Saturday, April 07, 2012

Still INTJ

Some of the folks at Susan Walsh's appear to have discovered Meyers-Briggs for the first time. So, I took the test given at the site they've been using and the result wasn't exactly the biggest surprise.

67 Introverted
88 Intuitive
62 Thinking
78 Judging

However, this wasn't enough to prevent Ender from beating me at chess for the first time. His knight held the center, he first nabbed one of my rooks when I got a little careless in setting up an exchange of bishops, then managed to use his one-rook advantage to queen a pawn while holding off my desperate attempt to do the same. My rook was too occupied defending my own advancing pawn to make an attempt on his castled king, so three moves later, it was checkmate.



Anonymous Outlaw X April 07, 2012 2:08 PM  

Tunnel vision is always checkmate. Look at the friking world, not to change the subject.

Anonymous bw April 07, 2012 2:09 PM  

Good for John Conner...I mean, "Ender".

Anonymous alexamenos April 07, 2012 2:33 PM  

i 78
n 50
t 25
p 11

Seems like I used to score closer to 99% I, stronger on the T, and more J than the P. For business reasons I've had to deal with other human beings far more than I care to, so I wonder if that's made me a little more touchy feely??? I think I'm becoming downright sociable.

Anonymous bw April 07, 2012 2:47 PM  

Introverted 89
Intuitive 62
Thinking 38
Perceiving 67

I perceive that I lack the discipline, concentration, and orderliness the description says I should have. Thinking about it further - which apparently I cannot do - it appears I may be all f*cked up.

Anonymous Randall April 07, 2012 2:50 PM  

89 Introverted
62 Intuitive
75 Thinking
67 Judging

No surprises here.

Anonymous PGS April 07, 2012 2:54 PM  

INTJ, once again. Still not strong on the "J" - I have scored "P" before:

Introverted 89
Intuitive 88
Thinking 12
Judging 1

Blogger Giraffe April 07, 2012 3:02 PM  


Anonymous Clay April 07, 2012 3:42 PM  

Your Type is
Introverted Sensing Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
56 1 19 39

My Momma always told me I had no sense!

Anonymous Clay April 07, 2012 3:49 PM  

How can a floppy-haired/Duran Duran, Flock Of Seagulls boy be "introverted"?

Anonymous lowkey April 07, 2012 4:05 PM  

INTJ here too.

78 introverted
25 intuitive
75 thinking
22 judging

Anonymous Stingray April 07, 2012 4:17 PM  

ISTJ. I college I seem to remember being INFP.

Anonymous Gapeseed April 07, 2012 4:27 PM  

I 44
N 62
F 25
P 44

Probably very unusual for this crowd.

Anonymous Curlytop April 07, 2012 4:32 PM  

I- 44
N- 56
T- 1
J- 78
Last time I took the test was for a discipleship class at the end of my high school years. Maturity has changed me from an ENFJ. Biggest shift was in my I/E score because I remember being a solid Extravert. I remember my T/F was EXTREMELY close then and now. Still VERY much a J, so some things never change.

Anonymous Curlytop April 07, 2012 4:34 PM  

OH Stingray, you're a rarity according to those well-versed in Myers-Briggs. ;-) My mother's also an ISTJ.

Blogger Sleepy April 07, 2012 4:39 PM  

INFP. I'd be interested in a Game post that dealt with men cursed to be one of the "F"-ups.

Anonymous Wendy April 07, 2012 4:41 PM  

I - 56
N - 25
T - 50
J - 56

I guess that makes me a moderate INTJ.

And congrats to Ender on the win.

Anonymous Stingray April 07, 2012 4:44 PM  

OH Stingray, you're a rarity according to those well-versed in Myers-Briggs. ;-) My mother's also an ISTJ.

Really? I thought it was INTJ that was so rare, however, there are a LOT here and over the manosphere. I assumed it was because that personality type was simply more drawn to this part of the web.

Anonymous Allabaster April 07, 2012 5:17 PM  

INTJ as always, Vox do you believe there is a correlation between intj and being a sigma or omega male? They both seem to be quite rare.

Anonymous Allabaster April 07, 2012 5:18 PM  

INTJ as always, Vox do you believe there is a correlation between intj and being a sigma or omega male? They both seem to be quite rare.

