Thursday, December 25, 2014

Merry Christmas

In the Year of Our Lord 2014, Christianity is under attack all over the globe. Tens of thousands of Christians have been murdered for their faith in the East and Middle East. In the West, what was once Christendom is under assault from a godless elite who fear and resent the threat that Christianity has always posed to secular authority. In the South, Christianity is growing, but it is as devoid of understanding as it is full of enthusiasm.

No ruler who is not himself a Christian will ever be entirely comfortable with subjects who do not view him as the highest and most legitimate authority. Most will be varying degrees of hostile, as we see across a broad spectrum from totalitarian dictators to democratically elected politicians. Augustus Caesar was the first, but was by no means the last, to insist that Christians accept his word as divine fiat, and future efforts in similar veins will be equally unsuccessful.

Predictions of Christianity's eventual demise tend to strike me as little more than either fearful or wishful thinking; as the Church's most serious enemies know, even the merest glow of an ember of faith is sufficient for the Lord God Almighty to turn it into a wildfire that scours the world. And one never knows when the winds of revival will again begin to blow.

A Time of Testing is upon us. Jesus said the world would hate us, as it hated him, but too many Christians, comfortable in the ruins of Christendom, still believe that it is possible to befriend the world, to be of it in good standing as well as in it. Soon enough, they will discover that just as tolerance of evil is not a virtue in God's eyes, even a nominal Christian identity will be sufficient to damn them in the world's eyes.

So choose this day, of all days, whom you will serve. If it seem to you that the world is good, a place of certain progress towards eventual human perfection, then serve those who are of the synagogue of Satan, the government, the elites, the world. Build your great global temple to Man, consecrate yourself as a human brick in the Pyramid of Progress.

But if instead you see the world as a place of evil, of corrupt men and fallen women, of darkness growing darker, of nihilism, of human liberty constrained where it is not twisted into libertinism, then the symbol of the child born in the manger will serve as a light against the darkness, a beacon of God's Love and Man's Hope.

Once, there was only darkness. But ever since the Star of Bethlehem shone in the night sky, the Light has been winning. That is what we celebrate today.

Merry Christmas.



Anonymous Shibes Meadow December 25, 2014 7:27 AM  

Shoot! I already posted my Christmas greetings in the previous thread.

Oh, well. クリストの誕生日、おめでとうございます! Merry Christmas to all!

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) December 25, 2014 7:29 AM  


Merry Christmas to Vox, Spacebunny, their family, and to the dread ilk and their families.

Anonymous Sensei December 25, 2014 7:35 AM  

Amen, Vox and well said. It seems 2015 will be a year of 'choosing this day whom you will serve.' Woe to those who choose poorly...

And Merry Christmas to all from East Asia, at the twilight borders of the Kingom. Here, at least, the dark rain that kept the embers of faith subdued and isolated shows signs of stopping. Aslan is well on the move as we enter 2015.

Anonymous Salt December 25, 2014 7:37 AM  

Merry Christmas to Vox, family, and all the Ilk.

Anonymous farmer Tom December 25, 2014 7:50 AM  

Amen and Merry Christmas to Vox, SB and all those who hang out here.

Galatians 4:4,5

"But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."

Anonymous Incurvatus December 25, 2014 7:53 AM  

A blessed Feast of the Nativity of our Lord to all the Dread Ilk.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet December 25, 2014 7:55 AM  

First gift of the day? The blog ate my comment like a slice of holiday cake!

Not sure how on point this is but I came across this verse last night and it gave me peace and goodcheer for the holiday when I needed it most.

Isaiah 46:4New International Version (NIV)

4 Even to your old age and gray hairs
I am he, I am he who will sustain you.
I have made you and I will carry you;
I will sustain you and I will rescue you.

Merry Christmas, Vox and family, Dread Ilk, trolls, and everyone. May you have joy, wherever the day finds you. Rejoice!

Anonymous philip December 25, 2014 7:57 AM  

Thank you Vox for your Christmas post, which I found inspirational and encouraging. It is appreciated.

Merry Christmas and my God bless you Vox, and your family, and all of the other Ilk.

