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Sunday, May 17, 2020

Covid-19 made by men, for men

With the "bat soup" story discredited, the "wet market" theory disproven, it's only a matter of time before the "leap from animals" narrative is blown apart as well:
A team of Australian scientists has produced new evidence that the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is optimized for penetration into human cells rather than animal cells, undermining the theory that the virus randomly evolved in an animal subject before passing into human beings, and suggesting instead that it was developed in a laboratory.

The study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, provides new but not yet conclusive evidence favoring the theory that the novel coronavirus originated not in a food market as has been claimed, but rather in a laboratory, presumably one operated by the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, the city in which the first outbreak of COVID-19 occurred in December of 2019.

The lead researcher on the team says that the results represent either “a remarkable coincidence or a sign of human intervention” in the creation of the virus.

The authors of the study, led by vaccine researcher Nikolai Petrovsky of Flinders University in Australia, used a version of the novel coronavirus collected in the earliest days of the outbreak and applied computer models to test its capacity to bind to certain cell receptor enzymes, called “ACE2,” that allow the virus to infect human and animal cells to varying degrees of efficacy.

They tested the propensity of the COVID-19 virus’s spike protein, which it uses to enter cells, to bind to the human type of ACE2 as well as to many different animal versions of ACE2, and found that the novel coronavirus most powerfully binds with human ACE2, and with variously lesser degrees of effectiveness with animal versions of the receptor.

According to the study’s authors, this implies that the virus that causes COVID-19 did not come from an animal intermediary, but became specialized for human cell penetration by living previously in human cells, quite possibly in a laboratory.
As I've said from the start, this coronavirus was obviously a lab-produced bioweapon. The only questions that remain are a) who developed it, b) who released it, and c) against whom?

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79 Comments:

Blogger Salt May 17, 2020 8:31 AM  

"A strange comic book that was commissioned for publication by the European Union in 2012 eerily predicted almost exactly what has unfolded with the Covid-19 global pandemic. However, in this propaganda laced presentation of the outbreak, unelected globalist bureaucrats save the planet."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bizarre-eu-funded-comic-book-predicted-pandemic-globalists-saviours

Blogger brbrophy May 17, 2020 8:32 AM  

I still think the virus naturally developed in humans in an attempt to respond to mass amounts of air pollution. The posted description fits this theory too.

Blogger Dole May 17, 2020 8:34 AM  

I didn't even know there was a "leap from animals" theory. The narrative is mutating faster than the virus.

Blogger Weak May 17, 2020 8:36 AM  

And fourth follow up question, what else do they have in that lab?

Was this their first attempt, like a rough draft? Or was this their best shot?

Blogger Wazdakka May 17, 2020 8:49 AM  

Are you discounting that it may have been an accident?
If the Chinese aren't screeching "blue murder" does that not indicate that they at least have some idea of its origin?

Blogger Nihil Dicit May 17, 2020 8:52 AM  

a) Callous idiots
b) Evil idiots
c) Hysterical idiots

Blogger VD May 17, 2020 8:55 AM  

I still think the virus naturally developed in humans in an attempt to respond to mass amounts of air pollution.

You're wrong.

Blogger SaltHarvest May 17, 2020 9:00 AM  

It would not be a surprise if a bioweapon, like explosives, blew up in the faces of those who carelessly employed it.

Blogger CM May 17, 2020 9:07 AM  

My pet theory is it was in the flu vaccine.

I am readily aware how big a conspiracy theory that is and it's the only one I think I've embraced that might make me even a smidge loony (because seth rich and pizzagate shouldn't be that absurd and aren't complete misnomer in the world history of elites).

A corporation developing vaccines with a pathogen to create a fake pandemic to increase demand for questionable vaccines or more authoritarian control just seems bonkers.

But I still think it.

Blogger Balkan Yankee May 17, 2020 9:22 AM  

U.S. Secretary of State Pompeo visited Israel last week, now this: Chinese ambassador to Israel found dead in Herzliya home

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/chinese-ambassador-to-israel-found-dead-in-hertzliya-home-report-628299?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Chinese+ambassador+to+Israel+found+dead+in+Herzliya+home&utm_campaign=May+17+Day

Blogger Jim May 17, 2020 9:42 AM  

Still betting on Chinese incompetence. The response, while opportunistic, has also been bumbling, requiring whoever would have intentionally done so to have used underwear gnome logic in their planning.

But, it's not like that's unprecedented, so that doesn't rule out the attack theory. I just think it's less likely.

Blogger Gettimothy May 17, 2020 9:42 AM  

Notice how globalism multiplies the network trap.

An example was NPR having expert A from The organization for improving everything and then expert B from the organization of only preserving some things now.

Now corrupt FBI can originate a hit using 5 eyes overseas. Common corruption, global nodes.

Similarly, biowarfare originates everywhere in the network.

Welcome to International Communism war.

