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Monday, March 30, 2020

Hungary leads the way

Viktor Orban has learned not to let a crisis go to waste:
The nationalist government in Hungary passed a law Monday granting sweeping emergency powers that Prime Minister Viktor Orban says are necessary to fight the coronavirus pandemic.

Those powers include sidelining parliament and giving Orban the power to rule by decree indefinitely. The law would punish those who spread false information about the pandemic with up to five years in prison.

"Changing our lives is now unavoidable," Orban told lawmakers last week. "Everyone has to leave their comfort zone. This law gives the government the power and means to defend Hungary."

During Monday's vote, he said: "When this emergency ends, we will give back all powers, without exception."

But critics insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power.
I should certainly hope so. By the time the pandemic is over, George Soros's agglomeration of Satanic Society organs should be no more. Now the God-Emperor should do likewise, declare martial law, and take the opportunity given to drain the damn Swamp dry.

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Blogger crescent wrench March 30, 2020 11:09 AM  

Meanwhile, nominally "American" firms like Twitter have openly declared China's "wumao" disinformation army exempt from its "disinformation" rules even as it sows mass confusion among the US populace.

I expect some event of mass outbreak or death will be required to give PR cover to Trump if he wishes to invoke the relevant constitutional clauses allowing suspension of the bill of rights to fight this.

Blogger Joeplanet March 30, 2020 11:11 AM  

Let it be so. The people have been prepared. Domestically and internationally. Unleash the storm. There will never be a better time.

Blogger The Cooler March 30, 2020 11:25 AM  

One of the greatest -- and yet infrequently mentioned -- benefits of Nationalism, is there are significantly fewer individuals the People have to kill in a Nationalist Power Structure, if and when that structure fails to meet it's obligations to the People.

It's just efficiently all the way down, y'all.

Blogger ChicagoRodent March 30, 2020 11:31 AM  

As with masks, we have a national supply shortage of tumbrils. Nobody knows how to sharpen a large blade anymore, we'll need to pay a consulting fee to the Japanese.

Blogger Shane Bradman March 30, 2020 11:40 AM  

The article should read, "But supporters insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power."

Blogger Salt March 30, 2020 11:46 AM  

It's risky, martial law, but given the state of the country, even without the Chan, it's either do the needfull or water the tree. But perhaps I repeat myself.

Blogger Grooveware March 30, 2020 11:47 AM  

I wish he ruled Scotland with an iron fist instead of the left wing SNP that want to drag Scotland back into the crumbling Eu. God Bless Viktor Orban

Blogger sd March 30, 2020 11:52 AM  

Let's hope then George Soros's Satanic organs are no more and then Soros ran out of cards to play after he play his last ones.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/soros_and_the_coronavirus_pandemic.html

Blogger Pseudotsuga March 30, 2020 11:53 AM  

I read that many Italians are making noises about leaving the EU, due to a lack of timely financial help. I wonder if they are serious or just trying to extort money via threats?

Blogger Oswald March 30, 2020 12:00 PM  

I smell a war a brewing.

Blogger Jeroth March 30, 2020 12:13 PM  

I never cared enough to look into Q, but per Vox's advice I downloaded Neon Revolt's book. Some of what he says is silly (first thing that made me roll my eyes was the claim that 94%+ of people are "teachable"), but from what I've read so far, the Q paradigm does seem to have the broad strokes of what is unfolding eerily correct. But what makes this most surreal is that the event causing it all to transpire is seemingly a completely random and unpredictable event.

Blogger Yossarian March 30, 2020 12:14 PM  

Duterte.

Blogger Oswald March 30, 2020 12:17 PM  

I had a teacher in school, use to say if you want to know the region of the next war, then start paying attention to the color we are painting our vehicles. I saw a video on youtube under martial law- tanks in oregon. The color is green.

Blogger Section 8A March 30, 2020 12:18 PM  

Orban is great. I could tell he was the real thing when the Corporate Media went bezerk at his border policies. The clips shown on youtube were fantastic, as the 'commentators' were shocked! and the comments were 99% pro Orban. Great stuff.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia March 30, 2020 12:27 PM  

VD wrote:

I should certainly hope so. By the time the pandemic is over, George Soros's agglomeration of Satanic Society organs should be no more. Now the God-Emperor should do likewise, declare martial law, and take the opportunity given to drain the damn Swamp dry.

