Friday, December 26, 2014

The serfs revolt

The British Labour Party is learning the same lesson as Hillary Clinton and the DFL representatives in Minneapolis. Those useful, politically subservient minorities imported to undermine the opposition cease to be useful or subservient once they start outnumbering the former majority in the party that depended upon them:
Labour have seen a collapse in their crucial ethnic minority vote since 2010 in a blow for Ed Miliband with three quarters of Indian voters abandoning the party. Influential pollsters say that Labour are mistaken in their belief they are "sitting pretty" with the ethnic minority vote and Indian, Pakistani and African voters are turning away from the party in huge numbers.

The number of Indian voters identifying with the Labour party has fallen from 77 per cent in 1997 to just 18 per cent in 2014 - a fall of over three quarters, according to the figures from the British Election Study.

Pakistani support has fallen from 77 to 57 per cent, a fall of 27 per cent. Meanwhile Carribean support has dropped 14 per cent from 78 to 67 per cent. Support from the African community has dropped by 20 per cent, from 79 to 63 per cent, the research shows.

The survey will be difficult reading for Mr Miliband as his party sees loyal support among ethnic minority voters disappear just as the numbers of ethnic minority voters in Britain increase. 
Ethnic politics are a two-edged sword for the white politicians of the Left. The Republican Party is merely a generation away from becoming the White Party. Already, both the Labour Party and the Democratic Party are headed by non-white nationals; it will be interesting to see how long both parties tolerate white leaders, if in fact they accept them at all.

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Blogger Dark Herald December 26, 2014 4:50 PM  

I keep saying hispanics won't keep taking orders from Northeast Liberals forever.

Nobody ever believes me.

Anonymous Festivus Celebrantus December 26, 2014 4:52 PM  

Happy Boxing day y'all.

Anonymous Stilicho December 26, 2014 5:08 PM  

Ah, but the current crop of leftists always believes they'll be retired before the bill comes due.

Anonymous WCU December 26, 2014 5:12 PM  

I'm always pleasantly surprised at the notion of this Austria-Hungarian conglomeration known as the Democrat Party will continue according to their white party faithful...I thought the Republican Party was weak ( just stupid and playing the part of an abused wife)... Democrats are already showing cracks that cannot be cemented with adhesives like: tolerance, acceptance and community. These are certainly interesting times we live in.

Anonymous H2 December 26, 2014 5:17 PM  

In the middle of reading Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire: Not exactly like America, but it's darkly amusing to see Gibbon chastising the Romans for letting tens, if not hundreds of thousands of other ethnics into their lands and calling them "Romans". There was even a page talking about how the Romans tried to resettle thousands of Germanics around the empire!

Blogger sykes.1 December 26, 2014 5:24 PM  

The NAACP purged Whites and Jews a generation ago.

Anonymous Al December 26, 2014 5:26 PM  


If you liked that in Gibbon, you'll enjoy reading a section of Charles Kingsley's "The Roman and the Teuton": it's pages 20 to 27 in this 1875 edition, and is well worth your time:

Blogger Franz Lionheart December 26, 2014 5:31 PM  

both the Labour Party and the Democratic Party are headed by non-white nationals

How are Ed Milliband and Nick Clegg not white?

Blogger Franz Lionheart December 26, 2014 5:34 PM  

Oh. Ouch, my apologies. You meant the American Democrats, not the UK Liberal Democrats. Obviously Obama is leading the former.

So, let me narrow down my question : What race is Milliband, if he isn't white?

Anonymous Al December 26, 2014 5:40 PM  

Miliband is a Jew. Unfortunately, he's also not Benjamin Disraeli.

Anonymous RussellJones December 26, 2014 5:42 PM  

So is Vox saying that he is an anti-white supremacist? Just thought I would ask before Thor Daddy showed up.

Anonymous VD December 26, 2014 5:42 PM  

What race is Milliband, if he isn't white?

He's a Jew. He's not English at all; his mother and father were Jews from Poland.

Anonymous Al December 26, 2014 5:44 PM  

Charles Kingsley, 1875 (1/3)

. . . let us give reins to imagination for a moment, and picture to ourselves a few social and political analogies in our own England of the nineteenth century.

An entire revolution has taken place in our principles, manners, and form of government. Parliaments, meetings, and all the ordinary expressions of the national will, are no longer in existence, A free press has shared their fate. There is no accredited organ of public opinion ; indeed there is no public opinion to record. Lords and Commons have been swept away, though a number of the richest old gentlemen in London meet daily at Westminster to receive orders from Buckingham Palace. But at the palace itself has broken out one of those sanguinary conspiracies which have of late become unceasing. The last heir of the house of Brunswick is lying dead with a dagger in his heart, and everything is in frightful confusion. The armed force of the capital are of course "masters of the situation," and the Guards, after a tumultuous meeting at Windsor or Knightsbridge, have sold the throne to Baron Rothschild, for a handsome donation of £25 a-piece. Lord Clyde, however, we may be sure, is not likely to stand this, and in a few months will be marching upon London at the head of the Indian Army. In the mean time the Channel Fleet has declared for its own commander, has seized upon Plymouth and Portsmouth, and intends to starve the metropolis by stopping the imports of " bread-stuffs " at the mouth of the Thames. And this has become quite possible ; for half the population of London, under the present state of things, subsist upon free distributions of corn dispensed by the occupant of the throne for the time being.

