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Wednesday, July 29, 2020

We can only hope

Left-wing politicians are anticipating martial law:
CNN: Let me ask you, mayor, because some of these images, they’re ugly. I mean, a Starbucks destroyed in the protests, a construction site for a juvenile detention facility set on fire, Seattle police say officers were burned when protesters threw explosive devices at them, and look, a lot of what’s happening here, this is not peaceful. This is just violent and destructive, and the president says he thinks mayors like you are refusing his help and those standby forces because he’s the one offering it. Does he have a point?”

Seattle Mayor: No. Again, the president’s actions clearly have escalated things in Seattle, and across the country. I was just talking to a number of mayors throughout the country who saw a similar thing that — people wanting to act out against the president and his administration coming to the streets. I believe, if you look at what happened yesterday and Sunday, again, it was peaceful. We had a number of peaceful protests. And what we’ve seen is, every time this president promises to sow division, he’s successful at it. And he’s clearly targeted cities run by Democratic mayors. He’s said so himself. He’s using law enforcement as a political tool. I hate to say it, Erin, but I really believe that we are seeing the dry run for martial law. This is a president that is using law enforcement and federal forces for political purposes, and that should be chilling to every American.
The Republic failed. Democracy has failed. Liberalism, in both the proto-SJW and the classical senses, has failed. Conservatism has failed. Socialism has failed. This means that a return to some form of authoritarian government is inevitable, and the only question is precisely what form it will take.

Better the likes of Franco, Duterte, Putin, and Xi than Merkel, Macron, Trudeau, May, and the rest of the Promethean mediocrities. The historical trends are inevitable, but that doesn't mean one has to suffer Neros and Caligulas when there are Augustuses and Aureliuses available.

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Blogger RandyB July 29, 2020 10:04 AM  

Doesn't history show that one ultimately suffers both the preferable and the abysmal?

Pray for good rulers. Pray to get them, and pray for them when we have them.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 29, 2020 10:12 AM  

Yep. My take has been Peron or Pinochet?
Any and all not choosing will be run over by both sides - I am thinking of those nice churchians.

Blogger B-Rex July 29, 2020 10:13 AM  

Better a ceaser from your own people who likes his own people than a "elected" leader who hates your guts

Blogger Darren July 29, 2020 10:17 AM  

CNN: "...some of these images, they’re ugly. I mean, a Starbucks destroyed in the protests"

Finally acknowledging reality once you hit 'em where it hurts!

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira July 29, 2020 10:24 AM  

Peaceful protesters who were forced to cause violence, because Orangeman, "escalated".

Blogger cecilhenry July 29, 2020 10:29 AM  

I would assume this 'martial law' needs to come before November 4 as opposed to after it.


Asking for a friend

Blogger van helsing July 29, 2020 10:29 AM  

not just churchians. don't forget the cuckertarians. they still think they are above it all. they dont realize they are just wearing the constitution as a skinsuit as they flood the country with immivaders, allow mass abortion and petition for free pot.

Blogger Crew July 29, 2020 10:36 AM  

I would support King Donald J Trump!

Blogger Inquisitor Benedictus July 29, 2020 10:37 AM  

Sounds like you're tired of civilisation and just hope it's your kind of barbarian that replaces it.

Blogger rikjames.313 July 29, 2020 10:39 AM  

Be smart, be safe. In Detroit the protests have been quiet since the first two days when the gang members started shooting. People are mostly protesting in the morning during ghetto sleeping hours.

However, the ghetto is blazing. People are just opening up on cars that looks like rivals family members cars. People are shooting into crowds over disses about shoes. On the freeways, even in areas that are mostly white, they are blasting for not getting out of the way of going too slow.

In white stores asking a diverse to wear a mask is to risk a beating.

Stay far away from diversity this year

Blogger Stilicho July 29, 2020 10:44 AM  

Don't be surpised if the democrats (and their antifa/blm troops) escalate the violence after the 2020 Trumpslide. Their existence is threatened by Trump so they will do anything within their power to delegitimize and overthrow the Trump administration.

Blogger Ingemar July 29, 2020 10:46 AM  

I recalled your stance of "embrace your extremists" and it looks like Trump heeded your advice. He has openly courted those Catholics that have resisted both Vatican II and Pope Jorge the Humble. Without getting too deep into the inside baseball, the Council is what transmogrified the Catholic Church into a globalist social welfare scam that has enabled immivasion.

Blogger Father Vinnie July 29, 2020 10:51 AM  

"Better the likes of Franco, Duterte, Putin, and Xi than Merkel, Macron, Trudeau, May, and the rest of the Promethean mediocrities."

Vox, this is absolutely true. And yet, those who say such things in the churches, in the schools, and in the media will be instantly "vibed" out of any sort of acceptable society. This is an enormous step to take for regular people; their personal Overton window has not been moved since Ronald Reagan was president. I am a Christian teacher in a "Christian" school, and if I were to say in my World History class (for instance) what you just wrote, I would be chased out of town by a crowd of angry and overweight churchians. So I won't say it. This sucks.

But I do know that what you say is objectively true; we don't need to advocate for it. It simply is. The current thesis will inevitably lead to the ugly antithesis, and we do need to be ready for it.

