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Friday, October 18, 2019

China's grand strategy

An interesting perspective on what David Goldberg, for many years an opinion leader in the outdated "jump-to-China" plan, claims to perceive China's grand strategy to be.
China’s notion of what it means to be the world’s superpower is different from ours, though, and begs examination.

An Ideological and Economic Competitor

Earlier this month, Dr. Kiron Skinner, head of Policy Planning at the State Department, had this to say: “In China, we have an economic competitor, we have an ideological competitor, one that really does seek a kind of global reach that many of us didn’t expect a couple of decades ago, and I think it’s also striking that it’s the first time that we will have a great power competitor that is not Caucasian.”

 As Victor Davis Hanson observed, Japan was, in fact, a great power competitor, and a formidable one, from its crushing defeat of Russia in 1905 to the end of the Second World War.

To put the present situation in context: Japan’s GDP [Gross Domestic Product] in 1940 was one-fifth of America’s and its population only half. China’s GDP is roughly the same as ours (25 percent larger than ours in purchasing power parity, according to the International Monetary Fund, or 30 percent smaller in nominal terms at the present exchange rate). Its population is more than four times [that of the U.S.]. China’s investment in frontier technologies exceeds America’s by a wide margin. It also graduates four times as many STEM [science, technology, engineering, and mathematics] Bachelor’s degrees and twice as many doctorates—and the skills gap is widening. One-third of [China’s] new labor market entrants have bachelor’s degrees, and one-third of those are in engineering.

Today, the two economies are of roughly equal size, but China is growing twice as fast. President Trump has said repeatedly that our economy is doing well while China’s economy is doing badly. He is misinformed. The perception that China is weak is widespread in Washington, and evidently contributed to the recent breakdown in trade negotiations. That is a strategic miscalculation that may have baleful consequences. China fears nothing but America’s technological edge, and that edge is eroding at an alarming pace.

National Principles and Imperial Designs

Dr. Skinner is broadly correct: We have never engaged a strategic rival with resources and skills on this scale. Today’s situation is radically different in another respect. In America and China we observe the confrontation of the national and the imperial principle in their purest form. America is history’s most successful nation-state. Its premise is the sanctity of the individual, the heritage of the English Protestants who in the 17th century envisioned a biblical republic. When I last had the privilege of addressing you three years ago, I spoke about our unifying political culture and its ever-present theme of the individual’s pilgrimage toward redemption. Our sense of the sacred in every citizen has proven a stronger and more enduring bond than the ethnocentric nationalisms of the Old World.

China is the oldest and—despite intermittent breakdowns—the most successful empire in history, subjecting the interest of the individual to the imperatives of the state. Unlike America, China never assimilated the scores of ethnicities who comprise its enormous population. Instead, it orders them into an imperial system ruled by a centralized elite and communicates by a system of imperial ideograms rather than a common tongue. It maintains a ruthless meritocracy that filters talent by standardized examinations. It has always viewed its people as raw material for imperial power and, within living memory, has sacrificed frightful numbers of them. The imperial order is perpetually at risk of fracture, and the succession of dynasties is interrupted by episodes of internecine war and unimaginable suffering. But the imperial system perpetually restores itself because the Chinese have had no alternative to warlords and anarchy.
Who is this "we", (((David)))? What Goldberg, aka Spengler, omits from his analysis is the fact that the West is no longer the West, but rather, a failed and parasitized successor to what used to be the West. There is no us, there is no Judeo-Christian "sense of the sacred in every citizen" in the current Post-West. What Goldberg falsely claims is "a stronger and more enduring bond" than the nationalisms of the genuine West is not only intrinsically weak, it is leading directly to general collapse and a war of many tribes that will greatly serve China's long terms strategic interests.

Goldberg's analysis is obvious trash, resting as it does on such observably false assertions. But it is very useful to know it, because it informs us of what the current post-Western elite wants to believe and what the basis of their future actions will be.

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73 Comments:

Blogger D. October 18, 2019 7:58 AM  

>President Trump has said repeatedly that our economy is doing well while China’s economy is doing badly. He is misinformed.<

World Stocks Drop, Futures Tread Water After China Reports Worst GDP Growth In 30 Years
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/world-stocks-drop-futures-tread-water-after-china-reports-worst-gdp-growth-30-years

Blogger Republican Mother October 18, 2019 8:08 AM  

The Chinese cheat like hell on tests, but this guy is making it sound like their STEM degrees are anywhere equal to an American one. In Chinese culture, it's almost like cheating is part of the test. Look up Chinese cheating rings to find out how they try to keep up in American schools.

Blogger dienw October 18, 2019 8:09 AM  

“In China, we have an economic competitor, we have an ideological competitor, one that really does seek a kind of global reach that many of us didn’t expect a couple of decades ago..."

