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Monday, November 16, 2015

A tale of two protests

57 Comments:

Blogger JACIII November 16, 2015 5:14 AM  

There you go, directing the spotlight away from the real problems at #mizzou.

Wait for an aerial shot of the Hebdo demonstration represented by media as a muslim protest against the Paris bombings. If it hasn't happened yet it's only because no right thinking journalist has thought to do it.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 16, 2015 5:37 AM  

Where did Tommy get a French flag?

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 16, 2015 6:10 AM  

Before you poke the sleeping bear, make sure you can handle the awakened bear. If they keep poking Europe they'll get a surprise. The post WWI depression and self blaming will break in a wave or rage and destruction that will make the Roman Empire campaigns seem like a walk in the park. And by that I mean Central Park With Zombies. You heard it here first.

--Sarah Hoyt

Blogger ZhukovG November 16, 2015 6:17 AM  

Ah Islam. A faith so simple it can be explained in two pictures.

Blogger JP November 16, 2015 6:26 AM  

Ah Islam. A faith so simple it can be explained in two pictures.

Actually, there is a single picture floating around the intertubes of a muslim protester holding a sign that says "Behead all those who say Islam is violent".

Blogger Phillip George November 16, 2015 6:38 AM  

As a Christian there is a certain tension in trying to calmly love the mother fuckers and hate everything they believe in. But there is an honesty in their open contempt for the West. It's the hidden self loathing of the liberal backslidden churchians that really upsets for this is where I reckon the betrayal is, of King and Countrymen, but, worse the betrayal of their own faith. Who and what Jesus is and did.

Aurelie Chatelian was a mother so I suggest the epithet to bullet riddled body is appropriate. If words offend you more than flying bullets I don't want to know you.

Anonymous DT November 16, 2015 6:43 AM  

@6 As a Christian there is a certain tension in trying to calmly love the mother fuckers and hate everything they believe in.

That's probably because you're not supposed to love those who openly, willfully, and repeatedly embrace evil.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 16, 2015 6:55 AM  

So, how can we use this in the US to, at least, stop quote un quote, 'illegal' immigration, if not immigration completely?

In other words, how do we use what's happening with the Hadjis in Europe to our advantage to stop the Wetbacks in America Norte?

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 16, 2015 6:57 AM  

@7

Wrong. You're just not supposed to let it stop you from stopping them for their evil by whatever means are necessary... or effective.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 16, 2015 6:57 AM  

VD,

Come on. There's a lot of missing context there.

Do you believe an organized Muslim protest after Paris wouldn't at least partially fear being attacked? Or fear that it might simply be inappropriate?

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 16, 2015 6:59 AM  

There you go, directing the spotlight away from the real problems at #mizzou.

This is what has me the most offended.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 16, 2015 7:12 AM  

"Do you believe an organized Muslim protest after Paris wouldn't at least partially fear being attacked? Or fear that it might simply be inappropriate?"

Fuck yeah those Sand Niggers better be afraid, though implying that they'd think it'd be inappropriate considering their willingness to bring France into the dar-al islam is a really stupid question.

Blogger VD November 16, 2015 7:19 AM  

Come on. There's a lot of missing context there.

The train is fine.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 16, 2015 7:36 AM  

VD

The train is fine.

#tracklivesmatter

Blogger The Kurgan November 16, 2015 7:48 AM  

Ummmm. Actually given that in Islam the shoe is "dirty" and the fact that he's standing on the flag I am not sure that is s much a "protest" against the attacks as an endorsement of them. In public.

Blogger VD November 16, 2015 7:51 AM  

Actually given that in Islam the shoe is "dirty" and the fact that he's standing on the flag I am not sure that is s much a "protest" against the attacks as an endorsement of them.

Il treno sta bene, amico. Sta molto bene.

Blogger Billy November 16, 2015 7:59 AM  

@NorthernHamlet I don't think the muslims have any reason to fear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrDQ6aSPIk

Blogger Robert Coble November 16, 2015 8:04 AM  

"The train is fine" has to be one of the funniest things you've ever written in the given context. I'm still laughing this morning after waking, and I first read the post when I got home from work at midnight. What's even funnier is the number of people who keep posting without bothering to find out or figure out the point of that statement within the context.

Saluto!

Blogger Phillip George November 16, 2015 8:12 AM  

Jihadi's funded by Jew's thrown under a bus driven by a Russian. There's some limited comfort there.
thanks 7 and 9. due process needs a jury, and what are peers for if not jury duty?

