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Wednesday, March 26, 2014

The Sad Puppy Hugo Slate

Larry Correia recommends the following slate to the registered Hugo voters:
Best Novel

Warbound, the Grimnoir Chronicles – Larry Correia – Baen

A Few Good Men – Sarah Hoyt – Baen

Novella

"The Butcher of Khardov" – Dan Wells – Skull Island Expeditions

"The Chaplain’s Legacy" – Brad Torgersen – Analog

Novellete

"The Exchange Officers" – Brad Torgersen – Analog

"Opera Vita Aeterna" – Vox Day – The Last Witchking

Best Fanzine

Elitist Book Reviews – Steve Diamond

Best Editor Long Form

Toni Weisskopf

Best Editor Short Form

Bryan Thomas Schmidt

Campbell Award

Marko Kloos

Frank Chadwick
It should be interesting to see how this all turns out. But after John Scalzi - how entirely unsurprising - laid the groundwork for the open politicization of the Hugo Award, it was inevitable that what had always been done quietly behind closed doors would come out in the open.

In addition to the Sad Puppy slate I am adding the following works:

Best Short Story
Port Call – Michael Z. Williamson – Baen
The Krumhorn and Misericorde – Dave Freer – Baen
Dog’s Body – Sarah A. Hoyt – Baen
Failsafe – Karen Bovenmyer – Iron Dragon Books

Best Related Work
Writing Down the Dragon – Tom Simon – Bondwine Books
On Training for War – Tom Kratman – Baen
A Terrible Thing to Lose:Zombie Science and Science Fiction in John Ringo's
Under a Graveyard Sky – Tedd Roberts – Baen

Best Professional Artist
Kirk DouPonce

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109 Comments:

Blogger Nate March 26, 2014 1:14 PM  

niiiiiice...

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 1:22 PM  

How many votes do you need for your story in order to qualify as a Hugo nominee?

It would be awesome if the first person purged from SFWA was also nominated for a Hugo after being purged.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 1:25 PM  

How many votes do you need for your story in order to qualify as a Hugo nominee?

No idea. If everyone who nominates Warbound also nominates "Opera Vita Aeterna", it will probably be nominated. But I doubt that most people will follow Larry's lead entirely.

Blogger Craig March 26, 2014 1:40 PM  

The Hermetic Millennia has a publication date of 12/24/2012. Is it eligible for a 2014 Hugo? I thought they required a 2013 initial publication date.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 1:46 PM  

Good point. I shall have to check and see.

Blogger Craig March 26, 2014 1:47 PM  

In 2013, there were 1113 ballots cast nominating novels for the Hugo. There were between 587 and 662 ballots cast nominating the short fiction awards. (Every ballot can make up to 5 nominations.)

Only 408 for Best Editor, long form, so Ms. Weisskopf is probably most likely to benefit from Correia's slate.

Blogger Bogey March 26, 2014 1:55 PM  

Kind of been wanting to start the Count to a Trillion series but the first book has a three star death sentence.

Anonymous Blume March 26, 2014 2:00 PM  

So your telling me it would at most cost 50,000 dollars to buy a hugo? sweat!!!!

Anonymous Don March 26, 2014 2:10 PM  

What is 'Best related work'?

Anonymous Truth March 26, 2014 2:12 PM  

So, anyone but Tor. Sounds like a lame ballot.

Blogger Pax_Romana March 26, 2014 2:12 PM  

I would definitely support Opera Vita Aeterna for best novellete. I've used it to convince a Catholic friend of mine to finally explore fantasy because of how you characterize the Church. I did have some questions regarding it, though; did you have a general discussion thread for your books?

The irony of you winning - or even being nominated - for a Hugo would be delicious.

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 2:20 PM  

Truth, you ignorant slut, Vox would have advised nominating Wright for a Hugo but he want eligible.

Wright is published by tor.

Now shut up, the adults are talking.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 2:25 PM  

I did have some questions regarding it, though; did you have a general discussion thread for your books?

Just shoot me an email and I will post the questions here for discussion.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 2:27 PM  

So, anyone but Tor. Sounds like a lame ballot.