There is Goldberg's first lie. The anti-Communist right understood and expected China to be a global threat sixty-plus years ago.

Blogger Wario's Mart October 18, 2019 8:13 AM  

Yes, America is so superior for it's sacred nogs and wets and gays

Blogger JACIII October 18, 2019 8:20 AM  

dienw wrote: “In China, we have an economic competitor, we have an ideological competitor, one that really does seek a kind of global reach that many of us didn’t expect a couple of decades ago..."

There is Goldberg's first lie. The anti-Communist right understood and expected China to be a global threat sixty-plus years ago.


Read "us" the way he meant it. He refers to his tribe whether he means to or not.

Blogger ZhukovG October 18, 2019 8:21 AM  

Some say China is going to rule the world. Others, such as our very own Nate, say that China is in serious trouble.

I tend to lean toward the second opinion since throughout much of China's history it seems to have existed in a state of serious trouble.

Ultimately I see the world transitioning back to a system similar to what existed in the late Victorian Era. A world dominated by a number of, largely European, Great Powers. This will likely be a rather violent transition in some areas, notably Asia and North America.

If there is a big winner at all, I think it will be Russia. They seem to have mastered the art of Maximum Influence for Minimum Cost.

Blogger Wario's Mart October 18, 2019 8:21 AM  

Surely if there is a skills gap with China, we must close it by importing sacred nog engineers. Surely more mud people and less white men will assist the maintenance of our technology gap. Our sacred nogs latins and gays are what enable our incredible 'political unity'. We must allow more of these Chinese into the magic dirt to allow them to complete their journeys for individual redemption.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 18, 2019 8:28 AM  

Those WASPs and I am certainly one of them are second class citizens even the monied and/or elite have to walk a line so narrow as to be figureheads. So about them English Protestants they better not upset any of the protected classes especially the uber protected class Goldman belongs.

Here is a question to David, as a WASP what are you and your elite accomplices going to do for me and my family? That of course is a trick question.

Blogger BastionHarm October 18, 2019 8:28 AM  

Your analysis of (((Goldberg's))) essay is why I visit your blog 3x a day. Spot on.

Blogger Dwayne Thundergrit October 18, 2019 8:29 AM  

And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of
the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear: "A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the
East."


Kipling

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother October 18, 2019 8:29 AM  

The Shire must admit more orcs or it can't survive!!!11

Blogger Stilicho October 18, 2019 8:36 AM  

The Spenglerian solution?

1. More paper Americans to chase population parity with china

2. More stem grads, presumably drawn from #1

3. More financialization to increase the numbers econometricians track... winning!

4. Making accommodations to find a place within or on the edges of the Chinese empire

Bullshit. Pure and simple.

Stem: we need more quality not quantity. No more foreign Stem students in our universities and subsequently in or job markets. But to encourage smart Americans in these fields, we have to pay those qualified what they are worth.

Thus, we have to stop rewarding the financialization of everything as it encourages financial strip mining rather than creative and productive efforts.

Stop the easy, consequence free theft of technology.

Stop the lopsided trade with China and the export of American productive capacity to China (and others). Treat such traitors as they deserve.

Pick your own damned cotton.

None of it may do enough to save us without a collapse of the financialization that is at the heart of our current economic system because of the perverse incentives it creates and sustains.

Blogger dienw October 18, 2019 8:36 AM  

@5 JACIII
I know it was his people. I almost wrote: The anti-Communist right understood and expected China to be a global threat sixty-plus years ago before the (((Neocons))) took over the Conservative movement.

Blogger Robert Browning October 18, 2019 8:38 AM  

There is a seer who sees China invading Alaska and northern Canada after America has been weakened badly by war.

Blogger dienw October 18, 2019 8:47 AM  

@12 Stilicho
Excellent analysis.
Pick your own damned cotton is the catchphrase that echos down the centuries: during the start of the importation of black slaves, there were those who argued that only whites should be used; for then the credit for social and economic development would be solely be the White race's. The nativists were correct then just as now.

Blogger Ken Prescott October 18, 2019 8:48 AM  

Think of the Battlestar Galactica reboot when it comes to China.

All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.

China goes in cycles. They start poor, the coastal regions get rich, the hinterlands stay poor, centrifugal and centripetal forces align to tear the country apart, foreigners get rich in the coastal regions, and then a particularly successful warlord unifies China and equalizes the poverty to keep the country United, and everyone is poor.

And then the coastal regions get rich...

Blogger dienw October 18, 2019 8:59 AM  

@14
Yes, I have read and seen videos of the prophecy. The prophet was active in the '70s; I just can't remember his name. Here is a more recent prophecy. There are several more such prophecies; so, we cannot say we weren't warned.

the Russians invade the East coast landing on a Delaware beach.