Jethro Tull's take on train wrecks that must happen:

I don't think Europe will get a better anthem now than this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWubhw8SoBE

Anonymous jon November 16, 2015 8:13 AM  

"I don't think the muslims have any reason to fear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrDQ6aSPIk"

Don't you know, if there is a backlash, they've won (never mind that not stopping the ongoing "frontlash" will also lead to them winning).

That's one of the more depressing videos I've seen recently. Just days after the attack, and French citizens are cheering the arrest of their own.

Anonymous The Dude November 16, 2015 8:25 AM  

@15:

Of COURSE stepping on the French flag was intended to be the grossest insult possible to the French nation!

So go stencil the cartoon head of Mohammed on the ground right in the doorway of Grand Central Station where 100,000 people will walk on him in morning rush hour alone. Record a YouTube video. Post it to LiveLeak.com.

Just imagine. One hundred thousand infidels stomping Mohammed's face in a single morning. TWO can play that game.

Look. We know that there is going to be an explosion. We know it is coming soon. Why let the pot slowly get hotter? Crank up the heat right now, the sooner the better.

Blogger VD November 16, 2015 8:46 AM  

Look. We know that there is going to be an explosion. We know it is coming soon. Why let the pot slowly get hotter? Crank up the heat right now, the sooner the better.

Why are you talking about it here? Why haven't you simply done it? And why should anyone else do what you are not willing to do yourself?

Blogger Stingray November 16, 2015 9:02 AM  

Here is a very good political cartoon regarding all of this.

Blogger MendoScot November 16, 2015 9:05 AM  

And speaking of <a href="https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/665561747500040192/photo/1”>cartoons</a>, “Crybullies” banned from facebook.

Anonymous kfg November 16, 2015 9:14 AM  

She's mighty tall and handsome,
well know by one and all.
She's the mighty combination,
on the Wabash Cannonball.

The engineer's name is Charon. Start saving your pennies.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 16, 2015 9:54 AM  

Obama is yappin on the radio, but all I can think is
Bacon, Lettuce, Mayo, it matters

Blogger Were-Puppy November 16, 2015 9:55 AM  

@15 The Kurgan
Ummmm. Actually given that in Islam the shoe is "dirty" and the fact that he's standing on the flag I am not sure that is s much a "protest" against the attacks as an endorsement of them. In public.
---

I thought he was stomping the wrinkles out so he can wear it on his head.

Blogger Shimshon November 16, 2015 10:01 AM  

I saw a recent repost of an article Moshe Feiglin had written shortly after 9/11 (I remember reading it then too). He was in New York at the time it happened.

The day after the attack, a wealthy American acquaintance approached me and asked for my comments on the situation. I told him what I thought, and he then surprised me with an interesting offer: “I am willing to pay for a full-page ad in the New York Times. I want you to compose the ad,” he said. I didn’t want to do it, because America’s war isn’t my war, and because I had hoped that this dear Jew would direct his financial resources to far more important endeavors in Israel. But the man persisted, so I composed the following quick draft:

IT IS A CULTURAL/RELIGIOUS WAR.

We can kill a million Bin Ladens, but they will continue to celebrate.

[Photo of Arabs celebrating in the streets]

They have destroyed our symbols.

[Photo of the twin towers going up in flames]

We must destroy their symbols.

[Photos of the al-Aqsa mosque on the Temple Mount, and the Kaaba building in Mecca]

Shocked?

Americans don’t do such things?

Right.

Therefore, America will continue to be destroyed until we understand.

My friend was astonished. “But they will start a religious war!” he exclaimed. “Can you imagine what acts of vengeance will result from this?”

“And what have you suffered just now?” I asked him. “Do you think that they only killed nearly ten thousand people because at the moment they don’t hate you so much”?

Kinda cuts right to the rhetorical chase, I think.

http://www.jewishisrael.org/america-already-lost/

Blogger Were-Puppy November 16, 2015 10:02 AM  

@18 Robert Coble
"The train is fine" has to be one of the funniest things you've ever written in the given context. I'm still laughing this morning after waking, and I first read the post when I got home from work at midnight. What's even funnier is the number of people who keep posting without bothering to find out or figure out the point of that statement within the context.
---

I'm no expert on this, but it seems the context of a rhetoric is largely in the mind of the beholder? The fine kernels of truth in it are like inside jokes for the rest of us to chuckle over?

Blogger rumpole5 November 16, 2015 10:03 AM  

All I can say is: thank God for American rednecks, hillbillies, pickup trucks, gun racks, country music, the Confederate battle flag... And the Republic of Texas!

