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Tuesday, February 11, 2014

The abolition of America

Norway is already showing signs of following Switzerland's lead to shut down the economic and societal castastrophe of mass immigration.
Mazyar Keshvari, immigration policy spokesman for the anti-immigration Progress Party, told the VG newspaper that he believed Norway should follow Switzerland's example. "Norway should also have a referendum on immigration," he said. "I am quite sure that there is majority support for tightening immigration across Norway's political parties. The polls show that."
No doubt this is one reason why. It simply IS NOT TRUE that mass immigration is good for the economy. It is an absolute lie.
The report, Sustainable Immigration, was put together by some of the party's most vehemently anti-Islamic and anti-immigration figures, such as deputy leader Per Sandberg, and Oslo politician Christian Tybring-Gjedde. It cites figures that show that each non-Western immigrant costs the equivalent of 42 years of an average Norwegian's tax payments, and calls for immigration from non-Western countries to be sharply reduced from from close to 20,000 a year to about 1,500 a year.
Meanwhile, the most retarded "economist" on the planet, an evil little man who makes Paul Krugman look like a paragon of coherency and decency, managed to further embarrass himself in response to the Swiss vote:
The Swiss just passed a referendum to restrict immigration from the EU.  Tyler thinks this shows that open borders is a hopeless cause.  When immigration gets too high, public opinion naturally turns against immigration.

"In my view immigration has gone well for Switzerland, both economically and culturally, and I am sorry to see this happen, even apart from the fact that it may cause a crisis in their relations with the European Union.  That said, you can take 27% as a kind of benchmark for the limits of immigration in most or all of today's wealthy countries.  I believe that as you approach a number in that range, you get a backlash."

But there's a major problem with Tyler's story: Swiss anti-immigration voting was highest in the places with the least immigrants!  This is no fluke.  In the U.S., anti-immigration sentiment is highest in the states with the least immigration - even if you assume that 100% of immigrants are pro-immigration.

The natural inference to draw, then, is the opposite of Tyler's: The main hurdle to further immigration is insufficient immigration.  If countries could just get over the hump of status quo bias, anti-immigration attitudes would become as socially unacceptable as domestic racism.  Instead of coddling nativism with gradualism, we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism.
This is Hitlerian logic and it makes clear the evil objectives of the pro-immigrationists like Caplan. Switzerland already has a non-native born population pushing 30 percent, most of which lives around Zurich or in the French-speaking cantons. It is those previously naturalized immigrants, combined with the international business class, that supported open immigration, just as a pair of Jewish and Irish third-generation immigrants were primarily responsible for pushing the 1965 Hart-Cellar Act that demolished the USA's demographics and made the dissolution of the union inevitable.

It's the Denny Green syndrome writ large. Just as women always want to hire more women and blacks always want to bring in more blacks, immigrants always want to bring in more immigrants to make themselves feel more at home. I see this all the time, in fact, I'm one of the very few expats who doesn't primarily socialize with people from my home country.

The voting phenomenon Caplan is observing is simply the national equivalent of "white flight", and what he is advocating is nothing less than the invasion and demographic destruction of European nations.

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Anonymous Catan February 11, 2014 8:24 AM  

Abolitionism. Abolition of what? Your culture and identity, of course.

In favor of what? Some mysterious negative non-identity, non-culture?

Do we see the immigrants giving up their culture for this non-identity? Of course not. After all, they still retain ties to their homeland. After you get abolished, you're not even going to have a homeland.

It's only racist to want a homeland if you are white, apparently.

Anonymous Harsh February 11, 2014 8:37 AM  

It's only racist to want a homeland if you are white, apparently.

It's also racist to say that you're white, so knock it off.

Anonymous VD February 11, 2014 8:41 AM  

Here is the third-generation immigrant primarily responsible for destroying the American nation:

Emanuel Celler made his first important speech on the House floor during consideration of the Johnson Immigration Act of 1924. Three years earlier, Congress had imposed a quota that limited immigration for persons of any nationality to 3 percent of that nationality present in the United States in 1910, with an annual admission limit of 356,000 immigrants. This national origin system was structured to preserve the ethnic and religious status quo of the United States by reducing immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe, thereby excluding many Jews, Catholics, Italians, and others. Celler was vehemently opposed to the Johnson act, which passed the isolationist Congress and was signed into law. Celler had found his cause and for the next four decades he vigorously spoke out in favor of eliminating the national origin quotas as a basis for immigration restriction.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2014 February 11, 2014 8:43 AM  

The argument is as simple as this:
Who would you have come and live in your own home?
Regardless of whether or not you can afford to feed them. Regardless of whether or not you have the rooms, cooking facilities, utilities, infrastructure.

Who would you have live under your own roof in your own home?

Someone who agrees with you, respects and obeys your rules, observes your property rights, moderates their conduct or someone who does not do those things.

But ignoring all of this, there is something more important. At what altars do you worship.

For in ancient wisdom, and in biblical plain speech writ large: two cannot walk as one unless they be agreed. Amos 3.3. On such an axis history turns.

Anonymous Peter Garstig February 11, 2014 8:46 AM  

Instead of coddling nativism with gradualism, we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism.

For once, it's clearly stated for what the objective is: to abolish native culture.

Anonymous Stilicho February 11, 2014 8:47 AM  

locust gonna locust

Anonymous Catan February 11, 2014 8:57 AM  

What astonishes me is they don't even realize that they will be the ones displaced right after their target. Immigrants couldn't possibly care less about self-hating white rabbits and will kick them out of power as soon as practicable.

It must take an uncanny level of self deception to not realize this. Blows my mind how they actually believe that immigrants will happily assimilate into their non-culture, non-identity.

Anonymous Josh February 11, 2014 9:03 AM  

I wonder how the recent gun votes in Switzerland broke down by national origin.

Anonymous Salt February 11, 2014 9:04 AM  

I blame science. According to the fetishists, everything is due to science. Science destroys everything.

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 9:06 AM  

"Instead of coddling nativism with gradualism, we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism."

Got to destroy the middle class before we can bring back rule by aristocracy, oops I mean "meritocracy."

