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Friday, May 22, 2020

The pandemic and the public schools

Given that technology and homeschooling have already rendered the public schools totally obsolete from an actual education standpoint, one can't help but wonder if one of the side-benefits of pushing the lockdown measures in response to Corona-chan is killing the public schools once and for all.
The shutdown of schools across America, both public and private, has thrown the lives of parents into an upside-down struggle. And now, in the name of safety, the Centers for Disease Control are nearly guaranteeing the destruction of public schools in the United States.

They don’t mean to, of course. After all, public schools are the government-run and government-approved schools. But right now, every single parent across America is homeschooling. We are all getting a look at the shortcomings of curriculum, bureaucracy, and the people involved. While some teachers have risen to the occasion and tried their absolute hardest to attend to the educational and mental well-being of their students, there are some teachers who are just mailing it in. And there are kids and families that are mailing it in as well. The situation, as it stands right now, is not a sustainable one....

At the rate the districts and the CDC are going, the only kids left in public school will be the kids whose parents can’t afford to get them a private tutor/governess, the kids whose parents are not involved to begin with, the kids whose parents need the public school for childcare/meal purposes, and special education kids. And if you think teachers’ unions were down on homeschooling before, wait until public school enrollment drops nationwide and districts start losing real money over decreased enrollment. The best part? The unions will have no one to blame but their local government. The longer the school shutdown continues, the more parents are going to make other plans. Public education in the United States may have been unintentionally killed by government.
Taking a short term economic hit that was inevitable anyway thanks to the debt situation is a very small price to pay for killing the two primary engines of evil propaganda in the USA. And Corona-chan hasn't exactly been good for the media or Hollywood either.

Best pandemic ever.

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Blogger One Deplorable DT May 22, 2020 5:38 AM  

Public education in the United States may have been unintentionally killed by government.

Couldn't have happened to a better industry.

Blogger Brett baker May 22, 2020 5:54 AM  

Now, if Corona-Chan can just get the government to acknowledge some students aren't as good as others, and some groups aren't as good at following rules as others.....
I WANNA HAVE HER BABIES!

Blogger Nihil Dicit May 22, 2020 6:04 AM  

There's still plenty o' folks who believe in the "socialization" bollix, including my brother. Of course, he's quite adamant that his kids go to "good schools", which 'round here means "no poor whites".

It would be pretty difficult for the public schools themselves and the teachers and their union to pivot that as a "Save Our Schools!" campaign though: "Look, we can't each 'em anything useful, but we are decent at warehousing them for most of the day. Our violent crime and sexual assault rates are only slightly higher than the national average!"

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira May 22, 2020 6:18 AM  

But... What about the CHILDREN? Do you really want to deprive them of siting in a classroom their whole lives, being treated like idiots? How ***DARE*** you.

Blogger VD Bear May 22, 2020 6:36 AM  

Between the likelihood of mando vaccines and the CDCs latest guidance for kids older than 2 to wear masks, they made the decision for us. Early in our discussion of home schooling the wife was intimidated by the notion of teaching our 5yr old to read but now she is filled with resolve. Momma bear mode in full effect. Thanks coronachan!!

Blogger basementhomebrewer May 22, 2020 6:42 AM  

I am waiting for the follow movement to lower/eliminate the property taxes that pay for the public school. It should be turned into a usage fee. The "don't you care about your future society" argument falls flat if over 50% of kids are private/homeschooled.

Blogger Balkan Yankee May 22, 2020 6:43 AM  

It's like Corona-chan triggered an auto-immune malfunction that is causing Government to attack and fatally undermine the Academic, Media, and Entertainment factions of the Kakistocracy.

Save Lives. Kill the Machine.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz May 22, 2020 6:44 AM  

The Babylon Bee reported this the 01 of March...

https://babylonbee.com/news/teachers-warn-parents-arent-properly-equipped-to-indoctrinate-children/

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 22, 2020 6:54 AM  

Don't worry the Red State gooberments will rush out to save "liberalism" that is what they do and they will brag about it, then get a shiv in their backs for their work.

Blogger Sargent.matrim May 22, 2020 7:05 AM  

Have to admit, that is a real bonus of this situation. Here is Aus the lockdowns make zero sense. But it's awesome how God is bringing great gold out of them anyway.

Blogger Rowan May 22, 2020 7:08 AM  

The “free public education” to which children are entitled is mostly squandered. Some never care. Some care only until it bores or no longer serves their interests and purposes. Some want to continue school because they are hopeful to enter a post-secondary institution.

I’m fine with all of that, but also fine with letting people stand or fall on their own merits and decisions.

The clamor for equality is a, if not the, problem.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 22, 2020 7:08 AM  

The biggest obstacle is the single mom who relies on school as a form of free daycare and free lunch.

Blogger vmax71 May 22, 2020 7:24 AM  

While I am ecstatic with articles like this, all of our joy goes out the window it these "institutions" get bailed out by future govt. boondogle.....er stimuluses.