But a more fatal change than even this has come over the population of the capital and of the whole country. The free citizens and apprentices of London ; the sturdy labourers of Dorsetshire and the eastern counties; and the skilful artizans of Manchester, Sheffield and Birmingham; the mariners and shipwrights of Liverpool, have been long ago drafted into marching regiments, and have left their bones to bleach beneath Indian suns and Polar snows. Their place has been supplied by countless herds of negro slaves, who till the fields and crowd the workshops of our towns, to the entire exclusion of free labour ; for the free population, or rather the miserable relics of them, disdain all manual employment : they divide their time between starvation and a degrading debauchery, the means for which are sedulously provided by the government. The time-honoured institutions of the bull-bait, the cockpit, and the ring, are in daily operation, under the most distinguished patronage. Hyde Park has been converted into a gigantic arena, where criminals from Newgate " set-to " with the animals from the Zoological Gardens. Every fortnight there is a Derby Day, and the whole population pour into the Downs with frantic excitement, leaving the city to the slaves.

And then the moral condition of this immense mass ! Of the doings about the palace we should be sorry to speak. But the lady patronesses of Almack's still more assiduously patronize the prize-fights, and one of them has been seen within the ropes, in battle array, by the side of Sayers himself. No tongue may tell the orgies enacted, with the aid of French cooks, Italian singers, and foreign artists of all sorts, in the gilded saloons of Park Lane and Mayfair. Suflfice to say, that in them the worst passions of human nature have full swing, unmodified by any thought of human or divine restraints, and only dashed a little now and then by the apprehension that the slaves may rise, and make a clean sweep of the metropolis with fire and steel. But n'importe — Vive la bagatelle ! Mario has just been appointed prime minister, and has made a chorus singer from the Opera Duke of Middlesex and Governor-General of India.

Anonymous Al December 26, 2014 5:45 PM  

Charles Kingsley, 1875 (2/3)

All wise men and all good men despair of the state, but they are not permitted to say anything, much less to act. Mr. Disraeli lost his head a few days ago ; Lords Palmerston and Derby lie in the Tower under sentence of death ; Lord Brougham, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and Mr. Gladstone, opened their veins and died in a warm bath last week.

Foreign relations will make a still greater demand on the reader's imagination. We must conceive of England no longer as

" A precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive of a house."

but rather as open to the inroad of every foe whom her aggressive and colonizing genius has provoked. The red man of the West, the Caffre, the Sikh, and the Sepoy, Chinese braves, and fierce orientals of all sorts, are hovering on her frontiers in "numbers numberless," as the flakes of snow in the northern winter. They are not the impotent enemy which we know, but vigorous races, supplied from inexhaustible founts of population, and animated by an insatiate appetite for the gold and silver, purple and fine linen, rich meats and intoxicating drinks of our effete civilization. And we can no longer oppose them with those victorious legions which have fought and conquered in all regions of the world. The men of Waterloo and Inkermann are no more. We are compelled to recruit our armies from those very tribes before whose swords we are receding !

Doubtless the ordinary reader will believe this picture to be overcharged, drawn with manifest exaggeration, and somewhat questionable taste. Every single statement which it contains may be paralleled by the circumstances and events of the decadence of the Roman Empire. [...].

Mr. Sheppard should have added, to make the picture complete, that the Irish have just established popery across St. George's Channel, by the aid of re-immigrants from America; that Free Kirk and National Kirk are carrying on a sanguinary civil war in Scotland ; that the Devonshire Wesleyans have just sacked Exeter cathedral, and murdered the Bishop at the altar, while the Bishop of London, supported by the Jews and the rich churchmen (who are all mixed up in financial operations with Baron Rothschild) has just commanded all Dissenters to leave the metropolis within three days, under pain of death.

Anonymous Al December 26, 2014 5:45 PM  

Charles Kingsley, 1875 (3/3)

I must add yet one more feature to this fearful, but accurate picture, and say how, a few generations forward, an even uglier thing would be seen. The English aristocracy would have been absorbed by foreign adventurers. The grandchildren of these slaves and mercenaries would be holding the highest offices in the state and the army, naming themselves after the masters who had freed them, or disguising their barbarian names by English endings. The De Fung-Chowvilles would be Dukes, the Little-grizzly-bear-Joe-Smiths Earls, and the Fitz-Stanleysons, descended from a king of the gipsies who enlisted to avoid transportation, and in due time became Commander-in-Chief, would rule at Knowsley in place of the Earl of Derby, having inherited the same by the summary process of assassination. Beggars on horseback, only too literally; married, most of them, to Englishwomen of the highest rank ; but looking on England merely as a prey ; without patriotism, without principle ; they would destroy the old aristocracy by legal murders, grind the people, fight against their yet barbarian cousins outside, as long as they were in luck : but the moment the luck turned against them, would call in those barbarian cousins to help them, and invade England every ten years with heathen hordes, armed no more with tulwar and matchlock, but with Enfield rifle and Whitworth cannon.

And that, it must be agreed, would be about the last phase of the British empire. If you will look through the names which figure in the high places of the Roman empire, during the fourth and fifth centuries, you will see how few of them are really Roman. If you will try to investigate, not their genealogies — for they have none — not a grandfather among them — but the few facts of their lives which have come down to us ; you will see how that Nemesis had fallen on her which must at last fall on every nation which attempts to establish itself on slavery as a legal basis. Rome had become the slave of her own slaves.

