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Sunday, August 02, 2020

Tell it to the steel workers

Being a foreign concern, Tik Tok doesn't seem to understand that the threat of losing jobs has not historically saved companies in the USA:
TikTok tells Axios it plans to add thousands of jobs in the U.S. over the next few years — ripping a familiar page from the "companies under fire" playbook.

The big picture: Chinese-owned TikTok is working to distance itself from Beijing in the face of a threatened ban from the Trump administration and broader scrutiny out of Washington, where policymakers are looking to blunt China's influence and economic might.

Driving the news: TikTok plans to add 10,000 jobs in the U.S. in the next three years as user growth explodes, spokesperson Josh Gartner told Axios.
  • TikTok's U.S. job growth has already nearly tripled this year, going from almost 500 employees Jan. 1 to just under 1,400.
  • The company plans to hire for jobs in engineering, sales, content moderation and customer service, with a focus on growing workforces in California, New York, Texas, Florida and Tennessee, Gartner said.
  • "It’s supporting the tremendous growth in the country and follows our strategy of building out teams where we have users," Gartner told Axios.
Between the lines: TikTok's ongoing hiring spree also includes the addition of more than 35 lobbyists meant to convince the Trump administration and lawmakers of the company's independence from China, according to a New York Times report.
There is something very ironic about a Chinese company warning about the potential loss of American jobs, considering how many American jobs have been lost over the last 50 years to free trade dogma.

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44 Comments:

Blogger JACIII August 02, 2020 5:45 AM  

Learn to plumb.

Blogger Akulkis August 02, 2020 5:52 AM  

It doesn't matter what the Chinese say... they are not trustworthy.

Blogger Dave in Ahia August 02, 2020 6:40 AM  

I would be surprised if any of those jobs went to actual Americans.

Blogger YehudaL August 02, 2020 6:42 AM  

Hopefully TikTok is allowed to continue operating in the US. Otherwise no one would know how hard MDs & nurses are twerking to eradicate Covid19.

Blogger Gregory the Tall August 02, 2020 6:57 AM  

From their TOS:
"ARBITRATION NOTICE FOR USERS IN THE UNITED STATES: THESE TERMS CONTAIN AN ARBITRATION CLAUSE AND A WAIVER OF RIGHTS TO BRING A CLASS ACTION AGAINST US. EXCEPT FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DISPUTES MENTIONED IN THAT ARBITRATION CLAUSE, YOU AND TIKTOK AGREE THAT DISPUTES BETWEEN US WILL BE RESOLVED BY MANDATORY BINDING ARBITRATION, AND YOU AND TIKTOK WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT OR CLASS-WIDE ARBITRATION."
Does anybody know enough about their business model to say if there could be past, present or future cases of tortious interference against multiple parties?

Blogger Critias August 02, 2020 7:00 AM  

I don't understand what 10,000 new people working for 'tik tok' would be doing all day? It's just an app which is already made and possibly close to as many users as it's going to get.

They aren't creating anything.

Blogger Troushers August 02, 2020 7:08 AM  

The TikTok story also shows how little Apple or Android stores take seriously protecting their users against exploitation.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 02, 2020 7:13 AM  

"add 10,000 jobs in the U.S."

By eliminating how many others? What's it look like to scale? 10,000 jobs for who exactly? Yeah, rhetoric is cheap.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 02, 2020 7:16 AM  

The TikTok story also shows how little Apple or Android stores take seriously protecting their users against exploitation.
Google/Apple don't care about exploiting their users unless it interferes with their own exploitation of those users.

Blogger "William Berke" August 02, 2020 7:16 AM  

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Blogger Paulito August 02, 2020 7:17 AM  

@6 They're doing things like maintaining and implementing server infrastructure, customer service, and, of course, the rest are HR and probably way too many layers of useless managers/execs.

Blogger Damelon Brinn August 02, 2020 7:42 AM  

"TikTok tells Axios it plans to add thousands of jobs in the U.S. over the next few years"

Why on earth would it do that? There's no reason for a service like that to have a single American employee. If it's gotten to where it is without them, there's no reason for it to take on the increased regulatory burden of hiring Americans.

