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Monday, February 24, 2020

Negative coattails

Senate and Congressional Democrats are not eager to feel the Bern:
Former astronaut Mark Kelly, the Democratic Party’s hope for flipping a U.S. Senate seat in Arizona, tried to do no harm this month when he was asked about Sen. Bernie Sanders. “I will ultimately support who the nominee is of the Democratic Party,” he said.

That was enough for Kelly’s Republican rival, Sen. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., who is trailing him in early polls, to go on the attack. The television spot she debuted days later spent nearly as much time talking about plans by the democratic socialist from Vermont to raise taxes and award new benefits to undocumented immigrants as it did about Kelly.

As Sanders, a political independent, builds what could eventually be an insurmountable delegate lead, many Democratic House and Senate candidates are approaching a dramatic shift in their campaigns, as they recalibrate to include praise of capitalism and distance themselves from the national party. Top campaign strategists from both major parties view Sanders’ success as a potentially tectonic event, which could narrow the party’s already slim hopes of retaking the Senate majority and fuel GOP dreams of reclaiming the House, which it lost amid a Democratic romp in 2018.
The Trumpslide is going to be epic!

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Blogger Weak February 24, 2020 9:48 AM  

Going to throw a shutout. 535-0.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei February 24, 2020 9:57 AM  

Even when staring disaster right in the face, they still write it as if they're winning if we'd just look at it right. I, for one, don't remember any "Democratic romp" in 2018. I remember the progtards claiming there was going to be a romp, even a tidal wave, and it fizzled out into the typical midterm, which makes one wonder how bad things really are if they're already openly admitting the future looks less than stellar.

Blogger James Dixon February 24, 2020 10:07 AM  

> The Trumpslide is going to be epic!

With the impeachment fiasco, people had been forced to relearn the lesson they should have learned fully from Obamacare. There are no moderate Democrats at the federal level, and anyone who claims they will be one is lying.

Primary example? See Joe Manchin.

Now with every Dem Presidential candidate being fully anti gun, anti carbon, pro illegal immigration, pro full federal control of health care, pro 70%+ tax rates, etc; I expect a full abandonment of the Democrats in all red and purple areas. Republicans should take the House handily and may pick up a few more Senate seats.

Even with that the RINO's will likely maintain full control of the Republican party, so don't except them to fully back Trump's agenda any time soon.

Blogger James Dixon February 24, 2020 10:10 AM  

I should add that the only reason the party doesn't like Bernie is that he's honest about being a commie. They have the same agenda he does, but they know they have to lie about it to get elected, and Bernie let's the cat out of the bag.

Blogger tuberman February 24, 2020 10:14 AM  

Just stop or at least slow down the DEM cheating.That will work.

Blogger SciVo February 24, 2020 10:14 AM  

Republicans were going to retake the House anyway, since Democrats only got it due to a wave of cucks distancing themselves from the God-Emperor or even retiring. And then after getting such a gift, they got nothing done except a shampeachment.

The establishment left is scared of having Bernie as their candidate for all the wrong reasons. The other candidates are no less radical to American sensibilities. What they should really be scared of is having an excuse to avoid facing the truth about why they lost the House.

Blogger Solon February 24, 2020 10:18 AM  

Wait, Sanders, who is an open full-blown communist, is "politically independent?"

What do those words even mean anymore?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 24, 2020 10:21 AM  

An interesting thing about people, they are able to move faster in response to an action than they are able to move in taking an initial action, even when the action and response are the exact same type of action. In addition, people who are otherwise indistinguishable from lunatics will often find bizarre ways to dance right along the edge of death without quite toppling over it.

In this case that would tell you that most of the Dems see the financial powerbrokers as someone who can determine whether they live or die. It was always the case that many people would dance to the free money tune, be it universal basic income, or something further toward the base of the free money tree, like promises of money surreptitiously stolen from all of that Mammon's faithful via inflation.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 24, 2020 10:26 AM  

Can the conservatives and Cucklicans save the Democratic party from being labeled the Commie authoritarian party, probably, though if a Cucklican like McSalley comes out like that there might be hope.

