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Wednesday, February 26, 2014

Of gentrification and immigration

It astonishes me that many people who are capable of grasping the fact that gentrification changes neighborhoods nevertheless reject the idea that immigration changes countries. Spike Lee opines on changes in Brooklyn:
You can’t discover this! We been here. You just can’t come and bogart. There were brothers playing motherfuckin’ African drums in Mount Morris Park for 40 years and now they can’t do it anymore because the new inhabitants said the drums are loud. My father’s a great jazz musician. He bought a house in nineteen-motherfuckin’-sixty-eight, and the motherfuckin’ people moved in last year and called the cops on my father. He’s not — he doesn’t even play electric bass! It’s acoustic! We bought the motherfuckin’ house in nineteen-sixty-motherfuckin’-eight and now you call the cops? In 2013? Get the fuck outta here!

Nah. You can’t do that. You can’t just come in the neighborhood and start bogarting and say, like you’re motherfuckin’ Columbus and kill off the Native Americans. Or what they do in Brazil, what they did to the indigenous people. You have to come with respect. There’s a code. There’s people.

You can’t just — here’s another thing: When Michael Jackson died they wanted to have a party for him in motherfuckin’ Fort Greene Park and all of a sudden the white people in Fort Greene said, “Wait a minute! We can’t have black people having a party for Michael Jackson to celebrate his life. Who’s coming to the neighborhood? They’re gonna leave lots of garbage.” Garbage? Have you seen Fort Greene Park in the morning? It’s like the motherfuckin’ Westminster Dog Show. There’s 20,000 dogs running around. Whoa. So we had to move it to Prospect Park!

I mean, they just move in the neighborhood. You just can’t come in the neighborhood. I’m for democracy and letting everybody live but you gotta have some respect. You can’t just come in when people have a culture that’s been laid down for generations and you come in and now shit gotta change because you’re here? Get the fuck outta here. Can’t do that!

And then! Whoa whoa whoa. And then! So you’re talking about the people’s property change? But what about the people who are renting? They can’t afford it anymore! You can’t afford it. People want live in Fort Greene. People wanna live in Clinton Hill. The Lower East Side, they move to Williamsburg, they can’t even afford fuckin’, motherfuckin’ Williamsburg now because of motherfuckin’ hipsters.
Gentrification, immigration, and colonization are all exactly the same thing. They are the replacement of the native population by invaders. Whether this happens peacefully or not is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things; the consequences are the same.

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158 Comments:

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 9:05 AM  

Irony much?

Anonymous Alexander February 26, 2014 9:13 AM  

Oh you guys!

If you look at the comments, it's very, very different because white privilege.

Anonymous whtbread February 26, 2014 9:14 AM  

Gentrification of white areas by non-white people good. Gentrification of non-white areas by white people bad. Diversity for thee but not for me. It's all very simple folks.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 9:19 AM  

the comments are a riot. Liberals fighting liberals about what the real liberal position is. Beautiful trainwreck.

Anonymous Alexander February 26, 2014 9:24 AM  

Joking aside, it's actually internally consistent, which isn't a common trait of the warren. Immigration is required in Europe, Australia, and Anglo-America, but not Mexico, Nepal, Zambia, Korea, Turkey, Yemen, or Somalia.

Different scale, same policy.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 9:25 AM  

I stand with spike lee against the hipster invasion.

Someone should interview Dre and Ice Cube about the ethnic cleansing of Compton.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 9:25 AM  

I mean, they just move in the neighborhood. You just can’t come in the neighborhood. I’m for democracy and letting everybody live but you gotta have some respect. You can’t just come in when people have a culture that’s been laid down for generations and you come in and now shit gotta change because you’re here? Get the fuck outta here. Can’t do that!

As the chicks say: wow. Just w

Anonymous dh February 26, 2014 9:25 AM  

I especially like the part about how his father lived in the house since the beginning of time, which was apparently 1968.

You know who lived in Mount Morris before it became the home of the Black Woodstock (in 1969, directly after the black dad invaded the neighborhood)? Dutch immigrants. Who had lived there since the late 1890's.

I would like to go find some 102 year old dutch lady who remembers when the blacks came in, with their jazz music, and forced out all the poor dutch immigrants who couldn't afford the high rents and who couldn't tolerate the loud jazz music.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 9:32 AM  

ow. Imagine what would happen if a white man had said this.

Mr. Lee: you don't want to know what happened when your kind moved into my old neighborhood. You have no idea. From 1950s Elysium to ghetto war zone in ten fucking years. A person who looks like me can't even walk down the street in my old neighborhood any more. And now you want to keep Whitey out because he gonna ruin de neighborhood? Well, pardon my French, but fuck you, you stupid nigger. You and your kind have ruined more neighborhoods and towns and cities than the fucking Mongols did.

VD, I apologize for the rough language, but this article made me very angry. There's only one word for what Spike Lee types did to East Dallas, and that word is RAPE. I hope the Yuppie assholes run every black family in Brooklyn out.

Blogger lubertdas February 26, 2014 9:35 AM  

It's a shame that Spike couldn't simply do what my grandparents who lived in the south side of Chicago did: Say "there goes the neighborhood" and move to the suburbs.

One of the best things about having a career is that you can move where you WANT to live. I say this as a resident of Illinois who has his house on the market and is hoping to move to Wisconsin ASAP.

Anonymous Alexander February 26, 2014 9:35 AM  

And this is the liberal darling! I look forward to how his less progressively-minded friends in the NFL take to people who "come in and now shit gotta change because you’re here".

2014 may be a bad year for civilization, but it's going to be a good year for circuses. Silver lining!

Anonymous FP February 26, 2014 9:35 AM  

They ain't doing the right thing!

Anonymous Edjamacator February 26, 2014 9:37 AM  

I shed a tear for all the poor victims that Spike Lee is ranting for.

Sorry, no, I mean I laughed. Playing the victim is just so easy for certain people.

Anonymous Toddy Cat February 26, 2014 9:39 AM  

The weapons-grade hypocrisy aside, you gotta love this spoiled multimillionaire Buppie tryin' to talk like a muthaf**kin' street brotha. I expect June Cleaver to pop up, al la "Airplane" and say, "Excuse me, but I speak jive..."

