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Friday, July 24, 2020

Good news about women in combat

The good news is they can hit what they shoot at. The bad news is that they are shooting at their fellow US soldiers:
A U.S. Army M1A2 Abrams main battle tank has been reportedly shooting another tank during a training exercise at Fort Bliss. On July 20, an incident with friendly fire occurred at the Fort Bliss training ground in Texas during firing at moving targets. Some sources reported that one of the “Abrams” tanks, from a distance of 2600m, has shot a tank from his own Cavalry Regiment. One soldier was injured in an accident when the M1002 multi-purpose training round hit his tank. His tank commander and crew responded quickly to render aid.
But the media isn't covering the whole story, and reportedly, all the soldiers involved have had their phones confiscated:
The big detail they are leaving out is that the tank doing the shooting was helmed by a brand new Female 2LT, who was the Tank Commander in charge of directing fire. And she put 2 MPAT T rounds in to her Platoon Sergeant's tank, from 2600m away. 

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Blogger Jack Amok July 24, 2020 11:29 AM  

Hillary just threw lamps and ashtrays at Bill. This GrrrlPower LT has a future in Democrat politics.

Blogger Salt July 24, 2020 11:32 AM  

"Down with the Patriarchy!" she exclaimed as she hit the trigger, forgetting it was but a practice round.

Blogger Rakshasa July 24, 2020 11:35 AM  

Reminds me of a story I read on some forum or something a decade ago, about a new recruit who was going through various tests and during the tank thing he kept hitting the targets and the test just kept dragging on with more targets to shoot.

Turns out when he exited there were several high-ranked people there, congratulating him on his results.

The gap has no doubt expanded, and it should be obvious why.

Blogger Daniel July 24, 2020 11:36 AM  

Yet another first! Shooting truth to power.

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont July 24, 2020 11:37 AM  

She obviously slept her way through ABOLC.

Blogger Bob July 24, 2020 11:38 AM  

Her: "You want to penetrate me? This this!" (Recalling a scene in "Kill Bill")

Blogger yoyoyoBigD July 24, 2020 11:38 AM  

This reminds me of Police Academy movies when the black woman ran over the officer's feet. It's all a big enormously expensive parody.

Blogger Bob July 24, 2020 11:39 AM  

Seriously, two hits at 2600 yards is impressive.

Blogger McChuck July 24, 2020 11:45 AM  

@8 Bob - The female LT isn't the one firing the gun. She's directing it to the targets, and ordering it to fire.

Blogger Lazarus July 24, 2020 11:45 AM  

They probably had to give her a good score for accuracy.

Blogger Jpc July 24, 2020 11:47 AM  

Well,,,,!
I suppose it you can take a positive.
Leaving gender out of things.
Do incidents like this occur with any frequency?

Blogger #7139 July 24, 2020 11:51 AM  

The good news is they can hit what they shoot at. The bad news is that they are shooting at their fellow US soldiers.

She is practicing for the upcoming CW 2.0.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 24, 2020 11:59 AM  

Having established she's perfectly capable of killing her non-coms, she's now a primary candidate for death by frag grenade. Better hope she never gets posted to combat.

Blogger Scuzzaman July 24, 2020 12:05 PM  

She must REALLY like that guy in the other tank.

Blogger Stilicho July 24, 2020 12:05 PM  

With a rifle.

Blogger rikjames.313 July 24, 2020 12:08 PM  

VD's point on the coverup is a good one.

It is understandable that the PL has more to do, but she is supposed to check her gunner before he shoots. So both of them are to blame.

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 24, 2020 12:10 PM  

Does this mean the tanks are good to take a couple hits, or does it mean women can't get a kill shot?

"Some sources reported that one of the “Abrams” tanks, from a distance of 2600m, has shot a tank from his own Cavalry Regiment."

HIS own Regiment!!! Have to watch out for this exact phrasing in the future, this may be a subconscious media 'tell.' Using a male pronoun to describe a vehicle commanded by a woman...

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 24, 2020 12:15 PM  

Oops did not read properly. Practice rounds, she wasn't the gunner. So nothing positive attributable to the woman.

Hopefully she looks good in uniform!

Blogger d July 24, 2020 12:18 PM  

But will this make the judeo-atheists nervous enough to CHANGE-we-can-believe-in ... anything?

Blogger Bucephalus July 24, 2020 12:23 PM  

Washington teens save female deputy being choked by DUI suspect
'We cannot thank these 5 young men enough'
WND News Services By WND News Services
Published July 23, 2020 at 4:57pm

While she’s shooting her fellow soldiers her sister is getting choked out by a drunkard.

Blogger Homesteader July 24, 2020 12:25 PM  

The benefits of comfort women are boundless, comrades.

Blogger Sam Gem July 24, 2020 12:26 PM  

I completed Army basic training with a co-ed class. Even though the standards were the same for both males and females, many females were pushed through without meeting the requirements for graduation. A few did not even complete the 15k ruck march.

The drill sergeants were too lenient, if not outright flirting with them most of the time. They were a total distraction from the learning and training that had to be done. The worst was a married female who had recruits arguing over her by the third week. I wanted to be proud of graduating Army basic but the experience soured me towards the modern armed forces in general and I left the first chance I got.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 24, 2020 12:37 PM  

It's the patriarchy's fault.

