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Thursday, October 15, 2020

"Nobody believes you guys"

The media is gradually beginning to grasp that their relentless demoralization campaign has failed completely:

President Donald Trump trails Joe Biden by 10 points in national polls. He’s getting badly outspent due to a depleted warchest. And his contraction of the coronavirus has yet again turned a harsh light on his handling of a seven-month pandemic.

A good number of rank-and-file Republican voters and local party officials see no cause for concern. They’re still convinced Trump is winning.

Far outside the political media centers of Washington, D.C. and New York, the Trump voters who propelled the reality TV star to a shock victory in 2016 once again see him on a glide path to victory that will stupefy only a hostile media and out-of-touch elites.

The frenzied crowds he’s attracting as he returns to the trail and the Trump banners flying in their neighborhoods measure enthusiasm that can’t be accurately tracked by surveys, they argue. The cascade of negative stories from his downplaying of the pandemic to his private insults of military service members are shrugged off or disbelieved.

And remember how wrong many of the state-based polls were last time? They certainly do.

We'll find out soon enough. What will happen will happen. But as the ex-governor said, no one believes the Fake Polls put forth by the Fake News. No one should. Because it is transparently false.

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80 Comments:

Blogger Chip Hazard October 15, 2020 1:07 PM  

This is all bullshit, bargain-basement Sun Tzu barely worthy of the subject.

The attempt to demoralize the average voter before the final battle is joined is clearly a last ditch, 11th hour tactic.

It will only serve to 1) energize the MAGA base, and 2) Make the Biden people (all 200 something of them) to stay home because they've already won.

How pathetically predictable.

Blogger Ibelin October 15, 2020 1:13 PM  

This post got me a little worried, usually you say Trump slide cometh and now you said whatever happens happens. Vox, Are you feeling that Trump may not win now?

Blogger Zach October 15, 2020 1:14 PM  

"I would trust a sibling telling me the electric fence is turned off, before I would trust ANYTHING in the news today."

- Marc MacYoung

Blogger sammibandit October 15, 2020 1:16 PM  

He asks the banks of media cameras to show the whole stadium at each rally and they all balk, just keeping him in a one-shot. I surmise he's the stadium rock equivalent of Van Halen or Slayer--filled to the brim with people listening outside who can't get in.

I bet Biden has a hard time even getting Staph or MERS to show up to his rallies and they're everywhere.

Blogger Unknown October 15, 2020 1:34 PM  

With Brexit, I suspect the demoralization campaign via the fake polls actually had the opposite effect. I worked with a gullible remainer who believed the polls and didn't bother voting. Brexiteers like myself ignored the polls.

The moral of the story is that establishment puppets are more likely to believe the polls, therefore complacency among establishment puppets is the more likely result of fake polls, not demoralization among nationalists.

Blogger basementhomebrewer October 15, 2020 1:35 PM  

But our polls are really real this time! for realz! Also our negative stories about Trump are corroborated by 6 million anonymous sources! 6! Million!

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 15, 2020 1:48 PM  

Biden is tracking behind Clinton in the battleground states, the ones that matter.

Blogger Barbarossa October 15, 2020 2:00 PM  

He’s getting badly outspent due to a depleted warchest.

Doesn't it ever occur to these "expert" prognosticators that as an ace businessman that Trump doesn't waste money on efforts he considers useless, especially since he has the media to advertise him 24/7?

Also, I seem to vaguely recall another billionaire who "badly outspent" all of his opponents to include an old man in the throes of dementia, a shrill white woman pretending to be an Indian, a shrill Indian woman pretending to be black, and a fabulous small-time mayor with a last name that just couldn't be true, and yet didn't move win a single primary delegate. What was his name again?

Blogger Weak October 15, 2020 2:08 PM  

How could you tell that Biden is tracking behind Clinton in battleground states? The polls were fake then and are faker now.

Blogger Macs October 15, 2020 2:12 PM  

I might trust the polls a little more if there wasnt also a blatant vote fraud plan being enacted. If they were theoretically trying to rig the election, then fake polls would be required to make it pass.

Blogger xevious2030 October 15, 2020 2:15 PM  

Media Lingo
Fact: Anonymous sources and leprechauns
Nonsense: Verifiably documented and videoed

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 15, 2020 2:16 PM  

Ibelin wrote:This post got me a little worried, usually you say Trump slide cometh and now you said whatever happens happens. Vox, Are you feeling that Trump may not win now?
Has anything changed since the last time Vox predicted a Trumpslide? I don't think so.