Anonymous Curlytop April 07, 2012 5:26 PM  

Stingray: "Really? I thought it was INTJ that was so rare, however, there are a LOT here and over the manosphere. I assumed it was because that personality type was simply more drawn to this part of the web."

Yep. It's all in the percentages. Extraverts compose 75% of the general population, etc.

ISTJs appear in about less than 1% of pop. INTJ may not be much higher? Anyone who scores 1-5 in any area could flip given their circumstances as it means that they are not solid in that category. I could take the test again in a week and be a INFJ.

Telling me you're an ISTJ reveals volumes. My mother's job for the longest time was a tax specialist for a the corporate office of a national restaurant chain. Her phone never rang obviously and it's not like people beat down a path to talk to the chick in the cubicle dealing with taxes. ;-) She learned social norms dealing with women the HARD way needless to say. Living in the south didn't help her predicament either.

Oh and back to the topic of chess...

Congrats to Ender! Kid's probably floating over the achievement.

Anonymous Pablo April 07, 2012 5:31 PM  

Whatever that means.
Seems to me I was an ESTJ when I took this test 15 years ago.

Blogger Clint April 07, 2012 5:33 PM  

ENFP. 100% E, but the others were in the high 30s or so.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick April 07, 2012 5:38 PM  

E - 39
S - 25
T - 1
J - 11

You should take a poll for kicks.

Anonymous Rusty Shackleford April 07, 2012 5:39 PM  

ENTJ, with T and J only slightly expressed.

Pablo, maybe that's just common among ENTJs? We're supposed to be "fieldmarshals"... I think this test is meant to be given by HR folks to make people feel good about their non-abilities.

Anonymous Mr. B.A.D. April 07, 2012 6:02 PM  

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

89 25 25 89

I know I think more than this, but my thoughts are usually around 2 or 3 specif arenas, and everythi8ng else gets the auto pilot.

Anonymous philip April 07, 2012 6:17 PM  


Anonymous HongKongCharlie April 07, 2012 6:22 PM  

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
78 62 75 22

Not much changed from last time.


Anonymous Clay April 07, 2012 6:49 PM  

I swear, you people have put SO many acronyms to describe whether or not people are Fuck*d up or not, I can't really tell or not, anymore....who is; or, who isn't.

Blogger JDC April 07, 2012 7:13 PM  

INTJ - 67-25-25-67

I'm a big introvert and big surprise here.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2012 7:43 PM  

Go Ender!!!



Anonymous Pablo April 07, 2012 7:50 PM  

Duly noted, sir.

Anonymous Clay April 07, 2012 7:58 PM  


Anonymous zen0 April 07, 2012 8:14 PM  

he first nabbed one of my rooks when I got a little careless in setting up an exchange of bishops, then managed to use his one-rook advantage to queen a pawn while holding off my desperate attempt to do the same

If you were in a tournament, you would have resigned at once, if there was no partially offsetting loss of material.

Anonymous Rantor April 07, 2012 8:20 PM  

ENFJ all moderately so. Years ago my wife and I took Meyers Briggs and tested out as opposites. The opposites attract rule has kept us together for almost 25 years.

Anonymous zen0 April 07, 2012 8:26 PM  

Vox...there are systems for evaluating material in chess. Here is one that is very specific.

Hans Berliner's system

World Correspondence Chess Champion Hans Berliner gives the following valuations, based on experience and computer experiments:

pawn = 1
knight = 3.2
bishop = 3.33
rook = 5.1
queen = 8.8

There are adjustments for the rank and file of a pawn and adjustments for the pieces depending on how open or closed the position is. Bishops, rooks, and queens gain up to 10 percent more value in open positions and lose up to 20 percent in closed positions. Knights gain up to 50 percent in closed positions and lose up to 30 percent in the corners and edges of the board. The value of a good bishop may be at least 10 percent higher than that of a bad bishop (Berliner 1999:14–18)

This is how computer chess makes move choices.

Anonymous catahoula April 07, 2012 8:27 PM  

I 67
N 19
T 75
J 89

Female, still INTJ

Anonymous debbs aka zoegirl April 07, 2012 8:45 PM  

Being involved intimately with your children and encouraging them to be the best that they can be is so gratifying. It's too bad that many parents are too busy doing all those unimportant things that they miss it.

