Wednesday, May 20, 2020

The narrative implodes

As with evolution by accident and other fairy tales that are subjected to objective analysis, the mainstream Covid-19 narrative is continuing to unravel:
In what would mark a massive shift in the timeline of coronavirus spread, French researchers believe there is evidence coronavirus may have been in Europe as early as November 2019.

X-rays obtained exclusively by NBC News show two patients with symptoms in their lungs consistent with the novel coronavirus dated Nov. 16 and Nov. 18, months before COVID-19 was believed to be spreading in the country. Researchers from Colmar, France, announced the X-rays last week and are working to confirm whether the patients had coronavirus.

France had originally believed its first case to have been Jan. 24.

The study comes in conjunction with a study by other French scientists who discovered last week that a coronavirus patient had been treated in the country in December.

The doctors from the Groupe Hospitalier Paris Seine in Saint-Denis said a sample taken from a 42-year-old fishmonger admitted to the emergency room on Dec. 27 had tested positive for the coronavirus.
But... but China! And bats! And pangolins! This ability to demolish the Official Story is why science - genuine scientody - has been converged and controlled for decades.

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Blogger Nihil Dicit May 20, 2020 5:56 AM  

A widely distributed "sleeper" virus that was just recently activated (intentionally or otherwise)? I'm not sure that's even technologically possible, but a virus that mostly targets the old would seem to be an excellent first real world test for such a technology, just to see if it can be done without excessive "collateral damage".

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 20, 2020 6:13 AM  

If that's the case, I have a very hard time believing that it wasn't present in major airport cities in the USA in January, and that near everyone hadn't already been exposed to it by early March.

Blogger APL May 20, 2020 6:54 AM  

"the mainstream Covid-19 narrative is continuing to unravel"

I'm not sure what aspect of the MSM narrative is unravelling, is it the 'originated in China' thread?

I've thought for some time that it was implausible, given that every Western city in Europe and the USA has Chinese University students travelling freely back and forth during 1919, that if this thing did originate in Wuhan it had been spread far and wide long before the media fastened to the China locks down fifteen cities on or around Jan 20th.

I had something disgusting in early December, it was quite persistent and also brought with it a dry cough. Brought in by a new start in my place of work ( in my opinion ) I'd sat next to him coughing and sneezing for two weeks before I got it.

Later in Jan, I took my partner into A&E at 2am one morning - had an appointment with the GP on the Wednesday, clean bill of health, Monday morning A&E, diagnosis, pneumonia.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 20, 2020 7:20 AM  

I'm not sure what aspect of the MSM narrative is unravelling

The idea that it suddenly appeared out of nowhere as a random mutation in China near the end of the year, and that China warned the rest of the world as soon as they realized what was going on. Both are clearly false and have been almost from the start. It wasn't random or natural, and it was probably spreading much earlier than that.

Blogger VD Bear May 20, 2020 7:29 AM  

Wife and I have believed for a while now we had corona(virus) right after Christmas. Mild flu like symptoms with a cough we couldn’t shake for almost 3 weeks. Wife even went in to get her lungs looked at.

Blogger Scuzzaman May 20, 2020 7:34 AM  

The biggest part that’s unravelling is the fatality rate. Because it’s been circulating a lot longer a lot more people have it without symptoms.

It kills old and/or sick people because it’s a flu. It shows up as sever flu tending to pneumonia in late winter because that’s what flu does.

Blogger Bearable Pain May 20, 2020 7:42 AM  

Covid is reclassified already existing illness. It's a weaponized lie. Fauci is a left-over HIV researcher, grifter and scam artist. Perfect for the job at hand!

Blogger Bearable Pain May 20, 2020 8:00 AM  

I think the real virus that has been weaponized is the ability to reclassify illness, shut down immune systems with no actual 'isolated purified virus' so there is no evidence of a crime. We know that people who were hit by cars and had heart attacks are classified - misclassified - as covid related deaths without even being tested. So how perfect a crime to create hysteria, spread a rumor, pay hospitals to put people on ventilators that eventually kill them yet it's all covid baby! All covid. Nothing to see here. Move along. Ask yourselves why many of the people in charge are directly related to the HIV - AZT scam? Immune systems crash because of many variables and with HIV it actually included Fauci's AZT. When people stopped taking AZT they lived,albeit with serious immuno-deficiency. I'm not trying to get banned. But the Faucian Deal is not a ticket I'll ever take. I think this is a world power grab and Marxist based coup under the guise of a very questionable, even fairly benign, virus according to the patent owned by the Pirbright Institute. Pirbright's patent is not even certain coronaviruses cause illness. People smarter than me should read it. Don't take the Faucian Deal.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( according to the 13th Amendment, Slavery is neither Cruel nor Unusual: MSAGA ) May 20, 2020 8:14 AM  

1. Nihil Dicit May 20, 2020 5:56 AM
but a virus that mostly targets the old

most viruses "target the old". because they're weaker and have decades of chronic abuse of their bodies.

