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Tuesday, January 12, 2021

Clay Travis goes after Big Tech

The head of Outkick the Coverage hammers Amazon, Google, and the rest of the corpocratic tech elite:

Amazon, a company founded to sell books and promote the free exchange of ideas more efficiently, effectively enacted the largest modern-day book burning in world history by shutting down Parler. Amazon’s message was clear: if we don’t like your political perspective, you have no right to reach an audience on the Internet.

This should terrify every American.

And how about Google here? Google’s pledge upon its founding was to organize all the information in the world and to do no harm. That was literally written into their corporate charter. And now they are selectively removing information they don’t like from the marketplace of ideas, which makes the information they cite less reliable. It’s a total refutation of their founders’ aims.

Apple may be even worse. Apple has specifically censored its own content to avoid offending China. The company literally said it would produce no content that upsets China. Now, they are selectively eliminating political opinions from the public discourse that they don’t like .

Honest question: how do Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Apple’s Tim Cook, and Google’s Sundar Pichal, the three leaders of these companies, sleep at night? The same is true of Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter’s Jack Dorsey. Are they aware of what their companies are doing, or are they just sleepwalking our country into a Chinese-like Internet state? Are they really this afraid of people saying bad things about them online? How is there no billionaire tech champion for free speech in the country?

It’s not courageous to do what everyone else does in times of tumult and tempest. It’s courageous to stand up for the marketplace of ideas when everyone is screaming for censorship. That’s true courage. Is there no one out there in Big Tech who will stand up and say, “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?” Or are they all cowards?

As a result of monopolistic collusion on the part of Big Tech, Parler can no longer be downloaded, and it may soon be removed from the Internet entirely. Again, this is a modern-day technological book-burning lit afire by three of the biggest American tech companies in the world.

Instead of the government restricting speech, you have three “different” trillion dollar companies — Amazon, Google, and Apple — colluding to reach the same exact view at the same exact time. They are using their monopolistic market clout to effectively tell Parler it can’t exist. They are using their marketplace dominance not only to destroy the marketplace of ideas but to destroy the marketplace, period.

American Big Tech has become our own Frankenstein version of China.

Those who claim these deplatformings and bannings are not censorship "because private corporations" are being disingenuous. A corporation is not an actual person, it is a government entity that is deemed "a juristic person" by the government. Corporations are not people, they have no unalienable rights, and it is long past time for the people to begin reining them in.

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84 Comments:

Blogger Hbogbinder January 12, 2021 6:28 AM  

It is also the case that corporations (big, publicly traded ones) are not owned by the management. It is arguably securities fraud for the top management of Google, Twitter, and Amazon to use the shareholders' company to pursue their own political aims,in a way that wrecks the stock price. And shareholders' right of action is direct -- no need to rely on government (whose bidding the management is doing at the moment) to take action.

Blogger A trite re-white January 12, 2021 6:35 AM  

Treason is in season.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast January 12, 2021 6:35 AM  

I don't believe in censorship but there are two phrases I want banned from everyday use and especially from political discourse.

1. How can you (they) sleep at night?

2. You (they) should be ashamed of yourselves (themselves).

It's not just that they sound trite, childish and hackneyed (and have been used to death). They do but more importantly, they simply don't nor can they ever apply to the people such phrases are generally aimed at.

Which is to say, people without morals, ethics, values and consciences.

Blogger M. ANTHONY January 12, 2021 6:39 AM  

All of the above mentioned corporations have had or do have government contracts. They were all supported or are currently supported financially by intelligence organisations. At least in the cases of Twitter, Google and Facebook, they would never be able to exist as they do and grow as much as they have without some element of government support. As for Apple, I think it is obvious that they are a protected corporation in the same way IBM and Microsoft are/were. Interestingly, Microsoft is rarely mentioned these days when we discuss Big Tech and their disproportionate impact on politics.

Blogger Iskander Magnus January 12, 2021 6:41 AM  

A few days in comments thread there was mention of a Linux mobile phone. Has anyone got experience of this? If Linux is converged, is that going to remain useful, assuming it’s technically adequate now ?

Blogger SecondComingOfBast January 12, 2021 6:41 AM  

If I was him, I'm not so sure I would use Prohibition as a sterling example of the value of the First Amendment.

If anything, it's more a perfect example of the same sort of extremist interpretation of the First Amendment that would insist lies and propaganda are acceptable examples of "free speech".

Blogger JC January 12, 2021 6:46 AM  

Something I also don't get is the rhetoric that private companies are now more powerful than the government when they are definitely taking orders. Am I wrong to think that at some point Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Pichal and Jobs (before his death) were told they either play ball or be eclipsed by a competitor? The coordination alone suggests they aren't the ones calling the shots.

Blogger rumpole5 January 12, 2021 6:47 AM  

Yes indeed. A creature of the government is an arm of the government.

