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Sunday, November 29, 2015

And the orcs smiled

This story, which is either tragic or darkly and predictably comic depending upon your sense of humor, is why those who want to help the poor refugees should go and help them there, not invite them and welcome them into the West. Dottoressa italiana uccisa in Kenya: rapina in casa:
Un medico di Novara, Rita Fossaceca, 51 anni, è stata uccisa in Kenya, dove stata lavorando per la onlus ForLife Onlus. La Farnesina ha confermato che si è trattato di una rapina in casa, in località Mijomboni, e i responsabili sono banditi comuni. Non ci sarebbe quindi alcun collegamento con il terrorismo. Feriti altri tre italiani che abitavano nella stessa casa.
Italian doctor murdered in Kenya: robbed in her house

A doctor from Novara, Rita Fossaceca, 51, was murdered in Kenya where she was working for the NGO ForLife Onlus. It was confirmed that the Farnesinan was robbed in her house, in the town of Mijomboni, and that local bandits were responsible. Her death does not appear to have been related to terrorism. Three other Italians who lived in the same house were also wounded.

I have a modicum of respect for those like Rita Fossaceca, who knowingly take their lives into their hands by going and living among the orcs of Mordor because they feel compassion for them. That being said, they aren't missionaries, they aren't risking their lives in order to preach the Word of God, they're taking these risks in order to try to teach zebras dressage.

That being said, I have nothing but the greatest contempt for those anti-civilizational, dyscivic fools who dishonestly claim that we have a moral obligation to permit the orcs to enter the Shire. That's not shrieking, bigoted cowardice, that is common sense and protecting the defenseless.

At least La Fossaceca has, by her sacrifice, done us the service of highlighting the consequences of nonsense such as this. ''Con una scuola abbiamo ridato il sorriso ai bambini dell'Africa''

"With a school, we have given a smile to the children of Africa." 

I can't help but wonder, though, if the children of Africa were smiling when they robbed and murdered her.

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OpenID paworldandtimes November 29, 2015 8:14 AM  

An effective line against a foolish liberal is that Mother Teresa went to Calcutta. She did not bring Calcutta here.

PA

Blogger JACIII November 29, 2015 8:27 AM  

The stupidity of young women is always a source of amazement. Left to their own devices they conclude all the world is a theme park and some rides are exciting but safe. And what's with the park characters going off-script? Like, it's 2015!

Walked into a local diner the other day and saw a sign on the counter adjacent to a large glass jar with money in it. Sign announced that SoandSo barely post pubescent waitress was saving money for a mission trip to Thailand to help victims of human trafficking there. I remarked to the wife the attractive young lady is either incredibly naive, remarkably stupid, or harbors a perverse desire to become an especially desirable subject of interest to those who deal in flesh.

OpenID paworldandtimes November 29, 2015 8:31 AM  

To the extent that any good-faith advocates of humanitarian action in Africa think in terms of long-term consequence, I've wondered about their own sense of the ultimate meaning of their advocacy. "Where do my works lead?"

For example, if your charitable action in Africa alleviates individual suffering WITHOUT having an effect on larger matters, then I can understand their motivation, Examples of that would be plastic surgeons traveling to Africa to repair children's cleft palates. The effect of charitable work in this instance is specific and limited to a single individual: permanent improvement in the life of that patient, with no zero-sum effect of diminishing the comparative well-being of others, and with no impact on the larger social ecosystem.

But on the other hand, if your charitable work impact the larger social ecosystem -- such as improved sanitation and food delivery -- then the question of "what is the meaning of what I'm doing" needs to kick in in the intelligent, good-faith humanitarian's mind. If your works briefly alleviate suffering but then multiply that suffering by causing Africans to multiply in numbers and needing even more of our charity -- with ZERO probability of improvement over the long-term but HIGH probability of greater suffering for non-Africans as they seek to migrate out of Africa -- then you just may wonder if you aren't an unwitting servant of Lucifer.

PA

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 29, 2015 8:33 AM  

"Liberalism" a degraded movement captured by the Mean Girls to taunt the out group of the day. A person could watch the movie "Mean Girls" and learn more about liberalism than by reading liberalism's apologists at National Review.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 29, 2015 8:35 AM  

People like her handing out free meds is why mother nature had to upgrade from AIDS to Ebola in Africa.

