Friday, August 23, 2013

Vet killed by Vibrant America

What presently passes for the USA is observably no longer the nation for which Mr. Belton fought:
WWII veteran Delbert Belton survived being wounded in action during the Battle of Okinawa only to be beaten and left for dead by two teens at the Eagles Lodge in Spokane on Wednesday evening. Belton, 88, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning at Sacred Heart Medical Center.

Witnesses say Belton was in the parking lot of the Eagles Lodge at 6410 N. Lidgerwood, adjacent to the Eagles Ice-A-Rena, around 8 p.m. Wednesday when the two male suspects attacked him as he was about to head inside to play pool.

Spokane police are looking for two male suspects in the attack. They said the suspects are African Americans between 16 and 19 years old. One suspect was described as heavy set and wearing all black clothing. The other was described as being about 6 feet tall and 150 pounds.
It increasingly appears as if the two choices facing America are peaceful segregation or ethnic violence and civil war.  Contra the expectations of the multicultis and the anti-racists, the vibrant community is becoming less civilized as they become more numerous.  The civil rights vision has failed and appeasement clearly works no better with vibrants than it did with Nazis.

Those who babble interminably about racism and equality are no more relevant to the practical discussion of what should be done than the disarmament activists were after the invasion of Czechoslovakia.  Let reason be silent when experience gainsays its conclusions. No one needs to understand what inspires young vibrants to commit these acts of unprovoked and murderous violence in order to render it impossible for them to do so in the future.

The only real question is how much of this violence white, Hispanic, and Asian Americans are willing to tolerate before they finally put an end to it. It is observably worse than it was in 2009, when it was reported "Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa.... Forty-five percent of black crime is against whites, 43 against other blacks, and 10 percent against Hispanic."

Is it possible that I am wrong and contra both my observations and historical patterns that can be observed throughout the entire written record of Man, the USA is not going to be riven by ethnic strife, but is instead on the verge of transforming itself into a glorious and peaceful multi-ethnic utopia?  Theoretically, I suppose.  But the probabilities of such an outcome are not high.



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Blogger Tom Kratman August 23, 2013 11:02 PM  

We used to have Zulu parties in the 193rd, where all the lieutenants would get stinking, blind, paralytic, ossified, shitfaced, watch Zulu and Zulu Dawn, back to back, cheering impartially for both sides and singing any number of war songs, in various languages. It was great fun.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 23, 2013 11:03 PM  

It appears the vibrant Mr. Obama is determined to involve this country in yet another war in the Middle East (Syria)....again.... without Congressional approval. I do hope they nail his ass to the floorboards on that one but I have little reason to believe they will. Maybe when US ground troops begin to engage Russian Federation units in Syria, somebody will bother to consult with Congress.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 23, 2013 11:09 PM  

Don't sweat the Russkis. They don't really have the logistic wherewithal for a major overseas expedition. On the other hand, we've been so busy with counterinsurgency that we're really not fit for mid-high intensity war anymore and won't be for some years.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 23, 2013 11:22 PM  

Perhaps not Tom, but Syria is not an overseas expedition for the Russians, it is close to their own border and Russian units are already there in Syria.

I agree, a major ground war is not likely for either side. (Our equipment is scattered from Iraq to Afganistan and a bit worn, as you would agree.) But I am concerned that neither side is going to be able to avoid air operations, even if they are restrained....and where the Devil are those 400 missing Stinger weapons from Benghazi? I am betting they did not fall into friendly hands.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 23, 2013 11:27 PM  

It's still overseas. Once you have to depend on Air because you have no rail line and the enemy controls the sea, military operations get very difficult. The Russians aren't as lavish loggies as we are, in terms of troop needs, but even so there's a lot of gas, ammunition and parts required. We, conversely, can command the sea and use Israel.

I'd be more concerned first about the whens and whats of the "Stingers." Were they provided to the rebels by us? Were they old Gaddafi stocks bought from the Russkis and mislabeled "stingers"? How had they been stored all this time?

Even Stingers, which are arguably the best of the MANPADS lot, really aren't all that good. You would be surprised.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 23, 2013 11:55 PM  

Surprise is my normal condition, especially when it comes to military affairs.

Halfway between the Russian oil city of Baku and Syria is the Iranian city of Tabriz. Iran is only a hundred miles from Syrian territory, separated only by Kurdi tribesmen. There is always the possibility of other people sharing my "surprised look". The Syrians and Iranians are allied with Putin. I would be double surprised if Putin and the Iranians let the US attempt an invasion of Syria. (Would be a major blow to Russian credibility.) If the Israelis decide to chime in, then all bets are off.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 24, 2013 12:02 AM  

I met an old guy about ten years ago, who was a railroad man during WWII. He was sent to Iran under the Lend-Lease program to coordinate the offloading of whole trains, including locomotives, in Iran which were sent by rail to the Soviet Union. Of course, none were returned, but it does suggest that the rail line from Iran to Russia is an old one and probably improved in the past sixty years.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 24, 2013 12:14 AM  

Defense Department comes to a surprising conclusion.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 24, 2013 12:21 AM  

No common border between Syria and Iran, Don, as I think you noticed, so I wouldn't expect much from that route. Nor are the roads much. And we still exercise sufficient control - though only optional control to be sure - over Iraq and especially northern Iraq that little or nothing's going through there.