Blogger VFM Bear February 24, 2020 10:27 AM  

Solon wrote:Wait, Sanders, who is an open full-blown communist, is "politically independent?"

What do those words even mean anymore?


That's just them trying to distance the Bern from the Dems, becaue negative coattails.

He may be the Dem Presidential nominee, but he's actually just an independent and not related to your Dem Congcritter or Senaduhr who you should still vote for because reasons.

Blogger Jeroth February 24, 2020 10:33 AM  

I don't see Trump losing to a decrepit old man who just had a heart attack, but it's slightly alarming how much this mirrors the "Trump has no chance" narrative. Having the political establishment against you isn't a bad thing. There is already an "MSNBC Meltdown" montage going around social media where, among other things, James Carville congratulates Putin on giving Bernie the nomination, and Chris Matthews compares his victory to Hitler's invasion of France.

Blogger CarpeOro February 24, 2020 10:34 AM  

Letting Sanders run in the Democratic primaries always seemed ridiculous to me. I wondered if he was simply there as a prop to make others seem more like centrist candidates. That or an attempt to head off any attempts at leftwing third party runs. Putting a gun to their own head didn't pan out. This isn't Blazing Saddles and they aren't Cleavon Little.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2020 10:36 AM  

Solon wrote:Wait, Sanders, who is an open full-blown communist, is "politically independent?"

What do those words even mean anymore?

Does it mean that neither moiety of the uniparty wants him?

Blogger linesy February 24, 2020 10:41 AM  

Just need an Eagleton type as the VP pick and it's 1972 all over again. How could it possibly go wrong?

Blogger P Glenrothes February 24, 2020 10:49 AM  

The Trumpslide is a given. What can Trump accomplish in his second term that goes beyond more of the same, particularly in the realm of justice?

Blogger kurt9 February 24, 2020 10:53 AM  

Sanders is the 2020 version of McGovern in the 1972 election. Nixon, who wasn't actually that popular to begin with, won every state except for MA (McGovern's state). I expect a similar blowout this time. Corona-chan will help. Even most liberal voters recognize that, on average. Republicans are more competent than Democrats. That's why in democrat state, political positions such as insurance commissioners and the like, are often Republicans.

Blogger roundeye February 24, 2020 11:00 AM  

If Sanders gets the most delegates he won't make it to the convention. It will make Epstein's death seem subtle.

Blogger Stilicho February 24, 2020 11:10 AM  

"I should add that the only reason the party doesn't like Bernie is that he's honest about being a commie. They have the same agenda he does, but they know they have to lie about it to get elected, and Bernie let's the cat out of the bag."

Exactly. For 40 years democrats have been campaigning as Reagan/Reagan-lite conservatives in general elections while their base was fully aware this was a deception for fooling the rubes. The media has been mostly complicit.

Now, the donk base, bernie, and the media are tired of the need for this deception (which thye thought was over once the elected Obama) and insist on letting their freak flags fly openly. Smarter donk scum understand that they can't be honest yet. Others are already looking to infiltrate and take over the GOP (like the Tories) as white democrats flee to the GOP en masse. Even the never trump neo trotskyites will try to come back at some point (Gay Benson already has... to be welcomed with open arms by the usual cucks like Hugh Hewitt).

"Are you now or have you ever been a democrat" must be the litmus test for any GOP leadership position.

Blogger Barbarossa February 24, 2020 11:16 AM  

@16 You're thinking of Mondale in 1984 with Minnesota. McGovern was from South Dakota and didn't even carry his own state.

Blogger Akulkis February 24, 2020 11:21 AM  

Bernie and the are Bolsheviks (big changes, fast),the Dems are Mensheviks (little changes, gradually).

The funny part, though, is Bern8e isn't a globalist Marxist like the rest of the DSA. He's a Nationalist Socialist (shut down the border trafficking, bring industry back home, send a lot of foreign workers home), making Bernie essentially a... well... Jewish Nazi. [but without the spiffy uniforms].

Blogger Didas Kalos February 24, 2020 11:22 AM  

It will make Epstein’s death look like a real suicide?

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz February 24, 2020 11:22 AM  

@Solon
Sanders is the independent communist because not even NKorea wants this level of stupid.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 24, 2020 11:23 AM  

I'm not worried about Bernie winning.

