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Friday, January 03, 2014

Mutual assistance

One thing most of you are going to have to understand is that the days of go along to get along are over. The Left is coming for you no matter what you do, no matter how careful you are to keep your head down and your mouth shut. One phrase I'm now seeing over and over again of late is an idea that was brought up often during the SFWA kerfluffle:

"Regardless of the reasons Kluwe was cut, if his description of Priefer’s homophobic comments is accurate, then Priefer could (and should) face NFL discipline. Open expressions of bigotry should have no place in the NFL."

"Hate speech, whether is it about race, gender or sexual preference has no place in any workplace."

"I am a supporter of gay rights and equality. I also think that Kluwe is telling the truth about Priefer. There is no place for a man like that in any professional org."

"Hate speech has no place in a work environment."

And who defines bigotry and hate speech? Not you, that's for sure. So, the Left can advocate the end of religion, the elimination of all Christians and anything else that they find desirable, and it will neither be considered hate nor bigotry, but if you even fail to show what is presently deemed sufficient enthusiasm for their latest insanity, there will be no place for you.

So, it is time to start making sure that there are places for you and for others like you who do not subscribe to the Left's madness. DH's new project is only one brick in a vast structure that will have to be built, because our predecessors failed us. To paraphrase the immortal words of Otter, they fucked up, they trusted the left. And now the left is running rampant through the institutions, just as Antonio Gramsci dreamed.

I received this email the other day from a self-described "Libertarian SQL Geek"
Vox, my current position will be eliminated in two weeks.  Yes, I'm being caught up in the Obamacare "we need to downsize to cover the costs of medical" rush. I view it as an opportunity.  If you have need of a database geek for projects, or know of anyone else in the who might have need of my services, please let me know, and feel free to pass my name along.
If you're looking for a SQL guy, email me and I'll pass it along. And actually, if you're looking for anyone, let me know and I'll post it here.

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103 Comments:

Anonymous Noah B. January 03, 2014 4:49 PM  

I guess if we did something as simple as setting up a simple HTML page with a listing of different Ilk, their professions, and their contact information, we'd all get spammed to death, wouldn't we?

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 4:52 PM  

I guess if we did something as simple as setting up a simple HTML page with a listing of different Ilk, their professions, and their contact information, we'd all get spammed to death, wouldn't we?

We would indeed. So, making a name for oneself as someone to be trusted is quite important these days, eh? Because the only way to survive is knowing who you can trust. And BEING that one... Well, that's influence.

Anonymous jack January 03, 2014 4:59 PM  

Goodness, Vox. Shortly you will remake the publishing business [romance writing libs need not apply], now, an employment rag. Good.
I mean, you hired that strange Fin with the perfect English and, apparently, the ability to program anything, so why not watch out for other folk that have met the new barbarians and been screwed by them. I like this.
I worked for decades in a business where I got raked over the coals regularly by the modern inspired left and, somehow, managed not to commit murder. I'm beyond wanting to apply for jobs, but there are others that may have exhibited major self control while getting shafted for no real reason. They deserve a break.

Hoo Rah!

Anonymous eShamus January 03, 2014 5:03 PM  

A conversational fodder theory:

Is it inherent religiosity that motivates queers to insist not only their desires but also their acts be affirmed as acceptable to everyone? Does a horror of a residual yet dying conscience drive queers to demand universal acknowledgment that sin is not sin? (After all, if no one says it's wrong, one's dying conscience can finally be slain.)

And I'm intolerant? Let me correct that. And I'm intolerant.

I'm intolerant of a lot. And I'm supposed to be. But my intolerance is not accompanied by my attempt to control. Rather, I am controlled and my intolerance is a symptom of my submission to the Lord Jesus Christ.

It's a horrible thing to be given up (Rom 1). It is penultimate to the most horrible thing.

If sin is not known as sin, people cannot repent from their sin because one cannot repent from something that is not sin.

This, chiefly, is why we must label the way our Father does.

Anonymous realmatt January 03, 2014 5:20 PM  

DHs new project?

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 5:22 PM  

@realmatt

See Vox's Farenheight post

Blogger Outlaw X January 03, 2014 5:24 PM  

This story I know about is about three years old, Vox. My colleague at work husband who worked for a different division in the the federal government tol me this one day. "My husband and over 200 of his fellow workers were called into their largest confernence room with little warning. They all thught something bad was going on. The Director of their divisin walked up to the podium and started talking about how intolerance would not be tollerated,. Then he called a man forward (Now remember there were GS14 to GS5 employees all required to attend) then he said he wishes no longer to be a man and wants to be a women and he usaid to call him by the femail derivation of his name and would not be dressing as a man"

I thought how an hour was wasted on something that could have been explained in an email and no one really cared. Maybe the women did because he would no longer be using the mens restroom.

I never told this before but it was made clear any dissenters would be disciplined. Why make such a big show over something that wasn't on the top of their work priority list that day and nobody gave a damn as she explained..

Anonymous Brother Thomas January 03, 2014 5:27 PM  

This reminds me of the fake weeping at Kin Jong-il's funeral. If you didn't weep enough for the "great" leader, you would lose your life.

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 5:37 PM  

One of the right's biggest mistakes was not only trusting the left, but trusting in their inherent rationality.

How much digital ink has been spilled on right-wing polemics aimed (at least in part) at *convincing* leftists of the error of their ways, and proposing more rational solutions?

Most people are cognitive misters (TLDR - MPAI) but with the left, even regarding the ones who are smart enough to follow VD-level logic and to understand his polemics...it doesn't matter - they know that they are wrong and actually intend to be.

