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Thursday, February 20, 2020

Never trust anyone over 30

Captain Capitalism addresses the Baby Boomers and how they produced the Millennials:
The Millennials didn’t grow up in a vacuum.  They weren’t born in the cabbage patch, sprouted legs one day, and then “POOF,” 22 years later found themselves $120K in debt with a Master’s degree in Diversity and Inclusion.  Like everyone else they were a product of their environment.  And a huge part of that environment, if not the most influential part, was the elders who would raise them.  Parents, teachers, professors, guidance counselors, therapists, bosses, even politicians and media personalities would directly and indirectly wield incredible, if not total influence over the Millennials and would be the single most determining variable in how the Millennials would turn out.

This is the way it has always been throughout human history because there’s no other way for it to be.  Younger generations have to be raised by older generations.  But the Millennials were going to be raised by a very unique generation of elders.  A generation of elders that the world had never seen before in terms of its wealth, stability, pampering, and privilege.  Nor had the world seen such an arrogant, self-important, completely delusional, and completely wrong generation before. And it was this generation that was going to prepare the Millennials for the real world - the Baby Boomers.

What I absolutely love about the Baby Boomers, what I find so incredibly rich is how they were the generation that coined the phrase “Never trust anybody over 30.”  And you need to really break down this statement to appreciate how hypocritical, delusional, arrogant, and simply wrong that statement is and therefore how wrong the Baby Boomers are.

First, Boomers said this when they were young.  Not only stupid, but inexperienced and young.  They were a bunch of teenage, 20 something know-nothings, who never worked a job, had yet to start families, draft-dodged a war, but somehow they thought they knew better than their elders and the culminated eons of human history.  Not only is this against common sense, it’s the epitome of hubris and arrogance.  Many of them hadn’t even gone to college to have a political religion installed in them so they’d parrot such outlandish stupidity.  They were just that naturally stupid and arrogant on their own!
It's remotely possible that the Baby Boomers aren't the worse generation in human history. But they certainly did manage to destroy what was once the wealthiest, freest, most powerful nation on Earth. It wasn't entirely their fault; they did not plant the seeds of that destruction. But instead of weeding the garden of those evil shoots, they enthusiastically watered them.

And that is why future generations that never even knew them will hate them. They will not hate the Boomers for the same reasons that Gen-X and Gen-Z hate them, but they will hate them all the same.

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Blogger Quicksilver February 20, 2020 5:21 AM  

Collective hatred of any group is quite pointless

Blogger fredulent February 20, 2020 5:24 AM  

No mention of the Vietnam War.

Blogger FrankNorman February 20, 2020 5:31 AM  

I believe the problem can be summed up as:

Dear Future Generations
We had a great party, to which you were not invited. But we expect you to pay the bills.
Signed:
The Boomers.


Blogger Jack February 20, 2020 5:32 AM  

God took away the riches of true religion, culture, and civilisation, simply because we had taken them entirely for granted. But that was going on for several generations (arguably centuries), leading up to the 1960s. The great thing about the current and upcoming generations, is that we now have the opportunity to wake up to how impoverished and miserable we've become spiritually, morally, and culturally, which means being able to reclaim our heritage without taking it for granted anymore, but appreciating it anew with profound gratitude. This is God's way. He gives people the freedom to make their own mistakes, acknowledge their fault, and repent. The Old Testament is a cycle of the Jews being saved by God, being grateful, then taking Him for granted, falling into misery, repenting, and being saved again. The Baby Boomers shouldn't be vilified too much, because they were inheriting the tradition (or counter-tradition) of materialism and liberalism that had been growing up for centuries. At least they can show us how wretched we become when we turn away from the truth, which is what we've all done to some extent. ~60 years ago the West abandoned its by then merely nominal form of Christianity, and the speed of collapse was astonishing. It's good for us to learn our lesson!

Blogger Storm Rhode February 20, 2020 5:42 AM  

Gen-x raised the millennials too. The Boomers lived their lives according to the propaganda they were inundated with. They knew nothing else. We have knowledge of what's really going on. It's up to us to stop whining and fix things. Complaining and blaming is pointless at this point.

Blogger Scuzzaman February 20, 2020 5:59 AM  

Jack

There’s a difference between a Christian doing evil and a person or generation teaching that evil is good.

God didn’t take anything from the boomers. He gave them EVERYTHING.

They threw it away.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:02 AM  

Gen-X's influence on the millenials has been negligible.

We have had neither the numbers, nor the power, as even to this day, the Boomers refuse to hand over the reins of control unless they are thoroughly BEATEN into letting go.

No generation in U.S. history has ruled for as long (even before the boomers were eligible to become senators, they already had undue influence on WHICH WW2 & Silent generations politicians would even be allowed into office. Specifically, the Boomers have preferred politicians who will spend money like drunken sailors on one miserable failure of a social spending program after another. All because they view the business of government as being an omni-charity rather than, say, actual charities.

Blogger Regan F February 20, 2020 6:02 AM  

There are some good boomers. They will be appreciated by their families and all that, but for the most part, I mean, purge day will be here eventually.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 20, 2020 6:03 AM  

Patricide is really the spirit of our age. "Forget the past. Kill it if you have to." The Left does it. They want to kill off all memory of our heritage and our ancestors. And the pissed off Right does it, with Boomer hate. Now, I do see that the Boomers have a very SIGNIFICANT role in destroying everything for my children and their children. But so does their parents, as well as theirs.

This is a new thought for me. Usually I enjoy these Boomer threads without reservation. But lately, I've been wondering if the Left's hatred for their progenitors---as well as our frustration with the Boomers---are somehow two sides of the same coin.

I know this is navel-gazing psychoanalysis on my part, but it's a question I haven't heard yet.

Blogger Section 8A February 20, 2020 6:05 AM  

What bothers me the most is that the small group of people who have no national allegiance, save one, were able to mold and shape the thoughts of the "strong and independent" boomers, who brag about 'fighting the power' all the time. Really?

For a group of people who protested everything, they were cowed and scared to say anything even as all the positives of what once was a reasonably free country was taken away. Better not to be called a bad name than actually push back against the real evil.

The first chapter of "Iron Curtain Over America" by John Beaty covers it well. People knew. The book, and others like it sold well. But the boomers couldn't be bothered. Better to go to San Fran and have some 'free love' than do anything about it.

Blogger Rek. February 20, 2020 6:07 AM  

So profound. Wise beyond your years.

Blogger Boaty Bear February 20, 2020 6:11 AM  

Every Boomer, and I mean EVERY Boomer in my Family, is an odious vile disgrace of a human being.

Fwiw, which is not as much as what they're worth.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:11 AM  

"Gen-x raised the millennials too. The Boomers lived their lives according to the propaganda they were inundated with. They knew nothing else."

Oh, bullshit. Even as a Gen-X'er, it was PAINFULLY obvious that the Boomers were actively and energetically rebelling against the sane ways and guidance of the generations immediately preceding them. By the time the Boomers were born, even the Flappers of the 1920's had been forced out (by the depression and then WW2) of their debauchery.

Obvious propaganda is obvious.

Not only that, but the Boomers WERE raised in churches, and taught the difference between truths and attractive lies.

They willingly went for the attractive lies. They were WARNED that those lies were attractive lies. Their response to every single such warning: "Nyah, nyah! Slippery Slope! Not true!" And yet every single one of those "slippery slope fallacies" has proven to be 100% accurate, and if anything, understated.

Quit making excuses for these people who are not just assholes, they are maniacal assholes, and they ENJOY screwing everybody outside of their age cohort. If they didn't ENJOY it, millenials wouldn't have been pushed out of typical high-school first-jobs by illegals due to being hired by... boomer employment policies, and boomer congresses who have refused (and continue to refuse) to even recognize the concept of a southern border.

I was a mere 4 years old when I realized the Boomers were absolutely destructive. I didn't have a name for them, but it was painfully obvious just by merely observing their behavior.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:19 AM  

"But lately, I've been wondering if the Left's hatred for their progenitors---as well as our frustration with the Boomers---are somehow two sides of the same coin"

No.

The left's hatred for their progenitors has ALWAYS existed.

The Boomers are the generation STUPID enough to adopt it as a way of life. Because in their minds, "Leave it to Beaver," is a documentary series about the horrors of living in a civilized society with low crime rates, teachers who teach worthwhile subjects and expect students to pay attention in class, and a complete lack of people rioting for the sake of rioting and nothing more.

Blogger Lazarus February 20, 2020 6:26 AM  

Like everyone else they were a product of their environment.

These were their influences: the “Silent Generation” is a bit of a misnomer. In fact, many revolutionary leaders in the civil rights movement came from this group, along with a wide assortment of artists and writers who fundamentally changed the arts in America. The Beat Poets, for example, were members, as were Martin Luther King, Gloria Steinem, and many other notable agitators for change in the 20th century.

Coiner of the phrase? Jack (((Weinberger))), key tactition of the Berkely Free Speech MOvement.

Infogalactic says:
Weinberg is the person who coined the saying "Don't trust anyone over 30".[21][22] The saying exists in several variants, such as "Never trust anybody over 30". .... In November 1964, Weinberg was interviewed by a reporter[23] for the San Francisco Chronicle working on a story about the Free Speech Movement. ...
"I was being interviewed by a newspaper reporter, and he was making me very angry. It seemed to me his questions were implying that we were being directed behind the scenes by Communists or some other sinister group. I told him we had a saying in the movement that we don't trust anybody over 30. It was a way of telling the guy to back off, that nobody was pulling our strings."


"Never trust anyone over 30" was the weaponized version promoted by the MSM.

Be that as it may, Boomerism has proven to be the main product of a cautionary tale involving the Tavistock Institute, Big Pharmacopia, Social engineering, and the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.

Blogger Lazarus February 20, 2020 6:27 AM  

Akulkis wrote:Not only that, but the Boomers WERE raised in churches, and taught the difference between truths and attractive lies.

They willingly went for the attractive lies.


They "took the ticket" as BB would say.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei February 20, 2020 6:31 AM  

Collective hatred of any group is quite pointless

Communists
Swamp critters
SJWs

That's three groups worthy of all the hate we can muster, just off the top of my head. Don't be a bowtie polisher.

Blogger Sargent.matrim February 20, 2020 6:35 AM  

Is their any generation in history that wasn't corrupted by extreme wealth and opulence?

I think of Solomon's degradation. How the Romans conquests and wealth destroyed their society. The Greeks degradation in their wealth is famous.

One things humans handle poorly is wealth, ease and lack of struggle.

The Boomers were no different.

Blogger sammibandit February 20, 2020 6:39 AM  

Re: Gen X
If you were lucky enough to have had a Gen X cousin babysitter or friends who had Gen X nannies then you'd have know what great people they are as a millennial. Yes the influence wasn't big in quantity but what it was for quality was amazing. It was cool to have an authority figure who actually cared. Plus, Gen X is so effortlessly cool.

Boomers such as they are had no problem firing native Gen X nannies and hiring immigrant nannies. I legit think the replacement of so many nannies resulted in one of my friends later developing bulimia. Could never get too attached to a nanny, no.

Blogger Brett baker February 20, 2020 6:40 AM  

draft dodging. And a lot of those boomers were all for Iraq 2.0.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei February 20, 2020 6:40 AM  

Possibly the worst aspect of the boomers manifests itself in most of the boomers in my family: all gung-ho for "progressive" ideas, but really squishy on what those ideas actually entail, e.g. most are visibly revulsed when presented with the real substance of homosexual activity, and their profound discomfort around any non-Talented Tenth minority is absolutely hilarious.

Blogger Lazarus February 20, 2020 6:42 AM  

sammibandit wrote:Boomers such as they are had no problem firing native Gen X nannies and hiring immigrant nannies.

Being wealthy enough to afford nannies is a problem in itself.

Blogger ZhukovG February 20, 2020 6:50 AM  

A a member of GenX, I recognize that my generation has many faults and has made many mistakes. We own these and I will do what I can to rectify them. I will do what I can to protect the younger generations from the mistakes my generation and previous generations made.