Blogger Shane Bradman January 12, 2021 6:49 AM  

If corporations are legally "people", why don't they go to jail when they break the law? An asset seizure would be an appropriate penalty for their crimes.

Blogger SonyAD January 12, 2021 6:51 AM  

In my layman opinion, corporations and other legal persons breach the 'equal protection of the laws' clause of the Constitution. They don't pay the same taxes, don't face the same penalties and arguably have more rights than people in some regards. Corporations pay tax on profit, people pay tax on income.

I've wondered for years why no one attacks the legal fiction of corporations based on the 'equal protection of the laws' clause of the Constitution, just for sheets and giggles. At least make them pay income tax rather than taxes on profits, like actual people do.

Blogger SonyAD January 12, 2021 6:55 AM  

Parler should sue Amazon, Google and Apple for no fault breach of contract and for tortious interference.

Blogger Vanessa January 12, 2021 7:02 AM  

Exchange the word tech in Big Tech to brother and you get it’s real identity Big Brother.

Blogger urthshu January 12, 2021 7:04 AM  

Can it be argued that the speech, in the form of algorithms, of the platforms themselves created the distortion or extremism and are thus culpable? It's one thing to read an offering on twitter and form opinion regarding that, but twitter algorithms will always suggest related posts and rarely anything opposite which tends to create the very 'delusional and violent' people they claim to want to prevent. Granted I haven't had near enough coffee yet but maybe there's a germ of an idea there.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 12, 2021 7:06 AM  

When lolbertarians are all like "private corporations,man" I tell them that this sets the precedent to disallow minorities and LGBT likewise. Tit for tat.
Then the mask cones off. Libertarians are leftists in Guy Fawkes masks.

Blogger Dole January 12, 2021 7:12 AM  

Adams made a good point that government officials are calling for the bans, working with the platforms. Oh but it's "muh private company".

Blogger Jpc January 12, 2021 7:12 AM  

Shoddy morally bankrupt entities all of them.
And if they shut shop in the morning.
The real world would do just fine.
They really don't have anything you really need or want.
That is the amazing irony.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 12, 2021 7:21 AM  

"Free Speech" is a bad joke, an issue the CivNats get hung about their necks and then tossed overboard. Of course CivNattery being a worse version of the "Matrix" then the Matrix trilogy itself.

Whitlock left Outkick, and I knew that would happen once Travis picked up the CivNat script, CivNats being the stooge in the political theater, issue a little naughty talk or defense of naughty talk get mobbed by the worst scum in the world, allow that scum to claim the moral level of the issue over the naughty talk, surrender to the mob and promise to fight again blah, blah, blah.

Destroy those corporations and their abilities to launder our money to the evil woke communist scum.

Clay Travis welcomed Shapiro to Trashville, I lay even odds that Shapiro sticks the knife in Clay's back within 6 months.

Blogger LoneWolf January 12, 2021 7:27 AM  

"...they have no unalienable rights..."

We are fast approaching that stark day when we will see that, even though they are "unalienable," those rights will not matter as we stare at the barrel of the gun pointed at us on our own front doorstep. This will happen if President Trump (or some military contingent sympathetic to him) does not intervene in the next few days. Those of us who have been trying to warn both goys and Jews of good will of what is coming have to wonder what it will take to wake them up. I pray to God that He will intervene.

Blogger Robert Browning January 12, 2021 7:28 AM  

We should be more like China. China puts the interests of its people over the interests of big business. In America big business controls government.Jack Ma? Is he under house arrest? Is Zuckerberg?

Blogger LES January 12, 2021 7:29 AM  

Jesse Jackson led the way on how to shakedown businesses. Businesses and individuals are caving to the political left out of fear of being doxxed: framed, frozen, isolated and destroyed. The anonymous digital army is fearsome.

The federal government needs to defeat Antifa and freeze the assets of BLM. Take BLM assets to rebuild what they have destroyed. People should sue businesses that deny services for political reasons as civil rights violations. This economic warfare against freedom must stop.

Blogger Daniel January 12, 2021 7:33 AM  

Search in google "Here is the evidence"

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 12, 2021 7:38 AM  

It's a total non-shocker how many strident "anti-capitalists" are the hugest fans of corporate overlordship, as long as it's woke.

Blogger Berk January 12, 2021 7:40 AM  

Amazon/Google/Twitter/Facebook are not special apps, and weren't even entirely novel when first introduced, and can be easily cast aside for other apps, the $$$$$$$$ "value" of Facebook/Twitter is mostly smoke and mirrors, they could all be replaced (or supersceded) tomorrow with no more problem than a new click for most users. Which is probably why Parler terrified them.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling January 12, 2021 7:49 AM  

Hey, they're just creating "A 'Great Firewall of China' with American characteristics."