Take education for example (as there was just a post about it here just recently) - the miserable failure of our current education system is apparent - but the failure was the goal in the first place, for reasons most of you are well aware of. Creating a generation of idiots was intentional.

The bottom line of this little rant is - leftism fails every reality and results test utterly - but those failures are exactly the point and precisely the intended results. These people (at least the leaders, not the useful idiot masses) know they are wrong, and are actively trying to destroy Christendom (to the degree that there is even Christendom left anymore).

They are like the terminator...you can't reason with them, you can't bargain with them, and they will not stop until all goodness and virtue is destroyed.

Stop reasoning with the leftists that you know - either they are too stupid or indoctrinated to understand you, or they are 'in on the deal' and are doing it intentionally. We have to (within the law of course) fight them at every pass - being nice and tolerant has proven to be a one-way street and reasoning with them is utterly fruitless.

I am just a random poster, and perhaps have no right to say this - but I propose that any of us right-wingers (not republitartard RINOS aka the controlled opposition) start focusing our writing and thinking far more on practical ways to defeat the left, and not on simply writing polemic after polemic on how wrong/destructive the left is.

Anyone with half a brain knows that already, and things have gotten to the point where conservatives need to take action.

How long before being a (serious, non-liberal) Christian will be a firable offense - will disqualify you from all forms of economic support? The left doesn't need to use concentration camps and police state tactics - a softer, more genteel form of economic warfare will work just fine - after all, you and your children have to eat.

*end rant*

Blogger Outlaw X January 03, 2014 5:41 PM  

a softer, more genteel form of economic warfare will work just fine - after all, you and your children have to eat.

If they get their way, nothing will be built and none will eat especially not them. But some people can't see past the nose on their face.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 5:43 PM  

you and your children have to eat.

Even then, the only correct way is clearly stated in the Bible.

Luk 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 5:43 PM  

@Outlaw

In the 3rd world, the elite at the top are still able to eat, and in fact live quite well.

The sec-prog elite will be taken care of, no matter what happens. It is you and yours that will suffer if the left gets their way.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 5:44 PM  

"and children". You may think you'll get some slack before the Judgement Seat. But you'd be wrong.

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 5:46 PM  

@Markku

Terse but correct comment there - I couldn't agree more.

My point is that stuff like what Vox is proposing above is critical - it is not unreasonable to expect that I will be fired within the next few years due to not only not approving of homosexuality but failing to be insufficiently enthusiastic about it. Us Christians are called to be willing to accept these consequences - but no one said that we can't defend against them to the degree that we are able to. (Aka Christians working together for economic provision once being a Christian is a fireable offense).

Anonymous Brother Thomas January 03, 2014 5:46 PM  

The leftist is at war with reality. The rest of us? Well, we're collateral damage.

Blogger Chiva January 03, 2014 5:48 PM  

@Outlaw X
Reminds me of the time when I and 5 other engineers were warned that we would be hit with sexual harassment charges if we continued to call a person undergoing the "change" by their birth name.

I quickly found another job. While I got along with the person in question I could not stay at a company that was so quick to sledgehammer us when an email would have sufficed.

Blogger Outlaw X January 03, 2014 5:49 PM  

The sec-prog elite will be taken care of, no matter what happens. It is you and yours that will suffer if the left gets their way.

I would stop using the future tense if I was you. Have you been paying attention?

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 5:49 PM  

@Markku

Just to be clear (maybe i didn't do a good job at explaining this) - when I was talking about how the left will use economic warfare in leiu of open violence) - all i was saying is their strategy - not that Christians should give into those tactics, despite the difficulties that they will face.

Blogger Chiva January 03, 2014 5:54 PM  

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Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 5:55 PM  

Sorry for so many posts folks...one last one for the moment

A very good, related post that I read recently.

Anonymous Leonidas January 03, 2014 5:55 PM  

I'm looking for a part time yoga instructor at my dojo in north Alabama. I keep getting calls from rich SWPL women who want to take yoga, and I'd *LOVE* to take their money.

Anonymous Rantor January 03, 2014 6:06 PM  

As Laurie Anderson put it...

When love is gone, there is always justice, and when justice is gone, there is always force... our opponents want to use financial force and when that fails there is always physical

Anonymous Poli_Mis January 03, 2014 6:07 PM  

Despite my titles, I am at my core a designer -- the playground of the Left. I knew years ago that I would always be a misfit in my profession.

Anonymous Duelling Scriptures January 03, 2014 6:22 PM  

Matthew 10: 37

37 “Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.


The opposite of "loves more than" is not "hate" but "loves less", in case anyone gets inspired to kill their family or something.

Anonymous Chad January 03, 2014 6:25 PM  

The left appeals to those with a 'victim mentality' even if that 'victim' hits below the belt and instantly cowers the instant any resistance is encountered. These are people who see misfortune as intentionally caused by malevolent people (mostly WASP men). They themselves are merely the victims of evil people and life would be practically utopian if not for those who oppose them.

A common theme in these groups is that they essentially remove any moral agency from their own lives. Their choices are meaningless to them as they divorce them from their often predictable consequences. Any negative outcome will automatically be seen as a prejudice against them for being black, gay, female, disabled, etc.

The real shame of it is exactly how effective such a posture is at deflecting criticism. It is also, as Vox has stated, hypocritical in the extreme.

Anonymous kh123 January 03, 2014 6:39 PM  

"Why make such a big show over something that wasn't on the top of their work priority list that day and nobody gave a damn"

If the trumpets don't sound, who's going to show up to pay tribute to Nebu's statue.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 6:40 PM  

Even though dynamic equivalent translations are partially correct in pooh-poohing the word hate in there, it doesn't quite capture how much more you are expected to love God.