But Boomers... The slightest suggestion that they were flawed and, like clockwork, the Boomer Defense Brigade shows up. Just stop it. You were handed a Golden Age and you consumed it like locusts. Sure, maybe your parents shouldn't have spoiled you, but now, how about less excuses and use what you've got left to help us fix things for the kids coming up.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums February 20, 2020 7:00 AM  

I highly recommend the documentary "Wild Wild Country". Long story short: baby boomers got into a cult and built a town on their own in the desert. The sheer amount of resources used on building their little breakaway civilizations was mind boggling. A few years later the cult fell pretty much out of fashion and they all just left.

A local of the county said something poignant about them: "They struck me as the sort of people who were educated far beyond their ability to comprehend."

Blogger sammibandit February 20, 2020 7:00 AM  

Being wealthy enough to afford nannies is a problem in itself.

Well said. Once the first nanny was hired it was a foregone conclusion that the work would continue to be outsourced.

That leads me to a funny thought. Gen X is the latchkey kid generation. Millennials cannot claim that even though we all knew what a necklace with a house key on it meant. It must be strange being from the first abandoned generation in living memory and having helped raise the next one as a contractor.

For all the union boosting boomers do they really never grieve scabbing on raising their own kids.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2020 7:00 AM  

@Laramie Hirsch:

This is a new thought for me. Usually I enjoy these Boomer threads without reservation. But lately, I've been wondering if the Left's hatred for their progenitors---as well as our frustration with the Boomers---are somehow two sides of the same coin.

No. As an analogy, we might like to get rid of hostile indoctrinators masquerading as college professors, but we would never burn any books; we would rather have Derrida and Foucalt available to point to as bad.

But it isn't even quite the same, because my dad has been writing short stories of vignettes from his life; and if he doesn't finish it, then I will do my best Christopher Tolkien and edit and arrange it. Because I love him personally, and also I want future generations to know, this is how it was. This was their truth.

The left just wants to tear down all the statues and burn all the books and start from Year Zero so that they can create from scratch the perfect Soviet Man.

Blogger JamesB.BKK February 20, 2020 7:02 AM  

Many boomers were raised on the Dr. Spock (not the Roddenberry character) child rearing rubbish (published first in 1946) by people from generations preceding them. Seeds planted indeed. There are also reportedly at least two distinct classes of boomers - the earlies and the lates - having fundamental differences. Characters mentioned earlies all?

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 20, 2020 7:09 AM  

The word I associate boomerism with is "capitulation". The boomers could have fought evil, but that would have gotten in the way of self indulgence. Every boomer you see sitting atop a pile of wealth and toys did so out of going along with an evil system. That was the choice they made.

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 20, 2020 7:16 AM  

Collective hatred of any group is quite pointless

Typical Boomer airy-sounding bullshit. Collective hatred, when directed at something hate-worthy, brings people together. Hating the Boomers gives X, Y, and Z common ground on which we can teach and learn from each other and work toward something better than the dystopia that Boomer delusions destined us for.

Blogger Ronius_Maximus February 20, 2020 7:30 AM  

First guy's right. You're wrong. Unity based on hate of Boomers is no different than unity based on saving the planet. There is one true unity and that is in Christ.

Blogger McChuck February 20, 2020 7:30 AM  

"We are the children of children, and we live as we are shown."

The Boomers were destroyed by the psychological nonsense of Freud, Jung, Kinsey, and especially Spock, who cannot be sufficiently damned.

Blogger Jay Will February 20, 2020 7:31 AM  

Highly intelligent boomers like John Cleese, who moans at London not being London any more, when he and others like him spent all of their career sticking two fingers up to authority and discipline. He rejoiced in mocking this authority while offering nothing to replace it.

British TV for maybe fifty years mocks the very authority, discipline, and control of emotions that our societies were built on. A commoner could look up to a Royal and see this, you can see it now in Kate Middleton, that sort of class is what you should aim at.

I can see that the evil elites are not all to blame, but they have weaponized evil like nobody before to drag people down. Most people are clueless to it all, so when higher level people abandon you your in trouble, because if most people are idiots then most people left to their own devices will return to the ape netherworld, and never have any idea that it happened let alone why.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2020 7:32 AM  

@sammibandit:

Plus, Gen X is so effortlessly cool.

It is a Morisettean irony that while Boomers would've killed for that accolade, narcissists begat cynics who are more likely to suspect that you're just blowing smoke up our butt.

Ok, Millennial. Settle down.

Blogger Stilicho February 20, 2020 7:36 AM  

Being mostly ignored by Boomers was a gift to Gen X.

Blogger pyrrhus February 20, 2020 7:37 AM  

Sure, we Boomers wrecked the place, but at least they didn't call us racists......Oh wait....

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 7:39 AM  

Complaining and blaming is pointless at this point.

Complaining is. Blaming is not. Especially not when Boomers are still trying to lecture the younger generations and encourage them to adopt their wicked ways.

Unity based on hate of Boomers is no different than unity based on saving the planet.

Of course it is. God hates the wicked. Therefore, we should, in Christian unity, hate every unrepentant Boomer.

The slightest suggestion that they were flawed and, like clockwork, the Boomer Defense Brigade shows up.

Exactly. They will die and every following generation will piss on their graves. It's important that we remind them of that until they finally shut up once and for all.

Blogger Ciaran February 20, 2020 7:42 AM  

This is a weak argument.

"The Millennials didn’t grow up in a vacuum", asserts the writer, then assumes the Boomers, sui generis, are unique in human history.

All of the many cognitive and moral fallacies favored by the Boomers pre-existed their birth - some by decades, some by millenia. The leaders of the counter culture that inculcated these ideas into their minds when they were naive children were members of older generations. The phenomenon of the Boomers is merely due to the presence of a very large number of children growing up in an era where particularly malicious ideas where being taught by their elders.

"This is the way it has always been throughout human history because there’s no other way for it to be. Younger generations have to be raised by older generations." Then the same applies to the Boomers, obviously.

Narcissism, materialism, feminism, Marxism (economic, political, and cultural), leftism of all sorts, atheism, gnosticism - all of these and more are the vices of the Boomers, yet none were their invention. If you teach children badly, you get a bad society when they become adults. When those children are the largest generation in history, you get a very bad society. There is nothing unique about the Boomers other than their numbers.

Blogger Tom February 20, 2020 7:43 AM  

Evergreen...

Millenials: Wow, this economy sucks!
Xer's: Welcome to the real world.
boomers: You think you're OWED a good job?
Millenials: No, I'm just saying that working two jobs isn't fun.
boomers: NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING!
Xer's: *searches for woodchippers on Amazon.com*
Millenials: Sure, but-
boomers: PAY FOR MY RETIREMENT!
Zer's: What's a woodchipper?
Xer's: *chuckles* Here, let us show you!

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 7:49 AM  

All of the many cognitive and moral fallacies favored by the Boomers pre-existed their birth - some by decades, some by millenia.

And they not only adopted them gleefully while rejecting the wisdom of the ancients and their fore-fathers, they defend them to this day.

The case is not weak. It is conclusive.

Blogger basementhomebrewer February 20, 2020 7:49 AM  

If they didn't ENJOY it, millenials wouldn't have been pushed out of typical high-school first-jobs by illegals due to being hired by... boomer

The illegals were just one of many horrible practices the boomers put in place in the workplace. The dominance of HR is another. When I was in highschool and college I worked a few menial jobs where the president was a guy who started in the loading dock, or the mail room etc. They would say "work hard like him and you could run the company one day". The only problem was, that internally posted jobs with even the slightest amount of responsibility required a college degree. That meant that even the president of the company wasn't qualified to be hired for a middle management job. When these things were pointed out it was met with a laugh, and then an excuse like "HR wants to make sure we hire the best people". No one cared that it was screwing the younger generation, and forcing them into debt.

Blogger Shane Bradman February 20, 2020 7:57 AM  

Shut the fuck up boomer

Blogger Barefoot Bear February 20, 2020 8:02 AM  

Identify the cause of cancer isn't pointless.

Blogger Barefoot Bear February 20, 2020 8:02 AM  

I like where your mind is at.

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 20, 2020 8:05 AM  

Gen-X's influence on the millenials has been negligible.

Yeah, it's laughable to think that Gen-X, the slacker generation (not an unfounded criticism), got into our 20s and immediately started instructing the young.

As you say, even if we'd wanted to, we *still* haven't yanked that much power away from the Boomers. The only Gen-Xers whom the Boomers have allowed to influence the culture are those who stay faithful to Boomerdom, like JJ Abrams and the gang of soft (((nerds))) who direct most big-budget movies now.

Blogger Salt February 20, 2020 8:12 AM  

They were just that naturally stupid and arrogant on their own!

Were they anymore naturally stupid and arrogant than any other preceding generation? The boomer problem did not spring into full bloom, it took time and allowance. At the time of "Hey hey LBJ, how many kids have you killed today" the earliest of the boomers were ~20. Berkley was going strong and Kent State would soon follow.

It's true, the pen is mightier than the sword and the arena for its wielding was open discourse in an open society. Yuri Bezmenov, KGB defector, laid it all out in his lengthy interview with G. Edward Griffin. At the end of WWII there was a vacuum and what followed filled it. In the 1980s the KGB did a study and they found that the goals hoped for were beyond their wildest expectations.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2020 8:15 AM  

@basementhomebrewer:

The only problem was, that internally posted jobs with even the slightest amount of responsibility required a college degree. That meant that even the president of the company wasn't qualified to be hired for a middle management job. . . . No one cared that it was screwing the younger generation, and forcing them into debt.

Yeah, the standard UMC Boomer attitude is "Eff you, I got mine." Which is why we call them and their offspring TWANLOC.

Blogger Uncle John's Band February 20, 2020 8:18 AM  

"These are mutually exclusive thought processes."

Only for a binary thinking moron. The sort mystified by the coexistence of the anecdotal AND the classificatory - gasp- at the same time...

Hint: the latter doesn't require "self-awareness" on the part of the object.

Blogger jkmack February 20, 2020 8:20 AM  

i will not argue with boomers, who wish to gamma sperg rationalizations and excuses. I just smile and note that death will loosen your grasp on the first draft of history, and the second and third, and the future will know well your perfidy and your ability to exceed any other generation in the recorded history of this world at expending that wealth and abundance of liberties, quality of life, and physical wealth which you received, at great cost, for no one's benefit but your own selfish desires, and when the physical wealth was insufficient to satisfy your hungers, you expended the wealth of future generations to such a degree that you destroyed the greatest nation to ever exist on earth.

you will be an insult, a sharp admonition to correct unacceptable behavior, your mention will even be banned in polite society, much as the word nigger is today, because of the utter revulsion the mere mention of your generation catalyzes in the viscera of the listener.

You boomers, who wanted to change the world, and make your mark in the history books, to be known down thru time for your deeds. Congratulations, you will indeed accomplish your goal, you will be known forever, and hated.

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 8:24 AM  

Were they anymore naturally stupid and arrogant than any other preceding generation?

Naturally? That's impossible to say. But they were observably more stupid and arrogant, and threw away more advantages, than any other preceding generation in recorded human history.

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 8:25 AM  

You're banned, Ciaran. You're also a liar. I know far more about Peter Turchin and his work than you do. Go defend Boomers somewhere else.

Blogger JAG February 20, 2020 8:29 AM  

When I was in highschool and college I worked a few menial jobs where the president was a guy who started in the loading dock, or the mail room etc. They would say "work hard like him and you could run the company one day". The only problem was, that internally posted jobs with even the slightest amount of responsibility required a college degree. That meant that even the president of the company wasn't qualified to be hired for a middle management job. When these things were pointed out it was met with a laugh, and then an excuse like "HR wants to make sure we hire the best people". No one cared that it was screwing the younger generation, and forcing them into debt.

