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posted by VD @ 3/24/2013 02:00:00 PM
I don't where my dear wife heard this song before I did, but she starting singing "I'm gonna pop some tags" while we're in the thrift shop yesterday. Scored some $1 Bible commentaries and some $2 ties undoubtedly from an old man who just died, so all is good.
My daughter, she's spoiled, lives in an uppety neighborhood in sf bay area, goes to an expensive preppy christian private school. She says, "oh I like that song!"Doom.
A delorian? Really???
It's the anti-80's
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We haven't reached East German levels of clothing or smell yet, so there's the upside.
Here's the rock n roll version of the same sentiment:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3xi9lCmj-0Ray wasn't always good; but when he was good, he was good.
It's a song about peacocking, no?
Let's assume that pop culture is a trailing indicator of trends. I would then say that thrift store shopping has become mainstream in the 15-30 demographic. Is this just the logical culmination of the vintage clothing trend or does it reflect the general lack of jobs for that age group? Also, what does this portend for retailers?
One of the few redeeming features about hip-hop is, there's a certain percentage of it (say maybe 10% of it) that's actually quite witty. I like hip-hop best, when I like it at all, if it's clever and funny, which it sometimes is. Tribe, PM Dawn, Schooly, De La, Run-DMC, Eric B and Rakim, hell even Public Enemy on occasion, (and of course the Beasties) were capable of being quite witty and funny, sometimes in a perceptive way, sometimes just Dada. Then of course you had the humorless pricks like Tupac and KRS-One who thought they were delivering something "important" which, besides the unlistenable gangsta style, ruined what was originally a highly amusing style.The thing about this track is, it's not just commentary on the economy, it's having a clever dig at the expensive-bling culture of ostentatious spending that consumes hip-hop culture. I thought it was cute, in a good way.
I would then say that thrift store shopping has become mainstream in the 15-30 demographic.Become? Over here it was the hottest new thing like three years ago.
If you go to any flea market even now, you'll see more teens than any other demographic.
3 years ago?Guys thrift shopping was a big thing when I was in freaking high school... in the freaking early 90s.
My heart weeps for all the third world children manufacturing ridiculously overpriced designer apparel if this trend continues. My hope is that perhaps these companies will start producing clothing in the US so that they can actually justify their absurd price points.
The message is: Black people make everything cooler. Sort of like how the baggy pants thing started out as a big brother's hand-me-downs necessity then became all the rage for PC white kids. same thing for rap. It's wasn't music until team white (producers/distributers/sound engineers) got a hold of it. It was just another rhythmic tribal art form.
When I was in college there was a local thrift store called Clothes by the Pound, where they didn't even put the stuff on racks, it was just in big piles on the floor and you rooted through the piles and then actually weighed your stuff in a great big scale, and paid like a dollar a pound for it. Cheap and effective, but very undignified. I was broke, but I wasn't so broke that I shopped there personally. I was part of an experimental theater troupe at the time (college! if you weren't in an experimental theater troupe or a rock band or a close-harmony singing group, you missed being young!) and we used to by the stuff in order to take it apart and turn it into costumes for our very bizarre performances. So for us it was a lark. But I always saw whole families shopping there for real, which made me rather sad.
Great, "I'm gonna pop some tags" will be the gift that keeps on giving all day. Maybe I will get rid of it by thinking about "My Sharona" instead. There, now you will have a payback song stuck in your head all day Vox.This will be a hit like the EBT song was.
Leftovers of life ... "gently" used.No doubt some may think ... "It is all okay so long as everyone enjoys it with me, then my envy is happy because I know YOU deserve it more than me. I've taken all I can take from you and now we all shop from the same place ... the leftovers of your life bin."I suppose I'm being too morose ... thanks Vox.
"Let's assume that pop culture is a trailing indicator of trends. I would then say that thrift store shopping has become mainstream in the 15-30 demographic. Is this just the logical culmination of the vintage clothing trend or does it reflect the general lack of jobs for that age group?" - GF Dad March 24, 2013 2:49 PM Reported youth unemployment running between 15-25% across the west. <50% college graduates with employment in professional positions. Go past any strip mall in your area and count the number of vacant stores or the number of "lower class" business that are taking over in prime real estate they couldn't afford 5 yrs ago.I think fashion has very little to do with it.
I think fashion has very little to do with it.Fashion is when you do it, AND your peers think it's cool.