Blogger Johnny October 15, 2020 2:22 PM  

I take Trump to the the easy favorite in the upcoming election. But not quite for sure. What is certain is how screwed we will be if he goes down. Aside from the obvious incompetence of the other side, if they win, their current methods of controlling events will be more thoroughly implemented the new from now on. Expect the US to be run like one of those terminally corrupt and mismanaged Latin countries.

Blogger Unknown October 15, 2020 2:22 PM  

I saw the first media hedge articles today.

Trump is being helped by the coming fake Gross Domestic Product report and the fake Burisma news story, which may make the polls less accurate

Blogger Lance E October 15, 2020 2:26 PM  

They've tried to retcon history so it looks like the 2020 polls are even worse for Trump than 2016. They do this by comparing the most outrageous polls today with the least outrageous polls a few days before the 2016 election, so that they can say "our polls weren't that bad before, only a few points off." But in actual fact, the 2020 polls are identical to the 2016 polls at the same time of year within a single percentage point.

All of the real indicators that have historically been more accurate than polls and are more difficult to fudge point to Trump: economic indicators, in-party support, record-setting new voter registrations, donations, etc.

Here's the real kicker: pollsters are underestimating support most drastically in the same demographic as they did in 2016: the white working class. They haven't fixed any of the problems. The polls supposedly show that Trump has improved with black and Hispanic voters but "lost" many white voters, and some pundits like AE have been taken in by this, but what they actually show is that Trump has improved with black and Hispanic voters and hasn't lost WWC support, because blacks vote monolithically but whites don't.

It's going to be like 2016, but even more "surprising" to the Nate Silvers of the world.

Blogger ZhukovG October 15, 2020 2:27 PM  

Vox, your example of rhetoric, in the earlier post, would apply well to the author of the referenced article.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Trid October 15, 2020 2:30 PM  

Rig the polls for Biden so Biden voters think President Trump voters are rigging the polls to make Biden seem like he'll win so Biden voters stay home, thus energizing Biden's supporters.

Classic Serbian Jew double bluff

Blogger Balkan Yankee October 15, 2020 2:36 PM  

The other day Trump tweeted that his campaign is not having money problems, but if it were, he said he would spend his own money.

Trump is not a profligate campaign spender. He holds a dim view of TV advertising. And no politician is better than Trump at winning free media coverage at will.

The Trump campaign has, however, invested boatloads in a first-rate ground game. Which is going to make the difference.

One last point: If Biden really were leading by 10+ points, why isn't he campaigning in Texas? Why isn't he actively campaigning with Democratic Senate candidates?


Blogger Damelon Brinn October 15, 2020 2:50 PM  

Clinton badly outspent Trump too. Their argument is, "Republicans think it's 2016 all over again, but here are some more ways it's like 2016."

Blogger Jack Amok October 15, 2020 2:52 PM  

Hmmm, from the article:

As she waited in a line outside a recent event for former Vice President Mike Pence, she remained confident in Trump’s ability to carry Arizona...

Wishcasting there, eh McClatchy.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 15, 2020 2:54 PM  

Barbarossa wrote:Also, I seem to vaguely recall another billionaire who "badly outspent" all of his opponents ... and yet didn't move win a single primary delegate. What was his name again?
Bernie isn't a billionaire, is he? Pretty sure Bernie was in the Dem primary clown car.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 15, 2020 2:57 PM  

On twitter the GE's supporters are having fun at the censors expense, as if a link needs to be posted to mention a censored story or what the information is.

And Cackles' campaign has two staffers tested positive for Corona-chan, will they follow their own advice and check into the ICU right away or power thru it taking away one of their supposed can't lose issues?

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 15, 2020 3:01 PM  

@8 Barbarossa: Don't forget that Hillary and the Dems outspent Trump and the GOP 2-1 in 2016. And now Trump has the bully pulpit; I don't recall Obama being terribly enthused by Hillary back then or any time.

Blogger Unknown October 15, 2020 3:07 PM  

*He’s getting badly outspent due to a depleted warchest.*

Felonia Milhous vonPantsuit outspent Trump 2:1 in 2016. She had the Obama Administration spying on the Trump campaign. She got easily $2B in direct, in-kind contributions from the media.