Blogger Jack Burton January 12, 2021 7:54 AM  

Shouldn't "This should terrify every American." actually read "This should enrage every American." Passive and fear-based language is really annoying. Maybe that's the language of BIRGers and pansies, not that of Americans.

Blogger Weak January 12, 2021 7:58 AM  

They will destroy the marketplace of ideas? The marketplace of ideas was destroyed a long time ago. Now it's a war of ideas, and Big Tech is on the other side of the battle lines - they are the enemy.

Blogger pyrrhus January 12, 2021 7:58 AM  

De-platforming in .....

Blogger WITCHOUND January 12, 2021 8:06 AM  

The ride never ends.

Blogger Steve Polson January 12, 2021 8:13 AM  

Thank you. I've been telling people (on the right) for years that limited liability corporations are creatures of the government and corporatism is socialism and they think I'm nuts. Conservatives are almost as brainwashed as "liberals," it's just a different program.

Blogger Drumlin January 12, 2021 8:16 AM  

I cancelled Amazon Prime yesterday. If you run a business, wouldn't it be in your fiduciary responsibility to get off of that platform now?

Blogger BriarRabbit January 12, 2021 8:32 AM  

There was a reason corporate charters were originally issued for a specific purpose and duration.

Doubtful we will return to that without a hard crash or other major turning point.

Which may well be nigh.

Blogger kapy53 January 12, 2021 8:48 AM  

I say turn the definition back around, if corporations are "people", then maybe it's time some of them get the death penalty.

Blogger Unknown January 12, 2021 8:50 AM  

They've gotten way too big for their britches, a wreckoning (misspelled on purpose) needs to happen.

Blogger NedFlinders January 12, 2021 9:06 AM  

" Is there no one out there in Big Tech who will stand up and say, “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?” Or are they all cowards?"

Is he a neo-con shill or actually just pathetically naive in regards to the alien ethnic motivations of the ruling elite?

Do these drooling morons actually believe that Jezos and Juckerberg are "bowing to the whims of social justice warriors"?

Blogger Charlie January 12, 2021 9:06 AM  

salesforce, or a subsidiary I should say, has cutoff the rnc from fundraising.

Blogger xavier January 12, 2021 9:07 AM  

And no doubt big tech's excesses is reviving the common good in legal and political philosophy within the Anglosphere. Very soon all policies public and private, will be evaluated via the common good and answer the question: does this benefit or harm society?

Blogger MichaelJMaier January 12, 2021 9:17 AM  

And boobs.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 12, 2021 9:20 AM  

It's not just the "juristic" vs "natural" person thing, it's a violation of what Jesus said about authority in John 13:16 — "Truly I tell you, a servant is not greater than his master, and a messenger is not greater than the one who sent him." — the entire object of pushing the notion that corporations are persons with powers above and excessive of the government which establishes them is precisely is "pursuing invariably the same Object [which] evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism".

It's the flip-side of the "we can't do anything about it, the executive/courts/legislature has to!" that each of the branches of government uses as an excuse to let the proper restrictions on their powers exist, or to establish injustice.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 12, 2021 9:23 AM  

"How is there no billionaire tech champion for free speech in the country?"

Can somebody give him the long answer? I don't think he has it figured out yet.

Blogger A.D. January 12, 2021 9:33 AM  

You mean Pure Evil.

Blogger Unknown January 12, 2021 9:39 AM  

It's like a form of solipsism, people who have morals projecting their own psychological traits into people who don't share those traits with them.

Blogger The Lab Manager January 12, 2021 9:39 AM  

It's a travesty that every company that supported BLM/Antifa and gave them money should have it's corporate board in jail and its assets liquidated. These CEO's are sacks of anti-American human waste.

Blogger Sillon January 12, 2021 9:47 AM  

Iskander Magnus wrote:A few days in comments thread there was mention of a Linux mobile phone. Has anyone got experience of this? If Linux is converged, is that going to remain useful, assuming it’s technically adequate now ?

Linux as the OS based on the Kernel of the same name is not converged.

Some people who work on the Linux ecosystem are converged, same as with any other group of humans today, it is the sad state of society.

Linux does not equate to "not having to think" or "not having to worry about" but to if "you can think and worry about" consider learning how to use it.

Linux is not controlled by a single entity or corporation (and not for lack of corporations trying trust me) it is like herding cats, some corps have influence but not enough to derail it.

Linux sadly is not for normies in the sense that it is eminently an engineering tool, but do not be discouraged to try it, you might get pleasantly surprised.

Linux phones are not ready to replace a smart-phone, trust me this is something I follow.

Due to the current climate and corporate control from Google and Apple, the interest on a phone whose OS is not in the hands of a single corporation is becoming more and more evident and interest is growing. And development is accelerating pace.

Due to how Linux is developed things do not advance linearly, sometimes two steps ahead, one to the side, five forward and two backward, then snowball. Things just take time when multiple entities all chase different ends.