"My heart weeps for all the third world children manufacturing ridiculously overpriced designer apparel if this trend continues."Don't feel sorry for them. They're all just gonna move here, you know.
Maybe I will get rid of it by thinking about "My Sharona" instead.Yeah, thanks for that. Now, maybe I can get rid of that by thinking about "Indestructible". There, that's better.
Try Call Me a Hole.
I saw them perform that song on SNL... first time I heard it. It gets in your head. Catchy tune.
Damn! Even Boris Becker is broke?
Nevermind Gary Glitter, here's the new theme for every goal made at NHL games.
Vox, is Macklemore your illegitimate son?
Kinda cool, thumbs up!
There is even cheaper way to have 'new' clothes. I've lost 35lbs. Now I'm wearing my old pants. I'll soon have to make a trip to the Goodwill, those old pants are becoming too big.
Monkey music is intolerable. Couldn't listen to more than 1 minute of that droning. Worse when white guys are doing it. Whites mimicking Africans is just another nail in the coffin of Western Civilization. Absolutely disgusting.
I'm rather surprised that someone who can write A Throne of Bones would describe this garbage as awesome. Hey Vox, there's your music for your next novel - you can have the Orcs jumping around, making ridiculous hand gestures to this kind of mindless crap before all their battles...Gonna rip us some man flesh, yo
Dude looks like Vin Diesel's brother.
I'm with stats79. Dude looks remarkably like Vox.
Come now Anonagain, just because you don't like it doesn't mean its mindless crap.
@scoobius: You can say what you want about Tupac, but you're wrong about KRS-One. Sorry. You're just straight-up wrong. Unless you think that the "stop the violence" movement is GANGSTA, G.
No, Azimus, it's mindless crap (musically) because it is mindless crap.
Speaking of awesome, what I thought was some left-over 45 GAP rounds that I would never be able to use turned out to be 45 ACP.Woo hoo!
No, Azimus, it's mindless crap (musically) because it is mindless crap.Of course it is mindless crap, but Vox's point was that he hit to the economy is going to be awesome. All that money not going into new goods, but rather into recycling. Sustainable living, I think the green crowd call it. The deflation will be awesome.
Come now Anonagain, just because you don't like it doesn't mean its mindless crap.You're right, it doesn't mean that at all.I don't like it because it is mindless crap.
Of course it is mindless crap, but Vox's point was that he hit to the economy is going to be awesome. All that money not going into new goods, but rather into recycling. Sustainable living, I think the green crowd call it. The deflation will be awesome.The message of the video was lost on me. I cannot stomach that garbage.
I haven't paid more than $7 for a piece of clothing in like, forever, and I'm an old fart. My family marvels when - after a compliment on something I'm wearing (Ann Taylor, Talbot, Gap) - I point out it was been worn before by someone else and only cost me $3.50 on the half-price tag color day. Once you've scored that, no way you can stomach even $15. Repurposing and donation, baby, is where it's at.
I don't like it because it is mindless crap.That's a nice circular argument you got there.WATYF
OK Vox, I'll bite. What do you think the socionomic implications are of this song being so popular?WATYF
The Sunday crowd here is so humorless...
That's a nice circular argument you got there.It wasn't supposed to be an argument, it was a correction of the logical flaw in the statement to which I was responding. I'd expound, but you as you obviously failed to grasp the subtlety of the comment, it would be futile to continue.
As usual, white guys are more popular in a black genre than most black rapper.Make of that what you will.
haha... yeah, it's SO obvious that I'm incapable of understanding any argument you might make because I "missed" some supposed subtlety that you employed on an internet post. Don't be a moron.I love people who think they don't even have to bother explaining themselves due to a presumed intellectual superiority. You sound like PZ and Dawkins.Incidentally, I know it wasn't an argument. The subtlety that you missed was that I'm implying that your ultimate reason for thinking it's mindless crap is solely because you don't like it. You haven't stated as much, but I'm guessing that it we really could see in that cloudy little head of yours, that's what we'd find out. So, now that you've missed subtlety that I was employing, am I allowed to unilaterally declare that you aren't capable of understanding any argument I might make in the future? :OpOf course, you could always prove me wrong by explaining WHY it's mindless crap. And try doing it using something other than the skin color of the people who originally popularized this musical genre.WATYF
STFU, WATYFYou're doing a great job of demonstrating that your argument isn't self-referencing. Keep workin' at it, Chuckles.WATYF
man... I just can't get away from typos today. :^DWATYF
Also, wasn't AnonAgain a leftist a week or two ago?I sniff troll.