Anonymous Anonymous January 03, 2014 7:06 PM  

I am going to delurk to go ahead and say that I am one of those conservative people trying to be practical. I'm interested in real things people can do in their own local communities, not in punditry. I am to the right of Vox, many of the ilk and most of the dissident right, but I still blog my crimethink and aim to write up practical tips I can just print off and hand people as needed. You'd be amazed what comes up offline among conservative and Republicans having casual conversations about how to have "normal lives" or "live decently without PC pressure".

So there are conservatives already trying to figure out the practical side.

Anonymous Noah B. January 03, 2014 7:10 PM  

The opposite of "loves more than" is not "hate" but "loves less", in case anyone gets inspired to kill their family or something.

Thanks for clearing that up, especially with the price of ammo being what it is.

Anonymous Duelling Scriptures January 03, 2014 7:17 PM  

it doesn't quite capture how much more you are expected to love God.

I think that is probably taken care of within the whole context of Matt. 10:34-38, in which Jesus quotes Micah 7:6. Micah 7 councils trust in the Lord during times of social disintegration.

It leaves no doubt that your choice can only go one way in the event of a crisis.

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 7:18 PM  

@TUW

Could you elaborate regarding 'what comes up offline'?

I agree that we need more practical steps and less punditry.

Anonymous zen0 January 03, 2014 7:40 PM  

I agree that we need more practical steps and less punditry.

Did you catch the stuff on Mark Steyn's troubles earlier?

If they attempt to "de-normalize" you, you have to "de-normalize" them.

Anonymous Godfrey January 03, 2014 8:13 PM  

If the cultural elites can convince the dumb among the masses to partake in something as irrational and silly as sodomy, then they literally have the power to convince the masses of anything.

Since things are becoming increasingly irrational, should the sane have a secret hand shake?

Anonymous Anonymous January 03, 2014 8:20 PM  

Drink!!!

Anonymous Porky January 03, 2014 8:43 PM  

Dh's new project...the modern version of the Star of David on the lapel.

But should make dh's job easier when he has to round up dissidents for the FEMA camps. Now every rabbit with an iPhone can run your license plate and turn you in to the thought police.

Good Lord these are those interesting times they've been talking about aren't they?


Anonymous bw January 03, 2014 8:59 PM  

Open expressions of bigotry should have no place

Liars. What they really mean is "open expression other than my religious fundamentalism, aka. "The State", should have no place....

I'll give it to my pastor of decades ago: when asked about the culture brewing and what is being described in this thread and what ultimately will have to be done about it?: "Shoot 'em in the streets...."
Damn right, brother. Frozen Chosin, Semper Fi.

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 8:59 PM  

@Godfrey

Precisely. MPAI, among other things, makes polemic useless as a tool of change.

We can't use the political process, we can't convince via reasoned argument.

So we have to help each other out and just try to steer clear of the inevitable incoming wreckage as best we can.

Anonymous zen0 January 03, 2014 9:11 PM  

In regard to this and culture wars: Why would anyone in their right mind join the U.S. military?

Why?

Deprive them of their weaponry, ie, soldiers. It is a volunteer army, is it not?

Anonymous lozozlo January 03, 2014 9:16 PM  

@Zen

Cut your cable TV service to deprive them of a major revenue source and propaganda dispensary.

Imagine if every conservative cut their TV.

Anonymous the Crown January 03, 2014 9:17 PM  

It is a volunteer army, is it not?

Oh the ZerO Einstein irony. No, literally. Einstein.

"The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse
military service."

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 9:17 PM  

Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

So, who are these?

Well, they just might be us.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 9:18 PM  

(The hungry, hopefully. Not the goats.)

Anonymous bw January 03, 2014 9:36 PM  

Well, they just might be us

...and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world

Anonymous dh January 03, 2014 9:40 PM  

Porky--

Whats wrong, you don't like free association all of the sudden?

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 9:42 PM  

He's not asking for the _government_ to stop you. In the libertarian model, these things are mostly controlled by ostracism.

Anonymous zen0 January 03, 2014 9:44 PM  

"The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse
military service."


In the foreign policy sphere, the only people the U.S. Government shits on more than its allies are its soldiers.

Anonymous bw January 03, 2014 9:49 PM  

the only people the U.S. Government shits on more than its allies are its soldiers.

And it comes out again: the greatest victims are definitely the "allied", unarmed, Fabian, projecting Canadians...

Anonymous Stilicho January 03, 2014 9:51 PM  

Slightly OT. Wonderful imagery from the the Dark Lord:
In the end, the truth wins out. The question is whether it wins in the arena of genteel exchange of ideas, or it rises as the last man standing in a blood-soaked thunderdome.

Anonymous zen0 January 03, 2014 10:00 PM  

And it comes out again: the greatest victims are definitely the "allied", unarmed, Fabian, projecting Canadians.

Kill the messenger.. Canada sent their allotment of sacrificial lambs to the senseless Afghan adventure, and the futile Iraqi adventure, all at the behest of the Great Satan.

Did you hear that Al Qaida forces just overtook Fallujah, with the vaunted Iraqi army dropping their weapons and running for their lives.

What exactly was the point of all that BS, bw?..

If you care to note, my comment pointed out that the greatest victims were the U.S. citizens that were conned into fighting in a ridiculous and ultimately useless conflict.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 10:24 PM  

What exactly was the point of all that BS, bw?

I'm sure Obama would be confused as to how this isn't a success....

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 10:25 PM  

Just following his Islamic faith, you know.

Anonymous Stickwick January 03, 2014 10:38 PM  

OT: Maybe this has already made the rounds here, but just in case: The guy looks like a typical Seattle dweeb, but check out what he does when a thug sticks a gun in his face. Bravo, dude.