Blogger Yossarian July 24, 2020 12:41 PM  

There needs to be an addendum to Sun Tzu:
"When possible shame your enemy in accepting more women in the miltary."
Also:
"DO NOT accept women in your military."

Blogger Crew July 24, 2020 12:43 PM  

Strange. When I search for the text in Vox's second entry above all I can find is this posting ...

Blogger Crew July 24, 2020 1:14 PM  

@17: Well, of course tanks are male. It sticks out like dogs balls!

Blogger Meanoldbasterd July 24, 2020 1:17 PM  

I went through OSUT in 2000 and didnt interact with females in the same unit until 2007... It was a major shitshow until I left in 2016. Sorry my son. Sorry we didn't put a stop to it.

Blogger Valar Addemmis July 24, 2020 1:22 PM  

"Strange. When I search for the text in Vox's second entry above all I can find is this posting ..."

It's tagged as mailvox. Probably a hint, there.

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont July 24, 2020 1:26 PM  

Sam Gem wrote:I completed Army basic training with a co-ed class. Even though the standards were the same for both males and females, many females were pushed through without meeting the requirements for graduation. A few did not even complete the 15k ruck march.


The ruck (30-40 pounds, I can't remember, but it was not that much) march we had at the end of basic (not co-ed) was 17 miles, and we started that after an all night move through a swamp in November to perform an assault on a MOUT site at the break of dawn.

The longest march in co-ed OCS was 9.5 miles. I felt cheated. Fact of the matter was, OCS was run to facilitate women making it through.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 24, 2020 1:42 PM  

There are a few good video clips of girls in training that show up in humor threads on the chans. In one, a girl in fatigues is trying to pull the pin out of a grenade, and after several seconds of frustration she just throws it down in a snit, and everyone scatters. In others, male soldiers help girls over obstacle courses and carry their packs for them. It's too bad more videos haven't leaked out, but I'm sure there are major penalties if they catch you.

Blogger Kevin July 24, 2020 1:53 PM  

Thank God it wasn't a heat round.

When held to account, she'll hide behind the fact that she's a woman and play victim

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" July 24, 2020 2:01 PM  

She was aiming at the least pretty tank. Everyone knows that the bad ones are the least pretty. Just shoot for them. And why aren't the tanks painted in nicer colour anyway? I mean, sandy brown colour is just so ugly. If they were a nice fuchsia or lilac, i bet they would look better. And why isn't there anywhere for me to charge my iPhone in here? It's bad enough that i hardly get any signal as it is.


Also, true story: My grandmother was in the WAF during WW2. She was issued her uniform and thought it wasn't very flattering to her figure, so took it home and altered it, taking up the hem of the skirt and cinching in the waist of the jacket. Of course when she reported for duty the CO took one look and put her on jankers for the next week.

Blogger The World War II Fanatic July 24, 2020 2:14 PM  

bad news about britain
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/23/uk-fertility-rate-for-women-under-30-falls-to-lowest-level-since-before-world-war-ii/

1/3 of all births to foreign born mothers in Britain, that doesnt even include foreign fathers obv, and 2nd 3rd and 4th generation immigrants. So sad

Brits are being prepped for Dhimmi status
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8631059/Christians-should-learn-how-to-be-a-minority-from-Muslims-bishop-says.html

Sheffield cathedral prepares for "exciting mixed urban future" by ditching choir.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/23/sheffield-cathedral-sacks-choir-wants-new-music-mixed-urban-community/

depressing, worst news in awhile and thats saying something

Blogger Ingot9455 July 24, 2020 2:19 PM  

@24 There is that story about Sun Tzu training the concubines. He could get them to learn, but only if he had the ability to behead two of them as an example to the rest.

Blogger Tom July 24, 2020 2:25 PM  

Baphomet wept. A crew commander unable to differentiate between a friendly and a tango. The gunner's not much better. He should have told Miss Dangerbabe her firing orders were wrong. But the whole thing doesn't surprise me. First, it involves a 2LT, the lowest form of microbial life in a combat unit, and the US Army isn't exactly a stranger to friendly fire incidents.

Blogger DiGi377 July 24, 2020 2:29 PM  

@Peter

7/23. Fox news story about 38 Fed officers doxxed.

You should rethink your first point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/dozens-federal-law-enforcement-officers-portland-doxed.amp

Key quotes:

"We are going to convert their name [tags] to their badge number as about 38 of our officers that are out there have been doxed and their personal infomation has been put online," he said."

"DHS officials said that officers are identified as both law enforcement and members of the specific agency they represent. But name tags were not displayed due to the ongoing risk of doxing, they say."

If you search other media for this story,it often includes earlier stories about Portland police permitted to cover up name badges (June) as well as general stories about doxxing of police/fears of doxxing (June and earlier).

Conflating the local Portland police June doxxing story with this July Fed police doxxing causes ambiguity to reader and is probably deliberate.

Brett Weinstein in his Dark horse podcast Livestream discussed the Feds/riots in episode 32. He's a big prog lefty but at least he understands the danger of SJWs since the 2017 Evergreen College hysteria. @Peter you may find his thoughts useful to give perspective on your fears.

Blogger Oswald July 24, 2020 2:32 PM  

I was surprised to learn that in World War II, out of the 291,000+ deaths by the armed forces, there were only 700 African American deaths and 400 women deaths. I wonder if they know what they have signed up for.

Blogger Br1cht July 24, 2020 2:36 PM  

Just for perspective, the Swedish C-i-C participated in Stockholm Pride with some twerking sodomites that Sweden call "soldiers"..