2. Azure Amaranthine May 20, 2020 6:13 AM
I have a very hard time believing that it wasn't present in major airport cities in the USA in January, and that near everyone hadn't already been exposed to it by early March.


in which case every policy recommendation by Fauci has been a complete waste of time.

the question would be:
why didn't we have any nursing home culling over the winter holidays if this is true?

Blogger Stilicho May 20, 2020 8:14 AM  

Yep. There have been other reports of it possibly being present in US as early as october. Nothing inconsistent with Chinese spilling it on themselves at Wuhan lab, failing to contain it, and trying to cover it up as it spread. Also consistent with intel reports of strange activity in Wuhan lab in early october indicative of partial shutdown/contamination of part of lab complex.

That doesn't some other actor didn't induce an "accident" at Wuhan or otherwise precipitate this, but typical Chinese quality control and subsequent govt coverup is the best explanation I've seen so far.

Besides, the MSM narrative is still bat soup and the poor Chinese are the victims of the virus and white racism, with occasional nods to the "America did it" propaganda from China.

Blogger Erynne May 20, 2020 8:27 AM  

My brother had a very severe flu in January, two months before my city declared a Covid-19 case. My wife's friend is a nurse and the nurse-talk was that some flu outbreak they didn't understand had gone around winter of '19. Half my co-workers were out sick in January (one had to be hospitalized, she was morbidly obese). I would definitely be inclined to believe the virus has been here since November.

Blogger bramley May 20, 2020 8:48 AM  

Bat tartare, anyone?

Blogger Dan in Georgia May 20, 2020 8:51 AM  

I could see the CDC being involved in designing and/or spreading the virus along with the NIH, WHO and Gates Foundation. They could have sent it to China directly from Atlanta without a problem. Most Chinese I have taken to the airport with Uber were taking connecting flights through Seattle or San Fransisco, and then to China. Convenient places to spread it on the way to Wuhan.

Reminds me a little of "12 Monkeys". I'm sure Gates has seen that movie.

Blogger pyrrhus May 20, 2020 8:54 AM  

Also, a number of experts have expressed the opinion that the mildness of the Cov-19 outbreak on the West coast is due to a prior outbreak last fall.... which would be consistent with the French outbreak.

Blogger Dan in Georgia May 20, 2020 8:58 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:If that's the case, I have a very hard time believing that it wasn't present in major airport cities in the USA in January, and that near everyone hadn't already been exposed to it by early March.

I think the tests would have shown that early on, if there was any confidence in their accuracy then or now. It would have panicked the country a lot worse if there had been decent testing. Would not be surprised if a third of the population has antibodies from the virus already, if not more, based on the sample from NYC a few weeks ago. I think it's a bio-weapon that wasn't ready for release yet, that was used as a Hail Mary pass to try to beat President Trump in November.

Blogger Wazimonka May 20, 2020 9:02 AM  

That is consistent with what was going on on 4chan. There was a thread there back in October, where some dude from a lab reported sightings of some very strange virus with 35k nucleotides:

It is possible that more than one strain leaked from a lab, or that in Wuhan it only mutated for the worse.

Blogger Slippin JImmy May 20, 2020 9:19 AM  

It's quite possible that the virus has mutated and that if it was circulating last autumn it was a less virulent strain that wouldn't have aroused anyone's suspicions.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 20, 2020 9:20 AM  

Fits the narrative I suspected. I had Corona virus symptoms back in early December with high fever for days and clogged lungs. I never fully recovered for months afterwards and all I got was antibiotics, which didn't do much.

So I'm thinking I already had it long before it became a huge problem in China.

Unfortunately, I think this also exonerates the Deep State. And China, unfortunately, still looks bad because they clearly spread the virus across the world intentionally.