Anonymous Pound January 03, 2014 10:47 PM  

@Zeno

Answering the military question for the most part joining is seen as a means to an end. Most of the guys I work with just needed work or wanted the GI bill... and the majority of us hate the politics and are counting down the days to when our enlistment is up

Anonymous Porky January 03, 2014 10:59 PM  

Whats wrong, you don't like free association all of the sudden?

Before I answer that, do you plan on including gun registry information? Which magazine subscriptions will you be peeking into? Why do you need my vehicle registration?

Anonymous Obvious January 03, 2014 11:12 PM  

Don't worry. There will always be a place for the ilk. Hell we have all sorts a museums dedicated to history.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 03, 2014 11:26 PM  

There's no room for sexism, no room for racism, no room for climate denial, no room for homophobia, no room for Eurocentrism, no room for antisemitism, no room for right-wing fascists, no room for Islamophobia and on and on. But there's endless room for "transgressive" art like Piss Christ, for calls for anti-white propaganda and so on.

Why? because that is the officially favored propaganda. It's the party line.

Pretending that people pushing the party line are "rebels" is how they pretend that there is more freedom of speech in white countries now than there was in the Soviet Union.

"Do you have any freedom at all for people to speak freely?"

"Sure, people who bravely defy convention by calling for those who deviate from the party line to be fired can speak freely."

Anonymous Orville January 03, 2014 11:32 PM  

Seriously, what is the worry about having some of that info out there. The NSA already knows everything there is to know about you. All they need is a flimsy reason to use it, or plant it.

Being know among your preferred group makes it easier to self-segregate.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 11:34 PM  

There will always be a place for the ilk. Hell

No. Heaven.

Blogger Markku January 03, 2014 11:36 PM  

We'll just have to tabernacle here until then.

Anonymous Anonymous January 03, 2014 11:41 PM  

What comes up offline is people wanting to know about alternatives to the college treadmill for their kids, about just how they are supposed to find spouses for their children when community has been utterly deracinated and atomized, just how on earth they can have even a little of the functional, tightly knit community of their ancestors given the incentives arrayed against living normally.

It's possible, but it will be hard, difficult work.

Anonymous bob k. mando January 04, 2014 12:22 AM  

Leonidas January 03, 2014 5:55 PM
I'm looking for a part time yoga instructor at my dojo in north Alabama.


do i actually have to know yoga? or can i just tell them to breath deeply, concentrate on their chakra and stand in funny positions?



zen0 January 03, 2014 9:11 PM
Deprive them of their weaponry, ie, soldiers. It is a volunteer army, is it not?



at the rate drone and android tech is coming along? i don't think they'll need human soldiers in the field much longer ... assuming they can pay for them.

in that, i agree with TexArcane.

also, if you test in with high tech aptitude on the ASVAB you can probably get yourself into A&P certification maintenance or machining. and you pretty much can't acquire those skillsets anymore without going to college.


dh January 03, 2014 9:40 PM
Whats wrong, you don't like free association all of the sudden?



i don't know why i'm supposed to like having you data mining me any more than i like the NSA doing it?

and without all these EEOC infringements on freedom of association, workarounds like your service would be completely unnecessary.

which means that your choice to create this market is probably very wise.



Obvious January 03, 2014 11:12 PM
Don't worry. There will always be a place for the ilk. Hell we have all sorts a museums dedicated to history.


a museum? well, that's better than the mass graves socialists usually manage to wind up putting themselves in.

Anonymous Porky January 04, 2014 1:13 AM  

Seriously, what is the worry about having some of that info out there. The NSA already knows everything there is to know about you.

The Nazi's already know you are a Jew. What's the big deal with having to wear that star on your lapel?

Come on, guys. Rule 13 - “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

This is how leftists do it. First, normalize the behavior, then legislate it, then police it.

I'm not surprised that the libertarians here are falling over themselves to praise the leftist for coming up with a hi-tech version of the Jew badge. Funny how they hate the NSA for creating dossiers on citizens minding their own business, but they drool like Pavlov's dog at the thought of being able to have a dossier on any complete stranger.

As I've said previously, libertarians are the pupal stage of authoritarians.

Anonymous VD January 04, 2014 4:16 AM  

As I've said previously, libertarians are the pupal stage of authoritarians.

As we've all observed previously, you're an idiot.

Blogger Crude January 04, 2014 5:52 AM  

And who defines bigotry and hate speech? Not you, that's for sure.

That's part of the problem. We don't. We can, but we don't.

Anonymous kh123 January 04, 2014 6:08 AM  

Is as if the alcoholics of America have convinced everyone else to never dare touch a drop of the sauce.

Anonymous Idle Spectator January 04, 2014 6:11 AM  

As we've all observed previously, you're an idiot.

Ye-AH, cuz naming your daughter Megan and being Vegan are the same thing since they have the same suffixes.


If the cultural elites can convince the dumb among the masses to partake in something as irrational and silly as sodomy, then they literally have the power to convince the masses of anything.

Hey now, don't knock it till you try it, with the opposite sex or the same sex depending your particular hanky-pankering. The NSA shows that backdoors are the new in-thing. Or the thing that you in-with.

But as the cyclopean Mexican't Fred Reed said, getting the AIDS from it is like riding a motorcycle without a helmet, so try to play safe with the other meat helmet.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 04, 2014 6:38 AM  

Vox Day: "And who defines bigotry and hate speech? Not you, that's for sure."

Crude: "That's part of the problem. We don't. We can, but we don't."