Blogger Roy Stalin May 22, 2020 7:35 AM  

Yesterday I read their recommended guidelines for reopening. They're completely unfeasible and there's no way the public schools can meet them. They're so bad that I was left wondering if the creators of the CDC guidelines might actually be trying to destroy public schools.

Blogger Hbogbinder May 22, 2020 7:38 AM  

Given that schools are mostly locally funded and that in many districts the citizens vote directly on the school budget or levies that fund the district, the schools might find themselves unable to keep claiming massive resources. In my childhood districts it was always a vote battle between the families and those without kids at home (back then, the old, as voluntary childlessness was much rarer). Now you have a double-whammy of increased fraction of childless households and more households who choose to opt out of the public system. It will be much more difficult for schools to carry votes on ever-expanding budgets. Of course, the result might be a frantic effort by the EduBorg to win state governments or use lawfare to get local funding declared illegal for captious reasons of "racism' or whatever.

Blogger God Emperor Memes May 22, 2020 7:42 AM  

My wife says that having to teach at home has made her realise how little real work teachers actually do, and how much unnecessary filler the children have in their school day. At home, school lessons are completed by lunchtime, four days a week.

Blogger Felix Bellator May 22, 2020 7:45 AM  

Corona-chan has blessed us with:
1. Demonstration if the feebleness of the public education system and the ease/ benefits of home schooling: lack of disease transmission, reduced school violence, isolation of problem students, recognition of the fact that parents can educate their children, how little infrastructure is actually needed to support education.
2. Expansion of teleworking, how individuals and teams can still work and be productive in a distributed environment, and reduced traffic congestion and fuel consumption.
3. The bankruptcy of government: poor medical guidance, bad statistics, contradictory directions, tyranny, etc.
4. The benefits of federalism.
5. The importance of community.
6. The total artificially of the financial system.
7. The strengths and weaknesses of the current market and medical systems.
8. The absolute horror of globalization, the benefits of nationalism and local production / control.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 22, 2020 8:03 AM  

That's one reason I say if this was a globalist plot, it backfired spectacularly. There's no way they planned to shut down the schools, stop Hollywood production, get journalists fired by the truckload, kill mostly Democrat voters in blue strongholds, close borders, and bring global trade to a crawl, among other benefits.

Blogger CCP May 22, 2020 8:03 AM  

My kids are currently doing the public school thing remote via Zoom. They have MAYBE 1 hour of work per day.

Blogger Trid May 22, 2020 8:06 AM  

I embrace the coming schoolpocalypse. Not to get all 'me me me' but around here the school districts are the ones raising taxes year over year, leading to complaints flooding into my office from irate taxpayers unable to comprehend that they voted for the school board that raised their taxes. The school budgets are going to stupid things too. Like building a new K-5 building when there's already several perfectly acceptable buildings in the district. Replacing the HS field with fake grass 'to save money' even though the savings are so low in comparison to the cost that the fake grass will wear out about 10 years before the turf pays for itself. It would be a welcome change to see the arrogance wiped off the faces of our overpaid school administrators.

The biggest pushback I see is coming from the students themselves- I talk to about a dozen middle/high school students on a regular basis and none of them had the emotional resiliency or willpower to achieve the same scholastic output they had when they were sitting at a desk in school being handheld and coddled through their work everyday. They've all been bitten by the propaganda bug and desperately feel the need to be immersed in the soft tranny embrace of the progressive school system.

The worst case is one of a young man from an intact home who has been out of school the last two months. He went from a B average to failing the year and probably repeating because as soon as school closed he refused to do any of his online homework. He would complain that his assignments are almost due, but refuse to do them. Once the window for submission closed he had an emotional breakdown about how he's so screwed but could not articulate or maybe even conceptualize why he didn't do it. It was like there was something missing in him. He had the time and support from his parents to do it, he knew how to do it... He just didn't. And that's what scares me the most. It's like he's been broken and made unable to function without handlers.

Blogger rikjames.313 May 22, 2020 8:16 AM  

In Michigan, the democratic governor cooked up a fake lawsuit that said black children have a constitutional right to perform at the same reading level as white kids. They made sure it was assigned to a democrat federal judge, who issued legally odd rulings, and she 'settled' with extra pay to union teachers, making them the highest paid in the state.

The big problem is that a lot of parents are learning that if you child is not disabled, and you care if they learn, they actually progress better at home with online learning and checking in a few times a week with a tutor/instructor. We still need schools for places, like Detroit, where the mother's don't care if the child learns and their boyfriend will steal any government issued computers or tablets

Blogger Rowan May 22, 2020 8:41 AM  


My wife says that having to teach at home has made her realise how little real work teachers actually do, and how much unnecessary filler the children have in their school day. At home, school lessons are completed by lunchtime, four days a week.


Same. I give my students (high school) about three hours of work per week. The level of engagement and completed assignments is higher now than when we were in class all week.

My own offspring are done by lunchtime every day, but sometimes their teachers have Google Meets at 2 pm. They’re optional and we usually go for a bike ride or hike instead, or work in the garden, and we conveniently forget the Meet.

Blogger Rowan May 22, 2020 8:43 AM  

A constitutional right to perform the same? Wtf does that even mean?