The Chinese will efficiently cleanse the western states of their populations.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah October 18, 2019 9:01 AM  

It has always viewed its people as raw material for imperial power and, within living memory, has sacrificed frightful numbers of them. The imperial order is perpetually at risk of fracture, and the succession of dynasties is interrupted by episodes of internecine war and unimaginable suffering.

Nice bit of projection (((David)))

Blogger Dr Caveman October 18, 2019 9:04 AM  

What's even worse is that Chinese and Indian STEM graduates make up a substantial number of the US tech/finance workforce

Blogger Dave Dave October 18, 2019 9:06 AM  

The Jews are recognising the Chinese dominance too late. Here in the satellite state of Australia, I can see their dominance clearly. They're (((officially))) 5% of the population, but that's not what you see on the streets. A third of the food stores are Asian. At universities, it's no less than 30%, perhaps 40% Asian. Some universities make almost half of their revenue from foreign students.
What the Jew gets wrong is that they want to bomb China into submission and to jew them into poverty. Doesn't work. China doesn't give a shit about the Jews and if Israel was in their way it would be obliterated within minutes. They also make the mistake of thinking their Jewish lies are preferable to Chinese control. I much prefer ching chongs to greasy grabblers.

Blogger Brett baker October 18, 2019 9:07 AM  

So, does David write under the name Godfree Roberts at Unz?

Blogger MagisterLudi October 18, 2019 9:10 AM  

Dave Dave: China doesn't give a shit about the Jews

"My Fellow Chinamen" shame tactics are not gonna work like in Europe and America

Blogger Seeingsights October 18, 2019 9:15 AM  

Not only the Chinese cheat on tests, they publish many bogus scientific papers. Here is an article about numerous scientific papers from China that are retracted. China takes first place in bogus science papers by a large margin:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/978037/china-publishes-more-science-research-with-fabricated-peer-review-than-everyone-else-put-together/amp/

Also, I've come across papers from Chinese academic published in non reputable online journals.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 18, 2019 9:15 AM  

All roads lead to the end of worldwide domination by anyone. "Global Superpower" talk is oh-so-20th-century. These (((clownbergs))) are both con-artists AND the fools who look backward while driving.

China's been around for--what?--5000 years? For most of that time life was as stagnant there as it was in pre-civilization Europe. If you think !Science! is now bastardized in the West, imagine the East Asian version.

The passing of Western World Hegemony doesn't mean someone else steps into the cockpit. It means the plane lands...either on its wheels or on its nose. I care much less about China, Inc. and more about what happens when the collective fantasy-nightmare of borrow-to-spend finally breaks down. The latter will affect me and mine quite directly.

Blogger Oswald October 18, 2019 9:18 AM  

They do have the numbers.

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 October 18, 2019 9:18 AM  

It is not just "China" vs "USA". It is China vs the world, and for a long time it was basically America and Europe VS the world. America was dominate but so was Christiabdom. And then Christiondom got some messed up notion of bringing in immigrants (really migrants) and ruining cultural cohesion. See for a while the Christian west worked and grew while maintaining cultural cohesion in our respective countries.

But this failed and instead of teaching the world about Christ and showing other Nations how to work together in Christian brotherhood.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 18, 2019 9:20 AM  

Let the Chinese and Jews fight, let the Chinese and our POC betters fight. If the usual Boomron conservatives were to actually ask who would give them a better deal, but no we now get to pretend that we don't have Race Tested citizenship and benefits. (And go die for the Kurds, because principles)

Blogger Miguel October 18, 2019 9:39 AM  

Notice the insertion of the word "Biblical" in there. The correct one is Christian, but (((David))) cant have that.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei October 18, 2019 9:39 AM  

It maintains a ruthless meritocracy that filters talent by standardized examinations.

That's an interesting "condemnation" to voice. Wouldn't the ultrasuperdupermaximega-smart Jews be all for talent-filtering meritocracies, the more ruthless the better?

Blogger Salt October 18, 2019 10:01 AM  

China is the oldest and—despite intermittent breakdowns—the most successful empire in history, subjecting the interest of the individual to the imperatives of the state.

But the imperial system perpetually restores itself because the Chinese have had no alternative to warlords and anarchy.


If true, Hong Kong shall have to be crushed.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos October 18, 2019 10:11 AM  

Vox, this isn’t just a just false premise. This is pure satanic, lying inversion. The USA is the empire, with many different nations under one global military system. China is the nation-state, with 92% of its population being the same nation. Upside down.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 18, 2019 10:18 AM  

Robert Browning wrote:There is a seer who sees China invading Alaska and northern Canada ...