You wouldn't know, since you obviously haven't read anything on it. As for Tor, they do a fine job of engineering plenty of votes. One might even note that they provided an example for others to follow.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 26, 2014 3:00 PM  

What is 'Best related work'?

Here is an example.

http://www.baen.com/zombiescience.asp

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 3:05 PM  

Blandness, thy name is DouPonce.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 3:11 PM  

Third time already in 15 minutes? Just to let you know, "will", I have contacted Verizon and I am sending them a partial log of your activities.

Anonymous Will March 26, 2014 3:14 PM  

I doubt they care.
Blogger hasn't purged Vox Popoli after everything you've done, after all.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 3:21 PM  

On Kratman, 'Training for War. Is this available somewhere? I checked Amazon and Kratman's blog page but no luck. I'm a great fan of his, obviously, and would like to get this.

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 3:22 PM  

Anyone care for some popcorn?

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 3:24 PM  

I guess we'll find out. They're not the only organization I am contacting concerning your behavior. I gave you every chance to stop. You chose not to. Just remember that I gave you the chance to stop. You brought this on yourself.

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 3:26 PM  

It's hard to prove damages and harder still when you've deleted anything even remotely implicating.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 3:31 PM  

I would suggest Will beware the digital hunter and the many resources that there are on your friendly web. But, by all means keep at it. At least Josh and I will be improving the bottom line of our favorite popcorn retailer. Me, personally, I would rather take on Kratman in the weeds armed only with a pocket knife than Vox in any pissing match.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 3:35 PM  

It's not necessary to prove damages, will. There aren't any damages and I'm not threatening to sue you. But cyberstalking is a criminal offense in Massachusetts, where you live, and I have saved many of the thousands of comments that I deleted. All of them are also stored in the Verizon records, which I am arranging to obtain through my contacts there.

I'm contemplating hiring a private investigator as well, as I am aware that you have cyberstalked many other people. You're perfectly welcome to think I won't go to all this trouble if you like. I'm sure John Scalzi thought the same thing once when he started attacking me.

Anonymous Northern Troll Alliance March 26, 2014 3:35 PM  

I would suggest Will beware the digital hunter and the many resources that there are on your friendly web

The discerning reader realizes the digital hunter hasn't a clue...

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 3:37 PM  

The digital hunter is going to find himself the digital purged from blogspot.

Anonymous Myrddin March 26, 2014 3:39 PM  

Heheheh.

Best I can offer is well wishes for the sad puppies. But Grimnoire is next on my reading list.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 26, 2014 3:45 PM  

Good article BTW. I'm surprised I hadn't seen it before now.

When Graveyard was in diapers, I had urged Ringo to drop the RNA virus and go with a with a straight Rhabdovirus. Much easier to engineer. Big bug, very stable and it can be aersolized if you want it to do that, (hell it does that when you don't want it to do that). Neurotropic and neurologic, much easier to work with on the whole. Grad students play with them all the time.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 3:49 PM  

The digital hunter is going to find himself the digital purged from blogspot.

EXACTLY! Good luck. You will need it.

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 3:50 PM  

Keep stalking and doxing and maybe I'll succeed.

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 3:54 PM  

What a miserable little person.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 3:57 PM  

The digital hunter is going to find himself the digital purged from blogspot.

That's pretty unlikely. I'm friends with one of the high-level executives there. But one never knows, which is why I've set up a private domain blog with the intention of moving it there. I've just never gotten around to it.

The discerning reader realizes the digital hunter hasn't a clue...

I don't pretend I do. But I do have resources and I've already gotten quotes from two private investigators.

Keep stalking and doxing and maybe I'll succeed.

You're the only one doing any stalking here, "will". And I am far from the only person you have stalked.

Anonymous WaterBoy March 26, 2014 4:03 PM  

Dennis Markuze II. Sans death threats, maybe.

Anonymous WaterBoy March 26, 2014 4:06 PM  

"when you've deleted anything even remotely implicating"

Somebody apparently has never heard of "logs".

Gone, but not forgotten. This is the story of Andrew Rotten.

