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Thursday, September 12, 2019

The pivot to China is definitely off

It's fascinating to see that Spengler is no longer writing about the tremendous respect the Chinese harbor for his people and how amazingly similar they are.
The world will become a Chinese company store: Chinese banks will lend the money, Huawei will build the broadband network and sell the handsets, Alibaba and JD.Com will market the products, Ant Financial will make micro-loans, and Chinese companies will build airports and railroads and ports. As an investment banker for a Hong Kong boutique from 2013 to 2016, I saw this first hand, and reported it here. Among other things, Huawei is building most of Mexico’s new national broadband network, including 5G capability, in a consortium with Nokia financed by a group led by Morgan Stanley and the International Finance Corporation. Huawei also dominates telecommunications infrastructure in Brazil and other Latin American countries. China’s tech dominance in America’s neighborhood, remarkably, has occasioned no official comment from Washington.

In my view, this is far more alarming than what Gertz envisions. He writes, “China will control all deals and win any business arrangements it seeks by dominating the information domain and thus learning the positions of bidders and buyers. All Chinese companies will be given advantages in the marketplace.”

That simply isn’t the way things work. China will lock whole countries into Chinese hardware through state-financed national broadband networks, including Brazil and Mexico, where construction is underway. It understands the network effect that made Amazon and Facebook dominant players in the U.S. market, and will use its financial and technological head start to establish the same sort of virtual monopoly for Chinese companies throughout the Global South....

In China’s view, the “Century of Humiliation” that lasted from the First Opium War of 1848 to the Communist Revolution of 1949 was a temporary aberration that displaced China from its dominant position in the world economy, a position the present dynasty seeks to restore. If we do not want this to happen, we will have to dominate critical technologies, including quantum computing, quantum communications, broadband, Artificial Intelligence, and missile defense.
We, David? There is no we. Your short-sighted, self-centered tribe destroyed America and demoralized Western civilization because it harbors pathological hatred for Greece, Rome, and Christianity. But now you're finally beginning to figure out that the Chinese are going to be considerably less tolerant of your subversive shenanigans than the West ever was and you're utterly terrified as a result.

But who is going to protect you when you have chopped down all the trees that might have sheltered you? China is demonstrating the salient difference between power and influence, between external competition and internal subversion.

I definitely prefer Western civilization. But if forced to choose between Chung Kuo and Babel 2.0, I'll take the former every time.

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Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 12, 2019 11:47 AM  

The Chinese actually think that (((they))) are clever, shrewd people, and that (((they))) are the true controllers of the U.S.. But don't you dare say that if you're a Westerner/Edomite.

Blogger RobertDWood September 12, 2019 11:48 AM  

VD, you have considerable experience and perspective on the Japanese. Given the choice of Chung Kuo or Babel 2.0, which is preferred by that Nation?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 12, 2019 11:52 AM  

A shitty choice by any metric

Blogger Jab Burrwalky September 12, 2019 11:53 AM  

So the jew is whining about being out-jewed. Hilarious. I think the tribe will find it much harder to subvert a people they don't look remotely like and who may have a greater sense of impenetrable racial superiority than even they do.

Blogger Rick September 12, 2019 12:03 PM  

“we will have to dominate critical technologies, including quantum computing, quantum communications, broadband, Artificial Intelligence, and missile defense.”

Another Time Magazine cover.

Blogger The Cooler September 12, 2019 12:14 PM  

The Chosen are running out of connoisseurs of culture. Whatever shall (((they))) do?

Blogger ar10308 September 12, 2019 12:15 PM  

The Chinese have a few innate defenses against (((subversion))).
The standard "Judeo-Confucian/Tao/Buddhist Values" wizardry isn't going to work on them. And their dicks are too small to clip, so that one is out the window too.

Blogger VD September 12, 2019 12:17 PM  

Given the choice of Chung Kuo or Babel 2.0, which is preferred by that Nation?

Japan is already beginning to pivot towards China. Remember that they inherited many important cultural elements from China, including their writing system. Bable 2.0 harbors little appeal to them.

Blogger The Observer September 12, 2019 12:17 PM  

VD, you have considerable experience and perspective on the Japanese. Given the choice of Chung Kuo or Babel 2.0, which is preferred by that Nation?

China, Japan and Korea have been messing with each other since time immemorial, for at least a millenia. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

At least China isn't trying to actively spread bioleninist degeneracy and push for immigration.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 12, 2019 12:20 PM  

The west will regain her glory, if not now, some time in the future. But now is the time to pull weeds.

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 12, 2019 12:21 PM  

"We, David?"

Who's this "we" you talkin about Private Goldman?!

You gotta mouse in your pocket?!

Blogger Rick September 12, 2019 12:21 PM  

Skynet will save us, he said.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia September 12, 2019 12:27 PM  

VD Wrote:

I definitely prefer Western civilization. But if forced to choose between Chung Kuo and Babel 2.0, I'll take the former every time.

Of course, should Chung Kuo come to pass, you have to hope that your social credit score is high enough so when the famine comes, you get to eat.

