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Tuesday, November 19, 2019

Mailvox: Converging the Mustang

American automotive buffs are not happy with Ford permitting its new electric vehicle to wear the Mustang brand as a skinsuit:
Recently Ford revealed a new all-electric 4-door crossover SUV. Then labeled it a Mustang Mach E. There is a 50min video of the reveal on YouTube. In the comment section people are seeing the complete inversion of an iconic car brand and they're not happy about it.

Based on the diversity hires shown from the design team, I'm not surprised they have no understanding of the Mustang brand.

I look forward to reading Corporate Cancer soon.
Although I'm not an American muscle car guy, I can sympathize. I wasn't happy when Ford acquired and trashed the Jaguar brand either. But seriously, diversity or not, how hard is it to grasp that a Mustang is a sports car, not A 4-DOOR UTILITY VEHICLE?

Speaking of Corporate Cancer, the paperback is now available at Amazon and at a discount at Castalia Direct.

It may interest readers to know some of my predictions in the book are already coming to pass, such as the continued targeting of the Internet giants by national tax authorities.
The Czech government approved a seven percent digital tax proposal on Monday aimed at boosting state coffers by taxing advertising by global internet giants like Google and Facebook, the finance ministry said. The tax would apply to companies with global revenue over €750 million ($826.5 million) annually, 100 million crown ($4.32 million) turnover in the Czech market and a reach exceeding 200,000 user accounts.

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78 Comments:

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei November 19, 2019 8:04 AM  

Mustang Mocky?

Blogger jarheadljh November 19, 2019 8:16 AM  

VD you totally missed chance to use the Corely Minivan from 'Full Throttle' as a comparison reference.

Blogger Scott November 19, 2019 8:29 AM  

Mustang mockery.

Mustang Mach R-E

Mustang Mach REeeeeeeee

Blogger JACIII November 19, 2019 8:29 AM  

You can piss right off. I remember those old Jags; try to turn the headlights on and the windshield wipers would start up.
I own an XJ8 from the "Ford" years. You want a Jag that doesn't leave you on the side of the road with some bizarre electrical gremlin or blown head gaskets? These are where you start looking. American derived V8, English leather and wood, all aluminum body/chassis (Jag limo weighs the same as other's sport coupes), great handling and ride. The English need adults to look over their shoulders when anything electrical is in play.
American car company management will always seek to turn anything distinctive and eye-catching into milquetoast and drive toward making their entire range uniformly ugly and unappealing. "I know! Let's make everything a Camry!"

Blogger Jack Morrow November 19, 2019 8:31 AM  

It's not the first time this has happened to the Mustang; it was turned from a popular compact into a muscle car circa 1969. I think Robert McNamara was in charge at Ford when the Thunderbird was changed from a sports car into a pseudo-luxury car

Blogger David The Good November 19, 2019 8:37 AM  

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Blogger Johnny November 19, 2019 8:40 AM  

Don't know about Jaguar in particular, but in the post World War II era the Brits produced a fine line of cars that were sometimes primitive in their details. I think the problem was the socialist mentality. They wouldn't let people make a lot of money with corporate investment, and so they didn't invest, and a lot of the engineering was holdover from an earlier era. Nice stuff but sometimes troublesome or primitive in design.

When Ford bought the Jaguar car, they retained the expensive car name, Jaguar, but produced a medium quality car. Overpriced for what it was. Sales held up in the US better than in Europe. Apparently us Americans are less discriminating. Effectively Ford sold off the name with a lower quality car. I would imagine they made a bunch of money doing it.

Blogger Johnny November 19, 2019 8:54 AM  

If I could get all nostalgic here, the Mustang came out when I was in high school and I thought it was the coolest looking car. Upon reflection, like a lot of cars, it was nothing but sculptured sheet metal. Not a bad car, mind you, but often a low to medium car running gear on a stylish body.

As for now, shouldn't a car's name reflect the kind of car it is? Monte Carlo should be a luxury car, a Jag sleek subtle and fast, a Mustang sporty, and so on. Well, if you are trying to sell sheet metal on wheels to the general public, I guess not.