@2 you might be able to save her by directing her to the human trafficking going on in the US

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/27/whistleblower-many-unaccompanied-migrant-children-placed-care-criminals/

"“Several of these criminal sponsors are even associated with, or actively engaged in, the practice of sex trafficking and human smuggling,”

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 29, 2015 8:48 AM  

The SJWs have always wrapped their altruism in Christian regalia even if Christ is entirely absent from their projects.

While completely secular, things like Doctors Without Borders, consciously usurp the imagery of Christian compassion and Christian mission.

But I think X-er SJWs are the last generation that are going to bother with that. The Millennials really don't seem to get that. There is no emotional connection for them to the Christian Mission as far as I can tell.

Blogger praetorian November 29, 2015 8:57 AM  

if the children of Africa were smiling...

Brutal.

Blogger David of One November 29, 2015 9:02 AM  

Following the story link ... scroll down and you'll see a story about 143 native Kenyans being attacked, murdered and whisked off as after-party toys by "islamists".

I can't help but wonder about the secular humanist efforts over many decades coming to naught in Haiti ... though Haiti is a special case when considering the complete slaughter there and their commitment to the devil ... regardless I can't but help wonder the long-term effectiveness of secular humanitarian efforts in most of Africa. It readily appears to revert to something very base in the absence of Christ in their lives. And even then the native Christians must be vigilant or they seem to disappear.

Blogger Doom November 29, 2015 9:15 AM  

They were definitely smiling. Just so you can settle that in your mind. Though why a postmenopausal woman, even a white one, at that age would be of any sexual interest... I guess when all you have is animal instinct, anything will do, as shone by rape stats here in the US, and probably in Europe. Hell, they rape dogs and farm animals pretty regularly, kin too, man, woman, child.

While I have some respect in her putting her convictions to work without endangering her own nation, I also think there is a great problem. If I had to guess I would say this woman could have lived with the poor and needy in her own country, and perhaps even been raped and murdered among the immigrants or criminal in her own country. It seems like such a colossal waste of resources for her to travel a continent away to get what she seemed to me to be seeking. I'll almost bet she believed in groble warbling, though those types aren't well known for logic so she probably didn't take her travels into account. Lament her as you wish, I just lament that she wasted so many resources to waste more resources, including her education, which she obviously didn't put to good use.

Whatever.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 29, 2015 9:25 AM  

@5 @2 She might cancel her mission if she found she was pregnant.  I believe this fits with some of the other ideas popular here.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 9:35 AM  

@3 paworldandtimes

To the extent that any good-faith advocates of humanitarian action in Africa think in terms of long-term consequence, I've wondered about their own sense of the ultimate meaning of their advocacy. "Where do my works lead?"
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I don't think they care about long term. They want to be seen as doing something. Apparently there is not enough for them to do where they come from.

Remember the old saying - the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 9:39 AM  

@8 David of One

though Haiti is a special case when considering the complete slaughter there and their commitment to the devil
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Serious question:
What do you mean by "Their commitment to the devil"?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 9:43 AM  

Maybe these kind of people see great suffering elsewhere, and feel pity. Unlike the most of us, this drives them to go to that place and do what they can to relieve the suffering.

What they don't comprehend is that place is not like home base. In the movies, usually the good guy and good intentions win out in the end. But we all know real life doesn't work that way.

It's sad in losing a person who shouldn't have been lost that way.

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 9:44 AM  

When I was young, I always heard stories of the African missionaries regularly getting protection by overt supernatural activity, such as angels standing guard when they slept.

If your faith is not sufficient to call angelic guardians, you'd better stay out of Africa.

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 9:47 AM  

Also, if you do go, and bother angels to that degree - of which there is a limited number - you'd better not fart around while there. Preach the gospel, don't build schools.

Blogger Josh November 29, 2015 9:53 AM  

Preach the gospel, don't build schools.

One can do both

Blogger The Observer November 29, 2015 9:54 AM  

Have you ever seen what happens to those "build-a-well" efforts once the do-gooders leave? The natives can't and won't keep the hand-pump well in good condition. They don't understand the idea of keeping the commons in good shape, and the pump steadily deteriorates within a handful of months. Within a year, they're back to walking distances to haul mud broth from waterholes.

Sure, there are a few rare exceptions, but by and large the do-gooders are wasting their time at best, destructive at worst.

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 9:54 AM  

To make that an efficient use of your time, and of premium subscription to divine protection, requires very good planning though.