Blogger Markku March 26, 2014 4:10 PM  

I had the impression that just before I came here in the earlier part of 2000's, someone had been made into an example. I'll be interested to actually see it this time.

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 4:11 PM  

"Private investigators," you mean professional stalkers, right?

And with due respect, you're the one who made calls to people you thought knew me.

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 4:17 PM  

So you're sucking Blogger's metaphorical dick. That might actually explain why they haven't even put a content warning on this blog.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 4:21 PM  

And with due respect, you're the one who made calls to people you thought knew me.

Yes, "will", I am in the process of nailing down your identity. It's possible that you are not the Andrew who works at the New England Wildlife Center on Mondays. It's even possible that you are more than one person. I'm not taking anything for granted.

You have my attention now. And it isn't just me, it's a number of people you have stalked over the years. You chose very, very poorly when you selected your targets this time. We're not the little girls you used to terrify on LiveJournal.

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 4:22 PM  

Too bad your information happens to be wrong.

Anonymous Jeromus March 26, 2014 4:24 PM  

I am pretty sure I have seen this episode of House of Cards.

Anonymous Grey Enlightenment March 26, 2014 4:28 PM  

I've wondered is it easier or better to start out writing novellas and short stories over full-fledged novels? Secondly, outside of Amazon, where is the market or novellas?

Blogger Bogey March 26, 2014 4:31 PM  

Analog, Asimov's, and Fantasy & Science Fiction take submissions, Grey.

Blogger Bogey March 26, 2014 4:34 PM  

https://www.analogsf.com/information/submissions.shtml
http://www.asimovs.com/info/guidelines.shtml
https://www.sfsite.com/fsf/glines.htm

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 4:38 PM  

So you're sucking Blogger's metaphorical dick.

It's usually just lunch, as it happens. Occasionally coffee. But I'm not joking, "will". Either you will email me a sincere, written admission of your cyberstalking here, sign it with your real name, and cease commenting here and at the other blogs you've stalked, or I will see to it that your cyberstalking activities are unearthed and exposed in detail.

"Doxing" doesn't even begin to describe it. You may not like me, but you know I am patient and thorough. It's up to you. I'm giving you one last chance to stand down. I would recommend that you take it.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 4:42 PM  

Too bad your information happens to be wrong.

That may well be. I am no expert in these matters and I am aware you may be hiding behind a stalking horse. Perhaps you are not actually Yama. That's why I am enlisting the aid of people I know at Verizon and will bring in the professionals if necessary.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 4:43 PM  

I've wondered is it easier or better to start out writing novellas and short stories over full-fledged novels?

That's the traditional approach, but it's no longer necessary thanks to Amazon.

Anonymous Nathan March 26, 2014 4:45 PM  

This year felt like a weak one for SFF. I've been trying to scrape up nomination ideas for a while, although I think it's time to write off the fan categories. There's only so much squeeing a man can take.

At least next year's eligible works are looking good with To Sail a Darkling Sea, Words of Radiance, and Judge of Ages.

As for the Tor thing, with the Wheel of Time being eligible for this year, I know it'll make the ballot without anyone's help. I'd rather use my 5th nomination in the category for some lesser known work. (That and the series is the poster child for Needs an Editor. Unfortunately, I fear that the Stormlight Archive will replace it.)

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 4:49 PM  

"Private investigators," you mean professional stalkers, right?

Legal, licensed, and bonded professional stalkers.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 4:50 PM  

Note: clicking Castalia.com is still taking you to the Osoite site. For when you or Markku have time....

My popcorn has popped. Too early for bourbon, a bit of amaretto perhaps [may the Lord forgive me].

Anonymous will March 26, 2014 4:50 PM  

I guess there's little point in trying to elicit incriminating comments if Blogger is literally, rather than metaphorically, giving you carte blanche to stalk.

So I'll leave you with one very important thought: Pardon the clichéd metaphor, but you have abnormally thin skin for an award winning cruelty artist. Whatever that is. Heh heh heh.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo March 26, 2014 4:52 PM  

Speaking of SF, what's the deal with Castalia's site? Was it attacked?