This doesn't mean that a Linux phone would be 100% secure nor that it would guarantee 100% security or anonymity on-line, just like with any computer.

It would guarantee that it is yours, belongs to you and you can install on it whatever the heck you want and can hack it to your hearts content. No one can add or remove or dictate what you can install on it.

And it is the first step to be able to build your own god dawn platform.

Blogger millie78 January 12, 2021 9:53 AM  

A lot of lolberts are simply naive. For some reason, a decent number of them struggle with the idea some people really want power over other people. So, they don't grasp that you f corporations have more power than governments, the power hungry will look to take over corporations in order to wield power. It's like they think that the free market can't be abused by bad-faith participants.

Blogger Ken January 12, 2021 9:58 AM  

1. Both Zuckerberg and Dorsey spiked the ball (each in their own way), so Clay's question as to whether they "knew" answers itself.

2. "How is there no billionaire tech champion...." Sorry, Hagbard Celine is not going to surface the Leif Ericsson off Chesapeake Bay (and Doktor Jeep, heh -- well said). Psalm 146.

Blogger NedFlinders January 12, 2021 10:05 AM  

Let's pretend that these organisations weren't created by the deep state to begin with, which they most assuredly were.

The idea that any of this is an expression of the free market is bad comedy. Juckerberg tells politician x, y and z "turn a blind eye or we'll bury you". Jezos donates 100 million to various other politicians and they close down small businesses for a year over the flu, gifting their market share to the Amazon Goblin in charge.

And if you boycott them then the government simply hands them a billion dollars in stimulus money, because "muh markets are a matter of national security".

There is no such thing as a "free market". Not anywhere. Ever. It exists alongside of unicorns and Biden voters.

If you are stupid enough to commit to maintaining a "free market" then you are putting on blinders and waiting to be punched in the back of the head.

Control or be controlled. Enforce or be enforced upon. Dominate or be dominated.

Libertarianism is for children and cowards. It does not exist in the natural order and it does not exist in God's patriarchal order either, but sadly these facts cannot penetrate the skulls of many well-indoctrinated boomers who forever carp and whine how "if mechanism X was simply invoked this would all be over."

"Amazon/Google/Twitter/Facebook are not special apps, and weren't even entirely novel when first introduced, and can be easily cast aside for other apps, the $$$$$$$$ "value" of Facebook/Twitter is mostly smoke and mirrors, they could all be replaced (or supersceded) tomorrow with no more problem than a new click for most users. Which is probably why Parler terrified them."

No. They can't. Because the deep state will not allow it. Are you not even paying attention? They will literally kill you and everyone you ever met before they allow you to pry the narrative from their grip. They are not terrified of Parler. They destroyed it over the course of a lazy weekend. You seem to think that because they got rid of it they were afraid of it. They are not, any more than I am afraid of the mold in my shower which I routinely expunge from existence.

There is only one thing they are afraid of, and it's not a bunch of libertarian conservacucks whining on the internet. If anything, them getting rid of every digital support/therapy/gossip group on the internet for the Right is a welcome development and perhaps a horrible miscalculation on their behalf.

I pray for the day that not a single Right leaning soul can pick up a digital device without it being instantly bricked.

Blogger Gettimothy January 12, 2021 10:12 AM  

"Parler should sue Amazon, Google and Apple for no fault breach of contract and for tortious interference."


This is silly; we are not living in a civizized state, we are in a war with the will to power crowd.

It is fascinating that the lawyers, preachers and academics are the last to grasp basic reality.

Heck, even Tom "civ-nat" Kratman now sees it. ( search Bracken, Corriera, zeroguv to observe the change in wartime posture )

Blogger Crush Limbraw January 12, 2021 10:20 AM  

"Corporations are not people, they have no unalienable rights, and it is long past time for the people to begin reining them in." - Vox Day.
“The preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.” - Eric Zuesse.
Posted this in DaLimbraw Library almost 2 years ago - https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/04/who-rules-us-documented-by-eric-zuesse.html?m=0 - an actual study proving we pay our own way for OUR self-destruction.
Anyone who wants to dig deeper - https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/10/who-rules-us-does-anyone-care-because.html?m=0 - and the next 7-8 days will show whether we can begin to git'er back!

Blogger Tom Bombadil January 12, 2021 10:24 AM  

Corporations are soulless unliving entities that wield great power, can "live" on indefinitely, further their own interests (which is mindless self-perpetuation), and control large numbers of people.

I'd also add that these tech companies are not separate from the government. Execs move in and out of government positions. They work with government officials, and as pointed out their existence is based on legal structures created by the government.

