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Saturday, August 11, 2012

Ryan, not Rubio

This time around, I was wrong:
Mitt Romney today announced Wisconsin Representative Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate.
Ryan is actually a very good choice and indicates that Romney is not playing the role of a Dole/McCain sacrificial lamb. This doesn't change who Captain Underoos is or make any difference concerning what a disaster an even more bank-friendly president will be, but it should solidify conservative support and generate genuine enthusiasm amidst a Republican grassroots that had hitherto had serious and well-founded doubts about Romney.

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Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2012 8:13 AM  

Ryan was probably his best possible choice. Just as with McCain, it's not enough to make me vote for him, but it will be enough for a lot of people.

Anonymous JartStar August 11, 2012 8:22 AM  

Paul Ryan is a Gen-Xer. Interesting. I may actually watch the debates this year. I have a feeling Romney is will be so well prepared that Obama will be caught off guard several times.

Blogger Tank August 11, 2012 8:27 AM  

1. How refreshing is it to see anyone simply say "I was wrong?" Remarkable, really.

2. Ryan is a serious and "about as good as you could get" choice. A bright, capable guy, who may in fact "get it," and be pushing the bubble as far as politically possible.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2012 8:28 AM  

"America's Comeback Team"? What are they coming back from?

Anonymous JartStar August 11, 2012 8:30 AM  

I've also noticed that Obama's ads are universally negative which smacks of some desperation. Anyone know what Romney's IQ is?

Anonymous jack August 11, 2012 8:33 AM  

I suspect that Ryan may, depending on his replacement in the Congress, have been of more use there. Remains to be seen. Of course, if Romney should fall by the wayside at some point, then Ryan will get to prove his worth.

Anonymous Joel August 11, 2012 8:39 AM  

"Anyone know what Romney's IQ is?"

Irrelevant. If Romney isn't brave enough (and he isn't) to take off the PC gloves and attack Obama head-on when he needs to, it won't matter how many economic 'facts' he knows or how elegant he is in making a positive case for himself. All Obama and his minions have to do is play the R-card or some other left-liberal favorite and Romney will crap in his pants.

It's what sunk McCain and it'll be what sinks Romney as well.

Anonymous Alexamenos August 11, 2012 8:42 AM  

Ryan... It's kinda like he's after the Gen x white boy vote. I feel so loved.

Anonymous Outlaw X August 11, 2012 8:48 AM  

You think he will pick Ron Paul as Secretary of Treasury? :)

Blogger IM2L844 August 11, 2012 8:55 AM  

Paul Ryan is a Gen-Xer. Interesting.

Yep. I expect the Ryan Attacks Boomers headlines from of the liberal press to commence shortly.

Anonymous Bob Ramar August 11, 2012 9:03 AM  

Marco Rubio does not qualify as a 'natural born' citizen. Picking him would nullify any argument presented about Obama being unqualified due to his citizenship status. If not for that issue, Rubio would be an excellent choice for many reasons.

Choosing Ryan was a very good move and virtually assures that the R squared ticket will win in a landslide. The political calculation is almost the same as Regan-Bush in 1980, except the roles have been switched in the ticket positions. Romney is playing Bush and Ryan is Regan. Of course the conservative retards will swoon once again and all pull the R lever because 'this is the mostest, importantist election in our lifetime.'

Anonymous Joel August 11, 2012 9:11 AM  

Bob Ramar: "Marco Rubio does not qualify as a 'natural born' citizen. Picking him would nullify any argument presented about Obama being unqualified due to his citizenship status. If not for that issue, Rubio would be an excellent choice for many reasons."

First of all, Republicans don't care about the eligibility issue. If Romney felt Rubio was the best choice, he would have picked him, without concern about his natural born status.

And out of curiosity, what would make Rubio such an excellent choice? His warmongering ways? His love for amnesty? His non-whiteness? I'm at a loss as to what is so great about the man, from a principled perspective. Or are you thinking in a strict strategic, pragmatic sense?

Anonymous Bob Ramar August 11, 2012 9:12 AM  

Now that the VP question is settled, we move on to the debates. I have read that the Obama team is preparing to 'out' some of the more outlandish beliefs and practices of Morons .... oops, I mean Mormons. Like this....

"Governor Romney, is it true that Mormons wear 'magic underwear' and if so, do you and what do they do for you?"

Anonymous Just Mark August 11, 2012 9:13 AM  

Can Ryan deliver Wisconsin. Can Ryan force Obama to waste resources in MN and MI. Can he bolster Underoos chances in IA. Can he help deliver OH.

Those are the questions.

Romney should obliterate Obama in the debates and I don't think Ryan will have any problem with the Delaware doofus either.

Anonymous Bob Ramar August 11, 2012 9:14 AM  

Joel: You said "First of all, Republicans don't care about the eligibility issue. If Romney felt Rubio was the best choice, he would have picked him, without concern about his natural born status."

Obviously they do care or they would have picked Rubio for exactly the reasons you mentioned!!!!!!

Blogger Hacked acct. No longer your supporter $1.50 August 11, 2012 9:16 AM  

Wait and see. This is interesting.

Blogger IM2L844 August 11, 2012 9:17 AM  

Dang, Christine Pelosi already beat me to the punch in a Huffington Post Ryan hit piece earlier this morning with:

"Calls to cut spending mean paying our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare benefits and slashing Medicaid just when aging baby boomers begin to retire and need these essentials."

The irony is, considering the sentiments among many of the younger voters, that these kinds of articles could end up helping Romney/Ryan more than hurting them.

Anonymous Bob Ramar August 11, 2012 9:17 AM  

Joel: Yes, I am thinking in a strict, pragmatic sense. Always. Except when I am trying to make a joke.