Soros is a dead man walking already. He's already admitted it to the New York Times in that fawning magazine piece not too long ago.

Whether we go to martial law or not, the GE will emerge out of this pandemic stronger and more powerful than ever. Every day, no matter the course of events, the GE looks better and the swamp looks weaker. Like most crises, even the midwits and normies will see, "you know, our institutions and "betters" are not only corrupt, they're incompetent."

Recent case in point: the insistence by the moronic establishment that it was stupid for Trump to claim that the hydrochloroquine-azithromycin regimen might work and -- voila! -- it's now becoming an acceptable therapeutic course despite the absence of confirming double blind studies.

Declaring martial law might be more efficient, but I think there's something to be said for letting the Swamp creatures destroy themselves, even if it takes longer and there are bumps on the way.

That is the GE's greatest inherent power -- by his very existence, he makes them say stupid things, and act stupidly, to where it becomes obvious to almost everyone except the blind. The blind will always be with us.

It's the Sun Tzu approach -- let the enemy weaken or destroy himself. It will take longer, it will not be smooth, but it will be immensely satisfying.

Blogger Karen took the Kids March 30, 2020 12:38 PM  

He'd be stupid not to use this to his advantage and protect Hungarians indefinitely. God speed Viktor.

Blogger Richard Holmes March 30, 2020 12:48 PM  

Do we have a voluntary form of martial right now? If Trump declared martial law would the democrats beat him over his head until politically he would be immobilized? Damn, everything is so damned confusing from my perspective. I hope what Trump does is the right thing. But I suspect we won't be going back to the old normal ever again. We could be getting a whole new reality.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 30, 2020 12:57 PM  

Seeing what CBS is doing with hospital footage is criminal enough. If the media is not brought to account under this system, it will be brought under by a new system.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 30, 2020 1:08 PM  

Jeroth wrote:But what makes this most surreal is that the event causing it all to transpire is seemingly a completely random and unpredictable event.
It was always going to be something. What was coming was never obvious - I never would have guessed this - but it was obviously coming.
It's always something.

Blogger crescent wrench March 30, 2020 1:12 PM  

@18


We used to have laws banning propaganda against American civilians.
Even without invoking special constitutional clauses, we still have laws barring foreign agents acting on US soil.
The courts have ruled incitement of violence is not protected speech.


At the very least, basic financial forensics would find chi-com money going to these news orgs who could then be targated under FARA.

In the moderate approach, "incitement" could be used to arrest chief editors for events which have already occurred, such as the 40,000 strong riot CNN incited by calling a free speech event headlined by a hindi a "white supremacist rally" back in 2017.

Between various mass shootings, race riots, and antifa riots, the entire US media complex and a good half of big tech could be rolled up, but that requires an AG with a spine rather than a swamp rat like Barr.

Blogger Krymneth March 30, 2020 1:14 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia wrote:Whether we go to martial law or not, the GE will emerge out of this pandemic stronger and more powerful than ever.

The r/K model is looking better by the day. There's a lot of rabbits hoping the global pandemic can be turned to their advantage, but the idea is absurd.

The media still has the delusion they can somehow use this to bring Trump down and get rabbits elected this fall. Fat chance.

(If some desperate establishment/Cabal operative did deliberately start this as a last-ditch effort to bring down Trump, they have failed one of the most epic fails in history.)

Blogger freddie_mac March 30, 2020 1:47 PM  

Now the God-Emperor should do likewise, declare martial law, and take the opportunity given to drain the damn Swamp dry.

With the way things are going, Trump's letting the states back their way into ML and other things.

Case in point is his threat to quarantine NY/NJ/CT. While Cuomo blustered about how that was unconstitutional ('cause NYers have the constitutional right to spread disease!), Rhode Island, Florida, etc. have been instituting border check points & police are going door to door, targeting people from the tri-state area.

So, yeah -- Trump did back down from a federal quarantine, but look at those states doing exactly what he threatened.

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 30, 2020 1:58 PM  

By the time this is over, the borders should be so tight you need K-Y and a shoehorn to get anyone or anything through.

Blogger Doctor Mayhem March 30, 2020 2:17 PM  

Viktor Organ may have just made himself a full dictator you say?

