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Tuesday, August 04, 2020

Salvaging Creepy Joe

The New York Times is trying to save Joe Biden from being exposed as a dementia-addled figurehead on prime time in front of the entire electorate by the God-Emperor:
Nervous managers of the scheduled 2020 presidential debates are shuffling the logistics and locations to deal with the threat of the coronavirus. But here’s a better idea: Scrap them altogether. And not for health reasons.

The debates have never made sense as a test for presidential leadership. In fact, one could argue that they reward precisely the opposite of what we want in a president. When we were serious about the presidency, we wanted intelligence, thoughtfulness, knowledge, empathy and, to be sure, likability. It should also go without saying, dignity.

Yet the debates play an outsize role in campaigns and weigh more heavily on the verdict than their true value deserves.

This, by the way, isn’t written out of any concern that Donald Trump will prevail over Joe Biden in the debates; Mr. Biden has done just fine in a long string of such contests. The point is that “winning” a debate, however assessed, should be irrelevant, as are the debates themselves.
Sure it isn't....

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79 Comments:

Blogger John Cunningham August 04, 2020 8:06 PM  

VFM424 here-- in Woody Allen's Sleeper, wasn't the dictator's nose the only surviving body part?

Blogger 1100 August 04, 2020 8:12 PM  

Joe is as good as the kids at the cool table.

Blogger CCP August 04, 2020 8:12 PM  

"This, by the way, isn’t written out of any concern that Donald Trump will prevail over Joe Biden in the debates"

Blogger Billy August 04, 2020 8:17 PM  

Even they aren’t stupid enough to put that old man on stage against the Orangeman. His “Cuz you’d be in jail” line would probably get topped within 10 minutes and the old molester would be wheeled off stage by his handlers and put out to pasture.

Blogger Canadian Warlord August 04, 2020 8:28 PM  

Are we witnessing the death of the career politician?

Epstein scandal + Trump in office + old democrats mentally damaged by their "off ice activities" = ?

By the time these creatures make the big show, they are missing too much of their humanity and their mental faculties. This was inevitable, but it's still a surprise.

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile August 04, 2020 8:29 PM  

This, by the way, isn’t written out of any concern that Donald Trump will prevail over Joe Biden in the debates

"and it's absolutely, positively, in no way an admission that Trump utterly curbstomped the Wicked Witch of Ar-can't-sauce in the last presidential debates. Don't even think it!"

Blogger Chris Lopes August 04, 2020 8:29 PM  

As predictable as the seasons.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) August 04, 2020 8:30 PM  

Creepy Uncle reminiscing about black kids rubbing his leg hair and little girls sitting in his lap?

sounds like a sure fire winner to me!

Blogger cecilhenry August 04, 2020 8:30 PM  



'Because you'd be in jail' is the line of the 2016 election.

The debates matter.


What is Joe and his handlers afraid of??

I know: A real conversation.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 04, 2020 8:31 PM  

Imagine if Trump not only endorses the debate but invites Kanye West.
Biden might die.

Blogger Rough Carrigan August 04, 2020 8:33 PM  

Funny, the same nyt was absolutely enthralled with how Hillary Clinton spewed what we now know to have been prepared answers when she was getting the questions in advance, at least against Bernie if not also against TGE in 2016.

It seems the value of a debate is entirely determined by whether it seems to support their preferred candidate.

Blogger ZhukovG August 04, 2020 8:37 PM  

Wow, Biden must really be in bad shape.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Jack Amok August 04, 2020 8:37 PM  

1 - to hell with them, just to be clear.
2 - but what else could they possibly do? If Biden is in a debate, it will be a debacle of epic proportions. He can't complete a rehearsed talking point from his basement. If he has to respond to questions live on air, anyone who hasn't been paying attention will have their jaw hit the floor.

If the debate(s) goes forward, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't stage a fake bomb threat at the last minute to get it cancelled.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira August 04, 2020 8:44 PM  

Outstanding! This debate better happen, I want my keks.

Blogger ScottC August 04, 2020 8:45 PM  

Hidin' Biden is better than Creepy (or Sleepy Joe). His handlers are trying to hide his rapidly deteriorating state until the election.

Pass it on.