Anonymous Josh August 11, 2012 9:19 AM  

Ryan is a terrible choice: the only people tjis excites are the nro types.

Anonymous Joel August 11, 2012 9:20 AM  

I'd like to see a mature, substantive discussion regarding Romney's Mormonism. Something to do with the important theological points of the religion itself, such as its radical polytheism and redefinition of Christ and salvation.

But we're too much of a dumb, spiritually blind, post-Christian country for such a discussion. So magic underwear it is, I guess.

p.s. Also, Paul Ryan is a Roman Catholic. In saner times, A Mormon/Roman Catholic ticket would be a non-starter. Now who even cares, Christians included?

Blogger Aviator4 August 11, 2012 9:25 AM  

I think VA governor McDonnell would have been the best choice, but agree that Ryan should cement the GOP base. Regardless of what the polls indicate, this will be a very close election that will be in the balance until late in the evening on election night.

The fact that Obama currently leads in the polls is a sad reflection on the overall decline of America.

Anonymous Slurtebrautfust August 11, 2012 9:31 AM  

Ryan is Reagan?!? Give me a break. Reagan, under advice from Lt. Gen. Odom, would have never taken us into Iraq.

Facts about Ryan:

-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)

Ryan supports the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, federal bailouts, increased federal involvement in education, unconstitutional and undeclared wars, Medicare Part D (a multi trillion dollar unfunded liability), stimulus spending, and foreign aid.

Ryan gave a hysterical speech in the rush to pass TARP last fall. He voted for the auto bailout. And, voted with the Barney Frank-Nancy Pelosi AIG bonus-bashing stampede.

Oh Romney/Ryan are perfect for each other. Two peas in a pod. We will get neo-conned once again. Suckers deserve their reward coming...

I now give you Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

"Whether you vote Republican or Democrat, the oligarchs will win."

Anonymous Joel August 11, 2012 9:32 AM  

Bob Ramar: "Obviously they do care or they would have picked Rubio for exactly the reasons you mentioned!!!!!!"

I don't know why you assume that the eligibility issue is *the* reason why Romney didn't pick Rubio. From what I can see, very few people on the conservative right are even aware of the fact that Rubio has an eligibility problem to begin with. And even when I've tried to educate such people about it, most don't really care. After all, unlike Obama, Rubio is a Republican, which makes him one of the good guys.

It might be as simple as not wanting the immigration controversy to consume his campaign. Sure, Rubio might net him a few Hispanic voters here or there, but probably not a enough to off-set the white people upset with his stance on amnesty.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 11, 2012 9:35 AM  

Will it really make a difference?

Mish thinks we are f*cked and it seems that by their preparations the government does too.

Anonymous Joel August 11, 2012 9:37 AM  

re: Slurtebrautfust

Not to even mention the fact that Ryan's highly-lauded budget plan won't even balance the budget until something like 2040, because he's too afraid to make cuts to the welfarism already in place. And this guy is supposed to be one of our best economic saviors? God help us--and I mean that.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet August 11, 2012 9:38 AM  

Magic underwear,
big whoop
I have a pair of magic underwear,
I bought a pair of boxers about 15 years ago and they magically transformed themselves into a thong.
And believe me,nobody wants to see this.
And if you do catch me wearing my magic underwear.
No.... it just means it's laundry day

DannyR

Anonymous Josh August 11, 2012 9:43 AM  

Ryan also cosponsored the 2005 amnesty bill

Anonymous A Visitor August 11, 2012 9:50 AM  

"the conservative retards will swoon once again and all pull the R lever because 'this is the mostest, importantist election in our lifetime."  I'm almost 26 and this really is the most important election of my lifetime.  I did not vote for that son of a bitch that currently occupies the White House back in 2008.  Then again, I didn't vote for McCain.  I went with the Constitution Party.

I'm not naive, either; if Romney wins, our situation may not get any better.  Vox, in his WND columns and here, has presented a compelling case why Romney in the White House may be a disaster.  

The greatest threat to our republic is immigration, period.  Neither Dear Leader or Romney are anywhere close to the positions we need them to be on this issue.  Ideally, they would be either spot on or close to the position of enforcement and deportation through attrition like Ike was with Operation: Wetback.  At the same time, they'd pressure MCs to introduce bills that would either a) repeal the Hart-Cellar Immigration Act or b) at least impose a fifty year net-zero moratorium on immigration to assimilate those who are here and give us time to think if we really want another torrent of 3rd Worlders.

However, given all this and the slow destruciton of our republic, I'll take what I can get: Romney/Ryan 2012!"

Anonymous The other skeptic August 11, 2012 9:53 AM  

Hispanic "intellectual" calls for certain white males to be put in internment camps

Can the calls for all white males to be put in internment camps be far behind?

Blogger Unknown August 11, 2012 9:58 AM  

There are those who state that "it is too late for solutions". There are no operable solutions regardless of election outcomes. Broke is broke. Arithmetic does not fail ultimately. Democrats will once again convince the old people, of which I'm one, that they will lose their entitlements. My crowd will vote to screw any other crowd.

Anonymous Joel August 11, 2012 10:02 AM  

A Visitor: "However, given all this and the slow destruciton of our republic, I'll take what I can get: Romney/Ryan 2012!"

Which is exactly what the pro mass immigration multiculuralists in the Republican establishment want you to do. It's the same thing every four years: Republicans say, "I know you conservatives aren't happy with [Republican candidate X], but look how much worse the other guy is!" And then, like clockwork, said conservatives all rush to the polls and vote for the supposed lesser of two evils.

Meanwhile, liberalism marches forward. Secularism continues to make gains. America falls further into third-world diversity hell. What have the conservatives gained for holding their nose, taking whatever "they can get"? Nothing.

