Tuesday, July 23, 2013

Ignorance of the law

Is no excuse for looking like a moron.  Instapundit wonders what the vibrant ignorati posturing publicly about Florida law will do when they realize that Florida is not the only state in question here:
WHAT WILL THEY DO WHEN THEY FIND OUT THAT CALIFORNIA, MASSACHUSETTS AND PENNSYLVANIA HAVE STAND-YOUR-GROUND LAWS, TOO? Some of the music industry’s biggest acts are joining Stevie Wonder in boycotting Florida over the state’s controversial “stand your ground” law. UPDATE: Illinois has “Stand Your Ground” Too — And Obama Voted For It. Will they boycott White House performances? Dumbasses.
Tomato, tomahto....  Stevie Wonder declares: "I decided today that until the 'stand your ground' law is abolished in Florida, I will never perform there again," he said. "As a matter of fact, wherever I find that law exists, I will not perform in that state or in that part of the world."

From Wikipedia: "Many states have some form of stand-your-ground law. Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming."

Blindness isn't merely a physical phenomenon. It should be amusing to see how quickly Mr. Wonder backs down once he realizes he just effectively ended his career outside the recording studio.

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Anonymous Despair July 23, 2013 1:01 PM  

Mr. Blind Has Been is just tryin to get some free publicity IMHO.

Anonymous Idle Spectator July 23, 2013 1:02 PM  

I once was blind, but now I can see.

Anonymous Daniel July 23, 2013 1:05 PM  

Isn't Stand Your Ground the long-standing default? "Duty to Retreat" is the latecoming innovation. What they should do is vow to only perform in Duty to Retreat districts.

So, elementary schools and McRapey's house.

Anonymous JW July 23, 2013 1:05 PM  

They don't (can't?) think anything through. They just go by what sounds good.

Anonymous MikeH July 23, 2013 1:10 PM  

The reason Florida SYG was such an issue here is that it provided a liability shield unless and until GZ was arrested. Without that SYG shield, the grieviance suits couldn't get off the ground. The SYG had nothing to do with broadening self-defense as applied by GZ to TM.

Blogger FALPhil July 23, 2013 1:12 PM  

Who's Stevie Wonder?

Anonymous Daniel July 23, 2013 1:14 PM  

35 years ago, Stevie Wonder could have been Trayvon Martin, punching the statue of the Spirit of Detroit for seeming like it might be a gay rapist.

Anonymous Daniel July 23, 2013 1:15 PM  

He just effectively ended his career outside the recording studio.

He's mostly performing in Rio this year, where no black people ever get shot while committing assault.

Anonymous Idle Spectator July 23, 2013 1:19 PM  

"Duty to Retreat" is the latecoming innovation

I miss the old days when you could just shoot them in the face.

Dirty Harry tells the mayor his policy

"I think he's got a point."

Anonymous bob k. mando July 23, 2013 1:20 PM  

Wonder is 63 and seriously handicapped. it's unlikely he's got a whole lot of extensive touring in his future.

in fact, his 'touring schedule' of late has been so sparse that it appears that wiki can list most of the appearances over the last 10 years with little difficulty:

and he'd been on hiatus for the 10 years before that ...

which is a roundabout way of saying, "Let me know when a musician anyone cares about starts boycotting."

Anonymous Will Best July 23, 2013 1:24 PM  

Meh, looks like he could go pitch a tent in Vegas or Atlantic City.

There was that black man that shot and killed a white "youth" in New York not too long ago and he was convicted but got a pardon due to self defense for claiming he was lunged at and I thought that was weird because NY is a duty to flee state which he clearly didn't fulfill but apparently these sorts of things get graded on a curve.

Anonymous Anonymous July 23, 2013 1:25 PM  

Aren't most of Stevie Wonder's fans white? I just don't see a lot of black folks jamming to "Dancing on the Ceiling"...

- Azimus

Anonymous Rusty July 23, 2013 1:26 PM  

Stevie Wonder is still alive? When's the last time he released an album anyway, 1987?

Anonymous Fred July 23, 2013 1:26 PM  

The creative mind does not necessarily equal the logical mind.

Anonymous Move Zig July 23, 2013 1:27 PM  

Stevie Wonder is the only Black artist to threaten a boycott on Florida?
What about Beyonce and all those hip hop and rap artists...they not going to participate in boycott? If not, why not?