Blogger Tank December 25, 2014 8:01 AM  


Anonymous Anonymous December 25, 2014 8:03 AM  

Thanks. I needed to hear this today. --JT

Anonymous Jeromus December 25, 2014 8:12 AM  

Merry Christmas Vox and to all the Dread Ilk!

Anonymous trev006 December 25, 2014 8:14 AM  

Merry Christmas, everyone. I hope we have many more. It's not the first time we have been tested, and if anyone can redeem fallen man, surely Jesus Christ can.

"The rich were increas-ingly giving up their powers, not in the face of revolution and com-pulsion, but in obedience to their own consciences. As for the poor who benefited by this, they were behaving in a most disappointing fashion."

Modern man, and especially the Ilk, have received many gifts from our Creator. The world is fallen, true, but people are worth saving from themselves. Today teaches us that. I'm going to try it, anyways.

Anonymous Dikaios Rik December 25, 2014 8:16 AM  

Amen. Merry Christmas to you and your family, Vox, and to all the Ilk.

Anonymous Anonymous December 25, 2014 8:29 AM  

Merry Christmas.

Anonymous Toby Temple December 25, 2014 8:37 AM  

Merry Christmas!

Blogger J Curtis December 25, 2014 8:42 AM  

Merry Christmas to VD & family and to all the Dread Ilk.

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Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein December 25, 2014 8:46 AM  

To all the liberal/leftist/progressive commenters on this blog:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or explicit, my best wishes for an
environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive,
gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the
most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular
practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion
and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or
secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally
fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally
accepted calendar year 2015, but not without due respect for the calendars of
choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America
great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country
nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without
regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee.

To Vox and his family, the Dread Ilk and theirs:

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Anonymous bloody barbarian December 25, 2014 8:49 AM  

Well said. Merry Christmas to you and yours, Vox -- and to the Ilk as well.

Blogger JDC December 25, 2014 9:07 AM  

Amen brother. A very Merry Christmas to the ilk.

Ah, dearest Jesus, holy Child,
Make thee a bed, soft, undefiled,
Within my heart, that it may be
A quiet chamber kept for Thee.
My heart for very joy doth leap,
My lips no more can silence keep,
I too must sing, with joyful tongue,
That sweetest ancient cradle song,
Glory to God in highest heaven,
Who unto man His Son hath given
While angels sing with pious mirth.
A glad new year to all the earth.

Anonymous daddynichol December 25, 2014 9:10 AM  

Amen, Vox. Amen.

Anonymous Noah B. December 25, 2014 9:11 AM  

Merry Christmas to all!

Anonymous Stilicho December 25, 2014 9:12 AM  

Amen! Merry Christmas!

Anonymous Spy December 25, 2014 9:19 AM  

Merry Christmas friends.

Blogger JDC December 25, 2014 9:28 AM  

It's commonly known that Christmas is a difficult time for many people, regardless of their faith (or lack thereof) tradition. Yesterday I visited three people who lost loved ones about a year ago, and another (my wife's cousin) who lost his wife two days ago to a bad antibiotic reaction. The yoke of Christmas can certainly be heavy - thank you Vox for making it a bit lighter.

Blogger Unknown December 25, 2014 9:33 AM  

Excellent message Vox. As always I enjoy reading your Blog. Merry Christmas to All! I would like to add my favorite scripture.

“ If you want a happy life and good days,
Keep your tongue from speaking evil,
And keep your lips from telling lies.
Turn away from evil and do good.
Work hard at living in peace with others.
The eyes of the Lord watch over those who do right,
and his ears are open to their prayers.
But the Lord turns his face
against those who do evil. “

Psalm 34: 12 - 16

Blogger dienw December 25, 2014 9:38 AM  

God keep you and yours.

Anonymous N5 December 25, 2014 9:40 AM  

I say this every year, but it always bears repeating: Many heartfelt thanks to our gracious host, and the Dread Ilk, for the knowledge that you all have shared over the years. I'm a better man for it. May His Peace be upon each of you.

Blogger clark December 25, 2014 9:51 AM  

Merry Christmas to all.

Anonymous Susan December 25, 2014 9:56 AM  

Merry Christmas to everyone! Many thanks to our gracious and very patient host for all the wisdom and entertainment he has provided this past year. May you and your family be blessed well Vox with joy and happiness in the New Year.
May the next year provide much amusement for us all.