Traditionally the big American auto makers made the fancy cars to get the customers into the show room. For many long years General Motors sold the Corvette at a loss. The thing is, the buyer would come in to look at the Corvette, and get sold a station wagon. There is some of that with the Mustang, or was.

Blogger Nate November 19, 2019 8:54 AM  

" I wasn't happy when Ford acquired and trashed the Jaguar brand either."

hey... say what ya want... but the old jokes about unreliable jag electrical systems went away after Ford got ahold of them.

Blogger Attila is my bro November 19, 2019 8:55 AM  

I doubt I'll ever buy a Ford again. Between crap like this and getting rid of ALL their cars and replacing them with mushy, gay, ugly crossovers they're going to lose half their sales. One blip in gas prices and their entire strategy is going to crash because no one that actually liked their cars will go back - they'll already have moved on.

Electric cars are catching on and they definitely have their benefits (my neighbor's Tesla can do 0-60 in under 3 seconds), they're simply too expensive more a wide market. My neighbour's Tesla 3 with all the options was over $70k. I have another friend with a base package model S that cost him $93k. I laughed in his face when he told me that. Even Ford's crappy, tiny, ugly electric starts at $40k.

It's like that post the other day. First you saved for a car, then 2 year financing, then 3 and now 7. Soon you'll be paying for 2 or 3 cars and driving only one because you can't afford to repair the first 2 while simultaneously financing them but by golly they used to be really nice cars.

Blogger Andrew F November 19, 2019 9:05 AM  

Johnny,Ford sold Jag/Land Rover for $1.7 Billion after buying the pair for $5.2 Billion. I'm not sure what they made or more likely lost on them when they owned them but based on the sales price, it couldn't have been good.

Blogger Brick Hardslab November 19, 2019 9:09 AM  

Just when they could have taken advantage of the Shelby biopic. Bone stupid.

Blogger JACIII November 19, 2019 9:13 AM  

Andrew F wrote:Johnny,Ford sold Jag/Land Rover for $1.7 Billion after buying the pair for $5.2 Billion. I'm not sure what they made or more likely lost on them when they owned them but based on the sales price, it couldn't have been good.

Was this sale not during the 2008 collapse?

Blogger Calvin809 November 19, 2019 9:18 AM  

If a SUV wants to be a mustang who are you to judge. Stop being so car transphobic.

Blogger Nickels for Nancy November 19, 2019 9:24 AM  

yes, and now the Dodge WARLOCK

Blogger Harambe November 19, 2019 9:24 AM  

They could've just named it the Ford Taurus Mach E and nobody would have said anything.

Blogger sammibandit November 19, 2019 9:25 AM  

It looks like a Mazda, and who knows maybe finding parts for it will be challenging like finding parts for a Mazda. I also hate to think of what other tools techs would need to add to their kit just to work on this Ford. There's already 2 or 3 tools you need only to work on Fords.

The Chevy Volt, while a compact EV, is dead in the water. I've only seen one C-Max Hybrid and I work with cars every day. They're old lady commuter cars. I don't know how this will capture the market.

Land Rovers, mostly up to 10 years old, are very, very popular where I live. For a certain set they're good family cars that you can quickly switch into cars that you can take clients to meetings in. Nothing wrong with flash. But most of the really, really nice cars I see are Audis.

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 19, 2019 9:26 AM  

I never liked the Mustang as much as the Buicks of the time. Lots of high-end horsepower, not enough off-the-line torque. There's no doubt it's an iconic muscle car, though, so turning it into a 4-wheeled moped is sad.

The local electric cooperative puts out a monthly magazine. My dad was reading an article in the last one about the future of electric cars, and we had a good chuckle reading between the lines about all the downsides. Even a puff piece commissioned by the people who sell the electricity couldn't make a convincing sales pitch.

Blogger ThirdMonkey November 19, 2019 9:27 AM  

The Convergence will continue until everything is ugly.

Blogger Ken Prescott November 19, 2019 9:31 AM  

You could rebrand any of these names:

Maverick
Falcon
Fairlane
Fairmount

...because they're not in production any more, and they're not that well-remembered.

