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Thursday, January 09, 2020

An act of self-regicide

I knew l'affaire de Markle was going to end badly. But I never suspected it was going to end in such a spectacularly bad manner:
Senior members of the royal family have gathered at Kensington Palace to celebrate the Duchess of Cambridge's 38th birthday amid an ongoing crisis after Prince Harry and Meghan's bombshell announcement last night.

Kate was seen arriving back at the palace today along with other royals such as Prince Eugenie, with birthday celebrations set to be dominated by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's decision to step back from family roles.

There are expected to be crisis talks today among the most senior family members, who are said to be 'downright furious' after learning about the announcement minutes before it broke on television news channels last night.

Royal sources today claimed Prince Harry had ignored crystal-clear orders from the Queen on the subject, after she instructed him not to make announcement about his future plans at this time.

It is understood that Harry had requested a meeting with the Queen at Sandringham as soon as he arrived back in the UK with Meghan and their son Archie this weekend, following a six-week Christmas break to Canada.

The Queen offered to meet the Duke - which was blocked by courtiers - but she still made an explicit request to her grandson that he first discuss his future plans in detail with his father, the Prince of Wales.

But the couple defied the order, going ahead with the announcement and 'pressing the nuclear button' on their royal careers, with William and Charles allegedly receiving a copy of the statement just 10 minutes beforehand.
I would definitely recommend avoiding boarding any flight that happens to be carrying Harry, Megan, Andrew, and Fergie. Just, you know, as a precaution. Especially when the British government can so easily play the Lockerbie card and blame the Iranians seeking revenge for General Soleimani.

Royal sources today claimed Prince Harry had ignored crystal-clear orders from the Queen on the subject

One almost wonders if he blames the Queen for his mother's fate. I find it hard to believe that anyone can be that ensorcelled by a third-rate actress.

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115 Comments:

Blogger Ska_Boss January 09, 2020 8:05 AM  

Just goes to show that even the elite aren't exempt from the progressive agenda. Don't take the ticket folks, the ride never ends.

Blogger jarheadljh January 09, 2020 8:11 AM  

They could kill him.... or they could "discover" that his DNA test results had been doctored and that he really is the result of an infidelity with a tennis player. I'm sure the whole bunch will be devastated.

Blogger pdwalker January 09, 2020 8:41 AM  

she might be a third rate actress, but based on the videos that got scrubbed from youtube, i can guess what she’s first rate at.

Blogger tublecane January 09, 2020 8:50 AM  

Harry, being within 6 or fewer heartbeats of the crown, could have had his marriage proposal vetoed by Granny. This is all her fault, when you think about it.

I mean, c'mon. We knew they weren't getting Grace Kelly.

Blogger Carlos Carrasco January 09, 2020 8:53 AM  

To the Tower with them both! Prince Andrew could use the company.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz January 09, 2020 8:57 AM  

This man isn't the son of the Prince of Wales. He may be titlet "yhe Prince" never the less he will never be allowed to take the Throne.

Blogger DavidFromOhio January 09, 2020 8:58 AM  

They are few things that can cause as much destruction in a man's life then a woman. I have seen what a good women can do for man. I have also experienced the destruction of being with a bad woman. Nothing is more important then for a man then to teach his sons then the able to spot a good woman and you cant change a bad woman into a good woman

Blogger Silent Draco January 09, 2020 8:59 AM  

Thinking about it, the whole Megan affair pressed every button on the Queen's list with the exception of practicing Papist, but including Uncle Edward. I wouldn't want to be within the same county of a theoretical accident, to be out of a purely hypothetical debris field.

Blogger patlalrique January 09, 2020 9:00 AM  

Only few months with diversity and the ''Harry'' is already well on his way to self-destruction. They are thinking about moving to Canada, where we could have the blessing of seeing these former royals joining the social justice circles of the likes of Trudeau et al.

After all, the royal family is formally bound to moderation and restraint, a requirement no longer needed since the couple has given up their royal duties: we might have the joy to savor items such as moral superiority and enlighten progressivism straight from the former Buckingham residents!

That's exactly what is lacking here: more political and social commentary from famous people that have barely ever work a real job in their life.

Blogger D E K January 09, 2020 9:01 AM  

Or any other kind of transportation...
I ask myself where people like the Clintons and these two get their bodyguards from? The chance of seeihg something not for your eyes or end as collateral damage must be high.

Blogger peacefulposter January 09, 2020 9:08 AM  

As Rollo continues to say:

Tick, Tick, Tick...

Blogger pdwalker January 09, 2020 9:09 AM  

@D E K,

google the clinton body count then search for security.

like this one, for example
https://www.conservapedia.com/Clinton_body_count

(this is not an endorsement of truthfulness, but i dare say i wouldn’t want to work their security

Blogger Rough Carrigan January 09, 2020 9:09 AM  

Harry, Duke of Pussywhip.