And Trump still won.

Blogger VFM Bear October 15, 2020 3:15 PM  

@3 Zach

Is that the electric fence from Don't Whiz on the Electric Fence?

Blogger Rakshasa October 15, 2020 3:17 PM  

I've yet to hear any explanation for the polls more convincing than the one that the red mirage is going to be followed by a fake blue surge.

No need for the obsession over conspiracy theories about demoralization or silent supporters, they've already announced their plans.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd October 15, 2020 3:21 PM  

Amen! Oh and Rule Britannia!

Blogger Up from the pond October 15, 2020 3:29 PM  

Why doesn't Vox rename his blog to The Trumpslide Cometh and do Darkstreams with The Trumpslide Cometh painted on his bare chest and change his legal name to The Trumpslide Cometh?

Blogger drsmith48167 October 15, 2020 3:38 PM  

One thing we have to remember there are more than one person, both Democrat and Republican that will hold their nose them later run to the bathroom to puke 🤮 just because they voted for Biden - they aren’t fit the guy, they just have massive cases of TDS.

The above being said, still think POTUS wins in a near landslide, as there are even more “shy Trump” voters than ever out there. I’m not worried about who will win, more about the direction of the country continues to head in - no matter who wins, i see if only gaining speed towards Democratic Socialism or worse.....things will get a lot worse before better. For instance, apparently US military now thinks it is acceptable to have 50% civilian causality rate for the resulting counter strike from a US nuclear first strike.....yup, the official doctrine of mutually assured destruction (MAD) is no longer in place. Let that sink in for a moment, then you will realize what is really going on - preparing all of us non 1% for the “Great Reset”

Blogger drsmith48167 October 15, 2020 3:40 PM  

Yup - so true 6 million anonymous sources can’t be wrong!

Blogger Brett baker October 15, 2020 3:41 PM  

But he's going to beat Trump with ads!

Blogger Doom October 15, 2020 3:43 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote: But our polls are really real this time! for realz! Also our negative stories about Trump are corroborated by 6 million anonymous sources! 6! Million!

Dead Jews, by any chance? Asking for a friend.

Blogger Noah B. October 15, 2020 4:26 PM  

A helpful reminder from CNN that Qanon is discredited and listening to (non FakeNews-sanctioned) conspiracy theories is terror.

"According to QAnon, President Donald Trump is secretly working to stop a child sex cabal run by Hollywood and political elites who will one day be revealed during an apocalyptic event known as The Storm." - CNN

Isn't it enlightening that they would characterize mass arrests of pedophiles and criminal government officials as 'apocalyptic?'

Blogger FisherOfMen October 15, 2020 4:28 PM  

>Sam Murray is a 72-year-old white woman from Phoenix who is sticking with the president, doesn’t believe the polls or the reporting that Trump disparaged Americans who died in wars as “suckers and losers.”

Heh, bad example to use.

Blogger Jpc October 15, 2020 4:35 PM  

😅 very good

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 15, 2020 4:51 PM  

How could you tell that Biden is tracking behind Clinton in battleground states?

The "even according to their own polls" was silent. I assume it's actually much better for Trump than they're saying.

Blogger JD Curtis October 15, 2020 4:58 PM  

Rush Limbaugh stated today that one of the top-tier 'elite' media personalities (a woman) had contacted him and wanted to ask him something (off the record if he'd prefer).
Rush was hesitant and asked the assistant that got him on the phone what she wanted to ask him. The assistant didn't know so he said ask her.
She basically wanted to know if he would urge his listeners to keep calm on election night.
He didn't take the call and found the question insulting, especially when one thinks of all the leftist violence that has occurred over the last several months.
Are they setting up something?
I'm thinking mass vote by mail fraud but we'll see.

Blogger xevious2030 October 15, 2020 4:59 PM  

We know it's not 2016, because it's 2016.

Blogger RadixMalorum October 15, 2020 5:00 PM  

I’m shocked some people still believe the fake news. They are relentless and blatant in their lying. At least there’s now perfect moral clarity in who’s right and wrong. People who still believe them are unsalvageable and no more time need to be wasted in trying to convince them.

Blogger Dan in Georgia October 15, 2020 5:19 PM  

The Trumpslide is never late nor early, it arrives precisely when it means to.