Blogger Markku March 26, 2014 4:56 PM  

DNS problems. Will take a couple of days to resolve as the correct values get around the internet again. Can't do anything but wait until that.

Blogger Markku March 26, 2014 5:00 PM  

Osoite.fi is the ISP. My guess is they restored a backup which contained some default DNS entries, and they managed to spread before it was caught. But I'm no pro with DNS's, this is just my guess.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 5:01 PM  

I guess there's little point in trying to elicit incriminating comments if Blogger is literally, rather than metaphorically, giving you carte blanche to stalk.

Carte blanche, yes, but not to stalk. That's the bright line you've never understood. I have never trolled or stalked anyone. There are entire blogs devoted to nothing but attacking me. That's fine. That's free speech. I don't object to that, just as John Scalzi knows better than to object to me writing about him on my blog.

But here is where you cross the line. When Scalzi told me he didn't want me commenting on a certain post, I stopped. I never commented on his blog again. You, on the other hand, insist on repeatedly commenting on sites against the wishes of the owners. And that's the problem.

It's not the criticism that is the problem, it is where you do it. You do it in your own house, not in someone else's and not on neutral territory like Amazon or wherever.

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 5:01 PM  

Wait wait wait, did the troll just say "I'll leave you"?

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 5:21 PM  

Wait wait wait, did the troll just say "I'll leave you"

Believe he [she or it] did. My goodness, did the heat in the kitchen just become unbearable?

Thanks Markku. Since Vox mostly mirrors things and announcements from Castalia on this blog, for now, it's no problem.
But, I sure would like to find out about Kratman's On training for War. I believe that was mentioned some months ago? As a future project. If its out I'm buying.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo March 26, 2014 5:31 PM  

@ Markku

Thanks. I thought maybe the rabbits were already working to derail it.

Anonymous Northern Troll Alliance March 26, 2014 5:36 PM  

A) I am no expert in these matters...
B) Perhaps you are not actually Yama...
C) I am in the process of nailing down your identity...
D) It's possible that you are not the Andrew who...
E) It's even possible that you are more than one person...

F) it's a number of people you have stalked over the years.

F doesn't follow from A through E...

I'm not taking anything for granted...

Hells yeah you are.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 26, 2014 5:47 PM  

Jack:

Just google for "kratman training for war". That will pull up parts 1-5. For part six go to: http://www.baen.com/WarTraining-Part6.asp.

There are some typos and the footnotes appear screwed until it goes up as a single piece.

Anonymous Nathan March 26, 2014 5:52 PM  

@jack,

Training for War is in the Baen Free Libray at baenebooks.com. The first three parts are in Free Nonfiction 2013, with the fourth in Free Nonfiction 2014. I'd link, but I never bothered to learn html and it's my understanding that copied and pasted links are a bit of a pet peeve here.

Anonymous Don March 26, 2014 5:52 PM  

When he says he's leaving he's saying, "I'm not having sex with you and yes I'll be back under another name."

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 6:07 PM  

OT: Belgium just banned sexism online.

I cannot wait for the black knighting lawsuits against feminist bloggers to begin.

Blogger Unknown March 26, 2014 6:25 PM  

Good grief. Krumhorn is neither bad enough to deserve a Hugo (considering the recent 'winners') nor good enough to deserve an award. I understand and have supported Larry's point, because 'Best' should make as good as possible attempt to find and award to the best, rather than PC/fashionable/well-promoted/lobbied-for with a very small non-representative group (Worldcon attendees do not represent sf/fantasy readers accurately, IMO), but its value to readers must be rapidly approaching the Nebula. Now if they changed the reason for the award to being best popularity-lobbying effort at Worldcon, I'd have not a problem in the world with it.