Blogger JC May 17, 2020 9:47 AM  

Whenever we discuss things like this people have to get past the idea that their are elites that know exactly what they are doing at all times and that all outcomes are as they intended. This may have been an accident or it may have been deliberately released for a specific purpose. If the latter, it may or may not be working as intended. If the former, it may have been thought a good opportunity to move forward plans they had ready.

I think more and more events have demonstrated that Vox is right that whatever the truth is, it isn't the official story.

Blogger ZhukovG May 17, 2020 10:01 AM  

So, increasingly the evidence points to a bioweapon. The 'who' and 'whom' remain unanswered, but there are clues.

I suspect it is a number of factions acting in cooperation. A cabal of Globalist/Trotskyist/Maoist/Zionist groups.

I suspect also that the virus is merely an accelerant, intended to drive the world towards another global war. The goal of which, would be the destruction of nations and establishment of a centralized global government.

Blogger TruthsGotMyBack May 17, 2020 10:05 AM  

Everything about the Chinese ‘origin story’ is bullshit. Remember the 24 hour hospitals with 50 excavators working the same site? Remember the people falling and bleeding out on the streets? Remember the people having their front doors nailed shut? All fake news.

Remember back to the week of March 11. All the media went all covid all the time. All Hollywood was shuttered. All sports leagues were shuttered. All western governments were reading from the same playbook. Who has the power to coordinate all of that?? Hint... it ain’t China. Who owns the People’s Bank of China?? Look there...

Blogger TruthsGotMyBack May 17, 2020 10:05 AM  

Everything about the Chinese ‘origin story’ is bullshit. Remember the 24 hour hospitals with 50 excavators working the same site? Remember the people falling and bleeding out on the streets? Remember the people having their front doors nailed shut? All fake news.

Remember back to the week of March 11. All the media went all covid all the time. All Hollywood was shuttered. All sports leagues were shuttered. All western governments were reading from the same playbook. Who has the power to coordinate all of that?? Hint... it ain’t China. Who owns the People’s Bank of China?? Look there...

Blogger :^) May 17, 2020 10:10 AM  

Forza Italia!

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/italian-politician-demands-bill-gates-arrest-crimes-against-humanity

Blogger Unknown May 17, 2020 10:16 AM  

I heard a theory floated when this whole pandemic started:

COVID-19 was an accidentally released half finished vaccine for other sorts of cornoavirus being worked on in the Wuhan lab, designed to penetrate human cells but with the actual vaccine part of the RNA not inserted yet.

That lab in Wuhan is known to have leaked viral material several times before.

Blogger rikjames.313 May 17, 2020 10:17 AM  

Or...my completely uninformed theory--

The Canada lab was working on this family of corona type virus. They accidentally tweaked it into something really nasty. The Thousand Talents spy ring stole the virus and Canada figured it out after.

China was doing something with it at their level 4 lab ---maybe tweaking it to kill natives in Africa. It got out, but was a little less deadly in real life than it was in the Canada lab, except for some reason it killed a lot of Chinese in Wuhan and Italy.

My reasons: the course of the media story, living near one of the main Thousand spy rings in Ann Arbor/Metro Detroit, teaching undergrad and knowing Chinese faculty are great at copying other people's work but not good at actually doing original work, the way the Chinavirus tore through blacks in Detroit.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 17, 2020 10:17 AM  

It was developed in a Canadian lab, sent to the Wuhan lab, and probably released accidentally by a female technician who didn't follow proper safety protocols.

The Chinese government, not wanting a good crisis to go to waste, decided to unleash it on the US and Western civilization in an attempt to further dominate the world. That is why they closed down Wuhan, but left the Wuhan international airport open.

That's the official story I've gathered from various news sources anyway.

Personally, I may have been infected with COVID-19 back in early December, before anyone really knew about. I had a very high fever for a few days, serious lung issues that were diagnosed as bronchitis but antibiotics largely failed to have any effect, and tested negative for the Flu at the time.

I can't confirm that it was Wuhan Flu, but it would not surprise me in the least.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2020 10:19 AM  

On the upside, it's impossible for there to be a second wave of this thing, for two reasons:

1) The entirety of the population having herd immunity isn't necessary -- rather, just the population in major transmission hubs like New York City. Which will be getting it anyway even with current trends. It's also why Chicago and DC are getting hit with it now -- they're the last major transmission hubs in the country, and weren't really hit much back in March and early April. Once they're through with it, with all the major hubs' population now immune, for the virus it would be like having its major Gardens of Eden replaced with radioactive no-go wastelands, or trying to fly across country without an airport.

2) Furthermore, anti-covid antibodies appear to be more powerful than antibodies to other coronaviruses that cause colds, since they confer long-lasting immunity to other coronaviruses whereas the reverse is only true for maybe six months. This would suggest that mutating enough to evade these antibodies is most likely beyond the ability of this virus.