Of course mass immigration is only one of the methods used to accomplish this task. Other methods include:

1) Devaluing work
2) Mal-education of the middle class' children. Especially convincing them that they are learning critical thinking skills while, in fact, indoctrinating them to repeat simple, mindless slogans.
3) Related to number 2, convincing mal-educated youts with limited intelligence that going into permanent debt to acquire a college degree that is useful only in showing that you developed a taste for indoctrination in grade and high school so great that you are willing to pay for your own continued indoctrination is a good idea.
4) Destroy family and other institutions that can mediate between the individual and the state. Most especially any faith based institutions that posit a source of natural rights.
5) Partner with big business and banks to stifle competition through excessive regulation that is impossible for anyone to adhere to.

Any more?

Anonymous Peter Garstig February 11, 2014 9:08 AM  

One thing to understand about Switzerland is that while the number of immigrants is realtively high (officially ~35%), only a third of those actually possess citizenship and are therefore able to vote. In fact, the Swiss people declined the both the automatic naturalisation of 3rd generation immigrants as well as the easier naturalisatoin of 2nd generation immigrants. Despite this popoular vote, the naturalisation accelerated. It's also worth noting that naturalisation is controlled by the communes, and it's a well known fact which communes to choose for your naturalisation...

Anyway, some stats: http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/de/index/themen/01/07/blank/key/04.html

Persons with migration background: someone immigrated into Switzerland or someone where one or both parents immigrated to Switzerland. So this statistics _excludes_ immigrants from 2nd, third, etc generations.

34.7% of all people in Switzerland have migration background as defined above. A third of those are Swiss citizens (12.7% in total) and could therefore vote (of course, if they're older than 18)...let's say 10%. Assuming the same participation as the rest of Switzerland (around 56%) and further assuming that most voted pro-immigratoin, we can assume that the actual vote of people without migration background was 55%).

The trouble with the above is the following: the immigration peaks were the years right after the world wars up until 1970 (from 140'000 to 584'000 in 20 years) and most of their off-spring is not included in the statistics...and I didn't find anything.

Switzerland is a threat to the EU because it undermines the democratic legitimacy of the EU. They couldn't care less if we are part of the club or not if it were not for the constant reminder that in a democracy it is the people who are sovereign.

Anonymous Sigyn February 11, 2014 9:08 AM  

Yes, how dare a government favor the interests of its native citizens over the interests of non-citizens who are actively hostile? Where are their priorities, I ask you?!

Blogger Doom February 11, 2014 9:09 AM  

When mass immigration truly ends, in modern nations, then begins the process of sending back what does not fit. That will be a bit expensive, but not so expensive as keeping the turds in the bowl that just don't fit. *flush*

America has to not only end immigration, and "citizenship by birth", a misappropriated legal stance to start, but also begin exiling those who simply aren't working out. Keep the productive ones, toss out the criminals and social suckers. It's much cheaper to send them tons of wheat and corn, and guns when they decide to end socialism in their own countries. Yum!

A man can dream.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus February 11, 2014 9:15 AM  

Catan: "Abolitionism. Abolition of what? Your culture and identity, of course."

If that was the aim, people who look white but have no loyalty at all to whites would stop, because in great part they have achieved it, and they have the power to do the rest without knocking over the apple-cart, which is their apple-cart now and has been for a long time.

The whole tendency of their conduct, as shown by a global (not merely European) pattern of events, consistently for the better part of a century, must be something that cannot be achieved without mass immigration of a certain sort into the right countries.

Anonymous Sigyn February 11, 2014 9:15 AM  

Any more?

6. Convince people that they cannot survive without the government right there in their lives and homes. Consolidate all services offered into the government's ordinary functions by offering tax money to "help" pay for them, and make sure to attach absurd and unrelated conditions to the getting of the money. Then use Point 5 to ensure that no private entities or local governments can perform them without the money, or are unable to meet the standards attached to the money.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 9:16 AM  

Just how popular is Caplan's mode of thinking among real-live Europeans? I read it, and I was pretty darn cheeses off - and I'm black!

Blogger Glen Filthie February 11, 2014 9:17 AM  

Well the writing is on the wall for people with an IQ above freezing. The racists are right about a few things - and the politically correct multiculties are full of shit on a whole bunch of things.

Third world people make for third world countries. One can sympathise when they leave their fly blown hell holes seeking a better life elsewhere, but they smuggle their stupidity in with them and start setting up the same dumps they fled from. Cities like Detroit, Baltimore and New Orleans are beginning to resemble Africa and everyone knows who is responsible.

If the Swiss want to end up like Romania they were on the right track. But there I go, getting all hatey again....

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 9:17 AM  

*cheesed. Stupid typo.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 9:18 AM  

Good on the Swiss. Caplan's a dumbass.

Anonymous Catan February 11, 2014 9:19 AM  

They have achieved it, "in great part"?

Well, there's your answer. Totalitarians want it all. Not just a great part of it. All of it.

Look at how they continue to talk about the right wing in America as if it is a leviathan in control of every important sector of society. They clearly don't think they have achieved success yet.

They aren't exactly the smartest of cookies, in any case. It's not like their decisions always turn out best for them. They are motivated more by their hatred of the native culture than anything else.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus February 11, 2014 9:22 AM  

PhillipGeorge(c)2014: "Who would you have live under your own roof in your own home?"

In movies like Gran Torino, Hollywood strives tirelessly to persuade people of a certain type that they can get all the good things you mention better from the right sort of immigrants, such as Hmong, than from their own children, who should be disinherited in the broadest sense.

Anonymous Roundtine February 11, 2014 9:23 AM  

Immigration restriction would be popular in America as well. It's one of those "silent majority" issues. No one wants to bring it up, but if someone starting talking about it, suddenly all sorts of people would come out in favor of it, including union members and environmentalists on the left.

Anonymous ZhukovG February 11, 2014 9:23 AM  

Global Governance and culturally homogenous nation states are incompatible due to the potential national loyalty of the native culture. Large nations are particularly incompatible and must be broken up into the smallest political units feasible.

I would suspect that the Globalists consider Switzerland to be too large and would like to divide it into German, French and Italian speaking political units each with sufficient Asian and African peoples to completely dilute the native culture. The Romansh areas are possibly insignificant enough to be disregarded.