Don't give in to the politics of fear. There's nothing to be gained by doing so, but there will be plenty to lose.

Anonymous A Visitor August 11, 2012 10:15 AM  

Joel,

"Which is exactly what the pro mass immigration multiculuralists in the Republican establishment want you to do." That's why I didn't vote for McCain in '08. I have no illusions about Romney, at the moment.

"America falls further into third-world diversity hell. What have the conservatives gained for holding their nose, taking whatever "they can get"? Nothing." What the hell are we supposed to do, then? Fold up shop? I told myself after '08, I'd never vote for another Republican for POTUS unless they get it on immigration.

I'm adding an asterisk, just this once to that statement by voting for Romney in November. Don't get me wrong, he really is the same, on nearly everything, as Dear Leader. I doubt anything will change. Just for once though, I want to see that vote stealing (he got onto the primary ballot in my state by fraud), race-baiting, community organizing, Communist bastard go down in flames.

Provided we defeat Dear Leader in November, Romney will have to work to get my vote in '16. This election is the one time I can not in good faith vote for a third party. After seeing the previous four years, I can't. Granted, Romney may give us six months, a year more before we collapse. On the bright side, that's six months to a year of extra prep we would not have with Dear Leader.

Anonymous Gx1080 August 11, 2012 10:16 AM  

Reading the Repubs's blogs, this seems to be a move that the Republican voter base really wanted.

Also, it's mind-boogling that Dems now are cornered to defend the #1 position of the Tea Party (besides sour grapes for McCain's bending over and taking it on the ass on 2008): Defending Boomers.

Anonymous VD August 11, 2012 10:17 AM  

Will it really make a difference?

No.

Anonymous A Visitor August 11, 2012 10:21 AM  

I guess what I 'm trying to say is I'm 25 and although I speak several foreign languages, have been around the world, there's no place like America. I love our republic, our right to bear arms, everything enshrined in the Constitution. For those of you with a few more years on the clock than me, you have more money and a better idea of where'd you go when it all comes crashing down.

For me, it's not that easy. Money is minimal right now and I've seen enough of the world to know I would never be comfortable anywhere else.

It is irksome, how the Republican party gives us a choice of the lesser of two evils every four years. However, this year I don't know what else to do.

Now, if you all would kindly excuse me, I'm off to enjoy my Saturday. I'm sure we shall be seeing each other again, real soon.

Blogger Good Will August 11, 2012 10:36 AM  

Score one for Romney! I can't think of a better pick. (Even Rand Paul doesn't have the "credentials" of Paul Ryan - yet.)

I'm actually feeling a little better about the country's prospects today.

Blogger Good Will August 11, 2012 10:39 AM  

Joel August 11, 2012 8:39 AM

All Obama and his minions have to do is play the R-card or some other left-liberal favorite and Romney will crap in his pants.


Not likely. Romney (the Mormon) has been deflecting the race card his whole life.

Anonymous Cheddarman August 11, 2012 10:40 AM  

I'm not looking forward to more wars, more foreign intervention, more immigrants and more debt under a Romney presidency.

It will be especially hilarious, in sad and demented way, to see us try and "win" in Afghanistan, and start a war with Iran.

Blogger Username_Unavailable August 11, 2012 10:45 AM  

A Visitor: "What the hell are we supposed to do, then?"

Not give your consent to the evil Republicans are giving us. I think you greatly underestimate the power in that. Ultimately, as a Christian, I am called to do live truthfully and righteously. That's all I can do. The rest I leave up to God, who is control of all things.

A Visitor continues: "Just for once though, I want to see that vote stealing (he got onto the primary ballot in my state by fraud), race-baiting, community organizing, Communist bastard go down in flames."

I won't deny the temptation of seeing Obama go down in flames. But I refuse to allow such fleshly motivation to drive me to vote for evil, especially given the fact that the end result will merely be one devil replacing another. You said yourself that you don't expect anything to really change, that Romney isn't much different.

Anonymous Porter August 11, 2012 10:45 AM  

And now with the slot solidified we may begin the obligatory pandering. Every four years the Republican nominee performs the same ritual. They look solemnly into the eyes of White America—their exclusive source of votes—and offer the one political pledge that is never broken:

I will do absolutely nothing for you.

Once so assured, Whites dutifully trundle to the polls in support of their boys in red.

Anonymous VD August 11, 2012 10:54 AM  

I'm actually feeling a little better about the country's prospects today.

Why? Did you not read Slurtebrautfust's list of Ryan's voting accomplishments?

Anonymous Rantor August 11, 2012 10:54 AM  

A prediction, if Romney wins, Obama will go to the middle-East and be a welcome leader in the new Caliphate. It will stretch from Morrocco to Syria and from Turkey to Saudi Arabia. Michelle will not go with him

Blogger Username_Unavailable August 11, 2012 10:57 AM  

VD: "Why?"

Because he's a Republican! He's one of the good guys! Go Romney/Ryan!

Anonymous Rantor August 11, 2012 11:02 AM  

Two pro-bank, corporatist, statist Republicans. One of them who has convinced the country that he is Conservative when he is actually just a middle of the road moderate. The other a Northeast Liberal...

As one of my neighbors put it, "I'll vote for a can of orange juice over Obama." Unfortunately many are going to do just that and we'll end up with Romneyade, deficits, economic collapse and a Democrat, Statist, Socialist rescue team in 2016.

Romney and Ryan, extend and pretend, and that is working for someone out there?

Whatever.

Blogger Unknown August 11, 2012 11:15 AM  

"I guess what I 'm trying to say is I'm 25 and although I speak several foreign languages, have been around the world, there's no place like America. I love our republic, our right to bear arms, everything enshrined in the Constitution."