Thanks for having the guts to tell it like it is. It seems that "conservatives" are all secretly hoping that things will go back to normal. But you have pointed out that "normal" is neither possible nor to be desired.

Well done.

Blogger Silent Draco July 29, 2020 10:56 AM  

I read Jerry Pournelle's future history series and TWBW as allegory and prophecy, not Mil SF. A time of kings and lords is returning, because of and not despite democracy. Pray for and support the good men.

Blogger The Greay Man July 29, 2020 10:57 AM  

Remember when we used to think martial law was a bad idea?

The ways we've changed the past decade.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov July 29, 2020 11:15 AM  

There is no need for martial law in this case. Democracy will work fine. Trump is letting the Democrats self destruct. Democrats will get blown out at all levels in November.
Normies are blaming the Democrats and their pets for the violence and destruction. Democrats are starting to notice. I wonder what happens when the real panic sets in? Riots have already been tried.

Blogger Enjcj July 29, 2020 11:22 AM  

So I should be praying for a return of a Christian Monarchy then.

Blogger Libertarian July 29, 2020 11:26 AM  

We're gonna need a bigger helicopter.

Blogger Balazs Varga July 29, 2020 11:31 AM  

I would happily live under King Trump, but Xi I'm not really sanguine about. Communism is bad.

Read the tale of Hungarian kings, many were inept, but we had a lot of really competent ones and very, very few likes of Nero or Caligula.

If you vote Democrat, inept is the very best you can hope for.

Blogger VD July 29, 2020 11:38 AM  

Sounds like you're tired of civilisation and just hope it's your kind of barbarian that replaces it.

Democracy is not civilization. In fact, the evidence increasingly suggests that democracy is not compatible with civilization, which is probably why the Founding Fathers warned against it and designed a system to strictly limit it.

Blogger Leahn Novash July 29, 2020 11:39 AM  

Sounds like you are delusional. Civilization is no more and hasn't been for a while. What you see now is merely social inertia as huge portions of the population are refusing to acknowledge reality, and act like everything is normal. They will come around at an accelerating pace but not everyone will understand this until everything collapses around them. Matthew 24:37-39 comes to mind.

Blogger Shoji Kahn July 29, 2020 11:41 AM  

> There is no need for martial law in this case. Democracy will work fine.

Trump at best is a speed bump. Do the demographic math. You can't vote yourself out of what's coming.

Blogger brbrophy July 29, 2020 11:42 AM  

Mass deportation sounds like a very good idea to me. Like King Alfred expelling the Vikings but politically more difficult.

Blogger Leahn Novash July 29, 2020 11:48 AM  

Normies have the brain of birds and memory of fishes. They will be swearing on their mother's graves that everything was Trump's fault in less than 15 days.

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 29, 2020 11:55 AM  

JaimeInTexas wrote:Yep. My take has been Peron or Pinochet?

If we're smart, we're looking for a Pinochet.

Ingemar wrote:I recalled your stance of "embrace your extremists" and it looks like Trump heeded your advice. He has openly courted those Catholics that have resisted both Vatican II and Pope Jorge the Humble. Without getting too deep into the inside baseball, the Council is what transmogrified the Catholic Church into a globalist social welfare scam that has enabled immivasion.

The fact that the letters "SJ" follow ol' Jorge's name definitely gives many of us in the pews a reason to be skeptical, at the very minimum. When news broke that Taylor Marshall was part of the "Catholics for Trump" group, a lot of the churchians I've encountered have lost their collective minds. Hell, even some of the trads I know have, too (because Marshall and his family had the nerve to attend Easter Mass at an SSPX chapel).

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 29, 2020 11:56 AM  

Well, if you read Miles Mathis, then the corrupt like monarchies. All they have to do is marry into it, and then they control everything within a very short time. It is easier to control a single corrupted family, than it is to pay off over half the voters in a large country.

It's a "throw me in the briar patch" dare.

The Prometheans control the Bidens, the Clintons, the Pelosis, and the Feinsteins. Only one of those names is a family of the usual suspects. The Roosevelts, alone, had two presidents and however many power brokers, on both sides of the political aisle. They all acted to subvert the written Constitution, and all of the customs- do not switch parties, do not run for President more than twice- and that is just one family.

Consider, if you will, how much damage they do even when they are not the supreme executive, even when they do not command the servile obedience that the Queen seems to inspire in British subjects. Consider how related they already are to everyone in media, and then all the names of their nephews, nieces.

No. They are going broke. Most of their media is going broke. Force them to continue on spending money to scramble for power.

Their tax base is shrinking: their cities are failing. Their minions are not having children. Their media is going bankrupt. Their mall based stores are failing. Their malls, which drained off stores from main street, are failing. Their human trafficking schemes are being rolled up, and presumably failing. Their only successful groomed generation- the Boomers- are retiring and dying. No money, no warm bodies.

Would you let anyone take the chance to be Brutus/ Booth/ Macwhomever killed Macbeth? It's a gambit. They want martial law. They want to blacken Trump's name for all eternity. They want a chance to kill him and salt the ground of every Trump property, and then kill off his entire family: he has children, grandchildren, cousins. Those cousins, in general, are responsible, hardworking, good citizens.




Blogger Rabid Ratel July 29, 2020 12:03 PM  

There seems to be some trolls that need a kicking.