Some things are just beyond parody.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 9:43 AM  

"VD, I apologize for the rough language, but this article made me very angry. There's only one word for what Spike Lee types did to East Dallas, and that word is RAPE. I hope the Yuppie assholes run every black family in Brooklyn out."

Oh. You were angry? So you feel better after your little emotional outburst? maybe some retail therapy will help later. You and the girls can even stop by starbucks.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 9:45 AM  

How the hell is spike lee spoiled?

Brotha made all his chedda hisself.

You jelly, cracka?

Anonymous dh February 26, 2014 9:46 AM  

Toddy--

This is by far one of the most shameful aspects of being even a little bit liberal. The truth is that Spike Lee is a multi, multi, multi millionare. He moved out of the neighborhood, good for him. Mobility. But then, he left his dad who really appears to be a decent guy, to rot in the same neighborhood. Maybe he wanted to stay, but maybe not.

It's the same all through the liberal world. You have Al Gore's mom who can't afford her prescription medicine while Gore is a goddamn multimillionaire (even at the time, he's no one path to being a billionaire). The hardest part is realize that most of the stereotypes are true.

Blogger Unknown February 26, 2014 9:47 AM  

Maybe Spike would like a good ol' race war? He's quite the intimidating figure, you know..

Anonymous dh February 26, 2014 9:47 AM  

You and the girls can even stop by starbucks.

That left a mark. Bazinga.

Anonymous VryeDenker February 26, 2014 9:47 AM  

Gee, that mister Lee sure is a wordsmith.

Anonymous Daniel February 26, 2014 9:51 AM  

Spike Lee said the exact same thing about Reggie Miller, and yet somehow, the Knicks still lost.

Blogger IM2L844 February 26, 2014 9:54 AM  

I'm inspired (not really) to write a problem-solution essay regarding the seemingly indestructible false god of Both Ways that is being worshiped in the leftist Church of Perpetual Cake. What is wrong with these people? This isn't rocket surgery!

Anonymous Alas February 26, 2014 10:07 AM  

He seems to think the word "motherfuckin’" adds extra power to his stupid thoughts.

Blogger Glen Filthie February 26, 2014 10:08 AM  


"VD, I apologize for the rough language, but this article made me very angry..."

Can't speak for our host, but as for me - no need to apologize. I've seen the same thing and only those of us raised in better times by better people can really appreciate what these morons have destroyed. The racists happen to be right about more things than they are wrong about - and Detroit is proof of that particular pudding. As is Baltimore, New Orleans, Washington DC and the entire continent of Africa.

Anonymous hardscrabble farmer February 26, 2014 10:08 AM  

"I mean, they just move in the neighborhood. You just can’t come in the neighborhood. I’m for democracy and letting everybody live but you gotta have some respect. You can’t just come in when people have a culture that’s been laid down for generations and you come in and now shit gotta change because you’re here? Get the fuck outta here. Can’t do that!"

Shoe, meet other foot.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni February 26, 2014 10:12 AM  

Yep. We whiteys should just stay in the suburbs and keep sending money. It's a plot to give the ghetto neighborhoods good schools, good roads and adequate policing. Which, of course, blacks can't provide for themselves, even if they get more funding than the suburbs. Because oppression. After all, internal immigration deprives obscene jive Negro filmmakers of things to complain about in their neighborhoods.

Anonymous hardscrabble farmer February 26, 2014 10:13 AM  

And for the record, Spike, my direct descendant was the first European child born on Manhattan island and my own daughter is named after her and WE had to leave OUR ancestoral homeland just so wecould live among our own kind who had decamped with the arrival of the replacement population.

Sometimes you have to cede ground your family once claimed as their own simply because the thought of remaining among the replacement people isn't going in your demographic favor.

Anonymous Krul February 26, 2014 10:13 AM  

Not quite as fun when you're on the receiving end, eh?

Anonymous Buckeyecopperhead February 26, 2014 10:14 AM  

"A guy like him should shut his face." Clint Eastwood on Spike Lee, 2008.

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 10:23 AM  

I want someone to post Spike Lee's home address and his children /grandchildren's schools address across the internet, as well as where his mother and father live now. Especially on shit like Craigslist.

After what that p.o.s. tried to do to George Zimmerman, he'd deserve what would be coming to him.

Spike Lee is a contemptible human being.

Anonymous Thales February 26, 2014 10:24 AM  

Shorter Spike Lee: "Black Privilege, mothafukas!"

Anonymous A. Nonymous February 26, 2014 10:28 AM  

Oh. You were angry? So you feel better after your little emotional outburst? maybe some retail therapy will help later. You and the girls can even stop by starbucks.

Paging Shut Up Nate...

Anonymous daddynichol February 26, 2014 10:36 AM  

BIFF! KA-POW! To da moon, Alice!

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 10:42 AM  

They almost have a point with their complaints about "white privilege." It's the elites -- mostly white, but also including the likes of Lee -- who are pushing for mass immigration across the southern border and using it to give them a buffer between their elite neighborhoods and the urban blight their policies have created. As Derb says, they've decided they feel safer having their menial labor done by small grateful, brown people than by large, resentful, black people. They've already wiped out most of the jobs that used to allow people in the 80-100 IQ range to make a decent living, by exporting them or filling them with cheaper mestizo immigrants.

If it weren't for the massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to blacks through affirmative action and welfare, blacks might have noticed those livelihoods being taken away. Now, if the cash stops flowing and they suddenly find they have no way to support themselves, they won't know whom to blame because the real damage was done decades ago. Presumably they'll blame white people somehow.

Anonymous SWPL February 26, 2014 10:46 AM  

Easy answer: exterminate all white people. Problem solved.

Anonymous DrTorch February 26, 2014 10:51 AM  

I never before looked at the equivalence between gentrification and immigration. It certainly is obvious.

The one difference might be this: the left actually wants gentrification too. But only in the form where wealthy/middle class people put in a lot of money to fix up neighborhoods, then just leave it for the existing residents. Because social justice. Or something.

Anonymous joe doakes February 26, 2014 10:54 AM  

Exact same thing on one sense, opposites in another. Yes, the people moving in destroy the existing culture. But sometimes, the result is more civilized, more orderly, more prosperous, safer and nicer (gentrification) whereas sometimes it's less civilized, less safe and poorer (Detroit). Depends on who's moving where.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 10:59 AM  

Black folks want to live together with black folks and do black folk things.

wow.

what a crazy concept.