No I know what it “means” but I don’t think it means what they think it means...

Blogger Rowan May 22, 2020 9:06 AM  

And I realize that’s disrespectful to my kids’ teachers. They are good people. They live in our town, or near it, and most have good hearts, but their job is a job. It’s not a higher calling or a hill upon which to die. It’s a paycheck, and my kids or no, they’d get a paycheck.

What good could that energy serve instead? I like these people, men and women alike. I like most of my colleagues, but I fail to see why a special ed teacher gets an 80K salary for 10 months work adjusting lesson plans to accommodate low IQ students. I missed some special cruise or something.

Blogger Felix Bellator May 22, 2020 9:08 AM  

@20 - Trid said, "It's like he's been broken and made unable to function without handlers."

It is a sad fact of life that some people need overseers.

Blogger maniacprovost May 22, 2020 9:57 AM  

the only kids left in public school will be the kids whose parents can’t afford to get them a private tutor/governess, the kids whose parents are not involved to begin with, the kids whose parents need the public school for childcare/meal purposes, and special education kids

That's almost all of them

"It's like he's been broken and made unable to function without handlers."

Perhaps he can't overcome the cognitive stress of doing pointless busy work.

is a sad fact of life that some people need overseers.

Also true

Blogger rikjames.313 May 22, 2020 10:06 AM  

Rowan wrote:A constitutional right to perform the same? Wtf does that even mean?

No I know what it “means” but I don’t think it means what they think it means...


The panel decision is attached, I used a free site for you. This panel is democrat, the full circuit cancelled the decision pretty quick but it was up long enough for the governor to 'settle' with her sock puppet plaintiffs.

I am an attorney, but I have never done any constitutional law. Even so, it is fairly plain this is just a made up reason to keep the case alive.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/literacy-ca6.pdf

Blogger Parrothead Al May 22, 2020 10:10 AM  

A good outcome would have a priority like this:
1. Good private school
2. Home school for younger, online and self educated for older
3. Non-diverse suburban public school in red states
4. Public schools elsewhere with 80% funding reduction, would not see any difference in outcome, start to see it as equivalent to public bus versus private car when compared to the three above

Blogger Section 8A May 22, 2020 10:24 AM  

Students are realizing that school is something of a scam. The Great and Merciful Corona-Chan has cemented that idea.

This young woman has been shaken awake.

https://education-ny.blogspot.com/2020/05/on-making-difference.html

Blogger Unknown May 22, 2020 10:28 AM  

God Emperor Memes wrote:My wife says that having to teach at home has made her realise how little real work teachers actually do, and how much unnecessary filler the children have in their school day. At home, school lessons are completed by lunchtime, four days a week.
Your child is not being held back by the idiots he has to sit with by government decree, and the trouble makers who disrupt class. The teachers have to develop their lesson plans around those low IQ dolts, which is why your kid finishes the work in half the time.


A benefit most are not considering is that parents are now getting to see the material their kids are being taught at the granular, day to day level. They can see the crazy math curriculum, the rabid anti-America and ant-white history, all the indoctrination that normally is hidden from view.

Public education as it existed in Jan 2020 is now dead, and just like universities, they don't know it yet.

Blogger Krymneth May 22, 2020 10:35 AM  

For the people who feel like nothing is happening, and especially the blackpillers among us: Consider what we're seeing. We're seeing the Cabal willingly burning public education, the universities, Hollywood, and the media to try to defeat Trump.

Winning teams don't sacrifice long-term strongholds for short-term defense..

Take heart.

Blogger kurt9 May 22, 2020 10:54 AM  

You know, if these shutdowns take out the public schools in the long run, I'm beginning to think they are worth it.

Blogger Freeholder May 22, 2020 11:07 AM  

I'm raising 4 right now in one of the premiere districts in my state. The middle and high school students actually have 3 hours a day of work. The 2 elementary students have about 2. The school decided that they only needed 4 days a week due to the stress and the elementary only needed 3. This is clearly babysitting, which I do need due to my unwise decision of choosing the first wife, but I have no delusions about what I am getting.


The oldest, graduating this year, also had a difficult time turning in assignments on time, half of his teachers adapted to the new reality and half didn't. The amount of extensions, redo opportunities, etc is astounding and being at home with me riding him meant that this semester is half a grade point higher than it ever has been. #2 is in middle school and they actually did adapt decently. The elementary students are not teaching anything and are busy with zoom meetings having scavenger hunts. The fall out even here will be interesting.

Blogger Azimus May 22, 2020 11:26 AM  

We need to keep the teachers employed, but not for the reasons you think. I work in manufacturing, and when a local automotive plant shut down both my company peers and people I knew at other companies groaned because that meant any new hires for the next year would be automotive people - and whike they are personally fine, automotive is a confrontational, top-down command culture where collossal mistakes are swept under the rug and minor problems are elevated to the highest levels of visibility and humiliation - depending on who you are.