Blogger Jim July 29, 2020 12:04 PM  

The savage is beaten by the civilized. The civilized is beaten by the domesticated. The domesticated is beaten by the savage.

The civilized were beaten decades ago.

Blogger thethirdcoast July 29, 2020 12:05 PM  

Sounds like typical Leftist projection - always accuse the other side of what your side is planning to do.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 29, 2020 12:08 PM  

Also, if you have martial law, you have identified law enforcement. As it is, antifa is up against unidentified law enforcement. They are losing against unidentified law enforcement. They are not prepared for the legal to be behaving in a wise as serpents fashion, within the law.

So far, I've seen videos of Antifa blinding uniformed law enforcement with lasers. They burn down identified legal buildings- courthouses, police stations, and such. We saw attempted assassins going after Trump on the campaign trail. They would time actions based on obvious Secret Service details. The controversial hearings had visible reactions based on uniform, identified personnel.

What they have not accounted for is things like retired officers coming out of retirement to work. They have not counted on all the different militarized or trained government agencies. I mean, even the student loan division has a SWAT team, from what I've read. Antifa has a lot of former college students with huge student loans.

Each of the corrupt political actors seems to have a corrupt private life. Say what you will about women voters being emotional and gossipy- the power of EWWW, Totally Gross- is a real thing. I can't take the WHO seriously since that one photo of the head of it all gayed up at a bar. I had to go dig last election to find one article referring to how stinky Hillary Clinton was. That fact alone, changed votes of women I mentioned it to.

The suburbs like clean people. Democrats are not clean.

Blogger Noah B. July 29, 2020 12:14 PM  

"I would happily live under King Trump, but Xi I'm not really sanguine about. Communism is bad."

Regardless of what the leaders call themselves, China isn't a communist country. There is less wealth redistribution in China than there is in the US and most of Europe.

Blogger Tallen July 29, 2020 12:14 PM  

Man was made for a King, not to be a King. But the Lord is gracious and may grant us one.

But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king.

Blogger tublecane July 29, 2020 12:16 PM  

There are, per usual, layers of deception and psychosis in statements such as hers. It makes me more uncomfortable than usual given we're talking about deliberate abandonment of the most basic function of governance. But allow me to run through this lady's excuse for a brain.

The upshot, of course, is that everything bad is Trump's fault, and that if Trump has his way there's worse to come. Which hardly needs be articulated. I take it for granted.

Otherwise, what is she saying?:

1. They want Trump to attempt martial law, and are frustrated that he hasn't tried yet

2. They dearly desire the authority to impose martial law themselves, and assume everyone else feels the same

3. They feel the need to explain why Democrat-run cities are hellholes, because they know regular folk will (correctly) blame:

a. the people who live there
b. the people who run them

4. The old "Republicans are divisive" rhetorical ploy present, if devoid of energy

5. The new "peaceful protest" as in "peaceful until something came in from outside to make them unpeaceful" rhetorical ploy is indispensable these days, no matter how risible. Though I guess repetition of "peace" works on the minds of stupid people

6. Using X, Y, and Z "for political purposes" out of the mouth of a Deep Stater would be a more meaningful statement. Out of the mouth of this dimestore politician, it just means Trump is on the wrong team and shouldn't have authority over anything

7. Also, "law enforcement for political purposes" is what has to happen to tear down the Deep State Cabal (or cabals) as well as Trump's criminal political opponents. So obviously she must say he can't do that

Blogger Off The Wall July 29, 2020 12:20 PM  

VD wrote:Sounds like you're tired of civilisation and just hope it's your kind of barbarian that replaces it.

Democracy is not civilization. In fact, the evidence increasingly suggests that democracy is not compatible with civilization, which is probably why the Founding Fathers warned against it and designed a system to strictly limit it.


Nicely put Vox. I was simply going to tell "Inquisitor Benedictus" to ...

Come back when you're tall enough for the ride.

Blogger DonReynolds July 29, 2020 12:21 PM  

The ignorant often have it so much better. Imagine being a would-be revolutionary in Portland, or Seattle, or Minneapolis, with the knowledge of what always happens AFTER the revolution. In France, in Russia, in England, in America, in China... revolution begats civil war (and foreign intervention) and during/after the war, they get military dictatorship, and a gradual return to civil rule. The apparent objectives of the revolution are very seldom achieved and the resulting society may bear no resemblance to what the revolutionaries ever hoped or expected. How that must bear on the minds of today's revolutionaries, unless they are completely ignorant of history. But of course, THIS time will be different, otherwise there would never be another revolution.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 29, 2020 12:25 PM  

And today: Defense Secretary Esper says the plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Germany "will reposition approximately 11,900 military personnel ... in a manner that will strengthen NATO, enhance the deterrence of Russia and meet the other principles I set forth."

Blogger S1AL July 29, 2020 12:32 PM  

"So I should be praying for a return of a Christian Monarchy then."

Only if you like civil wars every couple generations. There are a number of reasons that the three oldest extant forms of civilized government today are Federalist Republics.

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"Democracy is not civilization. In fact, the evidence increasingly suggests that democracy is not compatible with civilization, which is probably why the Founding Fathers warned against it and designed a system to strictly limit it."

To borrow from Franklin:

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

And

"... I believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."