Anonymous Musashi December 26, 2014 5:45 PM  

Whites need to learn there is no living with browns/blacks.

Blogger pyrrhus December 26, 2014 5:49 PM  

Indians are apparently smarter than Brits....hmmm

Anonymous Salt December 26, 2014 5:58 PM  

They make good servants.

Anonymous DMM December 26, 2014 5:58 PM  

From my understanding of the history of England, the peoples were always involved in warfare with each other, and they finally got smart and started hiring mercs from the mainland to fight for them. But eventually, they imported enough that the mercs decided that they'd just like to have the land for themselves. So they fought the original inhabitants back to the area known today as Wales.

So their importing of a new population is particularly stupid, as they have been down this road before.

Anonymous H2 December 26, 2014 6:02 PM  


That was a great read, with parallels to today. The section reading "open to the inroad of every foe whom her aggressive and colonizing genius has provoked. The red man of the West, the Caffre, the Sikh, and the Sepoy, Chinese braves, and fierce orientals of all sorts, are hovering on her frontiers in "numbers numberless," as the flakes of snow in the northern winter" definitely sounds like what Steve Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world."

Even this part is on topic for this post:
"The English aristocracy would have been absorbed by foreign adventurers. The grandchildren of these slaves and mercenaries would be holding the highest offices in the state and the army, naming themselves after the masters who had freed them, or disguising their barbarian names by English endings."

Anonymous CorkyAgain December 26, 2014 6:11 PM  

By the time the non-whites kick the white leaders out of the Labour and Democrat parties, the damage to the host country will already have been done -- and in the leftist mind, that's mission accomplished.

Anonymous Anubis December 26, 2014 6:25 PM  

The pakis are leaving Labor because Labor cant cover up gang raping of indigenous underage white girls anymore. With any luck there will not be any more British fathers arrested for trying to stop their daughters from being raped. I wonder if any leftist apologized to Nick Griffon the BNP leader for his arrest for only pointing out the rapes where happening? The damage may have been done to once great Britain but Enoch explained how to fix it, after all Hiroshima & Nagasaki recovered while Detroit will not.

Anonymous Mobutu December 26, 2014 6:32 PM  

--I keep saying hispanics won't keep taking orders from Northeast Liberals forever.

Nobody ever believes me.--

They basically ran all them negroes out of LA. An improvement!

Anonymous Anonymous December 26, 2014 6:39 PM  

The pakis are leaving Labor because Labor cant cover up gang raping of indigenous underage white girls anymore. With any luck there will not be any more British fathers arrested for trying to stop their daughters from being raped.

A view as dark as your handle, but I can't say that I find it inconceivable - especially if they start voting Conservative.

Blogger Unknown December 26, 2014 6:44 PM  

Nothing will make me as perversely happy as that sweet spot about ten years from now when every hippy, hipster, feminazi, stupid spoiled suburban SJW gets completely usurped and ignored in their own parties. It's already happening to an extent. It will be priceless when these clowns realize their "pets" could give two shits about them or their causes. It will amaze their feeble minds that to the NAM, they are just as white and evil as we conservatives/righties/reactionaries.

Except, they will find no allies among us when this realization occurs unless full embrace of reality is observed. This will be the so called "white party". It will be too late but there could be a period of dominance/apartheid that is quite cozy for about 25 years. Then it's kaput for whatever destruction new age is to come.

These "allies" of the left are always a loosely formed hodgepodge of idiots just waiting to tear itself up. There is no permanence on the left by definition so it should shock no one that friends become strange bedfellows become enemies.

For instance the Portland hipster has less in common blacks by far than a southern Republican does with blacks yet both are solid Ds for now. Blacks and Hispanics loathe gays, don't care about granola causes, and in general want harsher law and order (yes they do) even though they do not see the irony on a personal level. For instance, most blacks are for the death penalty and spanking kids, but see police issues as more of state sponsored racism.

If you take the more socialist (welfare) platform from the left (dems) what you would find is NAMs flocking to their more natural socially conservative stances. This is why in the sham that is democracy, it is amazing to me that a progressive, even populist party of values has not arisen to take voters from both the socially conservative right and left. Heck many whites are coming to the realization that the economy and tax rates don't matter if you lose the soul of a nation.

Blogger Unknown December 26, 2014 7:00 PM  

Just a quick follow up..I do not mean to de-emphasize the racial component to voting as it is huge. However, with all things equal, if blacks were offered the same "benfits" to vote with white churchgoers or hipster weirdo gays,you would most certainly not see 97% of them going D everytime. Heck if immigration was set up constitutionally to not change past a certain level and there was never any hope of amnesty, Hispanics would eventually vote 50/50 as well. Throw in the "equalization of welfare" as well as Hispanics would be solid Rs.

Now neither party is worth a dam, but the reason everyone is so pissed with each other is because no one is really getting anything that they want. Democracy is a headless beast with no real master.

Blogger Unknown December 26, 2014 7:02 PM  

"The damage may have been done to once great Britain but Enoch explained how to fix it, after all Hiroshima & Nagasaki recovered while Detroit will not."


Blogger  Trust Ted get misled. Gamma secret kings reddit December 26, 2014 7:06 PM  

Well then does it appear that the imports want a future not ran by the undead bankster elite?