They pulled up the ladder once they climbed it. We now have three generations since Boomers pulled that ladder up. None of them are happy about it. It is their biggest crime in my opinion. Even if they repented collectively it is far too late for them to lower that ladder back down.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 20, 2020 8:30 AM  

Boomers' behavior is only new to those ignorant of the cycles of human history. The present is always a product of the past, so every error, no matter how massive, is simply cake baked of prior ingredients.

Humans are, if nothing else, demanding of causes for effects. Where once we had gods of rain, thunder, harvest and war, we now have much more "scientific" ways to assign blame. Some people have good parents. Some succeed despite bad parents. The rest generalize their daddy issues.

What generation did 4th century Romans blame for their predicament? FWIW, I blame the con artists who mostly died off by WW2 (who gave us the 16th & 17th amendments plus the Funny-Money Fed) and money-changers whose campaign contributions bought the US' government for the last 40(?) years.

Boomers' main crime? Believing their own PR. Nothing sets up failure like success, especially when a cargo cult theocracy took control of Western societies 60 years ago.

Just remember when rending your garments during the Two Minutes Hate that DNA is a blueprint, and you are for all practical purposes an amalgam of those ancestors you so loathe. (Laughing about that...)

Blogger Barefoot Bear February 20, 2020 8:32 AM  

That's the reward for taking the ticket. What makes you think Satan has a good retirement plan???

Blogger Barefoot Bear February 20, 2020 8:37 AM  

The utility of the boomer: group A eats poison and tries to hand the poison to groups B,C,D.
Groups B,C,D will NOT like groupd A because they handed them poison, where many in groups B and C have been killed by said poison. These groups will naturally hate the group handing out the poison. Simple.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2020 8:41 AM  

Laramie Hirsch wrote:This is a new thought for me. Usually I enjoy these Boomer threads without reservation. But lately, I've been wondering if the Left's hatred for their progenitors---as well as our frustration with the Boomers---are somehow two sides of the same coin.
The Left hates because they are satanic.

One doesn't hate termites, one exterminates them. The Left, and the Boomers who enabled them, are termites.

If you're hating Boomers, you're doing it wrong.

Blogger The Cooler February 20, 2020 8:44 AM  

Yeah, it's laughable to think that Gen-X, the slacker generation (not an unfounded criticism)

See how this works, Boomers? Introspection; analysis; admission; action?

With very few exceptions within your generational cohort, you cannot do it. Literally cannot do it.

While we're at it, would y'all prefer a memory foam pillow or goose down? Order goes out next week, so vote now and often.

Blogger Scuzzaman February 20, 2020 8:48 AM  

In relative terms the Gen X and millennials don’t have any young to instruct. All the population growth in recent times has been due to immivasion and associated “old-fashioned” reproductive practices.

And this self-destruction was indeed taught them by the boomers, held up as the highest expression of self-actualisation.

(Ugh. Just writing that term makes me want kick (((Maslow)))’s slimy head in.)

But anyway, the average boomer is now in their 60s and yet here they are, still blaming all their shit on mum n dad.

Shut up and die you feckless wasters.

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 8:53 AM  

Boomers' behavior is only new to those ignorant of the cycles of human history.

You're lying, Boomer. But I suppose that borders on the redundant. Every single time you prove our point. You idiot Boomers just can't resist the urge to justify your evil.

Just remember when rending your garments during the Two Minutes Hate that DNA is a blueprint, and you are for all practical purposes an amalgam of those ancestors you so loathe. (Laughing about that...)

You're not laughing about anything. It causes you severe emotional pain just to know that your generation is despised, because it strikes at the very core of your self-value. We are nothing like you. We respect our grandparents and we love our children.

You had open contempt for the generations that preceded you and you still value fancy pants and lollipops more than the generations that succeeded you. Now those generations are returning your contempt in spades. Deal with it.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 20, 2020 8:53 AM  

I find it interesting how I, my deceased father, and my son, are all sort of in between.
Dad was an early Silent, still 15 when WW2 ended, born literally a couple weeks after the 1929 stock crash, he was very much a Depression kid. He lucked out on Korea. Volunteered for Marines instead of being drafted, but never went over: pulled out of his group to be a rifle instructor, then pulled out of that to be a company clerk when they saw he had some college under his belt and could spell and type. Always old school conservative.
I was born in 65 as an early Gen X, baby in the family.In high school when Reagan first elected, we had despised Carter, detested the leftover Hippie influences evenin late 70s and the general 70s ugliness: disco, the depressing world of Barney Miller on TV. We thought Michael J Fixs character on Family Ties was pretty cool rather than just the comic relief he was intended to be by t he writers. I was old enough to remember late 60s and very early 70s, which in the Deep South were still more in the vein of the 50s and early 60s. So, yes, know some of what was thrown away. At one point some demographers called my early Gen X cohort the Tweeners. Yes the Boomers were themselves a bit young for introducing what they get blamed for, but they absolutely ran with it and doubled down.
My son, whom we waited too late to have, born in 98 was an early Gen Z. Very much part of the memeing and mocking generation that loves Trumps brashness. He and his friends, overwhelmingly right even alt-right, and all making good use of college with mostly STEM majors make me hopeful for the longer haul.

Blogger RandyB February 20, 2020 8:58 AM  

Among the Churchians, there is an unremarked trend in their teaching, preaching, and doctrine statements which started exactly ten years ago. The subject of that trend is "moral and material obligation to the aged".

Ten years ago is when the first Boomer hit age 65. There are no coincidences.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 9:00 AM  

"First guy's right. You're wrong. Unity based on hate of Boomers is no different than unity based on saving the planet. There is one true unity and that is in Christ."

Christian unity necessarily brings in hatred for Boomer satanism.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 9:02 AM  

"The Boomers were destroyed by the psychological nonsense of Freud, Jung, Kinsey, and especially Spock, who cannot be sufficiently damned."

Gen-X was exposed to all of that nonsense, and we didn't follow it. So, why are you telling us that Boomers should get a pass?

Blogger Barefoot Bear February 20, 2020 9:11 AM  

The mind can time travel and I'm pretty sure you accurately depicted the coming mass conciousness (because if the mind can time travel then their processes go with it, and if one of the processes is mass conciousness, then the mass conciousness of times to come can leak into the present, which is where the phenomenon of future intuition or foresight).

Blogger kmbr February 20, 2020 9:12 AM  

Aaaaaah, a boomer thread.

My absolute disdain for these people only grows by the days.

The way they walk in front of your car, pretending to be oblivious but really wanting you to hit them so they can sue you. The way they cut in front of you in line in restaurants again pretending or maybe they really are oblivious. The way they walk into a fast food restaurant and stare at the menu, mouth open like it's the first time they've ever been in a McDonalds. They way they are always in a leisurely frame of mind, enjoying life oblivious the the wreckage all around them.

Blogger Iron Spartan February 20, 2020 9:17 AM  

I don't give the silents and greats a pass. The silents were the first ones to tolerate evil openly. I get that the Greatest fought evil and were tired and scarred by the experience. But both watched their children openly embrace evil and did nothing about it.

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2020 9:18 AM  

@Newscaper312:

My son, whom we waited too late to have, born in 98 was an early Gen Z. Very much part of the memeing and mocking generation that loves Trumps brashness. He and his friends, overwhelmingly right even alt-right, and all making good use of college with mostly STEM majors make me hopeful for the longer haul.

We are going to need a lot of tool & die makers, as the Boomers die off and the Trump "blue-collar boom" accelerates.

So do not hesitate to recommend trade school. I'm no Nostradamus, so I can't make any guarantees. My feeling is that there is a lot of future for machinists and CNC programmers.

Blogger Uncle John's Band February 20, 2020 9:20 AM  

The Boomer compulsion to defend their generation at all costs while denying the existence of generations resembles a collective mental illness.

It certainly speaks to the fundamental dishonesty that defines them in the aggregate. But the thing that really makes them stand out is the collective inability to learn. To process new information, rethink clear errors, and make new judgments. They'll bleat about older generations having led them astray, while still clinging to those same idiocies.

That's collective retardation.

Blogger Joe Smith February 20, 2020 9:31 AM  

The most common thing I hear from Boomers is about the various elective medical procedures they're undertaking, and how they're trying to figure out a way to defraud Medicare into picking up the tab. Literally half the time I hear two Boomers talking about anything the conversation eventually becomes about that.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 20, 2020 9:35 AM  

We are nothing like you. We respect our grandparents and we love our children.

A timely reminder I'm not your audience.

The logic of biology dictates that removing Nature's culling renders each subsequent generation weaker. Smart people today would probably be average a century ago, and common sense anecdotally appears to be a recessive trait, inheritance-wise.

Boomers were perhaps the first generation exhibiting widespread weaknesses (of mind, body and spirit) bequeathed by a near-complete damming of Nature's normal culling. Only those ignorant of general biology, even a farmer's grasp of animal husbandry, can believe that what made "boomers" fools is not present, for the same reasons, in subsequent generations.

You think "boomers'" ideas, beliefs and actions were evil and stupid? Wait until you see what follows, until today's Idiocracy breaks the dam holding back Nature's culling. You will not change the course of the river ahead. Like me, you are surrounded by fools.

With my kids I enjoy mutual love and respect, the same (presumably) as do you. While no snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche, it's also true that no snowflake chose to be deposited on the mountainside instead of the valley.

We don't choose the epoch into which we're born.

Blogger Salt February 20, 2020 9:38 AM  

Uncle John's Band wrote:The Boomer compulsion to defend their generation at all costs while denying the existence of generations resembles a collective mental illness.

There is no defense, but how did it happen? Boomerism didn't spring ab initio, something was behind it, gave it fertile ground even if poisoned.

Blogger kmbr February 20, 2020 9:43 AM  

++defraud Medicare into picking up the tab++

Ever get behind them at the pharmacy? They'll be picking up their suit-cased sized bag of medication and fumble through their wallets for the 17 different cards they have to use as insurance. The cashier will tell them that the total will be $4.12. They will then argue that it should be $3.36 and make the cashier rerun everything, taking up another 45 minutes.

You will then get up there for your one, basic item. The cashier will tell you that your "insurance" won't cover it and your total for this one, basic item is $276.34.

Just happened to me last week. (happens all the time).

Blogger eldiabloloco February 20, 2020 9:43 AM  

Generation CheetoeFingerRobespierre has about as much a chance of fixing reeeeBoomerreee problems as Generation reeeeBoooomerreeee had of fixing the legacy of generation JazzhandsProhibition and Generation GreatestPonziEver. Given that the SJW profile is behavioral rather than generational, the whole generational blame game is idiotic. Doubly so given the generational groups were devised before big brother rendered the vague early pre-computer efforts at targeted marketing completely obsolete.
Until Generation CheetoefingerRobespierre produces something better than Kongrezzkritter AOC, I don't think my reeeeeBooomerreeee acquaintances need be too concerned about grave pissing.

Blogger Avalanche February 20, 2020 9:50 AM  

I suppose there's no point, in this hate-boomers fest, to suggesting you take that article, or the quoted section, above and shift the generations' names up one level?

Article: "Like everyone else they {Millennials} were a product of their environment. And a huge part of that environment, i not the most influential part, was the elders {Boomers} who would raise them."

Edited: "Like everyone else they {Boomers} were a product of their environment. And a huge part of that environment, if not the most influential part, was the elders {Silents?} who would raise them."


So, Millennials had no choice in who/how they became because they were 'brainwashed' being raised by Boomers. But the Boomers sprang fully grown from the forehead of Zeus? Boomers, too, were raised the "product of their environment" and y'all blame the hell out of them because they, too, acted in accord with how they were raised?


Edited: "...would directly and indirectly wield incredible, if not total influence over the {Boomers} and would be the single most determining variable in how the {Boomers} would turn out."
VD: "But instead of weeding the garden of those evil shoots, they enthusiastically watered them."

How, if we were raised *unable* to recognize weeds, were we to know anything about weeding? (Weeds can be pretty or tasty: how were we to know?) Why don't y'all deprecate the Mils for spending a gazillion dollars on basket-weaving degrees? Would THAT not be weeding their own garden of evil shoots? Oh, 'they didn't know better' -- but all Boomers should die horribly because THEY didn't know better either?