The Founders weren't idiots.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 29, 2020 12:34 PM  

"Sounds like you're tired of civilisation..."

Only if illiterate or a moron. Pull your head out of your posterior and listen more closely.

Blogger tuberman July 29, 2020 12:37 PM  

30. Ariadne Umbrella

Yes, you're correct, as lots of new information on these rioters is being unveiled. Could be that a big portion of the arrested are certified school teachers in the public school system?

Blogger Ranger July 29, 2020 12:38 PM  

https://youtu.be/cydkTy6GmFA

Orson Welles, in "The third man" talking about what is, probably, the most functional democracy the word has seen, compared with despotism.
Yes, democracy is definitely NOT a requirement for civilization.

Blogger Jason July 29, 2020 12:40 PM  

Unfortunately, we are on a downward spiral. Naturally speaking, we are in an impossible situation. It will require supernatural intervention, similar to the period of peace brought to Mexico by Our Lady of Guadalupe.

Blogger Jim July 29, 2020 12:43 PM  

S1AL wrote:The Founders weren't idiots.

The ones not named "Jefferson," at least.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 29, 2020 12:44 PM  

The version of "escalation" is revealing. Targeted atavism in response to tweets as policy.

There is something in the acknowledgement that their people are savage mindless reactants. Helps clarify how best to treat with them.

Blogger rikjames.313 July 29, 2020 12:48 PM  

Trump just rescinded the AFFH rule. I expect a federal judge will rule against him in the next 4 days

Summary: Obama was forcing suburb towns to put welfare apartment buildings in middle class single family home areas.

Blogger Crew July 29, 2020 12:51 PM  

The God-Emperor Trump has my fealty!

Blogger VFM Bear July 29, 2020 12:58 PM  

I vote for a Dufrancochet for dictator!

Blogger Johnny July 29, 2020 1:06 PM  

>Franco

Franco gave power over to the Monarch who brought Spain back to Liberalism. Franco was a Monarchist reactionary. They're only capable of being loyal followers of Third Positionist leaders at best and servants of Liberalism/Marxism at worst. They constantly tried to ankle bite Hitler, Mussolini, and Codreanu while those three were fighting the good fight.

If Conservatives have conserved nothing for 60 years, Reactionaries have conserved nothing for 600 years. They also seem to share Conservative anti-racism sentiments judging by how much they try to virtue signal by purity spiraling against the Third Position.

Duterte, Putin, and Xi are mostly solid though. They're Third Position in all but name. That's the key to victory. Just be Third Position while having good optics.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 29, 2020 1:15 PM  

They so desperately want a Kent State they can film for the news at 11. They started these riots to get that, and now they can't turn it off. All they can do is claim he has the magic power to make people riot by saying mean things.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 29, 2020 1:20 PM  

You see, my concern around the second amendment has nothing to do with "protecting/saving" America.
Sometimes I think they meant freedom in general when they said "a free state".
It's coming down, but I'm not going to be stuck with a single shot .22 and be on a list just to have it while the leftists are sporting fresh new fully auto Chicom AK variants.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 29, 2020 1:27 PM  

Normies .... will be swearing on their mother's graves that everything was Trump's fault in less than 15 days.

Why 15 days? Why not yesterday? The media has been pushing the narrative that Trump breeds violence for a while. Since he took office, really, though they've ramped it up for the riots. If it hasn't worked on most normies yet, how do you know it will?

Blogger Jose Miguel July 29, 2020 1:42 PM  

@S1AL

These federal republics you mention have civil war every 100-150 years. No federal republic has lasted longer than 300 years, while Christian monarchies have lasted from 300 to 1900 years.

Monarchy over every form of oligarchy every time in my book. Franco forever!

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 29, 2020 1:46 PM  

By the way, at the House Judiciary hearing where they tried to hang the riots on Trump, the Democrats tried to get Barr to say under oath that he wouldn't release Durham's report before the election. Durham's investigation has nothing to do with the riots, of course. The congressette even suggested that to release it would be interfering with the election, which is a clear admission that they expect it to be bad for Democrats, especially Biden. They're scared.

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" July 29, 2020 2:05 PM  

Wow, Theresa May, i almost forgot the woman even existed!

Blogger Leahn Novash July 29, 2020 2:12 PM  

The revolutionaries know very well what will happen. They just hope that they will be on top when everything is said and done. What you are talking about are not revolutionaries but merely useful idiots.

Blogger RadixMalorum July 29, 2020 2:14 PM  

Enjcj wrote:So I should be praying for a return of a Christian Monarchy then.

With today's subverted western churches that might not be a good idea.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville July 29, 2020 2:17 PM  

Wheeler was a decade early.

Blogger tublecane July 29, 2020 2:18 PM  

[Forgive this digression; I am 1/8th Swiss]

@40- That line is a good joke, but it's tendentious and insensitive to reality. For Swiss history has its share of achievement in Higher Culture.

For a long while they were a premier military power.

They were a center of Protestant Reformation. Unfortunately. But we're not distinguishing between good and evil in this context. Orson Welles' character was justifying his own evil. So come onboard, Calvinism. (John Calvin was French, I know, but his [ir]religion spread out of Geneva.)