It's a long, cold walk. They can't handle the logistics. Merely attempting it would weaken them to the point that their next generation would speak Russian instead of Mandarin.

Dave Dave wrote:I much prefer ching chongs to greasy grabblers.

Seconded.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 18, 2019 10:19 AM  

@14 re Alaska/Canada
Taking (or buying?) Siberia from Russia would make a helluva lot more sense in terms of the logistics of both exploiting and defending it, much less taking and securing it in the first place. OTOH Russia's will means more than that of a (((suicided))) USA.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 18, 2019 10:22 AM  

re: choice of overlords
1) If it has to come to that, pray that we get to choose.
2) At least as crooked in many ways as the Chinese are, they're more honest about it if that makes any sense.

Blogger xevious2030 October 18, 2019 10:23 AM  

“In America and China we observe the confrontation of the national and the imperial principle in their purest form. […] envisioned a biblical republic […] ethnocentric nationalisms of the Old World […]
our unifying political culture […] it orders them into an imperial system ruled by a centralized elite and communicates by a system of imperial”

A lie, a (((rejected))), We Were Americans Once, imperialism, (((projection))) against like kind. It reads like one big coherent tourette’s fit of anti-logos.

Blogger Borsabil October 18, 2019 10:26 AM  

@31 correct. Yon Jew issues an apology for the American Empire and projects heavily onto the Chinese nation. No doubt they had big plans to flood the Chinese mainland with African vibrants and to dominate Chinese politics and business. Unfortunately for them they badly underestimated the scale of the task. To the ching chong China man the Jew is just another white devil, just another barbarian.

What will be their next move? I think they mean to consolidate their grip on the American empire before demographics punt them into irrelevance. They're already agitating strongly for a coup against the GE, if they're successful they'll move towards hard totalitarianism. They have no new fat, complacent host to suck dry so they'll attempt to make the most of what's left of the west.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 18, 2019 10:33 AM  

Newscaper312 wrote:@14 re Alaska/Canada

Taking (or buying?) Siberia from Russia would make a helluva lot more sense in terms of the logistics of both exploiting and defending it, much less taking and securing it in the first place. OTOH Russia's will means more than that of a (((suicided))) USA.


Either place, they would have to beat General Winter, every year, forever.

Blogger VFM Bear October 18, 2019 10:38 AM  

"At least as crooked in many ways as the Chinese are, they're more honest about it if that makes any sense."

Amoral vs. immoral. Why am I suddenly thinking of a two-party political system?

The lesser of two evils, same as it always was.

Blogger urthshu October 18, 2019 10:54 AM  

We give them participation trophies

https://mymodernmet.com/kehinde-wiley-rumors-of-war/

Blogger Sam October 18, 2019 11:02 AM  

@24
The Chinese Empire dates to the Qin; 221 BC. They have previous dynasties but it is like the difference between the Roman Empire and the Romans fighting Veii.

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As usually what Goldburg wrote is word salad.

"China is the oldest and—despite intermittent breakdowns—the most successful empire in history, subjecting the interest of the individual to the imperatives of the state. Unlike America, China never assimilated the scores of ethnicities who comprise its enormous population. Instead, it orders them into an imperial system ruled by a centralized elite and communicates by a system of imperial ideograms rather than a common tongue."

The Han are originally from Henan/Shaanxi/Shanxi; the rest of China they absorbed the locals. China unlike the US has managed to absorb multiple different ethnicities; the key to their success is having lots of Han so the dilution is not extreme and being relatively related so the gap isn't insurmountable.

Chinese elite has historically not been centralized; this why they have fractured into regional warlords. What they have is an elite chosen by examination and large civil service, but the size of the country means there is autonomy for elites outside the capital and preventing them from building their own power base was a constant historical problem (on par with 'how do we keep the nomads out).

Blogger OneWingedShark October 18, 2019 11:04 AM  

Republican Mother wrote:The Chinese cheat like hell on tests, but this guy is making it sound like their STEM degrees are anywhere equal to an American one. In Chinese culture, it's almost like cheating is part of the test. Look up Chinese cheating rings to find out how they try to keep up in American schools.
Yep, Indians too.
The thing that's so disgusting about the so-called "STEM-shortage" is that it's a full-on lie: if it wasn't, then things like the behavior noted in this reddit post would be the exception rather than the norm. — The 'STEM shortage' is all about displacing the actual STEM people with ever more H1Bs.

Stilicho wrote:The Spenglerian solution?

1. More paper Americans to chase population parity with china
2. More stem grads, presumably drawn from #1
3. More financialization to increase the numbers econometricians track... winning!
4. Making accommodations to find a place within or on the edges of the Chinese empire

Bullshit. Pure and simple.

