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Wednesday, December 11, 2019

At long last

The question of whether Jews are a nation or a religion has been definitively and officially settled, at least for the people of the United States:
President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion, thus bolstering the Education Department's efforts to stamp out "Boycott Israel" movements on college campuses.
RamZPaul reaches the obvious conclusion:
I guess this means that the United States government’s position is that Jews are not Russians, Germans, Swedes or Americans, but they are a separate nation and a separate people.
Which, of course, has always been the case, despite the various self-serving attempts by immigrants to redefine Americans as some sort of walking, talking manifestations of an ideological Platonic ideation. And, of course, it tends to raise the question of where in the Constitution the executive branch is empowered to create an "Education Department", much less play economic and speech police for the institutions of higher education across the country.

Anyhow, it is nice to have this age-old debate resolved once and for all.

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80 Comments:

Blogger Crew December 11, 2019 9:49 AM  

I suspect that JD Unwin's observations on sexual immorality have relevance to why they have never really created a great culture of their own as well.

Blogger Ska_Boss December 11, 2019 9:49 AM  

The Jew is immunized against all dangers:
one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 11, 2019 10:07 AM  

Another thing for the Jews and alt-Retards to be equally furious about.

Blogger Johnny December 11, 2019 10:13 AM  

Call a Jew a Jew? Cognitive dissonance. When a view is held that is known subconsciously not to be true, the defense of the view will often be hostility. Moral discredit of the challenger of the view in the form of name calling, or possibly a fist fight from those who are given to that recourse. Or they ignore the challenger based on a presumption of superiority. They are so above you that your opinion doesn't matter.

Blogger Haus frau December 11, 2019 10:19 AM  

I guess that solves the riddle of how a jew can be both an atheist and a jew. I'm waiting anxiously for Ben Shapiru's commentary on this one. I remember he took great pains once to point out that he does not officially have Israeli citizenship.

Blogger Miguel December 11, 2019 10:19 AM  

Well, thats that.

OT: Nick Fuentes finds out never to talk to the media: "At the time of this shoot I was 19 years old and had only been doing my show for a year. I initially declined to do the show because I knew "Jason Wolfe" and the media would not be kind to me but I never imagined a farce like this. Obviously I made a big mistake."

Blogger Robert What? December 11, 2019 10:21 AM  

Trump's love of the Jews and Israel does not seem to have bought him much love in return. Most of the leaders of the impeachment circus are Jewish.

Blogger The Cooler December 11, 2019 10:22 AM  

TGE: When isn't busy getting shit right for the right reasons he gets shit right for the wrong ones. How can you not love this guy?

Blogger Ryan G December 11, 2019 10:24 AM  

Jews are defined by whatever gives them the greatest advantage in the current situation.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums December 11, 2019 10:24 AM  

declare jews as a nation > declare Israel the nation of jews > declare all jews to have Israeli citizenship

The impeachment hearings are a perfect smokescreen for passing a law barring anyone with dual citizenship from holding public office.

Blogger Rakshasa December 11, 2019 10:24 AM  

We can't even resolve the issue of them being, or not being, Schrödinger Whites, and now you assume the nationality vs. religion debate is settled?

Blogger Haus frau December 11, 2019 10:28 AM  

@6 I can't respect a full grown man that keeps falling back on "I'm just a kid" every time he gets caught in a mistake. Whether he was 16 or 20, he chose to be in the public eye making big boy statements but then hides behind his beardless, little boy facade when people respond accordingly. Even now he is still trying to play the left wing child-soldier game.

Blogger Jeroth December 11, 2019 10:41 AM  

@3 I think everyone should be furious about encroachments on the first amendment that only appease the tiniest minority of an already small minority. Who actually wanted this? About .01% of our population and a handful of people living in Israel?

Watching Trump continue to lecture American Jews about not being loyal to Israel is kinda fun, though.

Blogger CF Neal December 11, 2019 10:43 AM  

Okay.
Now, as a preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and as a student of Biblical prophecy, I am going to take a moment or two & process this "determination" & perhaps then be able to improve my understanding of the times and seasons.