Good.

DEATH TO DEMOCRACY! DEATH TO THE BOURGEOISIE!

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Blogger Silly but True March 30, 2020 2:24 PM  

FWIW, some health experts in Italy now believe Covid-19 infections there may predate Wuhan, believing that it may have actually originated in Italy’s traditional leatherworking communities like the inarguable Italian Lombardy families like the Lee’s and Pei Pei’s.

Also like the good Italians they were, these traditional Italians reserved as many as 800,000 masks, and other necessary epidemic-fighting gear shipping it from Italy to satellite locations in China like Wuhan.

Blogger Shimshon March 30, 2020 2:44 PM  

Impressive. Hitler had to renew the Enabling Act periodically. Orban will relinquish his power after the emergency is over. Are we now supposed to compare unliked despots to Orban now?

Blogger Akulkis March 30, 2020 2:44 PM  

"It's just efficiently all the way down, y'all."

And turtles. Lots of turtles.

Blogger Jay Will March 30, 2020 2:49 PM  

If Orban is going in hard like this that's the best sign I've seen.

Blogger TechieDude March 30, 2020 2:58 PM  

There are a lot of issues with Trump declaring martial law.

First, and biggest is the precedent. I'm not sure I want some commie democrat that gets into office to have the same power.

Second, he can't enforce it. My wife called and said they were going to have the NG enforce the stay at home mandate, it was of course a rumor. My response was how? How do they do that in a sprawling metroplex of 4M, even if the local gummint goes along? They don't have the troops to "Occupy" the US.

People here are mostly going about their business now, and many cities like Cincinnati so much as advertised that they aren't going to enforce laws. Some are cutting loose criminals as well.

Unless you are going to roll tanks and shoot on site, ain't.gonna.work.

And the first shot fired will start every one else shooting back next time.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 30, 2020 3:13 PM  

TechieDude wrote:First, and biggest is the precedent. I'm not sure I want some commie democrat that gets into office to have the same power.
Seriously? The only answer to this one is to keep commie democrats out of office, because they don't need precedent to oppress us. They WILL go there, whether we do or not.

Blogger Scuzzaman March 30, 2020 3:14 PM  

The usual suspects are howling about beer halls and brown shirts so I’m picking Orban’s done something sensible and necessary.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 30, 2020 3:20 PM  

TechieDude wrote:First, and biggest is the precedent. I'm not sure I want some commie democrat that gets into office to have the same power.
Where did you get the idea that they have ever or would ever wait for precedent?

Second, he can't enforce it. My wife called and said they were going to have the NG enforce the stay at home mandate, it was of course a rumor. My response was how? How do they do that in a sprawling metroplex of 4M, even if the local gummint goes along? They don't have the troops to "Occupy" the US.
Not a student of history then?

Blogger Oswald March 30, 2020 3:22 PM  

Trump is resisting as much as he can being made King. But a man only has so much resistance in him.

Blogger Haxo Angmark March 30, 2020 3:33 PM  

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Blogger Scott Alfter March 30, 2020 3:45 PM  

crescent wrench wrote:Meanwhile, nominally "American" firms like Twitter have openly declared China's "wumao" disinformation army exempt from its "disinformation" rules even as it sows mass confusion among the US populace.

...and on the gripping hand, Twatter is censoring the Brazilian president:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction2/comments/frrtei/twitter_censors_2_tweets_by_bolsonaro_for_rule/

Over/under on how much longer before they try going after Trump? Whatever timeframe you'd care to set, I would be inclined to take the under. The idiots who run Twatter are like the kid who keeps touching a hot stove and wondering why it burns.

Blogger Jack Amok March 30, 2020 3:46 PM  

First, and biggest is the precedent. I'm not sure I want some commie democrat that gets into office to have the same power.

Might as well ask if we approve of your wife's new boyfriend. Worrying about precedents is just just playing into the Left's hands. They count on us abiding by the rules while they break them whenever convenient.

The Right didn't set the precedent of using the courts to overturn popular legislation and impose progressive agenda items. The Right didn't set the precedent of using the IRS to target political opponents and the DOJ to spy on their campaigns.

Rise up! Throw off your bowties!