No we can't. Anti-whites have defined these and other verbal attacks in a context that includes all their tropes, which they have spent hundreds of billions of dollars propagating in the mass media, and that excludes anti-whitism, anti-Christian aggression and so on. They own this language; it calls to mind what they want it to and invokes directed emotions they want it to invoke.

(And it was inevitable they would be able to impose their technology and laws, even on the Catholic Church, because, first, they had a mass media monopoly for most of a century and still do; and second, we are just now coming out of the era when the mass media was the only way to get a message out, so nobody could get past the gatekeepers and talk back; and third, they were the ones that were and are passionate to stigmatize and punish free speech, whereas those they overthrew had more typically white attitudes favoring freedom of speech, liberty, property rights, natural sex roles (that didn't require bizarre speech codes to enforce against nature) and so on. Only one side had the means or the desire to create labels like "hate speech".)

We should use accurate speech that reflect our ideas. Call them anti-white. Or if your issue is Christianity and you feel you can back up what you say in argument, call them anti-Christian. Whatever your top issue is and whatever you think is right, go with that.

Don't use and validate the enemy's terms, and think that the definitions and connotations of those terms won't shift as often as it takes so the enemy wins. The enemy owns that language, and it serves only its master.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus January 04, 2014 6:42 AM  

And it was inevitable they would be able to impose their terminology and laws... though actually the anti-white left uses language as a technology of control.

Anonymous Idle Spectator January 04, 2014 6:50 AM  

So, it is time to start making sure that there are places for you and for others like you who do not subscribe to the Left's madness. DH's new project is only one brick in a vast structure that will have to be built, because our predecessors failed us. To paraphrase the immortal words of Otter, they fucked up, they trusted the left. And now the left is running rampant through the institutions, just as Antonio Gramsci dreamed.

This is really a confluence of several factors, like the insipid convection of a non-Newtonian fluid of fetid liquid fail. The previous comments stirred some of them lightly...


Firstly, like the shipwreck of the SWFA Exxon Valez showed, the Left are starting to go bat shit from the current economic contraction and technology threatening their little fiefdoms (hint: the Left are the gatekeepers, see also r-selection and Anonymous Conservative's blog).

Then you have the Baby Boomers, which of course started a lot of this mess and turned left, and the GET THE FUCKOUTTA the way GRANDMA BEEP BEEP car thing from them not retiring like they should have and not understanding the technology changes happening.

Then you have to deal with the left-wing affirmative action candidates, useless mouth-breathing women, and immigrants depressing wages. I hate dealing with those ponces. "OK, the adults need to do some work now!"

Then you have the salty lipid byproducts churned out from the duodenum end of the Education-Industrial Complex, which is woefully inadequate in the information age we now find ourselves in. This compounds all the problems into a meaty brick of turgid tampons being sent down that intestine.

Then you are being ass-raped above by a sludge deluge from the government Leftists (ibid. IRS, Eric Holder, et. al. phuk.u), I don't think I need to es-pee-ee-el-el that one out too much.


All in all, it signals go away, 'batin time.

Anonymous Anonymous January 04, 2014 7:23 AM  

Has anybody else entertained the idea that we need to start building parallel government structures ? No, I am not capable of thinking it through, nor do I see it happening easily; However, the idea is there and I am just wondering if anybody else has had it.

Anonymous daddynichol January 04, 2014 7:54 AM  

Segregating ourselves is not without precedent. The Mennonites and the Amish for generations have established their own communities successfully.

Anonymous Luke January 04, 2014 8:39 AM  

Vox said:
"If you're looking for a SQL guy, email me and I'll pass it along. And actually, if you're looking for anyone, let me know and I'll post it here."

How about Ilk who need to be "looked for" (need jobs)?

I'm a recently unemployed geologist (oil industry background), totally mobile. If I can find a decent billet soon enough, my wife will go along with a 3rd kid...

Anonymous Bob Ramar January 04, 2014 8:56 AM  

Edward Teller made the comment "Since I will not work for the appeasers, I will work for the fascists" when he resigned from the Manhattan Project. I have always thought that the 'play' that would be run in the United States would be very similar to the one run in post WWI Germany. The parallels are eerie, or then again, maybe not.

Anonymous Porky January 04, 2014 12:08 PM  

As we've all observed previously, you're an idiot.

Yet here you and the ilk are... giddily peeing your pants at the thought of spying on some stranger's magazine subscriptions.

ie: Josh, who never lets me forget that libertarians "just want to be left alone" yet salivates over the idea of an internet dossier on private citizens.

Anonymous lone liberal January 04, 2014 12:10 PM  

who is John Galt?

you guys better build the Gulch before that database...

(or else psych up to use EBT cards)

Anonymous Josh January 04, 2014 12:12 PM  

I'm a recently unemployed geologist (oil industry background), totally mobile. If I can find a decent billet soon enough, my wife will go along with a 3rd kid...

I think Stg58/ Animal Mother works in oil and gas

Anonymous bob k. mando January 04, 2014 1:25 PM  

Luke January 04, 2014 8:39 AM
I'm a recently unemployed geologist (oil industry background), totally mobile.


i know the weather is no good, but the Bakken is dying for people. you should already know this.

Dickinson and Minot, ND
Estevan, SK
Glendive, MT
www.bakkenhelpwanted.com


Porky January 04, 2014 12:08 PM
Yet here you and the ilk are... giddily peeing your pants at the thought of ...


people who live in outhouses should know to check wind direction before they unzip.