It goes without saying that nations like the USA, Russia, China and India must be completely disintegrated both culturally and politically.

I, of course, believe the Globalists will fail miserably, but sadly they will cause a lot of suffering before they are finally beaten.

Blogger Tiny Tim February 11, 2014 9:26 AM  

The minorities are shooting holes in the boat to get back at "Captain Whitey".

That'll show him.

Anonymous Roundtine February 11, 2014 9:32 AM  

Just how popular is Caplan's mode of thinking among real-live Europeans?

I doubt it exists much. Open borders is mainly a U.S./libertarian idea as far as I've seen. Although the Economist is also pro-open borders, or close to it. A lot of economists are autistic when it comes to the economy, as if only GDP matters.

I stopped reading Caplan due to the open borders idiocy. He comes up with moralistic reasoning, such as you are hurting poor foreigners if you don't let them come to your rich country. And some of the open borders crowd will give in on democracy, and say the millions of people here don't have to become citizens, just be allowed to live and work, as if that never ended badly. Caplan has said he lives in a bubble and its true, these guys just make the same stupid arguments to each other locked away in their Ivory Towers.

Anonymous whtbread February 11, 2014 9:34 AM  

"Instead of coddling nativism with gradualism, we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism."

Whats good for the Caplan's ? The only question that really matters in the end.


Blogger JartStar February 11, 2014 9:36 AM  

Due to the sheer size of America and the possibility of dissolution I wonder if the people will eventually favor a heavy handed dictatorial style government to keep it together like Russia, rather than see it peacefully split?

Anonymous Josh February 11, 2014 9:41 AM  

Those outside of the South probably would.

Anonymous Randy M February 11, 2014 9:45 AM  

I stopped following "punk rock libertarians" on facebook (I know, I know...) when they passed on a pro-immigration picture showing an Indian with the text "You say a bunch of immigrants are refusing to assimilate to your culture and threatening your way of life? Man, that sucks!"

I replied "Yeah, I guess you're right, being unable to restrict immigration didn't end up being much of a problem for the natives, did it? Oh, wait, it was, huh? Their culture was more or less reduced to a fraction. So, then, is that actually a goal you wish on the remnants of western civilization? Because Latin-American culture is known for being a libertarian paradise, right?"

Hearteningly, 4 of 5 of the other "top-comments" are also "xenophobic".

Anonymous JW February 11, 2014 9:47 AM  

"we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism."

Nice touch to add the 'peacefully' word into the statement. Once they get wound
-up, that 'peacefully' will disappear in practice.

Anonymous Will Best February 11, 2014 9:49 AM  

It must take an uncanny level of self deception to not realize this. Blows my mind how they actually believe that immigrants will happily assimilate into their non-culture, non-identity.

If you don't take pride in who you are and what you have accomplished why should anyone else?

Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 9:52 AM  

Titus Didius Tacitus February 11, 2014 9:22 AM
In movies like Gran Torino, Hollywood strives tirelessly to persuade people ... than from their own children, who should be disinherited in the broadest sense.


yeah, Gran Torino was an obnoxious steaming pile of shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WpL0MQ1T1Q

young white men? powerless cowards who won't stand up for anything, kissing the ass of the ghetto thugs. "Shut up, pussy".

takes an old white man ( with a long meta-history of portraying gunslingers ) to have the balls to do anything about it. hey, what's old white man's solution?

why, to have a gun. WHICH HE ( meta-wild west gunslinger ) WILL NOT PERMIT THE YOUNG WHITE MAN TO HAVE. are your children "pussies", old white man? well, maybe you shouldn't have legislated and educated and raised them to be pussies ... by punishing them their whole lives for trying to choose anything BUT being a pussy.

then, what is Clint's overall answer to the gang problem that finishes the movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waNhD1Z23M8

suicide by ghetto thug? are you fucking kidding me?

lone young white boy is a pussy BECAUSE HE WON'T PUT HIMSELF OUT THERE TO BE MASSACRED by a bunch of minority gang bangers?

just so the fucking cops will have a pretext to do the job ( bringing down the racist gang that is destroying the city ) THEY WERE REFUSING TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE?

and Clint Eastwood gets to speak at Republican conventions? really? that's the best we can do? really?

Anonymous Sigyn February 11, 2014 9:56 AM  

I stopped following "punk rock libertarians" on facebook (I know, I know...) when they passed on a pro-immigration picture showing an Indian with the text "You say a bunch of immigrants are refusing to assimilate to your culture and threatening your way of life? Man, that sucks!"

People like this are sometimes amusingly tone-deaf, aren't they?

Anonymous Catan February 11, 2014 9:58 AM  

they passed on a pro-immigration picture showing an Indian with the text "You say a bunch of immigrants are refusing to assimilate to your culture and threatening your way of life? Man, that sucks!"

Ah yes, the "You're not innocent either so why don't you just curl up and die" argument.

Such a rationale would only ever be used by someone who primarily sees their native culture as their enemy. It's not a plan, it is merely critical theory being used against that which they despise.

If you don't take pride in who you are and what you have accomplished why should anyone else?

Because it's why they will win, and the rabbits will lose.

Anonymous Salt February 11, 2014 10:00 AM  

Due to the sheer size of America and the possibility of dissolution I wonder if the people will eventually favor a heavy handed dictatorial style government to keep it together like Russia, rather than see it peacefully split?

Not likely. All the ammo stored begging to be used.

Anonymous scipioafricanus February 11, 2014 10:06 AM  

and to what group does Caplan belong? does anyone see a patern here?

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 10:12 AM  

Titus - In movies like Gran Torino, Hollywood strives tirelessly to persuade people of a certain type that they can get all the good things you mention better from the right sort of immigrants, such as Hmong, than from their own children, who should be disinherited in the broadest sense.

Funny, my biggest takeaway from Gran Torino was that the Hmong make terrible actors. We'll just have to import our thespians from somewhere else in the coming multicultural utopia.

My biggest takeaway from Clint Easwood's work in general is that the man is sick of breathing.