Blogger tuberman January 09, 2020 9:22 AM  

This and Paul Krugman at the same time. CNN settling the lawsuit. The doors are coming off the unhinged.

Can someone keep a list of all the falls, fails, self-destructs, and suicides sliding down the mirror world mountain?

"Enjoy the show."

Blogger Oswald January 09, 2020 9:25 AM  

I doubt their marriage will last. I give it two years.

Blogger Joe January 09, 2020 9:34 AM  

Could this be a play for Harry to divorce Meghan?
1. Harry disassociates himself from the RF
2. Chaos ensues
3. Bad feelings all around
4. H&M move to Canada, cut off from RF
5. H divorces M while in his reduced economic condition
6. Much of the RF wealth is thus sheltered
7. Returns home afterwards and everyone makes up

Blogger xevious2030 January 09, 2020 9:38 AM  

The whole Crown is being cucked. Publicly.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 09, 2020 9:39 AM  

Technically, he's 6th in line. I don't see him passing up William or George in anybody's lifetime.

Then again, I'm also pulling for the Stuart line to reclaim the throne, so there's that.

Blogger Hoyabembe January 09, 2020 9:47 AM  

From coming across various bits of information over the years, I've gotten the vibe that Harry has always liked Americans better than the English. Maybe he sees himself as a delta and most Americans aren't impressed with his heritage.

Blogger borsabil January 09, 2020 9:54 AM  

He was a young, right wing alpha and he's turned into.....this? I don't understand how the Harry of 10 years ago is now this woke cuck. He met Princess Harambe while she was yachting with one of his rich friends. His buddy literally paid her to sleep with him. Now he's off to Canada to be a literal hooker's handbag? Is she that good in bed or is he being blackmailed?

Blogger Dos Voltz January 09, 2020 10:06 AM  

On the other hand, not being beholden to a family that keeps naked slaves trapped in top floor rooms of their castle seems like an upward move.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 09, 2020 10:17 AM  

@14: Concur. Add to the list one William Tecumseh Gervais and the Burning of Hollywood.

Blogger Roman Daoist January 09, 2020 10:19 AM  

I just can't understand how a guy who could almost walk up to any of the top 1% most beautiful women in the world, point a finger at them, and say, You, want to marry me? - and probobaly get better than 50% positive, would go for Meghan.

Bubbliest niciest blondiest cutiest chick in the UK/ Aus/ Can/ Euro would be mine (and her sister when it's my birthday). And. Not. Meghan.

What a clusterfuck.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 10:26 AM  

There is female solipsism, then there is malignant narcissism. I think this is a classic example of what a narcissistic woman does to a man. Like Sampson and Delilah, but faster and worse. South Park recently had an episode about narcissistic relationships, and YouTube has been bubbling a lot of good videos up to the top on the topic. How did Prince Harry end up with Meghan? As a narcissist, she is very good at the initial "love bombing" stage of the relationship.

Blogger Ingemar January 09, 2020 10:27 AM  

Why do Brit royals act as if distance from the line of succession equals license to shit the bed? There are many, MANY people with no hope of wearing the Crown that have made more virtuous use of their lives than Harry or Andrew.

Blogger Johnny January 09, 2020 10:28 AM  

This Megan Markle is so far from what would be desired by the royal family that I think he married her as a snub to the family. With that attitude, even if indeed it is her leading him aside, it would be so easy that really it would just be him going along because he wants to.

I don't much care for the whole royals thing, maybe they should be done with it. But the current rebels are worse than the stuffed shirts who go along. Really just self indulgent 'progressives'. They don't figure they shouldn't have to put up with even being inconvenienced on occasion. That is often what progressive means, don't inconvenience me with any of your rules

Blogger Servant January 09, 2020 10:29 AM  

Why is he not forth?

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 10:29 AM  

And if Prince Harry's "friends" paid Meghan to sleep with Harry, then no doubt they knew she was a narcissist. This was a set up. Normally a malignant narcissist is identified early on and kept away. This was like an intentional hit on Harry.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 10:31 AM  

@26 until you've experienced the full love bombing from a narcissist, you might think Harry was doing it as a snub. I don't think he was.

Blogger Silly but True January 09, 2020 10:34 AM  

What are odds that Markle stays after Harry’s free meal ticket ends?

As part of her move to self-reliance will she move him to an fee schedule by time, location and included services?

Blogger notjoshing January 09, 2020 10:36 AM  

I'm mentally kind of stuck on the six-week vacation mentioned in passing.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 10:58 AM  

Knowing how narcissists and codependants become that way, answering the question of how Harry could be ensorcelled by a third rate actress is best not answered, it would lead to uncomfortable speculations about other members of his immediate family.

Blogger cecilhenry January 09, 2020 10:59 AM  

How about next time the Royals have real standards and say HELL NO to the whole thing before it happens.


