Wednesday, August 24, 2005

Why don't women have to vote?

Thoughts From Kansas considers the matter beyond debate:

Reuel Marc Gerecht, Administration flunky On Meet the Press via Atrios: In 1900, women did not have the right to vote. "If Iraqis could develop a democracy that resembled America in the 1900s, I think we'd all be thrilled. I mean, women's social rights are not critical to the evolution of democracy."

Conservative jackass Vox Day has a habit of attacking women's suffrage as the root of all evil, claiming that: "Far too many women are fascists at heart" (Infinite thanks to Orac for linking to that execrable piece so that I don't have to.)

...Why don't Republicans all agree that women have to be allowed to vote?

1. There is no evidence that women voting has been a positive development in any nation in the world. Should someone like to submit some for once, I'd be happy to examine it. I find it telling that no supporter of women's suffrage has yet been able to respond with anything but naked and unsupportable assertions.

2. There is no correlation between voting and the defense of life, liberty and property rights. The two countries which top the Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom, Hong Kong and Singapore, have severe restrictions on voting and political representation. In Hong Kong, only one-third of the legislative council is elected. In Singapore, voting is considered a privilege, not a right. Meanwhile, voting is permitted and even required in most of the countries that make up the bottom ten, including Cuba and Zimbabwe.

3. History shows that the women's vote is inextricably tied to a substantive loss of individual freedom. Only 22 years after women received the right to vote in Switzerland, that country passed an amendment to its constitution giving the federal government the right to pass legislation relating to firearms. Within four years, legislation had passed requiring permits for weapons purchases, permits for bearing arms in public and banning handguns, in direct contradiction of its centuries-old militia tradition, and now the militia system itself is under attack by the SDP, the Swiss Socialist Party.

4. The opponents of women's suffrage have been proven correct with regards to their predictions of a) increased divorce, b) increased abortion, c) sexual promiscuity, d) increased paganism.

5. John Lott has demonstrated a strong correlative link between women's suffrage and increased per capita state expenditures. The average increase in voter turnouts of 26 and 33 percent that occurred 25 and 45 years after the enactment of women's suffrage in a US state mirror the 24 and 31 percent increases in state spending over the same periods of time. He also concluded: "The two consistent results were: allowing female suffrage resulted in a more liberal tilt in congressional voting for both houses, and the extent of that shift was mirrored by the increase in turnout due to female suffrage. The effects are quite large."

So, perhaps Thoughts From Kansas would do well to consider a more salient question, namely, why would any Republican, or any non-Republican like myself, who opposes more government spending, higher taxation, more divorce, more single-parent households, more social pathologies and more government control over individual behavior, agree that women have to be allowed to vote?

Perhaps not all women are fascists at heart, but without their votes, few fascists would ever be elected.


Anonymous Toby Temple May 20, 2014 8:26 AM  


Is Switzerland losing its militia system? I pray they do not and literally put an end to the stupidity of the SDP.

Do the Swiss people really want the Nordic model to ruin their nation?

Blogger Unknown April 08, 2015 7:04 PM  

Can you please point to correlative studies showing the impact of males on a female led system?
Maybe you can demonstrate how a female led system has impacted human culture to its detriment. I mean, it's not like the masculine majority financial system has been so terrible for... Oh, it has. Dude, why don't you take your pecker out of the equation, and start seeing other human beings.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2015 10:56 PM  

Hahahahahaha, Ha, Ha,,, Haha,,, oh my god...

Anonymous Anonymous April 09, 2015 10:55 AM  

Have you never heard of "correlation does not equal causation"?

Blogger Unknown April 09, 2015 1:13 PM  

Dear Mr gun-bearing American
Would you be so kind as to answer this simple question to me, since from my simple female brain, I could't quite grasp the full meaning of your text.
What is so bad about divorce, abortion, sexual promiscuity and paganism? It's not like divorce was invented when women got the right to vote. If you had your history you'd know that Roman, Greek and Norse cultures had the possibility of divorce and those where great empires built.
The fact that now abortion is somewhat legal only makes it possible to monitor and make safer a procedure that has been practiced for as long as the human has been human and is dangerous and traumatic. I don't really see how a woman making with her body what she chooses affects you in any way, but there's that. Sexual promiscuity..... come on, man!
It's not like anyone forces you to be sexually promiscuous. I am sure you are a rightful man that hasn't seen the likes of a "woman of loose morals", but it's not like those were created by the right to vote either , or it wouldn't be called the oldest of all professions. And if whores exist, then there's sexual promiscuity. So.... There's that. And as for paganism, you might want to blame the internet and the information for that. I am sure this is news to you, but more information gives you more choices and more choices mean you can - I don't know- question the existence of one Holy Creature that created it all.
Maybe, you should travel, speak to women and get your head out of your derriere before correlating stuff.
Have a good day, and may the gods walk with you

Blogger Long Ben Avery April 13, 2015 10:53 PM  

TWAT! Not one of my best contributions to a debate but it's late and I think it succinctly puts the way I feel about the above.

Blogger capnhammer April 18, 2015 12:23 AM  

Laughed out loud at "Only 22 years after women received the right to vote in Switzerland..." Oh, yes, my friend, STRONG causal link there. I mean, the U.S. entered World War II only 21 years after the 19th Amendment was passed, so clearly the latter caused the former. Makes sense

Anonymous John Doe May 10, 2015 6:14 PM  

Funny how the article is from 2005 yet the comments from 2015, must be all those women votes clogging up the internets.

Blogger Sojourner January 12, 2016 3:23 PM  

All these fools coming in here as if they believe we haven't seen all their crap before. All they end up doing is proving the point. And lecturing Vox on history. Oh my sides.

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