Blogger Ronius_Maximus August 04, 2020 8:45 PM  

I saw this yesterday and literally laughed out loud. It's so obvious they have no faith in him.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 04, 2020 8:56 PM  

Yep. They can't let Biden be the candidate, but they *really* can't let him debate Trump. He wouldn't even have Trump's chivalry to protect him like Clinton did. When Trump told Hillary "You'd be in jail," that's just a taste of what he'd do to Biden.

Blogger Akulkis August 04, 2020 9:06 PM  

>> If the debate(s) goes forward, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't stage a fake bomb threat at the last minute to get it cancelled.

... and then blame it on Bad OrangeMan.

Blogger SciVo August 04, 2020 9:19 PM  

I have long been against the Presidential "debates" because the name is a lie, and I hate lies. But now that the socialists are also against it, I'm now in favor of Trump pushing for some joint press conferences, because eff those guys.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 04, 2020 9:30 PM  

@11, Yeah, if we cared enough, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find NYT articles from 2016 pontificating about how important the debates are to democracy and how everyone should watch them. Because at that time, they were convinced that the inexperienced, undisciplined Trump would be destroyed by Clinton. Heck, they didn't think he'd survive Megyn Kelly and the Republicans.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 04, 2020 9:44 PM  

Joe Biden is medting with Susan Rice because she is facilitating the bait and switch where Barack Obama is the VP nominee. Buden doesn't even know it.

Blogger Paulito August 04, 2020 9:46 PM  

@11 You could replace "a debate" with just about anything and your sentence would still be true.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 04, 2020 9:46 PM  

As far as debates Trump will challenge Obama stating Biden is incompetent. Kbama will "act" presidential and they pray that and false nostalgia wi be enough.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 04, 2020 9:51 PM  

You guys believe what you are seeing is real. It is no more real than a rap video. Everything on the left is fake and/or duplicitous.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville August 04, 2020 9:56 PM  

Nothing short of demonic possession will help Joe in the debates. His skull is full of scrambled eggs.

Blogger Jim August 04, 2020 9:57 PM  

The only reason Biden is the nominee is to hinder any effort to investigate/prosecute the Obama administration until the election can be safely rigged in their favor. He doesn't need to come out of the basement, let alone debate, to fulfill his role.

Blogger Bad Attitude August 04, 2020 9:58 PM  

With his rapidly advancing dementia, Creepy Joe's handlers probably don't want him partially disrobing on stage after he gets frustrated by something GE says. And, that is in addition to the very real risk of Creepy Joe wetting or soiling himself while on stage.

Blogger Trump Soldier August 04, 2020 9:59 PM  

With Expectations so low for Joe Biden, when Obama pops out of the cake they will make him a god.

Blogger Houston August 04, 2020 10:00 PM  

From /pol/. Could be pure fiction, but sounds plausible enough in Current Year:

"I work for Joe Biden's campaign. Unfortunately there has been an issue with him pooping his pants recently. This began back in January but we hoped it was a 1 off accident. Lately he's pooping his pants multiple times a day and he refuses to wear a diaper. He's become incredibly hard to manage and staff are signing NDA in exchange for large sums of money and quitting. I'm here because I fear he will poop his pants during the debate or the inauguration and embarrass the country I love. It's important to get this message out and let people know why Biden has been MIA."

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/250519030/

Blogger doctrev August 04, 2020 10:09 PM  

cecilhenry wrote:

I know: A real conversation.


This is one of the best reasons to have Kanye West as a presidential nominee. If the Presidential Debates are cancelled for bombs or protests, or they try to load the President down with more conditions than seen in 2016, then Trump can tell them to sit on a tack. Throw his own debate with Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald, and Andrew Neil. If Kanye is as articulate and charismatic as I think he is, it'd be a debate worth watching: and expose the "regular" debates as the fraud they are.

They'd be daring Biden to participate after that.

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile August 04, 2020 10:09 PM  

Barack Obama is the VP nominee

VP has to meet the same qualifications as Pres. Unless their really aiming for a "constitutional crisis", he's out.