Blogger Bohemond of Antioch May 20, 2020 9:25 AM  

My doctor here in Maryland who is also a friend, told me weeks ago that he has been seeing patients presenting with corona virus symptoms since Nov. 2019. It was a mild case except in patients taking meds that opened cox2 receptors in cells, those had serious problems and some had to go to hospital. Heart medication will cause you to get very sick or taking advil which are cox2 inhibitors. He was very sure of this and wondered why nothing in media about this.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia May 20, 2020 9:39 AM  

VD wrote:

But... but China! And bats! And pangolins!

Oh, for heaven's sake!

The Chinese visit France in gigantic human caravans all the time, like they do in most of Europe. Shit, they try to buy up half the first growth Bordeaux futures each year.

If you're not careful, the fall Brunello release will be next.

I was in a well-known capital of Central Europe two years ago, and every time you turned a corner to look at some famous medieval structure, the slant eyed mini-army would be blocking your view.

But...but...bioweapon!! From the USA! From the West! Deep state!!

Anybody can play this game.

Blogger Andy in San Diego and Elsewhere May 20, 2020 10:08 AM  

Wife almost assuredly had it late Dec/early Jan. She was so bad, we took her to urgent care and they diagnosed her as having a "viral infection" (this was before Coronavirus was a thing). Then I had it the 2nd week in Jan and have one of the side effects - loss of a sense of taste/smell (just for a few things).

Wife probably got it when she attended her election/precinct captain training in Dec which had a few Chinese in it.

Blogger Up from the pond May 20, 2020 10:12 AM  

Ozzy Osborne was fond of biting off the heads of bats. He never got COVID-19 in all those crazy years.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 20, 2020 10:16 AM  

furor kek tonicus ( the 2nd Amendment exists so you can protect your daughter from molestation by Creepy Uncle Joe ) wrote:the question would be:

why didn't we have any nursing home culling over the winter holidays if this is true?

Are we sure we didn't? How many nursing homes do any of us have a close connection to?

Blogger rumpole5 May 20, 2020 10:18 AM  

These are interesting facts, but what exactly do they indicate? What is the relation to Chinese middle aged men dropping down on the sidewalk in Wuhan, China months later? In any case, the damning aspect of the China virus epidemic is not so much its origin, but in how the Chinese Communist Government acted after the fact of the Wuhan epidemic became known. If the CCP restricted domestic travel but encouraged international travel, then that is reprehensible, even if the virus was of French origin.

Blogger Andy in San Diego and Elsewhere May 20, 2020 10:19 AM  

@Slippin Jimmy: You might be onto something with that. I'm reading a great (so far) book on the US military's response to the Spanish Flu of 1917-1919 called Fever of War and the Army doctors noted that there were 3 distinct waves of the flu.

Blogger FrankNorman May 20, 2020 10:20 AM  

Is it not possible that more that one type of virus could have the elements that the test is looking for?

Blogger stevo May 20, 2020 10:21 AM  

If it was already widespread in the fall, then one way to make it seem like a pandemic is to control who gets tested making sure to avoid testing anyone who wouldn't fit the narrative.
Which seems to be what was done

Blogger Bodo Staron May 20, 2020 10:22 AM  

Excellent @Wazimonka was about to post this.

We know from report MACE-E-PAI-COVID-19-ANALYSIS-Redacted that there was an event in the lab between October 6. - 11.
BigDickAnon posted early in January that the virus got out because of a traffic accident.

Canada has a strong influx of Chinese people, especially the Vancouver area. Anon posted this October 21 that a new Coronavirus showed up in eastern Canada.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 20, 2020 10:22 AM  

This tallies with what the commenters on my blog were saying.

Something hit hard in January. I even had a guy in Japan saying it happened there too.

I know the medical community has been quietly saying for a while that there was a double spike this flu season. And that there was a good possibility that what we are seeing now is the second spike.

Part of that is just how much the Covid-19 virus has changed. The strain that hit New York was identifiably different from the one that hit the West Coast.

In a nutshell a lot of people in the genetics side of things are murmuring that it's not looking like a new bug. They think it's been around for a while now.

Blogger Nostromo May 20, 2020 10:28 AM  

I also had those symptoms in early December, and while I usually shrug off colds and glus this lasted, and was bad enough I went to yhe doctor. They tested me by shoving a swab deep into my synus cavity, just like they do when testing for corona. The doctor said there were 2 types of flu going around type A, and type B, with being the worst. I had type A. The Tamiflu she prescribed didn't touch it, so I went to see my regular doctor, and she gave me stuff that cleared it up in 2 weeks. Since the outbreak in Wuhan, I have been wondering.