Stem: we need more quality not quantity. No more foreign Stem students in our universities and subsequently in or job markets. But to encourage smart Americans in these fields, we have to pay those qualified what they are worth.

Exactly so.
But the thing you have to realize is that these so-called "American" companies, aren't. They're multi-national entities who have literally no allegiance to the US. They simply do not care about disemploying US citizens in favor of foreigners, in fact it is because the foreigners are cheaper that they prefer them… and that's not even counting the diversity BS, which literally incentivizes such behavior.

Would that Trump would EO actual RICO investigations into Big Tech.

Dr Caveman wrote:What's even worse is that Chinese and Indian STEM graduates make up a substantial number of the US tech/finance workforce
That's a feature, not a bug, to the globalists.
After all, if they infest the "too big to fail" industries with foreigners, there's real incentive to not embrace nationalism — unfortunately for them, I think there's more and more people who would be willing to sacrifice "too big to fail" companies for actual rule-of-law, forcing them to be subject to the nation-state.

Blogger Scuzzaman October 18, 2019 11:08 AM  

The anti-Communist right understood and expected China to be a global threat sixty-plus years ago.

“We” fed and armed them (and in the case of China, have given them 500 billion a year in trade advantage) for decades, FOR THE PURPOSE of making them a credible existential threat.

The anti-communist right has never been more than the Republicans useful idiots, the mirror image of the Democrat hippy contingent.

Blogger Crush Limbraw October 18, 2019 11:10 AM  

Per John Derbyshire:
"Eighty percent of U.S. doctoral candidates in computer science and electrical engineering are foreign students, of whom Chinese are the largest contingent. Most return to China. The result is that the best U.S. universities have trained an excellent faculty for Chinese universities......

………. foreign applications to study STEM subjects at American universities fell off in 2017, partly because Chinese students can now get their education in China, from professors we educated ten or twenty years ago.

Not to worry though. We should be OK. Look: we have way more Gender Studies graduates than they do, and way more lawyers!"

http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/china-on-the-mind-is-a-sputnik-moment-coming-could-the-u-s-respond-if-it-did/





……

Blogger Out of Nod October 18, 2019 11:23 AM  

Oh if it were that simple. Academia is pozzed at the moment - they think it's more important to give money to "Deans of Diversity" then give money to departments that provide useful skills.

Blogger Out of Nod October 18, 2019 11:50 AM  

Would that Trump would EO actual RICO investigations into Big Tech.

Why stop at Big Tech? The Starbucks that uses bug tech is just as bad, if not worst.

How does a constitutional republic stop a global enterprise? The quick and dirty is nationalizing the corporation while preventing them from seeking business in the world narket...the other is to starve them of necessary resources and put checks in place that make it ubdesirable for these money grabblers to do business elsewhere.

Blogger OneWingedShark October 18, 2019 11:58 AM  

Out of Nod wrote:Would that Trump would EO actual RICO investigations into Big Tech.

Why stop at Big Tech? The Starbucks that uses bug tech is just as bad, if not worst.

Well, it's not about just stopping at Big Tech, it's about starting the holding of the unaccountable to account, making the 'invincible' bleed, and showing that those that think they are above the law, aren't.

I fully expect that an honest investigation would show a lot of literal conspiracy, to include sedition and literal hanged-by-the-neck-until-dead Treason. — They're so arrogant and blatant because they're untouchable. Justly destroy that, and watch their works crumble.

How does a constitutional republic stop a global enterprise? The quick and dirty is nationalizing the corporation while preventing them from seeking business in the world market… the other is to starve them of necessary resources and put checks in place that make it undesirable for these money grabblers to do business elsewhere.
The simple way is to follow the Constitution.
There are a lot of things that are "normal" and "accepted practice" that go against the Constitution — one example is found in the common turn-of-phrase where lawyers claim to have "made law" — which directly contradicts the first sentence of the Constitution: Article 1, Section 1.

Blogger The Cooler October 18, 2019 12:21 PM  

There is no shortage of individuals, here, of presidential material. Stilicho, however, continuously presents himself as the Man for the Eventual Job. I'd vote for him; I'm not alone.

Put yourselves out there, fellas. Get what's coming to you.

Others, such as our very own Nate, say that China is in serious trouble.

He's not wrong. China is a house of cards. I would argue that this concern over China's actions, however, is inordinate: Once America is fundamentally concerned with America, quite literally everything falls into inevitable place.

Blogger Rusty Fife October 18, 2019 12:26 PM  

"The scarcest resource in the world is labor, specifically workers who can read an instruction manual, learn skilled or semi-skilled jobs, and show up for work on time."

TOPKEK and utterly incorrect. The scarcest resource in the world is a moral worker. This is what Singapore is trying to create. Maybe Xi as well.