Remember the lavish farce of a wedding in a huge church with thousands of virtue signallers who would sell their neighbours kids for a tv ad??

(Many British elites have DONE just that)


Yeah all THAT.


For people with real standards and vision, miscegention and porn careers are absolute, unequivocal, and unrepentant NO WAY NEVER decisions!!!


How was this abomination even EVER imaginable to these people?

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia January 09, 2020 11:06 AM  

pdwalker wrote:she might be a third rate actress, but based on the videos that got scrubbed from youtube, i can guess what she’s first rate at.

Nail on the proverbial head -- metaphorically speaking.

Rumor has it that Wallis Simpson performed like a porn star, too, which is why the Duke of Windsor threw it all away.

Nothing like throwing away your duty for a babe who's one step above Stormy Daniels. At least the GE figures out how to discard them.

Where do you think Harry likes on SSH? Low low low Beta? The sort that marries the girl who's been passed around? You know, just know, that MM rode the carousel for man revolutions.

Blogger mike January 09, 2020 11:09 AM  

Today.com: "Oct 18, 2019 · The royal got candid about his grief and the reminders that take him “straight back” to the loss of Princess Diana. ... Prince Harry was just 12 years old when his mother died, but the years have done little to ease the pain for the now 35-year-old royal. ..."

Blogger tuberman January 09, 2020 11:10 AM  

Dos Voltz wrote:On the other hand, not being beholden to a family that keeps naked slaves trapped in top floor rooms of their castle seems like an upward move.

When Diana fled, she had stated, "These people are monsters," referring to the Windsor family she had wed into, and tons of stuff on 8chan over the last couple years to back that up. Their connections to and protection of a massively corrupt pedo, which went public, makes it obvious that much more was being covered over.

Blogger Karen took the Kids January 09, 2020 11:13 AM  

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. And he's got several women extremely scorned right now.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 09, 2020 11:42 AM  

So tired of hearing about how their mom died when they were kids.

Get over it.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 12:09 PM  

@38 can't fight the infection until you close the wound. Follow the wives. Who in Harry's life turned him into a codependant, and at what point was there any option to get them out of his life? (I suspect more than one was involved)

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 09, 2020 12:13 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:So tired of hearing about how their mom died when they were kids.

Get over it.

There is no doubt the boy is messed up. At age 35, he has to take most of the blame for that.

Blogger rumpole5 January 09, 2020 12:14 PM  

He certainly is the spitting image of his grandfather, Prince Phillip. Check out a picture of Phillip at Harry's age.

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 12:16 PM  

@26 and @29

Don't confuse simple Narcissistic Personality Disorder with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD combines NPD with Psychopathy and Sociopathy, and usually a dollop of Antisocial Personality Disorder.)

"Love Bombing" is totally BPD behavior, not NPD.

NPD's typically get abused by BPD's.
the NPD isn't the one doing the "love bombing", it's the BPD doing it.

Blogger Oswald January 09, 2020 12:19 PM  

I like to make everything that happens on the world stage about Trump. So I assume this has been manipulated by Trump or it is a move against him in some way.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 January 09, 2020 12:22 PM  

tublecane wrote:Harry, being within 6 or fewer heartbeats of the crown, could have had his marriage proposal vetoed by Granny. This is all her fault, when you think about it.

I mean, c'mon. We knew they weren't getting Grace Kelly.


The Queen has damaged much of Western civilization through her own inaction. She has allowed many Socialist policies to be implemented in England, Canada, and Australia when she could have intervened and stopped them and she has allowed the Church of England to fracture and split in so many ways because she couldn't be bothered to expel the Morlocks in the Church.

Blogger Elijah January 09, 2020 12:27 PM  

crazy that they avoided the scandal that he is not really a Windsor. His brother is what the commingling of genes between Diana and Charles look like. harry does not look at all like his brother or his supposed father. DNA testing was not as widespread back when he was born and i dont think the royals would have had one done anyway. No reason to prove what they already knew. And they could not afford a leak.

the word ensorcelled says it all. she used her "gifts" to enchant him and took his "will". But those "gifts" have a shelf life and her sell by date is already real close.

Blogger Steb January 09, 2020 12:34 PM  

In two years she'll release a sex tape with whoever she's cheating on him with, but she won't divorce him.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 09, 2020 12:35 PM  

Is there anyone in the royal family with balls?

Blogger Yordan Yordanov January 09, 2020 12:53 PM  

Has an "American marrying into a royal family" ever ended well?