Anonymous Micah December 25, 2014 9:57 AM  

"In the South, Christianity is growing, but it is as devoid of understanding as it is full of enthusiasm."

Vox, can you elaborate, maybe in a separate post, on what you mean by "devoid of understanding." I'm intrigued by the phrase you use here and have spent the last two years coming to believe this as well.

God bless you and your family

Merry CHRISTmas

Blogger macengr December 25, 2014 10:07 AM  

Well said, Vox. Merry Christmas to all!

Blogger SarahsDaughter December 25, 2014 10:13 AM  

Merry Christmas Vox, Spacebunny, and Ilk!

Anonymous Mark Plus December 25, 2014 10:19 AM  

Compartmentalize much, Vox? Of course christianity will disappear some day, but through organic means. Christians themselves set the precedent for this with their notion that religions have expiration dates: BC versus AD. Christianity has probably entered its own late, BC-like era.

Anonymous Aquila Aquilonis December 25, 2014 10:21 AM  

Merry Christmas!

Blogger VFM #430 December 25, 2014 10:24 AM  

Merry Christmas to all. May Gods grace be extended to all...we all need it.

Anonymous Kool Moe Dee December 25, 2014 10:48 AM  

Merry Christmas and best wishes for the new year. Great post.

Blogger Sanne December 25, 2014 11:06 AM  

Merry Christmas!

Anonymous Tom B December 25, 2014 11:17 AM  

Merry Christmas Vox, and all the Dread Ilk. May God bless us all!

Anonymous Bobo December 25, 2014 11:18 AM  

"For such a time as this, I was placed upon this earth..."

Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.

Merry Christmas all, and a prosperous New Year

Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers.
3John 1:2

Blogger JACIII December 25, 2014 11:24 AM  

Merry Christmas y'all.

Anonymous Corvinus December 25, 2014 11:33 AM  

Merry Christmas.

"In the South, Christianity is growing, but it is as devoid of understanding as it is full of enthusiasm."

Vox, can you elaborate, maybe in a separate post, on what you mean by "devoid of understanding." I'm intrigued by the phrase you use here and have spent the last two years coming to believe this as well.

Ever seen a Pentecostal service? (mic drop)

Anonymous Viidad December 25, 2014 11:37 AM  

@Mark Plus
"Compartmentalize much, Vox? Of course christianity will disappear some day, but through organic means. Christians themselves set the precedent for this with their notion that religions have expiration dates: BC versus AD. Christianity has probably entered its own late, BC-like era."

You have two choices: Bow before the King willingly now... or bow before Him later under the sheer horror of facing a burning and holy God.

Blogger Raggededge December 25, 2014 11:38 AM  

Merry Christmas, I always enjoy your Christmas day post, it's always one of your best of the year.

Anonymous Viidad December 25, 2014 11:42 AM  

And... excellent post, VD. Merry Christmas to you, your beautiful wife and your brilliant children.

Josh, Idle Spectator, Aardvark, SarahsDaughter, Markku, Daniel, daddynichol, Nate, Stickwick, Cranberry, Farmer Tom, Outlaw X, W. Lindsay Wheeler, Beau, rycamor... and many more I've forgotten: I may not be ripped but I am man enough to say I love you guys and wish you all a Merry Christmas.

Blogger Unknown December 25, 2014 11:49 AM  

Well said.

Linda Kay

Blogger Bogey December 25, 2014 11:53 AM  

Beautifully said Vox.

Merry Christmas Everyone.

Blogger Gunnarvoncowtown von Cowtown December 25, 2014 11:57 AM  

Merry Christmas!

Anonymous Nebo December 25, 2014 12:03 PM  

A well done Christmas post, as usual.

Merry Christmas to all!

Anonymous zen0 December 25, 2014 12:13 PM  

Mark Plus is right, Christianity the religion WILL disappear, as soon as the Kingdom is established, because there will be no longer need to look forward to the return of the King, when the King is on the Throne.

Anonymous WaterBoy December 25, 2014 12:16 PM  

Merry Christmas, Populites!

