Thursday, April 30, 2015

The decline and fall of Richard Carrier

From New Atheist-in-waiting to cautionary tale in a few short years. I remember when people used to tell me that perhaps Dawkins and Harris and Hitchens were pushovers, but this Carrier guy... or not so much.
Nothing says "Alpha Male" like begging for polyamorous-friendly dates over the Internet:

So, this is experimental. I’d like to go on a date in May. And for the first time, I’m going to try a bat signal: putting a call out on my blog. I don’t know anyone else who has tried doing that, so I have no precedent to work from as to etiquette or even arguments for or against doing it. So I’m just going to do it and see what happens and document and assess. If you know anyone who might have an interest in dating me, let them know. If you might have an interest, read on.

I’ll start by making sure anyone considering this is up to speed. I am polyamorous. I currently have many girlfriends. All I consider my friends. Some are just occasional lovers. Some I am more involved with. They are also polyamorous, or near enough (not all of them identify that way, but all of them enjoy open relationships). And I will always have relationships with them, as long as they’ll have me in their life.
Read the rest of Richard Carrier's exciting experiment in post-marital dating at Alpha Game.



Anonymous Alexander April 30, 2015 3:52 PM  

If you were possibly interested on being one of my tertiary sexual relationships, my love.

Anonymous dw April 30, 2015 3:54 PM  

"Now that God doesnt exist we can all have that multiethnic omnisexual panspecies orgy we at DawkCon have been waiting for!"

Blogger Daniel April 30, 2015 3:55 PM  

Read the rest of Richard Carrier's exciting experiment in post-marital dating...

Um, no. I have standards.

And a hooker in my crawlspace who really needs some attention.

Anonymous hausfrau April 30, 2015 4:00 PM  

I'm telling you guys this freak radiates Ira Einhorn weirdness....First date to visit the Dead Sea scrolls....secand date tot the Aerospace Museum ...third date a review of his collection of retired sex workers in steamer trunks.....

Blogger GeronL April 30, 2015 4:01 PM  

So... he is looking for a girl or a boy?

and one that doesn't need an air pump?

Anonymous Toddy Cat April 30, 2015 4:05 PM  

Carrier's decline has been meteoric. I can remember when this guy, despite his dogmatic atheism, was a fairly well respected expert on ancient technology, who would occasionally write somewhat complimentary things about Christians on his blog. In a few short years, he's gone from that to trying to prove that Jesus didn't exist, dumping his wife, and becoming the voice of the new SJW totalitarian atheism. Never mind theists; I'd be willing to bet that Robert Ingersoll would be shaking his head over this guy.

Anonymous roo_ster April 30, 2015 4:12 PM  

My Skeeve-O-Meter is in the red zone after reading that.

Blogger Salt April 30, 2015 4:21 PM  

Anyone who answers his ad need be mindful as he's definately a Carrier of something.


Blogger Unknown April 30, 2015 4:38 PM  

Carrier: My lovers are all polyamorous!
Me: You mean whores?
Carrier: No.
Me: Do you buy them dinner? Do they have sex with other men who buy them dinner?
Carrier: Yes.
Me: Name applies.

Anonymous Steve April 30, 2015 4:48 PM  

How come poly's are always
ugly dweebs?

Blogger Unknown April 30, 2015 4:50 PM  

'cause Poly wants a Cracker?

Anonymous trk April 30, 2015 4:52 PM  

After reading his post he sounds more like dr evil in his monolauge about "his mom was a Belgian prostitute named Chloe....luge lessons...etc.."

Anonymous Steve April 30, 2015 4:52 PM  

Doulos - no need to insult whores. They're just working girls.

Polydweebs are too ugly to make a living as whores. There's also a weird feminist / male submissive / cuckold fetish angle to that lifestyle. It's basically the opposite of polygamy.

Blogger Unknown April 30, 2015 5:00 PM  

Wasn't an insult, just telling the truth...

Clarity in a name is all I am asking. I have seen some ugly ones as well. No accounting for taste. Later. Out.

Blogger Yohami April 30, 2015 5:18 PM  

This guy is omega. Somebody send him dick pics.

Blogger Nate April 30, 2015 5:22 PM  

Dude.... is draft day... why are we talking about some idiot atheist soap opera?


Anonymous Gecko April 30, 2015 5:26 PM  

"I am...

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Anonymous Susan April 30, 2015 5:37 PM  


Totally agree about the Ira Einhorn vibe. The skeevometer definitely went off the charts with this guy.

Blogger Underwater Operative April 30, 2015 5:41 PM  

And Nate is hoping Tampa will pass over Winston in the off chance the Titans are able to pick him up!

Anonymous rienzi April 30, 2015 5:48 PM  

So: A) He says he gets lots of casual sex.
B) He feels it necessary to advertise for dates on the internet.


Those for whom A is correct wouldn't ever think of doing B.
What an Omega loser.

Anonymous Geoff April 30, 2015 5:52 PM  

Nate, I just hope that this year's Draft isn't a let down after last year. Watching Johnny Football fall down the list was one of the most compelling things I've ever seen.

Or maybe I just need to get out more. I'm not sure.

Blogger Nate April 30, 2015 6:09 PM  

Seeing Johnny fall was awesome. This is a very compelling draft though because the Titans could do literally anything.