But not Mustang.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine November 19, 2019 9:36 AM  

"It may interest readers to know some of my predictions in the book are already coming to pass, such as the continued targeting of the Internet giants by national tax authorities."

"We care more about our state bodies than your international bodies. Evasion game over."

Blogger Keith November 19, 2019 9:40 AM  

>how hard is it to grasp that a Mustang is a sports car, not A 4-DOOR UTILITY VEHICLE?

But but muh Tesla?

Blogger Greg Hunt November 19, 2019 9:54 AM  

Disney has a racecar movie out right now, doing well in the theaters. Ford challenging Ferrari for motorsports domination during the 60's.

Car-guys love cars. Car-guys are independent, patriotic, and hard-working. Car-guys are innovative and crafty. Disney wants conformity and equality. Why did Disney make a movie celebrating Car-guys?

From the top down, my opinion is that they're not explicitly trying to destroy car-culture so much as they don't understand it. They can't work on cars themselves as they don't know how cars work. If they can force all car-work into the licensed mechanic's shop, they can make more money through the licensing. Whether or not that makes the car-guys happy is immaterial to them.

They don't love cars, car-guys, or car-culture any more than Disney does.

Blogger sammibandit November 19, 2019 10:04 AM  

I've had customers who own Teslas instructed to drive hundreds of miles to the nearest dealer for servicing. I know their supply chain is messed up but that's a lot of burden on a customer.

Blogger OneWingedShark November 19, 2019 10:06 AM  

Greg Hunt wrote:Car-guys love cars. Car-guys are independent, patriotic, and hard-working. Car-guys are innovative and crafty. Disney wants conformity and equality. Why did Disney make a movie celebrating Car-guys?
They're gloating at what they've killed. That* Ford doesn't exist anymore, and they're happy to rub your nose in that fact. Much like they're happy to rub your nose in the fact that the US isn't like it was in the 50s, always celebrating the victory of their tribe by rubbing your nose in the time and methods of their victory: the 60s, Beatles, and 'Tolerance'.

* It used to be that American companies were (a) run by Americans, and (b) had loyalty to the US — nowadays, the inversion is that the giant multinational companies are "America" and anything that hurts them "hurts America"… which is why you see things like Wells Fargo getting off with less than a slap on the wrist for it's massive coordinated identity-theft and fraud, or the Facebook/Amazon/Google Tech-sector getting away with what is obviously massive fraud to employ ever more H1Bs.

Blogger ar10308 November 19, 2019 10:07 AM  

The inherent problems with electric cars are manifold, but a more entertaining problem that has just arisen due to the California electricity issues is that owners can't charge their Teslas when the grid is down.

From a sporting perspective, they can be quite quick, however the weight prevents them from being truly fast. We have seen some developments of hybridization with current Formula 1, LeMans, and even the Hyper cars of some iconic brands, however they still rely on an ICE for main power. Most pure EVs are heavy and have difficulty with racing use of their power platforms. On a long track like the Nurbergring, a full charge Tesla's battery will be completely depleted before it can finish a complete lap if driven in anger.

Bastardizing the Mustang in this format is beyond stupid and has car guys scratching their heads, because it makes no sense since it contains none of the essential elements of a pony car.

Blogger Scuzzaman November 19, 2019 10:15 AM  

All the motoring manufacturers are playing a double game; ramping up horsepower in big-engined petrol vehicles while making big splash noises about their electric shitheaps. Some of them are even stupid enough to have swallowed the everything E future koolaid (Tesla, Volvo/Polaris) but most just want to be able to keep selling cars in rich stupid jurisdictions (EU, California). The EU has laws coming next year that specify a max level of emissions across the whole manufacturer’s sales, and the only possible way to meet these levels is to sell only Prius hybrids, or to sell a mix of electric vehicles and real cars ...

Blogger Desdichado November 19, 2019 10:17 AM  

Keep in mind that the "Disney" car movie is a movie that they inherited from Fox who made it and they got it as part of the merger.

Not that that's a big difference; the Cloud People hive mind infects the top of pretty much every major corporation today, but still. It's not really a Disney movie except by accident.