Anonymous oh well December 25, 2014 12:17 PM  

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Blogger jaericho December 25, 2014 12:17 PM  

Unto us a Savior is born, Merry Christmas!

Blogger Hacked acct. No longer your supporter $1.50 December 25, 2014 12:37 PM  

Wonderfully stated, our Light, counselor, prince and King is all that matters. Mercy Merry Christmas to Vox,SB, everyone, ilk, lurkers and those who don't care for our kind.

Blogger John Williams December 25, 2014 12:41 PM  

Amen Vox! Merry Christmas to you, all the Ilk, readers, and your families.

Anonymous BoysMom December 25, 2014 1:03 PM  

Merry Christmas!

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14

Anonymous Ostar December 25, 2014 1:05 PM  

Amen, Vox.
Christianity may be on the retreat in the West, and under attack everywhere, but it is growing in Africa and Asia (China specifically) despite, or perhaps BECAUSE, of the persecution.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 25, 2014 1:06 PM  

Merry Christmas!

Blogger MichaelJMaier December 25, 2014 1:07 PM  

"Christianity has probably entered its own late, BC-like era."

Allow to me to counter with:

"It's a vain generation
That looks for a sign
don't you think we could make
better use of our time" - John Mellencamp "Another Sunny Day 12/25"

Blogger MichaelJMaier December 25, 2014 1:08 PM  

I wish the best of God's blessings upon everyone here.

Hug your loved ones. Love them while you can.

Anonymous Stryker December 25, 2014 1:09 PM  

Amen, Vox, amen.

Anonymous HardReturn¶ December 25, 2014 1:18 PM  

Merry Christmas to Vox & family, Ilk, trolls, ankle-biters, etc. The peace of the Lord be with you always.

Anonymous Scooter December 25, 2014 1:18 PM  

Merry Christmas to Vox, his family, and all of the ilk.

I always enjoy your Christmas day post


Anonymous Anonymous December 25, 2014 1:19 PM  

Merry Christmas to all, and thanks for everyone. Thanks especially for a reminder to find some people to help with what I am blessed to have this day and in the days following.

And for the Jewish readers, let me take this time to tell you the updated-for-modern-times version of the Hanukah story, where after the great victory the Jews' cellphone held a charge for eight whole days so they could all call home to talk to their mothers, who were waiting at home alone in the dark.

Anonymous Kyle December 25, 2014 1:20 PM  

Merry Christmas, Ilk.

Anonymous Passinthough December 25, 2014 1:20 PM  

Merry Christmas to all.

Anonymous Godfrey December 25, 2014 1:29 PM  

How like the paradoxical Christian God that He pierces the darkness not in arrogant splendor and pomp in circumstance, but instead in poverty and humility and as a mere child. He turns the world upon its head. His ways are not the ways of man.

Anonymous Claymore December 25, 2014 1:32 PM  

Merry Christmas!

Gloria in excelsis deo
Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis

Glory to God in the highest
And on earth peace to people of good will

Anonymous Anonymous December 25, 2014 1:40 PM  

I see both. And I believe it's the only way forward.

Without Christ and the subsequent Christianity, there would be no science, no peace, and no so-called "enlightenment".

We are where we are (all the progress and good things in the world) because of the man from Nazareth. Science exists ultimately because of him.

But that is not enough. What is required now is some brave and honest few who defy the "scientody" and "scientism" of our day, and who will honestly dive into the psyche of man and look for the roots of our so-called "sin", and by so doing, eradicate it.

The rebellious mind of man tolerates little honesty when forced to look at itself and it's disposition to destructiveness and "sin". But some few must use the science collected so far, and defy the bullshit and dishonesty of such madmen like Pinker, Dawkins, EO Wilson, and the like, and get to the REAL cause of our "sin nature".

Without Christ, we would not be here. And we must not get lost in literalism and lose our ability to engage the nuance of scripture which may indeed point to a breakthrough in understanding our "dark side", that maybe science will (if only a brave few, in defiance of the majority) one day find.

Vox is right. The world IS dark. But there is no problem in the world except that which happens in the psyche of man. We must stand on where we came before, and at least TRY to get there. For fundamentalism (either secular or religious) will no longer do.