What does bother me is that Communism is now mainstream.

It won't be Bernie this time but unless things change it will be someone else eventually.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2020 11:24 AM  

P Glenrothes wrote:What can Trump accomplish in his second term that goes beyond more of the same, particularly in the realm of justice?
He could accomplish justice. Haven't seen much of that yet. He's certainly done a lot, but I'm not tired of winning yet.

Blogger Akulkis February 24, 2020 11:26 AM  

Bernie is an (I) rather than a (D) because he doesn't pay due$ to the Democratic Party

They could have solved all of the Bernie issue just by pointing. out that he isn't a party member. Their knee-jerk hyper-inclusivity (as long as someone is for abortion) is biting them in the rear end.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 24, 2020 11:39 AM  

The problem the Dems have handed themselves is in getting rid of the "winner take all" state primaries.

Because of that the math favors whoever leads in the primaries first. Whoever that first leader is, just keeps collecting delegates.

And, the Iowa Caucus system favors the unemployed, the childless, students, assistant professors and those in general who have both a lot of passion for a candidate and a lot of time on their hands.

In short, it favored Bernie.

Blogger map February 24, 2020 11:44 AM  

Akulkis wrote:Bernie and the are Bolsheviks (big changes, fast),the Dems are Mensheviks (little changes, gradually).

The funny part, though, is Bern8e isn't a globalist Marxist like the rest of the DSA. He's a Nationalist Socialist (shut down the border trafficking, bring industry back home, send a lot of foreign workers home), making Bernie essentially a... well... Jewish Nazi. [but without the spiffy uniforms].


Where did you get this idea? He wants healthcare for illegals and full open borders...basically, a further invasion of the United States.

Blogger Up from the pond February 24, 2020 11:46 AM  

The Democrat Party is following the advice "become who you are."

In its case, that's the party of bloody Bolsheviki.

Even Carville said the other day: "We have lost our damn minds."

Nah, Jim. You guys never had any to begin with.

Blogger Akulkis February 24, 2020 11:47 AM  

My friend's millenial step-son was very pro-Communist.

I inadvertently had a part in that. When he wad in high school, I gave him a copy of Marx's Communist Manifesto so je could read the craziness from the horse's mouth, so to speak, and he concluded that it's all a really good idea.

Now that he's out of college, has loans for both a BA in Philosophy and an MA in English, and has way 5oo much of a meager paycheck taken in taxes, and realizing that with a master's degree, he'll never be considered to be the kind of person who is "trapped in low wage jobs" and so he'll never see the tax bite grow smaller with socialism, he's starting to come around to seeing that Marx's economics don't have a hope of actually working.
He no longer trots out the "well, those other countries never really tried reak Communism" and "welk, it's never been tried with the RIGHT people" argument any more. Especially after I pointed out that "the right people" will be exclusively Harvard, Yale, Columbia and Brown alumni.

Blogger Akulkis February 24, 2020 11:50 AM  

Big word here is "yet" there would never be any justice with all of the Bush/Clinton/Obama judges on all if the benches.

Now that the judicial foundation has been built, and 2000+ Obama/Bush DOJ types (prosecutors and FBI types) all signed a letter of 5esignation, now the scaffolds can be erected.

Blogger James Dixon February 24, 2020 11:51 AM  

> Bern8e isn't a globalist Marxist like the rest of the DSA. He's a Nationalist Socialist (shut down the border trafficking, bring industry back home, send a lot of foreign workers home

He used to be. He's gone full open borders now.

Blogger Balkan Yankee February 24, 2020 11:54 AM  

Mark Kelly will support Bernie Sanders, except when he won't.

Blogger Oswald February 24, 2020 12:00 PM  

It is looking more and more like Bernie is the one. To bad, I had so many jokes and names lined up for Little Pete. Now, we need to focus on some good one liners for Bernie. How about?

Russia just rolled out a new line of internet bots called Bernie bots.

Or maybe Bernie plans on paying for his health care plan buy selling Alaska back to Russia.

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis February 24, 2020 12:08 PM  

District of Columbia will provide Sanders 3 electoral votes. DC has never gone to a Republican.