Blogger dc.sunsets November 16, 2015 10:09 AM  

@22

Victor Hugo wrote that armies cannot stop an idea whose time has come; the converse is also true-- nothing can force an idea whose time has yet to come. Mises irrefutably proved in 1922 that socialist calculation was impossible, dooming the recently-birthed USSR. Anyone who acted on this axiom during the next 67 years, an adult's lifetime, doomed himself.

Timing is everything.

Each of us changes our own mind and nothing more. Once the cloud around us coalesces and condenses, only then will the flash flood begin.

We'll know the "when" has arrived when we see the investment markets signal that this period of social mood manic optimism is too dead to reanimate.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 16, 2015 10:10 AM  

Anybody else seen this?

Mosque burned down

Anonymous kfg November 16, 2015 10:12 AM  

Texas needs more grass.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 16, 2015 10:12 AM  

I've anecdotal proof Obama is a female. He's been on my radio going on and on for about 2 hours, and I haven't heard a word he's said :P

Blogger Miguel D'Anconia November 16, 2015 10:24 AM  

It's sad that the people of Paris didn't set the moslem ghettos on fire and let them burn to the ground. Drive them out like rats.

How much you wanna bet the governments of the west won't defend their nations and people by ejecting the invaders and denying them entry? There's no need to hunt moslem terrorists in you country if you don't let them in to begin with.

Blogger The Kurgan November 16, 2015 10:25 AM  

"Il treno sta bene"
Mi hai fatto ridere a voce alta.

Anonymous Soga November 16, 2015 11:06 AM  

Going by what the Washington Post reported, the FBI is"investigating threats made to Muslims".

So in other words, to answer your question Miguel, no, our governments are just going to double down on the stupid.

When the FBI starts turning a blind eye to Western immune system responses and start investigating Muslims instead, that'll be when they actually start working for their own people.

Anonymous Further Info November 16, 2015 11:39 AM  

@28 Shimshon

(I saw a recent repost of an article Moshe Feiglin had written shortly after 9/11 (I remember reading it then too). He was in New York at the time it happened.)

The whole thing is worth a read:

Its all Israel's fault

Blogger haus frau November 16, 2015 12:09 PM  

@6 As a Christian there is a certain tension in trying to calmly love the mother fuckers and hate everything they believe in.

That's probably because you're not supposed to love those who openly, willfully, and repeatedly embrace evil.

Loving your enemy under the circumstances mean praying for their conversion to Christianity. I pray they would all have a road to Damascus experience like St. Paul.

Blogger Culture War Draftee November 16, 2015 12:15 PM  

@33 Austin has plenty of grass. It's a real boon to sales when the kids are trying to sell Girl Scout cookies.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 16, 2015 12:28 PM  

Great Cucks on fire, Paris police crack down on anti islam protesters. A moslem even spits on a white being arrested at 4:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5xHCa3PkU#t=240

Anonymous kfg November 16, 2015 12:28 PM  

"Austin has plenty of grass."

I don't think I'd want a lot of rifles behind that grass, but I do hope that at least some of those guitar cases have more than guitars in them.

Anonymous Hobbit with a Rock November 16, 2015 12:40 PM  

#30 rumpole 5

"All I can say is: thank God for American rednecks, hillbillies, pickup trucks, gun racks, country music, the Confederate battle flag... And the Republic of Texas!"
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As a fourth-generation native Texan (my boys are fifth), I heartily agree.

I'm a 10-year Vox daily reader and rare commenter--and then under a different name years ago when Vox and Spacebunny gave me valuable input on homeschooling my youngest son, now 18. I know most of the Ilk--and even some trolls--well by screen names. I can't tell you folks how much I've learned, about so many things, through you all--and have passed on to my sons. Many thanks!

Blogger Matamoros November 16, 2015 12:45 PM  

@6 As a Christian there is a certain tension in trying to calmly love the mother fuckers and hate everything they believe in.

What tension. It is only private enemies we are to turn the other cheek for.

We are told to hate the enemies of God with a passion.

Blogger kh123 November 16, 2015 1:23 PM  

"Hey racist assholes exploiting an atrocity: Refugees from Syria, etc. are looking to *escape* this sort of violence, not to spread it."

Sure thing, Saladin Ahmed. And the Tsarnaev's were misunderstood culinary students.