The same thing with teachers. There are millions and millions of highly paid, adult children who have zero accountability for their work, accustomed to near-worship by the public and their students both, and lavished with a generous compensation and benefits package. Do we want these people unleashed in the private sector? No, a thousand times no! Keep the parasites where you know they can't do any harm, playing school.

Think of it as a nation-wide "California diaspora".

Blogger Matthew Baker May 22, 2020 11:50 AM  

Parents are also getting a glimpse at more of the subject matter. My friends 6 year old proudly showed him an assignment where he wrote out, “a good citizen obeys authority.” I shit you not.

Blogger Up from the pond May 22, 2020 12:00 PM  

When one subtracts from a teacher's to-do list the necessities of jumping through ever-changing bureaucratic hoops and meeting the challenges of lion-taming 30 unrelated kids, one discovers that teaching a child is the work of a morning.

Blogger J Van Stry May 22, 2020 12:16 PM  

Why ANYONE listens to anything the CDC has to say these days is beyond me. They're a worthless group of political hacks. The agency needs to be disbanded.

Blogger bobby May 22, 2020 12:54 PM  

Sure, the kids may not be in school anymore, but the teachers are all still getting paid, so the essential mission of the system is still being met.

Blogger ThirdMonkey May 22, 2020 12:55 PM  

It is my hope and prayer that The Best Pandemic Ever destroys:

Government Schools

Useless college degree programs

Hollywood

Globalism/Free Trade/Open Borders

Commutes and cubicles
BigTech, BigAg, and Banking



Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis May 22, 2020 1:00 PM  

"Please take our children and place them into an authoritarian environment in which they will be sexually and physically abused by other students, teachers and administrators, all the while being indoctrinated to hate America, Christianity, and white people," said no discerning parent ever.

Blogger Uncle Maffoo May 22, 2020 1:00 PM  

automotive is a confrontational, top-down command culture where collossal mistakes are swept under the rug and minor problems are elevated to the highest levels of visibility and humiliation - depending on who you are.

That's true in plenty of other industries besides automotive.

Thing is, teachers, being low-IQ and fixated on rules and procedures, might make decent front line assembly workers in a manufacturing environment.

Blogger InTheLimbo May 22, 2020 1:01 PM  

Not that I'm a huge fan of the public school system, for all its mind numbing indocrination, but it does have its usefulness.

From a purely financial perspective, if public school is gone (or is held purely online, or requires kids wearing masks) that means either me or my wife leaving work, and losing a six figure income.

From an academic perspective, it is quite useless, but from a social and emotional perspective it has been very useful for my kid. I'm not a 'people person', and school workers have helped my kid a lot with social adjustment, stress management, and that sort of fluffy stuff (and yes they attend school in a high income area). It would be hard to do that myself, or hire someone that can fill in all those roles (unless elite private school, which again would be a large financial hit, although not a too bad option, the question is will those be able to resume normal activities? and if enough private schools pop-up they will be (if they aren't already) just as mediocre as the public ones).

Yes, they are mostly kid storage facilities, and factories of average bland future workers, but those are in fact the (current) needs of most families and businesses, so I'm having a hard time imagining them going away. Unless maybe the new society will function in a way more similar to pre-industrial times, but that is something I haven't quite explored yet, but I suspect it just wouldn't be able to sustain the amount of humans we have today in the planet (not saying that is a good or bad thing).

Blogger Ransom Smith May 22, 2020 1:05 PM  

A good outcome would have a priority like this:
1. Good private school

No, because private schools can be just as bad.
Kids are still sitting in class from 8-3 and deal with feminized learning environments and nonsense.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 22, 2020 1:14 PM  

Azimus wrote:and whike they are personally fine, automotive is a confrontational, top-down command culture where collossal mistakes are swept under the rug and minor problems are elevated to the highest levels of visibility and humiliation - depending on who you are.
This applies to government workers as well, perhaps absent the "command culture" part, but certainly the hide-and-minimize/expose-and-shame selectively applied depending on who you are.
Damelon Brinn wrote:That's one reason I say if this was a globalist plot, it backfired spectacularly. There's no way they planned to shut down the schools, stop Hollywood production, get journalists fired by the truckload, kill mostly Democrat voters in blue strongholds, close borders, and bring global trade to a crawl, among other benefits.
There are some verses in Proverbs that describe the sort of scenario you lay out, mostly mentioning "digging pits" or "rolling boulders".
Remember to pray, precisely because God is Good.

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Don't worry the Red State gooberments will rush out to save "liberalism" that is what they do and they will brag about it, then get a shiv in their backs for their work.
I think that might depend on the States, but certainly the federal Republican party is about none of what it claims as party-planks.

Krymneth wrote:For the people who feel like nothing is happening, and especially the blackpillers among us: Consider what we're seeing. We're seeing the Cabal willingly burning public education, the universities, Hollywood, and the media to try to defeat Trump.
Winning teams don't sacrifice long-term strongholds for short-term defense..
Take heart.