I know, it's hopeless: y'all will stay angry and hate Boomers till the end of our lives, if not to the end of yours. But man, it gets frustrating to hear how WE should have known better -- but later gens are blameless for the SAME lack of awareness and knowledge.

I'm more sorry than I can express that we boomers *believed* what we were raised to and *carried on* the destruction planned for Christendom -- but it was NOT planned by boomers! My world, too, has been degraded and destroyed by what we did... but if WE should have known better, why shouldn't y'all have known better too?

Please try to blame the RIGHT enemy, not other victims acting out the program designed for and inculcated into them. Does not Sun Tzu ask us to make sure we're fighting the correct enemy?

Blogger SciVo February 20, 2020 9:54 AM  

Akulkis wrote:"The Boomers were destroyed by the psychological nonsense of Freud, Jung, Kinsey, and especially Spock, who cannot be sufficiently damned."

Gen-X was exposed to all of that nonsense, and we didn't follow it. So, why are you telling us that Boomers should get a pass?


Well the Boomer generational vice was narcissism, while the Xer generational vice was cynicism. And that was causal, because we saw how our parents were so easily taken in by anything even the slightest bit flattering.

As Upton Sinclair famously said, it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon not understanding it. And that's the Boomers in a nutshell.

So we vowed not to follow in those easily-swayed footsteps. And it is fair for us to hold a lower bar for those who had less to work with.

Blogger rumpole5 February 20, 2020 9:57 AM  

Boomer Hate may make Gen Xers and Millennials feel better, but it makes it more difficult to diagnose the overall cultural disease. Boomer dysfunction is a symptom, the culmination of a cultural disease process that began in the 1500s to 1700s. If we don't want to end up as a debased or extinct post tech humanity we should be focused on reversing the long term process.

Blogger Avalanche February 20, 2020 9:58 AM  

@7 "... (even before the boomers were eligible to become senators, they already had undue influence on WHICH WW2 & Silent generations politicians would even be allowed into office. Specifically, the Boomers have preferred politicians who will spend money like drunken sailors on one miserable failure of a social spending program after another."

Ah. That explains all the young people making a strong move to control which "politicians would even be allowed into office"? It explains the Bernie-bros and rest of the commies with their "democratic socialism," and free health care for illegals, etc. etc.? And every single damned-to-hell lib pol voting to take ever more money to give to others?

Edited: "Specifically, the {Gen-Xers, Millennials, and maybe even a lot of Gen-Zyklons} have preferred politicians who will spend money like drunken sailors on one miserable failure of a social spending program after another."

Why are THEY not "weeding their garden"? Nope, it's just the boomers wot dun it? WE should have known better, despite our brainwashing; y'all are not held to that standard, despite yours?

Blogger awildgoose February 20, 2020 10:02 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:When I was in highschool and college I worked a few menial jobs where the president was a guy who started in the loading dock, or the mail room etc. They would say "work hard like him and you could run the company one day".

Yeah that path was long gone by the time GenX entered the workforce.

The other part they left out is that the president's family was well-connected in that town and company. Everyone else that worked on the dock or in the mailroom did not have the benefit of those connections.

Blogger awildgoose February 20, 2020 10:05 AM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:The only Gen-Xers whom the Boomers have allowed to influence the culture are those who stay faithful to Boomerdom, like JJ Abrams and the gang of soft (((nerds))) who direct most big-budget movies now.

100% correct.

The folks you refer to are what I call generational traitors. There seem to be slightly more of them among early Xers than late ones.

Blogger Avalanche February 20, 2020 10:11 AM  

@23 Sure, maybe your parents shouldn't have spoiled you, but now, how about less excuses and use what you've got left to help us fix things for the kids coming up.

Tell us how to help you fix these and we'll help! What are you doing to fix these? How can we help you fix these brainwashed "children"? How do we -- the NORMAL boomers -- help you wrest control of the media, academe, big tech and social media, medicine and its drugs ... pick your destructive method(s)?

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/11/18/PBIN/35ff34b4-74c2-4c73-9efc-d2fdb24c68e3-bu_protest.jpg
https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2019/03/AP_19074250891383-1000x667.jpg
https://snworksceo.imgix.net/azw/9dc1ce8e-4c64-4aca-a4cc-ed1044da56b3.sized-1000x1000.png?w=1000

Blogger The Masked Menace February 20, 2020 10:11 AM  

There once was a boy who encountered a mean nasty dog. The boy luckily escaped without being bitten. He later learned from a friend that the dog was horribly maltreated as a pup. Now the boy didn’t like the dog. He knew he couldn’t change the dog. And he wouldn’t even prevent the dog from being “put down”. But he did understand why the dog is the dog he is.

Blogger Avalanche February 20, 2020 10:13 AM  

@25 "the first nanny was hired it was a foregone conclusion that the work would continue to be outsourced."

Have y'all forgotten Greek and Roman slaves who took care of kids of rich parents? How about wet-nurses for the aristocracy through hundreds of years? "Nannies" were NOT something evil Boomers dreamed up to screw their children!

Blogger Crush Limbraw February 20, 2020 10:17 AM  

First Q: Who raised DaBoomers?
Second Q: Are they faultless?
Third Q:Who produced and directed Da20th century?
Fourth Q:Etc etc etc
From my website: "If not us, who? The destruction of the ‘American Way’ accelerated under my watch – and yours, if you’re anywhere my age – so let’s fess up – we were part of the problem. How so? We let a bunch of ‘developmentally arrested’ adolescent know nothings take over the entire culture and country – every institution you can name is run by so-called liberals (fascists is a better word). It took them over 100 years, but let’s face it – they are in charge and they are not bashful about telling us that they are."
Another Q: WTF are you gonna do about it besides Boomer bashing? Do you now feel better?
Last point: Anyone calling me a Boomer ain't done his research.
Last Q: Did Jesus come to save our asses from DaBoomers? Look in DaFreaking mirror before you explode from your self-righteousness!
There - now I feel better!

Blogger Avalanche February 20, 2020 10:23 AM  

@28 "The boomers could have fought evil, but that would have gotten in the way of self indulgence. "

How many of y'all thought free trade was not just not evil but GREAT and a strength for our nation; and 'engaged in' and supported it happily?!

Right up until you met Vox Day -- who ALSO used think free trade was not evil. WHY did y'all not 'fight evil' of free trade; why did you participate and think it good? Was that self-indulgence? Should younger gens not now get to hate on you for 'not fighting evil' but indulging in supporting free trade?

The vast vast majority of people are not even within sight of the outer walls of the IQ-and-synthesis 'ballpark' Vox Day plays in. Many, maybe most, folks who try to learn why free trade destroys the nation struggle with understanding or explaining why.

Y'all could have fought the evil that is free trade before you met Vox Day -- why did you not? You did not, you COULD not, until you grew to understand -- because someone you respect, with a massive brain, could show you WHY it was evil.

Free trade hate-fest starting when?

Blogger Mike Lasater February 20, 2020 10:39 AM  

Is there something the Greatest Generation could have done differently when raising the Boomers? Are they partially to blame?

Blogger Ostar February 20, 2020 10:42 AM  

The art, music, and culture of the Weimar Republic has been the subject of a month long gala/festival by the most prominent art and cultural site in Los Angeles, the fairly new Walt Disney Concert Hall.
The boomers truly do choose to embrace snd celebrate Evil and Degeneracy.

Blogger Happy Housewife February 20, 2020 10:43 AM  

It always infuriates me to hear my insufferable Boomer father-in-law sneeringly refer to the "participation trophy" generation, not realizing that it wasn't the Millennials' idea in the first place. Only a generation as vain and self-centered as the Baby Boomers would create a special trophy for their own children so that they wouldn't be seen as the parents of losers.

Blogger doctrev February 20, 2020 10:46 AM  

I wonder if the repudiation of student debt is as much an attempt to rebuild the opportunities of the 1960's as it is a stab at the bankers, the boomers, and academia itself.

From reverse mortgages to debt slavery, boomers encourage just about every form of evil in order to make things much worse for their descendants. Ugh.

Blogger kurt9 February 20, 2020 10:53 AM  

Aaron Clary (Captain Capitalism) is one of my favorite bloggers on the net.

Blogger Beau February 20, 2020 10:55 AM  

This is what the LORD says, "Stand at the crossroads and look. Ask for the ancient paths: Where is the good way? Then walk in it and find rest for your souls." - Jeremiah 6:16a

"Return to Me," says the LORD.

Blogger Miguel February 20, 2020 10:59 AM  

Truer words were never said, VD. They agreeded and amplified previous mistakes because it suited their evil passions.

Blogger CharityBear February 20, 2020 11:00 AM  

My family is incredibly boomeresque. Such a tragedy, they like to blame the problems on systemic conservative bigotry.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams February 20, 2020 11:02 AM  

@sammibandit

Now that you've mentioned "GenX is cool," any Boomer who read the whole thread will announce that they taught GenX everything.

Blogger Jason February 20, 2020 11:07 AM  

I agree with the erudite Fr. Ripperger, the worst generation is the so-called, "greatest generation". They were given everything on a golden platter and produced the boomer generation. His arguments are very solid.

https://30piecesofsilverblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/the-sixth-generation_20120615_latin_mass_magazine.pdf

Blogger Stocky Anglo February 20, 2020 11:08 AM  

Boomers had a this strange return to religiosity as they age that is very interesting. All of my millennial peers have observed the evolution in their parents and found it hypocritical enough and common enough to place the hypocrisy a the feet of Christians in general. There will be a huge reckoning for that either here or in the next life for those that portrait Christianity as necessarily hypocritical.

Were they really the first generation to get bombarded by the high levels of psychological warfare we are seeing today?

Blogger kurt9 February 20, 2020 11:11 AM  

This is a timely posting as I just started reading a book called "Where's my flying car" by J Storrs Hall. This book talks about the various factors that prevented the development of a broad based general aviation industry (as well as nuclear power). I bought this book to get his estimate about the development of nanotechnology. What I did not expect is that this book would make me very angry, which much of that anger directed at the "boomer" counterculture of the late 60's through 70's. the discussion on nuclear energy is quite detailed. Admittedly, a big part of the problem is that nuclear power came out of the military industrial complex (which prevented the development of Thorium MSR and Uranium/Plutonium IFR designs). However, Hall places much of the blame on the 1960's counterculture, as do I. I think a lot of what Hall discusses in this book dovetails with a lot of the discussion of the pernicious effects of boomers in general, as discussed on blogs such as this.

Blogger Robert What? February 20, 2020 11:26 AM  

I'm a Boomer and I hate Boomers.

Blogger Darwin is a Harsh Mistress February 20, 2020 11:47 AM  

Okay Boomers.

Maybe the word started when young doctor Kildaire said to his younger head nurse, "Wow, we've got a real 'baby boom' going on in the maternity ward since the war ended, hahahaha wink elbow chuckle!"

But by the time "Boomers" ran with it, it was a Madison Avenue marketing segment label used to sell them shit.

So, if you were born in the aftermath of WWII, if your father was a young serviceman and your mother was his high school sweetheart, and if YOU HATE BEING CALLED A BOOMER . . .

Call yourself something else like, "I turn seventy next month."

Blogger Homesteader February 20, 2020 11:48 AM  

Of those life has given me, an Xer, cause to most keenly hate- every, single one, has been a Boomer.

Their self-righteous Phariseeisms
know no bounds.

Blogger Lazarus February 20, 2020 11:50 AM  

Uncle John's Band wrote:But the thing that really makes them stand out is the collective inability to learn. To process new information, rethink clear errors, and make new judgments. They'll bleat about older generations having led them astray, while still clinging to those same idiocies.