Blogger crypto.fashion February 24, 2020 12:09 PM  

Still not tired of winning!

Blogger Silent Draco February 24, 2020 12:10 PM  

MA was delivered for his VP, Sargent Shriver, as a gift from his wife Eunice KENNEDY Shriver's family.

Anonymous Anonymous February 24, 2020 12:15 PM  

Jeroth wrote:I don't see Trump losing to a decrepit old man who just had a heart attack, but it's slightly alarming how much this mirrors the "Trump has no chance" narrative. Having the political establishment against you isn't a bad thing.

I wonder about this, too. A Bernie nomination will be a good measure of where the American people, or rather the inhabitants of the USA, are. I hope everyone predicting the Trumpslide is right, but I wouldn't say Sanders has no chance against Trump. In the meantime, get ready to get out the vote.

Blogger Jack Amok February 24, 2020 12:17 PM  

It won't be Bernie this time but unless things change it will be someone else eventually.

It's been obvious to me for some time that most of the Left isn't compatible with our notion of democracy because they don't respect any limits on power and don't believe in sharing it. I don't know if the impeachment antics and deep state shenanigans are woken up others or not, but at some point, a whole bunch of people need to be told they're not welcome in our political system since they don't actually respect it.

They're in breech of contract, but the remedies are unpleasant.

Anonymous Anonymous February 24, 2020 12:18 PM  

P Glenrothes wrote:The Trumpslide is a given. What can Trump accomplish in his second term that goes beyond more of the same, particularly in the realm of justice?

I'll be quite pleased with more of the same. Net migration has trended down since he took office. Keep that trend going and we've got net emigration, which may the only thing that can keep America together.

Blogger Stilicho February 24, 2020 12:35 PM  

"What does bother me is that Communism is now mainstream."

It has been mainstream since the Wobblies. It is now about to become the de jure position of the DNC rather than the de facto position. It is a time for choosing, even on the left. The media already chose, but still support their remaining crypto-commie brethren.

Blogger Stilicho February 24, 2020 12:39 PM  

Dont count the Bernie chickens before they've hatched. mini Mike will be on the ballot on super tuesday and that will go a long way toward helping him engineer a brokered convention if he can buy a decent showing. Unless Bernie wins a majority of delgates, he will will be screwed at the con vention. If he does win a majority, unfortunately, his heart will fail or not allow him to run in the general. Sad.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 24, 2020 12:40 PM  

Bernie would be to Trump what Mondale was to Reagan.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2020 12:41 PM  

Ledford Ledford wrote:I'll be quite pleased with more of the same. Net migration has trended down since he took office.
Definitely need more of the same.

Blogger VFM Bear February 24, 2020 12:43 PM  

I predict Corona-chan will save the Dem establishment.

By the time the convention rolls around she'll be present enough in the U.S. to justify all kinds of restrictions on travel and attendance, and enable all the required shenanigans to occur behind closed doors.

Blogger LAZ February 24, 2020 12:44 PM  

"The Trumpslide is a given. What can Trump accomplish in his second term that goes beyond more of the same, particularly in the realm of justice?"

He replaced half the SCOTUS, 13 of 16 judges in the 9th circuit and 20% in the other appellate courts. He's well on his say to replacing most if not all of them. Once that's done the traitors can be prosecuted without fear of a (((judge))) letting them off.

Blogger LAZ February 24, 2020 12:46 PM  

"Keep that trend going and we've got net emigration, which may the only thing that can keep America together."

That's a pipe dream. 150M (((people))) in this country immigrated in the last 60 years. That's half the population.

Blogger Balkan Yankee February 24, 2020 12:51 PM  

Republicans smell blood: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/impeachment-drives-1-000-gop-candidates-to-run-for-house

And now it's Bernie turn to chum the waters political.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2020 1:21 PM  

LAZ wrote:He replaced half the SCOTUS, 13 of 16 judges in the 9th circuit and 20% in the other appellate courts. He's well on his say to replacing most if not all of them. Once that's done the traitors can be prosecuted without fear of a (((judge))) letting them off.
This is a generation's worth of winning, if they aren't in the mold of previous GOP appointees, like Roberts. Are there really 200+ lawyers in the US who aren't closet commies or open cucks?