And yet, we just saw perhaps THE biggest transfer of wealth, distracted by pocket-change ($12,000) in the form of the bailouts and 'loans', and the more than 30 Million unemployed now flooding the market means that getting a job will be even more onerous. — Despite the claims of a good economy before Corona-chan hit, this was observably not the case: it's not a healthy economy that has 5 or 10 years required experience for "entry level" jobs, it's not a healthy economy that has industries in peril because they refused to train younger generations and those that know the industry are retiring or dying.
Consider that they would sacrifice those strongholds if they intended to sacrifice the nation (and the depopulation crowd would) or, perhaps, enslave the nation.

Blogger Crew May 22, 2020 1:29 PM  

Indeed. Best. Pandemic. ever!

Journalists are having to seriously consider learning to code. Not that they have much hope in that field but they are being laid off left, right and center!

Blogger L.Fairchild May 22, 2020 1:40 PM  

Roy Stalin wrote:Yesterday I read their recommended guidelines for reopening. They're completely unfeasible and there's no way the public schools can meet them. They're so bad that I was left wondering if the creators of the CDC guidelines might actually be trying to destroy public schools.

What I suspect is that they are just posturing with strict guidelines now, while the public's fear is in full effect, just to satisfy them and make it look like they care. As time goes on and people forget, as they inevitably do (and as people continue not to get sick and die), they'll probably ease up on the restrictions and the schools will just open back up with the same model as before, maybe with just a bit more lysol. My hope is that droves of parents will find that they actually like their children being around, and that homeschooling them is good, and enrollment will drop - at least from the families with two parents. My heart goes out to the kids with single moms.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 22, 2020 2:01 PM  

InTheLimbo wrote:From a purely financial perspective, if public school is gone (or is held purely online, or requires kids wearing masks) that means either me or my wife leaving work, and losing a six figure income.
So you admit that you have sold your children for several thousand dollars each? And that you're happy with that arrangement?

Blogger Newscaper312 May 22, 2020 2:22 PM  

@12 Jeep
If only it was free lunch. Add free breakfast, free backpacks of food sent home on weekends. Plus the school cafeterias open in the summer in black areas to feed "the community" too. Everybody, not just school aged kids.
Totally building dependence and irresponsibility.

Blogger Newscaper312 May 22, 2020 2:28 PM  

I do think the current homeschool trend, as usually practiced in the suburbs, is a bit of a historical anomaly. In the old days, whether farming or cottage crafts, the wives really *worked* in their own sphere. In an era before the modern Prussian inspired govt factory school became the fashion then mandatory... Families in small villages and towns did band together to hire a teacher. Think Little House on the Prairie. Full local control. The idea of some specialization is not crazy.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 22, 2020 2:36 PM  

Newscaper312 wrote:In the old days, whether farming or cottage crafts, the wives really *worked* in their own sphere. In an era before the modern Prussian inspired govt factory school became the fashion then mandatory... Families in small villages and towns did band together to hire a teacher.
Historically the Church, whether priest or nun, or the ladies guild of the Protestant churches, provided basic education to anyone who wanted it, for a very nominal fee. It is one of the missions of the Church to teach the ignorant.

Blogger Emmanuel May 22, 2020 2:45 PM  

@47
Man, this guy's a hebe. And a Judas. Hope those 50 sheckles of silver was worth the spiritual, mental, and even physical well being of his progeny, the short sided kike.

Blogger Krymneth May 22, 2020 2:58 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:Consider that they would sacrifice those strongholds if they intended to sacrifice the nation (and the depopulation crowd would) or, perhaps, enslave the nation.

Well, maybe you're right. After all, was it not Sun Tzu who said "When on the verge of victory, throw down the tools you have been using to advance and desert all of your fortifications and strongholds to chase the enemy with your bare hands, and thereby secure the final victory by impressing the enemy with your sheer strength of devotion."

And I think it was Machiavelli who said something like "The foolish prince thinks considerably on their sources of power and control and spends considerable effort to maintain and expand them, and thereby weakens himself. The Prince who wishes to exert his will on his nation instead burns down his sources of power and takes every opportunity to weaken them, and in doing so, will enforce his will on his nation all the more strongly for doing so from a position of weakness. The strongest Prince is the one who burns the most power in the most conspicuous manner."

Who am I to argue with two of history's greatest thinkers? Clearly all their plans are simply coming to fruition.

Blogger Rowan May 22, 2020 3:10 PM  

NJ now mandates an “inclusive curriculum” so gender queers don’t feel so marginalized

https://www.inquirer.com/education/nj-lgbtq-education-curriculum-lesson-plans-mandate-20200120.html

How does the saying go? F*** this gay earth?

Blogger weka May 22, 2020 4:31 PM  

Single motherhood and the divorce industry will be next. Both are not affordable in a good depression.

Blogger Kat May 22, 2020 5:08 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:InTheLimbo wrote:From a purely financial perspective, if public school is gone (or is held purely online, or requires kids wearing masks) that means either me or my wife leaving work, and losing a six figure income.

So you admit that you have sold your children for several thousand dollars each? And that you're happy with that arrangement?


But you see with that money they can afford travel ball, competitive dance lessons, and international vacations. You wouldn't want their kids to grow up as uncultured savages would you?