Folks... voluntary segregation is a damned good thing. I sure as hell don't blame Spike for seeing that.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 10:59 AM  

The ones doing the gentrification are liberal whites, who want to move away from the suburbs. They don't want to fix it up and leave it to the minorities.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother February 26, 2014 10:59 AM  

I'm the privilege Shitlord! 200! I will oppress you with my privilege!

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 11:02 AM  

Not on me, it didn't.

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 11:02 AM  

Personally, I would like to see a fence along the Potomac to keep Northerners from moving into Virginia. And tell all the snowbirds going back and forth to Florida from the North East to "go around".

Blogger IM2L844 February 26, 2014 11:05 AM  

"and now shit gotta change because you’re here?"

Ya gotta fight, Spike! Fight for the decriminalization of segregation (X-only) policies, within certain parameters*, for all unincorporated, privately funded, owned and administered organizations and endeavors (i.e., neighborhood associations with the ability to enforce X-only restrictive covenants). You can do it, brotha. I'm rooting for you! The implementation of the de jure ability of all races, genders, age groups and sexual orientations to exercise selective freedom of association however they see fit solves more problems for everyone than it creates.

* Not created with a specific concomitant purpose of intentionally inciting disparagement or intimidation.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 11:05 AM  

"I'm the privilege Shitlord! 200! I will oppress you with my privilege!"

210. I'm a greater ShitLord.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 11:05 AM  

I think a big part of the problem with black inner cities turning into shit goes back to blacks moving up North to Yankee hell and bringing their Yankee habits back South. It's not just a binary black/white thing.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 11:14 AM  

"I think a big part of the problem with black inner cities turning into shit goes back to blacks moving up North to Yankee hell and bringing their Yankee habits back South."

yep.

Look at Memphis... which has a very large population of chicago blacks that have moved back south.

Anonymous Pseudo-Nate February 26, 2014 11:19 AM  

The greatest part of Spike Lee and his movies, like Do The Right Thing, was that even in an argument designed to make the audience maximally sympathize with his point, he STILL makes a very compelling argument against it. In the movie the major conflict is incited first by a black character arguing with the white pizza parlor owner that he HAD to put a black man up on his wall of fame. Then later, the same black man and his friend (who is blasting his boombox) enter the pizza parlor and refuse to turn down the music, and take up the side of the black employee in a private dispute over a wage advance. The owner's frustration, brought on by the black men's insistence on arguing by yelling over him and switching from one gripe to the other, causes him to lose his temper and yell a racial slur at him. This is naturally enough provocation in this case for the boom box wielding gentleman to try to choke him to death, which he is stopped from doing. Then when the police show up the two upstanding youths fight with them, resulting in one's death from a choke hold. Then when they leave a mob of angry blacks descend on the parlor owner and his sons intending to attack them before the black employee tosses a trash can through the window, leading to the mob destroying it. So what exact part of this DOESN'T seem like the blacks are in the wrong and reacted way above what was needed for every situation>?

Also he was quoted as saying in response to a review that worried this could incite a black audience to violence ah it implied "that black audiences were incapable of restraining themselves while watching a fictional motion picture." well isn't that what the motion picture showed?

As well, he stated "he has only ever been asked by white viewers whether Mookie did the right thing; black viewers do not ask the question" because " viewers who question the riot's justification are implicitly valuing white property over the life of a black man". So basically in his mind, his movies are a test where anybody who doesn't view reality the way he does, is a racist.

So that should give some idea why this stupid jugfucker acts the way he does...

Anonymous A Visitor February 26, 2014 11:24 AM  

It's like Sailer once said something to the effect of, "Every nation has been a nation of immigrants. Nowhere in history have people spontaneously sprouted out of the ground." I knew people lived in Lee's neighborhood before "mother 19 fuckin' 68" but I did not know whom. It's always nice to learn more about the history of cities. It's in learning the history of my family and where they lived that I can gain a deeper appreciation for where I live. I can't remember where I read it, may have been at VanishingAmerican or elsewhere, that most blacks in the U.S. are actually not descendants of slaves.

To Lee's point at the end, they're better because a more industrious people have move in. Sorry, but that's the truth. You openly admitted since 1968, using that as the marker since your dad has lived there since then, that blacks have lived there. Maybe if you stopped calling each other white for trying to act like decent human beings, stopped glorifying ghetto culture, drug pushing, prostitution...oh wait, I'm white boy. You won't listen to me. Keep on keepin' on then.

As far as illegal aliens are concerned, they still, despite having a Mexican consulate in the city now, have not made much headway thankfully. The same unfortunately cannot be said for a small town ten miles outside of Lafayette. When I visited there my senior year of undergrad for a field project, there seemed to be more Mexicans than there were natives.

Blogger IM2L844 February 26, 2014 11:26 AM  

"that black audiences were incapable of restraining themselves while watching a fictional motion picture."

Anyone who has tried to watch a movie in a theater full of blacks knows this is true.

Anonymous Toddy Cat February 26, 2014 11:35 AM  

Golly, Nate, I learned something today! I sure see the error of my racist ways now. Gee whilikers, Blacks are right. Blacks are always right. And if it looks like they're wrong, or hypocritical, that's just white privilige talking. And the obvious way to make things up with black people is to turn the country over to brown people who hate them! Got it!

Anonymous hygate February 26, 2014 11:38 AM  

"As well, he stated "he has only ever been asked by white viewers whether Mookie did the right thing; black viewers do not ask the question" because " viewers who question the riot's justification are implicitly valuing white property over the life of a black man"."

Cause destroying a business and source of employment, thereby further impoverishing the neighborhood, totally brings people back to life. Everybody knows that.

The point of the movie is that blacks have demands and you better accede to them cause if you don't there's going to be a riot.

Anonymous WinstonWebb February 26, 2014 11:39 AM  

Toddy Cat February 26, 2014 11:35 AM
Golly, Nate, I learned something today! I sure see the error of my racist ways now. Gee whilikers, Blacks are right.