Anonymous Steven D. January 04, 2014 1:31 PM  

I was literally fired from my last sw engineering job for mentioning a news story about the Golden Dawn to a European coworker and friend while a boss walked by. I was told I was creating an unprofessional work environment by bringing up Nazism on the job, since they heard me say "there are reports they have a connection with certain nationalist and possibly Neo-Nazi elements." Yep. Fuck that shit. I just took a job in NYC, though, so I'm not looking for anything, but if anybody needs any computer programming done on the side feel free to hit me up. I'm always look for new things.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey January 04, 2014 2:11 PM  

"parallel government structures"

This idea is already being discussed in certain Nationalist-Alt-Right circles. PGNR = Provisional Government of National Restoration.

Anonymous Pound January 04, 2014 2:13 PM  

If any of the Ilk work in aerospace I'd like to know what those companies are looking for. By the time I'm ready to get a job I will have 5 years maintenance experience and some supervisory skills.

Anonymous dh January 04, 2014 3:22 PM  

Steven D, can you send VD an email and ask him to send it along to me?

Anonymous dh January 04, 2014 3:28 PM  

Porky--

I think you are misunderstanding something. For one, the data is already out there, and literally, anybody with any money can buy it. Put it to you this way, for $0.25 per THOUSAND names I can buy records on the free market about almost anything you buy attached to your name. The NRA, you know, the ones you hope are out there to protect your rights, will sell you subscriber, donation, and membership information for a price (it is roughly 100x more expensive than industry standard, probably because it is a list with a lot of powerful people on it, as well as known activists).

Secondly, when you get a rating from a credit reporting agency or something else, you don't get all the data. You get a composite profile. I haven't worked out everything yet, I am still 1-2 man years of labor away from having a product, but the idea is not to data dump on anyone, but to correlate and make statistical predictions on a person.

The workplace and to a lesser degree the social and civic organizations are the last place where we expect liberals and conservatives to mix. It's obviously not a good idea, so why not help people segregate themselves how they see fit? Conservatives, and some liberals, are enmeshed with the idea that we should all be one big country. Because of historical ties that are increasingly irrelevant.

Reading here, and lots of other places, has taught me that a lot of people would like to know more about who their co-workers, employees, and members are. And yes to exclude the bad apples. I think that it's a viable service and that's why I am pursuing it.

TLDR, sometimes to make bacon you off to piss off the pigs.

Anonymous rycamor January 04, 2014 6:29 PM  

TLDR, sometimes to make bacon you off to piss off the pigs.

I hear some sizzle...

Regarding the software jobs, any Ilk looking for DB work, Linux/Unix sysadmin, or web application work can feel free to notify me at my handle at Gmail. I'm already in touch with our SQL geek above. I do a lot of database consulting which puts me in touch with medium and big businesses all over the place.

Anonymous Porky January 04, 2014 6:46 PM  

but the idea is not to data dump on anyone, but to correlate and make statistical predictions on a person.

The idea is to polarize, stigmatize, and to normalize snooping.

It's always been the same with you leftists throughout history. You target an "enemy", isolate them, and relentlessly pressure them until they cave in. If they don't cave in they are disposed of somehow.

It's one thing for a government agency to do it, it's another thing for some loony basement dwelling stalker to do it, but giving this to the public for $0.99 is a leftist's wet dream. As Josef Goebbels said, "Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred".

The workplace and to a lesser degree the social and civic organizations are the last place where we expect liberals and conservatives to mix.

I mix with liberals all the time at work. Believe it or not some of them are very talented. We don't talk about politics much, because they know I'm a Christian. Liberals don't like direct confrontation, but if they can snoop about you with an app and email the results to 100 of their friends they'll do it no problem.

Your app will force the issue. You know this, of course. It is the leftist dream to marginalize and stigmatize the opposition.

I think that it's a viable service and that's why I am pursuing it.

If we lived in a free society I probably wouldn't care. But we don't live in a free society.

We live in a society where the government is arming itself for a crackdown on people like me. We live in a society where free association puts you on a terror watch list. We live in a society where you lose your business if you refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, or lose your job without recourse for telling the wrong kind of joke.

You've bamboozled the libertarians into thinking this is about free association because they dream (irrationally) of someday instituting a free society of some kind. But this is a pollyannaish fantasy.

You know all of this, of course. Good luck with your app. I'm sure it will be a success.

When you become a guard at the FEMA camp, dh, just remember that I once offered to buy you a beer. :)


Anonymous Steven D. January 04, 2014 6:54 PM  

dh:

Sure can. I'll pass it along.

Anonymous dh January 04, 2014 9:31 PM  

When you become a guard at the FEMA camp, dh, just remember that I once offered to buy you a beer. :)


Will do.

The spark behind the idea is to allow people to screen people who aren't like them - sheeps in wolves clothing - from joining their organization - whether it be a workplace or a social or religious club.

Why work with liberals when you think we are such scum? What kind of person secretly thinks his co-workers are scum but then acts nice to their face and politely treats them as equals?

It's pretty simple. If you believe even 50% of what you write about leftists then you wouldn't want to be around them at all - not at work or your bowling club or your swingers club.

Anonymous Porky January 04, 2014 10:27 PM  

The spark behind the idea is to allow people to screen people who aren't like them - sheeps in wolves clothing - from joining their organization - whether it be a workplace or a social or religious club.

You leftists caused this problem, now your "solution" is a big internet Jew badge. Genius.

Why work with liberals when you think we are such scum?

We're just working together. We're not going to their mom's house to sit in our pajamas and drink cocoa together.

What kind of person secretly thinks his co-workers are scum but then acts nice to their face and politely treats them as equals?

I'm not acting nice. I am genuinely nice.

It's pretty simple. If you believe even 50% of what you write about leftists then you wouldn't want to be around them at all - not at work or your bowling club or your swingers club.