Blogger OneWingedShark May 22, 2020 5:18 PM  

Krymneth wrote:Who am I to argue with two of history's greatest thinkers? Clearly all their plans are simply coming to fruition.
I think you're completely missing my point, which is that there are at least factions (plural) that wish to destroy the US and reduce its people to slaves. You mentioned Hollywood being sacrificed to attack Trump, but you miss that Disney bought Star Wars to kill off traditional and pop-culture heroes like Luke Skywalker and Han Solo and at least started degrading them before Trump was even a thing. —Why?— They did it to destroy the heroic-mindset, the inspiration, "the mythology", the "cultural rallying point"… and they did it with malicious glee, the fact that they've alienated their base and driven them off (which is pure insanity from a business point of view) simply doesn't matter to them.

Why do you think that something similar isn't in play among at least some powerful factions?

Blogger God Emperor Memes May 22, 2020 5:20 PM  

"We still need schools for places, like Detroit, where the mother's don't care if the child learns and their boyfriend will steal any government issued computers or tablets"

They can get their GED in a state prison.

Blogger God Emperor Memes May 22, 2020 5:26 PM  

Actually, she attends a private school where discipline is pretty good and misbehaviour is not generally tolerated. However, the school still has to follow the general syllabus guidelines given by the State Government, and a lot of it is meaningless crap.
Schools are basically taxpayer funded babysitting.

Blogger 5stonegames May 22, 2020 5:31 PM  

Newscaper312 wrote:@12 Jeep

If only it was free lunch. Add free breakfast, free backpacks of food sent home on weekends. Plus the school cafeterias open in the summer in black areas to feed "the community" too. Everybody, not just school aged kids.

Totally building dependence and irresponsibility.


Not wrong but also not correct. The value of labor in poor urban communities is too far below the cost of living for people to avoid privation and so the State steps in to keep order. Its cheapest to simply have a welfare state and benefits the political class allowing them to maintain the status quo so its an inevitable choice.

Additional effort to increase that value must come from within that community via stable families however a large number of people in those areas have an IQ under 100 and these days the value of labor for anyone with anything but highly specialized skill and/or connections is increasingly lower, year after year.

Measured as percentage GDP wages are well below half for what they were for 89% of the entire population and all the poor.

Measured in terms of accumulated wealth , the millennial generation has 1/3 (33%!) of what previous generations have.

You essentially have five decades of wage arbitrage, low fertility and mass immigration of people who have little moral issue with socialism much less wealth redistribution This is a ideal condition to increase the size of the state.

If you don't want that you have to have a much less efficient system of doing things, one that ensures as much higher percentage GDP goes to wages, trade and immigration is strictly limited and any technological efficiency is accommodated for.

It also requires repatriation and a patriarchal system for at least families with children compelled by social custom and when needed by force.

Otherwise you are going to get either a collapse, a civil war or the government simply cutting everyone a check and stepping in to control prices so that that 2K can still have value.

Blogger gichan May 22, 2020 5:40 PM  

Free school lunches are being delivered by school busses in nc.

Blogger Nihil Dicit May 22, 2020 5:55 PM  

The Cal State system will not be opening up this fall. The colleges are in even greater trouble than the local public schools, because the actual outrageous cost is right up front with them, and even the warehousing argument doesn't work for the over-18 crowd (some may argue this point).

This will have the unfortunate side effect of flooding the already inundated job market with some truly useless scrubs used to very cushy and easy jobs. The whining could deafen the nation.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 22, 2020 7:36 PM  

@52 Krymneth

Maybe so, but remember that these are Democrats we're talking about. AOC and Maxine Waters, and maybe even post-senility Biden and Pelosi, probably think Machiavelli is a kind of pasta.

Blogger God Emperor Memes May 22, 2020 7:54 PM  

"it's cheapest to simply have a welfare state"
? Cheaper than giving them nothing?
In Australia, we waste $30 billion annually on a minority group who choose to live in remote locations where there are no jobs, nor will there ever be jobs. All we have taught these people is that they don't have to be responsible for themselves and that Whitey will pick up the tab.

Blogger CitizenOutkast May 22, 2020 8:19 PM  

Teacher here, and I can confirm the differences between homeschooling and class. My child has been ahead of his peers every year, which I had the chance to directly compare when I was teaching the same grade he was in. In my school district, the Hispanic population is huge, and they love them some free time from their kids and free food for their kids. Our area is not just giving them food for free each week, but also delivering it to those who claim they can't make the drive. None of these leftists who whine about the kids not being able to eat at home seem to wonder how the kids don't starve over summer break when food is not given out.
Anyway, like another said, my kid also finishes quickly and only has to spend four days doing work. In class, a huge chunk of the time is spent having to hand-hold and repeat over and over again for the few who didn't get it the first 10 times. The smarter kids have to be kept busy, and every year, no matter what grade level, the slow kids set the pace in general.
There is a lot of wasted time and money in programs, too. I have lost count of the "new" learning style or teaching style programs that have sprouted up where we were told they'd revolutionize learning, then dumped in all but lip service until the next one rolled around. I don't recall any lasting more than two years at most. The smarter kids just keep going, and none of the programs do anything for the slower ones. Each year the average intelligence level also gets worse. I remember a teacher telling me "watch out, this year's crop is worse than last year's," and that was a common refrain each year. But the gubmint gimmiedats keep drawing them in, the schools make money for each student enrolled, and where even the leftists can see the problems, they can never admit it has anything to do with ethnicity and/or culture. Doing so would be a death sentence to their careers. The remote learning time has put fully on display who does and doesn't care to even try, and excuses are still constantly offered by administration.
I can't say what will happen with the schools for sure, but I know that around here the free babysitting and feeding service, with some learning thrown in, will not be given up easily. After all, if someone is nice enough to migrate here and bless you with their presence, the least we can do is use our money to feed, clothe, and house them for the rest of their lives.