Anonymous Sensei November 29, 2015 9:55 AM  

Preach the gospel, don't build schools.

Not mutually exclusive options, of course. Doing the latter tends to open ears and hearts to the former. Even better if the former activity teaches the God of scripture and the latter the gods of the copybooks.

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 10:05 AM  

-Cassiel, Gadreel, come on, we're on jackass duty again.
...
-What is he doing now?
-He's waiting for an opportune moment to talk about the Gospel. For the third week straight.

Anonymous Sensei November 29, 2015 10:23 AM  

@20

For that matter, how is the Church doing in Finland? The percentages in statistical summaries are more or less useless, I'm wondering how it looks on the ground there.

Blogger David-093 November 29, 2015 10:58 AM  

"When I was young, I always heard stories of the African missionaries regularly getting protection by overt supernatural activity, such as angels standing guard when they slept."

Protecting them from poisoned water, shielding them from bullets, multiplying food, the dead coming back to life.

Blogger Tallawampus November 29, 2015 11:00 AM  

"...to try to teach zebras dressage."

The African Lippizzaner Zebras! Give them another 1000 years and it'll be done.

Anonymous Susan November 29, 2015 11:04 AM  

@12

I think what he means by that commitment Were-Puppy is their religion of voodoo. If that isn't of Satan than I don't know what could be.

Markku, while I agree that we as humans should not "fart around" and use the power of God and His angels as a magic trick of some kind, I don't agree that there are limited numbers of angels available to God. I think there are as many standing by at the ready as there are stars in the universe.

I believe I get your point, but it always concerns me when somebody believes that God has a limitation to His divine power somewhere. Maybe you could tell my why you believe there are limits to the angels? Did I misunderstand?

Also, how is the refugee situation in Finland? From lack of news on the subject, I have the impression that your country is one of the few with common sense.

Anonymous TS November 29, 2015 11:06 AM  

"Anti-civilizational, dyscivic fools"

In other words Scalzi.

Blogger Bard November 29, 2015 11:10 AM  

Our orcs are not like their orcs...or something like that.

Blogger Joe Keenan November 29, 2015 11:12 AM  

Why isn't she a martyr? The evil of her murders should not in any way reflect back on her.

Blogger Bard November 29, 2015 11:14 AM  

Susan, there are limits to angels. Read the book of daniel. It took one 21 days to battle through to deliver daniel a message. The message did get delivered, but not without effort.

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 11:16 AM  

Your mention of Finland reminded me of something somewhat unrelated: I had a professor in college that said the Scandinavian lands were converted to Christianity by waves of missionaries who travelled there expecting to be martyred. The Church sent them with the understanding that they would be tortured and killed, but informed them that they should expect no special recognition from God for their martyrdom, since they would merely be doing their duty.

Blogger VD November 29, 2015 11:17 AM  

Why isn't she a martyr? The evil of her murders should not in any way reflect back on her.

Because she didn't die for the name of Christ. She died to put a smile on African faces. Which she accomplished, so she has her reward already.

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 11:21 AM  

There is an urban legend-ish story that when the Haitian slaves revolted, they made a pact with the devil.

Anonymous FrankNorman November 29, 2015 11:28 AM  

29. cavalier973 November 29, 2015 11:16 AM

Your mention of Finland reminded me of something somewhat unrelated: I had a professor in college that said the Scandinavian lands were converted to Christianity by waves of missionaries who travelled there expecting to be martyred. The Church sent them with the understanding that they would be tortured and killed, but informed them that they should expect no special recognition from God for their martyrdom, since they would merely be doing their duty.


I like the Biblical God better. For one thing, He cares about His children more.

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 11:28 AM  

I believe I get your point, but it always concerns me when somebody believes that God has a limitation to His divine power somewhere. Maybe you could tell my why you believe there are limits to the angels? Did I misunderstand?

They are created beings who are not omnipresent, so there is obviously some specific, unknown number of them. Also, part of them rebelled, and a very large part are on duty in Heaven.

This doesn't reflect a limitation on God's powers, because He can always accomplish anything with personal, direct intervention. I have heard such stories too, of magic-like forces throwing would-be rapists around like they were feathers. But it appears that for certain things, God prefers to use angels. I'm sure they'd rather be in heaven than watch over hilariously ineffectual Christians who have willingly put themselves in dangerous situations.

