to change their minds. They'll come to in due time. If you're not focusing on rhetoric then you're dumber than you think.

Blogger Sargent.matrim September 07, 2019 4:51 AM  

There's an approved opposition guy here in Australia, an Anglican "conservative" minister who thinks the best quality of Christianity is "that we are called to lose well".

Makes me sick. Makes even more sick how many Christian's agree with him.

We are called to turn the other cheek, not bend over and open them.

Blogger Dave Dave September 07, 2019 5:15 AM  

@77. Losing with dignity is a much worse outcome than winning by dirty means. If our opposition is as bad as we say, we cannot afford to lose.

Blogger BastionHarm September 07, 2019 6:23 AM  

Sargent.matrim wrote:
We are called to turn the other cheek, not bend over and open them.


Judging by all the Protestant churches around here flying the LGBTQ flags on their electronic marquees, apparently you are supposed to bend over and open up your cheeks. The way they "celebrate" it, you'd think it is a new sacrament.

Blogger qualitycontrol September 07, 2019 6:40 AM  

Didn't Ben Shapiro advocate for ruining the lives of so called 'racists'?

Blogger Sargent.matrim September 07, 2019 6:46 AM  

@qualitycontrol. Like people who claim to have 100% pure DNA? Which I still can't believe Shapiru just shrugged off.

Blogger Ryan September 07, 2019 7:05 AM  

Shapiro’s ship is sinking fast. I wonder how long before guys like him and Kristol look for greener pastures other than the USA

Blogger The Cooler September 07, 2019 7:11 AM  

@82 They are not going anywhere, bud. Not voluntarily. They are gonna ride this thing 'til the wheels fall off. There are more than a few lugs loose already and the vehicle shimmies at 25 and over. Buckle up.

Blogger JAG September 07, 2019 8:20 AM  

Who is this "Shapiro" guys some of you are going on about? I know of Ben Shapiru, but Shapiro is new by me.

Blogger Akuma September 07, 2019 8:46 AM  

"Dialectic doesn't work...If you're not focusing on rhetoric then you're dumber than you think."

Rhetoric won't work half the time either. Most people just resort to the "Nobody Cares" autopilot. Humans have a strong aversion to change of any kind. What I really want to know though is who is this Nobody and why do they care?

Blogger Dave Dave September 07, 2019 9:42 AM  

@85. Not true. The people on autopilot will always agree to good rhetoric and repeat that within their own circles.

Blogger NRx September 07, 2019 10:27 AM  

"Shapiro’s ship is sinking fast."

Hes a paid whore and he still has bluepilled "conservative" followers. He'll get paid a bit less but unfortunately until the Republic goes away you'll still be hearing about him...

Another good reason to support Trump becoming Emperor unironically.

Blogger Newscaper312 September 07, 2019 10:36 AM  

Over at Instapundit Ive been noticing more and more and more of my fellow commenters there sound like they lurk here, ref the professors post on this same topic this morning.
Thats cool. Cooler still if the awareness is due to wider ripple effects.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim September 07, 2019 11:05 AM  

Ole Miss changed their mascot from Rebels to “Brown Bears” then Land Sharks all in the virtuous quest to reject anything reflecting southern heritage. They then removed the state flag from the campus. Academia absorbs people from all over the country and infects the young all over.

Blogger urthshu September 07, 2019 11:10 AM  

To clarify for me, rhetoric does not always equal invective. Is that correct? As a viral joke isn't necessarily, but is still effective rhetoric?

Blogger Scott September 07, 2019 11:23 AM  

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Blogger Scott September 07, 2019 12:11 PM  

Your instincts are to avoid conflict. Your instincts are wrong. Scalp them.

Blogger d September 07, 2019 12:14 PM  

To be fair, the candy-ass Cons never needed a beanied Pied Piper to adopt a strategy of "Victory through active submission."

They were thus even before their former, leather-faced leader proffered his tea-and-crumpets approach to the Pol Pot fan boys of Harvard Law, even as Western communists were taking out POTUS, lobbing pipe bombs into college buildings, blowing up police officers (Obama's mentor), and advocating for the Jim Jones family model to replace "the nuclear family". All that was done in broad daylight and from high office. The Cons surrendered to all that and a shit-ton more without so much as a suggestion of reconstituting a republic.