Blogger Raker_T May 22, 2020 10:20 PM  

Nationalism is their cancer, shutdown is their chemo? Their hair will fall out, and they'll look like hell, but maybe they'll survive. Something to consider: I was told that around here, lower income households that usually must have both parents working, are now getting $650 a week each, which is $5200 a month. They're absolutely having a grand ol' time. That's just word on the street,if true, all the left has to do is stop those checks, both parents will have to go back to work, and the kids go back to public school.

Blogger liberranter May 22, 2020 11:30 PM  

...one of the side-benefits of pushing the lockdown measures in response to Corona-chan is killing the public schools once and for all.

The only problem is that local governments are still collecting property taxes at gunpoint, and these are what are used to fund the Kiddie Day Prisons. They also get funded whether or not they're in session and no matter how few victims they incarcerate and maim.

Until a way can be found to sever property taxation from publik skool funding (property taxes are an evil that needs to be abolished anyway), these institutions of evil will continue to exist like a metastasized form of cancer.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 1:32 AM  

" Early in our discussion of home schooling the wife was intimidated by the notion of teaching our 5yr old to read"

My mom taught me the alphabet, and then phonics, and then how to read at the age of 4, a year before entering kindergarten. I still remember when I finally got it together, and read a book to my cousin, who is a year younger than me.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 1:34 AM  

"The biggest obstacle is the single mom who relies on school as a form of free daycare and free lunch."

Which will make a public school education a stigma.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 1:40 AM  

"Yesterday I read their recommended guidelines for reopening. They're completely unfeasible and there's no way the public schools can meet them. They're so bad that I was left wondering if the creators of the CDC guidelines might actually be trying to destroy public schools."

The teacher's unions have been bellyaching about getting lower student:teacher ratios for decades.

Now, with classroom sizes unchanged, that could happen... EXCEPT the spacing rules necessitate 3x as many classrooms to accomplish the fact.

Too bad for so many school districts that they sold off or even DEMOLISHED over 50% of the buildings they had in 1980.

Simply put, by the CDC's rules, the public schools CAN NOT have as many students enrolled as they had last years. This is going to mean substantially lower budgets, and there's not a damned thing the teacher's unions will be able to do about it. Lower budgets due to 2/3 fewer students with same number of teachers == substantial cut in teacher's pay.

The smart ones (the few who actually are underpaid) will go into business for themselves, running class by ZOOM meeting or what have you.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 2:11 AM  

>> 1. Good private school

> No, because private schools can be just as bad.
Kids are still sitting in class from 8-3 and deal with feminized learning environments and nonsense.

A good private school is about 75%:25% male:female faculty & staff, with 100%:0% in administrative positions.

Blogger Angantyr May 23, 2020 2:13 AM  

Krymneth wrote:OneWingedShark wrote:Consider that they would sacrifice those strongholds if they intended to sacrifice the nation (and the depopulation crowd would) or, perhaps, enslave the nation.

Well, maybe you're right. After all, was it not Sun Tzu who said "When on the verge of victory, throw down the tools you have been using to advance and desert all of your fortifications and strongholds to chase the enemy with your bare hands, and thereby secure the final victory by impressing the enemy with your sheer strength of devotion."

And I think it was Machiavelli who said something like "The foolish prince thinks considerably on their sources of power and control and spends considerable effort to maintain and expand them, and thereby weakens himself. The Prince who wishes to exert his will on his nation instead burns down his sources of power and takes every opportunity to weaken them, and in doing so, will enforce his will on his nation all the more strongly for doing so from a position of weakness. The strongest Prince is the one who burns the most power in the most conspicuous manner."

Who am I to argue with two of history's greatest thinkers? Clearly all their plans are simply coming to fruition.


HA!!! You owe me a new laptop - I spewed beer all over it when I read this, damn you!

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 2:18 AM  

"Journalists are having to seriously consider learning to code. Not that they have much hope in that field but they are being laid off left, right and center!"

Journalists not only won't learn to code, they CAN'T learn to code.

Coding requires attention to all details -- Journalists are notorious for not only getting little things wrong but even major things wrong.

Coding requires honest, dispassionate appraisal of the problem and how to solve it -- See above.