And that Christianity thing may have to go by the wayside -- opiate of the people, etc., etc. -- so there's that.

Blogger VD September 12, 2019 12:31 PM  

And that Christianity thing may have to go by the wayside -- opiate of the people, etc., etc. -- so there's that.

It won't.

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years. The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov September 12, 2019 12:31 PM  

A massive investment in 5G in Mexico, huh. I wonder who thinks that will ever turn a profit? If the Chinese are collectively good at anything, it massive capital mal-investment.

Blogger Ingemar September 12, 2019 12:36 PM  

Nikolai,

I think they are betting on overtaking the America's demographically in a century or two.

Blogger tuberman September 12, 2019 12:42 PM  

13. KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia

It's called Rhetoric, and it's especially apt against David's latest fears.

So now the Chinese will not only eat our cats and dogs, our Jews are on their menu. The Chinese are not just taking over Hollyweird, suing the Jews out of their huge share of Ivy League places, but I'm sure they've made it obvious that Jews will not have a place in China to hide if the USA goes South.

Poll: It's not cannibalism if Chinese eat Jews: (In spite of Jews pushing cannibalism lately)

O Agree
O Could lead to bad indigestion.

Blogger Cyril September 12, 2019 12:43 PM  

They have ONE question - "Is it good for the Jews?" And they can't even get that one right.

Blogger xevious2030 September 12, 2019 12:48 PM  

The nature of that tribe is one of the best weapons against them. They, as a group with their heads, can be counted on to engage in certain behavioral patterns, almost as a matter of clockwork. For all their claims of intellect, they can be counted on to being some of the biggest NPCs of all. Even so, they do leave a trail of devastation in their wake, and bodies piled high in the killing fields they create.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov September 12, 2019 12:50 PM  

I don't know. A decade or two is the providence of man. A century or two is to providence of God. But within a decade or two, the Chinese have their own demographic problems.

Blogger Dwayne Thundergrit September 12, 2019 12:52 PM  

I don't think tossing six million sob stories on the table is going to impress the Chinese the way it's been used to cow Western nations into submission, either. The Chinese will just say, "I see your six million and raise you twenty-four million" and then deal the post-WWII cards opening with sixty million.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim September 12, 2019 12:53 PM  

There is considerable growth of Christianity going on in China, perhaps their future looks more like Christendom than predicted. Even if all they do is permit Christians to live somewhere protected from the moon cult, that’s a brighter prospect than some.

Blogger MichaelJMaier September 12, 2019 12:53 PM  

The Chinese are competitors to (((them))). Thomas Sowell wrote decades ago about how the Chinese are the Jews of Asia, despised middle-men.

For people that preen about being SOOOOOOO smart, (((they're))) awfully dum.

Blogger John Kim September 12, 2019 1:05 PM  

Quantum computing as I know it is fake. Science lies about so many things that if it seems too good to be true its usually not true.

Blogger Argus Bacchus September 12, 2019 1:06 PM  

(((We)))

Blogger tuberman September 12, 2019 1:09 PM  

What's amazing is the Tribe's hate got in their way of seeing how this was always going to turn out with the Chinese. The Chinese have been manipulating them all along.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2019 1:09 PM  

About the time the DoJ and FTC started digging into Google/Facebook/etc and Americans began really noticing how evil those companies are, I started seeing scare stories about these Chinese companies becoming a huge threat overnight. Maybe they are. But it sure looks like an attempt to get us to seek refuge in the Fake American tech companies, pressuring the Trump administration to let them off the hook so they can defend us.

And since those Fake American companies currently control the "information domain" in the West, who else but they could be pushing that narrative? Huawei and Alibaba could be no more dangerous than mom-and-pop competitors these companies have destroyed, and the headlines would be the same.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2019 1:10 PM  

“we will have to dominate critical technologies, including quantum computing, quantum communications, broadband, Artificial Intelligence, and missile defense.”

So far, 0 for 5....Maybe we should send back some of the minor leaguers...

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon September 12, 2019 1:10 PM  

". If we do not want this to happen, we will have to dominate critical technologies, including quantum computing, quantum communications, broadband, Artificial Intelligence, and missile defense."

Well, given that ~ 50% of STEM PhD students in US universities are Chinese, good luck with that.

The remaining 50% are mostly Indians and other third worlders (e.g., Arabs, etc). In my PhD program in a top ten department, there were maybe 15 white males out of 250+ PhD students. There were more Iranian women than white males, if you can believe it.

And who, exactly, wanted to flood the USA with non-Europeans? Who gave preference in STEM programs to Chinese, Indians and the rest?

Oh right, the same group of rootless cosmopolitans.

Blogger VD September 12, 2019 1:11 PM  

it sure looks like an attempt to get us to seek refuge in the Fake American tech companies, pressuring the Trump administration to let them off the hook so they can defend us.

(nods)

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon September 12, 2019 1:12 PM  

@27

"About the time the DoJ and FTC started digging into Google/Facebook/etc and Americans began really noticing how evil those companies are, I started seeing scare stories about these Chinese companies becoming a huge threat overnight"

What are you talking about? Facebook and Google are not Chinese. They are both decidedly Jewish, with ties to DARPA, InQTel and the defence/intelligence community.