Yes, in this case they absolutely are. If blacks want to live in black neighborhoods then they should absolutely have the ability to do so.
So should Asians.
And Mexicans.
And Caucasians.

Freedom of Association is really not a difficult concept.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 11:40 AM  

Hey shibes, who are spike lee's people?

Are you really saying that jazz musicians, film makers, and moorehouse grads destroyed your Dallas neighborhood?

Anonymous xxx February 26, 2014 11:42 AM  

OT - Vox you might like:

120 Scientific Papers Withdrawn After Being Proven to be Gibberish.No, Actual Computer-Generated Gibberish. http://bit.ly/1khd5xH

So, some scientists at MIT had invented a program called "SCIgen" to generate, by computer, random scientific-sounding papers. They did this for amusement.

But people (especially in China, apparently) have been using the program to generate papers and then submit them to actual scientific publishers' subscription services. http://minx.cc/?post=347439

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 11:42 AM  

"Golly, Nate, I learned something today! I sure see the error of my racist ways now. Gee whilikers, Blacks are right."

Oh shut up moron. Just because I didn't go on some giant idiotic rant like Shibes doesn't mean I hate white people.

of course there is a "taste of your own medicine" aspect of this story. I pointed that out in the very first comment. Unless the definition of the word "irony" is over your head you should've figured that out.

The problem I have with people like shibes is they let their own anger get the best of them and end up doing more harm than good. Which... amusingly enough... is typically a problem in the very population Shibe likes to attack.

Blogger Glen Filthie February 26, 2014 11:42 AM  

"I think a big part of the problem with black inner cities turning into shit goes back to blacks moving up North to Yankee hell and bringing their Yankee habits back South. It's not just a binary black/white thing...A-HYUK! A-HYUK! A-HYUK!"
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Except it isn't an 'inner city' thing anymore. Now entire cities are going down like Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, etc. Every black country in Africa is a third world shit hole. (Don't bring up South Africa, they are going down the same crapper other African nations have...they only have a few more swirls around the toilet bowl to do first.)


Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey February 26, 2014 11:52 AM  

I needed a translator, but I think the gist of his complaint is that he doesn't like white people.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 11:52 AM  

"Except it isn't an 'inner city' thing anymore. Now entire cities are going down like Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, etc."

Yep.

Which I note with no little amusement was exactly what the anti-abolishonists in the south predicted would happen if slavery was abolished all at once instead of gradually.

Congratulations yankee bitch. You got exactly what you deserved.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 11:54 AM  

No, the gist of his complaint is that he doesn't like white hipsters who move into black neighborhoods and start telling the blacks to stop doing things that blacks like to do.

Anonymous Toddy Cat February 26, 2014 11:55 AM  

I like the idea of a guy who thinks that calling someone "girls" is the height of wit and humor, and who wouldn't know the meaning of the word "irony" if it fell on his pointy head calling me a moron. Go take your meds, and calm down.

Anonymous fnn February 26, 2014 12:01 PM  

MLK Hit in Head by a Thrown Brick:Chicago 1966

Before the Great Ethnic Cleansing of the South Side

Anonymous Ferd February 26, 2014 12:02 PM  

Spike Lee has such a filthy mouth and a childish vocabulary. What is his IQ? Is it around room temperature?

And, this person has made award winning movies. Simply Amazing! I have never seen one of course. Probably too many African drums in it!

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 12:04 PM  

Please, someone get a fainting couch for Ferd to sit on while she recovers from the vapors.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:06 PM  

another thing worth pointing out... historically speaking... cities didn't up and turn into crime ridden hell holes in 1970. Cities have always been crime ridden hell holes. New York was a crime ridden hell hole in 1850.

Anonymous Porky February 26, 2014 12:06 PM  

But then, he left his dad who really appears to be a decent guy, to rot in the same neighborhood.

Why do you leftists think that unless there's a Starbucks, a sushi bar, an abortion clinic and a yoga studio in the neighborhood the people must be "rotting"?

We savages LIKE being savages. We don't aspire to be like you because you disgust us. Stop caring about us.


Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:08 PM  

"I like the idea of a guy who thinks that calling someone "girls" is the height of wit and humor, and who wouldn't know the meaning of the word "irony" if it fell on his pointy head calling me a moron. "

Its observable reality. In fact you just demonstrated it conclusively again... and likely have no idea how.

Anonymous Stilicho February 26, 2014 12:11 PM  

Spike Lee is a contemptible human being.

He's a thinking man's thinker...

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 12:16 PM  

Spike Lee has such a filthy mouth and a childish vocabulary. What is his IQ? Is it around room temperature?

He's just keepin' it real, man.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:18 PM  

someone brought up New Orleans... if you haven't been there since Katrina... wow. I mean there is a chunk of the city that is the same as it always has been... but there is a big section of the city that literally has just been abandoned. All services have stopped. I don't think its even on the power grid anymore. So its totally turned over to the gangs. Its literally gone feral.

Its pretty fascinating... from a distance.

Blogger Marissa February 26, 2014 12:18 PM  

I think my comment got eaten...just meant to say that an angry internet rant is pretty small fry compared the destruction wrought in American cities. It's even reflected in Lee's movie: white guy says mean thing to/about black people; blacks riot.

Anonymous Porky February 26, 2014 12:25 PM  

Its pretty fascinating... from a distance.

But it never remains 'from a distance', does it?

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 February 26, 2014 12:26 PM  

Congratulations yankee bitch. You got exactly what you deserved

Well, to be fair, she got what her great-great-grandparents deserved.

Anonymous Daniel February 26, 2014 12:30 PM  

I'm pretty sure Lee doesn't know what "bogart" means, or he would be using it the opposite way, as in: "We been here since 1968. We get to bogart what we had, if we want to."

He's declaring black bogart privileges, not arguing for sharing.

Brooklyn our spliff. We paid for it. We keep it if we wanna...and we gonna. So stop grabbing it, or we gonna call our moms.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 February 26, 2014 12:32 PM  

white guy says mean thing to/about black people; blacks riot

Worse, Mexicans riot when their sports teams win.
"Echo Park's on fire" they said. "Cruz Azul must've won."
But it's alright.
Also, blacks hate gays, so that aught to create some fun friction in the shift from hovel 'hood to hipster haven.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 12:33 PM  

Josh: Hey shibes, who are spike lee's people?