Unfortunately, parasitism doesn't create a moral workforce.

Blogger OneWingedShark October 18, 2019 12:36 PM  

The Cooler wrote:There is no shortage of individuals, here, of presidential material. Stilicho, however, continuously presents himself as the Man for the Eventual Job. I'd vote for him; I'm not alone.

Put yourselves out there, fellas. Get what's coming to you.

Others, such as our very own Nate, say that China is in serious trouble.

He's not wrong. China is a house of cards. I would argue that this concern over China's actions, however, is inordinate: Once America is fundamentally concerned with America, quite literally everything falls into inevitable place.

Indeed so.
Just imagine the reaction to closing our borders (to include air- and sea-ports) — the international companies would shit bricks and, being reliant on Just-in-Time inventory, a surprising number of "too big to fail" companies (e.g. Wal-Mart) would die in a month. The multi-nation corporations (including banking) would show that their true loyalties are not with the US or its people, but rather that they see us as cattle to ranch.

If you were to combine such a closing of the borders with an anti-treason/-sedition Army campaign —i.e. besieging "sanctuary" cities, allowing citizens to go and gathering foreigners for deportation— you would see near-instantaneous collapse of huge swaths of corruption… yes, the courts would try to interfere, but there's a Supreme Law of the Land's definition of Treason in Article 3, Section 3 that can be used to solve thatproblem.

Blogger Gen. Kong October 18, 2019 12:37 PM  

Republican Mother wrote:

The Chinese cheat like hell on tests, but this guy is making it sound like their STEM degrees are anywhere equal to an American one. In Chinese culture, it's almost like cheating is part of the test. Look up Chinese cheating rings to find out how they try to keep up in American schools.

That's certainly true of tests run by the Cathedral of Wokeunduh (the utter farce of what passes for Academia in the former Christendom). Not so much for tests given in China proper - where the folks giving them are expecting all the usual tricks. Cheating on tests is a common marker of low-trust societies. What plagues the former Christendom is far more cancerous. Not only is there nothing to resist cheaters but there's an entire hierarchy of racial preferences which render tests, grades and degrees utterly meaningless - as demonstrated recently by yet another Kritarch ruling in favor of the (((owners))) of Hahvaaaahd.

Blogger Bernard Brandt October 18, 2019 12:38 PM  

Regardless of whether Spengler/Goldman is Jewish, has previously sought a Jewish rapprochement with the Chinese, or is now seeking a similar relationship with the West (whatever 'The West' may be now), I think it would be wise to look at the facts regarding the Chinese which he has presented, and more to the point, the trajectories as to where the PRC is likely headed.

Those facts include the following:

1. The development of coordinated economic ties between China and the rest of pan-Asia, Eurasia, Africa, South America, and the Pacific, including advanced train, road, and communication systems;

2. The process by which, in the last 40 or so years, the Chinese have built up from the economic disaster of 'The Great Leap Forward' and 'The Cultural Revolution' to a command economy nearly the equal of the U.S. now, and a population four times that of the U.S. Oh, add in the fact that they are just as smart as European whites, if not smarter. And yes, they may have stolen the technology, the information, and the education from the West. But, like the Japs and the Russkis before them, they stole it all fair and square.

3. That in addition to the Chinese tendency toward fake grades and scientific fraud, they have also made advances beyond 'The West' in quantum communications, in supercomputer technology, in A.I., and profound advances in semi-conductor technology. Translated into English, that means they are obtaining better computers and robots, developing an untappable worldwide communication system, and are on the verge of devising computers which can read ANY of our encrypted communications.

4. And all of the above is being developed for and in the service of a 4,000 year old command empire, with a totalitarian political philosophy, a settled ethnic hatred of non-Han (yep, that's right, us, and every other non-Han).

5. In the meantime, what we laughingly call 'the West' has sold off its technological base, outsourced to these same Chinese, and otherwise, educationally, economically, and techologically, sitting on its collective thumb.

What could possibly go wrong here?

Discuss.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl October 18, 2019 12:42 PM  

I was formulating how to respond similarly to Stilicho's post, but after scrolling down I realized it had already been done, much better than I could've. Often the case here, so I'm going to jump right to my female emotional narcissism-I loathe Spengler. Not dislike,but a bone deep loathing. The same emotion U feel whenever I read anything on National Review or happen across that muppet faced midget, Lil Benjy Chickenhawk.
My question is, how is it that more people aren't immediately repulsed by these people or is it that they've tamped down that response so long, that it no longer functions correctly?
This is something that I find myself thinking about, a lot & after many years I still don't know the answer.

Blogger Gen. Kong October 18, 2019 12:43 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:

The Shire must admit more orcs or it can't survive!!!11

Absolutely! The Gaslight Gazette even sez there's oil rotting in the shale!