Blogger Dr Caveman January 12, 2021 10:29 AM  

Looks like all the big tech companies helping China construct it's surveillance and suppression architecture have decided to start implementing it in the US as well

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 12, 2021 10:32 AM  

These moves by not only Big Tech but also any entity to which you attach the prefix 'Big' do have a very strange silver lining. How long have you been urging people to get off those damned social media platforms, for example? How long have you been telling people that the Big Banks are an Unholy Cabal? As is Big Media? How long have you been running around in the wilderness like John the Baptist telling people of these things?

Well they've just done a lot of work for you and proved it in spades to everybody who has eyes. For example I've been telling friends and family to get off Big Tech social media for so long I can't remember, with scant success. Well what do you know now all these people are deplatforming themselves. This not to celebrate ye ole 'I told ya so' in any way, but to revel in the glory that finally people are seeing what can't be unseen for themselves!

Blogger JWM in SD January 12, 2021 10:55 AM  

Precisely. It seems somehow the corps don't have unalienable rights but have unlimited power instead so they don't need the rights.

Blogger Crew January 12, 2021 11:05 AM  

And yet, the worthless talking heads on TV are pushing the line that Muh First Amendment is not your refuge against big tech as if that is the only way to understand this issue.

It's almost like they are in the pay of big tech and the Deep State.

Blogger FALPhil January 12, 2021 11:11 AM  

Robert Browning wrote:We should be more like China. China puts the interests of its people over the interests of big business. In America big business controls government.Jack Ma? Is he under house arrest? Is Zuckerberg?

That is a pretty perverse way of interpreting what goes on in China, and by China, I mean Red China, not including Taiwan.

The largest business in China is a mafia-style organization called Zhōngguó Gòngchǎndǎng or, in English, the Communist Party of China (CCP). The government never, ever puts the interests of the people over the CCP. If the interests of the people happen to coincide with the interests of CCP, that is merely icing on the cake. The only reason that the Chinese government takes down companies, or any other individual or organization, is because their goals and objectives are at odds with the CCP's goals and objectives.

It appears that the DNC is falling in line with this philosophy too.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 12, 2021 11:22 AM  

JC wrote:Something I also don't get is the rhetoric that private companies are now more powerful than the government when they are definitely taking orders.
It's all part of the blame-shifting and civil "covert ops", as rumpole5 wrote:Yes indeed. A creature of the government is an arm of the government.
These corporations are doing the things government is forbidden to do, with a wink and nod from government, even while government can destroy them instantly — by revoking the charter/incorporation — or slowly (probably for public theater) using anti-trust or RICO.

Shane Bradman wrote:If corporations are legally "people", why don't they go to jail when they break the law?
Because the point of these big corporations is precisely to break the law.
Do you remember the Wells Fargo organized identity theft ring a few years ago? Do you remember the "huge fines"?... except if you divided the number of incidents by the fines you got something like $120/incident, when the maximum (if you were a public citizen) was $10k. (The largest owner of Wells Fargo? Warren Buffet, apparently.)

These are all interconnected.
Look at Dominion: systems obviously designed to facilitate election fraud. The political elites have been "just barely" 'winning' their seats for how many years now? How pervasive was the Clinton Foundation's pay-for-play and influence peddling? — I've come to the conclusion that a vigorous, honest RICO prosecution on any of a dozen companies [and/or perhaps twenty "NGOs"] would unravel whole sectors of the economy AND consume a rather large portion of government.

Jack Burton wrote:Shouldn't "This should terrify every American." actually read "This should enrage every American." Passive and fear-based language is really annoying. Maybe that's the language of BIRGers and pansies, not that of Americans.
You're correct.
This is real-time narrative reframing — just like how a bunch of patriots "invading" capitol hill to protest were re-framed as rioters and now domestic terrorists, they seek to make these elicit paralyzation/fear rather than action/anger.
If this is a trap, an ambush for those who would resist tyranny, then they HAVE to control the movement, they have to control the flow, and they have to control the story.

Unknown wrote:They've gotten way too big for their britches, a wreckoning (misspelled on purpose) needs to happen.
Agreed.
The funny thing is it would be absurdly easy to do so, had we people in power and authority who were concerned with doing justly.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2021 11:32 AM  

Iskander Magnus wrote:A few days in comments thread there was mention of a Linux mobile phone. Has anyone got experience of this?
No experience, but from my recent research the Librim phone is usable as a phone, Pinephone is currently not usable as a phone per the Pine tech support.
Iskander Magnus wrote:If Linux is converged, is that going to remain useful, assuming it’s technically adequate now ?
Linux may fail, but groups who want to actually compute rather than virtue signal will fork it and the forks will remain useful.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 12, 2021 11:33 AM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:I don't think he has it figured out yet.

He hasn't figured out much at all. He
s just flailing around, thinking there's still a civilized society to heed his calls and answer his questions. But he has lots of company, so there's that.