Blogger RC November 19, 2019 10:19 AM  

If Ford didn't pay to have the new Shelby film produced, they are the luckiest company around, two and a half hours of advertising. Shelby was pure Americana.

And then to turn it all on its head by branding an unrelated electric car a Mustang is idiotic on its face.

Blogger Steve Canyon November 19, 2019 10:20 AM  

Ford didn't come off particularly sympathetic in that movie. They came across as looking like they wanted to screw over Ken Miles.

Blogger RC November 19, 2019 10:38 AM  

Damelon wrote, "I never liked the Mustang as much as the Buicks of the time. Lots of high-end horsepower, not enough off-the-line torque. There's no doubt it's an iconic muscle car, though, so turning it into a 4-wheeled moped is sad."

Whatever brought the Mustang to fruition, the execution was brilliant. It was originally a re-bodied Falcon, as milquetoast as it gets. Over its first six years of production Ford created options that allowed the cute little secretary to drive a six cylinder Mustang that suited her perfectly and fit her budget while, at the same time, with the help of Shelby, Ford created a panoply of engine/handling options that could intrigue a very broad market, right to the die-hard enthusiasts.

Secretary - six cylinder, lightly optioned.
Young family - 289 V-8, 351, or 390.
Weekend racer - 302 BOSS or early Shelby cars
Streetable high torque stoplight drag racer - 428
High horsepower, high speed sleds - 427 or 429.

The modern high-performance Mustangs put the old muscle cars to shame.

Ford has been, with a few notable bumps, riding this pony for over 50 years and now they name an electric SUV a Mustang. I expect a mid-course correction if sanity prevails.

The notable lack of unconverged corporations of all types is revealing. I hope future advanced civilizations will learn these deep lessons early. We must document them well.

Blogger ar10308 November 19, 2019 10:41 AM  

Ford Vs Ferrari was a great movie. It captures all the essential elements of the story and does a great job doing it. It also wasn't remotely converged.

It did a great job highlighting the problems with the Ford/Detroit culture, as well as the relationships between the characters. I'd recommend it even to people who don't care too much for cars or racing.

Blogger nswhorse November 19, 2019 10:43 AM  

Ken Prescott wrote:You could rebrand any of these names:

Maverick

Falcon

Fairlane

Fairmount

...because they're not in production any more, and they're not that well-remembered.

But not Mustang.


If you resurrected the Falcon and Fairlane badges on some shitty electric SUV, you piss off the Australians and Kiwis who have long revered those badges (until production stopped with the total death of our local car industry a few years ago). Though you'd probably get away with it as there aren't enough of us to matter in a globohomo market.

Blogger The Cooler November 19, 2019 10:47 AM  

Still not as big a blunder as the 1974-1978 Mustang II.

Blogger Newscaper312 November 19, 2019 10:48 AM  

Funny, but I've noticed over last 2-3 years a bunch of the Mom-friendly 2WD pseudo SUVs like Durango, Pilot, etc, are looking more and more mini-van like -- just no sliding door.

Blogger Hammerli 280 November 19, 2019 10:56 AM  

Jaguar is typical of the British car industry. Brilliant top-level design, mediocre detail design, and spotty workmanship. Except for electrical systems...Lucas IS the prince of darkness.

This is why Mazda bought three Lotus Elans, shipped them to Japan, figured out what made a British sports car work...and designed the Miata. Which is a masterpiece. Agile, responsive, and as reliable as a brick. You won't do better until you're buying a Porsche.

As for Ford...they've lost the bubble. Battery cars are a bad bargain to begin with. Hybrids are another story, especially since you can pick the engine strictly for charging the battery. And you do NOT take an SUV and label it as a muscle car.

Blogger Steve Canyon November 19, 2019 10:59 AM  

Mavericks had a pretty good rep on the dragstrip in the early 70's. Along with Colts and Vegas, they were pretty milquetoast on the road but in the hands of Ronnie Sox, Dyno Don Nicholson, and Grumpy Jenkins, they were pretty formidable.

Both the Falcon and the fairmont were built on the same platform as their respective years Mustangs. If they're not remembered, its only in nameplate. Bob Glidden ran Fairmonts in NHRA as well.