As for 'Truth' (Pravda?) 'anyone but Tor' - one of the many problems with the Hugo is that voting pool is extremely small - a few hundred 'engaged' Worldcon attendees bother (or are prepared to vote for a candidate when they haven't read all the nominated works - which is my position - I won't vote unless I have read them, and mostly I haven't). The winner may actually only garner a couple of hundred votes, and, obviously, the margin between 'winner' and 'also-ran' is possibly as little as one vote. Tor authors and staffers - who inevitably will vote as this matters to them and they are lobbied to do so - make up a substantial proportion of the voters. It's a large organization, with a lot of staff and a lot of authors compared to any of the others. Joe's Hole-inna-wall publisher - staff 1, not attending, with their nominee author Fred Greatbook (attending) has 1 shoo-in vote (for himself). Tor has say 50 or more - quite enough to take a Tor book from last place to winning. That - to me - is a as good a reason to commend 'anyone but Tor'. From my straight-laced POV, interested parties ought to abstain, and lobbying should disqualify the work.

Anonymous B Lewis March 26, 2014 6:56 PM  

Will and troll: you don't scare me.

I'm laughing at the "superior intellect".

Anonymous Northern Troll Alliance March 26, 2014 7:09 PM  

B Lewis, that's awesome!!! I'm proud of you.

Anonymous B Lewis March 26, 2014 7:24 PM  

Ooooh, I'm soooo scared.

Anonymous AXCrom March 26, 2014 7:29 PM  

VD - please delete if this goes too far.

Yama/Andrew/Will etc. is warned not to troll, multiple times. YAW trolls regardless. Consider for a moment our host here:

1. Millionaire, if not more than a few times over. This means financial resources most people do not have including the ability to hire assistance in tracking people down worldwide.
2. Not under the jurisdiction of any US law, as he is on another continent and may hold multiple passports.
3. Has in the last few months discussed here both a.) his connections in the tech and business world and b.) His father's growing influence as a jailhouse lawyer inside the US Federal prison system.

Nevermind the martial arts training, is this really someone you want to needlessly fuck with until they take an active dislike of you? None of these three items above would stop me if I had been genuinely wronged and maliciously injured by someone, I would do what I needed to do. However, VD has not wronged you in any way apart from writing things that piss you off and deleting your inane comments.

As Nate might say, "Damn, son."

Anonymous Susan March 26, 2014 7:35 PM  

As the great philosopher Bugs Bunny once said with a sneer in his voice and a twinkle in his eye, "Of course you know, this means war".

The stalker troll doesn't stand a chance. You guys bring the popcorn and I'll treat to the Makers.

Anonymous Don March 26, 2014 7:43 PM  

Vox - Is it possible we could get an update once you know for sure who/what Clamps really is?

I mean if he really is a 20 or 30 something loser who occasionally helps out at the animal shelter because he cannot deal with real life relationships that would make sense and confirm my view of the world as somewhat rational.

If on the other hand he turns out to be a mega hot and successful female writer who is also a multi-blackbelt who can beat up men twice her size, I just may need to become a liberal. Because that would show he knew what he was talking about. I still dream about the greatest swordswoman...

Anonymous Northern Troll Alliance March 26, 2014 7:49 PM  

AXcrom; you forget what probably isn't already an Internet axion, but should be, whatever you think you know about someone because they've said it online, divide by 10.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 26, 2014 7:56 PM  

Jack:

Oh, and note that that is just a serialized article. I will eventually turn it into a book which will likely be neither free nor digital only.

Blogger Nate March 26, 2014 7:57 PM  

"AXcrom; you forget what probably isn't already an Internet axion, but should be, whatever you think you know about someone because they've said it online, divide by 10."

Its a decent rule of thumb. Just like MPAI.... Most People on The Net are liars.

That does not mean ALL people on the net are liars.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 8:04 PM  

Nevermind the martial arts training, is this really someone you want to needlessly fuck with until they take an active dislike of you?

Forget me, what about Correia... and LT COL KRATMAN?

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 8:08 PM  

AXcrom; you forget what probably isn't already an Internet axion, but should be, whatever you think you know about someone because they've said it online, divide by 10.

Sure, but the things he mentions are mostly matters of public record. I mean, you do know my father was sentenced to nearly 12 years in federal prison, right? Do you really think I'm lying about the whole European thing and I actually live in Des Moines or something?