Blogger WillBound January 09, 2020 12:53 PM  

@27. Why isn't Harry 4th? 1. Charles; 2. William; 3-5. William's children George, Charlotte, Louis (in that order - women now have the same right as men) 6. Harry.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 1:02 PM  

@42 hence "malignant narcissist" and "covert narcissism" as a categories. By their fruits do you know them. Narcissism is a spectrum and everyone is somewhere on it. Even the most alpha of men will be brought low by a narcissist. Sigmas are more likely to catch on fast and bounce them out of their circles quickly.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira January 09, 2020 1:05 PM  

"I find it hard to believe that anyone can be that ensorcelled by a third-rate actress."

*heavy robotic breathing*

"Do not underestimate the pow-wah of the Cuck Side.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 1:05 PM  

In at least one Christian discussion of narcissism, the topic of demon possession came up, and was while many agree with that diagnosis, it goes further. One person prayed that the demon be cast out and asked it to name itself. The name Lucifer came out. Then I thought to the book of Ezekiel where Lucifer son of morning is described... and it fit the narcissists motivations and modus operandi perfectly. Then I thought of "Lucy" the short form of Lucifer. Remember "Lucy" from the Charlie Brown comics? She always got Charlie Brown to kick the football, then yanked it away every time, setting him up for failure? Perfect narcissist behavior, all the more appropriate given her name as the short form of Lucifer. Narcissists are inhabited by one of the most powerful demons, and Christians need to be quick to prayer and holiness to get rid of him.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 09, 2020 1:12 PM  

@47: Yes. Queen Elizabeth II. I hear she keeps them in a bag to remind male members of the family who's in charge.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 09, 2020 1:18 PM  

Servant wrote:Why is he not forth?

Charles is first in line. Also parliament has done away with male succession primacy, so all three of Williams kids come before Harry.

Good thing they have NOT grandfathered this new law or I'd have a claim to the throne myself.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 1:18 PM  

Remember the character of Negan in the Walking Dead? Clearly a malignant narcissist. And who does he treasure and worship? His baseball bat named "Lucille", again a variant of "Lucifer".

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 09, 2020 1:19 PM  

swiftfoxmark2 wrote:The Queen has damaged much of Western civilization through her own inaction.
The Queen offered to meet the Duke - which was blocked by courtiers -...
Blocked by courtiers. My guess is that the queen isn't in charge of much of anything.
Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Is there anyone in the royal family with balls?
Not the queen. Perhaps the courtiers who run her life and her country?

Blogger maniacprovost January 09, 2020 1:20 PM  

If I were the Queen, well, that may be a logical impossibility. But if I were, the Duke's action would suffice as its own consequence.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 09, 2020 1:27 PM  

It would appear that the queen has taken a mild dislike to the browning of the royal lines.

Blogger Ghog January 09, 2020 1:34 PM  

They killed Harry's mother. Why wouldn't he want to separate from them?

Blogger Wazdakka January 09, 2020 1:50 PM  

Plantagenet re-throne now!
The people demand it

Blogger maniacprovost January 09, 2020 2:06 PM  

crazy that they avoided the scandal that he is not really a Windsor

Plantagenet re-throne now!

If England were not so thoroughly decadent, their best bet would be a series of wars to see which lord can unite the kingdom. With modern technology, we should be able to vote out one lord each week via text message, until the Final Head Off at Canterbury.

Assuming that the victor is a bachelor and ratings are decent, season 2 can feature 30 eligible bachelorettes competing for the queenship, cash, and valuable prizes.

Blogger Azimus January 09, 2020 2:06 PM  


WazdakkaJanuary 09, 2020 1:50 PM
Plantagenet re-throne now!
The people demand it

Are there any left? I know there are still Habsburgs and Hohenzollernz

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 2:30 PM  

@50

"hence "malignant narcissist" and "covert narcissism" as a categories."

Which recklessly villifies NPDs as if they were BPDs.

Which is akin to calling a hitman a "malignant competitive shooter" or "covert weapons aficionado"

Adverbs don't correct for using the wrong adjective.

Blogger RA January 09, 2020 2:33 PM  

Looking like a great pair of grifters.

Denninger hits this one.
Piers Morgan is very on target.

There will be a denouement.

Blogger RedJack January 09, 2020 2:38 PM  

Correct. There is a reason our forefathers kicked the royals out. Been reading about the Poison affair in France, and kept thinking about Epstein. Power with no accountability destroys the soul of most. Don't feel sorry for Harry, do feel sorry for his ki . Hopefully he can grow up a delta someday in Canada.

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 2:39 PM  

@50

". Then I thought of "Lucy" the short form of Lucifer. Remember "Lucy" from the Charlie Brown comics? She always got Charlie Brown to kick the football, then yanked it away every time, setting him up for failure? Perfect narcissist behavior, all the more appropriate given her name as the short form of Lucifer. Narcissists are inhabited by one of the most powerful demons, and Christians need to be quick to prayer and holiness to get rid of him."

But none of that is narcissism at all. That's the anti-social, psychopath and sociopath components of BPD that have absolutely NOTHING to do with narcissism.