Then there's the litany of great names, which rightly or wrongly are remembered in Western history:

Paracelsus
Rousseau
Bernays
the Bernoulli
Jung
Piaget
Rochemont
Goddard
Henry Fuseli
Benjamin Constant
Zwingli
H.R. Giger
Albert Gallatin

Blogger tublecane July 29, 2020 2:21 PM  

@50- Before he took office. Or have you forgotten the Summer of '16, when fiendish White Zombie Hordes ripped apart righteous peoples of color minding their own business?

Blogger yoyoyoBigD July 29, 2020 2:42 PM  

USA has a huge karmic debt to pay for all the satanic shit that has poured out of this country, I very much doubt its citizens will get off easy.

Those favoured by the Holy Trinity will be somewhat shielded by the upcoming disaster.

Blogger boogeyman July 29, 2020 2:45 PM  

A wise person once told me these people always project, therefore I expect a suspension of the Constitution and gulags for anyone to the right of AOC should Biden win.

I swear, if Pinochet were to rise from the grave and run as an independent, I would vote for him in a heart beat.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 29, 2020 2:52 PM  

#39: From my experience with lefties: teachers, social workers, NGO workers, college professors, adjunct professors, graduate students, lawyers, union members, writers, tech writers, playwrights, government workers, mothers, service personnel- chefs, waiters, drivers, prostitutes. Prostitute is considered kind of a prestige position.

Unions will task members off to various states to campaign for Democrats. They skirt the laws by saying "voter education" but amazingly enough, it's always education towards a Democrat future. I saw men in motorcycle leathers getting too close to the polling station in Democrat shirts under their leathers, last presidential election. Women, nice women from the elementary school that hosted the polling place, had to go out to ask them to move away from the polls. Not shrieking harridans, nice, sweet, Christian young women and middle-aged, sweet women facing off against motorcycle gang looking men.

Government workers despise, viscerally despise, people in private work.

I mean, what happens when a union electrician employed by the city doesn't like you? What if a wastewater employee doesn't like you?


We know IRS agents do things like dig through household trash, if they have a sneaking suspicion about your money. There's a marathon runner who was audited by an IRS agent, based on the IRS agent thinking the man had too much money because he flew to races out of state.

What about CPS? We know they are poor. We know they have masters degrees. We know that they have the lowest Wordsum scores of any professionals. We have newspaper reports where the heads of state CPS agencies say that 96% of all calls are not for child abuse. And that was in an article asking for more funding. Who is calling CPS at a 96% false positive rate? What happens to those children? We know that some states have trafficking issues, from CPS and foster care.

We know that elementary teachers, in general, cannot do math, and have low wordsum scores. We know that education bureaucrats are not necessarily literate, or numerate. There are essays by illiterate high school teachers. The head of the Detroit- a major Dem city- is half literate, at best.



My birth family is hard left. They don't get messed with, even when they do something wrong. I am right, and Christian. My life experience with reps from the state goes a bit differently than theirs.

The lasers thing bothers me. Protest movements in Asian protests use the lasers to blind surveillance cameras. Why are Americans using them to blind policemen?

Why is the chaotic left trying to deprive normal people of peaceful means of defiance. I mean, British natives ought to be able to disable CCTV cameras with lasers, but now lasers will be banned for harming humans. Most lefty cities have CCTV in their core sections.

We know cities can be flattened and the real estate devalued for 100 years. East St Louis is only now slowly coming back after a race riot 100 years ago. It does not make sense for an individual individualist, but if you are thinking like the people that Anonymous Conservative studies, then providing for one's grandchildren by guaranteeing them extensive real estate with solid buildings, makes sense. They have confidence in rebuilding, since all these other cities in Asia rebound, millenium by millenium.

The case for the long view is the two professors who tried to get a wealthy family to cut down the trees in an untouched region in California. The family's answer was that they wished to keep it treed over and fertile, for possible profitable use in 100+ years. So there are definitely families that think long-term.



Blogger Hammerli 280 July 29, 2020 3:06 PM  

A muscular "authoritarian" state need not be an autocracy. It may well be a fully functional republic. But it WILL maintain order, and discipline those who subvert order with a strong hand.

Frankly, the United States USED to have such a government. In the Crisis of 1828, Andrew Jackson made it crystal-clear that he would use force to suppress secessionists. During Reconstruction, Grant used military force to suppress the KKK. And in the 1950s, it wasn't a piece of paper from a court that desegregated schools, it was the threat of the 101st Airborne.

The situation we have now is one where the Left is using the threat of their mobs to intimidate the public...and the threat of prosecution by local governments to prevent the public from protecting themselves.

I think Trump is letting this fester to get justification for a hard crackdown. Especially since if he declares an area to be in a state of insurrection, there can be no question of opening polls there. :-)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 29, 2020 3:10 PM  

Keep her talking, ask her questions to keep her talking, since no one discredits and disqualifies a Leftist like themselves.

Blogger weka July 29, 2020 3:13 PM  

The only good thing about the riots is the loss of that purveyor of horrible coffee.

Blogger Leahn Novash July 29, 2020 3:48 PM  

Because normies still somewhat remember that the riots were violent since the onset. It takes a while for the narrative to be repeated enough times so they start to doubt their own memories, and a further while more to be convinced that the narrative is "true".