A whole generation based in rhetoric.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 20, 2020 11:53 AM  

@66 SciVo

Re higher end skilled trades...
One of my few regrets is not having had more than one kid. But we waited late and then I had a bunch of job/career insecurity about the time we should have had at least one more.
Another big part of that mistake in holding back was accepting the programming of every average or above kid having to go to 4 yr college and too much concern about expenses, after already paying for Catholic schools for years to keep him out of public schools once out of my wife's elementary school. My dad was always a borderline trainwreck financially when I was growing up so I was too skittish.
In hindsight having a couple more kids might have also been freeing, with varying levels and kinds of smarts and talents.

Regardless I am blessed - son is graduating in May in CS and already has a full time cybersecurity job lined up where he has been working part time. OTOH my nephew in another state, 1 year younger, is adrift, working part time, couch surfing w "friends" and smoking weed, and it is not obvious what my older brother and his wife might have done wrong. My brother did take a few years himself to settle down into something solid for the long haul, but he was never a pot head.

Blogger MJ February 20, 2020 11:54 AM  

As bad as the boomers are, it was the so called greatest generation that passed civil rights and the immigration act in the 60s.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 20, 2020 11:58 AM  

@66 SciVo
Regarding the nephew, my brother is still hoping kid will settle down and take another crack at college -- smarts is not he problem but drive -- but I have supported a 2yr technical school as an inexpensive way to find his niche and be productive. And he could always go for a BS some day if he really wanted. But right now kid has to get his head out of his ass, and it may take hitting bottom in some way before he does.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 20, 2020 12:02 PM  

If you're a Boomer, and your immediate reaction is to defend, excuse or exempt yourself, jsut stop. The only proper response is "I'm sorry."
Either "I'm sorry I was so stupid and self-centered and short sighted" or "I'm sorry I was too ineffective, disengaged, and complacent to stop them."
As another Boomer said:
These children that you spit on
as they try to change their world
are immune to your consolation
they're quite aware
of what they're going through.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 20, 2020 12:10 PM  

@73 Avalanche

The earlier Boomers parent were the Greatest Gen, not the Silents who were kids during WW2.

Blogger Salt February 20, 2020 12:11 PM  

Mike Lasater wrote:Is there something the Greatest Generation could have done differently when raising the Boomers? Are they partially to blame?

One thing comes to mind, the economic boom that resulted from the US being untouched by WWII. It was like winning the Mega Lotto Jackpot. It was quite intoxicating.

Blogger eldiabloloco February 20, 2020 12:14 PM  

Renbo wrote:Boomers had a this strange return to religiosity as they age that is very interesting. All of my millennial peers have observed the evolution in their parents and found it hypocritical enough and common enough to place the hypocrisy a the feet of Christians in general. There will be a huge reckoning for that either here or in the next life for those that portrait Christianity as necessarily hypocritical.

Were they really the first generation to get bombarded by the high levels of psychological warfare we are seeing today?


The reeebooomerxreeee probably are the first generation to be bombarded by psyops. Psyops via newsprint and radio being somewhat less effective. The Orson Wells phenom is interesting to study. Most people today refuse to acknowledge that media is able to change their behavior if they even recognize such attempts are as common as assholes between human legs.

As an experiment, ask people if they think they have ever been influenced by an advertisement. The follow up question to the [very likely] "no" answer is, "Why then are so many billions spent on advertising each year?" You don't need bother waiting for an answer to that one.

Blogger Homesteader February 20, 2020 12:25 PM  

The lady doeth protest far too much.

Avalanche- breathe.

Your insistent, exclamation-marked
lamentations only verify the point you decry.

if you are personally innocent of the charge,
why do you insist on endlessly retrying the case?

Your solipsism is both generational, AND biological.

Blogger Rhology February 20, 2020 12:25 PM  

draft-dodged a war

A point in their favor.
But still...

Blogger cheddarman February 20, 2020 12:28 PM  

You reap what you sow. So says the Bible

Blogger Laconic February 20, 2020 12:36 PM  

As a poor Millennial that lost our house in 2008 when I was a kid ,anyone who wants to talk s*** can go f*** right off

Blogger Laconic February 20, 2020 12:37 PM  

this isn't a go at you by the way

Blogger Hammerli 280 February 20, 2020 12:39 PM  

@27: You're bumping into the Big Generational Truth...a political generation is NOT twenty years. More like ten, perhaps twelve. Which means that the whole Boomer/GenX/Millenial/Snowflake division has too low a sample rate, will give wrong answers. It's also why people born in the early 1960s are so hard to place...they are not Brat Boomers, nor Gen X. I like to call us Baby Busters.

And yes, the Brat Boomers (or at least the half that turned out sour) had themselves a hell of a party, and left the Baby Busters with the wreckage. Which is why we despise them SO very much.

Blogger cheddarman February 20, 2020 12:41 PM  

I have boomer aged relatives that grew up in the country and never embraced the boomer ideals. You see it in their lives, they go to the same churches as their parents and children, their kids stuck around and are raising families themselves, the parents are passing on their businesses to their kids. God blessed them for having good sense.

Blogger Hammerli 280 February 20, 2020 12:44 PM  

@83: "How many of y'all thought free trade was not just not evil but GREAT and a strength for our nation; and 'engaged in' and supported it happily?!"

Actually, I turned against unrestricted free trade about fifteen years ago. Dr. Pournelle's arguments turned me against it. I still support free trade (real free trade, not the pre-Trump one-way deals) with peer states, but trade with non-peer states is a massive problem.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2020 12:45 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:Boomer dysfunction is a symptom, the culmination of a cultural disease process that began in the 1500s to 1700s.
There is much truth in this. We can hope that the Boomers are the culmination of this evil trend.

My parents and most of their friends were Greats, the first generation raised in an explicitly socialist America. The Depression, the New Deal and FDR were what formed them.

*The Greats, as a generation, believed that religion was a private thing, not to be displayed in public. Many of them believed in God, few believed God.
*They believed their children should be kicked out of the house at 18.
*They believed that they should not be burdened by interacting with their grandchildren.
*They believed that they should move away from family to Arizona or Florida as soon as they could retire on their Social Security.

These are the attitudes the Boomers learned from their parents, and doubled down on.

Blogger Uncompliant February 20, 2020 12:48 PM  

@38... LOLOL. Thanks for the laugh.

Blogger Uncle John's Band February 20, 2020 12:50 PM  

@ 70

Combination of mass media and institutions, unprecedented wealth, suburban atomization, cultural homogeneity, collective psy ops, and the manifestly self-evident falsehood that infinite progress was possible in a finite system. Should go without saying that I'm speaking generally, but if you've had much experience with Boomers you'll quickly learn most are too stupid to differentiate between individual and generalized cases.

It's easy to understand why they started out like they did. It's why many over-indulged youth adopt boutique leftism. The Boomers' greatest failure isn't their immature delusions - it's the clearly demonstrated inability to process information, reject juvenile myths and just-so stories, and actually mature in a collective way. It's why so many exhibit the same weird childish solipsism and idolization of their youthful infatuations and vapid pop culture in their 60s and 70s. And why they seem so stupid on average.

Why were they incapable of growth? I don't know if any one thing stunts a generation mentally. Probably more factors than will fit in a comment. It's why it looks like collective brain damage. But whatever the cause(s), it's the being frozen in mental amber that makes them so destructive historically. They can't course correct because they can't learn.

Blogger Akuma February 20, 2020 12:54 PM  

"Gen-X's influence on the millenials has been negligible."

No it hasnt. A lot of them parrot the same shit boomers say. This means they will fling shit downhill at Millenials. They did absolutely nothing to fight back against the hellish nightmare boomers created. Baby boomers are rabih Old Yeller, Gen X is the Wolf, and Millenials are the boy with the Musket.

Blogger weka February 20, 2020 1:02 PM  

Yep. The progressive poison took over. We are well overdue a counter revolution.

I am seeing a revival in faith locally over the last five years, as the mask has been lost by our labourite rulers.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2020 1:22 PM  

Hammerli 280 wrote:It's also why people born in the early 1960s are so hard to place...they are not Brat Boomers, nor Gen X. I like to call us Baby Busters.
Baby Busters is what the demographers call us.

For the Boomers, Vietnam and the draft were defining issues. The last person to be drafted was born around '55, so the Boomer generation would have ended by '58 or so - anyone born that late would have spent his high school years NOT expecting to get drafted and sent to Vietnam.

Those of us who came along in the '60s grew up watching Silent and Boomer hippies destroying themselves and everything around us. They destroyed our society right in front of us, before we were able to take our places in it.

Blogger Uncompliant February 20, 2020 1:30 PM  

@ 69 ... what ahistorical nonsense is this? You say: "Boomers were perhaps the first generation exhibiting widespread weaknesses (of mind, body and spirit) bequeathed by a near-complete damming of Nature's normal culling." Seriously?

Let's see ... 1609 forward ... war, drown in ocean, die the first year, war again, crops fail, die of hunger, die of some fever, die via arrows and burning, more wars, "you have died of dysentery", "you have been eaten by a bear," "you have been crushed by a tree," "you have fallen from a cliff", a formal war declared, some rebellions, yet another war, "you died building a canal," more wars between the mountains and the river, a big war and you have been killed by cannon fire, more wars on that side of the river and this side of those mountains, more "you have died of dysentery", now "you have been killed by a train," "you have died by falling into molten steel," more war, "you have been crushed by a machine," now a big big war, now the flu, now a big market crash and flappers die of hunger and famine and a bowl of dust and more "you have died of dysentery" then an even bigger big big war.

THEN popped out the boomers. The boomers are not the result of any lack of culling among their predecessors. Boomers made their choices; the explanation is not genetic weakness caused by lack of culling.

Blogger MaskettaMan February 20, 2020 1:37 PM  

"Fighting the power" and "Free love" were astroturfed ideas to begin with. The Silent Majority has always been real and there have always been persons making up fake narratives. Just keep thinking "Cui bono?" so you don't get fooled by all the fake history.

Blogger Up from the pond February 20, 2020 1:40 PM  

You nailed it.

Blogger Macs February 20, 2020 1:43 PM  

The Boomers too are the product of their elders. Not trusting anyone over 30 is a sign of the breakdown of community, the youth becoming a tribe apart. This is only natural when Western society had just endured a massive bloodletting and their was reason to believe an even worse one was on the horizon in the form of nuclear war.

Blogger Lunchbag Lizard February 20, 2020 1:44 PM  

I would highly recommend that people read "I.O.U. Why Everyone Owes Everyone and No One Can Pay" by John Lanchester. It provides a great overview as to why the 2008 financial crisis happened (without being bogged down in unnecessary detail like the book "The Big Short").

The lessons of that crisis should be learned by all generations.

Blogger urthshu February 20, 2020 1:51 PM  

>Generation CheetoeFingerRobespierre
Stopped reading right there.

Blogger urthshu February 20, 2020 2:02 PM  

>sneeringly refer to the "participation trophy" generation
Mockery, selfishness, cruelty, ignorance, and infantilism are the hallmarks of the Boomers.
And no, we don't want you to help fix anything. Please stop helping.

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 2:11 PM  

Right up until you met Vox Day -- who ALSO used think free trade was not evil. WHY did y'all not 'fight evil' of free trade; why did you participate and think it good? Was that self-indulgence? Should younger gens not now get to hate on you for 'not fighting evil' but indulging in supporting free trade?

And yet, here you are, STILL defending Boomers! This is why people will never forgive your generation.

And yes, if I was still defending free trade and attempting to justify my belief in free trade despite knowing what I know now, I would deserve the same treatment that you and your fellow Boomers are getting.

Blogger Just_George February 20, 2020 2:28 PM  

OK Boomer.
Guilty.
Sorry.
On behalf of all the Boomers west of the Mississippi I want to say I am sorry.
I should have realized we were being played in Vietnam BEFORE I volunteered....Less personally... we should have been in the streets when the machine in Chicago stole the election from Nixon. How about Roe V Wade? We DID NOTHING.... The list goes on and on.
OK now that we have the issue of Boomer guilt addressed...
How can we come together to fix this sh*t now?

Problem identified. Let me hear your solutions.




Blogger Up from the pond February 20, 2020 2:29 PM  

>>"Mockery, selfishness, cruelty, ignorance, and infantilism are the hallmarks of the Boomers."