When you have had the experience, as I have, of being forced by your government to serve in the military, to fight an undeclared war (Constitutionally mandated), to work to kill another person who has done nothing personally to me, to be scorned by your fellow countrymen for your participation, then you might have a second thought on the wonders of our Republic. Think Vietnam.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 11, 2012 11:23 AM  


I'm not looking forward to more wars, more foreign intervention, more immigrants and more debt under a Romney presidency.


I think that the doofuses in charge of the economy and their lapdogs in Congress thought that the good old inflationary times would continue for ever.

They did not count on deflation occurring and preventing then from inflating their way out of debt. It seems like they have two choices:

1. Repudiate all the debt (including promises made to US Citizens), or

2. Keep the lid on discontent until happy inflationary times return.

There will be pain.

Anonymous III August 11, 2012 11:32 AM  

A good choice wouldn't have taken the spot.

Anonymous JartStar August 11, 2012 11:36 AM  

A prediction, if Romney wins, Obama will go to the middle-East and be a welcome leader in the new Caliphate. It will stretch from Morrocco to Syria and from Turkey to Saudi Arabia. Michelle will not go with him.

That would take work. He's not fond of work. After he leaves office I suspect he will go on the most lucrative, yet easiest lecture circuit imaginable and play even more golf. I doubt we will here much from him out of office.

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2012 11:38 AM  

Two white males, allegedly heterosexual.....is the experimentation over now?

Have the Banksters That Be given up on the pretenses?

Anonymous Roundtine August 11, 2012 11:40 AM  

"Calls to cut spending mean paying our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare benefits and slashing Medicaid just when aging baby boomers begin to retire and need these essentials."

The irony is, considering the sentiments among many of the younger voters, that these kinds of articles could end up helping Romney/Ryan more than hurting them.


I bet it will. Ryan is one of the few people capable of pointing out that Obama cut Medicare and Social Security to fund Obamacare, which the elderly hate. Since Obama made the cuts already, to fund more deficit spending, Ryan can spin it back as "we need to make cuts, let's not waste them on Obamacare/bigger deficits"

I still think it's a bad pick though. Republicans (except McCain) tend to not run for their seat in Congress. If Ryan is "retired" by the election, that's a big loss for the GOP.

Blogger Username_Unavailable August 11, 2012 11:52 AM  

"If Ryan is "retired" by the election, that's a big loss for the GOP."

But a gain for the Republic. Hmm, maybe there is a silver-lining to this pick.

Anonymous VD August 11, 2012 11:54 AM  

Michelle will not go with him

Reggie Love, on the other hand, will.

Blogger Positive Dennis August 11, 2012 12:05 PM  

http://www.prophecypodcast.com/journal/2012/3/30/happy-rainbow-unicorns-and-the-ryan-budget.html

I do not feel the desire to cheer if our national bus as it heads toward a cliff, slows down from 60 to 40.

Blogger RobertT August 11, 2012 12:26 PM  

Ho hum. This is a non event. Wasted opportunity.

Anonymous re allow anonymous comments August 11, 2012 12:41 PM  

I think you guys are too doom and gloom.

We can deal with corrupt bankster republican establishment goons. They don't fundamentally hate us, they are merely indifferent.

Anonymous JI August 11, 2012 12:43 PM  

Vox says this doesn't change who Romney is. Well, he's right. But it might change our opinions of who Romney is. And, just like his VP prognostication, Vox might be wrong in his own opinion. I am very heartened by this choice, I hope it translates into a serious campaign.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2012 12:46 PM  

"Calls to cut spending mean paying our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare benefits and slashing Medicaid just when aging baby boomers begin to retire and need these essentials."

Heh heh. A boomer die-off. Aging, selfish, desperate Boomers, wheedling for help and receiving none. Boomers turned out on the sidewalk and told to go fuck themselves.

Works for me. Now where did I put that voting booth?

Blogger Rahul August 11, 2012 12:46 PM  

Ryan's words make him sound like a fiscal conservative. However, he's a RINO at best. He won't even cut military spending. Hate on Obama all you want for deficit spending, but our military spending is out of control. Sure Ryan's plan is better than doing nothing at all.....but still, this won't change anything.

Anonymous VD August 11, 2012 12:49 PM  

I am very heartened by this choice, I hope it translates into a serious campaign.

Some people never learn. No doubt you were heartened by George W. Bush too.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 11, 2012 12:56 PM  

No doubt PG Wodehouse was as sincerely sorry for his transgressions during WWII as Bush was sincere about the War on Terror

Anonymous The OASF August 11, 2012 12:57 PM  

"Calls to cut spending mean paying our hard-earned Social Security and Medicare benefits and slashing Medicaid just when aging baby boomers begin to retire and need these essentials."

Yeah the freakin' idiot tea partiers will finally get what they want... massive government cuts, so they will have to hock their overpriced p.o.s. harley's and skip all the social security white trash bike runs "for the cure". I wish I could see the look on their collective faces. I can't stop laughing haha... hahahahahahahabahwhahhhaaaaa...

Every now and then this blog puts something out there that can change one's thinking entirely. When VD once mentioned that it's the sick, elderly, women and children who will get crushed in the collapse... this was a spectacular "in your face" to all the psy-ops commercials, movies and failed NBC prime-time shows featuring magic noble negoes, strong women, children, and dastardly alpha males dominating the helpless fatty white men. Oh when the ponzi-scheme checks stop coming it will be magnificent times indeed for the "new disadvantaged underclass."

Anyway, all I can say is that with prices on organic produce going down and weapons now available on every street corner and prices you can't refuse I'll have an AK strapped over my shoulder and some juicy organic tomatoes and to throw at the weaker vessels while their being marched to the FEMA camps... hahahahahahahabahwhahhhaaaaa

The Collapse. I can't wait!