Blogger  Trust Ted get misled. Gamma secret kings reddit December 26, 2014 7:08 PM  

Democracies, fallen humanity, the woman vote, the import vote...are never happy or fulfilled, more fall out to follow.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 26, 2014 7:09 PM  

Where has the vote gone?

However, it does seem like Labour will not be able to stitch together a coalition of minorities and disaffected.

Anonymous I see what you did there December 26, 2014 7:33 PM  

@ sykes.1 "The NAACP purged Whites and Jews a generation ago."

The jews can go fuck themselves. Diversity was their doing.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami December 26, 2014 7:33 PM  

"I keep saying hispanics won't keep taking orders from Northeast Liberals forever. "

How could they? They don't even spick the same language.

"The NAACP purged Whites and Jews a generation ago."

That was mighty unwhite of them.

Anonymous Discard December 26, 2014 7:40 PM  

So, if the Diverse are leaving the Labor Party, where are they going?

In the U.S., I think they'll just take over the Democrats. Most likely the GOP will accept the Demo refugees. They took the NeoCons in, didn't they?

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 26, 2014 7:59 PM  

Did you guys see Bath House Barry put out for over 1200 new man-dates in 15 days, including 2 of the most expensive EPA rules to date? $200 billion worth of man-dates, at least in the Chicago bathhouses he got screwed by old white guys for money. Forget an enemy attacking the power grid, Bath House Barry will make electricity unaffordable.

" We will make electricity so cheap that only the rich will burn candles " Thomas Edison
What did Zimbabwe use for lighting before candles? Electricity.

Anonymous White is a Color December 26, 2014 8:37 PM  

The NAACP purged Whites and Jews a generation ago.

I seriously doubt the founding money and ideology (Jewish) was purged from anything. What are all those lawyers last name, anyway. I'm sure the majority ethnic group is far and away the most represented, as they should be, right?

the damage to the host country will already have been done -- and in the leftist mind, that's mission accomplished.

It will not just be in their mind, at that point. It will be point of fact.

because Labor cant cover up gang raping of indigenous underage white girls anymore.

They are barely managing to cover up their own pedophile rapes and child sex rings.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 26, 2014 8:49 PM  

In 'Murka both parties live off the decay. In the UK the shat smelling Labor party aligns the feckless worthless scum of the white left with Sharia worshipping muslims, now there is a match made in hell, but lo and behold the conservatives in that country basically do nothing but legitimize that union of the damned.

Anonymous zen0 December 26, 2014 8:57 PM  

That article really doesn't explain much. The default narrative is feeble. The Indians as hindus are anti-muslim. (p0wer be unto them), and muslims and hindus are getting hip to the black disease. I think they are adrift right now. Hopefully, it will all coalesce into culturally motivated parties, and break up the political fiction of labour v. management Marxian socialist demogogery.

ie, if we are going to have a race war, lets be all civilized about it, shall we?

Anonymous Too Late December 26, 2014 9:01 PM  

What race is Milliband, if he isn't white?

He's a Jew. He's not English at all; his mother and father were Jews from Poland.

Ha! The utter astonishment by people who have yet to figure out what has happened and how and who dunnit, and why.
Because incredulous.

Anonymous Anonymous December 26, 2014 9:10 PM  

There seems to be a big difference in the attitude of Hindus and other ethnic minorities. This is possibly because Hindus have a history of conflict with Muslims and are suspicious of Labours pandering to Islam.


Anonymous zen0 December 26, 2014 9:14 PM  

> Because incredulous.

So why are the Goyim so powerless against this massive Jewish conspiracy?
Now we know that Black culture relegates them to the low end of the totem pole, because of their adherence to its dictates, and the "first nations" culture debilitates their adherents in making their way through what is it about Whitey's culture that makes Whitey kow-tow to the Jews?

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Now there is a long standing rule against quoting Shakespeare on this blog, but I think this merits an exception.

Blogger Whiskey December 26, 2014 9:15 PM  

Jews are certainly White Vox. More White than you, as a part American Indian. Miliband, that recently deceased Brit Marxist historian, might be Jews you do not like but arguably far more White than you if I understand your family background to be part Amerind/Mestizo.

Yeah I get it. You hate hate hate Jews. They're still White.

And you're late to the party. I've said this months ago. The JFK era Black dependence is over, Blacks are demanding to lead not follow. See my post on Bertha Lewis vs. Rahm. July 21.

Anonymous zen0 December 26, 2014 9:22 PM  

>Yeah I get it. You hate hate hate Jews. They're still White.

I think you just annihilated your credibility, Whiskey.
Might as well stick a fork in you. You're done.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) December 26, 2014 9:27 PM  

Whiskey, are you Jewish?

Blogger Matthew December 26, 2014 9:29 PM  

Whiskey claims to be Scots-Irish, IIRC.

Anonymous Angry December 26, 2014 9:32 PM  


The Jews undermine high-trust societies. They take advantage of the general level of fairness, trust and transparency that high-trust societies generate and undermine them from within with their ethnic nepotism. That is how Jews succeed so well, until the level of trust in society is so degenerate that the Jews are eventually removed from a society.

Anonymous cheddarman December 26, 2014 9:32 PM  

The article did not address where most of them are going, after leaving the labor party. About 16% of the "ethnics" voted conservative in the last elections

Are they forming indian/Pakistani/African parties?