Anonymous fish July 23, 2013 1:31 PM  

Aren't most of Stevie Wonder's fans white? I just don't see a lot of black folks jamming to "Dancing on the Ceiling"...

- Azimus

Stevie Wonder?

Anonymous Clayton Bigsby July 23, 2013 1:32 PM  

Shhhh. Stevie thinks he's white.

Anonymous CarpeOro July 23, 2013 1:35 PM  

I think he was being sarcastic. Lionel Richie did "Dancing on the Ceiling". For that mater, Stevie hasn't produced anything worth listening to since he did a duo with Paul McCartney.

Anonymous FantasticSprite July 23, 2013 1:36 PM  

What do leftists expect a person to do if attacked? Run? Cower? Beg? All of these things are non-Alpha responses to an Alpha thug.

The correct response, regardless of the legal consequences involved, is to fight back. If no chance of victory exists, fleeing is the next best thing, sure, but it is not the preferred option. Typically that only emboldens the enemy.

The end result will eventually be a nation of Alpha thugs, ruling over piddling Gamma virgins.

Anonymous Anonymous July 23, 2013 1:40 PM  

@ fish

Well sh*t. Same MO for Lionel Richie - black guy white fans. Replace "Dancing on the ceiling" wiith "For once in my life".

- Azimus

Blogger Old Rebel July 23, 2013 1:42 PM  

To be consistent, Li'l Stevie should prohibit sales of his albums in those states, too.

Anonymous JCB July 23, 2013 1:43 PM  

"Dancing on the Ceiling" is a Lionel Ritchie track. "Superstition" is probably what you were aiming for.

Anonymous T July 23, 2013 1:44 PM  

"It should be amusing to see how quickly Mr. Wonder backs down once he realizes he just effectively ended his career outside the recording studio."


A) YOu expect "low-info" voters to give a shit?

B) Stevie wonder currently has career inside or outside the recording studio?

Anonymous Garrett July 23, 2013 1:47 PM  

OT, but still...

Anonymous CunningDove July 23, 2013 1:50 PM  

Move Zig July 23, 2013 1:27 PM
Stevie Wonder is the only Black artist to threaten a boycott on Florida? What about Beyonce and all those hip hop and rap artists...they not going to participate in boycott? If not, why not?

From what I understand, Flo-Rida is boycotting. News reporters have not confirmed if he has chosen a new name yet. But if Illinois also has a SYG provision, then the recommended Ill-Noise is not an option either.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 23, 2013 1:58 PM  



Would someone please tell him that we in Texas have SYG laws and then some? For example, from sundown to sunup, we can shoot to protect property, even, outside the home. That is why car repossessions are not done in the dark or alone. Or, at least, it is not smart to do so.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 23, 2013 2:00 PM  

BTW, ebony and ivory is just an annoying song to me. I am happy to live at peace with all, inasmuch as it is possible.

Anonymous bob k. mando July 23, 2013 2:05 PM  

NSA offtopic, the NSA avoids complying with FOIA requests through the simple expediency of making sure that it's internal email system is so antiquated that 'it can't be searched':

effectiveness of excuse dependent on your gullibility.

Blogger Unknown July 23, 2013 2:07 PM  

It should be a five dollar mail-in fine for shooting someone playing their music too loud. Maybe pants down around your ankles. Or asking for money. Or...let them think some more.

Anonymous righteous gobbler July 23, 2013 2:09 PM  

Isn't Stevie Wonder that black dude that grins, wears dark glasses, and sways his head around?

No wait, it's that Eddie Murphy guy.

Stevie Wonder; the name does ring a bell tho.

Blogger RobertT July 23, 2013 2:13 PM  

Isn't this the same guy that used to be popular a long time ago? Or is this a new whack job? Either way, who really gives a sh*t? He's just attention whore trying to grab the spotlight.

Blogger RobertT July 23, 2013 2:14 PM  

Why do I wait until i post it to read it?

Anonymous NateM July 23, 2013 2:21 PM  

Stevie also performed the musical abortion that is "I just called to say I love you"

On the list of boycotting artist I saw I counted at least 3 who Live in Florida. One wonders when they plan on moving.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 23, 2013 2:23 PM  

...apparently these sorts of things get graded on a curve.

And "Straight, White Male" is the hardest difficulty setting.

"White" of course being apparently relative, with Asians and, now, Teutonicly named pardos like Jorge Zimmerman qualifying.