Anonymous Matt August 11, 2012 1:01 PM  

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

But the lesser of two evils is still less evil.

Romney is pretty bad, and Ryan certainly has a list of inauspicious votes (as mentioned in the comment above). But is Ryan better than every other plausible VP pick? Well, yes. Maybe it's not worth throwing a party over, and maybe it won't be the salvation of the republic, but it's an improvement. If nothing else it might help our budgetary reality penetrate just a tiny bit into the consciousness of the body politic.

Blogger Desert Cat August 11, 2012 1:02 PM  

What this choice means, by its implied will to win, is that TPTB have determined that it is time to trash civil liberties some more. The economic chaos is coming along nicely--time to shift gears again.

Anonymous Suomynona August 11, 2012 1:02 PM  

I have no expectations of any substantial changes in the disastrous direction in which this country is headed, but two nice-looking white men will be refreshing after four years of mutants occupying the White House. Romney's choice has certainly excited the base. The Republican cheerleaders have already started: "Romney/Ryan because after Obama the US deserves some R&R!"

Aw hell, this will be the first Presidential election in which I will vote, not because I support Romney/Ryan, but because I want Obama to go down, to spite all the liberal retards who worship this Marxist monkey. Every appointee of Obama's is a godless freak. Not having to see the likes of that retarded clown Biden, that snake Holder, that disgusting dyke Napolitano, and all the rest of the vermin in that administration will be worth it.

As can be expected not everyone has taken this news well....

The USA is a freak show.

Blogger Desert Cat August 11, 2012 1:06 PM  

Trouble is, I can't even vote for Gary Johnson now, given how thoroughly Karl has disabused any notion that he represents a real "libertarian" alternative.

Blogger Jim, August 11, 2012 1:06 PM  

I wonder if this is just an appeal for more woman voters instead of latinos. Gotta admit, this has to be the best 1-2 combo of presidential hair ever. Chicks dig hair, and gen-x to boot? Gonna be hard for middle class women to vote against Ryan.

Unfortunately, Ryan is just another RINO who happens to be Gen-X, so his age means nothing to me given his voting record.

Blogger Morrison August 11, 2012 1:08 PM  

Ryan is a follower the outspoken Atheist Ayn Rand.

Of course, she received her education under the officially atheistic Soviet State.

All those Christian Republicans should be proud.

Blogger Morrison August 11, 2012 1:09 PM  

Ryan is a follower the outspoken Atheist Ayn Rand.

Of course, she received her education under the officially atheistic Soviet State.

All those Christian Republicans should be proud.

Anonymous Sojourner August 11, 2012 1:17 PM  

Actually Morrison he's come out pretty strongly against Ayn Rand, especially regarding her atheistic thinking. I'm not big on the guy but let's not grab our info from the Lefties.

Anonymous E. PERLINE August 11, 2012 1:33 PM  

Libertarians are able to change their strategy and Republican are able to change their strategy too. Hopefully, a Romney-Ryan ticket will feature the strategies that work. That's how the private sector has to do it. Or it's curtains.

Obama is not likely to change his strategy. He has his mission. he is committed to using his first term policies to promote communism. That's why I'm surprised that many Libertarians won't take sides at all.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 11, 2012 1:36 PM  

Why would any politician be content to be a representative of the people of the greatest country in the world? What could be better than being President of the USA?

Why, President of the world, of course.

Do we understand the game plan now?

Anonymous Salt August 11, 2012 1:36 PM  

And the comedy begins in earnest.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 11, 2012 1:53 PM  

Slurtebrautfust nails it:

Facts about Ryan:

-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
-Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)

Ryan supports the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, federal bailouts, increased federal involvement in education, unconstitutional and undeclared wars, Medicare Part D (a multi trillion dollar unfunded liability), stimulus spending, and foreign aid.

Ryan gave a hysterical speech in the rush to pass TARP last fall. He voted for the auto bailout. And, voted with the Barney Frank-Nancy Pelosi AIG bonus-bashing stampede.


A typical Repuke, in other words. Note that Capt. Underoos agrees with D'Won that the Boy Scouts should admit sodomites. I thinking now is the time Repukes should just come out of the closet all the way and nominate Jerry Sandusky instead of Mittens. Meanwhile, as Barnhardt points out, the wholesale looting of customer accounts has been given a green light by the "courts". Corzine must be laughing about now.

Anonymous Feeling tired... August 11, 2012 2:09 PM  

I still have to wonder...are these (on both sides) the BEST we have to offer ourselves? And I ask that AGAIN...I've been voting since Reagan and I think he was the only President I was EVER excited about voting for. If so, we are doomed.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 11, 2012 2:12 PM  

I think that the political classes are going to use the failure of the Euro and the impending crisis in the US as a justification for the unification of large parts of the world. It will stated that we have to protect minorities, women and children from the greedy capitalists and from rapacious white men.

Because there will be holdouts (Russia? China? etc) we will see some massive wars.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2012 2:12 PM  

As I've told numerous FB friends and relatives.

Paul Ryan as VP is like putting a fancy new saddle on a dying horse. It helps hide the emaciated carcass.

farmer Tom

Anonymous Sensualinus Eggplanticus Syndrominus August 11, 2012 2:21 PM  

Agreed the magica niger should be fired for his incompetence alone on the economy. But, to replace him with the phantasticus nephite?!?

Everyone repeat after me:

"Black is White, and White is Black."
"Black is White, and White is Black."
"Black is White, and White is Black."

Now, do we all feel better now? Good, go about your business. Nothing more to see here...