Narcissm is basically being an attention whore.

I've known various NPDs and BPDs throughout my life. They are TOTALLY different.

NPD's are rarely deceptive.
With BPD's, it's as common as breathing.

NPD's rarely turn on their friends. BPD's have a long trail of ex-friends and ex-business relationships due to their underhanded and double-crossing behavior.

BPDs make great actors. NPDs rarely due.

BPDs also make great spies. They're good at bullshitting their way into and/or out of nearly any situation. And they tend not to care who they harm in the process.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 09, 2020 2:45 PM  

Wazdakka wrote:Plantagenet re-throne now!

The people demand it


I said, no, and I meant it!

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 2:49 PM  

Why are you defending narcissists? NPD and BPD are both evil, your description of NPD sounds like the "overt narcissist" who is easier to see coming, but it still harmful. The internet self-help communities discussing this aren't using the terms the way you are. My starting point was Anonymous Conservative's article, and it is a good one: https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/on-strategies-for-dealing-with-narcissists-in-family-and-social-circles/

Akulkis, you appear to be trying to confuse categories. If you self-identify as a narcissist, then may God have mercy on your soul, and Lucifer be cast out far from you. Deliberate category confusion is a subset of inversion, which is a big tell for the presence of Lucifer.

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2020 2:51 PM  

borsabil wrote:He was a young, right wing alpha and he's turned into.....this? I don't understand how the Harry of 10 years ago is now this woke cuck. He met Princess Harambe while she was yachting with one of his rich friends. His buddy literally paid her to sleep with him. Now he's off to Canada to be a literal hooker's handbag? Is she that good in bed or is he being blackmailed?

Prince Harry was never a "right-wing alpha".

The guy was a walking PR hood-ornament in Afghanistan. Never came near combat, never even deigned to leave the Helmand base which was about as dangerous as Northern Kurdistan from 2005-2008 Iraq War - so safe taht even Japanese and Korean forces deigned to make their window-dressing "contributions".

Everyone in Enduring Freedom who's familiar with this prancing Prince poseur can remember his bodyguards shooing away officers of higher rank and professional standing - while ushering in his entourage - but the ultimate disgrace that made this guy a laughing stock among American troops was when the media caught wind that he was in Afghanistan...

...which led him and his British entourage to tuck tail and flee Afghanistan faster than the Taliban in the wake of a Warthog.

Funny.

I don't see Trump acting so chicken-sh!t during his visits in Afghanistan - POTUS even dared the Taliban with press releases and twitter comments while visiting the troops. And he didn't take credit for combat-duty like Prince Harry and his PR handlers did -

Harry, again, never deigned to be anywhere near combat duty, in fact the entire British contingent rejected offers of US transport and helicopters to maintain the excuse that they didn't have the logistics to participate in actual combat duty in eastern provinces (you know, the border areas between Kabul and Islamabad where the war was being fought and incidentally adjacent to where Osama Bin Laden was being protected by teh Pakistanis.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 2:51 PM  

Specifically you seem to be confusing the category of "narcissist" with their conditioned victims, the "codependants". Quite an inversion.

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 3:00 PM  

@68

"Why are you defending narcissists? NPD and BPD are both evil, your description of NPD sounds like the "overt narcissist" who is easier to see coming, but it still harmful. The internet self-help communities discussing this aren't using the terms the way you are. "

And the internet self-help community is composed of a lot of uneducated morons who use terminology extremely sloppily, just like you.

I'm not defending so Narcissists a pointing out that you're doing is the equivalent of referring to the USAAF air raids over Germany and describing those raids as "bombers carrying around a dozen A-bombs each."

They aren't even in the same class.

You remind me of the people who describe ANY navy vessel as "a battleship" and every AR-15 as "An Assault Weapon"

What part of category error are you not understanding?

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 3:05 PM  

Specifically you seem to be confusing the category of "narcissist" with their conditioned victims, the "codependants". Quite an inversion."


BPD parents often raise kids who turn into NPDs or BPDs.

An NPD parent rarely raises their kids to become BPDs.

There's a few in my extended family who are BPDs, and some who are NPDs.
YOU'RE the one villifying the victims, not me.

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 3:12 PM  

By the way, Vaughan, why don't you try reading a DSM manual, and look at some written sketches of typical behavior for BPDs vs NPDs.

Quit criticizing my correction of your misuse of terminology when YOU are the one speaking from ignorance.

Talk about Luciferian inversions, you're taking the cake, pal.

Blogger Picturemaker January 09, 2020 3:15 PM  

Woke Wallis Simpson obviously has skills beyond a second rate ability to act.

Blogger tublecane January 09, 2020 3:16 PM  

@66- Narcissism is self-obsession.

Attention whoring is a thing many types do.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 09, 2020 3:41 PM  

So much psychology. So little time.