Negroes.

Are you really saying that jazz musicians, film makers, and moorehouse grads destroyed your Dallas neighborhood?

I am saying that Negroes destroyed my neighborhood.

Once again, Josh, your jejune attempts to bait me with adolescent rhetorical questions come to naught. I simply slice through them with the plain, honest truth and laugh as you slink away.

Face it: I dominate you at every level. Instead of dorm-room sophistry, maybe you should try acknowledging the reality of race relations in America. Then, with open eyes, you might eventually see your way to the obvious solution to the race problem, as the rest of us have.

Anonymous Salt February 26, 2014 12:33 PM  

One aspect Spike has to get a grip on, that poorer areas often become magnets for investment money and upward mobility. How property taxes are determined is a major effect too. It doesn't necessarily take many incomming to begin the long haul towards being forced out.

Blogger IM2L844 February 26, 2014 12:38 PM  

How property taxes are determined is a major effect too.

Exactly.

Spike: "So, why did it take this great influx of white people to get the schools better? Why’s there more police protection in Bed Stuy and Harlem now? Why’s the garbage getting picked up more regularly? We been here!

All right, go ahead. Let’s see you come back to that."


A: Property taxes.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 12:39 PM  

Hey, white folks: we aren't allowed to get mad at Negroes, so cut it out. From now on, let us discuss the genocide of our kind in the hushed tones of an NPR reporter. If we must be driven from our own land, let us do so with quiet dignity. Nate has spoken.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:39 PM  

"Once again, Josh, your jejune attempts to bait me with adolescent rhetorical questions come to naught. I simply slice through them with the plain, honest truth and laugh as you slink away."

No. Once again you over-simplfy a problem and think that because you can say "blacks are bad" you impressed someone.

The people that ruined your neighborhood have about as much in common with spike lee as you do with Erik the Red. Spike Lee is an ultra rich liberal. He's got more in common with Al Gore than he does with Tyrone selling coke on the corner.

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 12:41 PM  

So - if Mexico is to be saved, it will have to be by millions of white, middle-class Americans moving down there and changing the culture away from one of corruption, misery, socialism, and apathy...

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 12:42 PM  

Here's an article right up VD's alley - Publishers withdraw more than 120 gibberish papers

Not gibberish as in "I don't agree with the results," but gibberish as in "generated by computers in China."

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:42 PM  

"From now on, let us discuss the genocide of our kind in the hushed tones of an NPR reporter. If we must be driven from our own land, let us do so with quiet dignity. Nate has spoken."

If you're gonna complain about people chimping out... you lose some credibility if you're chimping out too.

Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Blogger Marissa February 26, 2014 12:43 PM  

The problem is that Lee encourages the bad behavior that ruins neighborhoods. It's like the UMCs who live conservatively and push their progressive notions of illegitimacy and divorce onto the lower classes.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:43 PM  

"All right, go ahead. Let’s see you come back to that."

A: Property taxes."

RACIS!

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 12:45 PM  

So, shibes, all negroes are the same, all whites are the same?

And you think you're the one with a solid grasp on race relations?

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey February 26, 2014 12:47 PM  

I'm willing to bet Spike Lee simply doesn't like White people, period.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 12:48 PM  

Nate: blah blah blah NO YOU HAVENT blah blah ERIK THE RED something something O MATER WHAT A CLEVAH BOY I AM blah blah KUM BAH YAH MY LORD KUM BAH YAH blah blah YOU A RACISS

Nate, only a fool would attempt to reply to my comments when it is obvious that I do not give a tinker's damn about his opinion on on any topic.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey February 26, 2014 12:49 PM  

How does a bogart differ from, say, a grant or a stewart?

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 12:52 PM  

Got that, mofos? It's not an electric bass! It's ACOUSTIC!

Dumbass crackers.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 12:53 PM  

The irony of white nationalists complaining about a black man who wants to keep a black neighborhood black.

I am amused.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 12:56 PM  

"Nate, only a fool would attempt to reply to my comments when it is obvious that I do not give a tinker's damn about his opinion on on any topic."

and only a narcissistic navel gazing omega thinks this is actually about him.

Anonymous Acoustic Bass February 26, 2014 1:02 PM  

Hey mofos, can't we all just get along?

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 1:22 PM  

The irony of white nationalists complaining about a black man who wants to keep a black neighborhood black.

No, what rankles is a black man who wants to keep a black neighborhood black--while simultaneously laying claim to white neighborhoods, white cities, white civilization, white culture, white women, and on and on.

Nome sane, bro?

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 1:24 PM  

And where did spike lee do that in his rant?

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 1:26 PM  

Also, yidster, didn't you know that one of the reasons spike had a falling out with his dad was because his dad's second marriage was interracial?

Tell me again how spike lee is all about getting him some sweet white mudshark ass?

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 1:28 PM  

The irony of a black man kvetching about the white man living in "his" neighborhood in a city founded by the white man, in a country founded by the white man, in a magazine founded by the white man, using technologies founded by the white man, escapes you. Spike Lee's very presence in our collective consciousness is a rude imposition.

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 1:29 PM  

Oy vey, the IRONY.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 1:31 PM  

"Collective consciousness"

Commie

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 1:32 PM  

Wow. Just wow.

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 1:35 PM  

So, you don't think blacks should live in the united states?

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 1:36 PM  

"The irony of a black man kvetching about the white man living in "his" neighborhood in a city founded by the white man, in a country founded by the white man, in a magazine founded by the white man, using technologies founded by the white man, escapes you."

Kvetching?

speaking of irony...

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 1:38 PM  

Nate, how anti-semitic of you!

Stop noticing things!

Anonymous Stilicho February 26, 2014 1:40 PM  

So, you don't think blacks should live in the united states?

They've got an entire continent and now they want half of another? That's just greedy. Think of the trees. And children.

Anonymous Tawmmy from Quinzee February 26, 2014 1:42 PM  

YIDSTER IS NAWT A TRUE FACKING GRITTY WHITE NATIONALIST! HE IS A FACKING SAND DAHKIE JEWBAG QUEEAH! HE LIKES TO WATCH WOODY ALLEN MOVIES ABOUT GAY QUEEAH NAROTIC FAGGOTS INSTEAD OF REAL MOVIES LIKE THE TOWN AND THE DEPAHTAHD AND THE FIGHTAH!