Faithfully submitted,

MIB

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2012 2:32 PM  

Whatever my disdain for a dying world. The debates should be fun to watch. I think Romney and Ryan can handle it. Biggest pair of sitting dumbasses I've seen.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2012 3:01 PM  

Sorry. Almost. The O and biden are the comedy reliref.

Anonymous jack August 11, 2012 3:32 PM  

As can be expected not everyone has taken this news well....


I wondered how long it would take the Hitler parody to come out over
this VP pick. You hear the German over and over and see the video; the entertainment is in the closed caption, fake translations. Some of these things show real talent.

Anonymous Noah B. August 11, 2012 4:13 PM  

@Kong

That's incredibly depressing.

Anonymous Noah B. August 11, 2012 4:14 PM  

I don't know why, though. We all need to get past being surprised by this kind of crap. We are talking about crooks and criminals here.

Anonymous Anonymous August 11, 2012 4:20 PM  

I for one plan to vote the Nough / Boddie 2012 ticket. Because i firmly believe that Nough / Boddie will keep their promises.

Anonymous Good Will (aka The Mormon Hamster) August 11, 2012 4:35 PM  

VD August 11, 2012 10:54 AM
GW: I'm actually feeling a little better about the country's prospects today.

Why? Did you not read Slurtebrautfust's list of Ryan's voting accomplishments?

No, I hadn't gotten that far yet.

Damn. Can't drink. Can't fool around. Can't get high. Now I can't even get excited about the Romney/Ryan ticket!

You've spoiled all my fun. (I'll step off my wheel now.)

Anonymous Noah B. August 11, 2012 4:54 PM  

This choice does show that Romney has no sense of humor. Jon Huntsman, Eric Cantor, or Larry Craig would have made a much more interesting nomination.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 11, 2012 4:54 PM  

Brian Leiter, a Jew, runs a "philosophy" blog called Leiter Reports.

He has a post today on Romney's VIP pick:

""...the horror, the horror. In some ways, this is even worse than McCain's choice of the narcissistic moron Sarah Palin in 2008. First, Ryan has a clear ideology, and it's a mixture of the vicious and the insane. Second, Ryan does not seem to be as inept and self-destructive as Palin, so he may really be the future even if Romney loses this year. In other words, the Republican Party is now officially the party committed to destroying Medicare and destroying Social Security. Unless they are crushed in the election, this battle is going to continue for a generation or more.""

This is what they think of you. "They are to be Crushed".

""Consider, in perspective, what's happened: an ideology (partly inspired by Rand--remember dopey Alan Greenspan?) of deregulation and unbridled capitalism brought the world to the brink of economic collapse in 2008. Four years later, the Republican Party has now openly embraced a full-throated Randian ideology. This country has learned nothing. If Obama does not rise to this occasion, and launch a full-throttled attack on this ideology, he will go down in history as the most craven coward in American politics.""

I like how Brian Leiter posits that it is deregulation and capitalism, not the lack of virtue, that caused the 2008 meltdown. No, not his fellow Jewish countrymen at Wall Street, but Ayn Rand's sophistry (a Jewish woman) is what is at the bottom of the 2008 financial crisis.

The rest of the article is here: Romney chooses Randroid Paul Ryan as VP.

All the Ilk ought to read that. Brian Leiter runs a very famous blog. He is an atheist and he directs people's attention to what he suits him. What suits the Jewish/atheist perspective. This is who controls your country.

Anonymous SDH August 11, 2012 4:59 PM  

Some people never learn. No doubt you were heartened by George W. Bush too.

What's wrong with you? This time it's different. Promise.

Blogger Astrosmith August 11, 2012 5:14 PM  

You know, if they go after Captain Underoos about the "Magic Mormon Underwear", all he'll have to say is this:

The undergarments are simply part of our church's beliefs. Mormons are not the only religion that requires its followers to wear certain items of clothing. For example, the Sikhs also have their own undergarments that they wear as an article of their faith. And my sympathy goes out to those good people, Sikhs, in Wisconsin who lost their lives earlier this year.

Anonymous Mr. D August 11, 2012 5:39 PM  

Maybe conservatives are happy with Romney's VP pick because they've confused Paul Ryan with Rand Paul. It could happen.

Anonymous The OASF August 11, 2012 5:54 PM  

"Maybe conservatives are happy with Romney's VP pick because they've confused Paul Ryan with Rand Paul. It could happen."

True. They are just that stupid.

Anonymous The Schvonce August 11, 2012 6:21 PM  

I love oligarchy. It's fun.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 11, 2012 6:33 PM  

WLW (with quotes from Marxist racket-scientist Brian Leiter)

This is what they think of you. "They are to be Crushed".

Consider, in perspective, what's happened: an ideology (partly inspired by Rand--remember dopey Alan Greenspan?) of deregulation and unbridled capitalism brought the world to the brink of economic collapse in 2008. Four years later, the Republican Party has now openly embraced a full-throated Randian ideology. This country has learned nothing. If Obama does not rise to this occasion, and launch a full-throttled attack on this ideology, he will go down in history as the most craven coward in American politics.

I like how Brian Leiter posits that it is deregulation and capitalism, not the lack of virtue, that caused the 2008 meltdown. No, not his fellow Jewish countrymen at Wall Street, but Ayn Rand's sophistry (a Jewish woman) is what is at the bottom of the 2008 financial crisis.

The rest of the article is here: Romney chooses Randroid Paul Ryan as VP.

All the Ilk ought to read that. Brian Leiter runs a very famous blog. He is an atheist and he directs people's attention to what he suits him. What suits the Jewish/atheist perspective. This is who controls your country.