Blogger d January 12, 2021 11:34 AM  

I wasn't aware that "China" insists that Bruce Jenner is a woman and that it blacklists anyone who says otherwise.

I wasn't aware that "China" corporations fly the pederasts' rainbow flag.

There is always a tell. Travis may be a "free speech" absolutist, but is he a Native of Christendom Absolutist? The tell suggests not.

That "China" is the same China that is growing web services companies that are nowhere near as restrictive as the ones run by Westerners.

That "China" is the same China that is working its way out from the grasp of the genocidal judeo-atheist cartel and its Federal Reserve Bank.

"China" is not the problem.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2021 11:42 AM  

LoneWolf wrote:We are fast approaching that stark day when we will see that, even though they are "unalienable," those rights will not matter as we stare at the barrel of the gun pointed at us on our own front doorstep.
You only have the rights you will kill and die for. If you are law abiding, you have no rights, only the privileges the law allows.

Blogger Unknown January 12, 2021 11:44 AM  

Oy vey, levels of goyim knowing unacceptable.

https://www.newsweek.com/hurricane-victims-must-support-israel-get-relief-texas-city-demands-689407

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2021 11:45 AM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:"How is there no billionaire tech champion for free speech in the country?"

Can somebody give him the long answer? I don't think he has it figured out yet.

Billionaires are billionaires because they have taken the ticket, because they have been given fake success and piles of counterfeit money, because they reliably serve our enemies who control our government and our money supply.

Whattaya think, Doc? Long enough?

Blogger Dan Karelian January 12, 2021 11:50 AM  

In UK law the definition of an actual person isn't exactly a living man, whether natural or legal:

Interpretation Act 1978 Schedule 1:
“Person” includes a body of persons corporate or unincorporate. [1889]
Interpretation Act 1889 Section 19:
In this Act and in every Act passed after the commencement of this Act the expression "person" shall, unless the contrary intention appears, include any body of persons corporate or unincorporate.

The following are natural persons

-sole proprietors
-partnerships
-unincorporated associations.
A sole proprietor is a natural person and it is the sole proprietor who is the ‘person’.
In the case of partnerships and associations, it is the sum of the members that is the ‘person’.


The problem with these definitions is that the definentia includes the definiendum.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2021 11:51 AM  

Sillon wrote:Linux is not controlled by a single entity or corporation ... some corps have influence but not enough to derail it.
What ever happened to init? I liked init.
Sillon wrote:Linux phones are not ready to replace a smart-phone, trust me this is something I follow.
I'm edging toward a Librem - does it actually do calls and texts reliably? Can it run a browser? Does the camera work? Those last two aren't essential for me...

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2021 11:52 AM  

millie78 wrote:For some reason, a decent number of them struggle with the idea some people really want power over other people.
Everybody projects. If you are a naive person who wants to be left alone, it is natural to assume that everyone else is the same way.

Blogger eclecticme January 12, 2021 11:52 AM  

"Iskander Magnus wrote:
A few days in comments thread there was mention of a Linux mobile phone. Has anyone got experience of this?"
Dunno but ...
There are videos on how to de google an android phone
https://youtu.be/UXLo15l2i4c

Also, Antifa demands that Powells books remove new book on Antifa by Andy Ngo.
https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa-activists-force-evacutation-of-portland-bookstore-carrying-andy-ngos-book-online

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 12, 2021 11:57 AM  

How does Mark Zuckerberg sleep at night?

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

Blogger SecondComingOfBast January 12, 2021 12:18 PM  

One of my biggest joys in life is trolling Libertarians on Reddit.

Blogger Schatzi January 12, 2021 12:20 PM  

My parents sacrificed much to escape then communist Czechoslovakia. My parent’s escape reads like a movie. I will forever be grateful for the life I have because of their courage! Slovakia-Germany-USA has been our road in life. Americans are very ethnocentric and the latest fluorided and soyafied nation has NO clue about the evils of socialism and communism. I enjoy reading Vox’s blog and I’m glad to have his voice amongst a sea of clueless sycophants. I found the bear clan and Vox by accident, and I’m grateful these communities exist. The pen is mightier than the sword, and SDL wields a mean pen! Thank you Vox for being a positive beacon amongst the myriad of babblers and fear porn disseminators that exist online today.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 12, 2021 12:39 PM  

Android runs the Linux kernel. iOS runs the BSD kernel. There's no magic in having a 'Linux' phone per se - you already sort of have one. There is or was an Ubuntu Phone, and this was unveiled many years ago and flopped. You might still be able to set one up, but then you'd be a very odd duck.