Anonymous Rhys December 26, 2014 9:40 PM  

Tried to publish this at Alpha Game but couldn't:

"Vox you should analyze the Gor novels. Probably the only unapologetic alpha male writing fantasy. I've read some of the later novels and the first one. The first one is typical beta wandering around with no idea about women but surprised how happy slave women are. The later novels are kick ass alpha knowing how much women love being dominated and knowing how lack of D (in free women) drives them nuts. He manages to capture women's nature pretty well, such as their petty jealousies.

Larry Correia is not an alpha and it shows so hard in his writing. When Pitt, who is the biggest toughest bouncer in the club has trouble talking to a women that threw me out of the story. Actually, Pitt's character didn't really work because he was too much of a contradiction. Pitt is a reflection of Larry and he is likeable and most of his readers identify with him (since they're betas themselves). However, giving him the backstory of being raised to be a warrior and being hyper violent doesn't fit. I have worked as a bouncer and every tough bouncer I've met has never had a problem with talking to women as if they're a D&D virgin nerd. The story was so good that you can overlook the inconsistency but if you want to analyze lack of game in writing then this would be a good place.
Secondly, in Alpha there is a scene where Earl says he doesn't know what the half siren would see in him. Again, so cringeworthy that it breaks the flow of the novel. Earl is, at this time, about 70 years old but with a body in his 30s (someone correct me if I'm wrong). He has spent the last 50 years in the prime of his life doing awesome things and, in every other way, has unshakeable confidence in his skills but has never figured out women?

In defense of Howard, while he may have lived his life as a virgin, he knew women. It shows sometimes in his writing. In one story Valeria beats a slave girl long after a man would have stopped. How many men of whatever social rank recognize that women are far more cruel to other women than men are to women?

David Gemmell's novels lack the typical beta/gamma angst over women. It varies with the character but most men (and teenagers) are alpha and not afraid of women. Some of his heroes seem quaint by modern standards since they are often focused on marrying a woman to raise a family and the romance seems more natural rather than the contrived Hollywoodized version of romance where you have two people who practically hate each other falling in love. For a bonus there's a good exchange in Legend where one character tells another he has gained a woman's attention by not paying her attention. Game101.

Heinlein is a very interesting case study because he seems to capture some of the solipsistic nature of women, has some very alpha characters (Lazarus Long in particular) but also has a lost of male characters who are bewildered by women and need very forward and feisty redheads to take the lead. That may not be a reflection of Heinlein so much as it is him writing his preferred type of woman into all his stories. "

Anonymous zen0 December 26, 2014 9:45 PM  

Angry December 26, 2014 9:32 PM

The Jews undermine high-trust societies....

I am not disputing that claim. In fact, it was quite articulate. they are able to do that because they operate on a different paradigm.

No , the Jews in the diaspora are certainly not innocent, but one could just chastise them without seeking their annihilation. And they should be chastised. They should be constantly bombarded with the fact that they refuse to recognize their Messiah, without fear of politically correct policing.

Anonymous Angry December 26, 2014 9:50 PM  


Look, Jews are not the only problem and there are plenty of jews who can't stand the current situation. There isstill a massive Gentile population of Leftists that will be dealt the same way as any Leftist Jew.

Anonymous Rick Johnsmeyer December 26, 2014 10:01 PM  

There is a lot of talk and evidence for the GOP gradually becoming the white party in the US. The main problem with this fact is that the GOP didn't actually have to work for the white vote in order to inherit it by default, which means it will not need to change its existing positions or implement much of anything that could be described as a "pro-white" policy.

So for example if there is a GOP president in 2017, and he calls for another round of neocon wars in the Mideast, whites will be expected to jump up and down in support, because that's the diktat of the party. And if you're not for the white party... and on it goes.

For all the talk of a Democrat "plantation" involving the black vote, ethnic bloc voting in the US would mean the same thing for whites, at least in the medium-term. If the American Enterprise Institute decides that the white party needs to ground-invade Syria/Iran/etc., then that's how it will go, because there won't be a viable opposition to such things, as long as they are part of the stated mandate of the white party.

I don't look forward to that, but I suspect it's inevitable.

Blogger Hunsdon December 26, 2014 11:30 PM  

Oooh, Whiskey did the "hate hate hate" thing. He usually reserves that for how de white wimmins hate hate hate beta men.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 26, 2014 11:42 PM  

automatthew: "Whiskey claims to be Scots-Irish, IIRC."

Which has led to the trope of calling people "Scots-Irish" to indicate that they are Jewish, or mentioning typical "Scots-Irish" behavior that is actually typical Jewish behavior.

You can call a lion a horse, but it still won't be safe to ride.

Blogger Matthew December 26, 2014 11:45 PM  

For the want of a heel, a serpent wasn't crushed.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 26, 2014 11:54 PM  

Ah, but the current crop of leftists always believes they'll be retired before the bill comes due.

Retired as in "golfing in Florida" or retired as in Blade Runner.

FWIW, the Blade Runner version is a lot easier to arrange on short notice. Tee times being scarce an all..

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 27, 2014 12:19 AM  

Too Late: "Ha! The utter astonishment by people who have yet to figure out what has happened and how and who dunnit, and why.
Because incredulous."


Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 27, 2014 12:24 AM  

LP 999/Eliza: "Well then does it appear that the imports want a future not ran by the undead bankster elite?"