Actually, WLW, this is an example of the mirror-image of Repuke idiocy. Leiter is correct in a sense about both the "free-market / anarcho-kapitalist / libertardian" ideology and Mittens' embrace of it. What he fails to mention (no doubt deliberately) is that D'Won and his gang are in the pockets of the very same Babylonian vampire-squids that Willard Mittens and Ryan are. Brian Leiter thus plays his part in keeping the wings of the dialectical dragon flapping on its inexorable flight into the fires of total annihilation and genocide - all in the name of some shiny sexy scientific utopian vision of pure Satanic evil.

FarmerTom remarked: Paul Ryan as VP is like putting a fancy new saddle on a dying horse. It helps hide the emaciated carcass. It only helps hide a bloated, maggot-encrusted carcass from those who are mostly blind to begin with. IN other words, there is nothing about Paul Ryan is is not typical Repuke to the core. Ryan's agenda and purpose, backed up by his record of nearly two decades, has been "conservative" only in the sense that it conserves the gains made by his partners on the "other side of the aisle" in dismantling what remained of the rule of law and liberty.

Auster, who has had somewhat of a blind spot in this area for a while about the fundamental nature of the so-called "opposition", is finally starting to see that there is no actual opposition.

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden August 11, 2012 6:39 PM  

Ryan et al, listen up!

A Marine Speaks

"The Afghan people are tired of the world trying to shove democracy-- a foreign concept of freedom that they consider to be illegitimate-- down their throats."

Interesting, that he seems to be channeling another from decades back...

Will we ever learn? What will it take, short of our complete destruction?

It would seem, that we are certainly doomed..... by our own hand.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 11, 2012 7:26 PM  

Lawerence Auster in another post quotes Mark Steyn: Steyn on the financial gulf into which we are heading

Auster quotes the pertinent parts:

""I wouldn’t claim to know what America believes or even what “New Hampshire Believes,” but this is what I believe—that another four years of the present statist ascendancy will seal America’s fate.""

Here Steyn already recognizes that America's goose is cooked!

And at the end Steyn says this, ""This election represents the last exit ramp before the death spiral….

...Romney’s insipid message does not rise to the challenge this nation faces. Maybe the milquetoast pantywaist candy-assed soft-focus “Believe in America” shtick will prove sufficient under a relentless barrage of nakedly thuggish attack ads designed to Barry Goldwater the guy.""

We have already lost. This adjective of "Milquetoast pantywaist candy-assed" describes the Republican party, even John McCain, when it comes to Political Correctness. Romney is this 24/7 anyway. A Monarch, usually, has backbone. None of our jokers has this. The political correct machine has already inoculated 99% of the population into PeeCee that it can't be stopped.

Steyn already recognizes that we are in a death spiral. There is no way out of it. We are deceived if we think the Diversity Queen McRomneynuts with Social Justice Catholic Ryan is going to stop the spiral. They ain't! America is finished.

Anonymous JI August 11, 2012 7:31 PM  

I said:
"I am very heartened by this choice, I hope it translates into a serious campaign."

VD said:
"Some people never learn. No doubt you were heartened by George W. Bush too."

No, I wasn't. At all. I am not a Bush fan and never was. As you admitted, Vox, you were wrong about Romney's choice of VP, expecting him to pick some horrible Bush replica like Rubio. So maybe Romney won't be as terrible as you (and I, I have to admit) have been thinking. Wrong once means you could be wrong twice.

Anonymous Matt August 11, 2012 8:00 PM  

Steyn already recognizes that we are in a death spiral. There is no way out of it. We are deceived if we think the Diversity Queen McRomneynuts with Social Justice Catholic Ryan is going to stop the spiral. They ain't! America is finished.

Maybe. But if you're on a plane in the midst of a crash landing wouldn't you rather get Toonces the Driving Cat out of the seat and put somebody competent in the cockpit to give you a better chance of walking away from the crash? Ryan at least has some idea that the plane is pointed nose-down, which is something.

Not all crashes are created equal and I'd prefer the one me and my family are most likely to muddle through safely.

Blogger VD August 11, 2012 8:27 PM  

As you admitted, Vox, you were wrong about Romney's choice of VP, expecting him to pick some horrible Bush replica like Rubio. So maybe Romney won't be as terrible as you (and I, I have to admit) have been thinking. Wrong once means you could be wrong twice.

No. There is being wrong about one fake conservative versus another. And then there is confusing a squid with an iron. Romney will be even worse than Bush.

Blogger VD August 11, 2012 8:28 PM  

Ryan at least has some idea that the plane is pointed nose-down, which is something.

No, he doesn't. He believes government spending is the way out of a debt crisis. He'll crash the plane far more effectively and efficiently than Obama ever could.

Anonymous Gelf Sara August 11, 2012 8:42 PM  

"The Titanic sails at dawn
And everybody’s shouting
“Which Side Are You On?”

--Dylan, DESOLATION ROW--

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2012 9:02 PM  

He'll crash the plane far more effectively and efficiently than Obama ever could.

Lets see. Bain Capital. Buy failing companies (countries) and sell as many assets as possible for personal gain then let it go tits up.

Good strategy for America Inc. at this time.

Kill 'em all and let God decide.

Blogger rcocean August 11, 2012 9:53 PM  

I can only say that as a supporter of Bush I, Bush II, Bob Dole, and John McCain this is the greatest pick, ever. Ever.

On one hand, Ryan will give us the all important, "we need to cut SS and medicare" vote, while at the same time deliver those Hispanics and Asians pining for a bland Midwestern white guy.

Blogger rcocean August 11, 2012 9:54 PM  

Probably the greatest Republican pick since Jerry Ford, or even Dick Cheney.

Anonymous zen0 August 11, 2012 10:06 PM  

NFL not OT:

Seattle Shitehawks versus Tennessee Tighties in a pre-season tilt tonite. I am boycotting pink month this year... who is with me?

Treat your sweetie to a dinner and mammogram instead. Be a champion.

