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Saturday, July 11, 2020

Another gut punch for McRapey

It's really remarkable to learn how many sexual predators John Scalzi is associated with, and apparently, even bankrolls:
This news story hit me like a punch to the gut. It features of accusations of sexual assault and domestic violence against Alan Beatts, the owner of Borderland Books. Borderlands is one of my favorite bookstores in the world; Alan is literally one of the first people I met in the science fiction and fantasy community, and a friend. He’s been a huge supporter of me and my work, and conversely I’ve been a supporter of him and Borderlands. It’s the store I’ve held all my San Francisco events at, basically for as long as I’ve been doing events at all. I’ve supported Borderlands annually as a patron, and I lent the store money to purchase a new building, which it’s currently in the process of moving to.

It actually and genuinely hurt to read these accusations, which I believe. I wrote yesterday on Twitter that I was in shock about it, and I still am. This one stirs up emotions for me in a way I’m not prepared to publicly quantify or express. Suffice to say it hits close to home on a number of levels.

So, about the money I gave to Borderlands for its new store. It’s a loan, and as a loan the store’s LLC pays me back a little each year. I’ve gotten a couple of payments on that loan to date.
At this point, one has to look a little askance at anyone with whom Scalzi associates. My top two suspects for future revelations of this type are Patrick Nielsen Hayden and Jim "McCreepy" Hines.

But seriously, how many confirmed sexual predators do you know? Whereas this guy is apparently surrounded by them. The thing is, pretty much the entire SF community is godless, immoral, and relentlessly depraved. That's why, despite being an author who occasionally writes science fiction, I never wanted anything to do with them after attending my first and only science fiction convention, at which I was one of the featured guests.

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Blogger Jon D. July 11, 2020 1:04 PM  

I would bet money on both of them. Next one: how many young boys has a certain Hugo-defending Star Trek writer groomed?

Blogger Daniel July 11, 2020 1:28 PM  

That Safe Space of his is getting awfully rapey.

Blogger thechortling July 11, 2020 1:31 PM  

and when surrounded, "bad morals corrupt good character". All the haurmphing seems a predecessor to a big tearful McRapey mea culpa reveal? Right now he's trying to play the horrified bystander instead of the knowing, aiding and abetting (and participating?) insider.

Blogger Samuel Adams July 11, 2020 1:40 PM  

From McRapey's post: "This morning I estimated the sum of those payments to date and donated that sum to RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network). I’ll go into my financial records over the weekend to confirm amounts, and if necessary adjust the donation amount upward. At the moment I can’t hazard a guess as to what will happen with regard to the principal of the loan, or any future repayments. I can say that any amount of either that returns to me will immediately go out the door again, to RAINN or to other organizations helping survivors of sexual abuse."

Nice deflection. As he tries to distance himself from this, he can't help but virtue signal. He didn't need to make his support to RAINN public, but guys like him can't help themselves.

Blogger Weak July 11, 2020 1:48 PM  

There haven't been allegations against Patrick Nielsen Hayden and Jim Hives? I honestly thought that there already had been. Especially Hayden.

Seriously, nothing yet on them? That's surprising.

Blogger Starboard July 11, 2020 2:01 PM  

He loves to make it all about himself, doesn't he.

Blogger Tallen July 11, 2020 2:06 PM  

it hits close to home on a number of levels

This is my shocked face.

Blogger JG July 11, 2020 2:15 PM  

Why, exactly, does McRapey believe the allegations? Does he have actual physical evidence? Is he prescient? Was he there? Did he help?

Rhetorical question, I know, I know. It's the ol' "believe all women" nonsense, given his desire to keep spot on the "wanting to get eaten last" list.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 11, 2020 2:24 PM  

How much does anyone want to bet that the "worthy" charity is also a haven for Gropers and their enablers?

Blogger borsabil July 11, 2020 2:29 PM  

A number of high wealth individuals, including Scalzi, handed this guy $2 million no questions asked.

Blogger Chris Lopes July 11, 2020 2:59 PM  

The "how many confirmed sexual predators do you know?" question is spot on. This does point to a problem with the people in the social and professional circles Scalzi travels in. Of course he is psychologically incapable of wondering about such things, but that doesn't mean we can't.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2020 3:00 PM  

> My top two suspects for future revelations of this type are Patrick Nielsen Hayden and Jim "McCreepy" Hines.