OpenID paworldandtimes November 29, 2015 11:37 AM  

"I have heard such stories too, of magic-like forces throwing would-be rapists around like they were feathers."

Twenty-plus years ago I was involved in a sudden life-threatening incident in which my death seemed imminent and certain, but nothing happened. I was clear minded and fully alert during this. Looking back I have no explanation but supernatural for how death was avoided. There were witnesses who also have no explanation.

PA

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 11:41 AM  

Susan:
Also, how is the refugee situation in Finland? From lack of news on the subject, I have the impression that your country is one of the few with common sense.

It's bad. However, it would appear that they don't like it here, and are telling others in Africa to choose some other destination. Luckily, they have chosen the most depressing time of them all to arrive. The day is at its shortest - darkness at about 4PM - but there is no snow yet to multiply what light there is left. Also, I'm hoping for the harshest winter in lifetime. According to the forecasts, it's possible but by no means guaranteed.


Sensei:
For that matter, how is the Church doing in Finland? The percentages in statistical summaries are more or less useless, I'm wondering how it looks on the ground there.

For many generations, not good. However, I have heard some initial reports that in this last year, as people are getting scared, there is finally a regained interest in Christianity to be seen out there. It is too early to say if these reports are reliable, or wishful thinking.

Blogger Dexter November 29, 2015 11:42 AM  

"With a school, we have given a smile to the children of Africa."

Bruce Charlton says many religious groups and NGOs today regard "making Africans smile" as their highest duty.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 29, 2015 11:43 AM  

Why isn't she a martyr?

A martyr is someone who dies for Christ. Being killed by Christ-haters doesn't make you a martyr if they killed you to take your stuff or just for fun. It has to be because you refused to deny Christ or refused to stop spreading the gospel.

Blogger So Meh November 29, 2015 11:44 AM  

"...Do they know it's Christmastime at all? ..."

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 11:44 AM  

Correct. Martyr comes from the Greek word martur, "witness". If your death didn't witness anything about God, you are not a martyr. You are merely a victim.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 29, 2015 11:58 AM  

I had a professor in college that said the Scandinavian lands were converted to Christianity by waves of missionaries who travelled there expecting to be martyred. The Church sent them with the understanding that they would be tortured and killed, but informed them that they should expect no special recognition from God for their martyrdom, since they would merely be doing their duty.

Your professor was wrong. Perhaps it was their (our?) duty, but they expected to be rewarded in the next life for it. The Church teaches that martyrdom (real martyrdom for the faith, not just any unpleasant death at the hands of savages) wipes out all punishment for sin and gives you an express ticket straight to Heaven -- do not pass Go, do not spend 200 days in Purgatory -- because Jesus said, "He that shall lose his life for Me shall find it." St. Augustine said, "It would be an insult to pray for the martyrs," because praying for them implies that they aren't already in, so this isn't a modern concept, either.

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 12:00 PM  

[i]I like the Biblical God better. For one thing, He cares about His children more.[/i]

No doubt. The point, though, isn't that God told them to go get themselves killed for His sake; it is, rather, that the missionaries' fearlessness in the face of death was one of the elements of their work that impressed a culture that glorified prowess in killing, and that fearlessness didn't even come with an expectation that they would get 72 p

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 12:01 PM  

...72 perpetual virgins in heaven.

Blogger clk November 29, 2015 12:47 PM  

A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his works ...a person is justified by their actions driven by faith.

If I am not mistaken, this group was associated with Comboni Missionaries .. but even if they are not, they were doing good work....If this woman isn't with Christ today ... I would fear where we all will be tomorrow.

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 1:05 PM  

Your professor was wrong.
After doing a little wiki-research I'd have to say, was he ever!

It seems that a lot of the conversions were due to political considerations rather than admiration for bravery in the face of death.

*Sigh*
Another belief for the round file.

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 1:09 PM  

I am aware of missionaries that go to Muslim lands officially to help teach farming, or install wells, or whatever, but whose primary goal is to share the Gospel.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 29, 2015 1:25 PM  

Just another person who volunteered for horrific victimization while indulging in pathological altruism.

Like alcoholism, it's a vice with a limited scope of collateral damage until it is scaled up to a political movement. Once there, however, the scope of destruction attains catastrophic proportion.

Catastrophe is warming up in the Green Room.

Blogger Joe Keenan November 29, 2015 1:27 PM  

#30 VD How do you know her heart? What was the impetus for the desire to "put a smile on their faces?"