3) Warm, sunny weather also helps, in line with the finding that sunshine kills the virus. It's why Australia didn't get hit seriously, or why Florida, Texas, and California haven't had the problems New York has had. Or OTOH why chilly, cloudy Russia is the last major happy hunting grounds for the virus right now. But concerns about the fall can be allayed because of reasons 1 and 2 above.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 17, 2020 10:27 AM  

My pet WAG is that some bunch of dopes from Chinese dopes to Harvard scam artists wanted a corona virus vaccine and someone dropped a test tube of live virus and here we are.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 17, 2020 10:44 AM  

It's a deep state op. And they don't even have a specific plan beyond "stop Trump".

Blogger xevious2030 May 17, 2020 11:13 AM  

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Blogger xevious2030 May 17, 2020 11:17 AM  

“I still think the virus naturally developed in humans”

You need to read, and reread this (Q post) until your eyes bleed. Not because you were wrong (which you are), but to let it sink in what has blead done to you, to all of us.

Q reference post# 4045 [No9000629] "[...] What National/Global impact immediately occurs re: [intel assessment] the virus was [intentionally] released [in coordination w/ [CLAS 1-99]?
How do you prevent a war? [...]"

We have, in our situation, all the hallmarks of a world war, except sides providing explicit blame and counter blame, movement of peoples, and death occurring by individual malicious intent (generally, conventional armies). Aside for these, the psychological trauma, the denials of until now common niceties and daily structure, and the preparing of peoples for coordinated offensive and defensive strategies activities, are present.

The bad guys were supposed to have global control of nukes, which would let them provide conventional war without threat of real natural war. With localities still in control of their nukes, the risk of eventual MAD becomes too great. Psychologically (action-reaction-direction), there are still cycles globalist DS types have planned, including the scheduling of wars. Big raise of hands of who believes the natural beginning of WW I, WW II, Vietnam? That in WW I & II, certain parties/families did not have factories on both sides, both allowed to operate, making tons of money, by people on both sides ripping each other apart? That these are on a schedule is one tiny step more. And there being picked winners and losers.

We have a world war, at a time and situation where world wars can not be fought. For the purposes of weaving a narrative of the future. With the one difference being, that unlike the recent century, the globalists do not have effective sole control. That is the context of the virus, not nature, aside from the Satanic "nature" of the globalists.

Blogger Gregory the Tall May 17, 2020 11:21 AM  

a) who developed it? x
b) who released it? x
c) against whom?
D = everybody\{x}

Blogger Pencil Maestro May 17, 2020 11:27 AM  

It's coomon cold.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 17, 2020 11:35 AM  

Dole wrote:I didn't even know there was a "leap from animals" theory.
It had to be an underlying assumption of the bat soup and wet market theories: the virus came from critters to the wet market or the bat soup.
CM wrote:My pet theory is it was in the flu vaccine.
Then patient zero for each outbreak would have had a flu shot shortly before he became infectious. Should be a testable hypothesis, except those who should test it would be the ones responsible for doing it, if it were true.

Blogger Unknown May 17, 2020 11:43 AM  

Dr. Chris Martenson of the Peak Prosperity podcast has show pretty solid evidence that this virus was intentionally modified, and that Fauchi and the CDC seem to have funded the work in Wuhan with our tax dollars.

Martenson is a bit of a normie and seems to think this is a case of scientific hubris and inadvertent release.

I think the bioweapon hypothesis makes more sense. I've read Psalm 2, and believe it accurately describes much that goes on in the world.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 17, 2020 11:44 AM  

I didn't even know there was a "leap from animals" theory.

That was the media narrative early on, before it got to the US. There were articles in science journals supposedly discrediting any possible lab origin. I don't know how much they're still actively pushing that idea, but Youtube is erasing at least some of the alternatives.

I think a lot of people don't understand that a lab in China and a lab in the US (or Canada) have more ties and allegiances to each other and institutions like the CDC and WHO than they do to the nations they happen to be stationed in, or their governments. So a bioweapon being developed in a Wuhan lab isn't necessarily a Chinese project; it could as easily be a CIA/Mossad project. Odds are it's a mix anyway: started in the West and then moved to China where they could keep it more out of the public eye.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't call it the "Chinese virus" or Wuflu and use that to drive home the point that we need to shut down borders and trade, because whodunnit is irrelevant to that. If we proved China was innocent, then what, keep manufacturing our medicines and other necessities there? The problem isn't that other countries may develop dangerous bugs; that's inevitable. The problem is that we had our doors and windows open to let it in, and when Trump tried to close them, the globalist establishment all fought him and called that racist.

Blogger z May 17, 2020 11:52 AM  

Covid is a DeepState fourth quarter Hail Mary pass. The DeepState may have collaborated with someone else to bring covid to fruition, perhaps a non-profit (Gates, Rockefeller) or even elements of NeoCons/Likudniks-in-the-Mossad, or some other group, but Im satisfied that it was them. The gloating over how many in the Iranian leadership fell sick with covid early on was a tell. That geographically happened a little early. Iran should have been ill later than what it was. The chronology there smells.