Those companies certainly have a ton of Chinese workers, and they are playing a role in deliberately importing foreigners. Google told Norm Matloff that they want about 30% of their hires to be foreign, which is a complete abuse of the H1B visa program.

Blogger VD September 12, 2019 1:13 PM  

What are you talking about? Facebook and Google are not Chinese. They are both decidedly Jewish, with ties to DARPA, InQTel and the defence/intelligence community.

Congratulations. You completely missed the point.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2019 1:13 PM  

@24 Quantum computing as I know it is fake. Science lies about so many things that if it seems too good to be true its usually not true.

So far, it's right up there with fusion power and nanotech--technology of a future that never happens.

Blogger David Ray Milton September 12, 2019 1:14 PM  

To those who might despair about China becoming the dominant world power and how they may treat Christians, just stop. Remember that there was once an all-powerful empire called Rome that viciously persecuted Christians. Within a few centuries, that empire became Christian, at least nominally. Jesus has this way of bringing rulers to their knees.

Blogger Jandolin September 12, 2019 1:17 PM  

Look at the bright side of Chinese world domination. Americans will be spared the ignominy of paying trillions of dollars for Israel's wars.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim September 12, 2019 1:21 PM  

He is sovereign and we are selfish to fear the movement of pebbles down the mountain of His plan.

Blogger kurt9 September 12, 2019 1:24 PM  

"I definitely prefer Western civilization. But if forced to choose between Chung Kuo and Babel 2.0, I'll take the former every time."

Let me ask you this. Which setup, Chung Kuo or Babel 2.0, do you think offers more opportunity for to succeed in their own endeavors as entrepreneurs and the like?

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 12, 2019 1:24 PM  

When I last checked, every damned organization, NGO, university, and media group was not full of Chinese names.
They are full of names that have a lot of (()) going on.

The funniest part is if they manage to "brown" America. Hispanics don't give one shit about "muh holocaust".

The Chinese are worst racists than whites and way more brutal too. Wait'll we see what they do to Africa. But IMO the Africans deserve the Chinese.

In the end though, all civilizations fall. The big difference to look out for is if the people are replaced or not. Rome fell, but where they replaced? Greece fell, but even Muslim invasion didn't erase them. That's how insidious this invasion and host-collapse is of late. They hate us so bad that merely destroying our birthright is not enough.
It's a form of genocide. Except without death camps, and they can say "Why, little ol' me? I'd never hurt a flah, you dirty goy".

But every one of them does have a country to go running to when America is too jacked up to live in.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2019 1:24 PM  

The Chinese are, and always have been, the moneylenders of Asia, and therefore a hated minority in most Asian countries...It takes one to know (((one))).

Blogger Brett baker September 12, 2019 1:25 PM  

They probably see it as take losses now for profits later.

Blogger Brett baker September 12, 2019 1:26 PM  

The pork chops they'll wash down afterwards will cancel the bad effects.

Blogger Brett baker September 12, 2019 1:28 PM  

(Facepalm)

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2019 1:33 PM  

@31 Jim, I may have been unclear. By "these Chinese companies" I meant the ones like Huawei that are suddenly being presented as a threat. My comment should make more sense with that in mind.

Blogger steb September 12, 2019 1:33 PM  

If they'd offer enough freedom of religion for me to practise my faith, while keeping enough control to make sure the worldly, campaigning priests are kept quiet, the only major objection I'd have to a Chinese takeover would be them cracking down on pedestrians crossing the road before the light changes, which I think they're pretty strict on. But maybe I could get used to even that in exchange for the death penalty for littering.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2019 1:35 PM  

So far, [quantum computing is] right up there with fusion power and nanotech

I would classify it more with the warp drive in Star Trek: the nerds have all the math worked out, now we just need the dilithium crystals and we're all set.

Blogger Crew September 12, 2019 1:35 PM  

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years. The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America.

This is an interesting phenomenon and I wonder if they have a particularly Chinese take on Christianity and are perhaps moving in the same direction as Hong Xiuquan and the Taiping rebellion.

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis September 12, 2019 1:40 PM  

Does Western Civilization include Russia and Eastern Orthodoxy?

Blogger Crush Limbraw September 12, 2019 1:44 PM  

Jeff Thomas (at Doug Casey's site) wrote an interesting parallel to this a few days ago - https://internationalman.com/articles/brothers-in-arms/ - comparing the Rothschilds and the Chinese approach to power.

Blogger Unknown September 12, 2019 1:45 PM  

This is LIBRARY!

Blogger Jab Burrwalky September 12, 2019 1:45 PM  

Hopefully the Chinese don't adopt the judeo-christian heresy along with their Christianity.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 12, 2019 1:48 PM  

kurt9 wrote:Let me ask you this. Which setup, Chung Kuo or Babel 2.0, do you think offers more opportunity for to succeed in their own endeavors as entrepreneurs and the like?
Neither if you're not a member of their clan. FFS, are you trying to pretend that any of this is about "LIBERTY"?