Blogger HouellebecqGurl October 18, 2019 12:53 PM  

I employ some Chinese in China, more than a few of the ones I interact with seem very worried where their economy is going.
The thing I think most White Westerners don't get the most about Asians is the difference in their morality compass and ours. Their belief of what it means to be Chinese vs how we see ourselves as America.
They are all very well aware that the tiny desert nation is who really runs the West & they do have admiration for the Jewish ability to be such a small % of the population yet exert such massive force. They admire their ruthless money making and sketchy corner cutting to get there.
That said, the Chinese that I've gotten to know well enough over the years, don't like or trust them, at all. Which is kinda ironic because of how many corners the Chinese take and the massive amount of cheating they do.
I think of it as game recognizing game.

Blogger Gen. Kong October 18, 2019 1:14 PM  

NewTunesForOldLogos wrote:

Vox, this isn’t just a just false premise. This is pure satanic, lying inversion. The USA is the empire, with many different nations under one global military system. China is the nation-state, with 92% of its population being the same nation. Upside down.

Exactly. Saker's rather delicious term for the empire is "The Axis of Kindness". I'm more direct and use Rotten Banana Empire. So it's amoral (Chinese) versus the (((Satanic Inversion))) of the "Axis of Kindness". Don't make the error of thinking the Dragon is our friend though. The Chinese obviously see the Church of Wokeunduh and its fanatical followers as their allies of convenience in bringing about the collapse of Rotten Banana Empire the fastest. Caravans of invading military-age males ("children" according to the Gaslight Gazette) would serve as useful proxy cannon fodder for clearing the way for any prospective colonization of the west coast.

Blogger Doktor Jeep October 18, 2019 1:23 PM  

Remember when we think of USA versus China, one side puts a million dollar missile onto a ten dollar tent and calls it superiority. The other side lends that term to getting what they want without firing a shot.
They have Sun Tsu, We have scheming Jew.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon October 18, 2019 1:26 PM  

There's so much wrong with the claims being made in this excerpt that it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

"There is no us, there is no Judeo-Christian "sense of the sacred in every citizen" in the current Post-West. "

On that front, I am noticing the word 'Judeo-Christian' being used more often in online articles. I can't escape it. Robert Spencer at JihadWatch, etc etc. I suspect we will see this more and more as the (((rootless cosmopolitans))) try to convince joe sixpack that Jews and Christians should really stick together against the big bad Chinese. Knife them in the back for centuries, until a rival emerges.

"Dr. Skinner is broadly correct: We have never engaged a strategic rival with resources and skills on this scale. "

Well, maybe it wasn't a wise idea to let US STEM graduate programs become 50%+ Chinese, was it?



Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon October 18, 2019 1:31 PM  

@51

"That in addition to the Chinese tendency toward fake grades and scientific fraud, they have also made advances beyond 'The West' in quantum communications, in supercomputer technology, in A.I., and profound advances in semi-conductor technology. "

I happen to be very well versed in AI, and I do not see any evidence the Chinese are dominating. The leading AI researchers are still, as of this point, white and Jewish males. Perhaps there are legions of people huddling away in labs, not attending conferences and publishing papers, but I'd have to see evidence of this claim.

"Discuss."

What sort of person ends a post with an imperative? Cuckoo.

Blogger Bernard Brandt October 18, 2019 1:53 PM  

@58

As to A.I., This Scientific American article points out the current status of A.I. development in the PRC. What is most interesting is not the current point at which they are, but the trajectory they are taking, which involves a coordinated research effort which in turn involves billions of yuan per year.

And what sort of person ends a post by name calling? Insecure.

Cheers!

Blogger Bernard Brandt October 18, 2019 1:54 PM  

@58

And here's the article.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/will-china-overtake-the-u-s-in-artificial-intelligence-research

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother October 18, 2019 2:12 PM  

Oh no China the unstoppable force how will we ever survive

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction October 18, 2019 2:36 PM  

@60

“If America loses its openness edge, then the country risks pushing AI talents right back into the arms of its competitors, including China,” says AI analyst Joy Dantong Ma at the Paulson Institute, a think tank in Chicago, Illinois, aimed at fostering US–China relation

-insert pepe incredulous face-

Blogger scipioafricanus October 18, 2019 3:36 PM  

if jews were as smart as they claim to be, new technology would be flowing out of Israel like a river
if jews were as clever as they claim to be, they would have kept their con in America going for millenia, simply by keeping whites as the approximately 90% majority.