Blogger Zastavnik Džemo February 24, 2020 1:26 PM  

A jewish millionaire selling communism historically ends in christian farmers getting gulag and Holodomor.
Holodomor was in 1933, and if the same shit happens again 100 years later VD made a spot on prediction of 2033.

Blogger Pete February 24, 2020 1:39 PM  

The misguided desire for people who want "civility" and "moderation" in politics after 50-plus years of the left mischaracterizing "bipartisianship" as Republicans needing to give in to all the leftist policy goals simply stupifies me. Add to that the repeated blatant betrayals by the GOPe as they cave on every marxist policy despite strident campaign promises to "conserve" American values, and it should surprise no one that Americans are supporting Trump.

The dems are only annoyed with Bernie because he has taken the mask off the face of the nightmare of leftist goals before the masses have been sufficiently sedated to prevent recognition of the coming tyranny.

Pragmatically, any vote for any dem, socialist, or RINO is placing the chains of slavery upon oneself, albeit a bit slower than directly handcuffing oneself

Blogger Stilicho February 24, 2020 1:53 PM  

"It's been obvious to me for some time that most of the Left isn't compatible with our notion of democracy because they don't respect any limits on power and don't believe in sharing it."

They participate in elections. Ecause they want someone else to do their fighting for them (via apparatus of govt-police, military, etc). So far, govt has been somewhat willing to do so when the commies have nominal control. The commies fear boiling the frog too quickly and fear armed patriots on a. Visceral level, so they' ve been satisfied with the slow march so far. They are losing that patience because they see Trump and American patriotism/nationalism as them losing ground instead of just treading water (under a cuckservati ve administration). So, after the Trumpslide, they will increase their efforts to subvert local govt and will start engaging in direct action more often. The more radical elements think they can become a Viet Minh or at least a Sinn Fein/IRA.

Blogger tuberman February 24, 2020 1:56 PM  

"Definitely need more of the same."

Plus many extras. I figure after building up manufacturing and excavation, he can start to go further on Legal Immigration, as he's already enforcing rules about Legal Immigrants getting welfare. This will go much further after 2020. STEM jobs for Americans will come after main street economy is well along to replacing parasite economy.

Blogger pyrrhus February 24, 2020 1:59 PM  

We visited Southern CA last month...The only stickers or signs we saw in yards or autos were for Bernie, not one other candidate got a mention...Meanwhile, two black left drivers separately brought up Trump in conversation, indicating they favored him now.

Blogger tuberman February 24, 2020 2:16 PM  

"...s them losing ground instead of just treading water (under a cuckservati ve administration). "

Have to disagree here, as they make different types of gains with cuck administrations, merely not as obvious. BUSH 41 & 43 were full on Globalist DS posing to be on the Right, and many Senate and Congress were, and still are today, all-in pretenders. But you knew that. This goes beyond just cucks, as they were/are hired Washington General Clowns.

Blogger CJ February 24, 2020 2:20 PM  

#47 Longtime Lurker that's great news about 1,000 Republican candidates for the House. I only wish they could find a better Senate candidate than McSally.

Blogger Silly but True February 24, 2020 2:31 PM  

So Mark Kelly suggests that Dems need Sanders like they need a hole in their heads?

Blogger Akulkis February 24, 2020 3:32 PM  

@46. LAZ

Only there's only about 3M (((people))) in the U.S.
The 150M are just turd-worlders whose only contributions are providing the on-camera talent for World Star Hip-Hop videos.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel February 24, 2020 3:40 PM  

@VD

"The Trumpslide is going to be epic!"

From your lips to God's ears.

Still, I'm going to make damn sure I encourage (and take if necessary) my family and friends to vote. If I have to crawl over broken glass on my bare hands and knees, I'm getting to the polls.

I'm going to learn from that cocksure certitude of the Clinton campaign and run scared. I will be confident, but not complacent.

Moreover, I don't merely want whatever moral cretin the left serves up defeated, I want them demolished. Otherwise we'll stupid narratives about "mandates", "narrow victory" and "lame duck".