Doktor Jeep wrote:Greece fell, but even Muslim invasion didn't erase them.
Tell that to the Constantinopolitans.

Blogger Karhu September 12, 2019 1:56 PM  

@29 Jim the Curmudgeon

"And who, exactly, wanted to flood the USA with non-Europeans? Who gave preference in STEM programs to Chinese, Indians and the rest?

Oh right, the same group of rootless cosmopolitans."

Another example of Every. Single. Time. In 1984 Reagan appointed as head of the National Science Foundation one (((Erich Bloch))), who was not a scientist, did not even have a Ph.D. A few years later, the NSF started the "we're paying too much for scientific labor" scam, making graduate programs very attractive for Third Worlders and even less than it was for Americans. And successfully increased the STEM labor pool to drive wages down.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 12, 2019 1:57 PM  

Aquila Aquilonis wrote:Does Western Civilization include Russia and Eastern Orthodoxy?
Western, as understood historically, is explicitly in contradistinction to the Eastern Roman Empire. So if it was ruled from Constantinopolis, it is Eastern. The line is Poland, but not Germany, Hungary, but not Austria, Albania but not Italy are Eastern.

Blogger The Cooler September 12, 2019 2:01 PM  

Does Western Civilization include Russia

Russia is Russia in the same way Texas is Texas.

Blogger David Ray Milton September 12, 2019 2:03 PM  

@Snidely Whiplash

And indeed, Russian sees itself as the heir of the Eastern Roman Empire through dynasty lineage. They see themselves as the third Rome.

It might be helpful to add also that since Russia did not go through the same toxic enlightenment that the west did (or so I have read), they are our philosophical cousins, but not our brothers.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len September 12, 2019 2:06 PM  

Why would the Jews of the Middle Kingdom want anything to do with the Jews of the Great Steppe? At least the Chinese don't meddle in pretense or self-pity. I mean, I haven't heard any Chinese moaning about the Opium Wars and shrieking "Never again!", they just openly pine for power cuz that's what they do.

Blogger kurt9 September 12, 2019 2:12 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:kurt9 wrote:Let me ask you this. Which setup, Chung Kuo or Babel 2.0, do you think offers more opportunity for to succeed in their own endeavors as entrepreneurs and the like?

Neither if you're not a member of their clan. FFS, are you trying to pretend that any of this is about "LIBERTY"?


Then its really doesn't matter which one prevails, does it?

Blogger Ant_B September 12, 2019 2:13 PM  

The tribe will ramp up the procreating with the Chinese to get a helping foothold.

Blogger DonReynolds September 12, 2019 2:14 PM  

I have no fear of the Chinese and they have no fear of me. I have no interest in ruling over any part of China and the Chinese have never in their history wanted to rule the world. Why? Because the Chinese see themselves as the center of the civilized world and they are surrounded by barbarians...which is the rest of the world. They also have zero interest in sharing China with barbarians. Do they like to trade? Of course, everyone wants to buy and sell, and they hope to benefit by trade in many ways. They are not up-tight Mandarins who reject everything that is not Chinese, that is why they copy EVERYTHING. And as long as they have the money to pay for it, I am delighted that they can and they will.

The Chinese do not hate me or my family or anyone I know, but we do have enemies who want us dead and destroyed, but they are not Chinese.

Blogger Robert Browning September 12, 2019 2:22 PM  

The Chinese aren't going to cave on Huawei. The Chinese will not allow western intelligence to have backdoor access into Huawei equipment. Trade war, Hong Kong protests have not yielded the desired results. The Chinese won't give in.

Blogger Gettimothy September 12, 2019 2:23 PM  

I think Steve Bannon has the better take and strategy in dealing with China as he explains it to Kyle Bass
in this lengthy interview

Bannon is playing to win while Spengler cowers.

Blogger kurt9 September 12, 2019 2:27 PM  

I know you guys don't like David Goldman. I get it. However, I fail to see how ramping up all areas of technological innovation on the part of the U.S., which he advocates, can be a bad thing.

Blogger xevious2030 September 12, 2019 2:27 PM  

Whining about the losing control of the things they intended for (((their))) own purposes, yep. Check, and check. Frankenstein’s monster, again. Que villagers and pitchforks.

Blogger Jab Burrwalky September 12, 2019 2:29 PM  

@kurt9

Objectively speaking it's not except that the people who own the tech are not americans and want to use it to enforce a police-state of globohomo Jew worship. So it's lose lose.

Blogger Jack Amok September 12, 2019 2:29 PM  

the tremendous respect the Chinese harbor for his people and how amazingly similar they are.

Those two things are mutually exclusive.

Blogger Jack Amok September 12, 2019 2:35 PM  

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years. The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America.

Does anyone have a good idea if it's Christianity or Churchianity growing in China? I can see either - lots of Churchian groups are big on missionary work (I wonder if China's lack of little girls is a 'problem' for them though).