The Mockingbird Media/DeepState has thrown the kitchen sink at Trump for 3 years: Spy Hoaxes, Special Prosecutors, endless "offended" people. None of it has swayed the Deplorables. Trump is the lead horse for other nationalist sentiment manifestations throughout the West: Bolsonaro, Duterte, Brexit, Golden Dawn, Catalan, Orban, Poland, Putin. The people of the West are increasing rejecting Globo-Homo, labor-arbitrage, immivasion and demographic replacement, and identity politics. They want to bring the Big Orange Horse down as a symbol of their inevitableness. It will be the the ugliest election ever. They are going to .pull out all the stops

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 17, 2020 12:03 PM  

"I still think the virus naturally developed in humans in an attempt to respond to mass amounts of air pollution."

This is either sarcasm or mental infirmity.

"On the upside, it's impossible for there to be a second wave of this thing, for two reasons:"

The bad news: The test kits don't discriminate between coronaviroids, so when almost inevitably there's another one going around it'll automatically be dubbed the second wave. These assholes are already gearing up to claim that nCov19 is a season unending after they got a taste of what they could make people do with the scare of it. They're en-masse pretending that it's still going to be a major problem NEXT YEAR IF NOT LONGER.

The day of the rope is fast approaching.

Blogger MichaelJMaier May 17, 2020 12:03 PM  

This study is, quite obviously, wrong.

Is hasn't been peer-reviewed.

You should feel bad for sharing it.

Blogger Avalanche May 17, 2020 12:18 PM  

@17

I see your 'arrest bill gates-of-hell' Italian and raise you a 'crying-immigrant-mommy.'


The Italian Minister of Agriculture Theresa #Bellanova threatened to resign if her proposed law, legalizing 600 000 African illegal migrants working in the agricultural sector didn't pass
Today, #M5S caved & Bellanova cried from joy as she signed the law
https://twitter.com/BasedPoland/status/1260689737347665922

Blogger kurt9 May 17, 2020 12:19 PM  

I believe the ACE2 receptor that allows the virus to enter human cells exists in great abundance in the human testes. I wonder how SARS-CoV-2 will affect human fertility in the next few years.

Blogger By My Greybeard! May 17, 2020 12:28 PM  

I wonder if perhaps c-19's purpose is to "train a response" in the US citizenry, and to a lesser extent other populations.

If One desired to maximize effect of a virus, first release one and overblow its lethality; *comically* overblow the ease of transmitiom, the kill rate, etc.

Then have fellow travellers lockdown the population beyond all reason, make stupid "social distancing" rules, silly cloth masks, and every other thing that is effectively "crying wolf" to discredit responses to a pandemic.

THEN, next flu season, release the *real* killer virus.

Response will be slow b/c ppl would resist the precautions 2nd time around; afraid of being fooled into putting their lives into stasis again over a nothing pandemic.

Blogger Latigo3 May 17, 2020 12:32 PM  

12 Monkeys

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2020 12:34 PM  

The bad news: The test kits don't discriminate between coronaviroids, so when almost inevitably there's another one going around it'll automatically be dubbed the second wave. These assholes are already gearing up to claim that nCov19 is a season unending after they got a taste of what they could make people do with the scare of it. They're en-masse pretending that it's still going to be a major problem NEXT YEAR IF NOT LONGER.

Anti-covid antibodies being able to confer immunity to other betacoronaviruses will hopefully kill that aspect of their plans, unless they have an alphacoronavirus ready to release that's as bad or worse than covid.

Blogger Gettimothy May 17, 2020 12:39 PM  

"This study is, quite obviously, wrong.

Is hasn't been peer-reviewed.

You should feel bad for sharing it."

No peer review is a hallmark of unstable minds with dark and perverse urges.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2020 12:44 PM  

I believe the ACE2 receptor that allows the virus to enter human cells exists in great abundance in the human testes. I wonder how SARS-CoV-2 will affect human fertility in the next few years.

Look on the upside: fewer Democrat babies.

Blogger CM May 17, 2020 12:55 PM  

Then patient zero for each outbreak would have had a flu shot shortly before he became infectious. Should be a testable hypothesis, except those who should test it would be the ones responsible for doing it, if it were true.

Right. I don't think we're likely to get there except by crack pot anti-vaxxers that will be dismissed and imprisoned for spreading misinformation. But so far the theory seems to be holding up.

Epidemiologists have seen really low transmission rates that are completely at odds with how many were infected so quickly. The theory also isn't against a transmission rate, but does explain how so many got it so rapidly without much new transmission happening.

It also makes sense that most of the population that has been so sick has been the most likely to get vaccines, especially in nursing homes.

Also, the symptoms sound a lot like the symptoms from failed coronavirus vaccines in animal tests - lung damage and cytokine storm.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 17, 2020 12:56 PM  

"I wonder how SARS-CoV-2 will affect human fertility in the next few years."

Bill Gates is your man to ask, that's his fetish. Think he's brazen enough not to lie?