Blogger preapprehension July 29, 2020 3:49 PM  

I was recently looking at google map's street view of some rural places I'd been to in Russia's far east twenty years ago, and I couldn't believe how transformed they looked. Back then everything was crumbling buildings, dingy, and obvious poverty; now everything looks shiny, clean, and thriving. Meanwhile much of the US is either stagnant or deteriorating. I haven't followed Putin closely so maybe he's deserving of all the hatred he gets from the US press, but anecdotally it seems like Russia is doing really well under him.

Blogger Leahn Novash July 29, 2020 3:51 PM  

It's not USA. The country is merely a vessel.

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" July 29, 2020 3:56 PM  

@57

You missed off Tom Warrior and Celtic Frost from that list!

Blogger Pathfinderlight July 29, 2020 4:57 PM  

It was known well before the founding that Italian city state politics often led to bloodshed, and the HRE elections for emperor worked on a system of kickbacks.

Blogger Ransom Smith July 29, 2020 5:00 PM  

No federal republic has lasted longer than 300 years, while Christian monarchies have lasted from 300 to 1900 years.
Name a single monarchy that has lasted that long without a revolution.
England had what, four, in a seven
hundred year period.

Blogger Pathfinderlight July 29, 2020 5:09 PM  

Give a history lesson comparing and contrasting Chile under the terms of presidents Allende and Pinochet.

Blogger Angantyr July 29, 2020 5:48 PM  

yoyoyoBigD wrote:USA has a huge karmic debt to pay for all the satanic shit that has poured out of this country, I very much doubt its citizens will get off easy.

Those favoured by the Holy Trinity will be somewhat shielded by the upcoming disaster.


Well. I would say the (((USA))) has a huge karmic debt for the satanic crap they've spewed out. Real Americans are not off the hook, but I do hope some pity will be reserved for us given that we are fighting against a gradual, generations old satanic subversion.

Blogger Long Live The West July 29, 2020 6:13 PM  

"And he’s clearly targeted cities run by Democratic mayors."

Trump can't help it that they make themselves such easy targets. All he has to do is talk and they literally burn down their own cities and shoot each other.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 29, 2020 6:44 PM  

@ the Grey man. 10 years is a long time.

Blogger Hammerli 280 July 29, 2020 6:46 PM  

@66: I was in Hungary in 2016. Much the same story. A lot of us (especially those over ~40) think of the former Warsaw Pact countries as gray, dingy Communist cesspools. They've rebuilt. Pretty countries, wonderful people. And the reputed beauty of their women...is an understatement.

Blogger Doom July 29, 2020 6:52 PM  

@32

Tallen,

I have been thinking over that. I honestly believe God expects us to be our own kings. Not over one another, but over ourselves and our portion. At this point, the only place to be king, rightly, would be in heaven, and after. Our failure to have God as king was our failure to become kings ourselves. We rejected His truth, chose our own path, and now die. Prodigal sons are what we all are, at best, now.

I'm not sure how best to proceed on earth. I think, mainly, to be your own king is the only right way, if that has little to do with how kings are considered today. It is more like a faithful anarchy. Do as you will, but according to scriptures and God's will. Within that structure, those rules. I'd rather die a martyr, even an unknown one, than live under any earthly king. But I will kill to not have to do so, wrongly.

Blogger Brick Hardslab July 29, 2020 7:32 PM  

Looks like sjws are projecting again.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 29, 2020 9:16 PM  

You get that famous stability by killing off or driving off everyone not drinking the king koolaid. Monarchies get kingdoms and then kill off or drive off the elements that are loyal to the other royalty. France did itself in by swallowing a whole series of kingdoms in what is now France, and then proceeding to kill off their local populations. Everyone pining for kingdoms does not get: those kingdoms have sizes that they really cannot grow beyond, and they do not do complex very well. There are all sorts of massacres and purges, city by city, for centuries, millenium upon millenium for large cities. Some of the massacres have names, like hurricanes or sports teams.

I mean, one wall-banging whore with a lech for swarthy foreigners did in one round of Jericho. Would you trust the hookers in your city to keep you safe? You don't need to. You have a farm, a suburb, and a gun. She, quite noticeably, took care of her own family, every one of her neighbors be damned.

America was subdivided into however many 'kingdoms' if you will- both by time- one elected new rulers- and by geography- the laws of one place more or less did not interfere with the laws and peoples of another place. Just because nutjob utopianists cannot conceive of a granular, complex system does not mean it fails: it means nutjob utopianists really ought to not be allowed to rule anything, ever.

As well, every man was supposed to be the ruler of his household- the most local of kings, if you will. We did not do client/ patron or clan systems. They inspire a certain horror in a regular American. The easy dividing line: are you allowed to arm yourself? An American will say yes, and how much? Anyone else in the world is trying to dive behind the skirts of some other man's military. That's a one man, one castle system.

I don't think we will get rid of the American system. I think we will get rid of the people who do not cope well with the American system, in one fashion or another. You have to admit- flappers had remarkably few children, lefties don't seem to breed more than once, and the Rothschild family that everyone is so obsessed with? They don't need a panoramic camera to capture a family reunion, unlike pretty much any Mormon family reunion.

Blogger Dole July 29, 2020 9:38 PM  

Universal democracy is one of the dumbest systems ever created. All based again, on the myth of equality.