I've assumed Hayden and his wife were a given for years now.

> Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network

With a name like that you have to know it's a front for a pedophile organization.

> How much does anyone want to bet that the "worthy" charity is also a haven for Gropers and their enablers?

See above. They have to tell us. It seems to be one of the rules.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 11, 2020 3:32 PM  

Why, exactly, does McRapey believe the allegations?

That was my first reaction. He writes a long paragraph about the closeness of their relationship over the years, and then immediately says he believes them without qualification. In a sane world, you would withhold judgment about your friend until you were sure. I know that's not allowed, but then why wax sentimental about the friendship for so long in the first place? That's the creepiest part: trying to have it both ways to pump the maximum personal virtue out of it: I don't just #BelieveWomen, but I #BelieveWomen when it's ever so hard for me, look how hard it is.

Blogger Canada78Bear July 11, 2020 3:40 PM  

He seems to be subconsciously gravitating to similar people. Would probably mean that others in his orbit are likely going to be showing up in the news.
Association by shared interests.

Blogger DeeJay July 11, 2020 3:43 PM  

Lowest Difficulty Setting, indeed. It's great to know you'll have this Gibbering Mouther at your side, when the going gets rough. (Or at least up to the point when he shoves you under the moving bus wheels, anyway.)

Plus what are the odds Scalzi will be suddenly invoking due process, "innocent until proven guilty!" and friends' character-vouchers when the accusations are inevitably directed toward him?

Blogger Tars Tarkas July 11, 2020 3:52 PM  

I have zero sympathy with any of these people. They are bunch of degenerates and freaks who have utterly destroyed science fiction and even horror.

Time to munch out on some popcorn and watch the freaks destroy each other. Scalzi himself admits to being a rapist, so what else would he do? Birds of a feather flock together.

Blogger rognuald July 11, 2020 4:11 PM  

If scalzi believes the allegations, why associate with this abuser much less offer financial support. Scalzi has admitted knowing about sexual abuse and not doing anything about it. Scalzi needs to get cancelled.

Blogger Zaklog the Great July 11, 2020 4:23 PM  

Part of the problem is that, as far as I can tell, "male feminist" means probable sexual predator, possible rapist.

Blogger Felis Concolor July 11, 2020 4:37 PM  

And of course the "But it's different when we do it!" postscript tacked on to the comments section. They should just auto generate that particular bit of text.

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 11, 2020 4:41 PM  

A possibility here (I'm always giving Scalzi too much credit) is that he's building a narrative over time, to prep his fans for his upcoming epic fantasy / history series. You see, he needs to build street cred with the racial part of the social justice pantheon, by distancing himself slightly from the trans friendly part of social justice. Have to roll with the times. There will be four of five more exposed like this, before the first pig leather bound (goats too expensive) edition is released:

"We Was Secret Kaingz"

Blogger Hammerli 280 July 11, 2020 4:53 PM  

At this rate, we may need to start a list of Morally Wholesome SF Writers.

Blogger Geir Balderson July 11, 2020 4:57 PM  

Scalzi is so sick. I was gonna say more but, that suffices.

Blogger Michael Kingswood July 11, 2020 5:16 PM  

I remember laughing out loud a few years back when Borderlands, after having vocally supporting the SanFran minimum wage increase bill, announced that they were going to have to close up shop because they wouldn't be able to afford to pay the now required higher wages. If memory serves, they saved themselves through a membership/subscription kind of thing? Something like that.

Regardless, with the caveats that accused =/= guilty and I've never actually met or interacted with any of the players involved, I can't say I'm at all surprised by this turn of events.

Blogger Ken Prescott July 11, 2020 5:22 PM  

I knew ONE sexual predator.

He was my boss for six weeks in Japan. Turned out he'd gotten orders cut on no notice from Yuma because Marine Corps CID, Yuma County Sheriff's Department, and NIS were all closing in.

Everyone took an instant dislike to him, he was pointedly NOT let into the Staff NCO clique, and we were all unsurprised, there was something seriously OFF about him.