Blogger James Dixon May 17, 2020 1:29 PM  

The best analysis I've read is this one: https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/03/19/china-owns-nature-magazines-ass-debunking-the-proximal-origin-of-sars-cov-2-claiming-covid-19-wasnt-from-a-lab/

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia May 17, 2020 1:39 PM  

Jim wrote:Still betting on Chinese incompetence. The response, while opportunistic, has also been bumbling, requiring whoever would have intentionally done so to have used underwear gnome logic in their planning.

But, it's not like that's unprecedented, so that doesn't rule out the attack theory. I just think it's less likely.


Agreed.

Vox is naturally suspicious of all these entities since so many of their actions are redolent of malevolence--and it's certainly justified.

I think it's eventually going to come out that Western researchers and academics were in cahoots with the Wuhan lab, letting it do the dangerous research that could never happen here, except in military facilities.

The reason? Vaccine development.

So if the Chinese figure out how to deal with crazy zoonotic viruses (remember AIDs started with bushmeat eaters who had a taste for chimp meat)or, even better, engineered viruses that are multiples worse than naturally occurring ones, then the "standard" buggers would be easy.

And the Chicom party was all in because bioweapon development is an added bonus to this otherwise "legitimate" scientific activity whose main purpose is to help pave the way to a Chinese pharma industry.

But it got out of hand. The people running the lab are incompetent, the virus escapes, the Chinese themselves have really no idea how the thing really works once in the world -- an idea of its virulence perhaps, but basically guesses about how transmissible it is.

So they try to cover up, see if they can contain it, they can't, it goes global.

The idea of great vast conspiratorial networks cooking up a global disaster, organized by some Dr. No, or Smersh-like organization, makes for brain killing trash movies and bad spy novels, but never discount incompetence and stupidity as the driving force.

Blogger Weak May 17, 2020 1:49 PM  

"This study is, quite obviously, wrong.

Is hasn't been peer-reviewed.

You should feel bad for sharing it."


Tremendous. Now this is how you write a joke. Set up, turn, punchline. All delivered tightly. Well done.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2020 2:15 PM  

Tremendous. Now this is how you write a joke. Set up, turn, punchline. All delivered tightly. Well done.

I did chuckle at MichaelJMaier's joke. But considering it goes against The Narrative, the research is probably more reliable.

Blogger eclecticmn May 17, 2020 2:18 PM  

I came across this article. Very long, detailed, and over my head.

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748
Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research Yuri Deigin Apr 22 · 64 min read

Blogger Martin Marprelate May 17, 2020 2:36 PM  

This makes me physically ill.

Blogger MidnightSun May 17, 2020 2:36 PM  

Sini Bavari, Iranian national, was director of the Level 4 Lab at Ft Detrick, Md. In August 2019 the aforementioned lab was shut down due to a breach in protocol. From that day forward test tubes and/or the couriers that internationally transferred these deadly viruses ceased to be traced. Sina Bavari shortly thereafter can be linked to 4 start-ups in this period that dealt with vaccinations and/or antigens of Coronavirus. He then returned to Iran. From what I can gather half the Iranian government was wiped out from the virus.
Evidence also points to 300 military athletes from Ft Detrick being infected with the virus when they attended the Wuhan Military Games in October. Many did not compete in the games due to illness and the US placed 35th out of hundreds of nations! Information on this matter is not easy to obtain. Whether they were vaccinated with a defected virus or intentionally sent to Wuhan to spread we may never know but given the current desperation of DS I would venture to guess this virus was developed here in the US, released by the US in China to make it look like the CCP intentionally did this (which makes absolutely no sense at all) so Neocons get their war. And bad orange man blamed for everything! These people are sick and my fear now is intentional spread whenever and wherever they want. They will not go down with a whimper because once this evil is exposed all will have to answer to not only the authorities but the outraged public, many of whom have lost everything!

Blogger z May 17, 2020 2:41 PM  

I cannot claim this is proof of covid being made by the DeepStaters, but its just amazing at how much bad advice Trump got from "respectable" media outlets at the beginning of covid:

We were initially told by respectable media (including articles in WaPo and NYT) that it was the flu, not covid, that we really needed to worry about.

We were told that the Chinese Travel ban Trump instituted in late January was unnecessary, racist, and xenophobic. Turns out to be the best thing he could have done.

We were told for a while that masks were of little value. Washing hands was more important. Later we found out that little droplets in the cool, dry indoor air was the best means of transmission. Masks would be the best defense against this.

We were made to feel it was harsh that several Cruise ships were to stay out at sea, or have the sick quarantined on shore when they got back to the USA in several little stories.

New York in particular has sent many sick with covid to nursing homes (thanks to Mayor "Cuoma", who is endlessly cheered by his pretty brother "Priss" Cuomo) where they were in close contact with old residents who didn't have masks and subsequently came down with covid and died, upping the numbers of dead (which Trump gets blamed for).