Blogger rondolf December 11, 2019 10:47 AM  

We are one step closer to becoming the 1920's Soviet Union. I hope the new Gulags are located in Guantanamo.

Blogger Deus Vult December 11, 2019 10:49 AM  

@2 Ska_Boss wrote:The Jew is immunized against all dangers:

one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out.


So it begins. The greatest j**storm of our time.

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 11, 2019 10:53 AM  

Well, I’m glad that President Trump has conclusively settled this question so we can all talk about these questions without ambiguity. People who hide behind ambiguity and constantly shifting terminology, after all, are generally not good people.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 11, 2019 10:54 AM  

A question still remains. Do those Black Hebrew nationals in New Jersey count?

Blogger DJ | AMDG December 11, 2019 11:03 AM  

This puts to mind the Facebook argument regarding publisher vs platform. Facebook is only really pleased when they can ride whichever side of that argument suits them at the time. It doesn’t really matter which side the .gov legally defines them. When locked in they cry foul regardless...because Facebook knows their business intrinsically harms society and by being held to a standard...any standard, rules will be applied to prosecute them.

Blogger Beardy Bear December 11, 2019 11:15 AM  

In "The Occult Roots of Nazism," (1985) it specifically defines antisemitism as claiming Jews are genetically different than the nations they come from.

Blogger Argus Bacchus December 11, 2019 11:17 AM  

"Years of observation and thought have given increasing strength to the belief that we Jews stand apart from you gentiles, that a primal duality breaks the humanity I know into two distinct parts; that this duality is a fundamental, and that all differences among you gentiles are trivialities compared with that which divides all of you from us."

Maurice Samuel, "You Gentiles"

Blogger Oswald December 11, 2019 11:22 AM  

My interpretation of the bible leads me to believe that Israel will likely be taken over in the end times and suffer a deportation to distance parts of the world again. There is also the possibility that the false prophet mentioned in revelation will be Jewish.

Blogger James Dixon December 11, 2019 11:37 AM  

> I remember he took great pains once to point out that he does not officially have Israeli citizenship.

But he does have right of return. Which he carefully fails to mention.

Blogger Nathan Hornok December 11, 2019 11:43 AM  

According to the US State Department definition of anti-semitism, one such example is "Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations."

But now that Trump's Exec Order gives Jews a legal status as a Nation, what exactly is supposed to be understood as "their own nations" in the above definition of anti-semitism?

The quandaries about Jewish identity that Hilaire Belloc discussed in his book 100 years ago are pretty much unchanged today.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 11, 2019 11:47 AM  

Next up, whether or not Jews are white.
And it's official that Jews have somewhere else to be instead of messing with wherever they are.

Blogger Rek. December 11, 2019 11:49 AM  

Oh boy!! The antisemite in me is all giddy. Fun times ahead.

Blogger Oswald December 11, 2019 11:58 AM  

Can someone explain what Trump is trying to accomplish here as it excapes me other than the obvious to stop the boycotting of Israel? There must be some hidden goal he is working towards beyond this.

Blogger MJ December 11, 2019 12:07 PM  

This was already a legal precedent as regards discrimination, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out coming from an executive order.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/u-s-court-rules-jews-are-protected-race-under-civil-rights-act-1.6291921

Blogger Jack Morrow December 11, 2019 12:23 PM  

The Canadian census categorized Jews separately from whites as late as 1961.

Blogger Crew December 11, 2019 12:23 PM  

@20: There must be a lot of anti-semitic geneticists out there.

Also PCA is anti-semitic!

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 11, 2019 12:26 PM  

@11 and now you assume the nationality vs. religion debate is settled?

Apparently some people are not intelligent enough to recognize obvious sarcasm.

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 11, 2019 12:28 PM  

@24 The quandaries about Jewish identity that Hilaire Belloc discussed in his book 100 years ago are pretty much unchanged today.

Yeah, if you'd like to talk about that, I've currently got a discussion group running about Belloc's book. We'd love to have you.