Blogger Karhu September 12, 2019 2:38 PM  

@60 Robert Browning

"The Chinese aren't going to cave on Huawei. The Chinese will not allow western intelligence to have backdoor access into Huawei equipment...."

Someone had better tell the people who have the ability to execute their managers this, because right now "Western intelligence" barely has to lift a finger to get access. The U.K. as been auditing their source code and found the sort of colossal mess you expect from hardware companies. And over several years a total refusal to change their ways.

See for example el Reg in their typical style, "Huawei savaged by Brit code review board over pisspoor dev practices": https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/28/hcsec_huawei_oversight_board_savaging_annual_report/ Here they quote the auditors:

"In the first version of the software, there were 70 full copies of 4 different OpenSSL versions, ranging from 0.9.8 to 1.0.2k (including one from a vendor SDK) with partial copies of 14 versions, ranging from 0.9.7d to 1.0.2k, those partial copies numbering 304. Fragments of 10 versions, ranging from 0.9.6 to 1.0.2k, were also found across the codebase, with these normally being small sets of files that had been copied to import some particular functionality."

In the next year they didn't materially improve that problem. The article then has this revealing quote:

"Analysis of relevant source code worryingly identified a number pre-processor directives of the form "#define SAFE_LIBRARY_memcpy(dest, destMax, src, count) memcpy(dest, src, count)", which redefine a safe function to an unsafe one, effectively removing any benefit of the work done to remove the unsafe functions."

Blogger Lucas September 12, 2019 2:39 PM  

oh, so now the Chinese are a threat, mr Learned Elder of Wye?

Blogger pnq87 September 12, 2019 2:46 PM  

If the Jews are instruments of Satan, then no race is safe from their machinations.

Blogger Beardy Bear September 12, 2019 2:48 PM  

God did not intervene in Han 1.0 (that we know of), he did in Babal 1.0. That should say a great deal about it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2019 2:59 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:Does anyone have a good idea if it's Christianity or Churchianity growing in China?

The unauthorized, persecuted church is growing rapidly. The Three Selves official church is also huge. Today, China probably has more people actually following Christ than the US does.

Blogger Azimus September 12, 2019 3:12 PM  

So if the pivot is off, is the tarriffs and sabre rattling the cause or the effect?

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 12, 2019 3:18 PM  

Now that it's their ox being gored they start with the vhining?!? Oy vey!!

Blogger Dangeresque September 12, 2019 3:25 PM  

The idea that they thought a pivot to China was ever going to be possible goes to show how dumb they are... Their subversion of the West worked largely because they were racially white and could blend in.

Blogger urthshu September 12, 2019 3:41 PM  

"and I wonder if they have a particularly Chinese take on Christianity"

Yes, there's a state version called the 3 Self Patriotic Movement which is as Christian as it sounds (not very) then countless secret home churches that get raided and destroyed, people sent to camps, etc

Blogger tuberman September 12, 2019 3:48 PM  

72. Azimus

Neither -- Best guess, there have been numerous signals all along by China that they were not on board, but as long as the Tribe thought the Globalist Agenda was moving forward the Tribe was not too worried. Lately, even people like Soros is stating the NWO is failing, including the EU, well, the Tribe's Elite are now looking deeply at the signals that they are getting from China. Those signals are not good, and in fact, have never been very good. China under economic pressure likely shows less of it's Panda Face to supposed NWO allies that they have always despised.

Blogger Steve September 12, 2019 3:56 PM  

The problem with Yellow Peril theory and associated chinky-dinkery is they're a hideously corrupt (to the point where newly built apartments just fall down due to the endemic goldbricking, cheating and swindling the Chinee truly excel at) whose demographics suck.

It's more likely that China will turn out to be basically a gigantic soy-sauce Ponzi scheme that'll go down the tubes as soon as the next major financial crisis hits than their rapidly ageing and brittle* society of incels and city girls who just can't be arsed having babies anymore somehow taking over the world and eating everybody's cats or whatever.

I remember the Japs - who are infinitely more honest, hardworking and creative than their Han cousins - were supposed to take over the global economy too.

*Regimes that are confident about the future don't need to dream up fiendishly elaborate techno-Fu-Manchu schemes for social control

Blogger pilgrims progress September 12, 2019 3:59 PM  

"It takes one to know (((one)))."

Heh.

Blogger tuberman September 12, 2019 4:05 PM  

People here often talk about war with the USA and China and Russia, but China and Russia are Nationalists first, and people in the C_A, Mos and other agencies have been bullying them whenever they can for years, pushing them to "get in line with the coming order". Yet, they also offer tremendous bribes to go along. And, yes, the Tribe's Elites are major players. Do you not think China and Russia has cooperated to allow certain operations to be taken down? Do you think there is any love lost between any of these? It's all manipulation and counter-manipulation.

Look at it this way. The Tribe and the rest of the Globalist were using bribes and subtle infiltration with force to get two Nationalist countries to become part of a Globalist Cult. How would that turn out?