Blogger CarpeOro November 16, 2015 1:39 PM  

From the weekend, the line that got me the most was from the French president - saying that the people needed to depend on the government for protection. Couple that with the suppression of the anti-muslim protests that pretty much says it all. The French people are sheep to be shorn and savaged by the wolves that have been planted in their midst by their supposed protectors. If there is any spirit left in France they need to make it clear they intend to protect themselves and their families. But that is up to them and no one else. They need to reconnect to the spirit of Charles Martel.

Blogger Student in Blue November 16, 2015 1:49 PM  

@dc.sunsets
We'll know the "when" has arrived when we see the investment markets signal that this period of social mood manic optimism is too dead to reanimate.

Hm. Hadn't thought of investment markets as a gauge of social mood, rather just a gambling den.

Is it still useful as a gauge when there's a bunch of rigging going on, however? DC and the Fed pretty much believe that if you manage the stock market, you manage the mood of the American people, which is completely missing the point.

Blogger OneWingedShark November 16, 2015 2:01 PM  

@6 As a Christian there is a certain tension in trying to calmly love the mother fuckers and hate everything they believe in.

@7 That's probably because you're not supposed to love those who openly, willfully, and repeatedly embrace evil.

I don't think that's quite true; because if it was then before Christ's work, being enslaved to sin, he would have hated humanity because (due to aforementioned enslavement) we were openly, willfully, embracing evil -- that is our sin-nature -- and therefore, because of that hatred, not provided a way out of that enslavement by his very death.

And, as the goal of the Christian is to be Christ-like, we cannot point to Jesus's work and say "because you are evil I have no obligation to [in concert with God's Holy Spirit] try to save you." It simply isn't there in any of Jesus's actions.

@39 Loving your enemy under the circumstances mean praying for their conversion to Christianity. I pray they would all have a road to Damascus experience like St. Paul.

You are absolutely correct; and the Holy Spirit is working in the Middle East... and, somewhat ironically, the Muslims will get what they want, submission to God, when they kneel at the Great Throne of Judgement and confess that Jesus is the Christ -- but it would be far better that they did so willingly, in jubilant gratitude for God's Mercy (i.e. as Christians), than as those who are already condemned, acknowledging that God is Just.

The most Christian strategy for dealing with Islam is this: to send wave after wave of missionaries. They will be killed (but some might be saved) and trust that, at the end, the blood that was shed will be taken into account by God himself.

Revelation 6:9-11
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.

Blogger OneWingedShark November 16, 2015 2:06 PM  

@46 From the weekend, the line that got me the most was from the French president - saying that the people needed to depend on the government for protection. Couple that with the suppression of the anti-muslim protests that pretty much says it all. The French people are sheep to be shorn and savaged by the wolves that have been planted in their midst by their supposed protectors

This is not any different from how American politicians treat Americans: sacrifices to illegal immigrants, to distant wars, to shore up oppressive ideologies, and as convenient sources of money. You are being farmed, ranched, and that means that there are times when a few will be taken to provide food for the ravening wolves while the majority provide creature comforts for the ranchers.

Blogger CarpeOro November 16, 2015 2:25 PM  

@49
True, the difference being that there are at least some areas where Americans can go armed and have protected themselves. France simply appears to be further down the road of disarming the citizenry.

Blogger Danby November 16, 2015 2:52 PM  

French president - saying that the people needed to depend on the government for protection.

Perhaps that is a reaction to what should be and is probably happening, the people arming themselves against wanton mayhem. It's obvious now that le Sûreté doesn't provide any.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper November 16, 2015 3:17 PM  

OWS, yes The elite whose wealth depends on stability and exploitation are terrified of disorder and of the inevitably sort of post war calls for justice they'll face.

The Specter of fictional Madame Defarge weighs heavily on the French Mind

Imagine you were one of these people and a civil war broke out , you have nowhere to hide,

The rebels want you dead for treason and the savages want you dead for not believing their whatever the hell you wan't to call what the believe.

They have to stop the protests since the war is far scarier to them than they somewhat contained disorder.

That said, the French have had a bellyful of war, I can't blame them for not wanting another one,

It would probably be good for them as much as war can be a good thing but its a lot of death and suffering and reprisals to stomach.

That said, Europe is going from zero to jackboots as fast as might be expected for someone in their situation. Europe is not lost by any means and remember if the bad guys can get guns pretty easily, so can the good guys.

More importantly, when hey get them, unlike American's, they won't serve is a symbol of safety and liberty . They'll be put right to bloody use.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 16, 2015 3:36 PM  

Is it still useful as a gauge when there's a bunch of rigging going on, however? DC and the Fed pretty much believe that if you manage the stock market, you manage the mood of the American people, which is completely missing the point.