It appears the incremental nature of the monotonic degeneracy is what has each successive generation so bewildered as to where we are and which way is up. It's uplifting to see signs of life here. Just as degeneracy has no bottom, it's never too late until you're dead. Godspeed.

Blogger Horace September 07, 2019 12:17 PM  

Yes, rhetoric is not good or bad like good or evil. Most of the time people sit on rhetorical high horses behind stone walls of intellect they believe to be the most fortified. Rhetoric has to be crafted for audiences in order to be accepted. In other words as Nate says, taken beyond the stone wall and onto their horse. The wisest thing is to refrain from building or attacking any wall, less it be of fire, this to the outsider is seen as this nobody cares dynamic, but it is the most powerful strategy there is.

"who is this nobody and why do they care?"

He is Jesus Christ and the antichristes of all nations need to force him to accept reincarnation so he can once again bear the punishment of prometheus for thirteen hundred years, if they fail they will have to take his place as may occur in the forthcoming protogenoial audit.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 07, 2019 12:34 PM  

urthshu wrote:To clarify for me, rhetoric does not always equal invective. Is that correct? As a viral joke isn't necessarily, but is still effective rhetoric?
No, invective falls into Aristotle's 3rd category.

Akuma wrote:Rhetoric won't work half the time either.

Yes, that category. Pain is the only way to move the opinions of a large number of people.

Blogger pilgrims progress September 07, 2019 1:11 PM  

"They will sacrifice Jesus Christ for Israel."

Wait, they already did that a long time ago. You mean CUCKservaTARDS have the same evil spirit as the hypocritical pharisees that Christ condemned to hell!? YEP, I learned that after moving to Idaho.

Blogger Crew September 07, 2019 1:41 PM  

I have not, as I recall, seen anyone calling themselves a "Progressive" Conservative yet, but it seems to me, "progressive" mostly means "non"!

Progressive 'Christian' Pete Buttigieg Doesn't Seem to Understand His Own 'Faith'

Blogger John Bradley September 07, 2019 1:41 PM  

Given that nobody pays any attention whatsoever to Amanda Marcotte these days, perhaps it's time to update Ace's old observation:

"No public controversy is complete until Ben Shapiru makes a complete fool of himself about it."

Blogger rumpole5 September 07, 2019 2:01 PM  

They accuse the new right folks of being ugly when what is really happening is that the new right is just being the mirror that reflects back the ugly features to the left, right - back - at -'em.

Blogger Shimshon September 07, 2019 2:06 PM  

"but I do remember, however poorly, one of vox's comments about all that excessive "punctuation" being a sign of a gamma or girl"

No, you are not correct (that is, you are wrong). The comment was (specifically) about the (feminine) habit of explaining (parenthetically), by (excessive) use of...you know...parentheses when they write, and (also) their walls of text. So, (and to summarize) lots of parentheses in particular and lots of text in general.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl September 07, 2019 3:32 PM  

I know. It's terribly sad what has happened.

Blogger wahr01 September 07, 2019 6:54 PM  

Sterling Pilgrim wrote:Ole Miss changed their mascot from Rebels to “Brown Bears” then Land Sharks...

Can they be convinced to adopt the "Land Whales" moniker?

Blogger DannyDanger September 08, 2019 3:58 PM  

@73
furor kek tonicus ( honkeys are not human so it's okay to hate them, WhiteManBad ) wrote:my recommended tactic for an editorial page...

Thanks to you and others who have taken the time to address the rhetoric vs dialectic as a tool in the culture war.

Armed with my re-invented rhetorical approach, those locals will wish they never tried criticizing my editorials on the Beatles being the greatest band of all time!

(Serious thank you though, especially the Furor)

Blogger Up from the pond September 09, 2019 6:54 PM  

@65

Ditto re.: Instapundit.

It's an IDW avant le pixel.

The number of non-Jews connected with it must be more than zero but has to be less than one.

Blogger Obama's boyfriend September 10, 2019 3:48 AM  

Why is it that the people that always say gentleman don't play that way seem to glory in having their faces ground in dog dirt and refuse to do the same to their enemies? They then wonder why they continue to get their faces ground in dog dirt regularly.

To these snowflakes and Fredos I say take a knove and insert it it in an electric outlet and hold it in there as long as you can. Its good for your character.

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