Anonymous MInTheGap (@MInTheGap) August 11, 2012 10:10 PM  

I think that the GOP reads this blog more than you think. Four years ago Vox stated that if McCain really wanted to with this, he'd pick Palin. This year, his best prediction for Romney was Ryan.

Wonder if it's just selective reading...

Blogger rcocean August 11, 2012 10:22 PM  

I can't wait for the Biden Ryan debate.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 11, 2012 11:16 PM  

WLW: We have already lost. This adjective of "Milquetoast pantywaist candy-assed" describes the Republican party, even John McCain, when it comes to Political Correctness. Romney is this 24/7 anyway. A Monarch, usually, has backbone. None of our jokers has this. The political correct machine has already inoculated 99% of the population into PeeCee that it can't be stopped.

I tend to agree. It's a done deal already. Mittens is no Monarch for sure. That's hardly a surprise though as the Babylonian vampire-squids who actually call all the shots aren't about to permit anyone with backbone to ascend to the teleprompter-reader's nominal office anyway. As Barnhardt has remarked on several occasions, the truly disgraceful cowards and craven sellouts are those who wear the uniform and chose to bow to the squids instead of doing the genuinely brave and patriotic thing - which would be to literally exterminate the squids with extreme prejudice as the domestic enemies of the constitution they certainly are. The oligarchs are complete monsters whose evil and wickedness likely even exceeds that of Stalin or Mao. They are capable of absolutely anything. But, that's what happens when "men have forgotten God" - to use the phrase from Solzhenitsyn. Very dark times loom ahead, sad to say.

Anonymous Stilicho August 12, 2012 12:06 AM  

The GOP establishment has figured out that conservative is the new black: just convince them that the other guy is worse for them and they will vote the party line every time--it's the lesser of two evils, you see. Conservatives' votes can be safely taken for granted. Welcome to the plantation.

Anonymous A Visitor August 12, 2012 12:13 AM  

"Not give your consent to the evil Republicans are giving us. I think you greatly underestimate the power in that. Ultimately, as a Christian, I am called to do live truthfully and righteously. That's all I can do. The rest I leave up to God, who is control of all things."

Joel, point taken. He ultimately is in charge.

Robert burns: point taken as well. However, I'm 4F as it is for several reasons. If I was ever sent to war, dear hell...it'd be because we're either at war with the Chinese or because the U.S. itself is being invaded.

I'll remember what you said though. I don't have a crystal bar. I'm sorry you were forced to do that.

Blogger Desert Cat August 12, 2012 1:16 AM  

MInTheGap (@MInTheGap) August 11, 2012 10:10 PM
I think that the GOP reads this blog more than you think. Four years ago Vox stated that if McCain really wanted to with this, he'd pick Palin. This year, his best prediction for Romney was Ryan.


I don't doubt that they do. Years ago Vox got a note from a Rush staffer after he posted some critical comments.

This site makes a good touchstone for the "off the reservation" right and what they/we are thinking...

Blogger Hacked acct. No longer your supporter $1.50 August 12, 2012 1:26 AM  

But doesn't Ryan believe in the gov't spending plus the Austerity Row?

I don't know but I doubt I'm alone in feeling like the GOP is throwing the election and econo doom is ahead...

Electing Mittens won't being jobs back. This cold, cruel lesson will be tough for pro Ryan tea partiers.

Anonymous LiberalAtheist August 12, 2012 1:27 AM  

The Ryan pick doesn't appeal to swing voters -- it's just RW masturbation.

My default mode is pessimism (works well - either I get proven right or get pleasantly surprised), but optimism is becoming unstoppable.

Blogger Jamie-R August 12, 2012 5:36 AM  

Ryan is a good guy. He is like Obama except he doesn't use every black pop cultural American thing he can ever think about to sway voters, because he stands for more than Black America. That's all Obama's for, Black America, paint it, type it, print it, parade it. The guy needs to be pinned for it.

Anonymous Gx1080 August 12, 2012 2:56 PM  

The biggest problem for Romney so far has been that the Repub voter base isn't too hot about him. That's why we saw the slog against Santorum and Gingrich on the primary.

Put Ryan, that is someone that the Repub voter base really wanted, and voila! problem solved.

Rubio is a pick that Dems would have choosen, but they don't get that they are trying to appeal to a different population.

Also, Ryan is easy to sell. "Hey girls is Paul Ryan", despite my suspicion that is a meme that came from a PR department, seems to work.

The other benefit for Ryan is that he puts the frame on the economy, Rubio instead puts it on the Dem's playing field: race.

Frame control, appeal to the tastes of the public, an impression of "being bold". Is basic salesmanship.

On policy, come on. The one-party state has it's agenda. We all know that.

Anonymous HH August 12, 2012 5:15 PM  

Ryan is advocating the third rail -- and whether its right or wrong that's going to turn away a big portion of potential republican votes - seniors. Privatize social security ? My 401k has barely recovered for the last crash -- imagine if all of social security were in the market too, under control of bankers and investment brokers -- no the Captain just gave Obama the next election by picking Ryan...

Blogger James Dixon August 12, 2012 8:32 PM  

> ...then you might have a second thought on the wonders of our Republic. Think Vietnam.

First, and I wish you heard this far more often, you have my appreciation for what you did.

Second, in spite of all his faults, I will be thankful to my dying day to Richard Nixon for getting our people out of there.

Anonymous A Visitor August 13, 2012 12:15 AM  

You have mine, too. I apologize for not having said it in my last comment.

Anonymous scoobius dubious August 13, 2012 1:22 AM  

The iron law of American presidential politics is this: Bugs Bunny always defeats Elmer Fudd. By nominating Ryan, Romney just turned Obama into Elmer Fudd.

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