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2020 3:42 PM  

@75 Tublecane

You're right about the self-obsession. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the absolutely random, petty, and often overwhelming evil and chaos perpetrated by Borderlines which Mr. Williams is attributing to mere Narcissists.

BPD's will turn on someone on a dime. NPD's tend to be perpetual suck-ups, and put up with a lot of crap that normal people never would, just to perpetuate the relationship.

The only thing Mr. Williams has right is identifying the behavior of the primary offenders vs. that of the victims. What he seems to absolutely refuse to understand is that the word for those who, if they do not turn into Borderlines themselves, are typically Narcissists.

What the psych profession figured out is, in two-parent families:

If the father is BPD, the result tends to be kids who become NPD adults.

If the mother is BPD, the result tends to be kids who become BPD adults.

It all revolves around attachment disorders.

The psych community doesn't know shit about making people better, but they DID do a very good job of figuring out what emotional problems tend to be caused by which sorts of defective upbringing or other abuse.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 3:57 PM  

A sloppy definition is no evil, neither is it an inversion. There is a reason our host came up with the word "corception". In my sloppy ways I felt no need for it; all the religious folk who might have needed it were already using the word "hyperbole" to fill the same meaning. The dictionary definition of hyperbole was close enough.

If precision matters, it is available. We live under the Babel curse, and there is an international commentariat here who take their definitions from diverse contexts and sources. My imprecision might be irritating to you and I apologize, but also see no way around it. In your case, you choose the DMV as your source of definitions for this sort of thing; I have chosen the popular colloquial one because that is what people are using who aren't charging by the hour. And even some who are.

Sometimes specificity is needed, things need to be clarified. But there is a big difference between that and outright inversion and comingling of terms. If you insist on "muh DMV" you could be treading on an IQ 85 who is struggling to explain their experience as best they can and get help.

Anyway, a "narcissist" as defined by the old Greek myth is older and truer, and fits with Ezekiel's description of Lucifer. And the use of the name Lucy in popular culture fits this understand also.

Remember the country song, "You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille. With four hungry children and a crop in the field". This is the same spirit or type as Lucy in Charley Brown, yanking the football away when he kicks it, after she herself egged him on.

Now to invert this very old concept and say that narcissists are the victims, well, Ghislaine Maxwell was a victim too, but she is still an evil pedo-procurer. Yes, narcissists become that way through various types of abuse, but your usage of the term removes its mythological and Biblical connections, while popular usage has the blessing of low IQ usage... hard to fool someone who doesn't have the IQ for it. So the connections in popular usage remain.

Remember, the DMV is itself a sulfurous textbook of inversions, influenced and shaped by perverts and deviants. They have invented various disorders to label religious people, for instance. Hey there underground church in China! Did you know you are schizotypal according to the DMV? Free medications for everyone! Oh wait, there is no medication for that, I guess it is re-education camp for you.

I'll use DMV definitions when it is helpful and relevant. But it sounds like they've messed up the definition of narcissism to obscure the spiritual elements of it. I think Anonymous Conservative's article is a better starting point on this.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 3:59 PM  

And yes, DMV instead of DSM was me being sloppy. If there was an edit button I'd fix it.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 09, 2020 4:03 PM  

Also, you are using specific psychiatric terms like NPD and BPD, which I never did. I used the broad, popular terms, narcissist, covert, overt, and malignant. Attempting to reframe like this is dishonest, in my books.

Blogger Hieroglyph January 09, 2020 4:11 PM  

Hilariously, they've been removed from a royal portrait, Stalin style.

I tend to the view that Harry isn't even a royal, and the recently dead guy was telling the truth. This is a good out for everyone.

Never marry an actress.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei January 09, 2020 4:25 PM  

Is it still a wall of text if it's split over multiple posts?

Blogger Kiwi January 09, 2020 4:41 PM  

As a non American, the comments on this subject are fascinating but confusing.

We can't know what Trump is doing but somehow we know what the Royals do.

Is that a bias, or is this just light jokes and the royals are actually seen by Americans as celebrities?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2020 4:44 PM  

or multiple walls of text over multiple posts.

You're way off topic boys. Take it outside.

Blogger Kat January 09, 2020 5:01 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:He certainly is the spitting image of his grandfather, Prince Phillip. Check out a picture of Phillip at Harry's age.

Someone pointed this out to me once, and ever since I've wondered in the groom story isn't a huge red herring to divert everyone from the real paternity issue. That would make things complicated.

Blogger Joe January 09, 2020 5:19 PM  

"One almost wonders if he blames the Queen for his mother's fate."

If the rumors about his parentage are true, it's easy to see how he wants no connection.

Blogger Matrick January 09, 2020 5:35 PM  

I wish this myth that Harry is not Charles's son would die. He clearly is. He clearly resembles not only Charles but Philip and others on that side of the family, and does so more with every passing year. If anything, Harry looks more like Charles than does William, the latter more strongly resembling their mother.