Anonymous ZhukovG February 11, 2014 10:13 AM  

@Jartstar

I can understand Russians embracing Putin, who is not so much a dictator as a Czar sans crown. Russians have always gravitated toward what they view as the national hero or man on the white horse. Sometimes this has been bad (Stalin) and sometimes good (Alexander Nevsky), but it is integral to their cultural heritage.

The United States has never really been culturally homogenous, though certainly more so at its founding than today, and is really only held together by the perceived material prosperity that union affords. In order to avoid the scenario you describe, the Globalists may be driving the United States to an economic destruction so complete that continued union is neither feasible or desirable.

They may have attempted this with Russia in the 1990’s under Yeltsin. As I recall he was taking his economic advice from western financial experts. The Globalists may have underestimated the cultural solidarity of the Russian people. Also since the Globalist are secular they may have not given consideration to the unifying force of the Russian Orthodox Church. The effectiveness of Putin as a leader may also have count them off guard.

Of course I can only guess at what goes on in Globalist circles, I am certainly no insider and possess no special powers of political prognostication.

Anonymous Stilicho February 11, 2014 10:14 AM  

I stopped reading Caplan due to the open borders idiocy. He comes up with moralistic reasoning, such as you are hurting poor foreigners if you don't let them come to your rich country.

Ask him how he feels about opening Israel up to the millions of diaspora Palestinians who were evicted by the Zionist invasion. Ask him how he feels about opening up Israel to all of those Africans that they are trying so hard to keep out or deport. Then sit back and enjoy the show. You ain't seen snowflaking like what's coming your way unless you've lived above the arctic circle in wintertime.

As someone said above, it's all about whats good for the Caplans.

Anonymous Roundtine February 11, 2014 10:19 AM  

I think Caplan would say Israel should open up. He goes full retard on the topic.

OpenID cailcorishev February 11, 2014 10:26 AM  

Immigration restriction would be popular in America as well.

Yep. Imagine if the top 5 newspapers, a couple of the TV networks, a couple of the late night comedians, Facebook and Google, one of the major political parties, and about half of Hollywood were all in favor of restriction immigration. It could happen tomorrow if the entire MSM and pretty much every opinion-maker in the country weren't firmly on the other side. Considering their complete control of mainstream discussion on the topic, it's a wonder any Americans even think limiting immigration is possible, let alone right.

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 10:28 AM  

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=never+go+full+retard&qpvt=never+go+full+retard&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=D032BB0CBBDAFF38D35CD032BB0CBBDAFF38D35C

Anonymous ck February 11, 2014 10:29 AM  

Forgive the topic change, but is Rand Paul "black knighting" with is charges of Democrat hypocrisy over the Clinton-Lewinsky affair?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/why-is-rand-paul-talking-about-bill-clinton-and-monica-lewinsky/283698/

Anonymous Stilicho February 11, 2014 10:35 AM  

Roundtine, then ask him the same questions re: his house and assorted third worlders, etc.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 10:37 AM  

Krul February 11, 2014 10:12 AM
My biggest takeaway from Clint Easwood's work in general is that the man is sick of breathing.



i dunno.

i think that he is an old alpha ( and a clinical neuro-deviant ) who has hit The Wall and doesn't understand why the platoon of gold digging whores is no longer jumping on his dick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVSfgctIpo

since the gold digging whores aren't platooning to jump on his dick anymore he's lashing out 'young white men' ... because the women are still jumping on their ( alpha ) dicks.

i've just thought of this, Eastwood slimed young white men in 'Unforgiven' too. it just wasn't quite so obvious there.

Anonymous Philalethes February 11, 2014 10:47 AM  

Mazyar Keshvari, immigration policy spokesman for the anti-immigration Progress Party...

Not exactly a Norwegian name... The first looks like it might (?) be Hungarian (?), the second I can't guess. Interesting. So what exactly is his interest?

Blogger Hermit February 11, 2014 10:50 AM  

Step 1: It's just a few poor immigrants, they are desperate just help them
Step 2: That anti-immigration party is xenophobic and racist extreme right!
Step 3: They do the job we don't want to do anymore
Step 4: Cultural enrichment!
Step 5: It's inevitable, our identities are lost forever. Like it or not, give up.

Many politicians that strongly oppose immigration are really extremists or very rude and their words gets used by the enemy to portraits all of us as nazis.
When a respectable politician speaks against immigration they start to misquote his phrases to make him look like a loonatic or they provoke him into saying something that will alienate the moderate voters.

The "intellectuals" can openly say in their articles that our old culture and our old identity is lost forever, when their good militant leftist boys mindlessy repeats their mantras without even thinking about the implication.
The situation is too compromised if they can openly say that our culture will end and no one beats an eye. The end is near :D

Since 1789 and 1848 we fought against modern errors, the diseas was slowed but the body (our civilization) is now mortally infected. They call us ultraconservative and we can't defend ourselves anymore without looking like dangerous extremists but we are just warning them like 50 or 100 years ago: the world is now extreme, not us.

It's like looking the rewinding of the tape of christian civilization, we are almost back to paganism degeneracy and barbarian invasion.
I'm just not sure if the barbarian are the immigrants or white leftists, maybe both.

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 10:51 AM  

bob k. mando - yeah, Gran Torino was an obnoxious steaming pile of shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WpL0MQ1T1Q


Exhibit A of the Hmong being awful actors. The young lady's line reads are atrocious.

Not that even the best actor could have done much with such unnatural writing. The only reasons a girl in that situation would talk like that are 1) she's seriously delusional (enough to endanger herself and others) or 2) she actually wants to get batterd and raped.

(A girl who thought someone would protect her might also mouth off like that, and Clint does ultimately intervene, but the girl had no reason to expect it in this scene. I don't think the wigger douche was up to the challenge.)

Also, Clint criticizes the wigger for the "bro" talk, even though he wasn't present to hear that part of the exchange. Glaring continuity error, that.

Anonymous David February 11, 2014 10:52 AM  

I'm one of the very few expats who doesn't primarily socialize with people from my home country.

As a native born American who works in Silicon Valley, it isn't easy to socialize with people who are from my home country.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 February 11, 2014 10:52 AM  

Minority groups in the United States have a tribal mentality. This runs counter to the individualism that this nation was founded on.