This whole affair is yet another clarifying element. It's inevitable whenever some group sets out to build a power base off of a spoils system, if they are at all successful they eventually lose control of their backers. Like Fever Ray says in If I Had a Heart (the theme song to Vikings), this will never end because I want more. More, give me more, give me more.

Paying the Danegeld only brings more Danes than even their Jarls can control, regardless of their hair color.

Well, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

Anonymous Salt July 23, 2013 2:26 PM  

Here's a list of the boycotts. Needs a few actors on there too.

There may yet be a glimmer of hope. /s

Anonymous rubbermallet July 23, 2013 2:32 PM  

how would he know where he was performing.

"this whole not playing in florida has been working pretty well"

"we just did 3 stops in florida last week"


Anonymous Noah B. July 23, 2013 2:38 PM  

"It should be amusing to see how quickly Mr. Wonder backs down once he realizes he just effectively ended his career outside the recording studio."

Huh. I thought he died freebasing or something.

Blogger Penrose July 23, 2013 2:42 PM  

He's going to boycott a state? I can't see how that will work. Then again I bet Stevie Wonder can't see it either.

Blogger Ephrem Antony Gray July 23, 2013 2:50 PM  

They can just take him to those venues and tell him it's a big studio audience. Not to rag too heavily on the dude, but as a blind man, he will likely have difficulty telling the difference.

"Are you sure we're not in Florida?"

"We just turned on some humidifiers for the Authentic Florida Experience(tm)."

Anonymous fish July 23, 2013 2:58 PM  

@ fish

Well sh*t. Same MO for Lionel Richie - black guy white fans. Replace "Dancing on the ceiling" wiith "For once in my life".

- Azimus sarcasmeter must be busted!

Anonymous Van July 23, 2013 3:00 PM  

Every morning, Stevie Wonder's entourage wakes him and tells him it's time to check out of the hotel, and his limo is ready. They guide him to the elevator in his home, and walk him out to his driveway to a waiting Chevy Malibu. During the process, several entourage members whisper, "look, it's Stevie Wonder!" And occasionally ask for an autograph.

Wonder is told he'll be taken directly to the airport, and is driven to a nearby shopping mall, where his entourage prevents anyone from coming near while calling attention so he'll be recognized. He is taken to his plane, which is actually an 18-wheeler with several rows of seats set up in the trailer. After Wonder has boarded, the rig is driven around the interstate for several hours.

He is then driven home, where he performs on a small stage in the backyard to recorded audience noise. After, he is returned to his limo, driven around the block a few times, and returned home to check in to the hotel.

His handlers have promised him that all scheduled events in "Florida" have been cancelled, and were immediately replaced with other stops.

Blogger AdognamedOp July 23, 2013 3:06 PM  

What's black and screams really loud?

Stevie Wonder answering the iron.. :P

Blogger Doom July 23, 2013 3:10 PM  

He still has a career? I, personally, hope he keeps his word in any case. He is black, he is obviously "liberal", no reason to expect his word means anything, but one can hope.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother July 23, 2013 3:11 PM  

That used to be a Helen Keller joke.

Anonymous DonReynolds July 23, 2013 3:18 PM  

Arkansas and North Carolina are the only two Southern states that did not make the list of Stand Your Ground law states. In Arkansas, it is not necessary because you could not seat a jury that would convict anyone of defending themselves with a firearm.

But my question is.....Is there a petition or list we can sign, even though we do not actually have a Stand Your Ground law, that would keep Stevie Wonder from performing in our state? That would be a more practical form of relief.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope July 23, 2013 3:39 PM  

He performed in a private concert once at my former employer.
They told us before hand that the "artist" didn't allow photographs to be taken.

I have always wondered how he would know if a camera was pointed his way or not.


Anonymous hsu July 23, 2013 3:55 PM  

The wikipedia page you are referencing is just plain wrong.

Here's a better wiki page, with actual reference links to state laws that can be used to determine accuracy.

Anonymous hsu July 23, 2013 3:57 PM  

Note that the wiki page I linked to, while titled "Castle Doctrine" tries to differentiate "Stand Your Ground" states vs "Castle Doctrine" only states vs states with no recognition of either.

Anonymous willneverpostagain July 23, 2013 4:01 PM  

Have you ever seen Stevie Wonder's children?

Neither has he.