I still think Arizona, Georgia and Florida 2018 were the test flights of a massive national effort at vote fraud.

People generally don't understand that not only does the electoral college remind us the Presidency is of "The United States", not "The American People", its true genius is its ability to mitigate ballot stuffing schemes.

States having fixed representation means that the normal fraud that goes on in places like Chicago and Philadelphia-can only swing that state.

With more states alienating their citizens representation to the national individual vote, the left is moving to reduce power of the electoral colleges fraud firewall.

I want to see Trump crush it in the national individual vote tally, so that Virginia-as the latest state to disenfranchise its citizens-with its swamp employed residents see their state go red, even if they as a state vote Dem.

@55

The influence of McStain lives on. She lost one election she was supposed to win, so naturally they put her up again.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2020 3:53 PM  

@47, Republican candidates like Trump? Or Republican candidates like McStain?

Blogger Akulkis February 24, 2020 4:20 PM  

@map

Bernie must have changed his position on that from 6 months ago which was the same as in 2015. I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention lately.

Blogger eldiabloloco February 24, 2020 5:29 PM  

Enjoy the Trumpslide. But never underestimate the abilities of the other generic Republican cuckidates to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Would not be the first time.

Blogger Laconic February 24, 2020 5:44 PM  

Do you think the civil war will begin with trumpslide 2020

Blogger SciVo February 24, 2020 6:20 PM  

@Laconic:

Do you think the civil war will begin with trumpslide 2020

No.

Blogger Retrenched February 24, 2020 6:37 PM  

There will be no replay of '72 or '84. Democrats could run Epstein's corpse and get 190-200 EVs with modern demographics. But I still think Trump clears 270 without breaking a sweat.

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 24, 2020 8:26 PM  

Having the political establishment against you isn't a bad thing.

Yes it is. Trump overcame it, but he would have gotten more votes if they'd simply played fair and the media had reported honestly. While there were some people who voted Trump just to poke the establishment in the eye, there were also a lot of mainstream moderate/conservative Republicans who refused to support him because they kept hearing that "everyone" was against him. Some of them probably bit the bullet and voted for him anyway, but others went full NeverTrump retard and voted for McMuffin or even Clinton.

Bernie may benefit from a bit of "he's so independent" talk, but he absolutely has to have the full backing of the media and the whole corporate/financial/academic establishment to have a chance, just like any Democrat. It takes a full-court propaganda press now to convince half the voters the Democrats aren't dangerous to themselves and others.

Blogger Stilicho February 24, 2020 9:50 PM  

@tuberman: I dont disagree with you abiut cuckservatives advancing the leftis/globalist agenda. I was merely explaining how the leftists view the cucks.

Blogger Rough Carrigan February 24, 2020 11:20 PM  

#65, but 4 more years of blatant DNC advocacy in the media has diminished the force of that advocacy.

Blogger wreckage February 25, 2020 5:48 AM  

For years Conservatives have allowed themselves to be trapped in the rhetorical position versus socialism of "Yes the other guys are morally right, but please go slower, because I love money."

Now we get to see the Dems in the same position. Deeeeelicious.

Blogger CM February 25, 2020 7:30 AM  

For 40 years democrats have been campaigning as Reagan/Reagan-lite conservatives in general elections while their base was fully aware this was a deception for fooling the rubes. The media has been mostly complicit.

That's interesting. I saw it the exact opposite... but maybe I was seeing less vote politics and more the subversion in schools, colleges, and entertainment.

It really feels like on some level the Democrats encourage socialist ideals in their ranks. The millenials certainly came out of the Democrat echo chamber as perfect little commies.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 25, 2020 11:53 AM  

wreckage wrote:For years Conservatives have allowed themselves to be trapped in the rhetorical position versus socialism of "Yes the other guys are morally right, but please go slower, because I love money."
I always called the GOP conservatards the ``me too but less'' party. The Left would propose some Lefty scheme, and the cucks would thunder ``That's immoral, that's disastrous ... and we'll meet you half way.''

Losing has been very, very good to the GOP.

Blogger TwoDogs February 26, 2020 12:03 AM  

Just remember, this is a lady who once hosed down human beings from the air with a 30mm cannon. Go Martha !

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