NEW YAWK IS NAWT AS GRITTY OAH AS WHITE AS OWAH FAYAH CITY OF BAHSTAHN! NO ONE DENIES THIS!

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 1:54 PM  

Tawmmy... didn't you forget about Boondock Saints?

Anonymous Tawmmy from Quinzee February 26, 2014 2:02 PM  

THANK YOU YOU FACKING GINGAH REDNECK GREEK BOY LOVAH FOAH REMINEDING ME ABOUT ANOTHAH CLASSIC GRITTY MOVIE ABOUT HOW WE AH GRITTIEAH AND TOUGHAH THAN THOSE NEW YAHK FAGGOTS!

YANKEES SUCK! YANKEES SUCK!

MY REDNECK READAHS AH SMAHTAH THAN YOUAH REDNECK READAHS! NO ONE DENIES THIS!

Anonymous Bobo February 26, 2014 2:11 PM  

New Orleans, given enough time, can convert almost any white libtard into at least a closet racist/realist.
Except the few like my sissie commie bro-n-law...he'll die wif a bruther beating him to death wif a steel pipe, still assured that it's his own fault.
Or more likely, it's my fault, for not be lovin da nigs enuf.

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 2:14 PM  

"New Orleans, given enough time, can convert almost any white libtard into at least a closet racist/realist."

Memphis will do the same thing. I knew a guy that moved there... dude was a classic churchian type... thought MLK was awesome and Lincoln was the greatest president ever.

I saw him a couple of years after he moved to memphis and he flat out hated blacks.

Anonymous Judge Dredd February 26, 2014 2:18 PM  

Not to worry YKWs, this black turd STILL HATES YT more than he hates meskins or mestizos as they are called. He believes he's in a black world cause some darkie be in the White House en sheeit. Nomeisayin'?
CIVIL WAR 2 will clear this Right Up for him and the YKWs. Trust me...

Blogger Nate February 26, 2014 2:35 PM  

"Not to worry YKWs, this black turd STILL HATES YT more than he hates meskins or mestizos as they are called. He believes he's in a black world cause some darkie be in the White House en sheeit. Nomeisayin'?
CIVIL WAR 2 will clear this Right Up for him and the YKWs. Trust me..."

Can someone translate this?

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2014 2:38 PM  

I think it's a white man writing the way he imagines that black men talk.

Unfortunately, judge dredd does not speak jive.

Blogger Marissa February 26, 2014 2:39 PM  

I think YT means yours truly?

Blogger Venus R Becky February 26, 2014 2:41 PM  

His writing makes my brain hurt.

Anonymous Pseudo-Nate February 26, 2014 2:42 PM  

Porky
Stop caring about us.

Way ahead of you, Porky..

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 2:45 PM  

"New Orleans, given enough time, can convert almost any white libtard into at least a closet racist/realist."

The military did it to a hard-core liberal I knew. He went away a perfect product of the public schools, believing everything he'd been taught about racial equality, the white man is bad, etc. He came back ready to tell everyone who would listen how all the blacks he knew in the military were lazy and stupid. It was quite the transformation. I'm not sure integration works quite like they think it does, at least in peacetime like when he was in.

Anonymous kh123 February 26, 2014 2:47 PM  

What, no Eddie Coyle, Tawmmy.

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 2:52 PM  

Limousine liberals only care about other people's racism. They had no qualms about busting up white working class neighborhoods with projects and busing. Those complaining about Boom boom music were painted as haters.

Now that they are in the way, blacks will lose protected status except to further eviscerate the white working class.

Learning

Blogger Bogey February 26, 2014 3:08 PM  

The only thing I kept thinking the whole time I was reading this "thank God I don't live in New York where grass is only allowed to grow in its designated areas."

Blogger Bogey February 26, 2014 3:13 PM  

"Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!"

Thanks Isaiah, duly noted and gladly staying away from that crap.

Anonymous Daniel February 26, 2014 3:16 PM  

They've got an entire continent and now they want half of another? That's just greedy. Think of the trees. And children.

Hey, African descendants: stop bogarting the U.S. spliff! Especially when you've got some sweet Zambian Haze just overflowing in your own stash! Time to let someone else have a turn on the Sonoma Coma train.

Anonymous realmatt February 26, 2014 3:17 PM  

You're wrong about just one thing Vox..THE CONSEQUENCES WILL [I]NEVER[/I] BE THE SAME!

I doubt Spike Lee will ever realize he just made a case agaibst immigration.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow February 26, 2014 3:52 PM  

The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk;
I cannot feel his mind.
I see his face and eyes and mouth,
But not the soul behind,.
The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
They are used to the lies I tell,
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.

The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good;
But I cannot tell what powers control,
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear;
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes,
They think the same of me.

This was my father’s belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children’s teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.

- Kipling, "The Stranger "
April 1908

Blogger Robert What? February 26, 2014 4:02 PM  

I've been to Brooklyn many times, and you want to know the funniest irony about Spike Lee's complaint? The vast majority of the the "gentrification" consist of white left wing Democrats. You know: the champions of the Black man and the down trodden - as long as its with someone else's money and in someone else's neighborhood.

Blogger John Williams February 26, 2014 4:03 PM  

I'm willing to bet Spike Lee simply doesn't like White people, period.
I can imagine that Spike's brain would turn insideout if he ever met a black Jew.

Anonymous Krul February 26, 2014 4:13 PM  

ajw308 - I can imagine that Spike's brain would turn insideout if he ever met a black Jew.

What do you call that? A Jack? A Blew? Heblack? Blebrew?

Blogger James Dixon February 26, 2014 4:18 PM  

> What do you call that? A Jack? A Blew? Heblack? Blebrew?

Sammy Davis, Jr.

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2014 5:08 PM  

On that note, time for my favorite joke:

What's the worst thing about being a black jew?

They make you sit in the back of the oven.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey February 26, 2014 5:12 PM  

roflmao

Anonymous Contaminated NEET February 26, 2014 6:25 PM  

Why the anger, people? OK, I understand why, but still, Spike is agreeing with us here. Let him.