Anonymous WaterBoy July 23, 2013 4:01 PM  

"Stevie Wonder declares: "I decided today that until the 'stand your ground' law is abolished in Florida, I will never perform there again," he said. "As a matter of fact, wherever I find that law exists, I will not perform in that state or in that part of the world.""

TL;DR: Stevie Wonder Announces Retirement

Anonymous Ferd July 23, 2013 4:25 PM  


Thanks for the belly laugh!

I chuckled all morning!

Blogger tz July 23, 2013 4:55 PM  

It reminds me the thoughts of boycotts over not making MLKjr day a state holiday (AZ), or some gay marriage or other issue.

Pity we can't repeal STG when it comes to the police.

And somehow falling on your back and having your head pounded into the ground while screaming for help when someone won't stop doesn't seem like "stand your ground".

The point Obama refused to address is if he owned a store he would follow a black teen. And Michelle would probably clutch her purse closer if there was a teen and she forgot about the SS Phalanx assigned to her.

There was an earlier incident of profiling, now nearly forgotten about a professor that lost his keys and the police came in and arrested him in his own house (do we apply the Castle doctrine or not?). Obama got involved. Perhaps it was because it was Cop v.s. Citizen that I sided with the citizen, even though he was black.

But Trayvon's parents - like most - won't accept that if they didn't let their son run wild - and small wildings tend to grow - he would be alive today.

But racism is real, if you want a conservative but black perspective, read (or do the audio of) My Grandfather's Son by Justice Clarence Thomas. That was real racism, Jim Crow, and the rest. And note how liberals reacted (and how they turned a blind eye to white Billy Jeff so he could be president). Anita Hill complained about things that would not have gotten Thomas expelled from WisCon, much less the SFWA. Billy Jeff did criminal acts.

The world has truly gone mad, to a point even Chesterton would not have suspected.

Anonymous Desiderius July 23, 2013 5:16 PM  

Stevie's still a true believer.

Most young blacks know that their shit has resumed stinking (and may be ignorant of the fact that when Stevie started believing, that which he believed in was largely the real deal - MLK was successful because he appealed to a much sounder set of values than do today's Progs), but will keep up the con as long as the Danegeld keeps flowing.

Those signing the checks may be having second thoughts, however. We'll see.

Anonymous Desiderius July 23, 2013 5:19 PM  

"The world has truly gone mad, to a point even Chesterton would not have suspected."

The world has always been mad in this particular way. There are always those with an eye out for the main chance.

The only thing that has changed is the players, and the willingness of the sane to transcend it and/or counter it.

Blogger Thought Criminal July 23, 2013 6:59 PM  

from Larry Correia's blog:

"I’m so big and ugly that if I got into an elevator with Barack Obama he’d hold his breath and clutch his purse."

Anonymous Roundtine July 23, 2013 9:01 PM  

Did anyone listen to Radio Derb this week, in which he discussed life under Jim Snow?
A Slow News Week

I don't know where he found the stats, but he says that blacks use SYG more often in Florida and that blacks are more successful than whites in court when using the SYG defense. It makes perfect sense that blacks would use SYG more because the black crime rate makes blacks far more likely to be victimized. It follows that the appropriate factual spin would be to call SYG a "pro-black" law that any black hating racist should work to repeal.

Anonymous Susan July 23, 2013 9:32 PM  

Nobody's boycotting because with the popularity of downloading iTunes, people don't really need to buy CD's anymore. So the money is made the old fashioned way; touring.

No musician is going to short change his wallet to follow Mr. Not so Wonderful in his boycott.

Anonymous p-dawg July 23, 2013 10:08 PM  

They're not going to publicly back down, of course. They'll just schedule performances in non-Florida stand-your-ground states for a while and then there will be a big Miami concert and no one will remember who isn't supposed to be there. That's my prediction, anyway.

Anonymous wcu July 23, 2013 11:18 PM  

I think stevie was a grand wizard for the kkk in florida in the 1960s.

Anonymous ericcs July 24, 2013 8:19 AM  

Lil' Stevie Wonder never really created songs so much as he instead penned ditties, the kind that are repetitious, banal, and suitable only for background on commercials.

BTW, from here on out expect progressive judges everywhere to start undercutting SYG, one legal ruling at a time. The word is out, and the fix is in.