Misery loves company and all that.

Blogger Pseudotsuga July 24, 2020 2:39 PM  

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...
Or maybe she watched Girls und Panzers and thought that the only thing that happens when you shoot a round into another tank is that white flags pop up...

Blogger rikjames.313 July 24, 2020 2:40 PM  

GOP Senators voted overwhelmingly to change the name of the southern military bases.

They sure spend a lot of time cucking to the dems

Blogger Silent Draco July 24, 2020 3:00 PM  

2600m on the ranges at Ft. Bliss isn't hard. Stabikized turret. Optical or thermal sight, LRF, ballistic computer. Press button for solution. Dust or haze can be issues.

Did you ID the target before firing, or at least recognize a friendly? Well ... Miss?

Sorry, but pushed a lot of buttons. The stupid runs way deeper.

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa July 24, 2020 3:04 PM  

This story is actually *much* more interesting than it appears at first blush: the 2LT was track commander by definition, so *not* the trigger-puller. The TC identifies the target while sitting in the cupola using inferior optics to the gunner position, orders the gunner to slew the turret to the target and specify which ammo--the gunner then indicates ready to fire, and TC gives the order to fire PRIOR to gunner squeezing trigger.

Gunners are more experienced than loaders, so the enlisted man/gunner with the MUCH better optics/scope could probably see he was about to shoot a training munition at the platoon sgt's track and either:
1) despite his experience, was afraid of interrupting his female 2LT to say "hey, about this target...";
2) really hated his platoon sgt and decided to follow the order and figured the female would take the heat;
3) really hated the female LT and decided to follow the order;
4) is a complete moron;
5) some combination of some or all of the above.

She's the officer, so it's definitely majority her fault. But for whichever reason(s), her gunner probably saw it was a mistake, but kept quiet and did it anyway. Hope the injured guy's ok, and that the gunner who fired it doesn't get offered a re-enlistement option.

Blogger Reprehensible Adam July 24, 2020 3:07 PM  

If the women soldiers can’t find a bush to hide in just fire at your own soldiers to confuse the enemy into thinking your on their side.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 24, 2020 3:09 PM  

Why would you think that would even be necessary in the Current Year?
They could have found her in a field making flower necklaces and promoted her to 2nd Loot.
Either one is equally possible.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 24, 2020 3:14 PM  

Why would you be listening to Commie kid maker and head Dork Web Jew, Bret Weinstein?

Blogger The Last Roman July 24, 2020 3:15 PM  

I trained on the M1 simulators in Fort Knox during the mid 90s. Our platoon was repeatedly knocked out in several exercises by fire from behind by female tank commanders. We were also flanked, and enveloped like the Roman's at Cannae by the all male NCOs, several times. Our female commanders were unable to respond. I was reprimanded and given a yellow card for disobeying orders and leading my tank platoon into the aggressor forces. Take from that what you will.

Blogger Dan in Georgia July 24, 2020 3:21 PM  

Apparently he didn’t like her back.

Blogger God Emperor Memes July 24, 2020 3:22 PM  

I believe that sort of accuracy is quite unremarkable in a modern tank.

Blogger "William Berke" July 24, 2020 3:28 PM  

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Blogger Crew July 24, 2020 3:30 PM  

Yup. Didn't notice the mailvox tag.

So, if her loader gets injured could she pitch in and load the gun or is that men's work?

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" July 24, 2020 3:33 PM  

@34

Please don't post misery porn. I'm trying to forget just how dire the situation is in Britain. We're truly in for a bad time in a short few years. And we know it. The cowboys and .indians running this country into the ground at present are going full out accelerationist to reach the multicult, 99% tarmac, chlorinated chicken & shopping centre utopia.

I do see a lot of women who have recently started sprogging in their thirties. But of course, that's at least 10-15 years later than the black and asian girls pushing prams around, who have a baby before they even know how to spell the word. The bien pensant white girls have their nice imaginary careers through their fertile twenties, and then decide that a baby will go well with the new house that her and her partner's parents have helped them to buy in Tufnell Park or Nunhead, or any other middle-class city enclave.

It will end in bloodshed. There's not any other option at this point as no government will ever countenance peaceful mass repatriation. Not to mention the fact that making such a policy work out peacefully would be almost impossible.

Blogger Robert What? July 24, 2020 3:35 PM  

Women in combat are a clear and present danger to their male compatriots.

Blogger OldFan July 24, 2020 3:47 PM  

As the resident tread-head, I feel compelled to comment:

1) This exactly the type of bonehead move that 2LTs make. At least she did not drive across train tracks in Europe with both antennas up (the electric wires above cause ALL of the ammunition to detonate).

2) Do you have any idea of how small a tank is at 26000 meters - even thru 13x sights? That is 5 times the range we fought at in WWII and the tanks are only 25% larger (we have to fit on the same rail cars).

3) We now combine gunnery with maneuver on some tank tables (yes, we call the different gunnery exercise tables). That means we are shooting over the heads of our own troops - and this is the risk we take to get better training than anybody else.

4) Comment on Girls Und Panzer IRL: As far as I can remember, no part of a tank weighs less than 500 pounds and it always breaks down in a rainstorm. I had to use 10' tricked crowbars, block & tackle, overhead tree branches, insane amounts of leverage, and a lot of swearing to replace track, torsion bars, and even final drives. I suppose suppose some girls (especially those from Black Forest Academy) would be determined enough to do the same. The problem is that we are probably not selecting for that in our training due to political pressure.