Trump wanted to quarantine New York, and governor "Cuoma" had a hissy fit. The media gave no help here, even though it would have been the best thing to do for a month or so, assuring covid didn't make it up and down the Eastern seaboard.

Trump stopping things for a bit at the end of March and the beginning of April allowed businesses to get their hands on masks, forehead thermometers, extra disinfectant sprays, enough hand sanitizers, other PPE, and the time to come up with new procedures for dealing with covid so they could quickly reopen and get the economy running again. In retrospect, considering the advice he had been given, he did quite well. It looks like European tourists were the main way covid got here initially, and its superspeading events were in NYC subways and a Chinese festival in NYC in which DeBlasio and his health czar were entreating people to attend and to hug-a-Chinese person at.

I think Birx has been more help than Fauci.

Blogger Akulkis May 17, 2020 2:57 PM  

"The idea of great vast conspiratorial networks cooking up a global disaster, organized by some Dr. No, or Smersh-like organization, makes for brain killing trash movies and bad spy novels, but never discount incompetence and stupidity as the driving force."

.... he wrote after describing a scenario driven primarily by malevolence, with only a single step consisting of incompetence.

Blogger Raker_T May 17, 2020 2:58 PM  

What @31 said. Ugly indeed; I keep having this out there speculation that there will be a point where they get nearly explicit with a message like: "This is all because you voted for Trump, against us. Vote Democrat and have peace."
Not trying to sound black pill, in fact, I occasionally ask myself "You've wondered for years what sort of big events would be required to facilitate secession, well, this could all be it".

Blogger Akulkis May 17, 2020 4:16 PM  

"But considering it goes against The Narrative, the research is probably more reliable."

That's the unstated premise of the whole joke.

Blogger Nathan Hornok May 17, 2020 4:27 PM  

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

If this stuff is over your head, just pay attention to the "polybasic" cleavage site that sits between the s1 and s2 sub-units of the famous "spike" protein. This letter claiming to debunk the engineered signature of this virus actually does the opposite. You just have to pay attention to the information in the letter, and ignore the editorializing of the authors that contradicts what they are showing you.

And also there is this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19553314 that shows that in 2009 it was known that these sorts of cleavage sites can help the virus enter the cell (infect the cell) easier. This is the background knowledge that would guide researches trying to increase the pathogenicity of this virus, to put this type of cleavage site in this spot in the virus.

So the take-away is that this polybasic cleavage site is not present in any of the closely related corona-viruses that we have so far found in nature. Notice that this cleavage sight is the insertion of 4 amino-acids, which if you know your biology, actually comes from the insertion of 12 nucleic-acids at this spot. For this event to have happened naturally, you have to believe that 12 insertion mutations would just randomly have to to all insert into the same place. Or that there was this 12 nucleic-acid long chunk of material that just happened to splice into this virus's genome in the perfect spot between the s1 and s2 sub-units. It is possible that such a thing happened in nature. There are trillions of animal vectors out there, so there could be ample opportunity for this unlikely event to have happened naturally. But as of now, we have not found any closely related coronoviruses in nature that have this perfectly placed cleavage site. So based on what we know now, lab origin seems most likely.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica May 17, 2020 4:36 PM  

According to BDAnon (https://paulfurber.net/bda/index.html), the virus was engineered by Chinese and Russian scientists and accidentally released in a road accident. Also, it's mutating into a superdeadly form in China. Of course, this could be one of those "read for entertainment purposes only" LARPs, so take it with a grain of salt...

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants May 17, 2020 4:46 PM  

While zoonotic leaps in China are as common as rice in China, everyone should be willing to admit,they never felt like this before and the Chinese panicked coverup was never to this degree before.
Not to mention the force and speed in which it just so happens to travel to specific areas.
I don't know if it was an accident or on purpose, all I know is that it was pretty darn effective for the power pimp globalist types, and to me that is the scariest part.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia May 17, 2020 4:50 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Tremendous. Now this is how you write a joke. Set up, turn, punchline. All delivered tightly. Well done.

I did chuckle at MichaelJMaier's joke. But considering it goes against The Narrative, the research is probably more reliable.


"Reliable" is arguably the wrong "adjective" -- "plausible" is probably the better modifier.

The reason that this paper is a pre-print and not peer reviewed -- or rather will never make it into a peer reviewed journal -- is that its conclusions are inferences that COULD be confirmed if you knew the facts.

Now some might say that papers like this get peer reviewed and published

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086482/

because they fit the narrative. However, they only make one claim that the virus IS Zoonotic -- and it is. It does "originate" in bats.

Those who push back against the "engineered" version say there's nothing in the genetic code that shows manipulation by splicing and reinserting genetic material. And that is true.

But what the authors of this paper Vox referenced say is that you don't have to do that "engineering" -- you simply have to culture the virus, call the evolved versions that don't bind strongly to human ACE2, and continue to grow the ones that mutated to have strong binding affinity to human receptors.