In Europe, what we are seeing is competing tribes struggle for dominance. In the United States, all the white people seem to assume that the blacks, Hispanics, and Asians will act like individuals rather than go with the tribe. This is why we see European nations attempting to expel foreigners while the US is trying to welcome them in.

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 10:56 AM  

bob k. mando - since the gold digging whores aren't platooning to jump on his dick anymore he's lashing out 'young white men' ... because the women are still jumping on their ( alpha ) dicks.

Heh. Maybe murdering the pretty young girl in Million Dollar Baby was therapeutic for him.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 10:57 AM  

Norway. 15,000 abortions per year. 100's of thousands of morning after pills sold without prescription.

Better keep those immigrants out before they corrupt our way of life....

Anonymous suindara February 11, 2014 10:59 AM  

I find it interesting that it is an Iranian-Norwegian politician that is against immigration.

Since only White countries are required to be diverse (and only Christian countries that have to be secular) maybe when the country is not white anymore it will no longer have to be diverse.

Immigrants probably want to bring in more immigrants of their own race but exclude those from other races.

Anonymous jack February 11, 2014 11:07 AM  

JartStar February 11, 2014 9:36 AM

Due to the sheer size of America and the possibility of dissolution I wonder if the people will eventually favor a heavy handed dictatorial style government to keep it together

Jart: If it happens it won't be the common people that decide to do that. It WILL be the common people that revolt and try to stop such a move.

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 11:11 AM  

Porky, has it occurred to you that subsidizing immigrants increases costs of living, thereby reducing natives' ability to afford children?

Restricting immigration and ending all subsidies for it is a step in the right direction for developed countries.

Blogger James Dixon February 11, 2014 11:15 AM  

> They clearly don't think they have achieved success yet.

And as long as the American people are armed, they won't think they have.

> I wonder if the people will eventually favor a heavy handed dictatorial style government to keep it together like Russia, rather than see it peacefully split?

What do you think we've had since the 1860's?

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 11:19 AM  

Noah B. "Porky, has it occurred to you that subsidizing immigrants increases costs of living, thereby reducing natives' ability to afford children?"

Man. How sad. Now I'm so depressed I think I'll fly to Switzerland and pay some clinic to euthanize me.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 11:21 AM  

Restricting immigration and ending all subsidies for it is a step in the right direction for developed countries.

Noah B., if you want to stop the Philistines at your gate, the first thing you do is throw away your Baals and your Ashtoreths.

Anonymous cheddarman February 11, 2014 11:23 AM  

Porky,

maybe you could don some 3rd world costume, dye your skin brown, and apply for assylum in France...who knows, you might make a good moslem

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 11:33 AM  

maybe you could don some 3rd world costume, dye your skin brown, and apply for assylum in France...who knows, you might make a good moslem

Great idea, Cheddar. Then I could marry your daughter and make her wife number 5.

I'll trade you 3 goats for her.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick February 11, 2014 11:43 AM  

Porky,

What are our Baals and Ashtoreths? and how can we throw them away?

Anonymous civilServant February 11, 2014 11:43 AM  

I'm one of the very few expats who doesn't primarily socialize with people from my home country.

How much have Americans been your primary social circle? You seemed to choose Italy readily.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 11:46 AM  

What are our Baals and Ashtoreths? and how can we throw them away?

1Sam 7

Anonymous Catan February 11, 2014 12:16 PM  

I love how his response to the resistance to gradualism is to just ram it down so fast the masses can't do anything about it no matter how mad they are.

If he had half a brain, he might stop to wonder what the social cost of such a brazen move would be...and the globalists get upset when we point out how their policies cause angst, conflict, and misery.

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 12:28 PM  

Instead of coddling nativism with gradualism, we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism.

"can, should, and must"?

"can" - The Swiss referendum suggests that nativism might not be so easy to overcome.

"should" - What makes him think that destroying nationalism is a moral imperative?

"must" - What makes him think that destroying nationalism is necessary? Does he expect some apocalyptic disaster that only extreme immigration will curb?

Blogger Matamoros February 11, 2014 12:36 PM  

Josh February Those outside of the South probably would.

Right. Southerners have already see how that works.

Anonymous 11B February 11, 2014 12:56 PM  

If countries could just get over the hump of status quo bias, anti-immigration attitudes would become as socially unacceptable as domestic racism. Instead of coddling nativism with gradualism, we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism.

Ah, the leftists are always wanting to remake man. And since he used the words 'peacefully destroy', he has cleared himself of any responsibility for future blood spilled to accomplish his goal.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey February 11, 2014 1:10 PM  

Caplan and others of his ilk are advocating ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Why aren't these people detained and put on trial for advocating (and instigating) such crimes?

Anonymous paradox February 11, 2014 1:15 PM  

John McCain has been lecturing Hungary on democracy, because they don't look his family.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 1:18 PM  

Krul February 11, 2014 10:51 AM
The only reasons a girl in that situation would talk like that are



irl, the only way this would happen is if the chick was intentionally trying to use the porch monkeys to scrape off someone she considered to be a gamma clinger.

or maybe if she's dumb as a box of rocks.


in meta-story terms Eastwood produced, directed and starred in the movie and what you're observing is authorial omnipotence deployed to make him ( his character ) look 'good'.

really curious is that i just realized that 'pussy white boy' is actually one of Clint's own illegitimate sons.

what kind of a twisted fuck do you have to be to put your own son up on the screen in front of the entire nation and make him out to be an obsequious little coward? Clint has been playing badasses his entire life, for almost 60 years now. has he EVER played a 'pussy white boy' character himself?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1205489/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 1:38 PM  

I haven't watched Gran Torino being under the impression that it was about an old white guy sacraficing himself for some asians by purposely setting himself up to be shot by black gang bangers.

Having watched the clip I now realize it had a sub-plot of some kind involving an autistic girl.

Blogger Krul February 11, 2014 1:42 PM  

bob k. mando - really curious is that i just realized that 'pussy white boy' is actually one of Clint's own illegitimate sons.

He directed a scene where he said "Shut up, pussy" to his own son? That is messed up.