Blogger Barbarossa October 15, 2020 5:46 PM  

@21 No, not that particular clown. Can't remember his name, though. Apparently was the mayor of some city and had a thing about regulating Big Gulps. He was like 1.5 Rogans tall.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz October 15, 2020 5:51 PM  

Forgive me if I white knuckle this out...I'm too old and ornery to put too much faith in my fellow Americans...

Blogger Niles Northern October 15, 2020 5:56 PM  

A necessary message to so-called progressives.

https://youtu.be/Cb2yko9NAbA

Blogger VFM #7634 October 15, 2020 6:24 PM  

One last point: If Biden really were leading by 10+ points, why isn't he campaigning in Texas? Why isn't he actively campaigning with Democratic Senate candidates?

Yeah, Biden would be camping out in Texas, Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina rather than the Rust Belt if he really were as ahead of Trump as made out.

Blogger pinroot October 15, 2020 6:24 PM  

Try Bloomberg...

Blogger Meng Greenleaf October 15, 2020 6:25 PM  

I voted by mail, straight GOP.

Conversations with the average NPC are starting to change little by little. They seem to flinch a little less vigorously when I tell them Trump will curb stomp Sniffy Joe :D

Blogger Jack Amok October 15, 2020 6:37 PM  

Good freaking grief, it's been a long time since I pointed my browser at MSNBC.com, but I figured I'd see if they had anything about Hunter.

Nope. Nada. Front page has:

-Story claiming GOP voter suppression
-COVID is bad for feminists.
-Trump sides with enemies of the state
-Republicans don't care about democracy
-Rudy Giuliani cried wolf over Ukraine (kinda surprised to see Ukraine mentioned at all)
-Trump COVID policy a failure.

Nothing about Hunter, or the spiking of the story, nothing about Scully being put on leave from C-SPAN for lying about his tweets...

The 27 people left in the world who still get their news from MSNBC are going to be in for a rude surprise if they ever wake up.

Blogger matism October 15, 2020 7:15 PM  

The tribe run the Media in the West. And they yearn for the "good old days" of their Messiahs - Lenin and Stalin. What ELSE would you expect them to do?????????????

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot October 15, 2020 7:21 PM  

And his contraction of the coronavirus has yet again turned a harsh light on his handling of a seven-month pandemic.

This is probably my favorite bit of agitprop. There's not one thing he could have done that wouldn't make them squeal like the little piggies that they are. Order mandatory masks? "AKSHUWAL HITLER!". Go directly to lock down? "FASZIZM IN AMERICA!". Advocate some common sense precautions but carry on as normal otherwise? "YER KILLING US!"

Blogger Bezzle October 15, 2020 7:27 PM  

Count the people at Biden rallies.

Count the people at Trump rallies.

Your head is a bolt torqued into a hole with an impact wrench if you think this race is up for grabs.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 15, 2020 7:38 PM  

Barbarossa wrote:@21 No, not that particular clown. Can't remember his name, though. Apparently was the mayor of some city and had a thing about regulating Big Gulps. He was like 1.5 Rogans tall.
Wait, Buttgag wasn't even a millionaire. Was there another mayor in the clown car ... hold on, Big Gulps ... that dude who ruined New York? Whazzizname?

Blogger kurt9 October 15, 2020 7:46 PM  

The liberal-leftist activities will get more and more wacko as election day approaches.

Blogger Dire Badger October 15, 2020 7:51 PM  

The Vegas Odds makers are giving Trump 3 to 1. And that only because there are so many liberal suckers.

Bookies always know.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 15, 2020 8:03 PM  

Why would you vote by mail? Easiest way to have your vote "lost", accidentally or otherwise.
In general, we need to encourage everyone to get off butts and vote Trump, in person or otherwise, whether in a solid red or blue state. Need to deprive the Dems of their "but muh popular vote!" talking point if possible.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 15, 2020 8:03 PM  

How could you tell that Biden is tracking behind Clinton in battleground states?

Voter registration data consistently indicates as such, with consistent R advantages over 2016. Based on that, Trump should win PA by over 200k votes, and his margin in FL might be pushing a half million.