And Fairlanes? Not as well known as Galaxies and Torinos, but pretty solid muscle cars fondly remembered by old Ford hands. Got a buddy with a 428CJ one he's restoring.

Buicks of that era had nailheads. Gobs of torque but flopped on the top end cause of their tiny valves. TV Tommy liked them well enough. Good street cruiser though. More partial to Mopars and Pontiacs of that vintage.

Ford probably thought they could follow the same pattern Porsche did with their Panamera and Cayennes. Worked for them though. Even though the low end Cayennes are not much Porsche and more VW/Audi.

Blogger Raker_T November 19, 2019 11:03 AM  

Does anybody remember the new Coca Cola flap? Think this will be round 2? Or maybe this is Ford's version of "not your father's Oldsmobile". TV ads featuring purple hairs in 3, 2, 1...

Blogger Johnny Reb November 19, 2019 11:07 AM  

Mustang Mach E: For the soy boys who want a Mustang, but don't want to give up the ugly as hell Prius look.

Blogger Johnny Reb November 19, 2019 11:10 AM  

Makes me afraid of what Ford is going to do to the F-150 when they start making an electric version of it.

Blogger Rick November 19, 2019 11:12 AM  

Howeveeeer, the new mid engine Corvette is amazing. Leno’s garage made a great video about it yesterday — the convertible version. It’s half the price (starts at $60k) of the nearest comparable supercar. There isn’t a single part shared on any other vehicle.
Can’t wait to see it (hopefully) at Le Mans.

Blogger Rick November 19, 2019 11:15 AM  

Also, Porsche made/makes an SUV.
But they’re Porsche.

Blogger Rick November 19, 2019 11:18 AM  

The Leno video:

https://youtu.be/nvTzcNtaSLU

Blogger John Bradley November 19, 2019 11:34 AM  

Howeveeeer, the new mid engine Corvette is amazing.

Numbers-wise, sure. Pity about the styling though. Every time I see a C7 it reminds me how clean the lines on the C4, C5, and C6 were. It already looks dated, and the C8 makes it seem restrained, design-wise, by comparison.

Though it has plenty of competition on the uglyometer in the supercar realm. Can't say anything nice about a Ferrari designed after the 355, and modern Lambos -- while stylistically toned-down from the Diablo -- aren't exactly tasteful either.

Also, Porsche made/makes an SUV.

Two of them, IIRC. But they had the good sense not to call either of them the 911.

Blogger God Emperor Memes November 19, 2019 11:38 AM  

Lee Iacocca's autobiography has a ton of fascinating information on Ford during those years.

Blogger ar10308 November 19, 2019 11:42 AM  

@Rick, I watched that entire video yesterday. The new Vette is going to be fantastic and at the price point of $60k will smash anything at that price point. Obviously, the higher performance versions will be forthcoming, but the 60k model will be more than enough for almost anyone. The fact they're making it in Right-Hand Drive is great for the international market as well.

Blogger Rick November 19, 2019 11:44 AM  

John — the new vette looks are growing on me.
I wish it sounded like the Le Mans vettes. Will miss that.
I like the head engineer’s answer to: why the mid engine now? One word: physics.

Blogger Johnny November 19, 2019 11:49 AM  

Howeveeeer, the new mid engine Corvette is amazing.

I test drove one of the older Corvettes, a small engine version with an auto tyranny. The owner had it all up on blocks because he didn't want the springs to sag, had it in a shed, and kept a tarp over it so it was extra clean. Precious not. The thing rode like a lumber wagon, and in acceleration, my old Ford Galaxy 500 family sedan would have been able to blow the Vette in the weeds without hardly trying. Owing to big expectations it was the most disappointing test drive I have ever done, and I have done a lot of them.

Now the new Corvette produced in the last decade or so is something else. All around impressive.

Blogger Ken Prescott November 19, 2019 12:27 PM  

They did want to screw over Ken Miles.