Blogger Stryker4570 August 04, 2020 10:10 PM  

Even if Biden wasn't addled by dementia, he would get slaughtered in the debate. Trump could start by asking Biden about his stint as Jimmy Hoffa's lawyer back in the day and his dealings with the Teamsters before Hoffa's unfortunate 'disappearance.' Or how the 'Irishman' shut down a newspaper that was about to derail his first campaign for Senate. Follow this by asking about his aborted '88 Presidential campaign when the MSM exposed his lies about law school and he withdrew from the race in public humiliation. Then come the questions about his do nothing career in Government for the last 40 years. Wrap it up with a close look at his sons 'lucky windfalls' in the Ukraine and China after Hunter accompanied dad on State visits to those countries. After this, deluge the net with 60 second montages of little girls and women cringing and trying to escape his groping hands, while he sniffs them. No music or words, just a dozen 5 second clips, finishing with the God Emperor saying,'I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.' I'm not one much for conspiracy theories, but I straight up can't believe that Creepy Uncle Joe is the Dem's plan A for 2020.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 04, 2020 10:13 PM  

@Trump Soldier,
Dear God you're a moron. Obama is constitutionally barred from running for president or VP.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 04, 2020 10:17 PM  

With Expectations so low for Joe Biden, when Obama pops out of the cake they will make him a god.
Dear Sir, please unbunch your panties.

Blogger Ska_Boss August 04, 2020 10:17 PM  

It's afraid! .jpg

Blogger Keith August 04, 2020 10:18 PM  

I think he’s suggesting Obama as a debate stand-in for Biden, as silly as that is too.

Blogger Student in Blue August 04, 2020 10:23 PM  

Didn't they run this exact same article last election?

Blogger Lance E August 04, 2020 10:35 PM  

I agree whole-heartedly with the Times, but why stop there? Let's just cancel the election entirely! After all, it's not like any politician is offering the intelligent, thoughtful, knowledgeable, empathetic and likable personality that the informed Times reader demands. So let's just drop the act, admit that this is the best we can do, stick with the status quo and convert the US government to a hereditary Trump monarchy.

If electoral debates are pointless, surely the elections themselves are equally pointless.

Blogger Crew August 04, 2020 10:36 PM  

Well, a senile old pedophile would win any day, surely!

Blogger DroppingBear August 04, 2020 10:43 PM  

Insert Baghdad Bob meme

Blogger map August 04, 2020 10:51 PM  

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1289662669369139201.html

This is a very interesting thread I got from Anonymous Conservative commentor "Facesensitive" here:

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/q-anon-briefs-07-31-2020/

Blogger Jack Amok August 04, 2020 11:33 PM  

... and then blame it on Bad OrangeMan.

Those Boogaloos again, no doubt.

Blogger fredulent August 04, 2020 11:39 PM  

Imitation of a campaign.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) August 04, 2020 11:58 PM  

27. Bad Attitude August 04, 2020 9:58 PM
And, that is in addition to the very real risk of Creepy Joe wetting or soiling himself while on stage.


as aggressive as Joe is getting, he's liable to challenge Donny Tiny Hands to a fist fight.

agitation, irritability and difficulty modulating social behavior being primary indicators of Dementia.


https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1576120416071.jpg

Blogger Oswald August 05, 2020 12:03 AM  

I doubt Joe can answer every single day the classic question, asked of people to see if they are competent. And that is who is the current President of the United States of America.

Off topic: Hey Vox, question about your book list: Can't seem to find Prince of Shadows by Kai Wai Cheah. Found plenty of other stuff by the Author, just no Prince of Shadows. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction.

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 05, 2020 12:30 AM  

I don't think leftists care. Probably the entire intent here is for Cotton Eye Joe to fill diapers in the Oval Office while they just hand him EOs to sign and say "You said you would sign this".
Recall the film Yellowbeard where they depicted the queen as entirely clueless but had a handler who was making the real decisions.
What's really creepy is anybody who is not in on the joke who still votes for Biden. These people probably drive cars and raise kids too. This is why we need that Core Civilization book collection so civilization can collapse and slough off these deleterious people and then good men can grab those goatskinned how-to books and get things back on track in a generation or two.

Blogger Jad August 05, 2020 1:12 AM  

The debate must happen, just for the memes. There will be glorious memes. Somehow, I think some kind of conflict will be occurring by then.

Blogger Akulkis August 05, 2020 3:11 AM  

>> the bait and switch where Barack Obama is the VP nominee.

Barack Obama is not eligible to run for President, therefore, he is not eligible to run for VP.