So while it's a strong hypothesis, and falsifiable, it remains speculative, though plausible. Since these guys just did computatonal modeling, there are only two ways to confirm it. Replicate that culturing in a level 4 lab -- and of course, nobody is going to do that now.

Or the Chinese confess.

In either case, a snowball in hell has a better chance of not melting.

Blogger Bodo Staron May 17, 2020 4:52 PM  

From Luc Montagnier: yes, it was made in a lab and it includes parts from hiv because the Chinese were trying to create a Aids vaccine.

From /pol/, a wild guy called "Big Dick Anon" :
Yes, made in a lab. Bioweapon, created by Russians and Chinese, got out during a traffic accident. He claimed this back in February I think. About a week ago a very interesting report came out that looked at traffic and mobile movement in the Wuhan lab area. This happened in October.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 17, 2020 5:40 PM  

@41 CM, most folks never get it even if exposed. It may not be a low transmission rate we're seeing, but a low susceptible population, among which small group it spreads like wildfire.

Blogger CostelloM May 17, 2020 6:50 PM  

Well if this is a man made virus (and this is very likely) they certainly did a crap job of it. The rate of death for COVID is much less than the rate of past flus. They'd have been better off trying reintroduce the Spanish flu for a round 2 then releasing this thing. Can't they do anything right?

Blogger Macs May 17, 2020 8:58 PM  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it was grown on a Chinese lab wouldn't they have been able to identify it much faster by comparing it to their already-sequenced samples?

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 17, 2020 9:28 PM  

Can't they do anything right?

By the time the dust settles, it may have crashed national economies and currencies and toppled a few governments. That seems pretty effective to me.

Its effectiveness as a bioweapon comes from the long incubation period. If you can carry and spread a virus for several days before you have any symptoms, it's basically impossible to quarantine the sick from the healthy fast enough to do any good, so all you can do is try to quarantine everyone. Hence social distancing.

Of course, you'd like your bioweapon to also be deadlier, but it may not be that easy to design both into one bug. If you have to choose between deadlier and more guaranteed to spread, you'll take the latter. Deadlier bugs like SARS-1 and MERS couldn't do this much damage because they killed off their carriers before they could spread it far.

That's one reason I lean toward the accidental early release theory. They would have preferred to make it more deadly, and also have a vaccine prepared, before releasing it on purpose. As it is, if they did it on purpose, it's one of the biggest own-goals in history.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 18, 2020 7:06 AM  

"it's basically impossible to quarantine the sick from the healthy fast enough to do any good, so all you can do is try to quarantine everyone. Hence social distancing."

Which is obviously and comically ineffective the way people do and are told to practice it. For one full-retard example among countless, people being stuck in long crowded lines for ten minutes or more outside certain businesses so that the employees can be satisfied everyone is "practicing appropriate social distancing" inside.

Even if people practiced it "correctly" it's ludicrously insufficient. Everyone's going to get it, even if I make the assumption that everyone here isn't already infected or over it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 18, 2020 8:54 AM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:Its effectiveness as a bioweapon comes from the long incubation period. If you can carry and spread a virus for several days before you have any symptoms, it's basically impossible to quarantine the sick from the healthy fast enough to do any good, so all you can do is try to quarantine everyone. Hence social distancing.

Of course, you'd like your bioweapon to also be deadlier ...

This is so non-deadly that it's not really worth quarantining. With the Trump Cure, it's really a total non-issue, which explains the Left's reaction to the Trump Cure.
Azure Amaranthine wrote:Even if people practiced it "correctly" it's ludicrously insufficient. Everyone's going to get it, even if I make the assumption that everyone here isn't already infected or over it.
The socialist distancing was obviously bogus from the start: who really believed that a sneeze would stop at six feet, or that a small group was safer than a large group? No masks! No, masks! You can't get it in the grocery store, but you would get it in the gym for sure! Effective precautions would have been a good idea, but the official guidance boiled down to PANIC, and GET SICK SOONER. New York City followed official guidance, and look how that's turning out ...

Blogger Guz May 18, 2020 11:06 AM  

I'm sure its been mentioned before, but the Brits did a couple of seasons of a show a few years back, "Utopia" The mention of the comic book laying out the plan brought it to my mind. Spooky similarities.

Spoiler. The global vaccination plan was how they activated the genetic modifications to sterilize people in an effort to reduce population.

I enjoyed it even though there were a few pozzed tropes in the writing.

Blogger Akulkis May 18, 2020 12:14 PM  

"They'd have been better off trying reintroduce the Spanish flu for a round 2 then releasing this thing. Can't they do anything right?"

Anybody alive today either survived the Spanish Flu, or is a descendant of those who did.

Blogger Akulkis May 18, 2020 12:20 PM  

"
Even if people practiced it "correctly" it's ludicrously insufficient. Everyone's going to get it, even if I make the assumption that everyone here isn't already infected or over it."