I sniff troll.Those are your feet.And you are most welcome to show any example of where I've proven to be any kind of Leftist. Not that I care, but it would amuse me to see you try.
"And you are most welcome to show any example of where I've proven to be any kind of Leftist. Not that I care, but it would amuse me to see you try."I wasn't aware this was a dick measuring contest. I can barely even find any Anonagain's anyways, and if I got the wrong Anon-whatever, then I was wrong.So what? I'm not the one who chose to use Anon-anything.
Anyways, I was sensitive to seeing that because I vaguely remember someone on Heartiste who started off ripping into Heartiste and the members of that comment section's views on race, and then a few posts later started playing the role of the over the top racist.Since I haven't found any evidence of you doing that, I was wrong. Not the first nor the last time.
One of the few redeeming features about hip-hop is, there's a certain percentage of it (say maybe 10% of it) that's actually quite witty.Scoob, you just restated Sturgeon's Law (down to the actual percentage). 90% of everything is crap.
Scoob, you just restated Sturgeon's LawSeriously... most hip hop is crap, but so is most pop and most country and most metal and most rock (and so on).I liked this song from the first time I heard it. Great hooks. Nice lyrical pacing. The video is rather funny as well.WATYF
I use the thrift store to get larger t-shirts and Hawaiian shirts for concealed carry.
I use the thrift store to get larger t-shirts and Hawaiian shirts for concealed carry.Has Nanny Bloomberg outlawed Hawaiian shirts too? You have to conceal carry your Hilo Hatties?
Shhhhhhhh.... Somewone's gewting awwwfully cwose to becowming an Agent Awsher on thiws thwead. It's awwwwwllll abowt thewm.
It may not be a hoity-toity, high falutin, wine and cheese, tuxedo and top hat, "movement in D minor" but I know what I like and gosh darn it, I like that song!
Nelson-I use the thrift store to get...Hawaiian shirts for concealed carry.I did have "I'm gonna pop some tags" stuck in my head. Now I have the Magnum P.I. theme there. Thanks.
It has a nice beat, Dick and you can dance to it! I'd give it a 9!! (American Band Stand, 1963)Actually, I've hit thrift shops before, especially those run by the country club ladies charity groups. Sometimes, I find nice stuff for next to nothing. Dig the vid.
Yeah, thanks for that. Now, maybe I can get rid of that by thinking about "Indestructible". There, that's better.This is the all-time world-beater for getting any song out of your head.
But at what cost, Stickwick? At what cost?
I think Dave said it much better. That was 20+ years ago. Most of the kids in the other video, weren't even born yet. Yes, we did have much better music 20 years ago, that is in totality. Still today, there are some gems.Dave, making use of the Debt Clock, that $660 trillion is now $1.5 QUADRILLION! Yes, the entire planet has gone completely and utterly -- stupid...
Thrift stores are a reality. And a good one. We need an economy ordered around durable manufacture of goods, that are used by the original purchaser has expended it's useful life, and then recycled as many times down the economic ladder until there is no further useful life, at which point it is stripped for raw materials to be used for new production.It is the opposite of the economy we have now. And each step along these lines (like young people glorifying thrift shops, or buying serviceable cars that are 10-20 years old) is a positive step towards a better, more "thrifty" economy. What we need a lot less of are spoiled kids spending disposable income on Porshe 911's and martial arts lessons and then lecturing everyone about economics.
@Stickwick March 24, 2013 10:36 PMThis is the kind of thing one wants to see on the Gong Show. First question would be, would he get Gonged? Second question, would anyone on the set know who Europe was?Uh huh then... So he was on AOTS. The show is defunct now. No one better than Kevin and Olivia...