Stop spreading moronic rumors.

Blogger Akulkis August 05, 2020 3:17 AM  

>> With Expectations so low for Joe Biden, when Obama pops out of the cake they will make him a god.



Barack Obama is not eligible to run for President, therefore, he is not eligible to run for VP.

So can it, moron.

Blogger Harambe August 05, 2020 4:49 AM  

I still say the presidential debate should be replaced with a Presidential Rap Battle followed by a lightning round of Presidential Yo Mama Jokes.

Blogger boogeyman August 05, 2020 5:25 AM  

My money is still on Biden stepping down for health reasons right after the convention, then the DNC apparatchiks filling the slot with one of their own. The rank and file shit-libs are willing to vote for a vegetable like Biden at this point, so they'd get right behind any Dem candidate placed before them without skipping a beat. Hell, they would vote for a ham sandwich, so long as it was running against the bad Orange Man.

The debate(s) still probably happen, but I suspect they won't have a live audience. The stated reason will be fear of the coof, but the real reason will be to keep Trump from playing off of the hoots and applause from the peanut gallery.

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" August 05, 2020 5:40 AM  

@10

Biden would just tell Kanye he ain't black

Blogger Brett baker August 05, 2020 6:00 AM  

+1

Blogger Brant Thacker August 05, 2020 7:57 AM  

It’s definitely not because JoJo is senile, and it’s definitely not meth!

Blogger SciVo August 05, 2020 7:59 AM  

Harambe wrote:I still say the presidential debate should be replaced with a Presidential Rap Battle followed by a lightning round of Presidential Yo Mama Jokes.

..and then the lights go down, the soft strains of "My Dick" fill the air, and as the audience shrieks and strobes start flashing, the Presidential Muh Dick Contest begins...

Blogger Leahn Novash August 05, 2020 9:01 AM  

You can be absolutely sure it's not because they fear Biden will lose it and lose it badly. Also, Biden has 237% chance of winning anyway.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-told-not-to-debate-trump-because-of-serious-cognitive-decline/

Blogger Mister Bill August 05, 2020 9:07 AM  

In the case of Joe Biden, it actually might not be meth.

Blogger Reph August 05, 2020 9:25 AM  

Definitely not meth

Blogger Jpc August 05, 2020 9:37 AM  

We will all watch that one!

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia August 05, 2020 10:29 AM  

Akulkis wrote:>> the bait and switch where Barack Obama is the VP nominee.

Barack Obama is not eligible to run for President, therefore, he is not eligible to run for VP.

Stop spreading moronic rumors.


Obviously, and thanks for the setting the record straight.

And of course, why would he and, even more important, Michele, want to get back in the game? They're ridin' a very low stress gravy train. Why get off?

Note how the rumors have completely died off of Michele as VP or even as a substitute Prez candidate once Joe "abdicates" before the election? All her energy is now devoted how to spend the royalties from the book that everybody has bought but nobody has read.

Contrast that with the Hildebeast. She would love to get back into the fray. She's so demonic and power mad, she'd re-enter in an nanosecond if the possibility presented itself.

Blogger B August 05, 2020 10:53 AM  

Of course the NYT is anti-debate. Joe Biden is incapable of stringing a comprehensible sentence together due to senility and/or progressive dementia. Everybody knows that except the NYT, it seems. We are all living in Bizarro-Land now.

But yes, there SHOULD be debates, but the debates need to be carried out in accordance with strict rules -- such as the updated Lincoln-Douglas debate rules. And, of course, the MSM should have no role whatsoever in managing the debate process.

Blogger Oswald August 05, 2020 11:03 AM  

FYI: Twelve Amendment to the Constitution states in part: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Blogger rikjames.313 August 05, 2020 12:28 PM  

Michigan's governor has issued an emergency order declaring racism a public health emergency. Her first steps are an emergency order for government implicit bias training, and a directive that forms a council of "black leaders" to study the problem and also take over the state census effort.

I would expect more orders pushing the vote to Biden.

If people recall, part of Podesta's plan is to have Michigan's governor declare Trump's electoral college members invalid and substitute in Biden's members

Blogger RadixMalorum August 05, 2020 12:49 PM  

Akulkis wrote:>> With Expectations so low for Joe Biden, when Obama pops out of the cake they will make him a god.