5) This is the sort of stunt that gets a 2LT assigned to Brigade, Division. or Corps HQ. I know, I got stuck with one.

6) Be glad no nuclear weapons were involved (can't tell you about that one - but it was a doozy!).

Blogger NO GOOGLES July 24, 2020 4:14 PM  

Tsundere tank commanders
I can't decide if this is the best or worst timeline anymore

Blogger Valar Addemmis July 24, 2020 4:21 PM  

"2) Do you have any idea of how small a tank is at 26000 meters - even thru 13x sights? That is 5 times the range we fought at in WWII and the tanks are only 25% larger (we have to fit on the same rail cars)."

Pretty sure the text in the initial says 2600m.

Blogger Akulkis July 24, 2020 4:30 PM  

She didn't hit the target -- the gun-layer did that. But she DESIGNATED the target for him to aim at. The gun layer has now situational awareness... so he's dependent upon the vehicle commander to select the right targets.

This is quite amazing, because before doing live fire exercises like this, the unit should have been doing a lot of similar exercises using MILES2 gear, which should have picked up such mishaps.

Blogger The Last Roman July 24, 2020 4:40 PM  

We had females in my basic officer course. They were always late to formation. Some of them showed up in make-up. I had to drag an Iranian girl through the night time live fire exercise because she froze, and started crying. The NCOs, and officers didn't even seem to notice these issues.

Blogger Akulkis July 24, 2020 4:41 PM  

I can tell you one thing...

There's going to be a COMPLETE overhaul of the AFV commander and AFV gunner's courses.

I'm qualified as gun-truck commander, and I cannot begin to comprehend how much of a fuckup both the 2LT and the gunner have to be.

For one.. if the tank that was hit is in her platoon, then IT WAS MOVING TOO, and this is on an exercise with stationary targets and targets that are on fixed tracks (because live ammo), not an actual OPFOR consisting of real soldiers.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira July 24, 2020 4:50 PM  

Fort Bliss is pretty awesome. Still can't believe I got to do all that cool shit down in Texas and New Mexico. Definitely my two favourite states since then.

Blogger Noah B. July 24, 2020 4:50 PM  

Bronze Star for the LT, then?

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz July 24, 2020 4:50 PM  

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Blogger Didas Kalos July 24, 2020 5:07 PM  

That's some rally dry humour

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 24, 2020 5:19 PM  

Chief_Tuscaloosa wrote:She's the officer, so it's definitely majority her fault. But for whichever reason(s), her gunner probably saw it was a mistake, but kept quiet and did it anyway.
Or he objected and she doubled down and threatened him.
Or the gunner was female too, and they were both mad at the guy.

I have a hard time believing the second shot could be a mistake. Radios are a thing, and someone, especially the guys at the receiving end of the "mistake", should have raised an alarm.

Blogger Ken Prescott July 24, 2020 5:22 PM  

"Radios are a thing, and someone, especially the guys at the receiving end of the "mistake", should have raised an alarm."

Unless the first hit blew the antennas off.

Blogger Akulkis July 24, 2020 5:28 PM  

> Or the gunner was female too, and they were both mad at the guy.


There is yet another possibility which hasn't been mentioned yet:

They were both just recently bounced out of the Navy for getting their frigate T-boned by a 1000-foot long floating light display known as an oil tanker, and they're STILL not speaking to each other.

Blogger DroppingBear July 24, 2020 5:36 PM  

'I love the smell of burning patriarchy in the morning'

Blogger Crew July 24, 2020 5:50 PM  

Comeone guys, a few own-goals is not a big price to pay for taking advantage of the superior characteristics of half the human race during time of war!

Blogger cecilhenry July 24, 2020 5:51 PM  

Here's the bad, and dangerous reality about women being promoted for 'equality' in ALL kinds of occupations.

I've seen women in medical specialities allowed to complete their programs without the necessary numbers of cases, or time, and in some undergraduate professional schools, by completing work on dummies or non-patient work to allow graduation on time.

I know because I saw it.

So there's no doubt its going on elsewhere.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( The Surprised Pig hadn't had any idea he tasted this good ) July 24, 2020 5:59 PM  

25. Crew July 24, 2020 12:43 PM
Strange. When I search for the text in Vox's second entry above all I can find is this posting ...


strange. it's almost like you've never heard of email.



64. Snidely Whiplash July 24, 2020 5:19 PM
I have a hard time believing the second shot could be a mistake. Radios are a thing, and someone, especially the guys at the receiving end of the "mistake", should have raised an alarm.



that assumes they were conscious and capable of responding and not preoccupied with trying to administer care to their own critically injured crew. look at the photos. notice all those exposed sheet steel edges and 90 degree corners? how do you think it feels getting one of those slapped in your face or jammed in your ribs? maybe break an arm on one.

just because a round does not penetrate does NOT mean that the crew doesn't get a hell of a beating when they take a hit. and God help the NCO if he had his head out of the hatch when the round hit. there's plenty of blood on both the exterior and interior of the tank, but the blood on the outside might just be from extracting the wounded.

'Mein Krieg' is an excellent overview of WW2 tanker warfare. it's going to be way worse now. nowadays, direct hits by shaped charges just blowtorch the inside of the tank.