I just hope like hell they trade down. I don't want either of the two top QBs. we need D. We need a WR.

Blogger Underwater Operative April 30, 2015 6:10 PM  

Yep. You'd be better off to leave Mario Cart alone.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 April 30, 2015 6:13 PM  

Watching Johnny Football fall down the list was one of the most compelling things I've ever seen.

I disagree.
That was nothing compared to watching Brady Quinn fall, and fall, and fall, until it was just him and a half-eaten ham sandwich left in the green room.

Blogger Nate April 30, 2015 6:14 PM  

hehehehe yeah that was awesome too... but seeing JFF go to cleveland... and you just knew it would be the total trainwreck it has been. No way I would've taken JFF before the 4th round.

Everyone said I was crazy for saying that last year... but look at him. Total wasted pick.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 April 30, 2015 6:19 PM  

If the Titans don't trade the pick or take Mariota themselves, he slips out of the top 10 entirely unless the Eagles can figure something out to get him.
This is a great year if your team needs D help and hasn't traded away a lot of second and third round picks.
Anyone else think its insane that Leonard Williams is considered the best defensive tackle in the draft?

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 April 30, 2015 6:21 PM  

Total wasted pick.

Yeah, there's going to be a lot more of that this year.
Part of the problem is that the NCAA just doesn't make nearly as many NFL-ready QBs anymore.

Blogger RobertT April 30, 2015 6:24 PM  

How come poly's are always ugly dweebs?

You forgot .... middle aged

Anonymous Geoff April 30, 2015 7:07 PM  

Huck, nice one. I forgot about Brady Quinn! Unlike Manziel, he even looked the part. Total package. What a disappointment.

Blogger JimH April 30, 2015 7:17 PM  

This is too good to be true!

Mike Flynn had a glorious takedown of his attempt to cast Hypatia as the Roman Galileo, here:

The best take-away line: 'My first impression on seeing the title, 'Free Thinker' was, you get what you paid for.'

Blogger Seneca April 30, 2015 7:28 PM  

I'm thinking he doesn't ask permission before he hugs you. Ah, the smell of rape culture in the air. Just the thought, I need a safe place with warm cookies and milk.

Anonymous hausfrau April 30, 2015 8:48 PM  

"How come poly's are always ugly dweebs?

You forgot .... middle aged"

Handsome young men don't need a terminology for getting lots of cootch from lots of different women. They just do it. It's men that have to try hard, like really work at it, that turn it into some kind of condition with it's own sciencey sounding name to mask the desperation.

Blogger gamma secret kings reddit April 30, 2015 9:09 PM  

Lucky ex wife to have been set free from Carrier!

Blogger gamma secret kings reddit April 30, 2015 9:23 PM  

Speaking of Ira Einhorn, he was co-founder of...a boomer worship day; Earth Day. Right?

Anonymous Anonymous April 30, 2015 9:28 PM  

I think one of Carrier's unstated fetishes might be "Winnie" from The Wonder Years.

Isn't he kind of objectifying her? I thought that was a sin in the religion of Atheism+?

Anyway it's not nearly as funny as his public date solicitation, just more minor proof of his gammatude.

Anonymous Anonymous April 30, 2015 9:40 PM  

How come poly's are always ugly dweebs?

Because the poly women are all either ugly fatties or completely gross in some other way.

When I first discovered Game, I did some slumming I'm not proud of before I got a handle on how well it worked. I didn't get as far down that road as the poly thing, but I did get a couple invitations. It's an ugly scene. And as someone said, the men tend to be effeminate. I'd guess most of them have homo fantasies they're hoping to get a chance to try in the heat of the moment. Others may just be hoping it'll give them a chance at sex with a woman less repulsive than their wives.

Blogger kh123 May 01, 2015 4:00 AM  

"Speaking of Ira Einhorn, he was co-founder of...a boomer worship day; Earth Day. Right?"

He was also apparently fond of playing the literary violin over the Holocaust, if I remember correctly. Poetically cry over Ashkenazim, but stuff your girlfriend into a box.

The degree that liberal croc tears contrast with how these folks go through life - or the lam as it were - is, well, not surprising. But disturbing all the same.

Blogger dc.sunsets May 01, 2015 10:07 AM  

Common sense informs me that engaging in casual sex breaks the bond between physical intimacy and emotional intimacy.

In a secular view, human females are rare in the animal kingdom in their receptiveness to sex regardless of the timing of their reproductive cycle. This receptivity is plausibly explained by the long maturation process of children, thus the benefit of keeping dad around for protection and resources. Sex, in this way, increases the bond the mother and father share (emotional intimacy) and binds the family together, increasing its strength and partnership to face a hostile world.

People who practice casual sex divorce physical from emotional intimacy. I suggest that habituating to this is unlikely to be undone once one decides to "settle down" and have a family, and if it doesn't contribute to broken families I'd be shocked.

Lysander Spooner defined a vice as an action that is self-harming, but taken in the belief it will result in greater personal happiness. Gambling, alcoholism and drug abuse, porn and casual sex all fit this definition to a "T." Properly accounting the costs & benefits, indulging in vices makes people less happy, and those who persist in them are self-destructive at best, fools more likely.

Anonymous Didas Kalos May 01, 2015 3:22 PM  


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