Blogger Jeroth December 11, 2019 12:33 PM  

Oswald wrote:Can someone explain what Trump is trying to accomplish here as it excapes me other than the obvious to stop the boycotting of Israel? There must be some hidden goal he is working towards beyond this.

There might be a goal, but it's not necessarily satisfyingly related to this move. Maybe he's just dealing with powerful Jews and giving them things they want in exchange for things he wants. That's kinda what he does. The things given in return don't need to be logically related to the thing he gave.

Blogger FUBARwest December 11, 2019 12:44 PM  

"Can someone explain what Trump is trying to accomplish here as it excapes me other than the obvious to stop the boycotting of Israel? There must be some hidden goal he is working towards beyond this."

It makes it harder to go "Hello fellow whites..." when you you arent classified as white. The chosen and the altretards get to claim this is a precursor to Burnt Offering 2: Electric Boogaloo if they want. Or maybe repatriation are a thing in the future? Clearer lines can never be a mad thing.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( you think it's a coincidence that Tucker Carlson shares initials with Ted Cobbler? Never Go Full Retard ) December 11, 2019 12:56 PM  

"President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion, thus bolstering the Education Department's efforts to stamp out "Boycott Israel" movements on college campuses."


errr.

so it IS okay to discriminate on the basis of religion?


18. Arthur Isaac December 11, 2019 10:54 AM
Do those Black Hebrew nationals in New Jersey count?



i lurvs me them guys SO MUCH.

watching them rip up light skinned Jews due to insufficient oppression points, and watching the Jews slink away with their crocodile tears about Muh Genocide is so hilarious.



20. Beardy Bear December 11, 2019 11:15 AM
defines antisemitism as claiming Jews are genetically different than the nations they come from.



but ... the genes ARE different than the nations amongst which they are living. Israel itself USES genetic testing for immigration purposes.

is your argument that Reality and the nation of Israel are "anti-semitic"?


21. Argus Bacchus December 11, 2019 11:17 AM
Maurice Samuel, "You Gentiles"



Jonah lives.


27. Oswald December 11, 2019 11:58 AM
There must be some hidden goal he is working towards beyond this.




for all the good that he does, Trump is still a civ-nat Boomer. and prone to many of the retarded civ-antinazi tropes in which they were raised.

Blogger Gettimothy December 11, 2019 1:00 PM  

Justice demands a Census classification to account for all the Jews in America

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 11, 2019 1:02 PM  

@30 There must be a lot of anti-semitic geneticists out there.

23andme has a category for Ashkenazi Jews that is separate from other European nationalities. It looks like they're now anti-semitic thought criminals too. Those poor persecuted Jews. They're just surrounded by so many anti-semites. And none of it is ever their fault!

Blogger The Lab Manager December 11, 2019 1:20 PM  

So when can we start deporting (((them)))? Would those of (((them))) dissatisfied not be more happy with their own people? Plus, courtesy of helpless goy US taxpayers, Israel has a better wall for repelling invaders, so they should certainly feel safe.

This one aspect where I'm disappointed with Trump and most other politicians; I don't really give a damn about Israel and whether it exist or not.

Blogger James Dixon December 11, 2019 1:35 PM  

> Can someone explain what Trump is trying to accomplish here as it excapes me other than the obvious to stop the boycotting of Israel?

See "thus bolstering the Education Department's efforts to stamp out "Boycott Israel" movements on college campuses." posted earlier.

Blogger Akulkis December 11, 2019 1:36 PM  

@27

"Can someone explain what Trump is trying to accomplish here as it excapes me other than the obvious to stop the boycotting of Israel?"

My guess is that within the next year, he'll be using it to pull the rug out from underneath the "dual-nationals" who are waging crypto-war against us.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 11, 2019 1:38 PM  

Is this even a step in the right direction?

"Clearer lines can never be a mad thing."

The below is not clearer.

"President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion"

That's not necessarily saying that it's just a nationality. That might be saying that it's both a religion and nationality at the same time.

"For instance, it describes as anti-Semitic “denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination” under some circumstances and offers as an example of such behavior “claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.”"