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 12, 2019 4:17 PM  

Fake American tech companies indeed.
One good thing about outsourcing is that it result in less importation of H1B Pajeets.
I can see it now. "Oh dear we can't find enough people!"
...in come flooding more Pajeets than ever.
I grew up in a tech region before there was a silicon valley. In the 1980s I knew older people who were getting into electronics jobs at varying levels, some out of high school, some engineering post college.
All of them got training!
But now? Oh you need a master's and 5-7 years experience.
Unless you are a Pajeet fresh out of a certification Mill in India.
No return to US tech on government contract solely of defense requirements should happen without a restriction on H1B imports.
But... It's China that's going to be grabbler-free, not the USA so we know where that leads.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 12, 2019 4:18 PM  

@71

It's interesting isn't it, Christianity always thrives where it is openly persecuted. May not be long until the 3rd great awakening in America.

Blogger tuberman September 12, 2019 4:26 PM  

If you want to understand how the Chinese really feel about their NWO allies go back to the welcome BHO received while visiting China. No honor guard, and they forced him to get off the butt of AF1, sort like a turd.

Blogger VD September 12, 2019 4:30 PM  

I fail to see how ramping up all areas of technological innovation on the part of the U.S., which he advocates, can be a bad thing.

Because they aren't controlled by Americans.

Blogger rumpole5 September 12, 2019 4:42 PM  

To know the Chinese is to eventually dislike them. (I came to understand this merely by seeing what happens when large numbers of them come onto a cruise ship) Third worlders may accept Chinese blandishments and offers of "help" now, but I see pushback, expulsions, and expropriations of Chinese property in the future. I doubt that the Chinese will have any more luck with Mexico than did the French and Emperor Maximilian. I also doubt that their long term prospects are very good in Vancouver, Canada, either.

Blogger tuberman September 12, 2019 4:46 PM  

62. kurt9

These Tech Companies, in fact, were created specifically to help undermine the real America. They are not even independent companies, as they were funded and created by rogue agencies, and are still supported by laundered money sources. They do not even have to compete, as funds are assured as long as they do multiple things to prop up the Narrative.

Blogger Sam September 12, 2019 4:49 PM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:

In the end though, all civilizations fall. The big difference to look out for is if the people are replaced or not. Rome fell, but where they replaced? Greece fell, but even Muslim invasion didn't erase them.


Both of those civilizations suffered significant degrees of replacement- they had waves of invaders come in, rape and pillage. Greeks were also physically cleansed; they've lost all their eastern territory which is now part of Turkey (and the Turks are invaders from about the 11th century).

Blogger Iron Spartan September 12, 2019 4:57 PM  

What's the over under on when American cruise missiles hit mainland China at the order of the Tribe?

Or do Chinese missiles hit Tel Aviv via Iran/hezbollah/(ISIS offshoot of the week) when they get tired of the Tribe trying to push them?

Blogger Hari Seldon September 12, 2019 5:00 PM  

I remember being quite disturbed when Goldman started pivoting to China around 2008-2013. IIRC, around that time he co-wrote an essay with Francesco Sisci, the Beijing-friendly Italian journalist, about how the US and China should intensify their economic partnership - unfortunately the essay seems to have disappeared off the web (I wonder why).

Having apparently de-pivoted, Goldman is valuable insofar as he keenly understands the nature of the Chinese challenge and has excellent ideas about how the US can fight back. I think he's worth listening to for that reason. All things considered, I would vastly prefer the US to have the military and technological upper hand, rather than the Communist freakin' Party of China.

Blogger Sheila4g September 12, 2019 5:14 PM  

"I definitely prefer Western civilization. But if forced to choose between Chung Kuo and Babel 2.0, I'll take the former every time."

I'm with Murdoch-chan on this one. Yellow Dawn.

Blogger xevious2030 September 12, 2019 5:46 PM  

“I would vastly prefer the US to have the military and technological upper hand, rather than the Communist freakin' Party of China.”

Flooded southern border, abortion, trannies with their junk cut off so they don’t reproduce, make everyone gay or safe sexed for same, destruction of family. You are actively being genocided. Eradicated. Replaced as an air breather. China aside, that notion does not go in the category “preferable” for “white America,” to use common terms.

Blogger weka September 12, 2019 5:53 PM  

Dot take Charles Stross's laundry handwavium away!

Blogger weka September 12, 2019 5:54 PM  

Chung Kuo. Every Southern Chinese family, every Tong. Brit contract law and Chinese government does work.

Blogger xevious2030 September 12, 2019 5:55 PM  

Hari Seldon, you want to know what the super big secret plan was? Replace the "whites" of North America, with "Mexicans/Hispanics" being the easiest incoming transition with the least chaos or resistance due to certain presumed commonalities, and move China as the new world hegemon middle-manager. That was the plan. Which fell through, partly due to the foreseeable nature of the dishonest brokers. (((Their))) future didn't involve you, at all.

Blogger Gen. Kong September 12, 2019 6:28 PM  

Here's another smoke-signal of a possible shift in strateegery from the (((shiftiest folks evah))). The Nazi collaborator (and Jew hero) George Soros now supports Trump's tough stance against the Han.