Windows put out Windows Phone and Blackberry put out BB10 with a lot of big money marketing and a serious effort to gain traction in the space. Microsoft reps were calling even me up by surprise totally out of the blue, begging me to design apps for Windows Phone, they have never called me before or since. They couldn't get anybody to develop for the platform. The Blackberry case was tragic because it broke Blackberry, and BB10 was a very, very good OS. Again they could not get anybody to develop for it. They would send out teams to companies to demonstrate how easy it was to support BB10 -- I remember when one of those teams went to a big company and fully ported their app to BB10 in just two hours. The app performed better on BB10 than it did on Android and iOS, too. That company's developers were amazed -- but management declined to 'support' BB10. And this kept happening.

I suspect very much that we are stuck with Android and iOS because it has been decided that we will be stuck with Android and iOS. You will never convince me that this Big Tech space isn't coordinated, organized and dictated.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast January 12, 2021 12:50 PM  

It's probably aimed more at the speaker's audience than the actual subject but it still sounds stupid. Saying things like that about some of these people is, to me at least, not much different than saying Hitler or Stalin should have been ashamed of themselves. Now, doesn't that sound idiotic? And yes, I honestly do put most Globalists on that level.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling January 12, 2021 12:52 PM  

@5 Iskander Magnus:

A few days in comments thread there was mention of a Linux mobile phone. Has anyone got experience of this? If Linux is converged, is that going to remain useful, assuming it’s technically adequate now?

It's the base operating system for Android smartphones, so it's currently plenty capable.

@43 Sillon:

Iskander Magnus wrote: [The above.]

Linux as the OS based on the Kernel of the same name is not converged.

Some people who work on the Linux ecosystem are converged....


Given that that includes the person most responsible for maintaining the quality and thus usability of Linux, it amounts to the same thing. But these things are not set in stone, GitLab was launched the same year in which GitHub started getting converged, yet GitHub has remained technically a lot more competent than GitLab. So we're going to have to see when and how Linux starts becoming trash. And check out alternatives, I prefer OpenBSD, but cannot at this time move to it due to a lot of software I depend on only being supported by Linux if there's an alternative to Windows.

@23 Berk

Amazon/Google/Twitter/Facebook are not special apps, and weren't even entirely novel when first introduced, and can be easily cast aside for other apps, the $$$$$$$$ "value" of Facebook/Twitter is mostly smoke and mirrors, they could all be replaced (or supersceded) tomorrow with no more problem than a new click for most users. Which is probably why Parler terrified them.

Twitter and Facebook have a great deal of value in "network effects," that people and institutions like units of your local government you want new from or to interact with are also on those platforms. Thus Parler became a threat to the totalitarian tech Left (TTL) when those two companies started wholesale flushing of their Right of Mao "customers" plus of course Trump, and Parler's use of a cloud platform allowed it to smoothly as far as I know accommodate a huge influx of new accounts. "Terrified" of what it might become, possibly, and that could have happened soon.

@62. Ominous Cowherd:

Sillon wrote:
Linux is not controlled by a single entity or corporation ... some corps have influence but not enough to derail it.

What ever happened to init? I liked init.


Red Hat, now thankfully swallowed by IBM, was able to apply pressure to turn Linux above the operating system into something ever more like Windows (key word "systemd"). That has resulted in a lot of people investigating and moving to alternatives even before Linus the programmer waved the white flag. IBM is almost certainly too stupid to be able to retain this influence as it Bluewashes Red Hat, unless somehow the Red Hat executives are better at playing the IBM internal politics game. For now, see the end of CentOS as such.

Blogger DonReynolds January 12, 2021 12:54 PM  

For all of those who insist that the Big Tech are simply private firms that can do as they please, even in collusion with each other against an outside party, I gently remind them that the Federal government has a considerable body of law devoted to ANTI-TRUST, with a number of Supreme Court decisions to back it up. Yes, there are good reasons to oppose combinations of private firms determined to stifle competition and restrict entry to the marketplace. The phrase is "conspiracy and collusion"... and it is a crime. Legally, they are little different from Land Pirates, Smugglers, and Brigands.

If Big Tech wants to preserve their monopoly power, they should ask to become a Public Utility. That would shave down their trendy interest in New Age politics. Some employees would resent giving up their hobby, which is the only way I can describe when nerds want revenge, and they may need to work elsewhere. But as a "private firm" Big Tech needs to practice saying ANTI-TRUST and RICO. They also need to understand that foreign relations and espionage are only at the direction of the US State Department, the FBI, and the CIA. Yes, WE even have laws to that effect.

Blogger LoneWolf January 12, 2021 12:54 PM  

@58 Ominous Cowherd: "You only have the rights you will kill and die for. If you are law abiding, you have no rights, only the privileges the law allows."

That's the reality we face now. It turns out that all the bullshit we were taught in school about "We The People" and "unalienable rights" was mythology.