Contradiction in terms is not a good sign. The above is reference to https://www.state.gov/defining-anti-semitism/ which is the definition of anti semitism to be used per the order.

While the below might be seen as saying that the Jews are specifically a race,

"The order to be signed by Mr. Trump would empower the Education Department in such actions. Under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the department can withhold funding from any college or educational program that discriminates “on the ground of race, color, or national origin.” Religion was not included among the protected categories, so Mr. Trump’s order will have the effect of embracing an argument that Jews are a people or a race with a collective national origin in the Middle East, like Italian Americans or Polish Americans."

This is not actually true from the content. What it it really saying is that the Jews will be protected as a race under the civil rights act. Trump's order does not, as far as I can tell, say that they are only a race.

Am I missing something here?

Blogger Gettimothy December 11, 2019 1:40 PM  

Prediction. "It is not enough! Trump must (insert list of demands further cementing Jewish power over the goys here)

Blogger HouellebecqGurl December 11, 2019 1:44 PM  

I remember how proud Lil Benjy was on Twitter to show his 23andme results that showed him to be 100% Ashkenazim.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 11, 2019 1:48 PM  

furor kek tonicus ( iz it can be entrails on the ceiling time? don't consent to the IFLGravity! ) wrote:is your argument that Reality and the nation of Israel are "anti-semitic"?

Real'ty be all rayciss and she-it.

We all know this is about who-whom, not about logic or right and wrong.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 11, 2019 1:50 PM  

"but ... the genes ARE different than the nations amongst which they are living. Israel itself USES genetic testing for immigration purposes.

is your argument that Reality and the nation of Israel are "anti-semitic"?"


The definitions adopted by the order delineate that Jews have no necessary connection to Israel.

It's the argument used by the order itself. That Jews have no genetic connection to Israel and yet are to be protected as a nationality. They have their cake and have eaten it too.

Blogger Stilicho December 11, 2019 1:51 PM  

NA(WTMOAIPI)ALT!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 11, 2019 1:52 PM  

"(((23andme))) has a category for Ashkenazi Jews that is separate from other European nationalities."

Every single time. https://infogalactic.com/info/Anne_Wojcicki

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 11, 2019 1:57 PM  

Akulkis wrote:My guess is that within the next year, he'll be using it to pull the rug out from underneath the "dual-nationals" who are waging crypto-war against us.
That would be very out of character for what I understand so far of Trump's character. He's surprised me before, and if he does undermine the Jewish globohomos by calling them on their divided loyalties, he will surprise me again.

Blogger sammibandit December 11, 2019 1:59 PM  

If you go through the Berlin holocaust museum you are taught that jews are practically indistinguishable from Germans. Well, sit me down because I'm confused! I've been eating pretzels with mustard instead of cream cheese like a fool. At least it explains why Yiddish sounds completely made up.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 11, 2019 2:02 PM  

So I guess it's time we set up reservations for them. We've done it with modest success with the American Indians.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon December 11, 2019 2:16 PM  

Doesn't Israel consider Jews to be a 'nation'? This hardly seems like an extreme position, particularly given that the whole point of Zionism was that Jews have primary loyalty to their tribe, and not to their host countries.

I've learned that Jews will complain and guilt trip no matter what you do. If you take Theodore Herzl seriously and call them a nation, they complain. If you call them white, they complain. If you point out their overwhelming economic power, they complain. If you fail to complement them on their over-representation in elite fields, they complain. Trump has been outright subservient to Jewish interests, yet the whole impeachment process has so many Jews that you mind as well hold it in a synagogue.

Blogger Johnny December 11, 2019 2:18 PM  

The law will embrace a legal fiction. Maybe the most obvious example is allowing a corporation to be a person in legal proceedings. So even if they are not a nationality, they can be assumed to be a nationality.

I wonder, how do you figure out who is Jewish? You become a nationality by embracing a religion? Am I a Jew? Or a Rabbi? Are you dear reader?

The way things are going I am surprised there aren't more people faking stuff like Fauxahantus. Hispanic would be another choice.