Blogger Paulito July 11, 2020 5:23 PM  

@8 My guess is that he believes the accusations because he saw them happen and/or helped.

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile July 11, 2020 6:59 PM  

But seriously, how many confirmed sexual predators do you know?

Another bit of female projection: since they endlessly rehash the minutae of their sexual encounters, men must too, and since #AllMenAreRapists, we're all engaged in covering up the rapes we've all been told about and we ourselves brag about to our friends.

The odds are good, simply based on the number of people I've meet in life, that I have known at least one sexual predator. I've never witnessed such a crime, however, nor has anyone ever confessed to me, even though I'm apparently the type of person people feel compelled to tell all sorts of things, unasked for and unwanted.

That anyone who has spent any substantial amount of time around "male feminists" would believe almost all men are creepy sexual predators is no surprise whatsoever.

Blogger Tars Tarkas July 11, 2020 7:11 PM  

I'm listening to the podcast in which these accusations were brought to light. Absolutely cringe city. Freaks and retards. The guy running it is a total SJW.

Blogger VFM Bear July 11, 2020 7:22 PM  

Grooming lawns, grooming kids, potayto, potahto.

I can't wait until Scalzi is a verb.

Blogger Ray - SoCal July 11, 2020 7:29 PM  

Only in SF - City and Genre. What a strange year.

Blogger Curlytop July 11, 2020 7:48 PM  

When does McRapey get his accusations? As stated above, too many associations to be innocent here. Scalzi emanates the degenerative persona. The pic in a dress w the long-suffering dog at his side still haunts me.

Blogger Dire Badger July 11, 2020 7:53 PM  

Back when I was on the street, There used to be this guy named Haddon Clarke that hung out around me.

I got into a fistfight with him at the Bethesda Cares center near Rockville after he threw coffee on me. I chased him halfway around Bethesda planning on beating him bloody.

Two months later, while I was waiting in DEP to get sent to boot camp, I saw a television news program that he was arrested for two murders, and turned out to be a Serial Killer.

You ever have one of those days when you genuinely WISH you had killed someone when you had the chance?

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 11, 2020 7:53 PM  

At this point, one has to look a little askance at anyone with whom Scalzi associates. My top two suspects for future revelations of this type are Patrick Nielsen Hayden and Jim "McCreepy" Hines.

My money is on his good buddy, Grandmaster "Chip."

Admittedly that's shooting fish in a barrel.

Blogger buwaya July 11, 2020 8:05 PM  

Funny connections in this. I was a frequent patron of Borderlands since more or less its opening. There were more independent bookstores around in those days though. The go-to for SF/Fantasy in the area actually was Other Change of Hobbit in Berkeley, a quick BART ride from SF, which is gone now.

Last I was in Borderlands (in its Valencia St. location) was sometime in 2018. They were doing author lectures readings and so on. It did not strike me as being creepy at the time, vis-a-vis the usual SF independent bookstore vibe, which has always been extremely nerdy. But who knows what shabby things go on out of sight.

Blogger buwaya July 11, 2020 8:24 PM  

The last sf con I was at was in the 90's (Baycon). By that time it was in rather scandalous condition due to the clique that was running it - for financial/management reasons. I can't say that there was anything sexual going on, though I did see Marion Zimmer Bradley and her camarilla there. To be fair, Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven were regulars at Baycon.

Blogger James Dixon July 11, 2020 8:25 PM  

> At this rate, we may need to start a list of Morally Wholesome SF Writers.

I'm afraid it might be a very short list. Our esteemed host. Pournelle. Maybe Niven?

It would be a worthwhile project though.

Blogger urthshu July 11, 2020 8:36 PM  

With all those around him falling he must feel like a circa-80s SF bath house habitue.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist July 11, 2020 8:47 PM  

Vox and ilk, are you folks aware of this whole Wayfair scandal that's blowing up?

Twitter thread:

http://tinyurl.com/ydbhufjn

Also just check Bing for news on the company.

Interesting stuff.

Blogger Jim July 11, 2020 8:51 PM  

"It actually and genuinely hurt to read these accusations, which I believe."

Loyalty is an alien concept to these people. If it were a common virtue on the right, all this nonsense would have been crushed ages ago.