And Putin cannot risk a military defeat.

But I wouldn't sweat it generally. Obama's not looking for another international humiliation either.

Blogger Jordan179 August 24, 2013 1:22 AM  

So what is the solution in your opinion? I don't think it makes a difference to know what the exact motivations of such blacks.

End affirmative action, make welfare conditional on looking for work, and in the case of minors having babies, have any WIC type support go through the grandparents, so that it's not the fast route to a personal welfare check. Oh, and whites need to stop making excuses for blacks acting badly -- such excuses are a form of anti-black racism, and one that on the historical evidence seems to be more destructive than outright segregation and disenfranchisement.

What, you thought I was in favor of the white liberal policies towards blacks? Hell no!

Blogger Jordan179 August 24, 2013 1:35 AM  

Tom Kratman said:

After all, the black family survived slavery reasonably well for 3 centuries or so. It did not survive 3 decades of liberalism over quite wide swaths.

Indeed. What made matters worse is that the New Left projected their own fantasies of liberation from bourgeoisie norms onto the blacks, and encouraged and even subsidized them to behave in the most horribly self-destructive ways. I could show you articles and books from the 1960's and 1970's that go on and on about how drug abuse, promiscuity, and rampant criminality were proofs of black virtues and should be encouraged.

Not only did the rich New Leftists slumming in the ghetto during the 1960's and 1970's do their best to aid black groups manifesting such behavior, but as they got into positions of power in the 1970's through 1990's, they did their best to put this into social policy studies and practice.

The consequences of this developed in a manner not entirely favorable to black culture, to paraphrase Hirohito regarding WWII in 1945.

Anonymous Robert in Arabia August 24, 2013 1:39 AM  

Do you think 12 year old Autumn Pasquale was rude or mean before she was strangled to death and dumped in a recycle bin?

"Understanding is good. But some times it is better to carry a revolver." Eric Ambler

Anonymous Mr. Pea August 24, 2013 1:51 AM  

See Article 1, Section 8: Clause 17

Simple and straightforward.

And remember that Jefferson admitted to usurping the constitution when he purchased the Louisiana Territory.

Anonymous Grinder August 24, 2013 3:08 AM  

I am in favour of peace and racial segregation with the specific condition of an all-white North America.

By what right do you claim North America rather than, say, Europe?

The right of the strongest & Natural Law. The strength and superiority of the white race will allow us to take possession and hold it. If we are unable to do so then we do not deserve to possess it. God will not intervene if we are weak. We will be allowed to perish just like the paleo-caucasoids who inhabited North America before being exterminated by later mongoloid migrants who crossed from Asia. Europe and Australia belong to the white race as well for the same reasons and God will be equally silent if whites lose their hold over those lands as well.

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Tragic, horrific and predictive of times to come.

Anonymous Sigyn August 24, 2013 6:46 AM  

The right of the strongest & Natural Law.

By this you mean, "right of conquest"?

The strength and superiority of the white race will allow us to take possession and hold it. If we are unable to do so then we do not deserve to possess it.

Is it therefore fair to say that those lands the whites don't hold, or have lost, are no longer deserved by whites and whites have no legitimate claim to them? Or are you asserting that the current crop of whites is weak and inferior and doesn't count?

God will not intervene if we are weak.

Why do you bring this up?

We will be allowed to perish just like the paleo-caucasoids who inhabited North America before being exterminated by later mongoloid migrants who crossed from Asia.

So your notion is that it's kill or die on the entire continent, is that correct?

Anonymous Agelaius August 24, 2013 7:18 AM  

And you project your own fantasies on minorities.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 24, 2013 9:48 AM  

Notwithstanding the nitpickers in the room, nobody is making any more land and the location, resources and climate of each parcel is pretty much fixed in place. On top of this land is where people live and they claim part of that land as their own. As people associate by family, by tribe, by nation, by race, so we know the land that they occupy. People move around on the land, sometimes by conquest, else by assimilation, or into vacant land, or pushed out of their homes by others. People can have any land they want, provided they can hold it and keep others from taking it. Human history has never been any different.

Anonymous Eric Ashley August 24, 2013 12:32 PM  

Col. Kratman,

I don't accept international law, but I am more of a proponent of Just War.

And we still fight for gain or interest, its just less naked now than before.

And I'm pretty sure that the Southern 'pacifists' (who's not familiar with reality now? :) ) had more reasons than 'Wow that's nice land you got there, guess we'll take it' to justify their actions in regard to Mexico.