Anonymous cheddarman February 11, 2014 1:48 PM  



Great idea, Cheddar. Then I could marry your daughter and make her wife number 5.

I'll trade you 3 goats for her. - Porky

5 goats and 1 young milk cow, and she is yours. May she bear you many strong sons.

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 1:52 PM  

As I said, I haven't seen the movie, but my understanding is that he acts like he is pulling a gun, causing the gang leader to shoot him, who is then arrested for murder by the police.

How does that solve the problem that the Hmong are being targeted by a black gang?

Since Clint's character has displayed a gun in the past then wouldn't self-defense be plausible? And assuming the gang leader is convicted, so what? Gangs don't disappear because a leader is arrested. Wouldn't the Hmong be in even greater danger since now the gang will hold them responsible for the leader going to prison?

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 1:56 PM  

"Noah B., if you want to stop the Philistines at your gate, the first thing you do is throw away your Baals and your Ashtoreths."

And what is the modern equivalent of those in present-day Europe? For many, especially those on the left, it is the belief that omnipotent government can solve mankind's problems, in contradiction to vast evidence and experience, and in a manner that is best described as worshipful. Admitting that government lacks the power to transform hordes of third world immigrants into well behaved members of a civilized society is a great first step toward ending that unjustified worship of government. So, the Swiss and Norwegians seem to be doing exactly as you have advised.

Anonymous rycamor February 11, 2014 2:12 PM  

Oh please... psycho-analyzing Clint Eastwood and his movie. The man told a story. Who cares whether his son acted a certain part that didn't involve a stellar character. I believe it's called acting. The story is a good one, and well-directed (except for the bad Hmong acting, unfortunately).

Characters in stories often have to make the best of bad situations and that's what his character does. Don't confuse that with some sort of preachy pro-immigration message. Yes, he portrays younger white men as pussies. How many younger white men do you know fit that bill? The movie should be watched, and it should be treated as a good kick in the pants to the present generation.

How many of you aspies watched Eastwood's other great directorial effort (Bird), and decided that he wants everyone to become a druggie jazz musician who dies by overdosing? Portrayal of a character should not be confused with some sort of preachy message.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 2:20 PM  

So, the Swiss and Norwegians seem to be doing exactly as you have advised.

The Swiss just voted 70-30 in favor of government sanctioned human sacrifice.

90% of Norwegian mayors said they would not allow doctors to conscientiously refuse an abortion.

I'd say they have more than a few idols to destroy.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 2:25 PM  

Admitting that government lacks the power to transform hordes of third world immigrants into well behaved members of a civilized society...

Stop. You cannot murder your own offspring by the tens and hundreds of thousands and claim to be "well behaved" and "civilized".



Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 2:27 PM  

Krul February 11, 2014 1:42 PM
He directed a scene where he said "Shut up, pussy" to his own son? That is messed up.



that is naked Dark Triad.

learn it, love it, live it. it'll get you wealth, fame, accolades and more pooty tang than you can shake a stick at.

Anonymous Catan February 11, 2014 2:32 PM  

Porky, the generalizations you're leveling don't make much sense. It seems you just like stirring the pot to be contrarian.

Yes, compared to the third world, those countries are civilized. Stop being obtuse.

Anonymous tungsten February 11, 2014 2:33 PM  

Bird was a biographical film and Clint was more or less constrained there by the real life person and his actions.
It isn't a good comparison.

Also, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the other half of the story about Clint's character in Gran Torino - how the character's main motivation in the story is his life long struggle with the guilt over how he mistreated some Koreans while fighting in the Korean War. Clint's helping his Hmong neighbors and eventually dying to save a couple of their kids is set up as the ultimate atonement for his actions in the Korean War. i.e. death in service to minority is white guys only just way to pay for historical guilt.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 2:53 PM  

hygate February 11, 2014 1:52 PM
How does that solve the problem that the Hmong are being targeted by a black gang?



because you didn't watch the film you missed Clint's bait and switch.

the gang that Clint honey-pots at the end of the movie is the *Hmong* gang. iow, the only force in the hood that would have been defending the Hmong community against the black gangs is the very one that Clint destroys.

because blacks only attack the Hmong because of Hmong racism and inherent class privilege or some stupid bullshit.



rycamor February 11, 2014 2:12 PM
Oh please... psycho-analyzing Clint Eastwood and his movie.



followed by 3 paragraphs of psycho-analyzing Clint Eastwood and his movie ... to your own benefit.

noice.



rycamor February 11, 2014 2:12 PM
Characters in stories often have to make the best of bad situations and that's what his character does.


a - except that Clint was in absolute control of every aspect of the 'bad situation' and it's presentation and also the answers that he permitted to be shown.
b - the best of a bad situation? isn't that what "pussy white boy" was doing? he was dragged, unarmed and unwarned by the girl he was trying to date into an exceedingly dangerous situation in which he was outnumbered. 'Pussy' tries to defuse the situation by playing homey ( if there's a fight she might might get raped right there on the sidewalk, he can't even engage because there's no reasonable way to expect that he's going to be able to protect her ). and he gets what for his efforts? emasculated by the 'hero' of the film, emasculated by the chick and emasculated by the bangers.
c - Clint could have cast his son for any minor part in the movie, even as that punk fresh out of seminary priest. you even acknowledge yourself that the Hmong actors prove that ability was not a requirement in this movie.
d - Clint could have hired anybody off the street in Hollywood or Detroit to play 'Pussy'. he chose his son EVEN THOUGH he knows full well from his own career that there's way more wealth in being the badass leading man than being a background character actor.

and you think these things are an *accident* of storytelling and narrative?

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 2:56 PM  

Yes, compared to the third world, those countries are civilized. Stop being obtuse.

African abortion rate: 29
Eastern Europe: 43

Yeah, by all means let's not allow those Africans to corrupt our daughters!







Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 2:59 PM  

rycamor - The story is a good one, and well-directed

I think it's a bad one, and inconsistently directed.

Not bad because of some supposed "pro-immigration" subtext. Not bad because of the casting of his son. Bad because bad. I hope that clears things up for you.