Blogger Terrific July 11, 2020 9:00 PM  

With friends like this...

"It [sic] actually and genuinely hurt to read these accusations, WHICH I BELIEVE."

WTF? Isn't the NORMAL response supposed to be, "I am stunned to hear these accusations! I can't IMAGINE a friend of MINE being accused of such a heinous crime. In all the years I've known him he has NEVER appeared to me to be a pervert in ANY WAY. Up to today, if you'd asked me, I'd have said I'd trust him with my children. I cannot believe these charges."

Instead we get...

"It [sic] actually and genuinely hurt to read these accusations, WHICH I BELIEVE."

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile July 11, 2020 10:24 PM  

Loyalty is an alien concept to these people.

As is friendship. To them the world consists of victims, enemies, and co-conspirators. Two out of three of these categories are entirely expendable as needs must.

Blogger Azimus July 11, 2020 10:27 PM  

Guess what Scalzi, there's a club, and you're NOT a member. Thank your lucky stars you were only a useful idiot for the dark side, wise up and mend your bad ways.

Blogger JC July 11, 2020 10:40 PM  

Who would want to live like these people?

I can't imagine living a life where I am in constant danger of being ostracised and where my friends will abandon and condemn me based on hearsay from another. Those who turn from God, really do create Hell on Earth and try to drag everybody down with them.

Blogger flyingtiger July 11, 2020 10:47 PM  

#: Good point. I do not know these people, so I am willing to wait until I hear all the evidence before I pass judgment. He knows them and he quickly condemns them. What does he know?

Blogger aps July 12, 2020 12:25 AM  

"This one stirs up emotions for me in a way I’m not prepared to publicly quantify or express."

What an odd position for a writer to take.

Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2020 1:12 AM  

> Vox and ilk, are you folks aware of this whole Wayfair scandal that's blowing up?

As I noted to someone else earlier, when Snopes bothers to disclaim it, you know something is up: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wayfair-trafficking-children/

Blogger Jack Amok July 12, 2020 1:55 AM  

If you meet someone who runs an indie bookstore in Frisco, it's at least 50-50 odds they're sexually screwed up somehow.

Blogger Trid July 12, 2020 2:57 AM  

Had the misfortune to read ringworld in high school. Took a decade for it to sink in how icky a person would have to be to write those alien broads the way Niven did.

Blogger John Rockwell July 12, 2020 3:02 AM  

Reset the Clock. Clap* Clap* Clap*

Blogger John Rockwell July 12, 2020 3:04 AM  

DeeJay wrote:Lowest Difficulty Setting, indeed. It's great to know you'll have this Gibbering Mouther at your side, when the going gets rough. (Or at least up to the point when he shoves you under the moving bus wheels, anyway.)

Plus what are the odds Scalzi will be suddenly invoking due process, "innocent until proven guilty!" and friends' character-vouchers when the accusations are inevitably directed toward him?


Well the Commissar will not care as he shoots Scalzi and dumps him and his sons in a mass grave.

Anonymous Anonymous July 12, 2020 4:50 AM  

What confuses me the most about this scandal is that no one seems to be paying attention to something the guy's daughter said, in the article that McRapey is linking to in his dreck: she made out with her own dad. She participated, and is now claiming she has forced?

Quote:

The younger Beatts said she laughed off the comment. When the two of them reached her apartment, “we kissed,” DoveStep wrote. “He came into the apartment with me and we began making out.”

When her father then allegedly led her over to her couch and attempted to take off her clothes, DoveStep immediately tried to slide away, she wrote. “When his advances didn’t stop, I pushed myself onto the floor,” the younger Beatts wrote. “He came after me, off the couch on hands and knees as I began pushing myself backwards towards the wall.”

Blogger Troushers July 12, 2020 5:52 AM  

Wow, That's The Tenth Close Friend Who Turned Out To Be A Satanist Who Murdered Prostitutes While Dressed As Sonic The Hedgehog - Really Making Me Think Soulfully About The Problem Of People Who Murder Prostitutes While Dressed As Sonic The Hedgehog.

Blogger Felix Bellator July 12, 2020 6:06 AM  

@46 Jack Amok, If you meet someone in Frisco, it's at least 50-50 odds they're sexually screwed up somehow.