Lol! Good Lord you are such a little pussy! :)

The fact is there are plenty of leftists who's company I enjoy. You included.

Now, I understand that you are destructive little creatures, potentially dangerous, and that you would most likely turn me in to the secret police if things went all Stasi around here. This is true of quite a few right wingers too.

But in the meantime, I see no reason to regard everyone suspiciously through the narrow prism of their voter registration card. That's rabbit behavior - the behavior of scared little liberals.

That's the difference between leftists and normal people. Leftists are like scared little rabbits who thump out a warning everytime some scaaaaary boogeyman comes around. Normal people just treat people normally.

I can't think of anything more rabbity and pathetic than sharing a big list of names on an internet app and saying "Don't hire this one - he subscribes to the WEEKLY STANDARD!!!"

Lol! I'll bet you look great in that flannel onesie, dh. :)

Anonymous dh January 04, 2014 11:34 PM  

Porky--

The problem I see is that you don't want to be held accountable. You want to be able to post shitty things about co-workers online. And if I knew you in person, and knew what you said about me online, I wouldn't want to be associated to you.

I've been called to account recently for things I have posted online and it was horrifying and embarrassing. I was ashamed! Literally mortified! We write things without thinking that it has any real world effect. And that's because of anonymity. I am thankful that I have it, but it was very embarrassing for me when I had to disclose a list of online identities to get some work I really wanted/needed. I think that a combination of this event, and VD's policy about identities of trolls, and all the like have got me thinking a lot about what type of person writes really shitty things about people online.

And since then I've been thinking on it and have been doing a better job of being a better person online and in conversations I would assume are private but don't know to be private.

Likewise, in social settings, I am on the lookout for people who have goals that are contrary to the goals of the organization. A great example - I am on the board of a local library. Meeting after meeting a citizen attends and essentially argues that we shouldn't exist as an entity. Waste of money, waste of time, everyone has the internet, just a hang out for the homeless. He may be right. But you know what's stupid? The rest of the board recommended him for the public advocate seat on the board. Because it's good to have diverse opinions.

It's just stupidity. In our case we knew the guy is fundamentally and genuinely opposed to the concept of public libraries. Every other meeting he is proposing things that are (a) against current law (like charging admission fees), (b) against the charter, like changing into basically a retail book store, or (c) interesting, but out-side of the mission of a public library (i think micro-lending is a great idea and may be a good solution to a lot of problems, but it's not in the mission of the library).

I am all for the guy changing the system and ending public libraries as we know it. But the way to do it isn't by being on the board. In this case, we have only ourselves to blame, we knew the guy was poison to our organization and yet we let him in the door, and then gave him power.

I see this as exactly what VD is talking about. I can work really well with libertarians. I can work really well with populists. But I can't work well with GOP true believers. If you spend your working day listening to Shawn Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and thinking they are the greatest thing ever, it's over. We are not going to work well unless it is quite literally a work-for-hire remote employee contracted position. Same thing with Glenn Beck. If you are real Glenn Beck believer, it's probably not going to work out. I certainly can't have you interacting with my clients and risking going into hysterics about whatever he was talking about the radio today. Oddly, almost the same thing is true of Rachael Maddow fans. If you are an activist liberal firebrand it's probably not going to work out. In the real world Obama is a failure and everyone knows it. I can't have you representing to the world otherwise.

And whats a good way to find this out? If I know you've posted 8,000 messages to TheBlaze.com, or Glenn Beck's forums, if you've re-tweeted Rachael Maddow 500 times, those are great indicators you won't fit in.

Blogger Markku January 05, 2014 12:20 AM  

I'm going to agree with Porky here. What dh is doing is loathsome.

Anonymous bob k. mando January 05, 2014 12:32 AM  

what dh is doing is loathsome, yes.

but what dh is doing is the same thing that Amazon and Google and Yahoo and everybody else is also doing. it's now the way of the world.

one of the things that peeves me the most is that they're using MY data and content ... and not compensating me in any way whatsoever. it's not bad enough that they're not asking my permission, no, they're profiting off of it at the same time.

this is one of the biggest reasons why i don't bookface or tweet or anything like that.

Anonymous David of One January 05, 2014 12:33 AM  

What to do ... what to do?

What can any one person do? It is impossible.

There's no winning.

How could any group of individuals ever hope to grow and learn together without constant nuisances by those whom wish to silence individuals with whom the tenants of Faith, Freedom, Liberty and knowledge are paramount? Paramount in the context that these notions are inseparable from their Life, Love and Liberty.

It is a fools folly to expect that Men and Women of shared faith in God and Jesus Christ, shared pursuit of knowledge and individual liberty, shared belief that our children and children of their number could every be educated freely of the same with shared commitments based upon shared beliefs of honor & integrity in combination with personal responsibility.

No. We must relent to the powers that be for the game is over in today's high-tech, global progressive/marxist/liberal designs to enslave Men & Women of faith and for whom individual liberty & freedom are inseparable from each breath they take by God's Grace.

We must make the best of the situation.

Perhaps matters of which we speak can at least be lived in the abstract in a game.

A game on secure servers.

There would be no profit from this outside of our mutual association and shared interest in the Game.

Players could pay $10, $15 or $20 per month.

The Game could be a non-profit game playing organization.

Players could meet in highly secure role-playing rooms to educate one another, discuss their knowledge, test their knowledge via role playing through a variety of virtual environments inclusive contextually real simulations of the Game world events and history.

Such a Game could focus on education, strategy, tactics, design of means, methods and tools to play the Game and enhance its shared value, individual/personal edification that could be extended to friends and entire families for generations.