Blogger BarryCuda October 18, 2019 3:38 PM  

HouellebecqGurl wrote:I was formulating how to respond similarly to Stilicho's post, but after scrolling down I realized it had already been done, much better than I could've. Often the case here, so I'm going to jump right to my female emotional narcissism-I loathe Spengler. Not dislike,but a bone deep loathing. The same emotion U feel whenever I read anything on National Review or happen across that muppet faced midget, Lil Benjy Chickenhawk.

My question is, how is it that more people aren't immediately repulsed by these people or is it that they've tamped down that response so long, that it no longer functions correctly?

This is something that I find myself thinking about, a lot & after many years I still don't know the answer.



"Spengler" is intelligent. However, he is fundamentally an alien body within Christendom. He wants to be a benign parasite as opposed to his fellow tribesmen who are increasingly getting dumber than the goyim they have been farming. In that limited sense, he is to be commended.

Spengler and his ilk have woken up from their fever dream and are staring, mouth agape, at the horrific damage they have inflicted upon the one and only hope for security and prosperity. Also, he genuinely is in love with the culture of the West and is surely aghast at the thought of soulless chink automatons and Wankandans who are on the verge of ending beauty and grace forever.

I would happily give him five Reichmarks and buy him a First Class ticket to Tel Aviv.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 18, 2019 4:08 PM  

If anyone tells you he's an "AI analyst," check and make sure your wallet is still there. If China is throwing money at AI, it's a good thing, since it means less to spend on anything useful.

Blogger xevious2030 October 18, 2019 4:15 PM  

Building your own platforms is not solely a matter of technology, but of every facet, to include political. In a collapse, people look for high ground. If SSH is used truthfully, leading or aligning with leaders starts to build up the high ground. The beginning is recognizing that the (((authorized))) variety and machine will work to convince a people not to look amongst itself for remedy.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 18, 2019 6:25 PM  

"That's an interesting "condemnation" to voice. Wouldn't the ultrasuperdupermaximega-smart Jews be all for talent-filtering meritocracies, the more ruthless the better?"

Universal long term standardized testing necessarily results in one of two things. One the rules are strictly, efficiently, swiftly, and brutally enforced. Two, the people in power for many generations are already the successful cheaters, and they'll bury anyone else who tries to nose in.

Either way, outside cheats? Get ruthlessly crushed.

"The thing that's so disgusting about the so-called "STEM-shortage" is that it's a full-on lie: if it wasn't, then things like the behavior noted in this reddit post would be the exception rather than the norm. — The 'STEM shortage' is all about displacing the actual STEM people with ever more H1Bs."

H1Bs are the symptom. Refusing to pay a workman what he's worth is the disease.

The STEM "shortage" is a shortage of people willing to work for the unfair wages the people claiming there's a shortage want to pay.

"I would happily give him five Reichmarks and buy him a First Class ticket to Tel Aviv."

That covers a lot of (((them))). "Look, I know it's not your fault, and I wish you well, but you can't stay here. It just won't work. You have to go back."

Blogger Statix October 18, 2019 7:27 PM  

"The perception that China is weak is widespread in Washington, and evidently contributed to the recent breakdown in trade negotiations. That is a strategic miscalculation that may have baleful consequences."

Hilariously, Scott Adams observed/concluded today that, due to the current tariffs, China's economy will continue to suffer "forever," and the US economy will continue to improve "forever." Delusional?

Blogger justaguy October 18, 2019 7:47 PM  

If we are at the point where "who is ahead" depends on what statistics are chosen, then perhaps we are no longer the lone superpower. However, that isn't the question. The issue IMHO, is where is there conflict of interests and are they major? For the USSR and the 50 year cold war, there was major conflict-- they wanted to subvert us and turn us from our culture-- and it looks like they succeeded.

What does China want that we have? maybe some issues about presence in their backyard but how important are old military alliances against competing economies. Basically-- China wants acknowledgement and to be let alone to slowly work out their issues. For us-- are we too used to being the big guy to leave their backyard alone? Will South Korea, Japan, and Australia arm up with nukes?

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos October 18, 2019 11:50 PM  

Delusional. The enemy gets a vote.

Blogger Brainspirit October 20, 2019 4:42 AM  

Judeo-Christian,thats an oxymoron.

Blogger The Last Roman October 20, 2019 6:35 AM  

In reference to the posts concerning a future conflict between the Chinese and the Jews. The authors seem to forget that the Jews won't get their hands dirty. Instead, they will use us to do their fighting for them just like they did in Iraq. Our corrupt political class will go along with it, and sacrifice the future of the West, for their own monetary gain.

Blogger Iron Spartan October 20, 2019 8:21 PM  

(((They))) thought they could do to China what they did to the USA and Europe. ((They))) suddenly seem to have come to the panicked conclusion that they can't, that (((they))) have destroyed their best means of protection against the Chinese, but can't change course because admitting (((they))) made a mistake is forbidden

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