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 24, 2020 6:00 PM  

The hostile workplace diminished her ability to perform her work.

Blogger NRx July 24, 2020 6:20 PM  

Other countries have tried the women in combat thing, the Israelis and the Soviets seriously (and not entirely just part of a prog agenda though there was SOME of that with both but mostly it was driven shortages of combat age men) and they found that women did fairly well as snipers (didn't have to operate in a group, not too much heavily lifting and women's natural detail obsession and ruthlessness made them do okay as snipers) but otherwise were a failure in combat.

Blogger fitzhamilton July 24, 2020 6:24 PM  

I've said before, and I'll say it again: the most salient reason that women and homosexuals do not belong in the military is neither differences in physical strength nor because it violates morality. It's that erotic attractions and envy get people coerced, raped and murdered. Women and homosexuals in the military destroy unit cohesion, and get people violated and killed.

Sex and sodomy will destroy the military if we do not stop this madness..

Just relax, bend over and hum the Chinese national anthem y'all, take it for the sake of sexual revolution, this will all be over before we know it.

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 24, 2020 6:25 PM  

For anime, "Tank Police" from the 80s?

Blogger papabear July 24, 2020 6:25 PM  

@22 Yep, women passing tarnishes the sense of accomplishment and undermines male identity. And now they have even Army SF including women and passing them.

Blogger Azimus July 24, 2020 6:45 PM  

I'm sure she'll give a public weepy apology and beg for forgiveness, so I'm sure its all good.

Blogger liberranter July 24, 2020 6:53 PM  

Fake soldiers in a fake army pretending to defend the dying remnants of what has become a fake country.

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile July 24, 2020 6:59 PM  

She's the officer, so it's definitely majority her fault. But for whichever reason(s), her gunner probably saw it was a mistake, but kept quiet and did it anyway.

Whose story would the brass believe (assuming gunner was male)? She will probably claim he fired without consent, squeeze out a few tears, and viola!, he's busted and she's promoted.


Do you have any idea of how small a tank is at 26000 meters

It was a tank exercise, not the Battle of the Denmark Strait.


That is 5 times the range we fought at in WWII

There's an account of a Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf B destroying a T-34/85 at 4.5 km.

Blogger Azimus July 24, 2020 7:05 PM  

OldFanJuly 24, 2020 3:47 PM
2) Do you have any idea of how small a tank is at 2600 meters - even thru 13x sights? That is 5 times the range we fought at in WWII and the tanks are only 25% larger (we have to fit on the same rail cars).


Do US AFV's have some kind of transponder on it, like a military aircraft, or do 4 tankers and a $9 million tank fail to rate that $100 piece of hardware in the Army's eyes? Didnt they see "Courage Under Fire"????

Blogger liberranter July 24, 2020 7:16 PM  

Women in combat are a clear and present danger to their male compatriots.

That might very well be the idea behind it.

Blogger Ken Prescott July 24, 2020 7:18 PM  

"Do US AFV's have some kind of transponder on it, like a military aircraft, or do 4 tankers and a $9 million tank fail to rate that $100 piece of hardware in the Army's eyes? Didnt they see "Courage Under Fire"????"

No. There are an order of magnitude more ground vehicles than air vehicles, and IFF across that many vehicles would pose a security and operational nightmare. It would be a great deal more than a Benjamin per vehicle once you factor in the NSA having to generate more than 10x the present amount of IFF keying material (KEYMAT), and the cost of getting 10x as many cleared/trained people and the associated Electronic KEYMAT Management System (EKMS) seats.

Blogger Oswald July 24, 2020 7:30 PM  

My dad was in the army and they shot at each other with special rounds. This would have been in Germany in the late 50s. If I remember correctly he said the shell covered the tank with some kind of substance that could wiped off. But for purposes of the war game it was considered knock out for two hours when hit, then after the two hours it could be wiped out and the tank could get back into action.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid July 24, 2020 7:49 PM  

When I went through Navy basic many women in our co-ed division were ~4'9", and they all had tiny torsos and enormous hips/thighs. One had hands so small they fit, fingers spread, in my palm. The thought of being aboard a ship on fire with a bunch of oompa-loompas, as we called them, waddling to and fro is terrifying. We always wondered why this particular shape of women, the absolute worst given the demands, was so common.

Blogger Noah B. July 24, 2020 7:54 PM  

Abrams tanks are equipped with Blue Force Tracking and have been for a while. While it's not exactly like a transponder from what I understand, it does allow you to spot other friendlies on a map. Assuming you can read maps.

For a training exercise it's always possible they weren't using the BFTs.

Blogger tuberman July 24, 2020 8:01 PM  

I stand with van Creveld on the female warrior issue.

Blogger ScottC July 24, 2020 8:13 PM  

Women can't fail at manly pursuits. No one calls a woman "coward" or "weakling."

Yet the highest compliment paid to women in this culture is that they're "strong". Doesn't that mean physical weakness, timidity and lack of emotional control are a woman's biggest defects? Apparently not because I don't see anyone punishing women for lacking in these areas. So why do people keep saying women are strong?

I hear no protest from the right on this issue. In many cases they go along with it. I'm on some hunting and shooting forums and the regulars say how they love their "tough" and "strong" daughters who serve in the marines and go to law school. That's where a lot of this comes from.

Blogger boogeyman July 24, 2020 8:28 PM  

Tell me again how any civil war in the US is bound to fail because the army has tanks and bombers and stuff.