Blogger Bogey March 26, 2014 8:09 PM  

http://www.baen.com/WarTraining-Part6.asp

Parts 1-5 can be had if you just change the last part of that link to a 1, 2, 3 etc.

Anonymous Northern Troll Alliance March 26, 2014 8:15 PM  

VD: it should be obvious that he mentioned quite a bit more than your country of residence and your father's incarceration.

Anonymous Vidad March 26, 2014 8:16 PM  

"Do you really think I'm lying about the whole European thing and I actually live in Des Moines or something?"

With a really nice lawn.

Anonymous Josh March 26, 2014 8:19 PM  

Forget me, what about Correia... and LT COL KRATMAN?

So Vox, Larry, and Tom walk into a wildlife center...

Blogger Nate March 26, 2014 8:29 PM  

"it should be obvious that he mentioned quite a bit more than your country of residence and your father's incarceration."

Fenris wolf is a matter of public record.

Psychosonic is a matter of public record.

What else would you like to question?

Anonymous AXCrom March 26, 2014 8:29 PM  

@Northern Troll Alliance - "VD: it should be obvious that he mentioned quite a bit more than your country of residence and your father's incarceration."

I have been reading here since 2003. I have had a few names, finally settled on this one a few years back after some Pandagonian trolls showed up using my old nom de guerre. I have never met Vox, I may have been in the same building with him back in Houston during the Enron boom days but don't recall anyone with a Mohawk haircut in the Energizer at lunch.

I also may have been in the same building as Nate, as I am pretty sure that his wife did the anesthesia for my Dad's procedure in Cookeville a number of years back and I am betting Dr. Who was the anesthesiologist.

Not everyone on the Internet lies, and if all this is bullshit and VD actually lives next door to Scalzi and does this all out of lawn jealousy, then so what? My point still stands, sometimes you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 8:44 PM  

Thanks Bogey. You can usually depend on the Ilk. Thank God.

Anonymous Anonymous March 26, 2014 8:45 PM  

Not possible; men don't play soccer in Des Moines.

Anonymous Northern Troll Alliance March 26, 2014 8:45 PM  

AXCrom; Not everyone on the Internet lies, and if all this is bullshit and VD actually lives next door to Scalzi and does this all out of lawn jealousy, then so what?

There're quite a few options available between "living next door to Scalzi" and your fanboyish idealized preception of VD.

My point still stands, sometimes you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with.

Sure, but given the very limited effect VD has had on Scalzi over the duration of this "feud" and his inability to accuratly identify trolls indicates fucking with him wouldn't be the worst thing you could choose to do.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 8:50 PM  

Re Tom: I want the ebook and the print version. If it's as good as I think it may be, and I have not downloaded it yet, then, what a nice technical manual of how to do war. Now, I'm assuming this is something like a tech manual on how to's. If not, write one. A large percentage of the Ilk will have to have a copy. You know; for when that day comes when just nothing else will do....Some of it I will already know; some, not so much, I think.
Got a bet with myself that Correia will have to have copy.

Blogger Nate March 26, 2014 8:51 PM  

"There're quite a few options available between "living next door to Scalzi" and your fanboyish idealized preception of VD.'

Idealized? How is it idealized?

Again... What specifically are you taking issue with? Are you claiming Vox wasn't actually part of Psychosonic? Are you claiming Fenris Wolf didn't do what Vox claims they did? Or are you saying he wasn't actually part of Fenris Wolf?

The fact is mate... one of the best reasons you have to believe Vox is who he says he is... is that he down plays all of this. he is accused of bragging about it... but if you look you'll see he doesn't actually write about his past accomplishments much at all in comparison to other topics.

Anonymous The N.T.A. March 26, 2014 9:04 PM  

Mate; go back and reread, and then explain what you think Psychosonic and Fenris Wolf have to do with what was said.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 9:09 PM  

Idealized? How is it idealized?

It's the money thing. It's always the money thing. Never mind that in my experience, that sort of wealth is a curse more often than it's a blessing. My family probably would have been fine if my parents hadn't gotten wealthier than they could handle.