Blogger Colonel Blimp January 12, 2021 12:57 PM  

Schatzi, that story sounds amazing. Anyone else notice that around the mid 90s they stop making "escape from xyz communistic hellhole period piece"?? There were so many good ones. And it can't all be attributable to fall of ussr. This last 30 years was just a reset for the "true" implementation of communism worldwide. All they were missing was rabid gays, soy boy racial equalists, and the type of conservationist that will fly to Mauritius for a global warming conference on her private jet.

Escaping this liberal singularity will take a mighty king indeed.

Blogger LoneWolf January 12, 2021 12:58 PM  

Texas Governor Greg Abbott is a disgusting shabbas goy for signing the you-must-never-boycott-or-even-criticize-Israel law last may. Sheesh!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2021 1:06 PM  

The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey wrote:The Blackberry case was tragic because it broke Blackberry, and BB10 was a very, very good OS. Again they could not get anybody to develop for it. They would send out teams to companies to demonstrate how easy it was to support BB10 -- I remember when one of those teams went to a big company and fully ported their app to BB10 in just two hours. The app performed better on BB10 than it did on Android and iOS, too. That company's developers were amazed -- but management declined to 'support' BB10. And this kept happening
Still using BB10, and still very happy with it. That QNX kernel has so much potential, it's a pity it's not being used in phones.

Blogger American Kiwi Bear January 12, 2021 1:22 PM  

Owen states that he is literally one degree of separation removed from some of these top level billionaires (at least one of them) and his contact that knows them directly has told him that they are all literally scared nearly to death of us normal people and mostly don't even leave their (fortress like, no doubt) houses. So, they are that desperate to destroy us just so they think they will be able to rest easier. Which, even if they succeeded, they won;t be able to do as their factions ultimately turn on each other and they are tormented by the evil with which they have aligned themselves and then finally ushered into their special place in hell/eternal isolation from God when that time comes.

In summary: Gammas that have literally taken the ticket from the evil one himself.

Blogger Tanjil Bren January 12, 2021 1:31 PM  

"Corporations are not people, they have no unalienable rights, and it is long past time for the people to begin reining them in."

Thank you.

Yet worse still, these are vast, monopolistic entities and they should be utterly smashed for that reason alone.

Blogger mrpinks January 12, 2021 3:53 PM  

This is the Lesbian Wedding Cake all over again: The baker was told to "bake the damn cake" and you dont get to choose your clients based on morality.
This is the exact opposite...
Like Vox says, its free speech to destroy your values and nothing else.

Blogger PKC January 12, 2021 4:16 PM  

I would advise Clay Travis not to entertain any illusions that Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Bezos, Cook and Pichal have a working conscience. These are geeks of the megalamaniac lunatic fringe. They lack a moral core. While raking in billions with no check on their greedy deeds, these madmen get a perverted thrill trampling on the human rights of those with opposing views because they're seething with spite. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER place yourself into the contolling clutches of these creatures.

Blogger eclecticme January 12, 2021 5:02 PM  

Some good points from the Duran. Some countries ban twitter because it has been used to organize violence within their countries. Several examples. Also, leaders fear that twitter could ban them someday (after they banned Trump) so maybe stop twitter before it gets too big in their country and obtains power over them.

Erdowan recently banned whatsapp for this reason and will develop their own version for Turkey. Merkel and Macron don't mind their own govt censoring on line speech but turning that power over to a private US company REALLY bothers them as they might be banned next.

In short, Dorsey just shot himself in the foot outside the US.
https://youtu.be/vtg-C3faljo

#Twitter #Navalny #Merkel
Dorsey breaks World Wide Web. Merkel, Macron & Navalny speak out
14,948 views•Jan 12, 2021
The Duran
138K subscribers

Blogger eclecticme January 12, 2021 5:15 PM  

"77. American Kiwi BearJanuary 12, 2021 1:22 PM
Owen states that he is literally one degree of separation removed from some of these top level billionaires (at least one of them) and his contact that knows them directly has told him that they are all literally scared nearly to death of us normal people and mostly don't even leave their (fortress like, no doubt) houses."

Thoughts that come to mind are: dc sniper john allen muhammad; brevik, et al. I mean the damage that one person can do not that I am advocating that. If the govt investigates the various election irregularities and some people go to prison that will take some pressure off the current anger even if it shows the election was stolen. If they just cover up that will not help. If they prosecute protesters under felony murder after letting BLM walk all summer things will get much worse.

"When the law becomes a ruse, lawlessness becomes legitimate." -unknown

Blogger Tanjil Bren January 12, 2021 5:26 PM  

"...Turning that power over to a private US company REALLY bothers them as they might be banned next..."

Same thing (heavy regulation) is about to happen here in Aus'.

Moron leftists always overreach.

(And please, for pity's sake, stop calling them 'progressives' or 'liberals'; they are neither.)

Blogger MordWa January 12, 2021 11:31 PM  

Well played, Sir. Nice callback.

(For those who don’t get it, https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/cnn-clay-travis-first-amendment-boobs.html )

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