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Thursday, March 19, 2020

Open borders is open disease

Australia is closing its borders, but it should have done so four weeks ago:
The Prime Minister has closed Australia's borders to prevent the spread of coronavirus. From 9pm on Friday night, only Australian permanent residents and citizens will be allowed to enter the country.

Scott Morrison said he made the drastic move because 80 per cent of Australia's 636 coronavirus cases have come in from abroad.

The ban, which has no end date, is likely to cause chaos for thousands of temporary residents who live and work in Australia, such as people on skilled work visas.

If they are overseas on holiday they have one day to return to their lives here. If they are in the country they cannot leave because they will not be able to come back.
Think about how much better off these countries would have been if they never permitted foreign invasions in the first place, and prioritized the well-being of their citizenries rather than sacrificing them at the altar of GDP. Whether the issue is bad government or disease, open borders and centralized governments are like building a ship without watertight compartments. It increases both the risks and the costs of anything going wrong.

Never forget that efficiency is a double-edged sword that always cuts both ways.

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59 Comments:

Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2020 8:05 AM  

It's not even the altar of GDP. It's the major stockholders even more crass altar of +N more Vacation Homes.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 19, 2020 8:08 AM  

"Save the economy and the New Class first!" Reading a Zerohedge blurb on the poor babies of the New Class not able to jet about the world, manpads would have been much more entertaining but corona-chan will suffice.

Blogger Iamblichus March 19, 2020 8:11 AM  

New lies fixing a previous lie. The Holocough fixing the open borders lie. The transgenders in wamins sports fixing the equality lie

Blogger James Dixon March 19, 2020 8:17 AM  

But the open borders folks will never give up, no matter how bad it gets: http://archive.vn/wip/cgSbM

Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2020 8:17 AM  

On that note, the US H1B visa law should be amended wait a provision that for every H1B worker, an employer must be paying for 2 US citizens to take whatever STEM degree the H1B has full ride scholarship -- with guaranteed hiring for the H1B's position for whichever of the two finishes first.

Faced with that, corporations would immediately find it advantageous to find suitable Americans and train them in-house in the handful of classes (or more typically -- ONE class)
needed for the American to have the required knowledge for that specific position.

Blogger Halvar Andersen March 19, 2020 8:20 AM  

"...to prevent the spread..." Has anyone told him?

One day to return. Who wants to bet that Australian airports won't look like the American airports did a few days ago when all those people come rushing back to beat the deadline? All that after spending the hours aboard the aircraft circulating everyone's farts and sneezes, packed all together in the airport to ensure a good high R0. Godspeed, heritage Australians.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 19, 2020 8:20 AM  

"Scott Morrison said he made the drastic move because 80 per cent of Australia's 636 coronavirus cases have come in from abroad."

Naw, 100% came from abroad. Some are just on their second victim since then.

Blogger Stilicho March 19, 2020 8:26 AM  

How dare they restrict the free movement of viruses!

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2020 8:34 AM  

What I don't understand is why Italy let a 100,000 Chinese workers in when their unemployment (and especially young adult unemployment) has been so endemically high.

Okay, sure, the Lombards sold their leather works to the Chinese. But that's a Lombard problem, not an Italy problem. So why sacrifice the nation's children's futures?

Blogger Homesteader March 19, 2020 8:37 AM  

A family has a house, a people have a nation.

Both, need outer walls, locking entries, and the ability of the inhabitants to determine who enters and remains.

Our descendants will wonder at our stupidity.

Blogger Matt March 19, 2020 8:44 AM  

The US closed the Canadian border, I'm assuming that the southern border will soon follow (I hope it stays shut!)

Blogger Balkan Yankee March 19, 2020 8:50 AM  

As Wall Street is now learning to its chagrin, efficiency is overrated as a virtue.

Because just-in-time delivery from overseas supply chains works for widgets and viruses alike.