Merry Christmas to all. May some brave few eventually arrive.

Anonymous Cail Corishev December 25, 2014 2:00 PM  

Merry Christmas, everyone. And thanks to Vox and the Ilk for keeping this blog going and healthy throughout the year.

Anonymous Stephen J. December 25, 2014 2:31 PM  

Merry Christmas to all, and may God grant peace on earth and good will in the hearts of everyone.

Anonymous Rufus December 25, 2014 2:47 PM  

Excellent Christmas post!

insightful and challenging - that's why I read this blog daily.

Have a Blessed Christmas everyone!

Anonymous Logan December 25, 2014 3:05 PM  

Merry Christmas to Vox and the Ilk!

Blogger Thordaddy December 25, 2014 3:13 PM  

Objective Supremacy = The Perfect Man = Jesus Christ...

Vox... You are a Supremacist... A believer in objective Supremacy... You strive towards Supremacy...

This is without a doubt the essence of your internet persona...

And as long as you stay true to your professed belief, you will be "locked" in a frictionless parallelism with ALL OTHER genuine Supremacists of ANY ORIGIN... Including the genuine white Supremacist.

The "wrath" of objective Supremacy will not come from the South... History shows us that "it" only comes from the white man.

Anonymous WCU December 25, 2014 3:27 PM  

And the government shall be upon HIS shoulders! It cannot come soon enough; Maranatha, come Lord Jesus...Merry Christmas Vox and to the ilk!

Anonymous Anonymous December 25, 2014 3:53 PM  

And a very Merry Christmas to all the Ilk and Ilklings.

Blogger M. Bibliophile December 25, 2014 4:00 PM  

Emmanuel, God is with us! A Merry Christmas to all!

Anonymous AXCrom December 25, 2014 4:10 PM  

Merry Christmas to VD and his family, and to the Dread Ilk.

Anonymous Tar Heel December 25, 2014 4:15 PM  

What a lovely post. Merry Christmas, Vox, and Merry Christmas, Dread Ilk.

Like the late Mr. Stewart, I didn't bring a gift, but His Gift is what ultimately matters, doesn't it? It's not as though we can ever possibly give more!

Anonymous kh123 December 25, 2014 4:23 PM  

"How like the paradoxical Christian God that He pierces the darkness not in arrogant splendor and pomp in circumstance, but instead in poverty and humility and as a mere child. He turns the world upon its head. His ways are not the ways of man."

Also, given the ancient pedigree for power and victory, is also why it's one of the greatest stories/accounts ever told.

Anonymous JRL December 25, 2014 4:25 PM  

"The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has never mastered it"

Merry Christmas!

Blogger Silent Cal December 25, 2014 4:30 PM  

Merry Christmas!

Anonymous cheddarman December 25, 2014 4:31 PM  

Merry Christmas and God bless us everyone!

Blogger rumpole5 December 25, 2014 4:42 PM  

Ave verum corpus natum de Maria virgine!

Anonymous Johnny Rebb December 25, 2014 4:44 PM  

Last night at Christmas Eve service we had two babies start crying. What better reminder of that blessed day.

Merry Christmas to all the ilk. Thank you Vox for another terrific post. May God bless you and yours in this new year!

Blogger Iowahine December 25, 2014 5:01 PM  

Amen. Thanks to our host and to all who comment here that have led to enlightenment, which has produced positive change in me and my home. May I pass it on.

Blogger Pinakeli December 25, 2014 6:06 PM  

Merry Christmas to all, Ilk and otherwise!

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 25, 2014 6:06 PM  

Merry Christmas everybody!

Anonymous Pilgrim December 25, 2014 6:13 PM  

Merry Christmas to you!

Blogger Hacked acct. No longer your supporter $1.50 December 25, 2014 6:17 PM  

From Truth for LIfe ministries;

And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said "It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts." Thus Job did continually. Job 1:5

What Job did early in the morning, after the family festivities, it will be good for the believer to do for himself before he rests tonight. Amid the cheerfulness of household gatherings it is easy to slide into sinful frivolity and to forget our declared character as Christians. It ought not to be so, but sadly it is, that our days of feasting are very seldom days of sanctified enjoyment but too frequently degenerate into unholy amusement. It is possible to experience joy as pure and sanctifying as a dip in the rivers of Eden: Holy gratitude should be just as purifying an element as grief. Sadly for our poor hearts, facts prove that the house of mourning is better than the house of feasting.