Depends on which you believe is the chicken and which is the egg. Given that manipulating public opinion has been important since...well...before time, if such manipulation actually worked consistently we'd still be speaking Greek, or Phoenician, or Latin....

Outside events (and scheming groups of powerful people) don't seem to have any lasting effect on stocks, as a barometer of shared mood. If they did, we'd be in a permanent bull market and political change would literally never occur.

The USA has been in a delusional boom since silver was removed from coins 50 years ago. The debt-boom followed, and the credit mania is layered on top of that. It is easy to connect the dots between today's left-collectivist lunacies (transgender BS, open-borders idiocy, blank-slate ignorance of human biodiversity, etc.) and the elimination of rational valuation measures on Wall Street (my fav: "beating the analysts' estimates" is somehow relevant to stock valuation when by definition a firm could report simply losing a penny less than the estimate, so the stock takes off....)

Watch. As long as stocks are here in the stratosphere and the unprecedentedly monstrous ocean of bonds (IOU's) is priced to yield almost nothing, the collective stupidity will will be like the Energizer Bunny.

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/historical/marketindexes.html
The DJIA chart is logarithmic but imagine if it was arithmetic. It gives you some idea how much of our current world is built on nothing but 50 years of debasing money in favor of filling an ocean of IOU's, a process that would be impossible if the dollar was consistently compared to a fixed commodity standard (which is why that was terminated; people wanted to party and didn't want anyone telling them it was a bad idea.)

But, oooooohhhhhh how we can take a simple guess at what it will be like when this party finally ends (after 50 years of increasingly insane policies) and the hangover for a five decade coke/meth/weed/opium/aderall party settles over the land.

People are going to discover new, previously unknown levels of rage.

Blogger Geir Balderson November 16, 2015 3:45 PM  

@32
Yeah, i saw it and then commented on the local Canadian paper that what happened in France would be coming to Canada. I then said the Muslims were not compatible with Canadian culture and should be sent back to where they came from.

Oh, my did the SJWs jump on my comments!!! And the comment was trashed so quickly! I was not threatening, just stating facts. Obviously, the Canucks don't want to hear truth, so let them be attacked!

Blogger haus frau November 16, 2015 4:27 PM  

@54 Oh, my did the SJWs jump on my comments!!! And the comment was trashed so quickly!

Pointing out the voting habits and socialist open-borders activism of Western Jews on Breitbart gets pretty much the same response. Entertaining to watch though. They have been cursed with binary thinking and don't comprehend that you can have principled objections to something without "hating" the thing. Also, pattern recognition makes you a genocidal racist bigot Nazi.
"Obviously, the Canucks don't want to hear truth, so let them be attacked! "

If there were a means of insuring that only SJW's would be attacked then I'd almost have to agree. Unfortunately you are still left with the problem of removing the muslims after they've eaten up the rabbit infestation.

Blogger Curtis November 16, 2015 4:32 PM  

The sooner Assad is gone, the sooner this will go away.

USGov/NATO meme.

French President Hollande, in address to the United Nations on September 29, 2015 blaming the refugee crisis on Syria’s Assad.

https://ruptly.tv/vod/view/35375/un-hollande-blames-assad-for-refugee-crisis-during-unga-speech

Fast forward November 13, 2015. Blames Syrian CIA-ISIS who came into France as refugee’s for terrorist acts committed on French citizens.

November 14, 2015. Bombs CIA-ISIS. The same CIA-ISIS that France has been supporting and arming… to oust Assad, who Hollande blamed for the refugee crisis.

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/france-claims-to-bomb-terrorists-it-has-supported-in-syria.html

It is Putin’s (and China) fault for, at the invitation of Assad, bombing the crap out of USGov/NATO’s proxy terrorists attempting to oust Assad… at behest of USGov/NATO.

https://youtu.be/_LKjPToFUho

What they want you to see: http://tinyurl.com/pcbr3pz

Blogger Danby November 16, 2015 5:01 PM  

@56 Curtis
The sooner Assad is gone, the sooner this will go away.
Do you still think this is about Assad? About Syria? How many fucking times do you need to get punched in the face before you start to notice whose arm the fist is connected to?
Did the death of Gaddafi end the turmoil in Libya? Did the loss of the pro-Russian Premier in Ukraine result in peas on the steppe? Did the execution of Saddam bring peace to Iraq? Did the death of Charles bring peace to England? Did the assassination of Ferdinand result in peace for Europe?
Grow the fuck up, idiot.

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