And of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

The title of Gibney's book is apt: _A Generation of Sociopaths_.

Blogger kennymac February 20, 2020 2:31 PM  

Best blog on the intarwebs! No sooner does one person put forth an observation, like say... Boomers never learn, than someone else comes along and proves him right. Where else can you see this kind of thing happen before your very eyes?

Blogger Storm Rhode February 20, 2020 2:32 PM  

Things happened while the Boomers were in charge that they didn't necessarily agree with. No fault divorce? They never voted for it. Runaway government spending? Whether they vote Democrat or Republican they got it. What will we be blamed for? Will the dollar collapse under our watch? Will the kung fu flu kill lots of people around the world? Is it our fault gay marriage and New York approved abortions after birth? How about government surveillance or infringement on the 2nd amendment? What did we do to stop such things? Is it our fault? Will you accept the blame when you are an old pensioner living on the dust of the imploded dollar?

Blogger Balam February 20, 2020 2:34 PM  

Akuma wrote:They did absolutely nothing to fight back against the hellish nightmare boomers created.

Murdering a full quarter of an entire generation will probably take the wind out of their sails. Stalin himself didn't oversee the amount of death that the Boomers did.

A better analogy, over yer old yeller, would be asking, "Why didn't the proles muster the strength to take out Stalin's Red Army!". A ridiculous question because the answer is that they killed everyone. In their case though at least the Soviets waited til they were out of the womb to do it.

Blogger Just_George February 20, 2020 2:41 PM  

"And yet, here you are, STILL defending Boomers! This is why people will never forgive your generation." VD

*sighs*

Sounds more like Greta Von Berka than Vox Day. WWJD? Anyone?

Blogger Kingly Gift February 20, 2020 2:48 PM  

It's my opinion that all the generations since the advent of mass media (radio, TV, movies -roughly the last 100 years) have been so heavily propagandized that it is hard to rate which one is worse than the others.

Regarding the Boomers, it is truly amazing how their instinct for skepticism and critical thought was so completely hijacked and co-opted by the media makers. 50 years after this hijacking, the Boomers still think they are going against the grain. While in reality they are the epitome of lazy, take everything you hear at face value, indolent, self centered children.

Of course I'm speaking in generalities, there are great Boomers out there, but man are they few and far between.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl February 20, 2020 2:52 PM  

You're right, some of us GenXers did raise Millennials. My kids are 30 and 31.
Married, grandkids, zero college debt and not barking leftists.
I passed my sheer Boomer loathing down to them, and while they know to avoid/distrust Boomers, they still don't feel as negatively about them as I do.
I tried my best,tho,and my older grandkids know what's up.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 20, 2020 2:56 PM  

Boomers made their choices; the explanation is not genetic weakness caused by lack of culling.

Pray tell, what IS the explanation? Did Lucifer inseminate all those women from 1946 to 1963? Are those born then infected with some kind of T-virus, rendering them cannibalistic zombies? [Rhetorical question; this foolishness has reached the literally Hitler silly-state.]

Vox Day battles people of his generation in video games, publishing, etc. but thinks he has zero responsibility for the pervasive idiocy they represent.

Vox Day (et al) blames every single person born between 1947 and 1964 for the idiocy their peers applauded. Forgive me for objecting to such sophistry.

"Bad Ideas" are the bubonic plague of every era. Do you think it was a few bad harvests that did in the Mayans, the Incas, or the Western Roman Empire?

What is a "widespread bad idea" but a long-lived fad or fashion, the kind described in Charles Mackay's famous book? And y'all blame every cell in the body for the errors they are just as unable to resist as those you are unable to resist. Or are only the 12 disciples commenting on this blog?

Only an Act of God changes the course of the river. The central error of this Age is the notion that Man is God and can alter Nature's Laws at will. Everyone (boomers included) plays their role in Nature's (or God's) plan. If you think you're above all that, then you might want to check your theology.

Blogger Avalanche February 20, 2020 2:57 PM  

@107 "if you are personally innocent of the charge,
why do you insist on endlessly retrying the case?"

If I, personally, am innocent of the charge, why am I so often (metaphorically) surrounded by others insisting every single boomer on the planet deserves to be drawn, quartered, burned to char, and their graves pissed on?

Later/younger gens insist we boomers happily destroyed everything we valued, we were evil, and we knew we were doing evil, and we somehow should have known it was evil and we were doing it because we were innately and irreparably evil.

Today's various younger generations are just as strenuously supporting, pushing for and writing laws about puberty blockers for toddlers, drag queers library time for preteens, protesting and committing violence to let every dreg of the planet come in and get better care than our own people... Do THEY know know that this is evil? Are they choosing to do evil out of self-indulgence? Should THEY not be weeding their gardens?

I certainly do and did deprecate the "turn on, tune in, and drop out crap." The boomers who dove in deserve chastising and perhaps punishment, beyond the destruction of our nation. HOW does my generations acting in accord with the brainwashing we underwent differ from today's gens acting in accord with the brainwashing they underwent / are undergoing? Are all succeeding generations evil -- and acting in full knowledge of their evil?

How can that be?

Blogger HouellebecqGurl February 20, 2020 3:00 PM  

This is technically true. There are a fair number of GenXers, especially older ones like me and Vox, that spew Boomer talking points but GenX has NEVER had any institutional power. Here it is 2020, and the president come November will STILL be a choice between 4 old Boomers, despite our eligibility to hold that office started way back in 1999.
We don't run newsrooms, colleges, or have much cultural relevance.
We got skipped like the Baby Buster's, AKA, Lost Generation we are.

Blogger urthshu February 20, 2020 3:04 PM  

To show something contextual that I think I have the broad outline of for the benefit of millennials:
There was an ambitious project called NAWAPA which you ought to look up and it will horrify you, but that horror is your Boomer infection talking.
It was proposed by Greats and they'd have done it and our nation would have been far different than now, maybe greater but I can't say. Largely it was boomers that opposed it. And it's an accomplishment to have done so, I won't say whether good or no, just that it is.
Thing is, the Greats had their own ways and they stopped doing big things after that which is very much their behavior. And so we forgot how.
And everything ecofascist came out of that initial movement I think.
Millennials look at everything crumble and ask why won't we do big things anymore, bewildered by our inaction. Xers know but we really can't do much. You largely don't know and can't disentangle yourselves from the traps you're in.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl February 20, 2020 3:06 PM  

"... but we would never burn any books..."

UGH. Speak for yourself, because I am all for blasphemy laws and the destruction of Communist Jew propaganda being wiped from the face of the Earth.
You sound like some normie Conserva-Tarian cultural loser.

Blogger dc.sunsets February 20, 2020 3:06 PM  

And yes, if I was still defending free trade and attempting to justify my belief in free trade despite knowing what I know now, I would deserve the same treatment that you and your fellow Boomers are getting.

Really? I've never once defended the idiocy my peers applaud. Not once. But we're back to NABALT, aren't we? We're great mind-readers on this blog, where because I'm a boomer, it's known that my kids all hate me because I kicked them to the curb at 18 while golfed weekly in the Bahamas and hang around with their 30 year old step-mom, making sure I consume their inheritance. (Can I scoff on the web?)

Your bat. Your ball. Your stadium. Your umpires. Not omniscience, however.

Blogger Greg Hunt February 20, 2020 3:08 PM  

@The Masked Menace
Funny thing about your story, it reminds me of all the comicbook villains from growing up. No matter how dangerous, they were always locked up in jail.

I was very young when I thought, if you'd just kill him, you wouldn't need the billion dollar facility for housing the one super dangerous supervillain. When he escapes again, and he will, he'll kill hundreds. Why not just kill him now?

Blogger Greg Hunt February 20, 2020 3:10 PM  

Tell them "No".

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 20, 2020 3:30 PM  

Just_George wrote:Sounds more like Greta Von Berka than Vox Day. WWJD? Anyone?
hat Would Jesus Do?
Jesus would kick your ass, and cast you into the outer darkness to wail and gnash your teeth.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl February 20, 2020 3:31 PM  

Not 100% gone for older GenX in certain parts of the country. I still remember being hired off of job's testing instead of based off of my college degree by small businesses that were owner,/operated. Which is why I mourn it's loss when "jobs' testing," AKA, IQ and general knowledge testing, went fully by the wayside. I still remember apprenticeship from my youth. It was wonderful. I remember young men going to tech college 1/2 the school day and going on to apprentice at for an electrician, plumber, tool and die manufacturer, etc., getting hired to start up the ladder at 17,straight out of high school. Young people knew how to wire their own homes and bake their own bread.
I can say with certainty that we GenXers,especially those of us on the tail end of the old system,were NOT the ones who destroyed it.

Blogger Lunchbag Lizard February 20, 2020 3:32 PM  

@129 Reinstating Glass-Steagall would be a start.

Blogger xevious2030 February 20, 2020 3:33 PM  

“Boomers' main crime? Believing their own PR.”
Reads:
“Boomers’ main crime was caring too much.” That’s (((healer))) wizardry, different thread.

“We don't choose the epoch into which we're born.”
When I was 2 1/2 years old, stepped in a fire ants nest. Felt crawling tingly, kind of fun. Then they all started biting. Got my f-ing foot out of the hole. Boomers, as adults, not only shove their foot deeper, they grab their kids and neighbors feet and shove them in too, tell them how they are doing them such a favor, how it’s not their fault, say people have always done that.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 20, 2020 3:39 PM  

"But lately, I've been wondering if the Left's hatred for their progenitors---as well as our frustration with the Boomers---are somehow two sides of the same coin."

Spoiled children hating their parents is not the same as children hating their spoiled parents, though they might sometimes coincide. However, the ones who hate the boomers most aren't their children, yet.

What to do with the Boomers though? Punishment has two purposes, for the edification of the person being punished, or for the edification of onlookers. The Boomers are too old to change in any meaningful way at this point, even if they would change with anything short of cutting out their tongues, and they'd die anyway without being allowed to retain their ill-gotten gains. Who else would be edified by them living on as an example? The young children wouldn't understand, and everyone else would care very little except that they had to pay for their upkeep.

Better for the Boomers to quietly disappear, taking nothing with them. If they do it themselves by shutting up, sitting down, and taking all the blows that come, that's fine, but if not, I suspect they'll have progressively less choice in how gently they exit stage left.

"their truth."

Pick one of those, and only one.

"Unity based on hate of Boomers is no different than unity based on saving the planet."

Hope your pillow's comfortable.

"A timely reminder I'm not your audience."

Then sit back down.

"Only those ignorant of general biology, even a farmer's grasp of animal husbandry, can believe that what made "boomers" fools is not present, for the same reasons, in subsequent generations."

Only those simple and binary of mind, or wickedly invested by choice, can assume that genetics determine everything. Convenient excuse, and transparent. If the Boomers couldn't help it, they're like dogs with rabies, fit only to be put down. Too bad, so sad, no other solution for it.

"Look in DaFreaking mirror before you explode from your self-righteousness!"

I can't see myself in the mirror because there's Boomer BS all over me from them actually exploding out of self-righteousness.

Blogger RJ February 20, 2020 3:40 PM  

"Largely it was boomers that opposed it." Yeah, all of those teens and pre-teens stopped it...

JFC, you Boomers just keep reinforcing the point...

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2020 3:42 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Jesus would kick your ass, and cast you into the outer darkness to wail and gnash your teeth.
Next time we see Him, there will be blood up to the horses' bridles.

Blogger Up from the pond February 20, 2020 3:43 PM  

"I was only following orders. And I wasn't as bad as the other ones."

It's like the guilty have a script.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl February 20, 2020 3:44 PM  

No fault divorce was passed by St Ronnie Raygun in the latter half of his reign.
I was a brand new vting Xer, and the Boomers were the largest voting block in the country, so bullshit.
Same with the Clinton NAFTA crap. Same as with no-fault divorce and Reagan's destruction of California thru amnesty.
I was there, guy.