Anonymous Josh February 11, 2014 3:11 PM  

I'm amazed at the nutty psychoanalysis of Gran Torino

This is why y'all can't have nice things.

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 3:25 PM  

Josh - I'm amazed blah blah

Anonymous Josh February 11, 2014 3:38 PM  

Strong take.

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 3:41 PM  

"the gang that Clint honey-pots at the end of the movie is the *Hmong* gang. iow, the only force in the hood that would have been defending the Hmong community against the black gangs is the very one that Clint destroys.

because blacks only attack the Hmong because of Hmong racism and inherent class privilege or some stupid bullshit."

The stupid, it burns.

"the best of a bad situation? isn't that what "pussy white boy" was doing? he was dragged, unarmed and unwarned by the girl he was trying to date into an exceedingly dangerous situation in which he was outnumbered. 'Pussy' tries to defuse the situation by playing homey ( if there's a fight she might might get raped right there on the sidewalk, he can't even engage because there's no reasonable way to expect that he's going to be able to protect her ). "

Yes, outnumbered 3 to one and all 3 outweigh him and are used to doing violence. Watching that clip made me think she wanted them to kill him. Does she routinely lure young men to their death? Is that a thing for her? How many young mens' death is she responsible for?

Blogger Nate February 11, 2014 3:56 PM  

This whole thread is fail.

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 4:00 PM  

"Yes, outnumbered 3 to one and all 3 outweigh him and are used to doing violence."

He was weak, untrained, unarmed, and had no fighting spirit. Hence... Pussy.

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 4:04 PM  

"He was weak, untrained, unarmed, and had no fighting spirit. Hence... Pussy."

True, that's probably why the Hmong girl chose him as a victim.

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 4:05 PM  

Porky... where did those abortion stats come from?

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 4:06 PM  

"True, that's probably why the Hmong girl chose him as a victim."

Cheaper than a movie.

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 4:08 PM  

Nate - This whole thread is fail.

Big Caplan fan, are we?

Blogger Nate February 11, 2014 4:14 PM  

i think there at this point its a given that immigration posts bring out the stupid amongst the ilk... like discussions on pit bulls.

Anonymous Stilicho February 11, 2014 4:17 PM  

Stop being obtuse

Dat's porkiss! He can't help it, he was born that way!

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 4:29 PM  

Getting back to the immigration discussion, I just found this howler of an article on The Atlantic about how "brain drain" can help African countries by opening up export markets.

I knew that when they were disparaging these people's homelands that it was just more open-borders propaganda. They want Africans to curse their own homelands...just like the Atlantic's writers curse theirs.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 4:33 PM  

Josh February 11, 2014 3:11 PM
I'm amazed at the nutty psychoanalysis of Gran Torino



fine.

do you think the movie had any message, any point to the story? at all?

if not, what is there to like about the movie? old white guy dies at the end? what are you cheering for?



Noah B. February 11, 2014 4:00 PM
He was weak, untrained, unarmed, and had no fighting spirit. Hence... Pussy.



granted, exactly. i'm NOT arguing that "Trey Harmful" ( the actual full character name ) is not a pussy. he is.


why did Clint make the Trey character be that way?

why did Clint make the only Hmong who were willing to stand up to the black gangs the "bad guys" of the film?

and you notice that? defending yourself against blacks makes you 'bad' AND failing to defend yourself against blacks makes you 'bad'. unless you're Clint, then you're allowed to wave a gun around all day and it's a good thing.

the answer to those questions is what makes this movie fucked up.

Clint assigning his son to play that character is just a whole order of magnitude more dysfunction than i had ever been aware of before.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 4:37 PM  

Porky... where did those abortion stats come from?

Guttmacher.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 4:39 PM  

This quote at the end of the article gives the game away:

In 2003, the University of Birmingham’s Douglas Rimmer wrote, “An exacting test of how serious we are about reducing inequality in the world is whether we are prepared to allow migration into the advanced economies of people from Africa and other poor areas. By this test, few of the advocates of international aid are really serious.” Perhaps we’ll perform better on that test now that we know just how valuable Africans are to Africa—whether from their old homes or their new ones. [Emphasis mine.]

They see the "advanced economies" as booty to be plundered, not as the homelands of distinct peoples. But it will be the corporate magnates making out like bandits due to a reduced cost of labor, while the native middle and lower classes are squeezed by declining wages and ethnic-spoils politics.

Anonymous hygate February 11, 2014 4:42 PM  

"and you notice that? defending yourself against blacks makes you 'bad' "

Thus the Zimmerman persecution. People not in a protected class must be punished for defending themselves from those who are in a protected class.

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 4:44 PM  

bob, I see what you mean. I hadn't given it a great deal of thought, probably because Clint Eastwood directed it, but those are probably some of the reasons I had in the back of my mind for being less than thrilled with that movie. It might not have been the full dosage of leftist horseshit I've grown accustomed to from Hollywood, but it was hardly The Outlaw Josey Wales.

Anonymous Noah B. February 11, 2014 4:52 PM  

"Guttmacher."

OK, so according to them, the abortion rate in Western Europe (which I'm assuming includes Switzerland and Norway) is 12 (per 1000 per year) vs. 29 in Africa. They claim that abortion laws have little effect on abortion rates, and I see no reason to disagree with that.

Anonymous ChicagoRefugee February 11, 2014 5:04 PM  

"we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism."

Reminds me of Tom Hayden's " 'another step in a long-term goal of mine: the peaceful, nonviolent disappearance of the white race.'"

Interesting symmetry.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 5:07 PM  

Because it got lost in that Gran Torino discussion, I'll repost the Atlantic piece here.

The money quote:

In 2003, the University of Birmingham’s Douglas Rimmer wrote, “An exacting test of how serious we are about reducing inequality in the world is whether we are prepared to allow migration into the advanced economies of people from Africa and other poor areas. By this test, few of the advocates of international aid are really serious.” Perhaps we’ll perform better on that test now that we know just how valuable Africans are to Africa—whether from their old homes or their new ones. [Emphasis mine.]

They're treating developed countries as booty to be plundered.

Anonymous Josh February 11, 2014 5:08 PM  

It's reverse colonialism

Anonymous Krul February 11, 2014 5:15 PM  

CrisisEraDynamo - They're treating developed countries as booty to be plundered.