Blogger Jeroth October 15, 2020 8:04 PM  

They are beyond desperate. They are going to do anything and everything to win, so Trump must do anything and everything to stop them. I just hope he is willing to.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 15, 2020 8:07 PM  

What is scary how many older people who *do* vote, say 65 or 70 and up, who still all get their news from ABCCBSNBC or maybe CNN. "Moderates" buying to he meanie Trump narrative, or the lifelong reflexive Dem voters who think Biden of 2020 is still actually for what he would have been for in 1984 or 1988.

Blogger Zach October 15, 2020 8:07 PM  

@25

Seen on Faceborg. Don't know the original source.

But I grew up around electric fences. "Trust me, it's off" is an early lesson :)

Blogger RedJack October 15, 2020 8:15 PM  

As always, pay attention to what the other side does. Multiple releases about how Q is Hitler, White Militia attacking the Democrat, and arrest all all MAGA protestors. They are wondering what will happen when all the ammo being bought shows back up, and the counter moves start

Blogger xevious2030 October 15, 2020 8:27 PM  

There are sides, real sides, and at this point, that makes the difference. Tares coming to the age of distinction.

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" October 15, 2020 9:16 PM  

And so it begins:

BBC News now has a piece on its front page titled 'How Trump can still win the election'. They're saying 'he can still pull off another surprise win'.

The whole media establishment must be literally cacking themselves, not to mention the social media who are headed directly for the gibbet by the looks of things. They know their lies can't change the fact that when the day comes, and Trump absolutely annihilates Biden, things will really turn sour for them. 4chan has been totally flooded with shills dropping 9 carat gems of shareblue idiocy like "The Hunter pics have been debunked by hundreds of journalists", ffs, how do you debunk a photo of a man with a meth pipe in his gob!? Is it medicinal meth? Is it actually a decorative tongue adornment? Perhaps he smoked it but didn't inhale?

Looking good lads, looking good. This timeline is fun!

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 15, 2020 9:52 PM  

Snopes "debunked" it by saying it's a meth pipe, not a crack pipe. That let them put a big "FALSE" graphic on the page, hoping most people won't actually read to see what's false about it and assume that applies to the whole thing.

That's what you get from a liberal ex-couple and a cat.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf October 15, 2020 10:12 PM  

Newscaper312 wrote:Why would you vote by mail?I'm overseas. I will say this year was fine, and I received ballots per normal - until the November election. Then I was sent an email with attachments and piss-poor instructions.

I'll follow up with the county clerk. Yes, if you can, get down and vote in person. Bring as many friends as can fit in your vehicle.

Blogger Double E October 15, 2020 10:40 PM  

The Vegas Odds makers are giving Trump 3 to 1. And that only because there are so many liberal suckers.

Bookies always know.

Pssh! where?

I'd take +300 in a heartbeat. Best I've found anywhere over the past couple months is around +170 (not even 2 to 1).

I got him in 2016 at almost 12 to 1. Made a few bucks on that one :)

Blogger Hylemorphist October 15, 2020 11:10 PM  

The term “Fake News” is now almost synonymous with MSM and its owners (often Fake Americans).
Next up “Fake Billionaires” that made their “Fake Money” from hedge funds and other extractive and/or usurious methods.

Blogger Kentucky Packrat October 15, 2020 11:45 PM  

I meant to post this a couple of days ago on an earlier political post, but I didn't get a chance.

The way the Democrats in Kentucky are acting for the McGrath election show that they don't think Biden will win.

Amy McGrath has been chosen as the sacrificial Democrat to run against Mitch McConnell. Mrs. McGrath was cleared by the Powers that Be recently to start running commercials with Republican voters talking about how they were voting for Donald Trump, but against Mitch McConnell.

If there is a "Blue Tide" coming, they should be expecting Kentucky to swing. We've always been a purplish state, and we just elected a Democratic governor (even if he'd be a Republican in nearly any other state). If they thought they'd help at all, they'd have Biden or Harris in Louisville or Lexington at a McGrath campaign rally. Illustrious Potentate (aka Andy Dandy-Tale, the KY Governor) would figure out a way to exempt the McGrath event from our COVID rules, but keep Mitch in Washington.

The national Senate and KY state Democrats know Biden/Harris is a lost cause, but want to try to get Mitch out, so they've allowed Amy to go for the "Trump Democrats" to oppose Mitch. They're willing to go scorched earth to ruin McGrath's political future (not that she has much of one) and Biden's chances in Kentucky (ditto) at a last-ditch shot at Mitch.