I don't think they understand that. They just want their own reps to cover up their own scandals, bestow their own patronage and vote for the free stuff for "the community".

Anonymous 11B December 27, 2014 1:08 AM  

In addition to eventually being replaced in leadership roles by their nonwhite mercenary voters, aren't the white Leftists also increasing the number of people who are immune to Cultural Marxism? I would imagine muslims would be the most resistant, and unlike Christians, will not tolerate a critical attack on their religion and culture. The Left is going to need a new dog whistle.

Anonymous Zionist December 27, 2014 3:05 AM  

Dammit, Whiskey, don't get so butt-hurt. It isn't that we hate Jews, we just don't trust your typical Luftmensch Galut Jew. As Ted Herzl, Arthur Ruppin, David ben Gurion and countless other Jews have noted, living in Exile--in Galut--corrupts Jewish minds and makes them less manly and more devious.

That is why Israel was founded and why all Jews should be encouraged to make aliyah. That is also why Sabras, healthy blut und boden Jews, are repelled by your typical Jerry Lewis/Seth Rogan/Jerry Seinfeld/Woody Allen Jew.

I love Israeli Jews. They kick butt. They are manly (as every JAP knows when she sees an Israeli male in uniform). The don't put up with sh!t. And they are not always making excuses and doing crap like forcing gentile kids across the USA and France and England to take Holocaust re-education classes every year.

Whiskey, make aliyah, for goodness sakes! You will think better of yourself and be a better, stronger man, You will lose the existential fear and feel no need to constantly chivvy gentiles to see things your way. Build you own people in your own land. Go home. Exterminate Amalek. We stand behind you.

You are a nice guy, Whiskey. You just need to do what has to be done. Grow a pair. Stop complaining about greedy JAPs. Make aliyah. Rejoin your people. It will do you a world of psychic good.

Anonymous Discard December 27, 2014 3:37 AM  

Angry said "Jews undermine high trust societies. They take advantage of the general level of fairness, trust and transparency…"
Exactly. Brief and articulate. May I add that Chinese, among others, do the same?

Anonymous Discard December 27, 2014 3:41 AM  

Zionist: I agree. If I were a Jew I'd want to live honestly among my own people. Just as I want to live honestly in America, among my own people instead of a bunch of aliens.

Anonymous VD December 27, 2014 4:45 AM  

Yeah I get it. You hate hate hate Jews.

You're lying. Retract or lose commenting privileges. You quite clearly don't get it. Criticism of your people is not "hate hate hate". There is no place for that sort of holocaustianity here. Jews are people and people are neither perfect nor perfectly innocent.

They're still White.

No, they're not. Genetically, they are an Arab-Italian mix, which means about one-quarter white. Obviously you haven't kept up on the science. And they're certainly not English.

And you're late to the party.

No, Whiskey, I'm not. I've been predicting this development for literally years, and noted that the 2012 election was the first indication of it.

Anonymous kh123 December 27, 2014 5:37 AM  

Scots-Irish. Ashkenaz.


This means...

I am Whiskey's love-child.

Anonymous kh123 December 27, 2014 5:38 AM  

Ben. Bennnnnn....

Why didn't you tell me?....

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 27, 2014 6:49 AM  

Frankly speaking Vox's answer to whiskey was the best I have ever read. The chickens from the culture of critique coop have flown home and are now shitting on the heads of self selected enlightened elite.

Speaking for myself, those who have spewed the anti-white rhetoric should pay and pay and pay for eternity.

Blogger Thordaddy December 27, 2014 6:56 AM  

But more importantly Whiskey, even if Jews were white, Jews qua Jews are anti-white Supremacists AND represent the premier ethnic self-annihilators. There is a reason Jews are called the "Chosen Ones" AND NOT Jewish Supremacists.

So in reality, there simply is no real distinction between the Jewish anti-white Supremacist and the "white" anti-white Supremacist.

Both should be hate, hate, hated with a living-saving passion.

Blogger Thordaddy December 27, 2014 6:58 AM  

^^^ Both should be hate, hate, hated with a [life]-saving passion.

Blogger Thordaddy December 27, 2014 7:04 AM  

The culpability of the Jewish collective is to be found in the propagation of their self-annihilating, objective Supremacy denying "natures." They are only on top when one fails to see the turd pile below. To give up one's free will in order to be unaccountable is the mark of the anti-Supremacist of any stripe. The Jewish collective has been "exemplary" in this fashion.

Anonymous WCU December 27, 2014 9:28 AM  

Thordaddy, you are insane. Your great learning is driving you mad!

Anonymous Anubis December 27, 2014 10:31 AM  

I don't think any 3rd worlder is going to change away from voting for more free stuff, they will only vote for more free stuff for their group. If evolution didn't majikly stop at the neck it wont happen generations later either. We have already seen this with blacks in the US over the summer when they found out how much was being spent on illegals. Its not that they are smart enough to know that whitey can only provide so much free stuff in totality they where envious of the better treatment.

Anonymous Idle Spectator December 27, 2014 12:06 PM  

Like I said a long time ago about Jooz...

Tear down whitey while looking like him!

Blogger Whiskey December 27, 2014 5:25 PM  

The Jews are White. Denying their Whiteness is hate hate hate -- its like saying the Italians are not White. Or Finns. Or Greeks. Jews don't look or act like say, Icelanders, but that does not mean they are not White.