Blogger Bezzle July 29, 2020 10:36 PM  

One the one hand, an authoritarian government might take the vote away from women. On the other, it might force you to take the vaccine and get chipped.

It could very well do both.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 29, 2020 11:30 PM  

Where I live is 94% white, with an outer ring of undesirables just outside. In 2015, a Hebrew owned real estate/home builder company tried to build two low income apartment buildings on land they owned which would have put them right smack in between 3 white gated neighborhoods, mine included. My hubby and I went to the town council meeting regarding the matter all on our own accord, assuming it was probably a done deal. When we got there,about 200 ppl had shown up really angry and the council told the Jews to forget it. Within a month our local town council was partially disbanded and made worldwide news, because several members were accused of being racists and saying the N word.
Some of y'all might remember this event. Now you know why it happened.

Blogger Texian July 29, 2020 11:32 PM  

You forgot the best of them, Augusto Pinochet, savior of Chile

Blogger Texian July 29, 2020 11:38 PM  

The best of the autocrats, in all history, in my opinion, was Gen. Augusto Pinochet, saviour of Chile. We should be so lucky.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 29, 2020 11:38 PM  

I've openly told people that I support Franco, Mussolini and Duterte forever. Most people are so dumb they awkwardly smile and say, "Oh...interesting."

Makes me chuckle to myself, in any event.

Blogger John Rockwell July 30, 2020 12:15 AM  

Its going to be Augustus keeping the forms of the Republic but actually its a Kingdom in all but name.

Blogger John Rockwell July 30, 2020 12:18 AM  

Ariadne Umbrella wrote:Also, if you have martial law, you have identified law enforcement. As it is, antifa is up against unidentified law enforcement. They are losing against unidentified law enforcement. They are not prepared for the legal to be behaving in a wise as serpents fashion, within the law.

So far, I've seen videos of Antifa blinding uniformed law enforcement with lasers. They burn down identified legal buildings- courthouses, police stations, and such. We saw attempted assassins going after Trump on the campaign trail. They would time actions based on obvious Secret Service details. The controversial hearings had visible reactions based on uniform, identified personnel.

What they have not accounted for is things like retired officers coming out of retirement to work. They have not counted on all the different militarized or trained government agencies. I mean, even the student loan division has a SWAT team, from what I've read. Antifa has a lot of former college students with huge student loans.

Each of the corrupt political actors seems to have a corrupt private life. Say what you will about women voters being emotional and gossipy- the power of EWWW, Totally Gross- is a real thing. I can't take the WHO seriously since that one photo of the head of it all gayed up at a bar. I had to go dig last election to find one article referring to how stinky Hillary Clinton was. That fact alone, changed votes of women I mentioned it to.

The suburbs like clean people. Democrats are not clean.


Bolsheviks bitched about Authoritarian Tsarist Government. Then introduced their own Cheka and created the entire gulag system.

And through the Red Terror massacred everyone they disliked.

Blogger Harry_the_Horrible July 30, 2020 12:19 AM  

It is projection.
They anticipate martial law, because that is what they would do.

Blogger John Rockwell July 30, 2020 12:19 AM  

yoyoyoBigD wrote:USA has a huge karmic debt to pay for all the satanic shit that has poured out of this country, I very much doubt its citizens will get off easy.

Those favoured by the Holy Trinity will be somewhat shielded by the upcoming disaster.


Corona-chan is just the beginning.

Blogger John Rockwell July 30, 2020 12:24 AM  

Ariadne Umbrella wrote:You get that famous stability by killing off or driving off everyone not drinking the king koolaid. Monarchies get kingdoms and then kill off or drive off the elements that are loyal to the other royalty. France did itself in by swallowing a whole series of kingdoms in what is now France, and then proceeding to kill off their local populations. Everyone pining for kingdoms does not get: those kingdoms have sizes that they really cannot grow beyond, and they do not do complex very well. There are all sorts of massacres and purges, city by city, for centuries, millenium upon millenium for large cities. Some of the massacres have names, like hurricanes or sports teams.


In Ancient Israel when God dealt with a rebellious King he killed all every Male that belonged to his House. Thereby preventing anyone from taking revenge on the future King.Not a single Male descendant was allowed to live:

"Go, tell Jeroboam that this is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘I raised you up from among the people and appointed you ruler over My people Israel. 8I tore the kingdom away from the house of David and gave it to you. But you were not like My servant David, who kept My commandments and followed Me with all his heart, doing only what was right in My eyes.

9You have done more evil than all who came before you. You have proceeded to make for yourself other gods and molten images to provoke Me, and you have flung Me behind your back. 10Because of all this, behold, I am bringing disaster on the house of Jeroboam:



I will cut off from Jeroboam every male in Israel,

both slave and free;

I will burn up the house of Jeroboam

as one burns up dung until it is gone!

11Anyone belonging to Jeroboam who dies in the city

will be eaten by dogs,

and anyone who dies in the field

will be eaten by the birds of the air.’

For the LORD has spoken."

Due to the fact that only Males inherit the Throne in Israel I think.

https://biblehub.com/bsb/1_kings/14.htm

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( The Surprised Pig hadn't had any idea he tasted this good ) July 30, 2020 12:33 AM  

9. Inquisitor Benedictus July 29, 2020 10:37 AM
Sounds like you're tired of civilisation and just hope it's your kind of barbarian that replaces it.



you're the kind of 100%, USDA Grade A Faggot who would have been a "Loyalist".