Blogger Slippin JImmy January 09, 2020 6:04 PM  

His first serious girlfriend Chelsy Davy met your criteria.

Blogger A guy in a dusty attic January 09, 2020 6:22 PM  

"when the British government can so easily play the Lockerbie card"

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaa lol

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 09, 2020 7:04 PM  

Hadn't they already been exiled to Africa? What happened with that?

So I assume this has been manipulated by Trump

Back when they were engaged and people speculated the crown would have Markle "put away" somehow to prevent the wedding, an anon on 4chan claimed to know Trump had told them they couldn't kill her. Not that she was a plant necessarily, just that they were told pulling a Diana on an American citizen to save themselves embarrassment was out of bounds. Dunno.

Blogger Lola Falana January 09, 2020 7:19 PM  

Charles is 1st in line
William in 2nd
William's 3 children (George, Charlotte, Louis) are 3rd, 4th & 5th
Harry is 6th

Blogger jarheadljh January 09, 2020 8:21 PM  

Kiwi wrote:As a non American, the comments on this subject are fascinating but confusing.

We can't know what Trump is doing but somehow we know what the Royals do.

Is that a bias, or is this just light jokes and the royals are actually seen by Americans as celebrities?



If you want to understand Americans, this is the lens that you need to look through : America exists because Europeans decided that Europe sucked and got on a boat to go die in the wilderness carving out something new rather than stay there. If there's any real "Founding Idea" of America, it's that.

Americans don't see royals as celebrities. Americans see royals as parasites and as archaic throwbacks. Right or wrong, we mock because we don't understand why Europeans still keep them around.

Blogger Brett baker January 09, 2020 8:25 PM  

I wouldn't want the queen mad at me.

Blogger John Rockwell January 09, 2020 8:27 PM  

The fact tha Meghan Markle isnt even hot. And is in charge.

Shows how screwed up Harry is after Diana's death.

Blogger Brett baker January 09, 2020 8:28 PM  

"I knew him when he posted on Vox Popoli. It was obvious heads were going to roll once he was in charge."

Blogger John Rockwell January 09, 2020 8:28 PM  

Only God can do that.

Blogger patlalrique January 09, 2020 8:31 PM  

I'd like to revise what I've said, Harry always had a job. Being a Royal is a lot of commitment and he has been living this life since childhood. Now this comes with a significant income, and looks like the couple seeks to reduce its royal duties while keeping most of this income.

Blogger John Rockwell January 09, 2020 8:36 PM  

No wonder the Bolsheviks didnt arise in britain and try to overthrow the monarchy there.

Blogger John Rockwell January 09, 2020 8:37 PM  

If only Alphas can be trained to be Sigmas.

Blogger John Rockwell January 09, 2020 8:39 PM  

Richard III? Maybe he isnt as bad as his enemies make him out to be.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 09, 2020 9:45 PM  

Nothing is more important then for a man then to teach his sons then the able to spot a good woman and you cant change a bad woman into a good woman

@7 DavidfromOhio
One good way is to avoid easy women like the plague.

I doubt their marriage will last. I give it two years.

@15 Oswald
It might last. See: Emmanual Macron. Of course that would require Meghan understand that no HSMV man would look twice at her if she did divorce Harry.

He was a young, right wing alpha and he's turned into.....this? I don't understand how the Harry of 10 years ago is now this woke cuck.

@20 borsabil @23 Roman Daoist @24 Vaughan Williams
Harry falling for a (presumed) r-selected courtship with "love bombing" suggests there are deeper issues going on. I could understand a broken divorced man marrying a sketchy woman like that, but...

Maybe he was LIKE a broken divorced man. He should have married Chelsy Davy, but for whatever reason, that courtship failed. Considering Harry is a freaking prince, it would suggest to me that he was so Gamma that it wore on Chelsy and she ultimately rejected him.

And he is without a doubt also fully wokeified and is completely brainwashed as to how foolish he looks, and so I could also see him marrying Meghan as a political act. Being woke is a religion, after all. He did refuse to meet with President Trump when he was over in the UK. It would also ensure he never got over his Gammatude and be vulnerable to someone like Meghan in the first place.

Blogger Scuzzaman January 09, 2020 11:10 PM  

Somebody’s psyche is being revealed but I’m not sure it’s Meghan n Harry’s.

The queen doesn’t strike me as the indulgent forgiving type.

Blogger Pathfinderlight January 10, 2020 12:19 AM  

Allowing Harry to marry a malignant woman, issuing orders the Queen knew Harry would disobey, and lack of emotional support are all actions consistent with allowing Harry to self-destruct, allowing them to cut him out of the Royal family without looking like royal douchebags.