My Dad was worth several hundred million for a while there, and if just one or two breaks had gone his way, he would have been a multi-billionaire. Instead, he's in prison and he's got nothing. And he blew more money on things like Irish factories and political magazines than most people can imagine. We're talking tens of millions. So, yeah, I'm not much impressed by lawns, or boats, or planes.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 26, 2014 9:26 PM  

It's a how to, Jack, but it's a how to on training for war, just like the title. There are mentions of how to do war, but they're mostly implicit to or in support of the training aspect of it. For the most part it's geared toward company and battalion commanders. That said, the article / series is one / world; the book would have a lot more detail on how and why to do X and Z.

Blogger Nate March 26, 2014 9:32 PM  

"t's the money thing. It's always the money thing. Never mind that in my experience, that sort of wealth is a curse more often than it's a blessing. My family probably would have been fine if my parents hadn't gotten wealthier than they could handle. "

Ok... but rich people exist.

And its not like its unheard of for rich people to have quirky political views... or even bizarre views.

The money thing makes even more sense.

Anonymous VD March 26, 2014 9:42 PM  

The money thing makes even more sense.

Sure, but I'm not what I would call rich. Not poor, certainly, but not rich. As one of my friends who is in the tech investment world says, there are only three wealth levels. Poor, not poor, and fuck you. The latter being the category of individual who has enough to be able to say "fuck you" to anyone and everything. I'm just not poor.

Being wealthy is a skill. I know the guy who was the initial investor in Skype. He thought he had the Midas touch, hell, a lot of people did. Was involved in dozens of European companies; very badly wanted to invest in one of mine about five years ago. Then he bought a newspaper, sunk a bunch of money into it, and was wiped out. That's fairly typical with the too much, too fast crowd.

They always lose everything by pushing all their chips back onto the table.

Blogger Nate March 26, 2014 10:20 PM  

"They always lose everything by pushing all their chips back onto the table."

There is also the generational thing at play. It amazes me how many time a man builds a massive empire... only to see his children piss it away as soon as he dies.

They just want the money.

Its like we've forgotten how to pass along the drive and work ethic to the next generation.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 10:28 PM  

@Tom Kratman: For the most part it's geared toward company and battalion commanders.

I downloaded it and will dig in the next few days. The little I glanced at confirms it's more traditional war, I think. I would love for you to do one of those, probably combined with fiction books, on more in depth asymmetrical warfare. Now, one can get quite an education on the subjects by just reading your fiction works. I think I've read almost all of them except Yellow Eyes, I believe.
You did State of Disobedience, which I loved and have read two times now. A series with your ideas about how to conduct asymmetric campaigns in cities and out in the rural areas in the modern USA would be interesting. And, probably a runaway best seller.

Anonymous Harsh March 26, 2014 10:29 PM  

It's amazing that trolls like Will and Northern Troll Alliance are so much like betas with one-itis. The just don't understand normal human social interaction at all. First comes the obsession, then the stalking, then the angry threats, then the restraining orders.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 26, 2014 10:49 PM  

Jack; if there's in anything in life I am sure of, it's that I will never have - a more cynical and paranoid man might say, "or be permitted to have" - a runaway bestseller.

How many writers do you know that have been blackballed by the New York Times and, near as I can tell, Publisher's Weekly? (I eventually told Toni, "Let's just not send review copies to PW for my stuff anymore.")

I have been tempted from time to time to do something under a very liberal-sounding pseudonym (say, "MS Juanita Mitsumoto Patesh Running Bear Lincoln"), just to see if I could bait the fuckers.

Anonymous Don March 26, 2014 11:12 PM  

Tom your writing is as distinct as it gets. What do other active duty or retired guys think of this? Have any seen it? What do they think of your regular work? Not being a lawyer, all decent people hate you for being a lawyer. Being Christian though I forgive you. It's kind of like being a serial killer or sex offender but harder to live down.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 26, 2014 11:26 PM  

Never asked.

Ha! You civilian types think lawyers are the enemies general of mankind. As far as it goes; it's true of course. And then you become one and realize that they've ceased being enemies general and become your enemies in particular...

I actually haven't practiced law in over ten years.