Yes, of course, everyone is going to get it. The point isn't to keep everyone from getting it. The point is to keep the transmission rate low enough so that the hospitals aren't overflowing, and resulting in the deaths of millions, as happened in Wuhan.

Yes, I know the Chinese say they only had 100,000 cases and only 10,000 deaths. The 8,000,000 cancelled cellphone numbers and huge clouds of smoke over locked-down Wuhan, larger, and 4x denser than coal-powered Beijing, from bodies being cremated prove otherwise.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 18, 2020 1:35 PM  

Which is obviously and comically ineffective the way people do and are told to practice it.

Yes, there's a lot of stupid in the way it's been done. Here in Illinois, churches were shut down just like bars and restaurants. They're now allowed to have 10 people at a time, and it took a lawsuit against the governor to get that. So Walmart can have a couple hundred people walking around sort of trying to stay 6 feet from each other, but a church that seats 300 can only have 10. Shows you whose side the governor is on.

Still, the fact that it's a big problem in places like Chicago while there are rural counties that still haven't had a case shows that it *does* help for people to give each other some space. It's just that we already pretty much live that way out here, so for us it really didn't need to be such a drastic change. Just being more cognizant of personal space and, say, blocking off every other church pew would have done just as well here. But we had to have state-wide one-size-fits-all rules because the governor couldn't admit the city was at a disadvantage. So now we've "flattened the curve" down to practically zero here, which means if the plan is for everyone to get it slowly, it must be a 1000-year plan.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 18, 2020 3:40 PM  

"Yes, of course, everyone is going to get it. The point isn't to keep everyone from getting it. The point is to keep the transmission rate low enough"

That's the best rationalization, yes. It's wearing increasingly thin as I said it would at the outset.

"The 8,000,000 cancelled cellphone numbers and huge clouds of smoke over locked-down Wuhan, larger, and 4x denser than coal-powered Beijing, from bodies being cremated prove otherwise."

You'll have to excuse me for not believing the extra-worst-case death tolls now that we've supposedly had it for months in the USA with comparatively nonexistent quarantine measures and not even an interesting amount of deaths to show for it.

For your best case scenarios, it's possible that there were multiple viruses released and the bad one(s) somehow didn't get out of China, which would be consistent with intentional biowarfare as I've hypothesized with multiple agents to shape the efficacy zone and duration. It's also possible that the horrid air conditions caused higher death tolls and then fed back viciously when they started cremating.

Blogger Akulkis May 18, 2020 7:58 PM  

"For your best case scenarios, it's possible that there were multiple viruses released and the bad one(s) somehow didn't get out of China, which would be consistent with intentional biowarfare as I've hypothesized with multiple agents to shape the efficacy zone and duration. It's also possible that the horrid air conditions caused higher death tolls and then fed back viciously when they started cremating."

Those are rather strong and good arguments. Definitely plausible with no glaring counter-factuals.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 18, 2020 9:50 PM  

As I understand it, viral load matters too. So there would be a difference between people who got it early when they had no idea it was even there and hadn't started changing their behavior, and those who got it later when they were maintaining distance and washing their hands constantly.

Blogger Up from the pond May 19, 2020 5:32 AM  

O for the days when I didn't have to wash my hands. Just roll up to Golden Corral and grab the biscuits.

Blogger Boaty Bear May 19, 2020 8:42 PM  

Yup, everyone knows about the Flu season and ALL various factions are using it to further their political goals, whatever they are, everyone has an angle, even me, the masks on the street let me know who the Low IQ/Low resolution thinkers are.

Discharging COrona VIrus Disease of 2019 (Flu) patients from hospital into care homes, to drive up the initial death count in Italy, was our first clue, gave the Enemedia worldwide the opportunity to ramp up the fear, snowball rolling, and here we are.

Ultimately, when Trunk has spent all this fake fiat currency like it can be summoned out of thin air! Rebuilding, well, everything, he can then remind the Rothies etc about EO 13818, and voila, le (la?) debt jubilee arrivez.

Hail GEOTUS & EO 13825.

Blogger Boaty Bear May 19, 2020 8:48 PM  

My good lady did note that here in the UK some of the first fatalities were in random care homes scattered around the country, I doubt there were that many oldies being visited by people newly arrived from China or wherever, my good lady has also at 7 months pregnant worked constantly throughout the Scamdemic (Fauci/Gates/etc) in various care homes (agency) she's seen two Neuftagenarians (90+?) Recover having tested positive, one, a 94 year old with Bowel Cancer recovered, happily.

Everything about the last 2 months screams..Scamdemic.

Blogger Boaty Bear May 19, 2020 8:51 PM  

Chronologically, Brexit led the Nationalist charge.

Blogger Boaty Bear May 19, 2020 8:53 PM  

Not at all if what's now being said about
Hydroxychloroquine
Azithromycin + Zinc
Is true?

Blogger Boaty Bear May 19, 2020 8:57 PM  

Peer-reviewed?
I have Two more words for you,
"Reproducibility Crisis"

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