I don't know if such a Game is really viable or even if it could realistically be implemented at a monthly cost that most players could afford and most importantly willing to support.

Could Game environments be made realistically enough to mimic the real world so as to capture and captivate the interests of the Players so as to improve their daily lives?

Sometimes I wish there were just some sort of club/Game meeting areas across the world where we could sit, talk, share ideas/hopes/dreams and lessons learned while sharing a meal or two with each others company.

I wonder who might be able to create such a Game, who might be able to setup & maintain private secure Game servers and Game communications systems?

Oh well ... dream a little dream.

Blogger Markku January 05, 2014 12:36 AM  

secure servers.

Such a thing doesn't exist. The NSA has hardware backdoors too, and zero-day exploits for every operating system. It simply doesn't matter how secure the software or the communications are.

Anonymous dh January 05, 2014 12:55 AM  

one of the things that peeves me the most is that they're using MY data and content ... and not compensating me in any way whatsoever. it's not bad enough that they're not asking my permission, no, they're profiting off of it at the same time.

Of course they are compensating you for it. You give them the data, they give you something in return. It's a transaction.

If you do not engage in the transaction, they don't get the data. You don't really think there's such a thing as "Free"?

Blogger Markku January 05, 2014 1:07 AM  

I do have one idea for a product, though. Don't want to say what it is, lest someone beat me to it. But here's my concept art for the logo.

Anonymous David of One January 05, 2014 2:35 AM  

Markku,

The logo is cool.

Secure servers ... what you say is true ... a paradigm shift would be in order.

Keep in mind the idea represents an application layer that is specific to the Game and not necessarily for the usual x86 implementation scheme ... MS apps and the like wouldn't be important.

The Game, it's servers and players would have a different and maybe limited set of needs specific to the Game.


Suffice it to say it would be a subscriber service.

All of this is very conceptual about the Game and its Players.

Goodnight.

Anonymous Porky January 05, 2014 6:44 AM  

And whats a good way to find this out? If I know you've posted 8,000 messages to TheBlaze.com, or Glenn Beck's forums, if you've re-tweeted Rachael Maddow 500 times, those are great indicators you won't fit in.

I look forward to hearing about how you lost a job because the HR gal ran your app and found out that you've posted 8000 messages at some right wing nut job site called Vox Popoli. Lol!

But of course, they won't tell you that. In their own rabbity way they'll just say "I'm sorry but we've decided to go with someone else.".

And if I knew you in person, and knew what you said about me online, I wouldn't want to be associated to you.

Again, the difference between rabbity leftist activists and normal people. You resent that I exist and want me to go away, but I would be more than happy to sit down and have a lunch with you.

I actually find you to be smart, creative, thoughtful and generally pleasant. I find you a rather fascinating specimen because most of the leftists I know are like I once was... thoughtlessly going with the flow and not really thinking too much about what their liberalism entails. You, on the other hand, have apparently thought it out, foreseen the inevitable horror that is looming, and concluded "Yeah, I'm on board with that."

You're disgusting, dh. But hey, who doesn't have some loathsome traits? I certainly do.

Anonymous bob k. mando January 05, 2014 1:11 PM  

dh January 05, 2014 12:55 AM
If you do not engage in the transaction, they don't get the data. You don't really think there's such a thing as "Free"?



garsh.

it's like you skipped over the whole part of my post where i pointed out that i don't bookface or something.

ah well, liberals are generally far superior to all other ideologies so i'm sure you have a point which i'm simply incapable of grasping.

Anonymous rycamor January 05, 2014 9:30 PM  

Markku January 05, 2014 12:36 AM

secure servers.

Such a thing doesn't exist. The NSA has hardware backdoors too, and zero-day exploits for every operating system. It simply doesn't matter how secure the software or the communications are.


I'm not convinced about "every operating system". Do you have specific knowledge or is this just a matter of calculated assurance on your part? I'm of course willing to grant the commercial OSes but I think Linux and the BSDs have far too many eyes on them to have a convenient little backdoor installed. As for the hardware exploits, note also that the BSDs (and Linux too?) do not rely on hardware random number generators for this very reason. So even if they could automatically tap the ethernet output that only gives them what they can already have.

I haven't spent a lot of time lately investigating this issue, so I am open to being convinced. I just don't want to be unnecessarily paranoid.

Blogger Markku January 06, 2014 2:01 AM  

Calculated, based on there being companies that trade in zero-day exploits for absolutely huge sums of money (I think it was millions of dollars for an exploit, but not sure). The NSA alone wouldn't have the resources to find them, but by creating enough demand, it is absolutely feasible.

Plus, you can inject malicious code afterwards through BIOS back doors. As Snowden revealed, this is how the NSA manages most of their eavesdropping. They just have to be able to hack in once, and then they can take the private keys.

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Anonymous Bob Sacamano January 06, 2014 11:18 AM  

"but what dh is doing is the same thing that Amazon and Google and Yahoo and everybody else is also doing. it's now the way of the world."

Might makes right!


"one of the things that peeves me the most is that they're using MY data and content ... and not compensating me in any way whatsoever. it's not bad enough that they're not asking my permission, no, they're profiting off of it at the same time."

When you fill out any form, your data is no longer "private" since you gave your permission.

Anonymous rycamor January 06, 2014 12:51 PM  

Markku January 06, 2014 2:01 AM
Plus, you can inject malicious code afterwards through BIOS back doors. As Snowden revealed, this is how the NSA manages most of their eavesdropping. They just have to be able to hack in once, and then they can take the private keys.

Granted, that was the one mind-expanding revelation to me. There has *got* to be a way to know when this happens. No eavesdropping can occur without some impact somewhere.

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