It follows from equalism. "Reducing inequality", in practice, means eating the rich.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 5:30 PM  

@ Krul

Here's the thing, though; the rich won't be eaten. They'll be able to live high on the hog from all the cheap labor, which is why they're pressing the Republicans so hard on this issue.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 5:31 PM  

@ Josh

It's reverse colonialism

Exactly.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 11, 2014 5:43 PM  

CrisisEraDynamo February 11, 2014 5:30 PM
Here's the thing, though; the rich won't be eaten.



in the sense that Krul is using the term 'rich', the 300lb, inner city, Obamaphone having, 60" flat screen with 300 channels of idiocy and McDreck for 5 meals a day payed for with an EBT card is 'rich'.

poverty level in the US is the wealth of kings to someone from the barrios of Rio de Janeiro.

and the elites do fully intend to 'eat' the lower classes of the US. there's always going to be a nomenklatura. Kim Jong Un is wealthy even by American standards. and he's spent his entire life ( and his father's and grandfather's lives before him ) 'eating' the people of North Korea.

Blogger Krul February 11, 2014 6:15 PM  

CrisisEraDynamo - Here's the thing, though; the rich won't be eaten.

The slogans of equalism are rationalizations. The useful idiots support policies that are against their own interests in the name of "equality" and a childish attempt to "stick it to the man".

Meanwhile the racketeer overlords are laughing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous Porky February 11, 2014 6:27 PM  

@Noah, B.

Europe abortion rate: 27
Africa: 29
Asia: 28
World: 28

Take away the morning after pill and Europe and America would probably shoot past Africa in no time.

Noah, abortion is not the issue. It's simply a bellwether of an immoral, uncivilized, declining world. Before trying to preserve a way of life, one should consider whether that way of life is even worth saving.

It's not civilization when nearly 1 in 3 European pregnancies is ripped from the womb.

It's an abomination. It doesn't need to be preserved. It needs to be scoured from the earth.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus February 11, 2014 6:30 PM  

ChicagoRefugee: ""we can, should, and must peacefully destroy nativism with abolitionism."

Reminds me of Tom Hayden's " 'another step in a long-term goal of mine: the peaceful, nonviolent disappearance of the white race.'"

Interesting symmetry."

Noel Ignatiev (with his journal Race Traitor) has said many similar things. (And he goes the full retard, attacking Israel too, which is very unusual.) But the prevailing assumption is that this is always to be understood as "peaceful".

Tim Wise is another who is on the same page.

They all get credit for being "peaceful". And there are many like them, little race traitors and anti-racists, all pushing white g-word "peacefully".

It's not a matter of one guy paralleling another guy but of a movement with powerful elite support and a remarkable record of policy changes in countries around the world for most of a century lining up with the aims of the movement.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus February 11, 2014 6:48 PM  

CrisisEraDynamo: "They see the "advanced economies" as booty to be plundered, not as the homelands of distinct peoples."

There is certainly a mentality that "as for the [X], they do not exist."

But you wouldn't have to make Guess Who's Coming To Dinner and other movies and television shows in the same vein for forty years to promote mere plundering.

And the "advanced economies" are a little more specific than that. South Korea doesn't seem to qualify, but it's apparently important to inflict regime change on holdout countries like Ukraine.

Anonymous AlteredFate February 11, 2014 8:10 PM  

i think there at this point its a given that immigration posts bring out the stupid amongst the ilk... like discussions on pit bulls.

I will also submit drug legalization as another topic which seems to bring out the re-re's.

Back on topic...proximity + diversity = war. Hard to argue with that math, and it's coming to a city near you.

Anonymous Robert in Arabia February 11, 2014 10:18 PM  

Hitler was a great European attacked by Stalin and his jackels.

Anonymous Toby Temple February 12, 2014 2:48 AM  

It's reverse colonialism

C'mon, Josh! They had it coming!

It will end peace and restore the gladiator games!

Blood will be spilled!

Heads will roll!

And the people shall cheer and praise their emperor!

Anonymous Luke February 12, 2014 6:19 AM  

Doom February 11, 2014 9:09 AM

When mass immigration truly ends, in modern nations, then begins the process of sending back what does not fit. That will be a bit expensive, but not so expensive as keeping the turds in the bowl that just don't fit. *flush*

America has to not only end immigration, and "citizenship by birth", a misappropriated legal stance to start, but also begin exiling those who simply aren't working out. Keep the productive ones, toss out the criminals and social suckers. It's much cheaper to send them tons of wheat and corn, and guns when they decide to end socialism in their own countries. Yum!

A man can dream.


It will be by far cheapest of all to either just outright kill "those who simply aren't working out." (I'm classifying "not keeping alive", i.e., the Holodomor, as killing.) Compare the resources involved in using up a rifle cartridge (or swinging a club/machete) with transporting someone while alive 2000 - 10,000 miles; the latter is enormously more expensive. (This in a time of both individuals and governments commonly going ever broker.)

Of course, those who self-return, or at least self-exile, as German Jews did early in Hitler's ascendance, will be allowed, even encouraged, at least at first, and especially if they leave empty-handed...

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus February 12, 2014 6:59 AM  

It's reverse colonialism

It's really not.

In colonialism, people A establish, maintain, exploit and possibly expand colonies in territory that belongs to people B. In a harsh form it's "more for us and less for you" pushed to the point of dispossession or destruction, plus cultural obliteration: "As for the X, they do not exist."

In colonialism, there may be genuine idealism (for example a missionary impulse, or a misguided notion of what wonders savages will achieve once acquainted with advanced civilization) but behind every harsh intellectual construct or act one can see the self-interest of people A. That is not the most aggressive posture possible.

In not-colonialism, by the power of coalition A, the habitat of people B is overwhelmed by a mass influxes of peoples C through Z and beyond, plus forced assimilation and systematic cultural and legal favoritism for everyone else over people B. That is not the merely selfish posture: "more for us, even though it means less for you, even to the point of destruction." It is the maximum aggressive posture: "less of you, to the end, and more for anyone and everyone else, even our other enemies".

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