Anonymous jack March 26, 2014 11:34 PM  

OK Tom: Runaway best sellers among the Ilk if no one else. At least there is Baen and Castalia House. I see Castalia moving at light speed and am enjoying everything about what VD and Markku are doing with this fledgling company. I suppose it's still just the two of them? Maybe with a set of significant others to help out now and again? Or not. It's a narrow specialty to be able to edit works, take them to market and the grunt work of ebook setup must be causing the both of them to lose much sleep. Entrepreneurship at its best.

Blogger redlegben March 27, 2014 12:34 AM  

I liked Tom...until I found out he was a lawyer. So this either means he is the first lawyer I like or he disavows the profession.

Blogger Tom Kratman March 27, 2014 12:43 AM  

See above, Ben.

Actually, most people like and value _their_own_ lawyers. It's just the class that's detested.

Blogger Unknown March 27, 2014 12:51 AM  

"Sure, but I'm not what I would call rich. Not poor, certainly, but not rich. As one of my friends who is in the tech investment world says, there are only three wealth levels. Poor, not poor, and fuck you. The latter being the category of individual who has enough to be able to say "fuck you" to anyone and everything. I'm just not poor."

Does this "fuck you" money mean that you can live off it for the rest of your life without taking interest?

I'm asking this because Islam is fairly harsh on those who engage in usury...

Blogger Unknown March 27, 2014 1:13 AM  

"You, on the other hand, insist on repeatedly commenting on sites against the wishes of the owners. And that's the problem."

Why don't you just IP ban them? Is this not possible?

Anonymous Anonymous March 27, 2014 2:20 AM  

There is also the generational thing at play. It amazes me how many time a man builds a massive empire... only to see his children piss it away as soon as he dies.

For a person may labor with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then they must leave all they own to another who has not toiled for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. (Ecclesiastes 2:21)

Anonymous Anonymous March 27, 2014 4:44 AM  

Okay, thought of a Tor novel I can nominate:

The Third Kingdom by Terry Goodkind. Happy now?

Anonymous VD March 27, 2014 4:53 AM  

Why don't you just IP ban them? Is this not possible?

It isn't with the Blogger comment system. But I've had comment systems where it is possible and all they do is start using IP proxies. The annoying thing is that not a single comment system provides an easy "Delete all comments from this Name" feature".

I've even had my executive friend at Google tell the Blogger team that they should do something like that, and they came back with, "well, we have a Spam feature". Twice, since I told them, yes, you do, but it doesn't work very well. It's very annoying because all they have to do is put the same search features into their comment system that they already have in the post system.

Blogger Unknown March 27, 2014 5:09 AM  

"But I've had comment systems where it is possible and all they do is start using IP proxies."

Well, then I'm out of my element. I saw my share of trolls, but none but one had this kind of herpes like persistance.

Pretty sure this is genuine pathology.

Anonymous Toby Temple March 27, 2014 6:15 AM  

Why don't you just IP ban them? Is this not possible?

IPs can be changed so easily.

Blogger Pax_Romana March 27, 2014 3:33 PM  

"IPs can be changed so easily."

Yeah, I was in the command structure for some Day of Defeat Clan, and we had a lunatic troll stalk us, get our real names, addresses, etc, and was nearly ban-proof because he had some sort of rotating IP algorithm (or something; I'm not a tech guy).

It wasn't until the head of the clan - a former Army Paratrooper and certified Alpha - told him to fuck off or face him like a man IRL (since, surprise, the paratrooper found out where Troll lived).

At this point, the little rabbit scurried back into his den.

Anonymous tiredofitall March 28, 2014 9:25 AM  

"Nevermind the martial arts training, is this really someone you want to needlessly fuck with until they take an active dislike of you? None of these three items above would stop me if I had been genuinely wronged and maliciously injured by someone, I would do what I needed to do. However, VD has not wronged you in any way apart from writing things that piss you off and deleting your inane comments." - AXCrom

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Blogger Andrew Porter May 03, 2014 3:12 PM  

"No anonymous comments"?

So, hiding under an anonymous screen name is okay?

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