Blogger Doktor Jeep November 19, 2019 12:56 PM  

About the Corvette: they wanted to make it mid engine back in the 80s to run with the Italian cars, but the boomers had a tantrum."Muh front engine rear drive!".
That the Vette is mid engine now is a good sign the boomers are on their way out.
As for this coal powered car sullying the Mustang brand, I won't even entertain it with derision. But if Ford would bring back the Ranchero and use a Mustang nose on it, that would be a huge hit.

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 19, 2019 2:02 PM  

Somehow this move doesn't surprise me. Then again, the fact that Ford announced a couple of years ago they were drawing down their sedan/coupe lines and focusing everything on the SUV market tells me everything I need to know.

Nobody wants an overpowered SUV except those that actually use the things by pushing their limits. I can appreciate a hybrid version of an SUV in the swamp area that is DC, because traffic just sucks all around and I want to be able to stretch out my gas consumption during a normal work week, but throwing the two together makes absolutely no sense to me.

Can't wait for Jeremy Clarkson (who's a Ford Mustang/GT40 enthusiast) to rip them over the coals on this one.

Blogger DonReynolds November 19, 2019 2:22 PM  

One aspect often overlooked about the American anti-trust laws is how it affected the behavior of the major players. The Mustang will always be the "anti-trust" vehicle to me.

Back in the late 1950s, Ford was having a difficult time with design issues and quality problems. GM was doing great, in fact, the Anti-Trust Division of the Justice Department was looking for an opening to break up GM. That simple fact made GM the guardian of the other major car makers.

The Mustang saved Ford in a major way. GM designed the Mustang and handed it over to Ford and said..."built this and make a ton of money". Ford did and it recovered from the Edsel debacle and went on to be a solid automaker.

Anti-trust made GM the guardian of the whole auto industry. They were forced to help the smaller auto makers to keep from triggering an anti-trust challenge from the Justice Department.

Yes, of course, Ford needs to stop scabbing brands that have been long established and leave the Mustang alone. I feel the same way about all other things familiar, even comic book characters. Nick Fury was my favorite comic when I was a boy, and his Howling Commandos. There was a black member of the team, who was a fighting bugler from New Orleans, and his name was Gabriel Jones....usually called Gabe. Convergence is always disappointing because it is theft.

Blogger elad sputnik November 19, 2019 2:36 PM  

via Hagerty:

"Every trim level is vegan...seriously"

"Color and materials designer Brittany Moss said the Mach-E team came up with an interior free of animal products to respect environmentally-conscious consumers."

They should have called it the Ford Soylatae.

Blogger NateM November 19, 2019 3:36 PM  


Can't wait for Jeremy Clarkson (who's a Ford Mustang/GT40 enthusiast) to rip them over the coals on this one.


He may be preoccupied helping Richard Hammond remember his ABCs

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 19, 2019 3:43 PM  

It doesn't look like Mustang.

No teenager is going to want a poster of a family grocery-getter on his bedroom wall.

Squandering a brand for the sake of Progressive politics is a surer sign of death by Corporate Cancer than any plague spot.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 19, 2019 3:57 PM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:Just when they could have taken advantage of the Shelby biopic. Bone stupid.

"They" were taking advantage of it.

It's just that "their" objectives don't make sense to you because they are clearly bad for Ford and the Mustang brand.

"They" want to warp American pop-culture. That's the goal and the Mustang is a big part our pop-culture.

The Mustang brand stands for big, noisy, punch Mother-Earth in the tits muscle cars, and "they" are desperate to subvert it.

Calling it an E-Taurus wouldn't accomplish any of "their" goals, because they wouldn't be warping American pop-culture with that brand.

Blogger Taylor? November 19, 2019 4:15 PM  

No kidding. The Mustang II is a hideous contraption.

Blogger Taylor? November 19, 2019 4:25 PM  

Soooo.... Vinyl seats? Seriously what other animal products go into an automotive interior? So virtuous of them to use synthetics in place of more expensive leather.
Reminds me of items in the grocery store that never had gluten in them being labeled as gluten free just to appeal to soy boys and purple hairs.

Blogger Lance E November 19, 2019 4:27 PM  

Taxing advertising makes perfect sense to me. If the companies can create money out of thin air, they might as well donate some of it.