Blogger I’ve Seen Things You People Wouldn’t Believe March 19, 2020 8:52 AM  

Sink the ships

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) March 19, 2020 9:09 AM  

1. Akulkis March 19, 2020 8:05 AM
It's not even the altar of GDP.


it's at least as much GDP as +N homes.

remember, the assumption by Economists is that population growth == economic growth. Economists don't differentiate between quality of populations or quality of spending ( ie - debt spending is just as good as asset spending, government spending is just as good as private spending ).

alternatively, given that the real purpose of unlimited immigration is the destruction of nations, extra homes has even less to do with unlimited immigration than GDP. because +N homes for the .01% is not overtly used as a public policy justification.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 19, 2020 9:13 AM  

"Never forget that efficiency is a double-edged sword that always cuts both ways."
The entire argument against OOP and frameworks.
*scurries out of the room

Blogger tdcommenter March 19, 2020 9:14 AM  

Years back, Microsoft integrated Internet Explorer with Windows to make it seamless. My first impression was that it make entry seamless for hackers, too.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz March 19, 2020 9:15 AM  

Meanwhile in Europe:

Since midnight 19 of March the Polsih-German border is protected by units of an armoured division... https://infogalactic.com/info/11th_Armoured_Cavalry_Division

Thinks are looking serious indeed.

Blogger aps March 19, 2020 9:19 AM  

"it should have done so four weeks ago"

I have heard a LOT of people saying this. Not the kind of people who frequent this blog either.

Blogger Stilicho March 19, 2020 9:20 AM  

The new bailout bugaloo is underway in DC. Every corporate welfare queen in the country is lining up to get a peice of the action. Again. Schumer has been positively giddy at the prospect of expanding usury at taxpayer expense. warren Buffet has more hands out than that weird indian god. Boomers are complaining about socialism while demanding their 401k's be made whole (I guess this gives them another excuse not to retire... some of them are already trying to pass as Gen X).

Only significant difference from other bailouts I see at this point is that Bush/Obama wanted to save crony capitalism while Trump wants to save America, so some of the money may trickle down to actual Americans this time. We shall see. In the meantime, keep building that wall and increase tariffs on foreign goods and services.

Blogger Bucephalus March 19, 2020 9:24 AM  

How much of Italy does China own?

Blogger Oswald March 19, 2020 9:26 AM  

Yeah, but even if they had closed their borders to immigrants wouldn't they have still let the rich Chinese tourists in? Their greed would have still got them.

Blogger 351wsl March 19, 2020 9:39 AM  

"Because just-in-time delivery from overseas supply chains works for widgets and viruses alike."

Perfect quote. Permission to use?

Blogger Brett baker March 19, 2020 9:40 AM  

+1

Blogger Brett baker March 19, 2020 9:41 AM  

More like shoot down the planes.

Blogger Unknown March 19, 2020 10:02 AM  

Maybe my dream of buying a home to live in with my savings is coming true.

Blogger maniacprovost March 19, 2020 10:06 AM  

just-in-time delivery from overseas supply chains

That's an oxymoron

Blogger JamesB.BKK March 19, 2020 10:21 AM  

Some countries require 3-7 local hires for every expat work permit. They're usually not controlled by chamber of commerce types though.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) March 19, 2020 10:55 AM  

24. Brett baker March 19, 2020 9:41 AM
More like shoot down the planes.



just don't shoot down the helicopters, we need those.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) March 19, 2020 11:02 AM  

26. maniacprovost March 19, 2020 10:06 AM
That's an oxymoron



MBA is an oxymoron.

Blogger Scuzzaman March 19, 2020 11:24 AM  

How much of Italy does China own?

Far too much, old horse. Far too much.

It's interesting how NZ has an ostensibly left-wing prime minister and Aussie has an ostensibly right-wing prime minister and both of them were slow to respond and then panicked and slammed down the hatches. Both fundamentally globalists, of course. The old categories are not much use these days.

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 19, 2020 11:28 AM  

This will be posted in DaLimbraw Library to join what was posted on March 19, 2016 - "Migration, war, and the military historian - Max Hastings at dailymail with comments by Vox Day
Those who doubt my observations on the subject, and fail to credit Martin van Creveld's similar warnings, would do well to heed popular military historian Max Hasting's similar warnings on the subject of war and the mass migration crisis:

Could this lead to WAR in Europe?