It reeks of desperation to me.

Blogger Kentucky Packrat October 15, 2020 11:49 PM  

I hit send too early:

I've been wondering the last few days if they're trying to set up another popular vote "win", to attack the Electoral College. With a couple of exceptions, the mail in vote effort is happening in locked blue states that aren't going Trump if God himself sent an angel with voting instructions. If Trump is past margin of fraud in the battleground states, perhaps they're going for the long game: trying to get enough support to invalidate the EC down the road, and be able to control the elections by controlling NY, CA, and a couple of other states.

Blogger DanF October 16, 2020 12:28 AM  

@Double E

pinnacle has trump at just under 3.00 now and for the past couple weeks.

12 to 1 in 2016, wish that were come around again.

Blogger Goofilin October 16, 2020 1:27 AM  

In the US it is illegal to vote on presidential elections. There are NO odds in Vegas.

In Europe, where you CAN vote for US presidential elections, the odds are:

Joe Biden -215
Don Trump +175

This is of Oct 15

Anonymous Anonymous October 16, 2020 1:46 AM  

Aside from the fake polls, Fake news is just unlistenable now. I forced myself to listen to NPR today and within seconds I was inundated by black people whining. The next program was more black people whining. The program after that was about white supremacy and illegal militia groups and how they're going to try to start a civil war because of Trump. Do white liberals ever just get tired of it?

Blogger Argus Bacchus October 16, 2020 6:26 AM  

@jessant

NPR = Negro Problems on Repeat

or

Neo-Palestinian Preoccupations on Repeat


Take your pick.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 16, 2020 6:32 AM  

@49 Crunchy Cachalot:

And his contraction of the coronavirus has yet again turned a harsh light on his handling of a seven-month pandemic.

This is probably my favorite bit of agitprop. There's not one thing he could have done that wouldn't make them squeal like the little piggies that they are.


Letting the FDA (probably enemy action) and CDC (probably their usual infectious disease control incompetence, it's no longer fashionable) only allow testing of 4,000 people from Jun 10th to February 28th is an exception, one for which he explicitly stated he was accepting no responsibility. You're right about masks, but we've all noted how the executive including the Surgeon General he appointed first said masks bad, then masks good. That Saint Fauci later admitted the former position was based on reserving them for healthcare workers doesn't overall help.

This also threw a harsh light on his overweening narcissism from his unfiltered by the media behavior, which can be plausibly interpreted as sociopathy. We're also from normal reasons not going to have a vaccine ready for an EUA before the election (the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA trials are coming along well, but just aren't quite far enough along, their have been issues with two Western viral vector ones, and there are 3 PRC and 1 Russian also in Phase III). All in all, if he loses for real, something we'll probably never know, it will be from this issue and its importance to the elderly part of the Republican base.

@67 Kentucky Packrat:

I've been wondering the last few days if they're trying to set up another popular vote "win", to attack the Electoral College.

If the Constitution and its normal operation are still in effect, its hard to see how enough smaller population states would ratify an amendment that would make them forever irrelevant in Presidential elections. So this is wishful thinking or something a lot more malign.

@70 jessant:

Aside from the fake polls, Fake news is just unlistenable now. I forced myself to listen to NPR today....

So, I turn on the radio and this preacher is talking about how the sky is going to burn and the seas are going boil, and about how the great Defiler and Corrupter is upon the land and I listened to that shit for FORTY FIVE MINUTES before I realized it was NPR. - Tamara K. @TamSlick

The program after that was about white supremacy and illegal militia groups and how they're going to try to start a civil war because of Trump.

It's quite the gambit, vote for Biden or the country gets it. It remains to be seen if or when they'll push the country into a real, hot widespread shooting civil war, but that's how the Left inevitably rolls unless stopped one way or another. VD's prediction still holds.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 16, 2020 7:28 AM  

All in all, if he loses for real, something we'll probably never know, it will be from this issue and its importance to the elderly part of the Republican base.

There have been indications that seniors are shifting toward Trump. The coronavirus actually sweeping the entire country (rather than being confined to a few urban centers) has had the paradoxical effect of many of these seniors finding out firsthand or secondhand that for the vast majority of them corona is a nothingburger, and the media is just gratuitously scaring the crap out of everyone, which in turn is making them disgusted with the Democrats for blowing up the economy.