Blogger 7916 July 24, 2020 8:38 PM  

So Abrams no longer have IVIS?

Blogger Guy Incognito July 24, 2020 8:46 PM  

There's a documented case of an Abrams taking a depleted uranium round to the Glacis Plate and it being stopped.

I don't know the range though.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid July 24, 2020 9:37 PM  

ScottC wrote:I'm on some hunting and shooting forums and the regulars say how they love their "tough" and "strong" daughters who serve in the marines and go to law school.

Our people have been corrupted with inverted values. If your daughter is sent off to war . . . what exactly is being protected at home? If that doesn't define inversion, I don't know what could.

Blogger Ransom Smith July 24, 2020 9:56 PM  

It's too bad more videos haven't leaked out, but I'm sure there are major penalties if they catch you.
There's the particularly famous photo where the female medic has her m4 barrel right in her gut and her handgun held by the barrel pointed right at her.
The Sargent looks like he's going to die of pure anger.

Blogger John Rockwell July 24, 2020 10:19 PM  

But, But Kurdish Amazons in Syria kicking ISIS ass. DDD:

Blogger "William Berke" July 24, 2020 10:26 PM  

"Yet the highest compliment paid to women in this culture is that they're "strong" Doesn't that mean..."

The highest compliment paid to woman is Marriage.

Blogger ar10308 July 24, 2020 11:00 PM  

Those Cucked fathers are beyond obnoxious. What is hilarious is how butthurt they get when you actually call their daughters to account and attempt to hold their Man-Larping to a masculine standard, then they become the most Blue Pill White Knights you've ever met.

Blogger Guy Incognito July 24, 2020 11:46 PM  

You just described 85% of the women I ever ran across in the Marine Corps.

I was a grunt, so I didn't see many women, but when I did, they were all generally well outside of physical fitness standards, and either docile as lambs, or thunderc**ts.

I personally met 2 females in 8 years I can legitimately say were an asset to the Corps.

I'm not the brightest guy, but I'm strong and dependable, which meant I was generally considered to be in the top 20% of Marines.

Most females I met I would consider to be in the bottom 5% of Marines.

It's not to say that males were uniformly great, it's just there was a mutual understanding that nobody wanted to be the weak or incompetent guy.

Blogger Oswald July 24, 2020 11:57 PM  

There is a difference between a peace time army and a war time army. Despite the little wars we are in, this is a peace time army. When a real war comes, then this will either be corrected or we will be destroyed.

I suspect this started because they simply were looking at a potential untapped resource of recruits for all the little wars they wanted to engage in. They were fools. And they are still looking for sources of new recruits. They are creating an army that has great strength on paper, but in reality is nothing but a paper tiger.

That fire on the Navy ship recently, I wonder how many women were part of the crew, and what part did they play or not play in it.

Blogger TiredPoorHungry July 25, 2020 12:34 AM  

Upon hearing about the mishap I immediately began sleeping with all the females in that particular Panther Division. Word from the Bush is he had it coming.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 25, 2020 12:43 AM  

Oswald wrote:That fire on the Navy ship recently, I wonder how many women were part of the crew, and what part did they play or not play in it.
Female ``firemen'' are called firewatchers, because they can't do the job.
Oswald wrote:Despite the little wars we are in, this is a peace time army.
In the peace time military, failure is how you get a bigger budget. This is very much a peace time military.

Blogger Akulkis July 25, 2020 1:32 AM  

>> Do US AFV's have some kind of transponder on it, like a military aircraft, or do 4 tankers and a $9 million tank fail to rate that $100 piece of hardware in the Army's eyes? Didnt they see "Courage Under Fire"????

Not nearly as useful in ground combat as against aerial targets.

Also, this is a training exercise, not in a theater of operations.

Blogger Akulkis July 25, 2020 1:36 AM  

>> For a training exercise it's always possible they weren't using the BFTs.

BFT's are only put on element-leader ground vehicles.

For every ground vehicle you see on a BFT, there's at least 3x more not shown.

Blogger Akulkis July 25, 2020 1:39 AM  

>> I hear no protest from the right on this issue. In many cases they go along with it. I'm on some hunting and shooting forums and the regulars say how they love their "tough" and "strong" daughters who serve in the marines and go to law school. That's where a lot of this comes from.

It comes from 2-child families.

For every 4 families, there is typically

1 F+F children
1 F+M children
1 M+F children
1 M+M children

50% of the women walking around these days are the daughters of men who have no sons.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz July 25, 2020 6:16 AM  

@Canadian Warlord… "Dominion Tank Police"? In manga their fem 2LT-ess was the competent one. :)

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 25, 2020 6:21 AM  

So what's the likelihood that the outcome of this will be the cessation of the use of live weapons in exercises? As opposed to, of course, actually dealing with the actual problem, which has a probability of zero.

Blogger Unknown July 25, 2020 7:21 AM  

Cant pull the pin? Just put the whole unit behind schedule and throw it anyway!

3 hours later EOD finally shows up to take care of the dud, just to see it and pull the pin out, and everyone hates you now.

Blogger Pratisara July 25, 2020 7:24 AM  

The entire raison d'attaire for women in combat is that they get to kill other Male enemy soldiers. When the other side also has female soldiers and women have to fire and kill other women, watch how quickly the movement for female soldiers collapses.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 25, 2020 7:34 AM  

I'm on some hunting and shooting forums and the regulars say how they love their "tough" and "strong" daughters who serve in the marines and go to law school.