That being said, the (((tribe))) has been at work amongst the Han for some time. Despite the source of the following, the outlines of the activities of the recently dead spawn-of-Satan Sidney Rittenberg are essentially true. It serves as another example of how (((they))) shift with ease - from die-hard Marxist ideologue to a biznissman looter. Once Mao was gone he "founded Rittenberg & Associates, a consulting firm for American companies doing business in China." Hopefully the Han have by now caught on to the scam which never ends.

Blogger Dave Dave September 12, 2019 6:42 PM  

The Chinese don't think Jews are smart. That's why they always outperform them in academics.

Blogger Gen. Kong September 12, 2019 6:42 PM  

For all their claims of intellect, they can be counted on to being some of the biggest NPCs of all. Even so, they do leave a trail of devastation in their wake, and bodies piled high in the killing fields they create.

Would the killing fields have been so full if they'd not had so many goyim choosing to believe the endless stream of lies which emanate from their pie-holes instead of what has been written and preached by Christ (who they despise above all else) and those who follow them? Whether it was monarchs using them to stripe mine the peasants or today's morons borrowing fake-money for useless degrees in feminist programming for their daughters, someone has to act upon their lies in order for their wizardry to have its full devilish effect.

Solzhenitsyn (whose final book 200 Years Together is still censored in the USSA - one can read it only via some samizdat translations online) had a great phrase which applies: Live not by lies!

Blogger Dave Dave September 12, 2019 6:44 PM  

Bad dichotomy. Japan has no threat of Babylon taking over like we do.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia September 12, 2019 7:00 PM  

VD wrote:And that Christianity thing may have to go by the wayside -- opiate of the people, etc., etc. -- so there's that.

It won't.

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years. The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America.


True enough, but as a percentage of the Chinese population, Christians are a little bit more than a rounding error.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Christianity_in_China

2% out of the population of 1.4 billion, as of the 2009 China General Social Survey, around 30 million or so.

There are 10 million or so Uyghurs in China.

https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China

If the Chicoms can suppress 10 million of one group, 30 million will take a bit longer, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a plan in some drawer in Beijing.

Catholics first, of course.

Blogger Didas Kalos September 12, 2019 7:29 PM  

I would wager 90% of my earthly goods (if gambling was not a sin) that there are more Christians in China today than in the USA. Church-goers? Different subject.

Blogger Centurion Revolt September 12, 2019 7:35 PM  

I despise the Chinese.

Blogger Paul M September 12, 2019 7:42 PM  

If we do not want this to happen, we will have to dominate critical technologies, including quantum computing, quantum communications, broadband, Artificial Intelligence, and missile defense.

No problemo - this would be the simplest thing in the world. Cancel *every* chinese student visa and send them home.

Blogger Centurion Revolt September 12, 2019 7:45 PM  

Yep those are just the kind of people we should surrender the world to. Your (collective) surrender to the Chinese is duly noted.

Defeatists.

Blogger Paul M September 12, 2019 7:48 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:
So far, it's right up there with fusion power and nanotech--technology of a future that never happens.

Nanotech is right on track. The processor in the machine you are using right now has working elements in the nanometre scale. They are starting to build circuits out of carbon fibre tubes.

Fusion power, on the other hand … sure would be nice.

Blogger Gettimothy September 12, 2019 8:02 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia wrote:VD wrote:And that Christianity thing may have to go by the wayside -- opiate of the people, etc., etc. -- so there's that.

It won't.

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years. The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America.

...
If the Chicoms can suppress 10 million of one group, 30 million will take a bit longer, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a plan in some drawer in Beijing.

Catholics first, of course.


What is the plan in the Catholic drawer? Roll over and die?

Blogger xevious2030 September 12, 2019 8:11 PM  

“in order for their wizardry to have its full devilish effect.”

The “goyim” have their share of responsibility. At the same time, we’ve had (((them))) around for quite some time. What changed to make the wizardry effective in a way it had not been before?

Blogger Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) September 12, 2019 8:12 PM  

@61 Steve Bannon, who once upon a time used to make sense criticizing the neocons for all their regime change plans in the middle east, is now openly calling for regime change in China. Which is not going to happen because China is not divided the way America is divided, and the vast majority of Chinese actually like and support the Chinese government, regardless of what western media says. Even if the west succeeded in tanking the Chinese economy, which I don't think they will, it would just further unite the Chinese against outside enemies because they have a strong sense of nationalism. And the fact that Bannon wants to do this, to crash their economy, which would cause incredible suffering for the Chinese people, shows what a callous and lying bastard he is and always has been. An Israel-First, Goldman Sachs-First piece of shit from day one, all that "Breitbart is the platform of the alt right" stuff was just his part in co-opting and then destroying that term.

Blogger Centurion Revolt September 12, 2019 8:16 PM  

I agree but apparently 2/3 of the commenters here don't.