Blogger Just_George February 20, 2020 3:46 PM  

sic "hat Would Jesus Do?
Jesus would kick your ass, and cast you into the outer darkness to wail and gnash your teeth."

OR ???

"Forgive them Father for they know not what they do."

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 3:47 PM  

"As bad as the boomers are, it was the so called greatest generation that passed civil rights and the immigration act in the 60s."

While that is true, have the Boomers:

a) Corrected the mistake
or
B) DOUBLED DOWN ON THE IDIOCY?

Blogger areopagus February 20, 2020 3:48 PM  

In 1960, the oldest boomers were 15. In 1970, the boomers were between 5 & 25. The '60's were a turning point of the zeitgeist, but the boomers had absolutely no influence on them. We just went along for the ride.

Sure, the boomers raised the millenials & the zoomers and did a more or less crappy job of it, but the rot had already set in & we had no power to change it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 20, 2020 3:49 PM  

Just_George wrote:"Forgive them Father for they know not what they do."
When I want your pardon, I'll ask for it. If you found offense in that, you put it there yourself. Go be sanctimonious somewhere else.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 20, 2020 3:50 PM  

"Sounds more like Greta Von Berka than Vox Day. WWJD? Anyone?"

Say that it would be better for you to vanish into the abyss with a millstone shoelace, probably.

"blames every single person born between 1947 and 1964 for the idiocy their peers applauded."

You know, if it actually didn't resemble you, it wouldn't get your goat so bad. You'd be able to shut up and sit down and let it sail on over your head. Here you are though, with a big shit-eating target painted on your face, bobbing for hose apples.

"We're great mind-readers on this blog, where because I'm a boomer, it's known that my kids all hate me"

"Me, me, my, my, I, I, I, I, I, my, me, I, my...." If it's all about you, you're the target we're looking for, self identified.

Blogger urthshu February 20, 2020 3:58 PM  

Sorry to disappoint, RJ, but I'm X. It's fine though no skin off mine

Blogger Just_George February 20, 2020 4:00 PM  

"For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment." James 2:13 NKJV

Boomers are not your biggest problem kids. You are your biggest problem.

"And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest" John 8:9

You'll see.




Blogger kennymac February 20, 2020 4:07 PM  

“ Boomers are not your biggest problem kids. You are your biggest problem” You’re partially right, YOU world class narcissists are not our problem, the problems you either created or exacerbated are. Now shut the fuck up Boomer.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 20, 2020 4:07 PM  

Just_George wrote:You are your biggest problem.
Perhaps you should spend more effort on understanding where you gave offense than on this passive-aggressive "I forgive you for calling me on my bullshit" virtue signal.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2020 4:07 PM  

Just_George wrote:OR ???

"Forgive them Father for they know not what they do."

That was the first visit, George. Next time will be different. Revelation 14, blood up to the horses' bridles.

Blogger Just_George February 20, 2020 4:35 PM  

Boomer:

"World class passive aggressive, narcissists with an extreme case of oldness." Guilty. And my closet smells like moth balls. Now get off my f*cking lawn you young bastards.

Again ....On behalf of all Boomers west of the Mississippi ....
I AM SORRY.
Kidding aside.

Yea ....we messed up sorry.
End of.






Blogger Newscaper312 February 20, 2020 4:38 PM  

@114 Hammerli

Same here. Dr. Pournelle was the one who made me rethink international free trade.
I do prefer his idea of a moderate across the board tariff as the way to try to go -- add some friction to counteract the tendency of taxes and regs to make mfg jobs leave, and to try to avoid the trap of straight up targeted protectionism to favor certain unions or companies over the rest of the people. FWIW I am glad Japanese competition made the bloated and complacent US Big 3 have to improve.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 4:39 PM  

"No it hasnt. A lot of them parrot the same shit boomers say. This means they will fling shit downhill at Millenials. They did absolutely nothing to fight back against the hellish nightmare boomers created. Baby boomers are rabih Old Yeller, Gen X is the Wolf, and Millenials are the boy with the Musket."

Yes, among my cohort, there are some who parrot the idiot idioms of the Boomers. But most of us reject that nonsense, just as Mad Magazine was pointing out the idiocy of those ideas when the Boomers were the main demographic reading Mad.

As for Gen-X correcting it?

Oh, we've had a burning desire to undo all of the nonsense the Boomers have cause. Look at the Boyscouts debacle.... and then note WHO is at the top of the organization. It's ALL Boomers. They had a chance to NOT turn it into the GayLeaders&YoungPrey of America, but no... they said it was for "the best" to let the demographic with both the highest rate of pedophilia AND which is sexually attracted to their scouts to be leaders.

Not letting gay males be boyscout leaders is as obviously correct as not letting men be girlscout leaders and taking them into the woods for overnight camp outs. OBVIOUS.

And yet the Boomer leaders decided to do the obviously wrong thing.

Why?

You could say this is a rare occurance, yet it isn't.

Gen-X, we are far from perfect.
But for all of our problems, one thing we do right is recognize when we've made a wrong decision, learn from it, and correct the wrong decision.

Boomers double-down on their own wrong decisions.
Boomers double-down on the Silents' wrong decisions.
Boomers double-down on the "Greatests'"* wrong decisions.
Hell, Boomers even double-down on FDR's wrong decisions.
(What was the Obama-era economic policy, other than a replay of FDR economics with the "Greatests'"

* The WW2 generation went through a lot, but surviving hardship isn't great in and of itself. That the US finished WW2 being the strongest country on the planet had nothing to do with the decisions they made, other than personal survival on the battlefield, and the required low-level teamwork required to do just that. They were merely the manpower.

And seeing how the theater commanders in Vietnam, who were all young officers in WW2 tells us a lot about them when they were put IN CHARGE of a war. Despite the fact that every theater commander in Vietnam was not merely a WW2 veteran, but a combat veteran, and to screw it up so badly is amazing.

Robert McNamara (Ford Edsel, F-111 which has never even been CAPABLE of performing an F-type mission, Vietnam War, McNamara's Retards [100k low IQ boys drafted, with predictably deleterious to fatal results], then onto the IMF where he made loans to 3rd world countries with repayment terms which were UTTERLY impossible for them to make) is the classic personification of the WW2-generation perpetual screw up. Thank God he was a rarity among his generation. Boomer leaders, on the other hand, seem to be ALL cut from McNamara's mold.

Blogger sammibandit February 20, 2020 4:40 PM  

@Just-George

No forgiveness without repentance. Don't demand people shirk their duties so you can have a clear conscience, blasphemous boomer. If you understood the biblical concept of judgement you'd understand righteous judgement is A-OK and prescribed for situations like this. But you only understand ~you don't know me, don't judge me, I do what I want~

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 4:46 PM  

"THEN popped out the boomers. The boomers are not the result of any lack of culling among their predecessors. Boomers made their choices; the explanation is not genetic weakness caused by lack of culling."

Perhaps the lack of culling is one which I have mentioned from time to time as plaguing America.

Far too many idiots, who, in previous eras would have died in childhood due to their own stupid actions (or those of their parents) lived to voting age due to vast improvements in medical care, starting first and foremost with antibiotics.

In other words, if significantly fewer Boomers had made it to adulthood, perhaps there would be no reason to be complaining about them.

Blogger Storm Rhode February 20, 2020 4:51 PM  

"No fault divorce was passed by St Ronnie Raygun in the latter half of his reign.
I was a brand new vting Xer, and the Boomers were the largest voting block in the country, so bullshit.
Same with the Clinton NAFTA crap. Same as with no-fault divorce and Reagan's destruction of California thru amnesty.
I was there, guy."

When they voted for Reagan they were not voting for no fault divorce or amnesty in California. They were voting for lower taxes. Its like those who voted for the recent Bush didn't necessarily vote for the Patriot Act. Every generation is getting hood winked by the owners of the political class. Did us gen-xers vote for everyone to be irradiated and or physically molested at the airports? Its the same thing throughout time. The answer is not to attack our wounded. Do you know any Boomer who voted for Reagan because he said he would give amnesty in California or sign off on no fault divorce? And if Reagan had lost to Carter or Mondale do you think things would have been any better in the long run?

Blogger Noah B. February 20, 2020 5:03 PM  

You shrieking Boomers are hilarious. The ones who aren't in any way part of the problem recognize how rotten their peers are and see no need to defend their g-g-generation.

Blogger Akuma February 20, 2020 5:09 PM  

@Balam
"Murdering a full quarter of an entire generation will probably take the wind out of their sails. Stalin himself didn't oversee the amount of death that the Boomers did."

Excuses. Someone responded to me above and said Gen-X has had since 1999 to enter positions to push back. If you include Gen-X Alphas theres no excuse for Boomers to not have been dealt a serious blow by now. All it would take is these Gen-X Alphas to get together, pool their resources, rally their betas, and overthrow the Boomers.

Blogger Uncle John's Band February 20, 2020 5:13 PM  

Looking over this thread you can see that they resemble gammas in that they can't help being proof of concept. And equally obtuse, self-righteous, and solipsistic, though more self-pitying.

The value of engaging them is the instructional benefit it provides for others.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 5:13 PM  

"
I was very young when I thought, if you'd just kill him, you wouldn't need the billion dollar facility for housing the one super dangerous supervillain. When he escapes again, and he will, he'll kill hundreds. Why not just kill him now?"

Could it be said that the lesson the Boomers learned from Comic Books was -- "Never solve a problem; instead, make money off of the perpetual clean-up"

This aligns with the saying, "No doctor will EVER find a cure for cancer, because they make far too much money treating in a non-curable fashion."

Blogger SirHamster February 20, 2020 5:13 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:Boomer Hate may make Gen Xers and Millennials feel better, but it makes it more difficult to diagnose the overall cultural disease.
OK, Boomer.

You don't get it. Boomer culture *is* the disease. Your identification with and defense of Boomer culture is why all of you Boomers are hated.

The saddest part is how you Boomer apologists can't recognize how you're fanning the flames.

You don't understand why you're hated or how to deal with it. The best possible thing you all can do is to just shut up. Act like you're ashamed for this shameful state of things.

Just_George wrote:"And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest" John 8:9

You'll see.

The eldest of that generation had the sense to exit quietly.
Here we see the elder Boomer throw stones at everyone, self-righteously attacking the supposed self-righteousness of younger generations.

Zero self-awareness.

"WWJD?", he concern-trolls. Jesus whipped the money-changers out of the temple for robbing the worshipers, perverting the purpose of a house of worship.

What will he do to a generation who murdered and robbed their own children, perverting the purposes of family, nation, and religion?

Remember that millstones were too good for those who cause the little ones to stumble.

Perhaps Corona-chan has something to say to that.

Blogger xevious2030 February 20, 2020 5:26 PM  

George, you do realize there is a collapse coming, and it is likely to get bloody? Instead of retiring to Costa Rica, a lot of X-ers are going to have to fight in it. A number of X-ers kids, grandkids, will likely end up dying in it. Because of conditions Boomers set in motion. Not in a rice paddy overseas, but in what was once the US. What Boomers did to the US. And it is wondered why when Boomers fish for sympathy, they’re handed talk about pillows and pissing on graves. That’s why George.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 5:30 PM  

"How can we come together to fix this sh*t now?

Problem identified. Let me hear your solutions."

One... start talking to your Boomer friends that they had better put the engines in reverse and start undoing the damage that they are responsible for, becuase Gen-X, the Millenials, and Gen-Z are NOT joking when we talk about "The Day of the Pillow."

Tell them that if they don't stop the rampant, fraudulent using foreign labor and foreign technicians, then AFTER the Pillow, they're going to end up either in unmarked pauper's graves, or even just left out in the open for the critters to dine on.

Because ALL us are utterly fed up with them, Especially Gen-X who have them burn everything that's good, and build either start, or add on to, everything that's wrong (and JAIL or even kill those who try to resist the wrong.

If they don't seem to undertand, ask them, "Was Kristallnacht a terrible thing?" Of course they will agree.

Then ask them, "How many people died in Kristallnacht, versus how many of us will die in the Day of the Pillow?"