I(89),N(50),T(62),P(44) as usual, though I've never tested this extroverted!

Anonymous The CronoLink April 07, 2012 8:55 PM  

I 89
F 25
P 25

Anonymous David Of One April 07, 2012 9:24 PM  

I 22
N 75
T 1 - Really?
J 56

According to these results, there's no practical sense of my thinking much about the results.

Anonymous Stingray April 07, 2012 9:24 PM  


I don't know. The website linked to on Susan's blog had ISTJ as 17% of the population. Though, if you've studied the Meyers-Briggs I'll take your word for it. Does this mean I get to be a special snowflake? Whoo hoo!! ; )

Anonymous Soga April 07, 2012 9:53 PM  

INTJ, baby!

Seems like a lot of us are INTJ, which makes sense, provided the sorts of things we discuss every day on this blog.

Anonymous jay c April 07, 2012 10:01 PM  

INTJ also. (Didn't take the test. I've done it a few times before. )

I am beginning to think the meyers briggs sorter is b.s.. Can we really be that cliqueish?

Anonymous Comrade V April 07, 2012 10:10 PM  

I 90
N 38
T 81
P 11
Pretty much comports with the other MBTI tests I have taken, and my own life experiences. There's actually a separate INTP forum somewhere out there in the internet, though the perceiving part of my personality means that I CBF going to it.

Anonymous Sensei April 07, 2012 10:22 PM  

I 67
N 62
T 62
P 11

The numbers vary slightly each time, but I'm always INTP, light on the P.
(unless I have too much coffee, which turns me into an ISTP)

Seeing how many INTJ's we've got, the way the Calvinist debates proceeded is making much more sense to me...

Blogger Mark Adams April 07, 2012 10:42 PM  

Yep. I 56 - N 38 - T 50 - J 78

Blogger Desert Cat April 07, 2012 10:49 PM  

jay c April 07, 2012 10:01 PM
Can we really be that cliqueish?


Birds of a feather and all that. This place probably represents one of the highest concentrations of INTP and INTJ on the net.

Blogger physphilmusic April 07, 2012 11:14 PM  

Wow - so many INTJs! I'm one too:
I 78 N 25 T 62 J 56

Blogger Positive Dennis April 07, 2012 11:28 PM  

INTP here. Lol

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
67 88 38 44

Blogger Desert Cat April 07, 2012 11:43 PM  

My father lost his enthusiasm for the game when I reached the point that I could beat him on a regular basis. I pray that you don't do the same. I haven't played chess in the decades since Dad gave up...

Anonymous Difster April 08, 2012 12:04 AM  

ENTP Siempre.

Anonymous Orville April 08, 2012 12:54 AM  

75 Introverted
75 Intuitive
50 Thinking
44 Judging

Now leave me the hell alone ;-)

Blogger wordwarrior April 08, 2012 1:00 AM  

There is always one question on the test I can answer both ways. Its the difference between INFJ and INTJ. Takes forever thinking about it. Takes forever doing it. Takes forever to try again if it doesn't work the first time. If I am crazy, it is my own doing.

Anonymous Johnny Reb April 08, 2012 1:31 AM  

I - 11
N - 75
T - 50
P - 56

Interesting as i used to score a pretty solid INFP back in my younger days. I can definitely tell I've moved away from the F side of the equation and the P has dropped off as well.

Anonymous Mr. Scott April 08, 2012 1:39 AM  

Had to take that several times over the years, for one silly reason or another. I've been INTP, INTJ, ISTP, and one day in a good mood I was ESTP. The variability suggested either the test or I was screwed up in some way.
Interestingly, my score had no bearing on anything that came afterward -- just another check mark in some butt-covering bureaucrat's box.

Anonymous NC Dad April 08, 2012 1:44 AM  


Extraverted 11
Intuitive 50
Thinking 88
Judging 67

Same as always.

Anonymous stg58 April 08, 2012 2:21 AM  


Why are there so many INTJ's here?

Maybe Vox should do one of these anonymous surveys on Alpha Game that combines the previous sets of questions with the Meyers-Briggs Type. THAT would be interesting.

OpenID drewjustice April 08, 2012 3:24 AM  

Imo, that linked test is not one of the better MBTI tests

Blogger SarahsDaughter April 08, 2012 3:52 AM  

Still ESFJ, still married to INTJ. Though his "I" has fluctuated. He's fantastic in crowds but needs a reprieve, whereas social situations take nothing out of me.