Blogger Brett baker September 12, 2019 8:53 PM  

+1

Blogger jmzf September 12, 2019 9:12 PM  

Huawei CEO To Sell Entire 5G Technology Stack To American Companies In Shock Peace Deal With Trump

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2019/09/12/huawei-ceo-to-sell-entire-5g-technology-stack-to-american-companies-in-shock-peace-offer-to-trump/

Blogger PG September 12, 2019 9:16 PM  

Meanwhile in China, a short man with a tiny hat, Mr Ming Won Ton Du, opens his bagel shop. His first customer greets him warmly, how wonderful he thinks, it's is friend Mr Ling Ling Konu, from the bank.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2019 9:44 PM  

"But who is going to protect you when you have chopped down all the trees that might have sheltered you?"

The eternal parasitic paradox.

"But who is going to protect you when you have chopped down all the trees that might have sheltered you?"

"Then its really doesn't matter which one prevails, does it?"

You're as stupid as any idiot that actually refuses to vote for Trump over a single issue that the other side is even worse on.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2019 9:47 PM  

"Does anyone have a good idea if it's Christianity or Churchianity growing in China?"

Are you kidding? Churchianity is the rot of complacency. If you think Chinese Christians are complacent....

Blogger mrpinks September 12, 2019 10:22 PM  

A great stream on this subject today Dark Lord, and the questions did not stray off topic. And the small hats arent so smart, as stated in Peter Turchin's "War and Peace and War", the idea of the smart Ashkenazi was due to the small sample group of private school children.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( starting a petition to make "Strange Fruit" the national anthem, WhiteManBad ) September 12, 2019 10:50 PM  

88. Hari Seldon September 12, 2019 5:00 PM
Having apparently de-pivoted, Goldman is valuable insofar as he keenly understands the nature of the Chinese challenge and has excellent ideas about how the US can fight back.



let me know when he starts advocating for the elimination of "International Free Trade" and Central Banks.

until then, he's just doing his part to make things good for the juice.

Blogger Orfeo September 12, 2019 10:53 PM  

“I definitely prefer Western civilization. But if forced to choose between Chung Kuo and Babel 2.0, I'll take the former every time.”

I find it amusing when Americans say things like this, presumably because they aren’t being swamped by Chinese immigrants.

We in Australia are now being offered that choice and it’s not nearly so easy. The Chinese are utterly execrable people - venal, acquisitive and ruthlessly cunning.

Blogger Unknown September 12, 2019 10:55 PM  

But what about JUDEO-SINO values?

Blogger Hari Seldon September 12, 2019 11:33 PM  

Jack (LJCSOGHMOMAS) wrote:@61 Steve Bannon, who once upon a time used to make sense criticizing the neocons for all their regime change plans in the middle east, is now openly calling for regime change in China.

I find it bizarre. Bannon is really too smart for this. The most charitable interpretation is that he
sees regime change as a desirable long-term outcome rather than an actual policy the US should pursue. In any case I think his prescriptions for dealing with China are mainly on point, and I always relish his savaging of the US/European elite - which, as he makes clear, includes the investment banks - and its continued enabling of China's predatory behavior.

Blogger PG September 12, 2019 11:37 PM  

The Chinese that have moved here down under, the ones who are staying permanently that is, not the ones spying on us or ransacking the homes and offices of our anti Chinese academics or buying large amounts of cows and sheep, they don't paint a picture of China where Christians are about to have a bull run any time soon, in fact it's quite the opposite. They are never going back, because they'd be in big trouble if they did, dead it seems. Taiwan and Hong Kong might be different because they have a bigger Christian population, I personally don't consider them China, so business would be on the table for me.

However, if you are going to involve a Christianity variable, wouldn't it be better to use Australia, New Zealand, the UK, or even Russia for business alternatives?

Blogger Unknown September 13, 2019 10:59 PM  

Didn't the Jews recently get chased out of the Amsterdam diamond trade by the Paki's? Looks like they underestimated on a lot of fronts.

Blogger xevious2030 September 14, 2019 2:09 AM  

It is obvious there were plans for flooding the US, and for replacing the US on the world stage. Those that draw up plans, and those that implement them may have different motives. Plans for what to do if a civilization were to go extinct in a short time (for transitioning a handoff of one civilization to another), if drawn up for an unforeseen tragedy (disease), could be made to function differently and in a targeted way if the plans for transition were tried to be forced (invasion). The benefits of characteristics in common, in the latter case, may be outweighed by the differences, to the point of causing enough friction to end up blowing back on those attempting to engineer the forced replacement. In other words, such blowback provides opportunity, making the situation considerably more survivable by undercutting the influence that is needed in order to continue to force replacement. Morale and hope may provide the resolve to stand in the way of this force.

Blogger Gettimothy September 15, 2019 5:13 AM  

@117 Here, Bannon provides the subtext that underderlies his position.

The war is not just with China, but with America's cosmopolitan elites. China is their means, via deindustrialisation and the second opium war, this time upon us*.


*Curious if the original opium war was the brainchild of the Jews. Fits the modus of death. destroy non jews for the duty of it, profit, pin blane on British

Blogger mike September 16, 2019 1:21 AM  

China is garbage, pretend power

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