Barack Obama is not eligible to run for President, therefore, he is not eligible to run for VP.

So can it, moron.


Considering the left doesn't give a Rogan of a damn about the Constitution or rule of law I wouldn't eliminate the possibility entirely.

Having said that I agree Obama wouldn't run again. Biden also already committed to a female VP pick.

Blogger map August 05, 2020 2:17 PM  

Biden is not going to drop out of the race. If he did, there is nothing preventing indictments. He cannot argue that his arrest is somehow political.

Also, has anyone noticed how much Obama has aged in only four years? What kind of stress is he under?

Blogger Pseudotsuga August 05, 2020 2:21 PM  

I have it on the best authority (i.e. people on Facebook) that Biden is center-Right.
Of course, the brilliant young folks that stated this are products of the USA Leftist Propaganda factories...err, I mean, Higher Education, and one is an Masters in Education holder who currently works as a social worker, so he's got it twice as bad, an Anti-Fa / BLM supporter, etc. To them, anything to the right of their far left position is "right wing." All the Nazis which they can find to punch are actually Democrats...

Blogger Trump Soldier August 05, 2020 4:26 PM  

Barack Obama is eligible to be President for half a term if he is not elected President, therefore he is eligible to be President. He just can't run for President

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2020 4:49 PM  

Trump Soldier wrote:Barack Obama is eligible to be President for half a term if he is not elected President, therefore he is eligible to be President. He just can't run for President
It's okay to admit you were wrong. It's gamma to keep doubling down like this.

Blogger MrNiceguy August 05, 2020 5:49 PM  

I said months ago that, before the election, Biden would not only soil himself in public, but would announce -out loud- that he had done so.

My prediction may end up being wrong, but only because he is never allowed out in public.

Blogger MrNiceguy August 05, 2020 5:53 PM  

Best part of that picture is the looks on all the faces of the people in the background.

Blogger MrNiceguy August 05, 2020 6:01 PM  

The Bernie Bros will riot if the party replaces Biden at the convention.

Correction: The Bernie Bros will replace their regularly-scheduled riot with a different riot if the party replaces Biden at the convention.

Blogger Houston August 05, 2020 7:59 PM  

@61 "Joe Biden is incapable of stringing a comprehensible sentence together due to senility and/or progressive dementia."

As this excerpt from a painful farce of an interview clearly demonstrates.

https://twitter.com/BethLynch2020/status/1291016176613679104?fbclid=IwAR26WRalPSES3NPMLfStqpRIozTK8sy9s40VhkHIpWEPIlbN-U44joMaNTI

Blogger Trump Soldier August 05, 2020 8:14 PM  

Yep but I am right. And when I am proven right you will still be wrong... and will still not admit that I was right. I know how ya'LL roll.

Blogger "William Berke" August 05, 2020 9:11 PM  

How about a lame duck 3rd party run? No president has ever successfully done that to my knowledge...

Blogger Jack Amok August 05, 2020 11:14 PM  

Yep but I am right.

That's not how you spell stupid, moron.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 05, 2020 11:33 PM  

Trump Soldier wrote:Yep but I am right. And when I am proven right you will still be wrong... and will still not admit that I was right. I know how ya'LL roll.
Over/under on when his gamma meltdown arrives? I give it a week. Tuesday Aug 11 or before.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) August 05, 2020 11:47 PM  

49. Akulkis August 05, 2020 3:17 AM
Barack Obama is not eligible to run for President


why should that be a concern now? the COLB he produced was a laughably obvious forgery.

why would he do that if he was eligible the first time around?

Blogger Akulkis August 06, 2020 12:56 PM  

>> Also, has anyone noticed how much Obama has aged in only four years? What kind of stress is he under?

Running a shadow government inside the real government from his mansion in DC, plus running antifa and BLM all while trying to keep it all subtle enough to not attract state and local law enforcement, and the sedition and other charges that come with it has got to be stressful.

Blogger Akulkis August 06, 2020 12:58 PM  

>>Barack Obama is eligible to be President for half a term if he is not elected President, therefore he is eligible to be President. He just can't run for President

NO, HE IS NOT YOU RETARD.

The only way to serve more than 2 full terms is if you come into office mid-term.

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