Blogger Sam Gem March 30, 2020 3:49 PM  

Trump now has at his disposal:

> TRILLIONS of DOLLARS

> ONE MILLION TROOPS

> NATIONAL EMERGENCY POWERS

If there is any time right for the Storm, it is now.

Look to Twitter: https://qmap.pub/read/55

Blogger Logos Bear aka vessel March 30, 2020 4:07 PM  

Oswald wrote:I smell a war a brewing.

War is already upon us.

Blogger crescent wrench March 30, 2020 4:56 PM  

Scott Alfter wrote:
Over/under on how much longer before they try going after Trump?



They already have.
a good half dozen media he's tweeted/retweeted have been censored.
90% of the supporters he retweets are banned.

The idea this goes unnoticed by someone is ludicrous.

It's clear the man doesn't consider twitter to be as big a priority as the journos who have been pushing this censorship.

That said, I suspect it will be treated seriously if wumao misinformation from twitter ends up killing numerous Americans.

Blogger Seeingsights March 30, 2020 5:04 PM  

On a related note, Russia's parliament voted to pass legislation that would allow Putin to run for two more terms as president.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/russias-parliament-opens-putin-power-2024/story?id=69504478

The only ones who seem to have a problem with it are globalists.

Blogger B March 30, 2020 5:14 PM  

Hungary is now essentially run by a one-party government. I see Orban as a Hungarian nationalist (a good thing). However, he is only human. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I hope he has the strength of character to ONLY act for the good of Hungary. That's a lot to ask of any human being. Pray for Hungary.

Blogger Nihil Dicit March 30, 2020 5:52 PM  

But critics insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power.

"That's we want to be doing!"

And the first shot fired will start every one else shooting back next time.

As you obviously know, most people are pussies, no matter how much they talk. They'll be lined up against the wall muttering "Keep this up and I'll get REALLY mad, just you wait!". The "authorities" gun people down on the regular, and the most that happens is some hashtag "activism".

Blogger Ransom Smith March 30, 2020 5:58 PM  

There are a lot of issues with Trump declaring martial law.
Unbunch thy panties.

Blogger Ingemar March 30, 2020 6:09 PM  

If Trump declares martial law, his crushing of all enemies has to be complete. No quarter. The left are masters of playing the long game so even the slightest shade of gray must be expunged.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 30, 2020 6:12 PM  

Martial law can happen here. I can see the leftists try to cancel the election and declare that there can be no President. Trump would have deserved the trouble though, for not already having them in prison orange.
What the leftist insurgency wants most is a civil war to erupt during the outbreak. They always project, even so on information they try to hide. For example the numbers on the Six Million don't readily add up in particular how they were gassed and burned. But something can kill that many people and more in that time frame: shortages brought on by conflict during outbreaks of disease. Even a lack of food amplifies the spread of disease. The insurgents have been very silent lately. Enough to make me worry. If they don't have a plan now, does not mean a think tank won't be coming up with one later.
Nevertheless, if there is going to be a power grab I can think of far worse people in office to do it. Trump is no saint but at the least he apparently does not have a thing for gulags.

Blogger Guy Incognito March 30, 2020 6:26 PM  

Can't when they're soaking wet.

Blogger Katechon March 30, 2020 6:37 PM  

>take the opportunity given to drain the damn Swamp dry
That would be glorious.

Blogger pnq87 March 30, 2020 6:37 PM  

Don't worry, if Orban becomes a nationalist dictator the United States and its allies stand ready to restore democracy. See WW2 and Serbia.

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 30, 2020 6:40 PM  

Over/under on how much longer before they try going after Trump?

Trump has something on Twitter. Either he has Jack's balls in a vice personally, or he's threatened to use the power of his office to crush them if they ever delete him. They try to limit his influence, but they don't shut him down, and there's no way they could have resisted this long otherwise.

Blogger Reader March 30, 2020 7:48 PM  

I am receiving texts from the Trump campaign asking for donations. The most recent was an offer of 4X-MATCH if I donate within the hour! I texted back:
I have a counter offer. I will donate $1000 for every swamp creature President Trump puts in prison, starting with Hillary Clinton.

Heh. Just indulging in fantasy. Still, it felt good to put that out there. I doubt anyone read it.

Blogger RC March 30, 2020 8:57 PM  

"Heh. Just indulging in fantasy. Still, it felt good to put that out there. I doubt anyone read it."