And I'll agree that the Southern States were dumb to allow themselves to be manipulated into war. However, it does seem to me that Lincoln holding Sumter was illegal. (Not deeply familiar with it.) But that's irrelevant to the main point.

However, if your theses is that the North was 'justified' in waging aggressive war aka the War of Northern Aggression against a free neighbour by a thin cloak of bushwah, and the need of the North for the South, then yes, I guess you're right by the international standards of the day.


Since Immigration is of interest here, I've heard that the War would have gone far different if there hadn't been the massive immigration a couple decades earlier into the North.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 24, 2013 1:00 PM  

That was sarcasm, Eric. If there was any place in the country without a whole bunch of pacifism, it was the south. (Though they did have their quakers and such, many of whom were active in the Underground Railroad and many of whom were pro-Union generally.) As for war with Mexico; it was theft, plain and simple, with a thin to the point of fraudulent claim of self defense.

Sumter's an interesting case, with color of right on both sides. It was built by the United States, hence federal property. When South Carolina gave the water (not much land involved), they somehow neglected to put in the deed, "Unless we, in a snit, secede, in which case it reverts to SC." IOW, Massachusetts, Maine, NY, Pennsylvania, etc, owned the place as much as SC. The island on which it was built was mostly artificial, made of granite mined in - I shit you not - Quincy, Mass, hence as pure Yankee as one can get. On the other hand, it was a potential threat to South Carolinian commerce, so one can understand them wanting to reduce it on those grounds. But if you can reduce a future potential threat, then, once again, the Federal government was justified in reducing the CSA.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 24, 2013 1:19 PM  

There was another factor in firing on Fort Sumter when they did. There was fairly well documented fear in confederate circles of suppressed by reviving unionism undoing their secession. Remember, most states were railroaded out in fairly undemocratic fashion. Nevins, for example, quoted a letter to, IIRC, Davis to that effect, with the line, "Strike a blow!" presumably to put an end to the unionism by starting a war.

Blogger Justthisguy August 24, 2013 3:27 PM  

Lieutenant-Colonel Kratman is scarily sharp and honest, in a scary infantry-like way. I think this is why I am more comfortable over at The Donovan's blog. He is an Arty person, and prefers to kill at a distance. I mean, when you play Infantry, you have to get all icky and sweaty, and maybe even have to fight the enemy tooth and nail, actually. That's not for me. Blow 'em up from over the horizon, I say.

Blogger Justthisguy August 24, 2013 3:36 PM  

P.s. I note that when Major Donovan was a battery commander, he insisted that all of his men qualified well with their personal small arms. Sometimes you have to play Infantry, whether you want to, or not. I think that's a large part of what informs the Second Amemdment.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 24, 2013 3:54 PM  

"Artillery lends dignity to what otherwise would be a vulgar brawl."

Blogger Justthisguy August 24, 2013 9:16 PM  

I believe canister would be just the thing to use against rock bands and others who employ electrically amplified instruments. Sorry, Vox, I'm on the other side against you, here.

Anonymous a. dude August 25, 2013 10:03 AM  

If one is being beaten to death by a person of color, the progressive thing is to just go with it. Resistance of any kind is racist. A few more kicks to your skull and it's over soon.

WWJD? They dont know any better. Brothers gotta brother.

Anonymous Rothbardian August 25, 2013 10:09 AM  

Tom Kratman = neocon

Blogger Tom Kratman August 25, 2013 8:32 PM  

Not all all. A Neocon isn't a conservative at all. The "con" stands for "con man," as near as I can tell. No, a neocon is a short-haired, suit wearing liberal, with a vast and unjustified faith in his or her own wonderfulness, the efficacy of military force, and the ease and certainty of successful social engineering among foreign cultures.

Blogger Justthisguy August 26, 2013 7:52 AM  

I think that's why Jerry Pournelle calls 'em Neo-Jacobins.

Blogger Tom Kratman August 26, 2013 7:54 AM  

Likely is. But whatever they are, conservative they are not.

Anonymous Anonymous August 26, 2013 9:26 PM  

Im thinking that he was probably armed when he was on okinawa

Anonymous Lesbian Dorito Night August 27, 2013 7:19 PM  

There’s no such thing as “black-on-black” crime. Yes, from 1976 to 2005, 94 percent of black victims were killed by black offenders, but that racial exclusivity was also true for white victims of violent crime—86 percent were killed by white offenders. Indeed, for the large majority of crimes, you’ll find that victims and offenders share a racial identity, or have some prior relationship to each other.

Crime, in general, is that it’s driven by opportunism and proximity; If African-Americans are more likely to be robbed, or injured, or killed by other African-Americans, it’s because they tend to live in the same neighborhoods as each other. Residential statistics bear this out; blacks are still more likely to live near each other or other minority groups than they are to whites. And of course, the reverse holds as well—whites are much more likely to live near other whites than they are to minorities and African-Americans in particular.

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