And historically, identifying obviously White people as non-White is hand in hand with pretty oppressive actions against them: the Irish in their own homeland, Slavs as "untermenschen" not White, etc.

The HATE HATE HATE of different White peoples against each other is the fatal flaw of the West -- Greeks hate Germans for WWII, Hungarians hate Romanians and Fidez is promising to get rid of them; Bulgarians hate the Hungarian minority and the CP there is promising a similar purge.

Yeah, Ed Miliband is not English, any more than Stalin was Russian, Napoleon French, Sarkozy French, Hitler German (he was Austrian), etc. There is a good argument that Miliband is not really English and cannot identify or promote English values being essentially a foreigner. But he's a WHITE foreigner.

Yes Jews are descended from Italian men (White) and ME men (also White). Is Sophia Loren White? What about Marilyn Monroe. White does not mean an Aryan dream of Blue Eyes and Blonde Hair. Katarina Witt is White, so was Marcello Mastroianni. And Anita Ekberg. So too is say, Bashar Assad. I mean, just look at him. He's White. He doesn't look like, say Anwar Sadat. Heck Saddam Hussein was White. He didn't share Western cultural norms, but he was White. Look at his pictures.

You may or may not like all White peoples, cultures, but that does not make them not White.

Look at Ed Miliband. Are you seriously telling me that he's not White because he's Jewish? Explain to me how that is not HATE HATE HATE? The guy looks like he could be Nick Clegg's cousin.

Anonymous Sheila December 27, 2014 6:08 PM  

Oh for heaven's sake, Whiskey, I find it hard to believe you are really as phenomenally STUPID as your posts sound. People are not judged White/non-White based on skin color by those who know anything about HBD. Jews are related to White Europeans but are a distinct and separate cluster by haplotype. This is not opinion; it is fact. There is also a difference between White (as generally used to mean White European) and Caucasoid - i.e. Saddam Hussein or Bashar or some other Arabs and certain East European tribesmen (such as the Tsarnaevs) may be Caucasoid, but they are not White. Nor is someone like Kim Kardashian (I believe her mother White while her father was a Caucasoid).

Recognizing biological facts is not "hate hate hate." Nor does constantly repeating and capitalizing words emphasize their import - quite the opposite.

Crawl away and stop spewing your nonsense.

Blogger Whiskey December 27, 2014 6:18 PM  

The difference between myself and your readers is that I am uninterested in a blood guilt collective punishment of Jews for bad actions by a few prominent Jews, along with most of the native population elites. Tony Blair is more at fault than Miliband, and I'm not interested in punishing him either.

I care about SURVIVAL of the many White cultures and peoples. I think they are worth preserving and fighting for. But it has to be a big tent and inclusive to achieve survival.

I'd think you yourself, someone who was purged, because of identity alone, ought to understand that.

You were not kicked out of SFWA for anything you did. It was who you were -- a man who wrote about male stuff and was unapologetic about it, and lacked fame, Alpha rock star status (I'd never heard of you, and I read a lot of stuff including most everything of Tim Powers) to provide cover. Justin Bieber can sling the n-word along with John Mayer, they're pop stars with fawning female fans. You got kicked out for being a White man and not apologizing for being born with balls, but lacking the bigfoot status to get away with it. Pure and simple, no other reason.

After all, child rapists died members of the SFWA in good standing.

You tell me how defining Jews as non-Whites when you yourself are not "pure" White as being allied with "other" non-Whites is not straight out of the hate handbook?

Jews no more deserve criticism collectively than do Germans, or Greeks, or Hungarians, or the English. The average Englishman no more had any guilt for the exporting of food from Ireland during the famine than the average German had for Auschwitz. Indeed average people from both groups did things to try and stop it to no avail and considerable harm. [That doesn't mean in ethnic/racial conflict your identity and skin color is not your uniform.]

Personally I'd rather have Jerry Seinfeld on my side than an enemy, selective criticism of Jewish factions (Adelson, AIPAC, etc.) makes that possible, blood guilt collectivism insures the former.

If you want to say, or meant to say, "Ed Miliband as part of a Left-Jewish faction that includes the detestable Eric Hobsbawm is destroying England" I'm all in. I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment. It is arguably **true**. I'd include Sheldon Adelson as being as bad for America, on similar grounds. [Mass Third World immigration.]

I however read your statement as saying that Miliband was bad because as a Jew he was non-White and thus bent on destroying like all Jews, the West and England in particular. That's arguably false and hateful. Jerry Seinfeld does not hate either, to pick one example. And Seinfeld is perhaps the Whitest guy in America after Jay Leno. [Obsessed with cars, social niceties, etc.]

If you meant to refer to a Jewish-Left faction then I stand corrected.

I stand by my statement that collective guilt is hate hate hate. As being part of several persecuted nationalities: Irish (half), Scots (quarter), German (quarter) all subject to collective punishment and persecution, and as someone who wants pan-White interests and identity, I stand by that statement.

Blogger Thordaddy December 27, 2014 6:22 PM  


You're playing fast and loose with a social construction always under negotiation that nonetheless stands in as an irrelevant distraction aimed at prohibiting "us" from pointing the finger at the true culprit which is just plain anti-white Supremacist... That one is of Jewish or "white" racial orientation is of little concern. BOTH are self-annihilators selling self-annihilation to the white masses. The Jewish collective is only accountable to the extent that they bring their self-annihilating ethos EVERYWHERE THEY ROAM, but the "white" self-annihilator is accountable like a traitor in the family and his mimicking of the various self-anniihilating movements needs total exposure whether that mimicking be jew-centric, black-centric, jihad-centric, homo-centric, dyke-centric, migger-centric or all the above. That "white" self-annihilator needs an exorcism. But you... You need to go convert to a belief in objective Supremacy less you be accused of merely blowing smoke.