Remind them, that many won't ever live long enough to see experience the Day of the Pillow, seeing how medical facilities are now over-run with below-standard affirmative action quota 3rd-worlders, especially nurses and nurses aids, which leads to treatment errors in direct contradiction to the orders on the chart, and attendants who don't give a hoot that they knocked the plug for the vitals monitor out of the wall while mopping the floor. Because they're all TOO CHEAP to pay Americans to do the job, even while bragging about how many properties and unnecessary vehicles they own for no other purpose than to have the most expensive toys they can get their hands on, while doing nothing in the slightest along the lines of say, teaching their grandchildren how to do the maintenance and upkeep on those toys.

Blogger Unknown February 20, 2020 5:37 PM  

Vox Day and Aaron Clarey: No Quarter for the Boomer IDF

Blogger A trite re-white February 20, 2020 5:39 PM  

Silly boomers don't they know that violence is the answer. Violence is for kids. So just take your vacations give us some more debt keep selling us out till you die. (My mom has constantly lied to me about my inheritance and is now leaving me broke ,I'm giving her a dime). And leave the violence up to us little twerps.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 20, 2020 5:39 PM  

Akuma wrote:Someone responded to me above and said Gen-X has had since 1999 to enter positions to push back.
Even now, today, with the Boomers in their 60s, 70s, and 80's they are outnumbered by Boomers, as well as Millennials. If you take the illegal aliens out of the numbers, GenX are the smallest generation since WW1.

Blogger Starboard February 20, 2020 5:58 PM  

Snidley, funny enough the Lost Generation was four generations before GenX. Small generation. Alienated generation. Nomad generation. What goes around comes around again.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:05 PM  

"Sure, the boomers raised the millenials & the zoomers and did a more or less crappy job of it, but the rot had already set in & we had no power to change it."

That is a complete lie. You have controlled Congress (in who gets voted into office) since 1985 at the latest, and in physical presence for at least the last 20 years.

There has been more than ample opportunity for the Boomer-elected and then Boomer-dominated Congress to fix these things rather than enacting policies which make all of the problems EVEN WORSE than they were before.

Blogger Steve Canyon February 20, 2020 6:12 PM  

Boomers were old enough to vote in'64, congizant enough to have swallowed the legacy of their sainted JFK hook, line, and sinker, and their naievite lacked the worldliness to critically question what the media was feeding them about the goings on in Alabama shown on TV . They're equally culpable as the greatest generation there.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:13 PM  

"Boomers are not your biggest problem kids. You are your biggest problem."

... He said as he made his money my exclusively employing under-the-table illegal laborers, and H1-B asshats illegally living 12 to house in a 2-bedroom house in a neighborhood zoned R-1 (Residential, Single-family), as he votes for one Congressman and Senator after another, all of whom vote repeatedly to NOT fund any proper security on the Southern border, because he's addicted to everything smuggled through that border, including humans..... and then whining that his children, nieces and nephews, and grand-kids are "too lazy" to get jobs in high school, and don't have enough sense to work 28-hours per day while paying to go to school full time.

We would think more of you if you did like the Japanese do when they screw up. Publicly admit it, and then ram yourself through with a 12-inch blade followed by vigorous swirling once its fully inserted.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:23 PM  

"Excuses. Someone responded to me above and said Gen-X has had since 1999 to enter positions to push back. If you include Gen-X Alphas theres no excuse for Boomers to not have been dealt a serious blow by now. All it would take is these Gen-X Alphas to get together, pool their resources, rally their betas, and overthrow the Boomers."

You do realize that the Boomers are more methodical and ACTIVE in preventing Gen-X from having any sort of power and opportunity (and quickly acting if a Gen-X'er gets any power and uses it against Boomeristic policies and narratives) more than they do to you Millenials.

Akuma, you NEVER saw what this country was like, nor felt the spirit of optimism and ability to conquer real problems before the Boomers destroyed all that. Those of us in Gen-X did. And the Boomers are absolutely aware that we're not only furious about it, but most of us would gladly mass-murder entire "retirement" communities save for the fact that life in prison or execution would just be a final lowpoint of a life in near constant decline caused by that locust generation.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 6:29 PM  

@Starboard

Read "The Fourth Turning" by Strauss and Howe.

The Boomers are a "Prophet" generation.

However, unlike most Prophet generations, who preached improvement, the Boomers have preached evil and destruction.

Blogger Boomer55 February 20, 2020 6:42 PM  

@75
There was an inversion point in the 1960's, with movies like Wild in the Streets. There was a young asshole who became President of the US by lowering the voting age to 14. Wherever you see this degeneration, there is always classic inversion, and therefore, evil.

The idea of Freedom is a failure without Christ, or the Logos. It actually becomes license to do whatever you want without consequences.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 20, 2020 6:45 PM  

"You're not laughing about anything. It causes you severe emotional pain just to know that your generation is despised, because it strikes at the very core of your self-value. We are nothing like you. We respect our grandparents and we love our children.

You had open contempt for the generations that preceded you and you still value fancy pants and lollipops more than the generations that succeeded you. Now those generations are returning your contempt in spades. Deal with it.".


I do enjoy Vox's Boomer threads.

So many formerly unspoken things are brought to light in these threads.

Blogger jeffinjapan February 20, 2020 6:52 PM  

Not true. You can hate the negro as a collective but as individuals treat them with respect until they...no longer deserve it, which depending on the setting, usually doesn’t take long.

As a Boomer, DOB:1961, I have to accept the fact that this boomer hate is pretty much justified so I just roll with it and not worry since I’m the most based boomer on the planet!

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei February 20, 2020 6:56 PM  

Pray tell, what IS the explanation?

Lazy, pampered self-absorption coupled with the greatest material wealth and technological achievement the world has seen.

Blogger Fargle Gumpshite February 20, 2020 7:09 PM  

Man this is pure delusion on your part. Almost all my teachers and professors were x, and to a person they were absurdly self centered. I’m sure you guys make effort to convince your children that you are some kind oppressed victim group, but most of us and our kids see gen X as boomers sans hope. Luckily for you my generation traded “f u dad” for racial identity politics, so we won’t spend the next 35 years making empty day of the pillow threats.

Blogger Barefoot Bear February 20, 2020 7:10 PM  

Yup!

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 7:30 PM  

Avalanche, if you don't want to be criticized as part of the Boomer problem, then quit defending Boomers and the problems which they have
a) Caused
and
b) Steadfastly REFUSED to correct, despite decades of data showing that they are absolutely wrong.

"I certainly do and did deprecate the "turn on, tune in, and drop out crap." The boomers who dove in deserve chastising and perhaps punishment, beyond the destruction of our nation. HOW does my generations acting in accord with the brainwashing we underwent differ from today's gens acting in accord with the brainwashing they underwent / are undergoing? Are all succeeding generations evil -- and acting in full knowledge of their evil?"

Your generation was warned, time and again.
Every time, the response was "Nyah, Nyah! Slippery Slope Fallacy! I can't hear you!" and every single time, the Slippery Slope turned out to be true, and usually BEYOND what the "alarmists" warned would happen.


Lastly, your generation was warned even in such counter-culture publications as MAD Magazine -- published by (((Bill Gaines))))

I have a copy of the DVD that MAD published EVERY ISSUE in .pdf file form, from the date of mastering the DVD going all the way back to issue #1. Even though MAD is defunct, this DVD is available and easily obtained via torrents. Check Pirate Bay.

What was printed in those issues is nothing less than a complete and total dissection of the supposedly overwhelming methods of brainwashing in use, starting with comic books, then advertisers, then general-subject AND more narrow (such as hobby-specific) magazines, movies, and TV.

For crying out loud, MAD even lampooned one of their own advertisers ON THE FRONT COVER of the magazine (Issue #21, March 1955) https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/c0/3d/c2c03dcd59c809b962195cd7d4f168b1.jpg

Blogger awildgoose February 20, 2020 7:58 PM  

Akulkis wrote:Akuma, you NEVER saw what this country was like, nor felt the spirit of optimism and ability to conquer real problems before the Boomers destroyed all that. Those of us in Gen-X did. And the Boomers are absolutely aware that we're not only furious about it, but most of us would gladly mass-murder entire "retirement" communities save for the fact that life in prison or execution would just be a final lowpoint of a life in near constant decline caused by that locust generation.

I can faintly remember the early 80s in the US.

It was a totally different and better time and place.

Wait...scratch that.

It was like living in a totally different and better dimension, on a totally different and better planet.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey February 20, 2020 8:03 PM  

Boomers, you can still act. Turn your back on what has fouled your generation, and that is secular progressivism.

Go back to church, and even more importantly drag everybody you can with you. Your family, your friends, your colleagues, your neighbors. Do what you can to turn everybody you can away from secular progressivism.

Testify about how it has done you, your family, and your nation wrong.

That's my advice, FWIW. (And it doesn't even involve you giving up any material thing).

Blogger eldiabloloco February 20, 2020 8:07 PM  

urthshu wrote:>Generation CheetoeFingerRobespierre

Stopped reading right there.


Too accurate. Good to know.

Blogger Starboard February 20, 2020 8:15 PM  

Akulkis, I have read it. Iteresting stuff.

Blogger JD Cowan February 20, 2020 8:44 PM  

The best movie to explain the Boomer mindset is Pleasantville.

Blackpilled nailed it with his look at that satanic movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvSDIbikprY

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey February 20, 2020 8:53 PM  

GenX is a strange but strangely fitting name. It comes from a book, "Generation X", that nobody read. Still, nobody reads it (it might be out of print). GenX'ers are also called slakers, named after the movie, "Slacker", that nobody saw. Still, nobody has seen it (it might not even be digitized).

GenX'ers were told (by whom?) that this book and this film, both of which sank into the mist of history promptly upon publication, really do capture the spirit of the generation to such an exceptional degree that the whole generation should be named after them.

Boomer Books: "Catcher In The Rye" and counting. "The World According to Garp" was maybe the midpoint.

Boomer Movies: Where to begin? Where to end? I don't think last year's Beatles tribute movie will be the last, by a long shot.

GenX'ers were the M-TV generation. Yeah, about that.

They are a generation who came of age only to have the order of the ages overturned against them.

It's bad enough that the Boomers can't see that they have buried the generation of their own children in so many ways.

Edmund Burke was writing in his analysis of the French Revolution about the duty of those living to those yet to be born and ALSO to those who have died. Your average Boomer says, "WHAT?" They cannot grok this concept of duty to the dead, to the past, to HERITAGE.

No duty to the past, no duty to the future.

Never was a generation so aptly named as the Me-Generation. Except for perhaps GenX, which is named for a book that nobody read and a movie that nobody saw. Cast aside on "publication".

Dollars to donuts says there will be no GenX President of the United States. We're moving straight to Millennials. (If we make it that far -- kinda doubtful).

Blogger JAG February 20, 2020 8:55 PM  

I can faintly remember the early 80s in the US.

It was a totally different and better time and place.

Wait...scratch that.

It was like living in a totally different and better dimension, on a totally different and better planet.


That was the Berenstein timeline. It was far better than what we have now. The change happened somewhere around the summer of 1987.

Blogger Akulkis February 20, 2020 9:02 PM  

"I can faintly remember the early 80s in the US.
It was a totally different and better time and place.

Wait...scratch that.

It was like living in a totally different and better dimension, on a totally different and better planet."

And the 80's were NOTHING compared to the energy, optimism and unbridled building that was going on then. Back then, on a high point on I-75, in the vicinity of the Davidson Freeway, looking south, you could see the steam coming from hundreds, if not thousands of factories in the city.

By the 80's, nearly every project had been stiffled with massive amounts of faux-environmentalism redtape (Watermelons: Green on the outside, Commie Red on the inside), and already, the amount of visible steam rising above the city was declining as old plants were shuttered and nothing was ALLOWED to replace them.

Today, even in the middle of winter which makes it all show up so well, it's hard to find ANY signs of manufacturing activity in Detroit.

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