Anonymous TD July 24, 2013 9:23 AM  

>>> Michigan,

Wait -- he's never going to play Detroit again? Stevie Wonder, of all people, is boycotting Motown??

I'm not sure he realizes what he's gotten himself into here.

Anonymous TD July 24, 2013 9:29 AM  

To respond to the poster(s) above comparing Stevie Wonder to Lionel Richie: Not even close. Wonder still has plenty of cred in the black community. And in the bigger scheme of things, he's widely considered one of the most important musicians of the past half-century.

Which makes this whole goofy Stand Your Ground "boycott" that much more goofy.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist July 24, 2013 12:42 PM  

1974 - Parliament releases "Chocolate City"

Google the lyrics. What's hap'nin', blood?

1975 Stevie Wonder releases "You Haven't Done Nothin'"

Same vibe. This sick crap started in '68 or so. Color of skin OVER content of character, coupled with celebration of low character equals Detroit today. Many, many, many other cities tomorrow. Detroit is just the first to win that Alinsky race to the bottom.

Dewey From Detroit has a compilation of posts that tell it like it is. This is his latest, but at the bottom, a list of his previous posts on this insanity.

Google Images, sometime, the word "Detroit". Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the immediate nuclear aftermath look slightly better in photographs than Detroit today.

Blogger James Dixon July 24, 2013 6:53 PM  

> And in the bigger scheme of things, he's widely considered one of the most important musicians of the past half-century.

Widely? I wouldn't go that far. By some people, yes.

Anonymous Anonymous July 25, 2013 12:33 AM  

I am getting really tired of Obama's deliberately vague statements that do not specically make the point he is trying to get across (so as to avoid being immediately called out for the factual and logical errors on that point, but instead leave it to the majority of his listeners to 'fill in the blanks' of what he said in order to arrive at a predetermined (but factually and logically erroneous) conclusion based on the emotional and politically correct indoctrination most Americans have been subjected to for the past 100 years or so.

Case in point, his statement that went something along the lines of "Trayvon Martin could have been me, 35 years ago". The line of reasoning he wants most people to engage in, based on this statement is something rather like: "Trayvon Martin is a young black male. I was a young black male, 35 years ago. I was not (supposedly) a criminal. Therefore, Trayvon Martin is not a criminal. Therefore, he was shot for no other reason than racism, therefore I could have been shot for no reason other than racism."

I'm sure you can see the several logical and factual errors in this, which Obama avoids being called out on, by making a deliberately vague, emotional statment, and leaving the inevitable (given their previous indoctrination) errors in facts and logic to his audience.

About the only 'fact' to be actually derived from Obama's statement is that he happens to somewhat physically resemble Trayvon Martin. To which my reaction is: "So what?" Charlie Chaplin happened to somewhat physically resemble Adolf Hitler. If I were to subscribe to Obama's brand of reasoning, should I then conclude that either Charlie Chaplin should be tried for war crimes, or that Hitler should go in for stand-up comedy?

Anonymous Anonymous July 25, 2013 1:00 AM  

Another thing: Admittedly, you may be in more danger of a worse response (either on the part of your intended victim, or the judicial system) to an attempted or successful crime, if you happen to belong to a certain race. The best way to deal with this, is to refrain from committing crimes. Standing on your supposed 'rights' under certain circumstances, such as your 'right not to be shot, just because I was stealing stuff and breaking windows and he be racist against me, because he wouldn't have shot me if I was white and done that' is rather like standing on your 'rights' and insisting on driving a compact car into an intersection at the same time as a semi truck, because you had the 'right of way'. I'm sure the fact that you had the right of way will be a great comfort to your family, your insurance company, and your mortician.

It's also the exact opposite of what I was taught in truck driving school. When you drive an 18 wheeler, you don't get into arguments with others on the road, regardless of their having started it and your being 'right'. If some asshole in a car starts bothering you, the correct thing to do is to get off on the next exit, wait a minute, then get back on the highway, and you will never see them again. (although my truck driving instructor did say that I could write them down in my book of personal insults against me later, if I felt the need to).

Anonymous David of One July 27, 2013 1:59 PM  

For those still tracking the developments since the end of the trial ...

The intentional editing to effect different statements or even the context of statements should be fiercely fought and punished. There has to be a way to keep the media accountable while ensuring the continued constitutional freedom and autonomy of the press. To one degree or another the "media" doesn't really seem all that interested constitutional freedoms nor unrestricted autonomy.

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