Blogger Whiskey December 27, 2014 6:30 PM  

So Sheila, Sophia Loren isn't White. Got it. Kim Kardashian isn't White. Got it. The Tsarnaevs are not White. Got it.

So part Mestizo VD is not White, then? Mark Sanchez? What about Eric Garcetti? What about Vladimir Putin? Or Berlusconi? What about Sicilians ... heck I saw Pulp Fiction. Jessica Alba? Sarah Michelle Gellar?

This is EXACTLY Why we always lose. They're ALL White. And we ought to have as big a tent as possible to draw even the Kardashian types in, certainly the Lorens and Sanchezs, otherwise even a Miliband or a Hobsbawm can defeat us.

We don't have time, money, people, energy, to act like Whites are anything but an incredibly shrinking, endangered, at risk global minority to engage in purity tests and kicking people out of the White tent like we're Casino Indians sitting on money machines rather than beleaguered settlers at Fort Apache.

Its people like you who argued theology at Constantinople while the Sultan brought out the big cannons to knock down the walls.

Bottom line we NEED (some) Jews on our side. They're smart. We don't have numbers. And yeah they're White.

Blogger Unknown December 27, 2014 7:39 PM  

Whiskey the Jew is blowing his wad! Have his pets let go of the leash? Oh, so sad, the games up before they destroyed the world. Poor Lucy he had such high hopes for the hook-nosed horrors.
We need the Jews! They're the smartest retards in the looney bin! If only they could face reality it would be rainbows and sugarplums bombed on Iran!
Whiskey needs to stop drinking. The game is over. The Dollar is dying and the banks are just printing toilet paper now.
Those non-white gutter trash don't see where the food comes from. They'd rather starve under Mugabe than eat under a Jew.
White people are honest. You can cheat them. However, you can't steal from thieves. Thieves have to steal, who are they stealing from?
Without White cooperation, this system has collapsed. Silly dummy you have no power. You stole it from the White man, but you're too stupid to figure out how it works!
The host can live without parasites, but parasites cannot live without a host. Can you live on the backs of non-whites? What do they have to begin with? They always end up with nothing. Do the Math!

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 27, 2014 9:17 PM  

Aggressive mimicry is very powerful.

But by default, aggressive mimicry targeted at whites doesn't help you with blacks, browns, yellows and reds.

There are ways that it could be made to work, but they all depend on raising the status and success of whites.

This isn't possible for Jews. They have too much "HATE, HATE, HATE!"

That's their problem. Nobody else is giving them a problem. They are giving themselves a problem, by reducing the status and success of the sub-species that they mimic so well, and that they exploit and aggress against with impunity.

If Jews were the stars of the story, there would be justice in that.

But, in white countries, historically built by whites, the real story is about the whites. And from the point of view of the fate of the whites, there is no justice in this.

Anonymous 11B December 28, 2014 12:43 AM  

Jews no more deserve criticism collectively than do Germans, or Greeks, or Hungarians, or the English.

You wrote a nice answer, but you yourself don't live by those values. I've seen plenty of your comments on iSteve where you attack Russians and seem to relish in their pain. I am sure you are getting off on their current fiscal crisis. You once wrote something suggesting that you wished both sides would lose in the current Russian-Ukraine conflict.

Practice what you preach.

Also, you want want to tell Jewish people they are white. I've seen a few who deny it. Do they hate, hate, hate Jews?

Anonymous Discard December 28, 2014 5:59 PM  

Whiskey: It's not the "…bad actions of a few prominent Jews" that piss me off, it's the bad actions of a whole lot of less-than-prominant Jews and the support that most other Jews typically have for those bad actions. I've been Jew-watching since the early 1980s, when I was mistakenly put on the politicians' Jew list. To this day, Jews overwhelmingly vote Multi-cult/anti-White. If we take them in, inside of a week they'd betray us, as has been demonstrated by the Neocon Con.

Jews deserve collective criticism as much as Blacks do. Jews are to nation-wrecking what Blacks are to street crime. The Jews who support the West wholeheartedly are as representative of their tribe as Thomas Sowell is representative of Blacks.

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 2:09 AM  

Like Bob says, you're gonnin' have to gotta serve somebody....

Sort of like Vox's better mouse, but it could be a mic.

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 2:41 AM  

Don't make me repeat myself...

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 3:07 AM  

3rd times a crime... but just who do you love???

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 3:20 AM  

Some should just be left alone...

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 3:32 AM  

We know its wrong... but what we will we do not do... so it goes...

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 3:47 AM  

Bad vs Good... it's your call...

Always need more cow bell!!
Oh geez... I got an itch...

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 3:56 AM  

Can't we all just get along???

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 4:03 AM  

What was the topic again??? Who really cares..

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 4:06 AM  

Now we are finally getting somewhere...

Blogger Bosefus December 29, 2014 4:56 AM  

Get hip to Easter... as it must have been led...

fire worlds that you uncover that gypsies you uh...

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