Last week in Washington, I met an old friend who is one of the smartest strategy wonks I know. His business is crystal ball-gazing. During our conversation, he offered some speculations about what could happen to our world over the next decade or two which made my hair stand on end."
You can read the rest I'm sure at archive here at Vox Popoli.
My point - while we focused on mass migrations leading to war, we are being blindsided by disease - either or both, because wars often are accompanied by disease and vice versa.
All boils down to our lack of understanding God and/or history.
Stupid is as stupid does? Yes!
BUT - who benefits - before the calamities? That's another topic, eh?

Blogger Up from the pond March 19, 2020 11:36 AM  

Restricting the free movement of viruses is xenophobic, mean, anti-democratic, economically illiterate - and above all, anti-Semitic!

Blogger Up from the pond March 19, 2020 11:43 AM  

>>"some of the money may trickle down to actual Americans this time."

Won't happen. Schumer is opposing Donald Dollars. His alternative, announced just the other day: "We might ALLOW you to APPLY for a low-interest LOAN." Grabblers just can't help themselves. Which has certain implications.

Blogger Jack Amok March 19, 2020 11:57 AM  

The outbreak in Seattle is tied directly to one guy who flew home to visit his family in Wuhan over the Christmas/New Year's break. He landed at Sea-Tac Jan 15th, walked through the airport, took public transportation home, and a week later was in the hospital with Wuhan Flu. A week after that, the first 911 calls for respiratory distress started coming from the Life Care nursing home.

Blogger Unknown March 19, 2020 11:58 AM  

I did kinda wonder why we only closed the northern border.

Blogger Jack Amok March 19, 2020 12:05 PM  

the US H1B visa law should be amended

No, just end it. E, L and O visas should be enough. Maybe in a few decades, we could reconsider H visas.

Blogger Pratisara March 19, 2020 12:06 PM  

https://hbr.org/2019/01/rethinking-efficiency

Everything is a function of time. What is efficient in the short term is usually not in the long term.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 19, 2020 12:41 PM  

Why pick the dramatic? Simply slash the tires of the planes. They cannot resupply tires in a global shut-down. Do it enough times, for enough airplanes, they cannot fly out, cannot fly in.

When that is a problem, disable gear. Broken down wagons cannot transport settlers into Indian territory, you know? You can disable the wheels, without killing the settlers or the ox or horses pulling the wagons.

And, more to the point, the maintenance workers are likely K selected, blue collar and nationalist, than the sort of person who thinks shooting down and airplane full of human beings is a good idea. And, well, getting one's hands on the sort of munitions that can bring down planes. Cartels have that sort of equipment. Normal, law-abiding Englishmen (Australian, American) do not.

Blogger MNW March 19, 2020 12:54 PM  

Sounds like a good start.

Or just stop the corrupt practice altogether.

Blogger eclecticme March 19, 2020 12:58 PM  

NN Taleb wrote that the economy is hyperoptimized and fragile. If he needed an example this is it.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants March 19, 2020 1:29 PM  

Because sinking loaded boats and planes sends a message that jabbing tires and sinking empty rafts doesn't.

Blogger Dr Caveman March 19, 2020 2:28 PM  

Meanwhile, Asia is facing a second wave of infections, driven almost completely by imported cases.

All the more reason to close the borders and keep them closed

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51955931

Blogger Dyspeptic March 19, 2020 3:15 PM  

The real problem with Wuhan Virus isn't the pathogen itself, it's the MSM created mass hysteria. As a former libertardian I still clung to the desperately stupid notion of free speech. Not anymore. Notwithstanding the side benefits of this concocted panic the economic damage is severe and far greater than what is justified by the virus itself. If there were anything resembling a justice system in this pathetic country news media executives like Jeff Zucker and David Rhodes would be tried and convicted by military tribunals and then publicly executed and their carcasses made available for public defilement.

Blogger Jack Amok March 19, 2020 3:19 PM  

I did kinda wonder why we only closed the northern border.

More Chinese in Canada than Mexico.