In a society with a 2-kid average, only about 1/4 of families will have 2 or more sons, and 1/4 will have none. That leaves a lot of dads wishing they had more (or any) sons and letting their daughters fill that role. And the feminist institutions that mold the girls, from school to most churches, encourage them to do so.

On top of that, the instinctive respect conservatives have for anyone who joins the military tends to override everything else. They just can't say it's wrong for someone to go off to boot camp; they're too busy saluting and waving the flag.

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators July 25, 2020 9:09 AM  

Great user name! "My 1 millionth internet profile"

Blogger Macs July 25, 2020 9:10 AM  

Good to see some progress from our Valkyries on the range!

Blogger B July 25, 2020 9:16 AM  

I have always believed in a draft for both men and women -- no college deferments. One year minimum service. That said, the day-to-day business of war on the ground should be reserved for the men, who are equipped by biology and temperment to conduct war. But women need to be schooled in war, too, in the event that men are otherwise unavailable to defend hearth and home. Not too many pioneer women dialed 911 when the homestead was attacked and the man was plowing in the fields. It's been done before (think Israel).

Yes, men and women ARE different. And it's that difference that has made Homo sapiens so successful.

Based on my experience, the odds are good that the 2nd Lt. at issue was a lesbian playing at being a man -- so easy to do since the Army has been totally converged by homosexuals who have infiltrated the officer ranks.

Blogger JamesB.BKK July 25, 2020 9:17 AM  

Hell hath no fury ... &c.

Blogger B July 25, 2020 10:19 AM  

@Damelon Brinn: "There are a few good video clips of girls in training that show up in humor threads on the chans. In one, a girl in fatigues is trying to pull the pin out of a grenade, and after several seconds of frustration she just throws it down in a snit, and everyone scatters."
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Very funny. It reminds me of an incident in Army Basic Training. We we practicing throwing hand grenades (with dummy grenades, of course). It was all-female training although the Drill Sergeant was a male Vietnam combat veteran from the 101st Airborne.

Now, it goes without saying that females in general have much less muscle strength in their arms and shoulders than males. This is just a biological fact. My attempt to throw the dummy grenade was so dismal that, had it been live, I would have blown myself up along with the Drill Sergeant. The look of dismay on his face was priceless.

That said, I was a great shot on the range. I note that during WWII, there were Russian women soldiers who made excellent snipers. The moral of the story is, where combat and most everything else is concerned, the two sexes are not fungible.

Unfortunately, the armed forces have bought into the feminist false narrative that women can do anything men can do and vice versa. No. No they can't.

Until the military hierarchy recognizes that women are biologically and psychologically different from men and, therefore, need to be deployed with their biological and psychological strengths and weaknesses in mind, our military readiness to successfully fight a war remains hampered. It's not only corporations that fail when converged.

Blogger B July 25, 2020 10:21 AM  

@Meanoldbasterd and @Chief_Tuscaloosa

I agree the post is missing key information. The 2ndLt could have been set up to fail. It's certainly been done before.

Blogger Akulkis July 25, 2020 10:27 AM  

>> The entire raison d'attaire for women in combat is that they get to kill other Male enemy soldiers. When the other side also has female soldiers and women have to fire and kill other women, watch how quickly the movement for female soldiers collapses.


It won't be talked about. And you don't understand women who actually engaged in a real fight.

Blogger Dole July 25, 2020 11:29 AM  

Unpopular opinion: Women should not be in the army.

Or vote.

Blogger Th3 J3st3r July 25, 2020 11:39 AM  

I've noticed this tank-phenomenon translates to driving--and pretty much anything relating to any activity revolving around a high-stress situation, including (but not limited to) parallel parking.
It's ok, woman, I don't mind when you pick a regular parking spot that is 500m further away from our destination. We can all use a walk to stretch our legs after a car ride anyway.

Blogger Crew July 25, 2020 11:45 AM  

I have noticed that a lot of Mil Sci Fi authors have women doing things women just don't do. For example, they have butt-kicking babes as marines or even women as admirals of space fleets. Horseshit.

They, and women, often seem to think that leadership derives from authority, but that is simply not true. Authority derives from leadership, and even among men there is no surfeit of leadership.

Further, men simply do not respect those who cannot do a hard day of physical work ...

However, the claims that women can captain ships, man the guns and so forth has been amply disproven by events in recent memory ...

Blogger Th3 J3st3r July 25, 2020 11:46 AM  

I agree with you, Scott. It's very sad how we treat women by forcing them to adhere to standards which many men would fail to uphold. None of this "strong woman" stuff comes from love--that is for sure.
The natural order of God, Christ over man, man over woman, and woman over child, only brings pain when defied.

Women's egos are all that stand in opposition, and these egos are fueled by the compliments of thirsty, sex-driven men.

@ar10308:
Agree. However, I'm sure somewhere deep down they realize that all alphas are looking down on them, whether said alphas are Christians or not.

Blogger Pratisara July 25, 2020 12:12 PM  

>>you don't understand women who actually engaged in a real fight.

Not sure if you have. Has anybody?
We men have been fighting and killing each other since the dawn of time. We have tortured, beheaded, castrated each other.
When women fight each other, it's with words. A slap here, a pulling of hair there. Anything more, they let a man do the dirty work. Go to any prison and see women who are convicted for murder. Their victim was always male.
They are not used to killing each other. There is an enormous sense of sisterhood which is prevalent even among women who hate each other.
When I see more women in prison for killing other women, then I will believe they are ready for militAry combat.