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 6:28 PM  

So, you don't think whites should live in the united states?

Anonymous Heh February 26, 2014 6:40 PM  

Yidster is too stupid to realize he is making Vox's point for him.

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 6:45 PM  

The IRONY is overwhelming.

Preach on, brother Lee!

Anonymous Stilicho February 26, 2014 6:56 PM  

But I cannot tell what powers control,
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.


In the century since this was written, we have learned that, though they may be quiet for a time, they never willingly relinquish possession.

Anonymous Yidster February 26, 2014 6:57 PM  

Spike Lee--kvetching about white guys living in "his" neighborhood.

He says this while sitting in a structure founded by the white man, using technologies founded by the white man, in a city founded by the white man, in a state founded by the white man, in a country founded by the white man, in a civilization founded by the white man. And on and on and on.

This black boy is absurd.

The IRONY of this situation is inescapable.

Blogger CostelloM February 26, 2014 7:30 PM  

With such a well penned, eloquent statement like this I am sure Mr. Jones will gain a lot of traction with those who he is irate with. I seem to remember a similar migration, or several actually, that usually involved section 8 folk coming into once peaceful neighborhoods which then promptly turned into cesspools of crime and violence. Now we are supposed to feel sorry that he can't play the drums at 3 in the morning? We be "disrespectin" are we? No sympathy. None.

Blogger Outlaw X February 26, 2014 8:54 PM  

I know how he feels. in 2000 when I moved with a promotion to Fort Worth there was very little traffic but now that all the dumb Yankees have chased the jobs to TX this place is getting a lot of traffic and asshole drivers. I am sick of them and their attitude. When I went today to vote in early voting the lady signing in in front of me asked for the Democrat primary ballot. Me and her left at the same time and she walked up to a car that still had NY plates on it. I told her she just wasted her time. She gave me a puzzled look so I told her I can see you are new here. Not one democrat will win in this district in Tarrant county. She said "how do you know". I said I am not new here and I am not a Yankee. It really pissed her off, I shouldn't have done it but couldn't help myself.

Blogger tz February 26, 2014 9:43 PM  

Spike Lee apparently lived in a F-bombed out neighborhood.

Given the verbal effluvium, will no one claim eminent domain to install a working sewage system?

As to the point on immigration, the question is if the "immigrant" is of a different set of values or culture than you are.

I would rather have every member of the Blacks for Ayn Rand club move in than any silly lily white limousine liberal from NYC. I would rather have the industrious Asians than the socialist Europeans. Better gay libertarians than conservative, warmongering fascist Catholics.

Libertarians need to be aware of the paradox of tolerance. They must be more vigilant and intolerant of those who would not tolerate liberty. Liberty must be the first thing. That which admits no dissent. There are those who would use freedom to enslave others. They need to be quarantined or eliminated.

Anonymous Michael of Charlotte February 26, 2014 9:46 PM  

Spike Lee, doing the job the Republican party simply will not do.

Blogger The Anti-Gnostic February 26, 2014 10:28 PM  

The irony of white nationalists complaining about a black man who wants to keep a black neighborhood black.

Black neighborhoods for blacks, Little Italy, Chinatown, white neighborhoods for everybody. Spike Lee is a pathetic hypocrite.

Anonymous Frank Furdek February 26, 2014 11:03 PM  

So, the libertarian way demands jackbooting those individuals who threaten to take away people's freedom. Thanks, tz, for the clarification.

Blogger James Higham February 26, 2014 11:07 PM  

Gentrification, immigration, and colonization are all exactly the same thing.

... in their effect.

Anonymous Yidster February 27, 2014 2:50 AM  

No response?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

lulz

Anonymous Toby Temple February 27, 2014 3:09 AM  

I am amused. ~eats popcorn~

I really like the part where Lee is wondering why when there is more white people, garbage are getting picked up regularly and the schools get better.

Anonymous E. PERLINE February 27, 2014 9:01 AM  

I told you so. The human condition is undermined by anger. Black people are especially angry. Their anger shows in their invective and their rejection of reasonable thought.

Here is how real or imagined prejudice can be thwarted: Meet all abuse with forgiving or self-deprecating humor. By becoming impervious to anger, the former victims will get a ton of gratitude from their abusers. And they will avoid getting many autoimmune diseases too.

But don't worry. Contemporaries will call this Uncle Tomism and continue the madness.

Anonymous E. PERLINE February 27, 2014 9:07 AM  

Have you noticed that the big issues of the word wide recession have fragmented into a bunch of small issues? Are we in a 3 years more kind of torpor?

Anonymous Anonymous February 27, 2014 9:10 AM  

I would rather have every member of the Blacks for Ayn Rand club move in than any silly lily white limousine liberal from NYC. I would rather have the industrious Asians than the socialist Europeans. Better gay libertarians than conservative, warmongering fascist Catholics.

I like the idea of treating people as individuals and welcoming the well-behaved and responsible into a community regardless of their skin color or behind-closed-doors diversions. But when you're talking about groups of people rather than individuals, you have to be practical and look at group behavior extrapolated into the future. Those groups you favor might make great neighbors now, but what about their children or recruits? How long will it take for your mythical "Blacks for Ayn Rand" to be replaced by standard-issue pro-government, Democrat voters? A few might be harmless, but too many will bring destruction. Fill your neighborhood with cultural outliers, and you have one generation, maybe two, before they regress to the mean of their groups and take your libertarian paradise away from you.

The fascist Catholics (whatever that is) and socialist Europeans might not be perfect, but at least they won't get worse in a generation. Look at what's happening to places like Minneapolis: founded by socialist-leaning Northern Europeans, and got along pretty darn well for decades, and now one injection of African refugees -- people who, culturally, one might expect to be grateful and try to fit in -- are doing more damage in a few years than all those decades of soft socialism.

It's nice to think culture trumps race, but it just doesn't except for rare individuals, and that trait isn't reliably hereditary. Blame it on AA and other preferences, if that helps: as long as the state spends billions to bribe non-whites to support its growth, most of them will. If that's more palatable than saying HBD rules over all, go with it.