Of course, I'm making a false assumption there (as they intended). "Adding jobs in the U.S." doesn't necessarily mean hiring a single American. All the jobs could be filled by foreigners they plan to import.

"TikTok's ongoing hiring spree also includes the addition of more than 35 lobbyists"

Oh. I don't think lobbyists count in "hiring American."

Blogger "William Berke" August 02, 2020 8:14 AM  

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Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile August 02, 2020 8:17 AM  

I don't understand what 10,000 new people working for 'tik tok' would be doing all day?

"The company plans to hire for jobs in engineering, sales, content moderation and customer service"

Blogger Difranco August 02, 2020 8:18 AM  

Microsoft appears to be in advanced talks to buy Tiktok. The God Emperor is getting MS the best price possible by devaluing the company.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 02, 2020 8:26 AM  

Remember a direct threat from President Trump is usually an indirect offer.

Unlike that open sewer of self-righteous illiteracy, Twitter. TikTok is more vulnerable to the executive authority of the Federal government because it is foreign owned.

And I strongly suspect Trump would like to move away from Twitter. Users are fleeing it right and ... Mostly Right. It is the Left that is staying on Twitter and there is little to be gained from preaching to that choir.

If you can't have access to a friendly platform, then having access to a frightened one will work just fine.

Blogger MATT August 02, 2020 8:30 AM  

No, we have enough dumb whiney babies

I mean... --

Theres no money in plumbing! Uuhhh...pay no attention to the man behind the welding shield!

Blogger Bobiojimbo August 02, 2020 9:23 AM  

I checked out TikTok last night. It is super gay. Society will be better off without it.

Blogger Stilicho August 02, 2020 9:29 AM  

Tik Tok is just being Chinese

Blogger JG August 02, 2020 9:30 AM  

But, but, but... what will the poor THOTs, Simps, and Pedos do with their time if Tik Tok is banned?

Blogger Shane Bradman August 02, 2020 9:32 AM  

Good luck convincing the most famous businessman in the world that a piece of junk software (spyware) will employ 10,000 people.

Blogger Skyler the Weird August 02, 2020 9:49 AM  

In other words 10000 Chinese Immigrants will be brought over to work for TikTok

Blogger Doktor Jeep August 02, 2020 10:03 AM  

Those 10000 jobs are going to be urban SJW hires who will have nothing to do all day and draw a paycheck while participating in online rage mobs and cancel culture.
Hopefully nobody takes this bait.

Blogger Section 8A August 02, 2020 10:09 AM  

India has already banned TikTok.

Blogger Wazdakka August 02, 2020 10:22 AM  

Apple takes customer exploitation very seriously, I mean the are masters at it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 02, 2020 10:28 AM  

Critias wrote:I don't understand what 10,000 new people working for 'tik tok' would be doing all day? It's just an app which is already made and possibly close to as many users as it's going to get.
Trust and safety councils, comrad. Also looking for blackmail material; the AI can scan for flesh, but it takes a human to know compromat.

Blogger Dad29 August 02, 2020 10:39 AM  

There is something even MORE ironic about MS' potential purchase of TikTok, as MS has shipped lotsa jobs to PRC and India.

And why would anyone with an IQ above room-temp think that MS will eradicate the spyware embedded in TikTok?

Sheesh.

Blogger Sheila4g August 02, 2020 10:51 AM  

So half the jobs will go to Han already here, and the other half will go to thots, AWFLs and POCs to twerk and influence other thots, AWFLs and POCs. Global capitalism, a force for . . .

Blogger Ska_Boss August 02, 2020 11:11 AM  

The company plans to hire for...content moderation in...California.

Perhaps Owen should create an account in case they aren't banned. Déjà vu

Blogger RadixMalorum August 02, 2020 11:13 AM  

Will this affect the prediction VD made about the coming Chinese competition to destroy inefficient and converted US tech companies? If Trump will end up banning or forcing any Chinese tech company that gets big enough in the US to sell wouldn't this just protect converged big tech since it eliminates their chief competition?