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 20, 2020 10:35 AM  

I had a nasty respiratory infection in November. With fever. Kept me nailed down for a few days.

Blogger SamuraiJeff May 20, 2020 11:21 AM  

November Lost Angeles had it. It will be revealed

Blogger brbrophy May 20, 2020 11:38 AM  

What are the chances the virus was created in the CDC lab on Plum Island. That place is responsible for lyme's disease. Montauk was a center for MK Ultra. Grabblers have always like eastern Long Island for their grabbles

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 20, 2020 11:48 AM  

"why didn't we have any nursing home culling over the winter holidays if this is true?"

If so, how does "because it's not a significantly more dangerous illness and never was, the scare was manufactured after the thing passed silently" sound for an if/then on that? About the only alternative is that the nasty flu we DID have managed to immunize us pretty effectively.

"I think the tests would have shown that early on, if there was any confidence in their accuracy then or now."

I've no confidence. AFAIK most if not all of the test kits still don't distinguish between coronaviruses. It would be oh so easy for the thought process "Covid19 didn't arrive in the USA until March so any cases more than a month before that are something else" to be ubiquitous. People usually see what they expect to see with little regard for what's actually there.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's what I would expect. MPAI.

Blogger bramley May 20, 2020 12:34 PM  

Up from the pond wrote:
Ozzy Osborne was fond of biting off the heads of bats. He never got COVID-19 in all those crazy years.

And he ended up marrying one instead of biting its head off.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 20, 2020 1:48 PM  

why didn't we have any nursing home culling over the winter holidays if this is true?

Right. Why wasn't what happened in Italy in Feb/March happening all over the place months earlier? It doesn't make sense to say people thought it was just the flu, because they test for flu, and there would have been reports of a strange non-flu epidemic hitting the hospitals and nursing homes hard. People die in nursing homes all the time, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't notice if the rate multiplied.

If it was floating around the world as early as October, which seems very possible based on the reports of how early it really hit China, then something must have changed around January. It mutated, or there was a second release of a stronger strain.

Blogger APL May 20, 2020 3:03 PM  

There is some talk that people may not have permanent immunity. Well that sounds pretty sensible to me.

If you've got a seasonal flue which will die out in the summer and another mutated/different strain attack again in the Winter, why would Nature bother to provide permanent immunity for a condition that is only likely to come around once or twice in five or ten years?

If we hadn't done anything (social distancing / lockdown ) the whole epidemic would have been well over by now, and the virus mutated or died out. If the former, then there isn't much point in developing long term immunity. If the latter, then there isn't much point in developing long term immunity.

But if you've locked down the population and the virus is exploding in small pockets here and there, that would be because we've artificially prolonged the outbreak.

But what we hear from the MSM is 'WAAAAAH! THERE IS NO LONG TERM IMMUNITY FROM COVID-19'. People are catching it again! Well, yea, people catch a cold fairly frequently too.

Blogger Magson May 20, 2020 4:09 PM  

I saw an article from a LAs Vegas news channel a couple of weeks ago saying they'd found evidence that it was in Vegas in December, and thus was being passed around the Consumer Electronics Show in early January and conventioneers from there would have taken it to all corners of the country.

Blogger Nihil Dicit May 20, 2020 6:18 PM  

most viruses "target the old"

And the very young, which hasn't happened with this virus.

Blogger Macs May 21, 2020 12:21 AM  

So that's why they are whacking researchers and not sharing the genome sequencing!

Blogger SciVo May 21, 2020 1:14 AM  

@ Nihil Dicit:

And the very young, which hasn't happened with this virus.

Because the killer "cytokine storm" is an overreaction of the learned immune system, so not a problem for kids.

Blogger Akulkis May 21, 2020 2:43 AM  

"Is it not possible that more that one type of virus could have the elements that the test is looking for?"

*NONE* of the current tests is specific to detection of COVID-19, to the exclusion of all others.

Blogger Boaty Bear May 21, 2020 2:48 PM  

At some point Italy and NY reportedly discharged COFlu victims INTO care homes...
That'll drive the rate up suddenly, you'd think?

Blogger Boaty Bear May 21, 2020 2:48 PM  

Yes, this.

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