FIFY.

@50 Jase in the Sky, worse than that is her admission that she knew for years that Alan Beatts preyed on others yet she did nothing. It would be hard to call out a parent, even in these circumstances. Leading up to this Beatts' daughter was worried about engaging in BDSM with her boyfriend. Then Beatts says he would want to have sex with his daughter if she wasn't his daughter? Creepy, but it's not like we are talking about people tightly held, Biblical moral standards here.

Makes one wonder if Lovecraft wasn't writing fiction.

Blogger Akulkis July 12, 2020 7:55 AM  

@37

Oh wow. That Wayfair thing isn't just a rabbit hole, it's an open pit mine.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( +24 children have been shot in Chicago this year by black gang bangers. Num of children shot by Cops? 0 ) July 12, 2020 1:16 PM  

following the San Francisco Pride Parade. In the post, Beatts recounts an escalating encounter with her father following a day of heavy drinking.
...
“You realize I’m saying that I would want to have sex with you,” he said eventually.

The younger Beatts said she laughed off the comment. When the two of them reached her apartment, “we kissed,” DoveStep wrote. “He came into the apartment with me and we began making out.”

When her father then allegedly led her over to her couch and attempted to take off her clothes, DoveStep immediately tried to slide away, she wrote. “When his advances didn’t stop, I pushed myself onto the floor,” the younger Beatts wrote. “He came after me, off the couch on hands and knees as I began pushing myself backwards towards the wall.”


a drunk man tells his daughter that he would like to have sex with her, then kisses her
...
and her response is to MAKE OUT WITH HIM?

what a fine pair they are.

but, you know, they were just following the example of the Gay Pride parade.


39. Terrific July 11, 2020 9:00 PM
In all the years I've known him he has NEVER appeared to me to be a pervert in ANY WAY.


but you see, that's the problem.

Scalzi has known these people for years ... and knows that they are perverts!

Marion Zimmer Bradley, Samuel Delaney, Arthur Clarke, Robert Heinlein and many more ...

Blogger map July 12, 2020 3:07 PM  

Alex Jones had an interesting take on Wayfair. He said that stunts like these are a disinformation campaign, a mockingbird op to distract from something real.

It's not that there are no pedos trading kids. He acknowledges that is true. He says this is an outrageous story that contains lies that will be used to distract and debunk from real pedo arrests. For example, it may come out that none of the kids are missing or that no kids were actually being shipped in containers.

It is similar to the "Comet Pizza has no basement" counter-argument when it was claimed that CP had a dungeon where they were torturing kids.

Meanwhile, this actually happened:

https://www.dw.com/en/berlin-authorities-placed-children-with-pedophiles-for-30-years/a-53814208

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( +24 children have been shot in Chicago this year by black gang bangers. Num of children shot by Cops? 0 ) July 12, 2020 4:22 PM  

55. map July 12, 2020 3:07 PM
when it was claimed that CP had a dungeon where they were torturing kids.


the "dungeon" was reputed to be in a different part of DC.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( +24 children have been shot in Chicago this year by black gang bangers. Num of children shot by Cops? 0 ) July 12, 2020 7:33 PM  

55. map July 12, 2020 3:07 PM
Alex Jones had an interesting take on Wayfair.


Alex Jones is best friends with Charlie Sheen.

so it's hilarious that he's accusing someone else of being a limited hang out.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist July 12, 2020 8:40 PM  

@54 furor kek

"Marion Zimmer Bradley, Samuel Delaney, Arthur Clarke, Robert Heinlein and many more ..."

David Azimov...the pedophilia fetish evident in Piers Anthony, Stephen King, Anne Rice...

SF/F is a cesspool.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist July 12, 2020 8:46 PM  

@55 map

I'll ignore the strange nic in light of this, but... Alefantis said in an Instagram post that showed a pallet of tomatoes, that they were all made into tomato sauce and stored in "the basement", for what it's worth.

Nothing was debunked, except by the magic of repeating "it was debunked" a thousand times.

Blogger Banjo July 13, 2020 5:39 PM  

@Trid, don’t lump Niven in with McRapey for... anything.

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