Blogger Noah B. November 19, 2019 4:41 PM  

Having owned a Mustang, I never saw what the hype was about. Just a cheap car that isn't especially fast, powerful, or stable. Maybe those features are optional.

Blogger God Emperor Memes November 19, 2019 5:05 PM  

"GM designed the Mustang and handed it over to Ford"
Are you sure about that?

Blogger Gregory the Great November 19, 2019 5:23 PM  

Form follows function, therefore all cars will look like batteries on wheels from now on.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim November 19, 2019 5:48 PM  

When they decided to put a gussied up V6 in the Raptor, I knew they didn’t give a damn about customer preference. And soon, China and India will own most automotive names anyway. Grab some history while you can.

Blogger Rick November 19, 2019 5:53 PM  

"GM designed the Mustang and handed it over to Ford"

Sounds like a Suburban legend.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim November 19, 2019 5:58 PM  

Say what you want about Camry but Toyota owns reliability. There’s a reason the desert rats wanted land rovers. And Lexus makes fine performance cars.

Blogger Raker_T November 19, 2019 6:34 PM  

"Toyota owns reliability" Borders on an understatement. I had a used 1978 Toyota truck given to me, probably 25 years ago. We drove it a lot, all 4 wheel bearings went out, which I replaced. People say those go out at 250-350K. The motor appeared to be original, because of the stickers and paint. People would ask how many miles were on it, I would always say "I don't know. I don't look at the odometer, I look at the dipstick." Maybe 400K? I told myself I would drive it until the motor gave out, it never did. Never smoked or knocked, save for a fairly consistent cold knock. Several years ago I got a "new" 1987 Toyota truck with only 84K on it, man that thing is smooth. I ended up selling the 1978 to a guy in Ohio for parts, it still ran well, the only thing I ever did to the motor was replace the timing chain a couple times.
Just before my mother passed away, she bought a new Toyota car. The way Toyota Co. handled that situation, was stellar, beyond decent customer service. With me, Toyota is platinum all the way.

Blogger Azimus November 19, 2019 6:58 PM  

Brand recognition has jumped the shark.

Ford Mustang Mach-ERY

Get it har har

Blogger Himself November 19, 2019 8:31 PM  

Like a Mustang II, only gayer. There, I said it.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell November 20, 2019 1:45 AM  

If Ford had faith that electric vehicles were a mature technology they would have made this their version of the Tesla Roadster. This is really incredible though, at least Mitsubishi waited until it was an inactive branding to reuse the Eclipse name for an uninspired crossover. A crossover that simply isn't turning any heads yet Ford took one look and decided to go above and beyond.

Blogger michimartini November 20, 2019 2:56 AM  

And even been much worse: They tried to turn it into a FWD abomination - at least that could be averted back then and was subsequently marketed as the Ford Probe.

Blogger map November 20, 2019 2:58 AM  

The Mustang is an incredible performance platform. It has the world's biggest aftermarket. Any component you want upgraded to enhance performance is available to the DIY'er.

This is an example of 1998 Ford Mustang Cobra with a fully modified suspension.

Never race one of these for pinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzpDOFOvdek

Blogger Steve Canyon November 20, 2019 9:30 AM  

Only in the movie. He drove in the '65 Le Mans in a GT-40. Makes for good plot drama, but any beef Leo Beebe had with Miles was overblown for the movie. Other books stated that Beebe didn't want Miles relegated to second in that finish he set up in '66. That was more due to the French and rules that didn't adequately address that situation. Most people who knew Beebe held him in high regard

Blogger Tars Tarkas November 20, 2019 10:48 AM  

It's the Mustang IIe All the shittyness of a Mustang II only with an extension cord.

I can't wait until they start trying to sell EV in the urban market where they make the most sense. Maybe 10% of the houses have a garage and there is no assigned parking. Won't this be fun.

Blogger spinoza November 20, 2019 12:02 PM  

Symphony No. 9
London Philharmonic Orchestra, London Philharmonic Choir, ...
O friends, not these sounds!
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!

But let us be more pleasant
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere

to tune and be more joyful.
anstimmen und freudenvollere.
Joy!
Freude!