Blogger Kirk Parker July 25, 2020 12:13 PM  

There were female tank commanders already in the 90's???

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 25, 2020 12:19 PM  

Crew wrote:For example, they have butt-kicking babes as marines or even women as admirals of space fleets. Horseshit.
AKA Men with tits.

Blogger Joe Smith July 25, 2020 12:36 PM  

@100 Akulkis That's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that before.

Blogger "William Berke" July 25, 2020 1:43 PM  

"2600m" If you are thinking shooting guns for fun on public land is safe because they are loud, scary, & distract you from your life then you are not thinking soberly. Go to the range to spend ammunitions if you would like to keep the economy going.

Blogger "William Berke" July 25, 2020 2:06 PM  

Damelon,
You have justly substituted and summarized 14 to 18 years of liberalized education with four sentences, no further comment.

Blogger Steve Canyon July 25, 2020 10:07 PM  

Not in the American military. The reason for women in combat is to get that box checked for promotion, especially to flag ranks.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 25, 2020 10:42 PM  

IRum.asX
AKA SamuraiJeff
You are banned.
Don't even try it. Nobody is fooled by your new wank sock.

Blogger Joe Smith July 25, 2020 11:11 PM  

@110 B The military isn't the place for women, and no one cares if you're a decent shot.

Blogger Rabid Ratel July 26, 2020 5:43 AM  

@Snideley, IP adresses are Dread Ilk Privileges.

Blogger Akulkis July 26, 2020 8:58 AM  

>>
When women fight each other, it's with words. A slap here, a pulling of hair there. Anything more, they let a man do the dirty work. Go to any prison and see women who are convicted for murder. Their victim was always male.

You need to read up on the Red Army's use of female combatants.

Women tend to avoid a physical confrontation at all costs. But once they DO actually get to that point, they are savage. The Red Army decided after WW2 to never use women as regular infantry again for several reasons.

1) When attacked, they were hesitant to begin firing as soon as enemy troops were within effective range of their personal arms.

2) Once they did engage in a fight, they became a command-and-control problem -- they would not disengage voluntarily. The results tended to be units then took extremely high losses (because the women wouldn't conduct orderly tactical disengagement to better positions or because they would pursue relentlessly, until every soldier of the opposing unit which they could find was dead. This would create local salients, causing the women to then be in a position well-forward of the rest of the line, with their line of communication with the rest of the force precariously vulnerable to counter-attack. German doctrine was to use troops not involved in a battle in which ground was lost to IMMEDIATELY counter-attack any position lost to their enemy. The troops (male or female) who take ground are generally badly fatigued, and it can be difficult to even keep them awake, so the victorious side MUST replace the troops that captured the ground with new troops, as those who conquered that ground will typically be in no condition to defend it against well-rested troops.

3) The well-known upper body strength limits.

Men have a concept of "Ok, I beat you, I'm done." and "Ok, you beat me." Very few bar fights between men end up with one of the opposing combatants in the morgue. Men tend to have a built-in sense of limitation -- OK, this conflict has been settled.

Ever see two women get into a fight in a bar? They have no rules. They will attempt to maim and kill each other, because their built-in viewpoint is that once they can't avoid a physical confrontation, then it must be to COMPLETE elimination of the opponent.

Take this onto the battlefield and it makes women extremely poor fits for use as members of a standard "line" company of infantry, cav, armor, etc.

But, combine that ruthlessness with more patience, and body tissue distribution which makes for a superior weapons-holding platform, and they make GREAT snipers.

The US Army's problem is, we don't allow anyone to go to sniper school who isn't Infantry first. What we need to do is get women OUT of the infantry (even the women who survive fighting in standard line units tend to suffer horrible infections. There's a female USMC captain who, as commander of some combat engineers in Afghanistan, developed a reproductive tract infection which made her sterile. She advocates eliminating the use of women from such units, so that no more women suffer likewise).

Snipers can withdraw and perform personal hygiene as needed. Line infantry in the field is generally lucky if they get 3 showers in 10 days.

Blogger Pratisara July 26, 2020 12:25 PM  

>>Ever see two women get into a fight in a bar? They have no rules. They will attempt to maim and kill each other

I must confess I have not.

Good points.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( The Surprised Pig hadn't had any idea he tasted this good ) July 26, 2020 2:01 PM  

128. Pratisara July 26, 2020 12:25 PM
I must confess I have not.


dude, that's a sheltered life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPQmkGs9lD0&list=PLRBy2olBFHF-XnPeVY7Xmuuw8R1SYKB5-

Akulkis' point about women refusing to disengage is well demonstrated here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxzd7kKm91c

you notice that, even though she's getting her ass thoroughly kicked, she keeps trying to get AROUND the referee and ignoring the referee's instructions to separate.

WorldStarHipHop is, obviously, the gold mine for chick fight beat downs.

Blogger JamesB.BKK July 26, 2020 9:07 PM  

Large predatory animals are threatened world wide because women have no qualms about - using men - eliminating the potential threats to their offspring. No quarter.

Blogger phunktor July 27, 2020 4:20 AM  

ORdaughters either!
-- the Paola

Blogger JohnofAustria July 27, 2020 3:49 PM  

They modified the article, lmao. Holy shit.

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