Come, believer, how have you sinned today? Have you been forgetful of your high calling? Have you been like others in using empty words and unguarded speech? Then confess the sin, and flee to the sacrifice. The sacrifice sanctifies. The precious blood of the Lamb removes the guilt and purges the defilement of our sins of ignorance and carelessness. This is the best ending of a Christmas day—to wash anew in the cleansing fountain. Believer, come to this sacrifice continually; if it is good tonight, it is good every night. To live at the altar is the privilege of the royal priesthood; to them sin, bad as it is, is nevertheless no cause for despair, since they draw near once more to the sin-atoning victim, and their conscience is purged from dead works.

Gladly I close this festive day,
Grasping the altar's hallow'd horn;
My slips and faults are washed away,
The Lamb has all my trespass borne.

Blogger #6277Hammer December 25, 2014 6:27 PM  

Vox: "...even the merest glow of an ember of faith is sufficient for the Lord God Almighty to turn it into a wildfire that scours the world."

I'm always fascinated at how God used the mightiest empire in the world at the time to spread his Word.
Merry Christmas

Anonymous Anonymous December 25, 2014 6:35 PM  

Thanks, Vox. Merry Christmas to all of you.

Anonymous Giuseppe December 25, 2014 7:33 PM  

As I am not (yet) an official (technical?) Christian, please allow me to bestow a slightly "dark" gift to the ilk: Based on his comment further above in this thread (I read all of them) please allow me to introduce a new sentence -

Shut up T-D

It can apply equally to Tad or Thordaddy now.

May all the ilk and their families have a wonderful and happy Christmas, and may God's love fill your lives in 2015 and in the future.

Anonymous Carlotta December 25, 2014 8:28 PM  

May each of the ilk and those who silently read here be blessed. Thank you to Vox for being a gracious host and overseeing thought provoking discussions.

To the trolls, may you pass from desperately flailing about in darkness that seeks to devour you to the true freedom of the light. The gift is there for the taking. The one who has you in chains can be conquered. Has been conquered. Call on the name above all names.

God bless all.

Blogger Giraffe December 25, 2014 8:37 PM  

Merry Christmas, to Vox and the Dread Ilk!

Anonymous Daniel December 25, 2014 8:50 PM  

Merry Christmas to Ilk and to Ilk a good night!

Blogger Brad Andrews December 25, 2014 9:34 PM  

Late in the day, but family just left a while ago. A better Christmas in the past for me since I had one son over and just got a call from another (a MAJOR shift).

Merry Christmas to all!

Blogger Brad Andrews December 25, 2014 9:35 PM  

It is not a hard process Giuseppe. Just say that Jesus is Lord of your life (and mean it) and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. He will work out the rest.

Blogger Bob December 25, 2014 9:36 PM  

Merry Christmas.

Anonymous takin' a look December 25, 2014 9:57 PM  

Merry Christmas

Anonymous DeepThought December 25, 2014 11:15 PM  

Tens of thousands of Christians killed? How about Frances murder of nearly One million Algerians over a six year period from 1956 to 1962?

Or how about recently?

The tables below summarize reports on Iraqi casualty figures.

Scientific surveys:

Source Estimated violent deaths Time period
Iraq Family Health Survey 151,000 violent deaths March 2003 to June 2006
Lancet survey 601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths March 2003 to June 2006
Opinion Research Business survey 1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict March 2003 to August 2007
PLOS Medicine Survey[2] Approximately 500,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war. March 2003 to June, 2011

Just some of the surveys done on Iraqi civilian casualties from 2003 to 2011. Christians are responsible for MILLIONS of Muslim deaths in this half century.

Or how about the Christian against Christian genocide in Rwanda? Over One million Christians killed by other Christians.

Why don't you look at the list of the top genocides of this past century. Almost exclusively by CHRISTIAN nations.

I agree with much of what you say but to implicitly or explicity Muslims slaughter more Christians than the other way around is simply false.