Joy!
Freude!
Joy, beautiful spark of the gods,
Freude, schöner Götterfunken,

Daughter from Elysium,
Tochter aus Elysium,

We enter, drunk with fire,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,

Heavenly, your sanctuary!
Himmlische, dein Heiligthum!

Your spells bind again
Deine Zauber binden wieder

What the fashion strictly divided;
Was die Mode streng geteilt;

All people become brothers,
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,

Where your gentle wing rests.
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.
Who managed the big hit,
Wem der große Wurf gelungen,

To be a friend's friend;
Eines Freundes Freund zu sein;

Whoever has won a devoted wife,
Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,

Mix in his cheers!
Mische seinen Jubel ein!
Yes, who only one soul
Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele

His name is on earth!
Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!

And who could never, steal
Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle

Crying out of this covenant!
Weinend sich aus diesem Bund!
All beings drink joy
Freude trinken alle Wesen

At the breasts of nature;
An den Brüsten der Natur;

All the good, all the bad guys
Alle Guten, alle Bösen

Follow her rose trail.
Folgen ihrer Rosenspur.
Kisses she gave us and vines,
Küsse gab sie uns und Reben,

A friend, tested in death;
Einen Freund, geprüft im Tod;

Pleasure was given to the worm,
Wollust ward dem Wurm gegeben,

And the cherub stands before God.
Und der Cherub steht vor Gott.
Glad, how his suns fly
Froh, wie seine Sonnen fliegen

Through the sky splendid plan,
Durch des Himmels prächt'gen Plan,

Run, brothers, your train,
Laufet, Brüder, eure Bahn,

Joyful, like a hero to win.
Freudig, wie ein Held zum Siegen.
Be embraced, millions!
Seid umschlungen, Millionen!

This kiss for the whole world!
Diesen Kuß der ganzen Welt!

Brothers, above the star-tent
Brüder, überm Sternenzelt

Must a dear father live.
Muß ein lieber Vater wohnen.

You fall down, millions?
Ihr stürzt nieder, Millionen?

Do you suspect the creator, world?
Ahnest du den Schöpfer, Welt?

Find him over the star tent!
Such' ihn überm Sternenzelt!

He has to live above stars.
Über Sternen muß er wohnen.
Be embraced, millions!
Seid umschlungen, Millionen!

This kiss for the whole world!
Diesen Kuß der ganzen Welt!

Brothers, above the star-tent
Brüder, überm Sternenzelt

Must a dear father live.
Muß ein lieber Vater wohnen.

Be embraced,
Seid umschlungen,

This kiss for the whole world!
Diesen Kuß der ganzen Welt!

Joy, beautiful spark of the gods
Freude, schöner Götterfunken

Daughter from Elysium,
Tochter aus Elysium,

Joy, beautiful spark of the god, spark of the gods.
Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Götterfunken.

Blogger MrNiceguy November 20, 2019 12:55 PM  

You're not kidding about the electrical systems in English cars. In the MG forum I read, Lucas Electrics is generally known as "The Prince of Darkness," partly because they're evil, but mostly because you never know if your lights will work.

Blogger Avalanche November 20, 2019 8:36 PM  

@65 "Toyota owns reliability."

When I had to replace my old Lexus IS, I went looking for what would have been my fifth Accord; but MAN! They were *ugly* in 2012. And... on further research: Hyundai BEAT Toy and Honda in J.D. Power! The only questionable was resale; but Hyundai smoked
'em on everything else! Had my Sonata Sport for 4 years, till KIA (owns Hyundai -- AND beat them out in JD Power) came out with the KIA NIRO... baby sport ute; hybrid. Prettiest darned thing; I average 52 mpg; thing is actually nicer to drive that the Sonata Sport, and I can get 20 bags of mulch in it! Yeah yeah; solipsism. But MAN that NIRO is a honey!

Blogger Picturemaker November 20, 2019 9:49 PM  

Yes. Jaguar and Range Rover went to India (Tata Motors); Volvo was sold to the Chinese (Geely); and Aston Martin was sold to the Arabs.

Blogger Picturemaker November 20, 2019 9:51 PM  

Taurus would have been more appropriate.

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