Blogger sammibandit January 10, 2020 1:23 AM  

There are Hastings, which I believe is a cadet branch, in Australia.

Blogger Kiwi January 10, 2020 1:35 AM  

@92. jarheadljh

I got that general drift but would be rude of me to presume without confirming.

"Right or wrong, we mock because we don't understand why Europeans still keep them around."

Because they are still enough like them.

Blogger Troushers January 10, 2020 3:20 AM  

Hewitt is a more likely culprit, but the Royals would surely not wish to take the humiliation.

Blogger Akulkis January 10, 2020 4:37 AM  

@102

"The queen doesn’t strike me as the indulgent forgiving type."

She served in the British army as an enlisted mechanic during WW2, and went through basic training just like all the other enlisted personnel. The only difference was she didn't sleep in the barracks with the other women -- her basic training base was a few miles from Windsor Castle, so that's where she slept at night. Not really a privilege -- that meant she had to get up earlier than all the other trainees in her unit, to give her time to be driven to the base in time to make first formation. And you can believe that her parents and staff members made absolutely sure she showed up early, not late. (I'm supposing the reason was to lower the risk of her being targeted by an assassin.)

Blogger Félicie January 10, 2020 9:18 AM  

According to the rumors, Meghan blackmailed her way into the Royal Family by way of some pizza-related information. The church at their wedding didn't have a carpet, which is very irregular. Her tiara and wedding rings are fakes. Harry and Meghan haven't been together for a while. Neither he nor she was in Canada just now; their hiking photograph is a fake. Meghan was never pregnant: there are loads of photos and video clips showing her pregnant tummy disappear, slide down or to the side, collapse when she goes down on her haunches, or become radically minimized after it was bigger. There is no "Archie:" she has borrowed a Turkish baby for official visits and photographs. Just passing it on, not endorsing.

What else? Don't believe that Prince Harry is a bastard. She looks very similar to Prince Charles around his eyes and eyebrows. Red hair runs in Diana's family. On the other hand, it's a little strange that little George has brown eyes while both parents have light-coloured eyes. This was supposed to be impossible according to my school biology textbook. but perhaps genetics is more complicated that that.

Blogger Lazarus January 10, 2020 10:53 AM  

The Plan to reinstate the Duke of Windsor

The telegrams revealed in the Marburg files claim that the Duke and Duchess were clued in on the Nazis’ plan to reinstate the Duke as the king and that the Duchess was a fan of the idea.

“Both seem to be completely bound up in formalistic ways of thought since they replied that according to British constitution this was not possible after abdication,” one telegram read.

“When [an] agent then remarked the course of war may produce changes even in the British constitution the Duchess, in particular, became very thoughtful.”

In another telegram, statements allegedly made by the Duke himself said that he was “convinced that had he remained on throne war would have been avoided.” The papers went onto say that the Duke was “a firm supporter of a peaceful compromise with Germany.”


So who is Prince Harry's Patron?

Blogger Akulkis January 10, 2020 11:38 AM  

@108

" Meghan was never pregnant: there are loads of photos and video clips showing her pregnant tummy disappear, slide down or to the side, collapse when she goes down on her haunches, or become radically minimized after it was bigger. There is no "Archie:" she has borrowed a Turkish baby for official visits and photographs. Just passing it on, not endorsing."

She's not too bright.

She went on with the "I'm pregnant" routine for what... 15 months?

Blogger Dos Voltz January 10, 2020 5:04 PM  

Harry ain't dumb. If they move to Canada he can run for Prime Minister and the people will make him and his First Lady more popular than Trump and poutine combined.

And then Harry raise the world's YUGEST middle finger to his nana and the whole Brit empire, such that it is

Well, that's how I'd play it

Blogger Akulkis January 10, 2020 5:39 PM  

@111

Although it's much bigger, and has much more unexplored resources, Canada is second string to the UK. It's very sparsely populated. In WW2, they only produced a couple divisions.

Blogger Ranger January 10, 2020 5:54 PM  

Aren't they Norman usurpers? Any descendants of Alfred the Great around?

Blogger Paul M January 10, 2020 6:58 PM  

Oswald wrote:I doubt their marriage will last. I give it two years.
Two years for any marrige at all is a pretty safe bet these days.

Blogger Dos Voltz January 10, 2020 8:04 PM  

@112

Very true

But a Head of State is a head of state and the wife becomes front row, center. Attention whore nirvana

I am not a fan of the English Royal Family, nor of the former Empire, nor Harry, nor Meghan.

But a cancerous oozing blob saved from the incinerator is preferable to the blackface Castro ballerina faggot Trudeau

4 adjectives there BTW

Harry is a veteran of war. And Canada loves multi-culti, so Meghan (with her new Anglo nose) is palatable to the old school white fogies as well as to "thebrowningsofAmerica" [TM Ben Shapiro]

Good Lord I should've made billions in PR

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