Blogger Avalanche October 16, 2020 8:31 AM  

@21 "I seem to vaguely recall another billionaire who "badly outspent" ...
Bernie isn't a billionaire, is he? Pretty sure Bernie was in the Dem primary clown car."

See? It even didn't move YOUR needle... Li'l Mike? Bloomie? I only remember him cause I'm originally FROM NY...

Blogger B October 16, 2020 9:23 AM  

There's one Biden sign on my street, and another half dozen or so throughout the neighborhood. Several BLM signs. I live in the People's Republic of Fairfax County, a wealthy D.C. suburb. There is not one Trump sign, but not because Trump has no support here. We are afraid, because the Commiecrats are crazy -- no one wants their car vandalized. We keep our mouth shut. But we will vote on election day, if we haven't voted already. We know, however, that our votes will be cancelled out by non-citizen & illegal alien voters recruited by the Commiecrats. We'll vote anyway.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 16, 2020 9:24 AM  

I've been wondering the last few days if they're trying to set up another popular vote "win", to attack the Electoral College.

That's part of it, but I don't think it's that long term. The idea is to win the popular vote and have the polls be way off the real outcome, then whip Democrats into a frenzy over having the election "stolen" from them.

For a color revolution to succeed, at some point it has to get some sympathy from the population. They need some sector of the population besides college Jews and blacks to think the current administration is illegitimate and deserves to fall, at least enough not to object as they continue their riots and assassination attempts.

Blogger tublecane October 16, 2020 10:17 AM  

"his contraction of the Corona virus"

Made people who don't like him happy. That's it.

I continue to be at a loss as to what this event was supposed to mean and how it was supposed to hurt him. He "downplayed" it, I guess meaning he didn't run around with his hair on fire and wear a mask everytime he's on camera like a pussycat. Then he caught something, and this means...what? Nothing, really. There's no connection between an individual catching something and government pandemic policy.

"Cascading" bad stories, they say. And all they can come up with is Trump got sick and some hearsay thing I forgot even happened until this moment. You'd think they could remember worse. We're in the midst of a cascade, after all. Cascade!

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 16, 2020 10:54 AM  

Biden decided last night was a good time to express his support for 8-year-olds changing their gender. Maybe he's trying to lose.

And RCP has Biden's "lead" in Florida dropping to within the margin of error all of a sudden. Looks like the narrowing has begun.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 16, 2020 12:27 PM  

@77 tublecane:

"his contraction of the Corona virus"

Made people who don't like him happy. That's it.

I continue to be at a loss as to what this event was supposed to mean and how it was supposed to hurt him. He "downplayed" it, I guess meaning he didn't run around with his hair on fire and wear a mask everytime he's on camera like a pussycat. Then he caught something, and this means...what?


This has been cited in some of my readings, especially about the narcissism coming across as sociopathy, specifically the "joyride" that would appear to have increased the risk his Secret Service agents would get it. That of course depends on how much time they were spending in confined quarters with him or other people with it in the outbreak, how good they are at wearing N95 masks, etc., but it was totally gratuitous, there's absolutely no way to make it look or be good as long as he was still contagious at the time, which I think he was.

Anecdotally I've read various seniors had to be talked down from switching their votes as of that time. Of course, now there's fresh meat harming the Biden crime family (as Giuliani is explicitly referring to them), and while I haven't checked in a few hours, it seems pictures of Hunter Biden having sex with minors is going to drop any time now, have even seen one cropped photo supposed to be of this. It's been hinted here and there from the people who've actually seen the material, starting with the computer repair shop owner. Link that with Joe's open creepiness in public on way too many photos and videos, and it'll harm him as well as his crackhead son.

And let me note that it seems our side has learned a thing or two from Project Veritas, letting a bit out at a time, here each dose worse than the last. First the company in Ukraine, which Joe boasted on video about protecting, then the PRC and Joe specifically demanding 50% of what Hunter earned, next...?

Blogger Geir Balderson October 16, 2020 1:21 PM  

Our County of 1.1 million folks has 17 people in the hospital with Covid. The graphics are huge with regards the 'cases'. And, the nightly 'news' leads with the gigantic testing numbers. No where do they talk about active cases. What a sham. And they still talk about how some hospitals have a PPE shortage in case the virus flares!
I will be glad when the President is reelected and he has more ahh, flexibility to further his agenda.

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