Blogger Seeingsights August 02, 2020 11:15 AM  

Banning Tik-Tok would decrease the likelihood of war.

How so you might ask?

Tik-Tok is one of the Chinese's governments spying arms.

Think about the history of espionage. Spying and war go hand in hand.

If your opponent does not have important information about you, then your opponent will refrain from certain actions against you, it would be too risky from their perspective.

To illustrate my point: As mentioned earlier in this thread, India has banned Tik-Tok. India has also banned numerous other Chinese apps.

India and China are in a border conflict. India, by banning Chinese apps, means that China gets lets information about India that might be useful to China in their border conflict.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 02, 2020 12:15 PM  

Ganymede•juno•xx19-/+543 wrote:A story of caution from America
Whatever it is that you're trying to say, it is not getting through. Try plain English, with simple declarative sentences that address directly the thing you want to say.

Blogger RobertDWood August 02, 2020 2:41 PM  

Don't feed the troll!

Blogger Bezzle August 02, 2020 3:43 PM  

Talks with Microsoft now on hold.

Blogger Paul M August 02, 2020 4:25 PM  

There is no such thing as a Chinese company independent of the Chinese government. Under communism, the means of production belong to The People - there is no such thing as a private company. Every chinese company has a political officer whose job is to see that the company operates in the best interests of the state. Frankly - it's a fine idea, even and obviously correct one. All incorporated bodies are constructs of state power, anyway.

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 02, 2020 4:57 PM  

Best Related Work Hugo 2020

Winner - “2019 John W. Campbell Award Acceptance Speech”, by Jeannette Ng

No I didn't make that up. That is what she won her first proper Hugo award for.
Her acceptance speech from last year.

The one where this most gifted of last year's word smythe's referred to John W. Campbell as a "fucking fascist."

Such elegant prose.

And when she won this year, George RR Martin couldn't be bothered to pronounce her name right.

THIS IS THE WORST KIND OF RASCISM!

THE KIND AGAINST ME!!!"

Blogger Cataline Sergius August 02, 2020 4:58 PM  

Sorry for the cross post. Just delete it.

Blogger Don M. August 02, 2020 9:09 PM  

Unfortunately I don't think Trump has been on Tik Tok. Most of the people there are young and overwhelmingly Trump supporters. So there's lots of great videos supporting him or conservatives in various ways. Banning Tik Tok now, before the election, seems like a big mistake, as he needs all the media help he can get. And to me, Tik Tok seems to be the most conservative of all the social media plattforms. Certainly the most Trump friendly. I hardly ever see any leftist or SJW BS there.

Blogger MrNiceguy August 02, 2020 10:08 PM  

Try plain English, with simple declarative sentences that address directly the thing you want to say.

... Said every man to every woman.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 03, 2020 2:12 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Whatever it is that you're trying to say, it is not getting through. Try plain English, with simple declarative sentences that address directly the thing you want to say.
I was guessing that the nice doctors need to adjust his medication.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 03, 2020 10:42 AM  

"Try plain English"

Might not be intended to make sense. Code?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 03, 2020 10:52 AM  

Oh, he's talking about a bread machine hook that has a proposition 65 warning against it in California. It's a reference to the post's reference to steel workers. He's saying that the over-regulation of our steelworking generally and the EPA's interference specifically is costing our people jobs. He might also be implying that someone was assassinated in order to move steel part production out of the USA, maybe.

Not a troll, he just doesn't speak humanese.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd August 03, 2020 1:37 PM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:Not a troll, he just doesn't speak humanese.
Or the nice doctors still haven't gotten his anti-psychotic med dosage quite right. Or he's sending coded messages to the mother ship which is hiding behind the comet. No doubt all the aliens in the solar system read this blog daily.

Blogger The Last Roman August 03, 2020 8:35 PM  

I spent a few years in the Rust Belt. It is a disheartening sight--an industrial skeleton. And this blight is spreading. Something must be done to counter de-industrialization. We have to push for nationalist leaders and wean ourselves off Chinese markets.

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