Anonymous peccary April 08, 2012 4:25 AM  


67 25 62 44

Anonymous Boogeyman April 08, 2012 4:34 AM  


Introverted 61

Intuitive 25

Thinking 62

Judging 78

Seems I'm a shy, judgmental jerk. If I wasn't so lazy I could have been a big shot. Now, If you'll forgive me, I'm tired of all the hairy bullshit. Think I'll go to bed.

Blogger JDC April 08, 2012 6:39 AM  

Orville said...
Now leave me the hell alone ;-)

Awww come on. Don't you want to go to a large social gathering, where you don't know anybody, making small talk and sharing your responses? After that, we can go shopping, and then join a group of women and talk about relationships.

Anonymous tdm April 08, 2012 7:11 AM  

67-50-50-56, ISTJ. I still love a test.

Anonymous David Of One April 08, 2012 8:22 AM  

For those Ilk, like me, who are curious as to the distributions of types across the US Population ...

Anonymous jay c April 08, 2012 9:49 AM  

Its not just here. It seems like everywhere I go INTJs are vastly over represented.

Blogger Markku April 08, 2012 10:49 AM  

I won't even bother, because it will be INTJ as always.

Blogger Rod Freeman April 08, 2012 11:10 AM  

INTJ. Again.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2012 3:34 PM  

I've taken these tests periodically through my life: usually it comes up INFP, although a couple times I scored ISFP. I'm borderline on the intutitve/sensing polarity. Dan

Anonymous a lady. April 08, 2012 5:44 PM  

Here is the MBTI type distribution, further broken down by sex.

- an INTJ (sometimes ENTJ) woman.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2012 10:09 PM  

Im pretty much a lurker on the blog but have been so for years. I dont agree with much of vd's ideology but i always appreciate and value his take on things.

Im an intj. Did the mb years ago in college and about 8 years ago for work.

I dont think its a fluke that there are so "many" intjs here, but from what ive read, intj make up like 1-5% of the population.

Blogger mmaier2112 April 08, 2012 10:46 PM  

INFP, though I only scored 11 on the P part.

I'm fairly certain that my (annoying!) compassion has taken far too large of a hold on me of late.

And I'd go with INTJ on this test:

Different test

Blogger Desert Cat April 09, 2012 12:41 AM  

jay c April 08, 2012 9:49 AM
Its not just here. It seems like everywhere I go INTJs are vastly over represented.

Everywhere *you* go, yes I can see that. I wouldn't necessarily be attracted to a nest of ESFP's (for example) either.

Blogger Desert Cat April 09, 2012 12:44 AM  

There is another related aspect to that. It seems to me that introverts and intuitives as a group may be inclined to spend more time interacting on the internet than extroverts and the sensing type. That narrows the pool considerably from the general population.

Anonymous Redjack April 09, 2012 9:32 AM  


So many come here because Vox's views are well thought out and he can and does defend them. I don't agree with him on everything, but I know that for most things he has a rational reason for his views.

That is a rarity. Someone who is more sensing or emotional will be very offened and hurt by the personalities here.

Glad to see Ender is comeing along. Keep playing with him. My uncle taught me chess, but gave up after I started winning.

Blogger Susan Walsh April 09, 2012 10:28 AM  

Nice surprise getting linked at VP, thanks!

Hmmm, I wonder if there's any correlation between MBTI and the VD sociosexual hierarchy? Must be.

Anonymous Anonymous April 09, 2012 5:30 PM  

An observer

I 67
S 1
T 100
J 33

I really dislike chess.

Anonymous Tom B April 11, 2012 11:13 AM  


Strength of the preferences %
11 62 12 67

The description sounds about right, but I'm more impressed by the company I keep:

Famous INFJs:

Nathan, prophet of Israel
Mother Teresa of Calcutta
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Immanual Kant
Mohandas Gandhi
William Shakespeare
Ludwig Beethoven
Arthur C. Clarke
Sir Alec Guinness
Mel Gibson
Carrie Fisher
Nicole Kidman
Evangeline Lilly

Anonymous HardReturn¶ April 11, 2012 1:44 PM  

I 56
S 1
T 12
J 89

used to be INTJ

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