Journ-o-lists don't want to be coders, they want to be "developers" (i.e. they want people to think they're smart enough and organized enough to be coders, without having to do ANY of that sort of work. Being a developer means saying, "we don't have enough G-BLT-extra-mayo-hold-the-lettuce characters. So make the player another GBLT character.")

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 2:24 AM  

"
From a purely financial perspective, if public school is gone (or is held purely online, or requires kids wearing masks) that means either me or my wife leaving work, and losing a six figure income."

You are ghastly.

Basically, you've just told us that you would sell any of your kids into slavery if some ghoul offered you $1,000,000.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 2:28 AM  

" In the old days, whether farming or cottage crafts, the wives really *worked* in their own sphere. In an era before the modern Prussian inspired govt factory school became the fashion then mandatory... Families in small villages and towns did band together to hire a teacher. Think Little House on the Prairie. Full local control. The idea of some specialization is not crazy."

The one-room school house was NOT the Prussian assembly-line school system.

Ever teach a subject? I've learned more about any subject from teaching it to someone than when I took the class myself. Because the people I'm teaching always ask questions about things that I thought were obvious. So I would have to really dig to explain them.

In the one-room school house model, the teacher was primarily teaching the most advanced students, who in turn taught the less-advanced students (thereby improving the advanced students' mastery of the material).

There are exceptions, like when the teacher would be teaching geography or something like that.

The one-room school house teacher was generally NOT teaching the whole class -- otherwise, the school would be perpetually stuck at 1st grade.

Blogger Akulkis May 23, 2020 2:34 AM  

>> Well, maybe you're right. After all, was it not Sun Tzu who said "When on the verge of victory, throw down the tools you have been using to advance and desert all of your fortifications and strongholds to chase the enemy with your bare hands, and thereby secure the final victory by impressing the enemy with your sheer strength of devotion."

I've been in the military since before the 1990-91 Gulf War. I have read Sun Tzu three times. I've also read all 8 books from "On War" by Clausewitz ("On Defense", "On Strategy", "On Tactics", etc.) I don't recall reading any such statement by either author.

Blogger zonnewind May 23, 2020 3:35 AM  

One thing I did notice is that Google has been sponsoring local town broadcaster media here in Netherlands with thousands in relief money with unclear conditions, no doubt to make them dependent and coopt their messaging.

Blogger weka May 23, 2020 4:30 AM  

Without travel all, competitive dance lessons and international vacations they might have enough time to read, work, and think sufficiently to earn a place in the restoration of civilization.

Blogger Ransom Smith May 23, 2020 9:07 AM  

A good private school is about 75%:25% male:female faculty & staff, with 100%:0% in administrative positions.
Except it never stays that way. Teaching pays nothing even in private schools unless you're in admin, so it tends to attract either women or guys who are there mostly to coach sports.
Overtime, the private schools feminize too.
I can personally say due to some firsthand knowledge. I'm watching it happen.

Blogger DonReynolds May 23, 2020 10:07 AM  

I remember an amazing and delightful documentary on public education in the Outback of Australia. (Yes, there are a few people who live there.) The population is sparse and scattered on ranches and farms. Australia is a very big place, but nearly all of the 25 million people who live there are near the coastline. Still, those who live in the remote areas often have children and they need and deserve elementary and secondary education. The nearest school house or campus may be many hours or even days away from where they live. The practical solution was short-wave radio, since there was no telephone service available and the internet was many years later.

Teachers taught their students remotely, by short-wave radio. Students completed their assignments and read the assigned reading and asked questions, all over the radio.

In modern age America, many people assume that the entire country is wired already. Of course, that is not true. There are many places in the US that are still largely remote and do not have reliable telephone service, for a variety of good reasons. (If you have traveled out West with your trusty cell phone, you noticed how long you could drive with No Signal on the phone.) Recently, some internet providers have tied internet to satellite equipment. Not the best or the fastest connections, but it usually works and creates a link with "civilization", as we called it.

It may be that parents and teachers in the Australian Outback have already solved the problem of education for people who are isolated by distance or by pandemic. Indeed, we may be better equipped with the internet today, than in the past with correspondence education by way of the post office. It is not a new invention, in this sense, but it may be a solution for a much wider audience.

Blogger Angantyr May 23, 2020 11:26 AM  

Akulkis wrote:>> Well, maybe you're right. After all, was it not Sun Tzu who said "When on the verge of victory, throw down the tools you have been using to advance and desert all of your fortifications and strongholds to chase the enemy with your bare hands, and thereby secure the final victory by impressing the enemy with your sheer strength of devotion."

I've been in the military since before the 1990-91 Gulf War. I have read Sun Tzu three times. I've also read all 8 books from "On War" by Clausewitz ("On Defense", "On Strategy", "On Tactics", etc.) I don't recall reading any such statement by either author.


Methinks you missed the particularly acidic sarcasm in that post...

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Blogger God Emperor Memes May 23, 2020 5:01 PM  

Public school teachers in...uh..."urban" areas might make little money but many private school teachers are well off.

Blogger Macs May 23, 2020 7:08 PM  

Homeschooling is the next target in the demolishon

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