Anonymous Skillet February 27, 2014 9:43 AM  

I heard the story of a far eastern TN town where a black family moved. Standard middle class family with a couple of kids. After a couple of weeks of no one in town talking to them and refusing to do business with them someone finally told them even though they may be nice folks their kind wasn't wanted in that town and they need to be moving on. They left pretty quick. Just like Deputy Fife used to say, you see a problem sometimes you gotta nip it in the bud. I'm sure they were a nice family, but when the cousins, nephews, and homies come to visit with their hip hop gangsta garb and all their hos and bastard younguns you realize real quick how one small infiltration can led to a full-on infection. Better to not even crack the door open in the first place.

Blogger Akulkis February 27, 2014 12:41 PM  

"I think a big part of the problem with black inner cities turning into shit goes back to blacks moving up North to Yankee hell and bringing their Yankee habits back South. It's not just a binary black/white thing."

I don't know. Most of the blacks in Detroit are from the south. The ones who have lived up north their entire lives maintain their properties. It's the transplants from the Carolinas and Mississippi and Louisiana who don't do a thing to fix a leaky roof, etc (or if they rent, to even tell the landlord that it leaks), which has lead to hundreds of thousands of once-beautiful homes in Detroit having to be destroyed after the water damage from rain and snow gets to the points of collapsing walls.

Blogger Haus frau February 27, 2014 12:58 PM  

Funny thing, the big allure of these black neighborhoods is the fact blacks have already driven the property values down so low that white artistic types and young professionals find them worth fixing up. If blacks wanted to keep the whites out they could always have put in their own efforts to keep property values up.

Anonymous A Plate of Shrimp February 27, 2014 12:59 PM  

"The irony of white nationalists complaining about a black man who wants to keep a black neighborhood black."

What a stupid thing to say. If whites were permitted to keep white neighborhoods white then WNs wouldn't be complaining. Or if they did, then there would be irony. As it stands, all we have here is bitter reality.

"I would rather have every member of the Blacks for Ayn Rand club move in"

Both of them?

Anonymous Hold That Ghost February 27, 2014 1:01 PM  

"I think a big part of the problem with black inner cities turning into shit goes back to blacks moving up North to Yankee hell and bringing their Yankee habits back South. It's not just a binary black/white thing."

Sure it is. I'm from up North. Trust me, northern blacks don't have any Yankee habits. Hell, they don't even have any Mets habits.

Anonymous Anonymous February 27, 2014 3:44 PM  

"the fact blacks have already driven the property values down so low that white artistic types and young professionals find them worth fixing up"

Ah, the cycle of creative destruction. Just as microbes break down the leaves of the fall to create nutriments for the plants of the spring.

Blogger Baloo February 27, 2014 4:21 PM  

Wonderful post! I got two quibcags out if it, a record.
Spike Lee and gentrification and Vox Day's reaction.

Blogger Akulkis February 27, 2014 7:07 PM  

"The ones doing the gentrification are liberal whites, who want to move away from the suburbs. They don't want to fix it up and leave it to the minorities."

The liberal whites want to be able to say that they live around blacks. They don't want to actually allow the same blacks to LIVE around liberals' new digs in the outer ghettos.

The funniest part is, most of these "liberal whites" who Spike Lee is complaining about their complaints about things like black people playing drums in the public park are the same Jewish folk who promote the "everyone's culture is equal" multiculti nonsense. Otherwise, why would they be fleeing the suburbs to live on the outskirts of the ghetto?

Anonymous WIlliam Tell February 27, 2014 9:07 PM  

“But when you're talking about groups of people rather than individuals, you have to be practical and look at group behavior extrapolated into the future.”

Sweeping generalization that rests on a predetermined set of suppositions. ‘Nuff said.


“Those groups you favor might make great neighbors now, but what about their children or recruits?”



So, denying opportunities to individuals to live where they want on their own volition--people who are making the “right choices”--because of the POTENTIAL that the actions of their relatives and friends will undeniably lead to unwanted consequences is warranted? Right, better be safe than sorry (rolling of eyes).


“How long will it take for your mythical "Blacks for Ayn Rand" to be replaced by standard-issue pro-government, Democrat voters?”

How long will it take for your mythical “I’m a libertarian who just wants to be left alone and do not care if you live next to me as long as you don’t infringe upon my freedom” to jackboot anyone who fails to measure up to your standards? Fascist.


“Look at what's happening to places like Minneapolis: founded by socialist-leaning Northern Europeans, and got along pretty darn well for decades, and now one injection of African refugees -- people who, culturally, one might expect to be grateful and try to fit in -- are doing more damage in a few years than all those decades of soft socialism.”

Right, because Islam. You do realize that private groups such as Lutheran Social Services, Catholic Charities, and World Relief Minnesota, exercising their “freedom of association”, helped to bring in a displaced group? Are you going to force them to not engage in their missionary work because of the supposed “undesirable” qualities of those who they are trying to assist?


“A few might be harmless, but too many will bring destruction”.

Exactly! Just ask the Native Americans who were beaten into submission by European Christians--all in the name of God.

Correct! Because in my neighborhood of “vibrants” over the past two decades, their relatives and friends shoot their guns in the air, wear their pants down to their ankles, have tons of interracial kids, and cannot even recite the First Amendment.


“Fill your neighborhood with cultural outliers, and you have one generation, maybe two, before they regress to the mean of their groups and take your libertarian paradise away from you.”

Or, one could revert back to the “good old days” of legalized segregation. Ah, memories...


“someone finally told them even though they may be nice folks their kind wasn't wanted in that town and they need to be moving on.”

Oh, the irony--libertarians resorting to coercive means to keep out the “riff raff”.


“If blacks wanted to keep the whites out they could always have put in their own efforts to keep property values up.”

Perhaps we ought to take a page out of the Indian playbook.

http://www.shelterforce.org/article/3336/what_mumbais_slums_do_right_and_why_we_should_emulate_them/

Anonymous Vacant Serif February 28, 2014 4:24 AM  

Nate = Josh

Anonymous Skillet February 28, 2014 10:08 AM  

Billy T, engage the brain before the keyboard. I never said I was a libertarian, nor did the people in that town.

Anonymous William Tell February 28, 2014 11:49 PM  

“Billy T, engage the brain before the keyboard. I never said I was a libertarian, nor did the people in that town.”

Regardless, the actions of the townsfolk, and your support of their conduct, is fascist.

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