Blogger Up from the pond December 11, 2019 2:24 PM  

No.

I am the REAL Jew.

ME.

The rest of you are Italo-Turkic Khazar losers.

You shall address me as "King Solomon, High Patriarch of the Jews."

The KING Hath Spoken!

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( you think it's a coincidence that Tucker Carlson shares initials with Ted Cobbler? Never Go Full Retard ) December 11, 2019 2:32 PM  

44. Ominous Cowherd December 11, 2019 1:48 PM
We all know this is about who-whom, not about logic or right and wrong.



yes, but it never hurts to rub their faces in the Dialectic that, according to their own definitions, they are calling Israel and IFLScience! antisemitic.



52. Johnny December 11, 2019 2:18 PM
The law will embrace a legal fiction.



there's no shortage of that.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 11, 2019 2:46 PM  

"The way things are going I am surprised there aren't more people faking stuff like Fauxahantus."

There are.

Even from the non-malicious side of things, there are people you just don't want to know anything at all about you. This is where the concept of faeries abusing peoples' true-names comes from, and why tribal peoples have sometimes thought that people taking photographs of them were trying to steal their souls. Because they were trying to steal their souls in a sense.

Many people are way, way too trusting of strangers.

Blogger Wario's Mart December 11, 2019 2:56 PM  

Imagine naming all the Jews at once. If Jew are a separate nation does this now mean that they can have funding withheld if they discriminate against Americans? Say at Harvard?

Blogger LiveForever December 11, 2019 2:58 PM  

How topical - today the BBC is celebrating the Members of the Jewish Nation who pioneered the gay porn industry:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50662998

Only 6 sentences in their Nation is revealed.

Blogger Haus frau December 11, 2019 3:12 PM  

@57 well look at that. I bet Barry the gay porn peddler is a fan of star trek.

"Barry had worked as a special effects engineer in the film industry, including Star Trek and 2001 Space Odyssey"

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 11, 2019 3:24 PM  

furor kek tonicus ( iz it can be entrails on the ceiling time? don't consent to the IFLGravity! ) wrote:yes, but it never hurts to rub their faces in the Dialectic that, according to their own definitions, they are calling Israel and IFLScience! antisemitic.
Maybe so, mein furor. It just feels like the old ``Dems are the real racists.''

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei December 11, 2019 3:27 PM  

defining Judaism as a nationality

They can't even use "Jewish" in a statement announcing Jews as their own nation? How can an -ism be a nationality?

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( you think it's a coincidence that Tucker Carlson shares initials with Ted Cobbler? Never Go Full Retard ) December 11, 2019 3:45 PM  

i asked a question of him, i didn't simply make the accusation.

Blogger Gettimothy December 11, 2019 3:46 PM  

I am counting my blessings they don't alliterate like Jesse Jackson.

Blogger Crew December 11, 2019 4:23 PM  

I wonder if Elizabeth Warren is Jewish or was she just virtue signalling to Jews? Maybe she should have asked for Leo Frank to be exonerated as well.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/exclusive-senator-elizabeth-warrens-letter-to-barack-obama-requesting-exoneration-of-notorious-communist-spy-ethel-rosenberg/

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 11, 2019 4:41 PM  

Can someone explain what Trump is trying to accomplish here as it excapes me other than the obvious to stop the boycotting of Israel?

I don't assume it's anything more than that, actually, although I doubt he cares about it at all. It's something that's happening anyway at multiple levels of government, with or without him, so it's an item where he can throw a bone to a lot of his own party (and family) without any significant cost.

That doesn't mean it couldn't backfire on the Jews by cutting off one of their rhetorical escape routes. They understand that, and they notice that a lot of Trump's apparently pro-Israel acts seem to have that quality of supporting them in a potentially dangerous way. That's why they hate him so much. They do believe he's setting them up.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 11, 2019 4:55 PM  

He’s already undermining them by not staying in Syria so we can fight Russia and Iran. Bibi probably hates him but has to publicly love him. All TGE had to do was move the embassy, and now this.