President Trump won't read it, but it'll get read by a campaign staffer or processed by computer and saved and reported on in some fashion. Engagement metrics are critical in winning campaigns. You also just demonstrated that your number is responsive.

Blogger TechieDude March 30, 2020 9:58 PM  

Senor Snidley - "Not a student of history then?"

DFW and it's suburbs is something like 10,000 square miles. Most of the populace armed.

Tell me how you hold that with the military we have. Then tell me how you replicate that in LA, NYC, Chicago, etc. With troops who have family in those cities? FFS, a lot of these cities the cops won't bother if they think they'll get infected.

You really think that the first time they cap some homer everyone will cower?

It'll be Belfast like back in the day, writ large.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 30, 2020 10:39 PM  

Don't underestimate the power of replying to those texts. They are in writing and an emerging pattern would get noticed.

Blogger MEGAMUS Maximus March 30, 2020 10:44 PM  

What rock have you lived under for the past decade?

You do realize that the US and its Allies, collectively, couldn't and technically cannot stop a small, unaligned African shit hole from becoming a Nationalist Dictatorship because of their arrogant invocations of International Law?

You do realize that they likely wouldn't because most of them are terrified of a potential war with Russia and China, who Hungary are close Allies with?

You do realize that, if America and its Allies declare war, then the first war front will be within the US and its Allies by Nationalists who see the opportunity to either break away or take back their nations?

2020 is a different beast from World War 2. If World War 2 played out now with the Allies having current years leaders, Axis wins.

Blogger Reader March 30, 2020 10:50 PM  

You also just demonstrated that your number is responsive.

I will donate to President Trump. I have no problem showing his campaign staff that my number is responsive.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 30, 2020 11:15 PM  

TechieDude wrote:DFW and it's suburbs is something like 10,000 square miles. Most of the populace armed. Tell me how you hold that with the military we have.
Moved goalposts. The question wasn't Dallas, but NYC and LA. Even Dallas, with the summary execution of say 20 or 30 people, would kneel.

Then tell me how you replicate that in LA, NYC, Chicago, etc. With troops who have family in those cities? FFS, a lot of these cities the cops won't bother if they think they'll get infected.
Both cities are literally populated by super-majorities of not-Americans. The Americans will leave, if they can, and the rest will hunker down and obey orders.

You really think that the first time they cap some homer everyone will cower?
Not everybody, but enough. Where was the armed revolt when the city of New Orleans decided to impose martial law during Katrina?
Most sub-populations are used to taking orders. Some enjoy it. The most likely form of resistance would be plain old riots, which can either be put down with automatic fire, or allowed to burn themselves out.

Blogger Macs March 31, 2020 12:30 AM  

It would be nice to have a just and wise king for a while, but I'd be satisfied with just eliminating term-limits.

Blogger John Rockwell March 31, 2020 1:55 AM  

Viktor Orban ascends the Throne. All hail the King.

Blogger weka March 31, 2020 2:12 AM  

Rope, tree, and a extra space for the lawyers. What else do you need?

Blogger weka March 31, 2020 2:18 AM  

What bit of the day of the rope do you not understand?

Blogger Silly but True March 31, 2020 2:26 AM  

Where was the armed revolt? We’re talking about the final 17,940 people of 490,000 rescued from rooftops: the very last bottom 4% of a majority black city whose population was 25% below poverty line, 27% didn’t own a car, 14% were disabled, and 25% suffered from a chronic disease.

The land whales rescued from the rooftops as their baby daddy looted the nearest store waist-deep in water for bare necessities like four cases of beer were surely revolting, though.

Blogger Sam Spade March 31, 2020 6:57 AM  

"Throughout history the realm for the most part
has been won by expedience [quan and bian] but kept by benevolence and
righteousness [ren and yi]." Romance of Three Kingdoms.

Blogger Tars Tarkas March 31, 2020 10:37 AM  

The Swamp is, unfortunately, deep and murky and sucks in everything around it!
There is so much evil in the stimulus. They have used it to fund all sorts of evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s3Gc00Dvrw

Blogger Dyspeptic March 31, 2020 2:35 PM  

If PDJT were to declare martial law his very first act should be arranging mass one way helicopter rides for journalists. He could even sell tickets for a pay per view event. I know I would tune in with gleeful delight.

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