This is the all-time world-beater for getting any song out of your head.The kid's got chili...some kind of odd mystery meat chili, but chili nonetheless.
scoobius dubious March 24, 2013 2:58 PMA newfound respect, in one comment, from a longtime lurker, seldeom commenter.I rhyme from state to state, followers tailgate, keep comin' butcha came too late, but I'll wait... so back up ya group get a grip, come equipped -- you're the next contestant, clap ya hands, you won a trip / The price is right, don't make a deal too soon; how many notes, could ya name this tune.... Follow the Leader is the title, theme, task... Now you know, you don't have to ask, Rap is rhythm and poetry, cuts create sound effects, Ya might catch up if you follow the records he wrecksUntil then keep eating and swallowingYou better take a deep breath and keep Followin' the Leader.----Bass is essential, dig?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95gP3m-uBHA
^^^@1:48Call da amber lamps!!!!
I'm telling you, when it first started I thought it was Vox singing, with dyed hair and all!
"you're wrong about KRS-One. Sorry. You're just straight-up wrong. Unless you think that the "stop the violence" movement is GANGSTA, G."I didn't mean K was gangsta, I meant he was humorless. But then I don't know his work all that well, got turned off fairly quickly, perhaps I'm wrong. But most of the early hip-hop greats could draw a chuckle out of me fairly quickly, they were not only verbally witty but also musically witty. If I listened to only half a dozen tracks of K and didn't laugh once, I thought it boded ill. The first time I heard "Straight Outta Compton" I thought, well it was nice while it lasted, but apparently it's over. With rare exceptions, I think I was right.
Taqqiyotomist --anybody who calls something "Eric B. Is President" has already won me over before they even say anything. (When I was a kid, I bought the Talking Heads record "Fear of Music" without knowing anything about them, just because I thought with a title that brilliant, it HAS to be good. And it was!) But "thought I was a doughnut, ya tried to glaze me" gets somebody their lifetime membership card in the Ancient and Honorable Order, with just one line.And fish really IS my favorite dish...
@scoobius Well, you're welcome to judge an entire genre on whether or not the lyrics are jokes, but that seems extremely limited and limiting. There's more to wit than humor. Besides, KRS-One isn't humorless - I've seen some funny interviews with him. He's just got a message with his music, which is more than I can say for most musicians.
My brother tells me that listening to this makes me a hipster.So most of us are damn hipsters.So I'll blast my brother with hipster music.
The production quality sucks, but the Schadenfreude is wonderful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RhQsRKsU0M
dh: Thrift stores are a reality.
"you're welcome to judge an entire genre on whether or not the lyrics are jokes, but that seems extremely limited and limiting. There's more to wit than humor."Who said otherwise? I said that those guys were witty, (and often in a Cubist/juxtapositional sort of way), not that they were telling jokes (although sometimes they did, especially Schooly D, whose jokes I think were sometimes unintentional).This is witty, despite not having any "jokes" in it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wfKFXXlG4ULike a great man once said, "If you got ears, you gotta listen."Or as another unintentionally great man once said,You seekers of the truthAccepting that reasons will re-liveAnd breathe and hope and chase and loveFor you and you and you.
For some people, thrift store shopping is not the latest hipster fad, but a method of survival with style. A frayed bourgeois need not wear Wal-Mart. Once can dress well on a ridiculously low budget if one is willing to learn a systematic approach to thrift store shopping for men.
Stickwick, that was HILARIOUS. I laughed so hard it scared the dog!
You know, that song is kinda catchy.
Nate March 24, 2013 3:07 PM 3 years ago? Guys thrift shopping was a big thing when I was in freaking high school... in the freaking early 90s.And long before:"She wore a raspberry beret,The kind you find in a second-hand store".
The place referred to in the song was called Ragstock, and in the Twin Cities in the early eighties it was definitely the bohemian place to shop, long long before Goodwill went hip.
The hook is great. Every person who can't get that song out of their heads... really can't get the hook out of their heads-- the rest is easily forgotten. There's something about white things being made into a more black and cool style and then turned around and sold to whites as ultra-cool. The hook is sung not by the artist but by a deeper black voice and that makes all the difference. The saying "this is fucking awesome" is almost exclusively a white saying. Even considering the black college guys with cool hair the percentage of blacks who say "awesome" or "fucking awesome" is probably point-zero-something. If the white singer sang that hook it would sound nerdy.And it's whites who think going retro at a thrift store is cool. Blacks are more interested in labels and matching colors and most would make fun of fellow blacks who would try that stuff. The young ones anyway.So take all the white, make it black, sell it back to the white. Reminds me of the Rolling Stones.
Prices at thrift stores have been rocketing upward lately, according to my inveterate second-hand shopping spouse, Daisycat. Downside to being "cool".
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