Christian nations have been slaughtering Muslims by the millions with no justification and the Iraq Invasion and occupation was just another example. Christians are really good in killing other people, even their own kind, but should any indigenous people resist they must be evil.

The West has has been the source good and evil in this world and to hide the darker side of western civilization ensures we will never understand the hatred other people have toward the US. Just because western history does not teach the truth does not mean it did not happen.

Anonymous Anon December 25, 2014 11:24 PM  

"Christian nations have been slaughtering Muslims by the millions with no justification and the Iraq Invasion and occupation was just another example. Christians are really good in killing other people, even their own kind, but should any indigenous people resist they must be evil."

You apparently are not thinking very deeply despite your moniker. There are no "Christian" nations. America and Europe are postChristian and are fully secular despite the left over from the past superficial displays that go on around holidays.

Anonymous Anon December 25, 2014 11:27 PM  

"Christians are really good in killing other people, even their own kind, but should any indigenous people resist they must be evil."

Christians are really good at hanging their own brothers and sisters out to dry but they did the same thing to Christ.

Anonymous Anon December 26, 2014 12:20 AM  

"Christian nations have been slaughtering Muslims by the millions with no justification and the Iraq Invasion and occupation was just another example."

Just like in the opening scenes of the heretical movie "Gods and Kings". The Egyptians made war on the Hittites, Muslims are the Hittites of the 21st Century. You aren't being slaughtered by Christians. The spiritual forces in high places (Ephesians 6:12) are doing it through their proxy secular US armed forces. You are in the way of the sexy shiny futuristic utopia ie... great global pyramid Vox talked about and since you're in the way, they NOT Christians will dispatch you. And there will be and even greater dispatching of Muslims during WW3 on there way to building the pyramid. So no your accusations are completely fallacious. You don't even know who your real enemy is.

Anonymous Anon December 26, 2014 12:27 AM  

"The West" against Muslims is just one pagan kingdom swallowing up another pagan kingdom that is all. It happened all the time throughout history.

Anonymous Anon December 26, 2014 12:28 AM  

Merry Christmas.

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 12:45 AM  

Shouldn't there be a blog rule... Something indicative of a domain of objective Supremacy that says one cannot command another to "shut up" when a) the sufferer of Turret's syndrome NEVER ACTUALLY HEARD anything initially and b) the impact on the object is nil because that command actually needs to be voiced to have any effect?

BTW, Guiseppe... Are you an anti-Supremacist, anti-white Supremacist and/or "white" anti-white Supremacist? Or, is it all the above? With friends like you, who needs Christians?

Anonymous Jack Amok December 26, 2014 12:57 AM  

Thordaddy, shut up.

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 1:00 AM  

No doubt, Tad would toe the anti-white Supremacist line JUST LIKE YOU, Guiseppe... So your beef with him IS TOTALLY PHONY.

Your subtle attempt in making Tad = thordaddy is no more than your attempt at hiding the fact that Guiseppe = Tad as a fellow anti-white Supremacist. Can you "feel" that deception? That deception IS WHY you aren't a Christian by choice. You understand that with conversion you could not then be justifiably deceptive.

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 1:03 AM  


Are you or are you not a "white" anti-white Supremacist?

In other words, do you have a meaningless white exterior from which you project a frothing hatred for self-identified white men who attempt to strive towards Supremacy?

Blogger Dos Voltz December 26, 2014 1:04 AM  

Merry Christmas, everyone.

Nice one, Vox.

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 1:12 AM  

If one is an anti-Supremacist and wishes others "Merry Christmas" then the obvious conclusion to be drawn is "deception."

Now to take it one step further is to observe a cabal of anti-Supremacists wishing each other "Merry Christmas." This evidences a collective deception at hand.

The question is what is the THE PURPOSE of this deception? Why are a bunch of anti-Supremacists wishing each other "Blessed is the birth of The Perfect Man?"

It is though one is HIDING something.

Anonymous Ben December 26, 2014 1:46 AM  

I was away from a device that was able to post for a few days, so a late Merry Christmas to VD, SB, and assorted Ilkdom.

also shutup TD

Blogger S. Thermite December 26, 2014 1:54 AM  

So what do you make of Luke 9:48, TD? Sounds like you should have wished for a brain from Santa. I also get the distinct impression that your favorite brand of "white supremacy" is the kind you buy on the street in a plastic baggie when the cops aren't looking.