Blogger nidus of inflection December 11, 2019 5:04 PM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:
"President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion"

That's not necessarily saying that it's just a nationality. That might be saying that it's both a religion and nationality at the same time.

Did they just become a proposition nation?

Blogger Crew December 11, 2019 5:07 PM  

@63: OK, she's just sucking up to them!

https://www.jta.org/2019/01/04/politics/five-jewish-facts-to-know-about-elizabeth-warren

Blogger Wario's Mart December 11, 2019 5:34 PM  

The ADL supports the move. And apparently it only applies when Jews are in a crime situation. I don't know whose Jewing who. I guess the fact it adds degrees of separation is still important.

Blogger map December 11, 2019 5:35 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:That doesn't mean it couldn't backfire on the Jews by cutting off one of their rhetorical escape routes. They understand that, and they notice that a lot of Trump's apparently pro-Israel acts seem to have that quality of supporting them in a potentially dangerous way.

What Trump is doing is very clever. Basically, he is forcing all parties out of the muddy middle by polarizing the circumstances. This is true for both this move and the embassy in Israel. Remember, among Leftists, there is a big cottage industry of "Israel criticism" that is fake. Basically, a controlled opposition. Trump's moves are raising the noise level beyond what this fake opposition can reasonably contain, which will ratchet conflict among Leftists to the point where these organizations will be rendered ineffective. What replaces them will escalate the Lefty civil war.

Blogger JovianStorm December 11, 2019 5:51 PM  

Seeing as how most of the non-white left is rabidly anti-Jew, the Justice Department now has a new legal hammer to use against them.

It has the double benefit of assuaging the elite Jews that control the entertainment industry. "Vy, dis goy is on our side, leys not scrutinize him so much and go back to hoarding gold and underage slaves."

Trump has proven that he's willing to let the line play out considerably in order to hook the opposition and hold them fast. Even in the impeachment coup, he's going to hold his fire until he gets the entire mess of them in the zone.

Have faith in he whom God anointed to lead us.

Blogger Dyspeptic December 11, 2019 6:51 PM  

@7: No matter how hard you try you can't not notice the prominence of the tribe whose name shall not be mentioned in the impeachment farce. Although I guess henceforth they should be called the nationality whose name shall not be mentioned. I smell the baleful influence of Javanka in this nonsense.

Blogger brbrophy December 11, 2019 7:01 PM  

Can this be used as a legal precedent to pressure non-American US citizens to leave or assimilate?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 11, 2019 7:07 PM  

"Did they just become a proposition nation?"

Only according to the ones who aren't within the borders of said nation.

Blogger Calvin809 December 11, 2019 7:38 PM  

What are the implications for Judeo Christian now?

Blogger MidnightSun December 11, 2019 7:59 PM  

The only people not protected by U.S. law are now Christians. Its open season on the followers of Jesus Christ. Whereas, if you so much as look at a Jew the wrong way you'll go to jail. This is the logical end to this ridiculous law.
This is also a play to go after the New Testament and have the wording changed because of antisemitic (Jews killed Jesus Christ) writings.
E Michael Jones states: Anti-semitism once was defined as someone who didn't like Jews. Now its someone Jews don't like.
God help us.
This is not good for the Jews.


Blogger Jeroth December 11, 2019 8:19 PM  

brbrophy wrote:Can this be used as a legal precedent to pressure non-American US citizens to leave or assimilate?

With the will and determination, of course. But we have neither.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 11, 2019 9:35 PM  

MidnightSun wrote:E Michael Jones states: Anti-semitism once was defined as someone who didn't like Jews. Now its someone Jews don't like.
It was Pat Buchanan, said while (((they))) were purging him from the GOP for the crime think of saying "We should treat Israel like every other foreign nation."

Blogger Gettimothy December 12, 2019 5:42 AM  

"With the will and determination, of course. But we have neither."

you have neither

Blogger Timmy3 December 12, 2019 10:20 AM  

Highly advise the next step is Mormons in Utah and Christians in some states.

Blogger Poco December 12, 2019 1:53 PM  

I thought Sobran came up with this first.

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