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/hilarious-meme-reveals-what-americans-are-willing-to-do-to-kill-their-enemies

this is a Nation founded by men who were willing to kill over TAXES.

you are unfit to be their Posterity.



55. RadixMalorum July 29, 2020 2:14 PM
With today's subverted western churches that might not be a good idea.


it's not particularly unusual for the monarch to cleanse the priesthood of those he finds unsavory.

Blogger JeighDi July 30, 2020 6:28 AM  

More than once recently I've wished that Donald Trump was Nehemiah Scudder.

Blogger JamesB.BKK July 30, 2020 6:34 AM  

"Say my name! Say it!" "P... P... Pinochet."

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 30, 2020 8:33 AM  

Its going to be Augustus keeping the forms of the Republic but actually its a Kingdom in all but name.

That's my guess. Americans will refuse to crown a king because we all learned in school and the movie theater that "monarchy" = "tyrants beheading people for looking at them crosseyed." So instead of a limited monarch we'll end up with an unlimited emperor.

That prediction only holds if the USA stays together as a unit, though, which I don't expect. After it breaks up, perhaps some pieces of the former democratic empire will explore other ideas.

Blogger Jack July 31, 2020 2:26 AM  

Same man on another account.

I wasn't saying that democracy is civilisation. I wouldn't mind a decent monarchy or aristocracy either. What I'm saying is that you seem sick of civilisation as a whole, and are not rearing for a civilised monarchy or republic, but a barbaric one. The essence of barbarism is might makes right, and worship of one's own tribe; and that's the sort of "nationalism" you seem to be cheerleading for. You may not fully realise it, but you're implicitly asking for western civilisation to be thrown away so that we can descend into a Darwinian/Nietzchean bloodbath of tribe against tribe (like WWI, which undoubtedly was a huge blow to western civilisation).

The whole lesson of WWI&II is that modern nationalism and the modern nation state cannot be ends in themselves, that they're dangerous if left as the highest principle, and that they lead to a form of barbarism if not submitted to a higher, more global, international, human principle. Now I agree that the post-war world order is too liberal, too secular, and too homogenous, and that it does not give enough respect to local cultures, nations, and traditions; but you seem to be reacting to post-war liberalism with excessive, unwise, imprudent, ill-considered, and impolitical zeal and venom; swinging the pendulum wildly back in the other direction, and putting us right back where we were before WWI, having learned nothing and ready to tear each other apart by the million again over flag-worship.

I think this'll be a case of what Marx meant by, "history repeats itself, first as tragedy then as farce." WWI (and WWII, which was merely its delayed continuation) was a tragedy, because people actually believed in nationalism and were willing to die over it. If we get a new nationalist uprising and consequent bloodshed, it'll be a farce because people know really that nationalism is discredited like an old pagan superstition, and we can only embrace it now (for the most part) in a highly self-conscious, semi-ironic way
In other words, it'll be a farce brought on by the excesses of post-war liberalism, and people's impatience with it and inability to correct it in a civilised, unbloody manner.

Blogger Rabid Ratel July 31, 2020 9:04 AM  

@Jack, you need to seriously reconsider your basic premise of WWI & II being nationalistic in nature. The main antagonists were all empires in in guise or another.

Blogger Daniel August 04, 2020 8:40 PM  

Not peron dude

Blogger J.M. August 04, 2020 10:43 PM  

Ariadne Umbrella wrote:You get that famous stability by killing off or driving off everyone not drinking the king koolaid. Monarchies get kingdoms and then kill off or drive off the elements that are loyal to the other royalty. France did itself in by swallowing a whole series of kingdoms in what is now France, and then proceeding to kill off their local populations. Everyone pining for kingdoms does not get: those kingdoms have sizes that they really cannot grow beyond, and they do not do complex very well. There are all sorts of massacres and purges, city by city, for centuries, millenium upon millenium for large cities. Some of the massacres have names, like hurricanes or sports teams.

I mean, one wall-banging whore with a lech for swarthy foreigners did in one round of Jericho. Would you trust the hookers in your city to keep you safe? You don't need to. You have a farm, a suburb, and a gun. She, quite noticeably, took care of her own family, every one of her neighbors be damned.


Ariadne, with all due respect, if anything shows is your American bias and ignorance. France was created the same way your country the US was created: By right of conquest. People were conquered and assimilated into the new realm. Those that couldn't be assimilated were killed. The same happened in your parent country. Get over it. ALL DEMOCRACIES are unsustainable, especially if universal suffrage and women voting become a reality. Democracy literally relies in a fraction committed and intelligent enough people to vote, limited government and competent people in key positions. Give me a parliamentary monarchy any day over your god democracy. That "god" failed miserably and its failures are more obvious in the third world but don't be mistaken. The same failure is ever more evident in our countries. The difference is that the wealth accumulated BEFORE the advent of democracy was such that it couldn't be squandered in a generation (affirmative action, sentimental politics, etc.)

Notice how NOTHING beautiful (architecture-wise) was created in democratic Europe, or in the US...it's no coincidence.

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