Blogger S. Thermite December 26, 2014 1:57 AM  

Merry belated Christmas to Vox, the Ilk, and all the rest of the respectful observers!

Anonymous patrick kelly December 26, 2014 1:59 AM  

"He will work out the rest."

There is always a lot of rest to work out.......

Anonymous patrick kelly December 26, 2014 2:01 AM  

"It is though one is HIDING something."

What, why didn't I get the Ilk memo ??!?!? WTF am I supposed to be hiding from TD now ?!?!?

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 2:07 AM  

Honestly... Only Vox's rebuttal shall have any meaning. He's the only reputed "white supremacist" who is actually a red Supremacist WELL STUDIED in genuine white Supremacy.

white Christian = white Supremacist...

Who will claim this as a false equation?

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 2:09 AM  

Patrick Kelly...

You're supposed to be hiding from the fact that you are most likely a "white" anti-white Supremacist that fashions himself a "Christian?"

Yeah or nay?

Anonymous Jack Amok December 26, 2014 2:37 AM  

Merry Christmas Thordaddy. Good of you to make time to stop by.

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 2:44 AM  

Thanks Jack.Amok... May you contemplate the birth of The Perfect Man and what his existence really means to the white male of the West battling the onslaught of Equality...

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Anonymous Johnny Caustic December 26, 2014 2:56 AM  

I just had a fantastic Christmas with friends and family, and hope all of you are basking in the same warmth.

Let Jesus Christ be a reminder to all of us that it's a damn good thing humans aren't anything close to equal, and that the better among us have a duty to discipline and teach our lessers, and sometimes to provide for them, as a father to a child.

Blogger Dos Voltz December 26, 2014 3:01 AM  

Never trust anyone who uses the word "evidence" as a verb.

Blogger Dos Voltz December 26, 2014 3:06 AM  

Is this not better?

From some guy named Jefferson:

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

This is comforting to my ears. "Evinces" is more like "reveal" whereas "evidences" is more like something from a bad NCIS script.

If Jefferson had used "evidences," I dare say I might have favored George the king, rather than George the general and farmer.

Any wordsmiths in the house? Etymological historians? Help a brother out?

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 3:27 AM  


My argument requires no need for mutual trust.

Anonymous Uncle Fester December 26, 2014 9:43 AM  

God Bless the Ilk, one and all.

Blogger Patrikbc December 26, 2014 10:14 AM  

Jesus was white, and real white Christians are intrinsically white supremists? Really?

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 2:10 PM  


You read enough responses like this ^^^ over the years and you realise how absolutely worthless is the deracinated "white Christian."

Jesus Christ is The Perfect Man... I am a white Supremacist. There is no real confusion other than the "confusion" that you are attempting to manufacture.

A REAL Christian BELIEVES in objective Supremacy. Ergo, a white Christian IS a white Supremacist. Jesus Christ's skin color need not even be a part of the discussion. It's irrelevant in so far as YOU TRYING to persuade yourself that I was actually making some claim over the race of The Perfect Man.

What's your major malfunction other than a deep seated allegiance to Liberalism and your deracinated state of being?

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 3:15 PM  

You cannot throw your "extremists" under the bus...

To the white Christian, the white Supremacist is your "extremist."

Anonymous Beau December 26, 2014 6:16 PM  

Merry Christmas

Blogger Patrikbc December 26, 2014 7:07 PM  

I'm certainly not a liberal, I was only trying to see if I was clear what you were saying, now I'm clear. Don't be so arrogant as to assume you know more than you do. K, thanks

Blogger Thordaddy December 26, 2014 8:11 PM  


Unless you are a Supremacist, you are some degree of liberal. And in the zero sum game, one degree of liberal = 360 degrees of liberal.

Blogger Rantor December 27, 2014 6:48 AM  

A belated, post Boxing Day, Merry Christmas to all the Dread Ilk wherever they may be.

Blogger jmarinara December 29, 2014 6:04 PM  

Bravo, Vox. Bravo.

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