Blogger Dole March 19, 2020 4:12 PM  

Good move, they have started healing from the disease.

Open borders are a much worse more devastating disease than the virus.

Blogger Avalanche March 19, 2020 4:41 PM  

@44 "I did kinda wonder why we only closed the northern border."

Plus "we" pretend the southern border IS closed...

Blogger VFM #7634 March 19, 2020 5:09 PM  

Meanwhile, Asia is facing a second wave of infections, driven almost completely by imported cases.

Yup... both South Korea and Singapore were getting over the first wave of infections, but now new cases are soaring again in both countries.

Blogger papabear March 19, 2020 5:35 PM  

That is USURY.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 19, 2020 5:54 PM  

Dole wrote:Open borders are a much worse more devastating disease than the virus.
Corona-chan special: Open borders, now with 100% more virus, FREE!!!1!

Blogger Unknown March 19, 2020 6:12 PM  

I am very disappointed at the statistics from China. I hoped for so much more.

Blogger Karen took the Kids March 19, 2020 6:15 PM  

On the bright side I haven't seen Greta Thunbergs sperg head in weeks. Thank you corona-chan.

Blogger SirHamster March 19, 2020 7:15 PM  

> Never forget that efficiency is a double-edged sword that always cuts both ways.

Efficiency means non-redundant means fragility.

Our tower of efficient systems is being stress-tested and found wanting.

Blogger Up from the pond March 19, 2020 7:46 PM  

Someone else has his panties in a twist about his 401k. How cute.

I would rather not be lied to, but you do you.

Blogger Zaklog the Great March 19, 2020 8:14 PM  

@37 What is efficient in the short term is usually not in the long term.

From Roy H. Williams, the Wizard of Ads, "Anything that works quickly and easily has a tendency to work less and less well over time."

Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2020 10:17 PM  

"manpads would have been much more entertaining but corona-chan will suffice."

Having been MANPADS qualified back in the early 1990s, I heartily concur.

Blogger Pathfinderlight March 20, 2020 12:51 AM  

And now we know why all of the elites were panicking at the beginning of the year. They knew through their info network that the plague was coming then all packed it off to NZ. I hope Trump strips them of their US citizenship and disinvites them back once this is all over.

Blogger nswhorse March 20, 2020 9:29 AM  

Just read that Education Queensland is threatening parents who keep their children home with referral to the police. In case anyone needed a reminder that public education is not about your children, but about the elite and their designs for your children.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 20, 2020 11:04 AM  

SciVo wrote:What I don't understand is why Italy let a 100,000 Chinese workers in when their unemployment (and especially young adult unemployment) has been so endemically high.
If it were America, I would say it's because the political-leadership has zero loyalty to the actual citizenry.

Matt wrote:The US closed the Canadian border, I'm assuming that the southern border will soon follow (I hope it stays shut!)
At this point I would be unsurprised of Congress refuses, claiming that they need landscapers and housekeepers…

I’ve Seen Things You People Wouldn’t Believe wrote:Sink the ships
And A-10 the caravans.

Stilicho wrote:The new bailout bugaloo is underway in DC. Every corporate welfare queen in the country is lining up to get a piece of the action. Again.
If I were the President, my response would be: "I've been telling you for three years to move your manufacturing to the US, you didn't listen, you get NOTHING!"

Akulkis wrote:"manpads would have been much more entertaining but corona-chan will suffice."

Having been MANPADS qualified back in the early 1990s, I heartily concur.

I have a fondness for the 155mm High-explosive round of the M-109, myself.

Blogger eclecticme March 20, 2020 6:45 PM  

@37 What is efficient in the short term is usually not in the long term.
Analysts often discard the massive negative data points.
NN Taleb said that in the long term banking did not make money because the rare but huge crashes wiped out the gains. The banksters made money off the froth but never had to pay back the losses when the system crashed.

Importing large numbers of cheap Chinese leathergoods labor worked in the short term for Italy. How is that working out now?

Squeezing every last cent out of the supply chain was efficient. So was importing cheap labor. How is that working out now? Do we get to put this economic crash in the negative column or toss out this data point?

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