Blogger S1AL November 29, 2015 1:27 PM  

@44 - There is, however, a rather fascinating element of the conversion process relating to the pagan god Baldr and his likeness to Christ. It's similar to the altar to the unknown god in Athens.

Anonymous Anonymous Something November 29, 2015 1:35 PM  

It's referred to as the "Bois Cayman cermony" (other spellings, e.g. "Caïman", sometimes found), and was an invocation of one of the Voodoo "gods". (Which one exactly is somewhat unclear.) See e.g. ESR's The Devil in Haiti. There are also suggestions that in the ceremony, Haiti was dedicated for the next 200 years to whatever spirit was being invoked, and that the ceremony was re-enacted in 2004 when those 200 years ran out.

Anonymous Laky November 29, 2015 1:44 PM  

Er, as much as I agree with you, there's a big mistranslation here... She was robbed in her own house, not raped.

Blogger Markku November 29, 2015 1:46 PM  

Heh, yes. "rapina in casa" = Burglary, according to Google Translate

Blogger TheRedSkull November 29, 2015 1:50 PM  

If thou art martyred for the Cathedral, thou hast perished for the Kingdom of Death, and death is thy reward.

Out of Africa is not an anthropological theory but a fairy tale with a happy ending.

Anonymous WillBest November 29, 2015 2:21 PM  

That being said, I have nothing but the greatest contempt for those anti-civilizational, dyscivic fools who dishonestly claim that we have a moral obligation to permit the orcs to enter the Shire. That's not shrieking, bigoted cowardice, that is common sense and protecting the defenseless.

In fact, opposing these people is now the Christian thing to do as the MSM signs up with the anti-Christ.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 29, 2015 2:39 PM  

@49, I didn't say she wasn't a martyr. She may have been. But we don't know that or have any reason to assume it (as far as I've seen), so people who jump to calling her a martyr are basing that on something else: that she was a nice person doing nice things and killed by not-nice people.

Blogger LBD November 29, 2015 2:46 PM  

@9Doom: My father was a policeman for more than 30 years in New York City (1930's through 1960's) He used to tell me that blacks used the word "motherf*cker" because they were the ones doing it. I thought he was joking but in recent yrpears I started paying attention to news articles about rapes of elderly women so far, 100% of the identified perpetrators have been black. As usual, I find out my parents knew what they were talking about

Anonymous Wyrd November 29, 2015 2:47 PM  

In fact, opposing these people is now the Christian thing to do as the MSM signs up with the anti-Christ.

Is there no limit to leftist retardation? Damn, they trip over themselves trying to out-stupid each other with their hatred of Christ.

Blogger Dexter November 29, 2015 2:49 PM  

I have heard such stories too, of magic-like forces throwing would-be rapists around like they were feathers.

As a practical matter, one would do best to rely on the non-magical force of the .45 or the 12 gauge...

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 2:51 PM  


I really doubt she now thinks the price of her life was worth whatever was accomplished over there.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 2:58 PM  

@54 WillBest

In fact, opposing these people is now the Christian thing to do as the MSM signs up with the anti-Christ.
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I saw that same thing as pictured in the article in a voodoo store once in New Orleans. That was pre Katrina, don't know if the store is still there.

Blogger Artisanal Toad November 29, 2015 3:05 PM  

Dr. Fossaceca died preserving the SJW narrative of making children smile.

Missions work of the 21st Century MUST be done within the proper narrative of making children smile because the previous narrative was very bad. Once upon a time missionaries did more than just preach the Gospel and engage in humanitarian projects, but that was within the "white savior narrative." That was racist and all good progressives work to ensure missions work never again uses the white savior narrative. This is revealed by the story of Sam Childers, who had a movie made about him called "Machine Gun Preacher."

White missionaries in Africa with machine guns? Heaven forbid! Everybody got their panties in a wad, from Christianity Today to Mother Jones. Even the Feds got into the act with an ATF raid last year. The fact a movie was made about this guy virtually guaranteed a character assassination because unlike Dr. Fossaceca, he doesn't calmly bend over to get raped and killed, he fights back. And he fights to rescue and save children, which is pure white savior narrative. Raciss!

Christianity Today (CT) focused on allegations the children at his orphanage were being neglected and charges that he was not wanted by the locals. After all, Christians risking their lives to save and care for children should only do so if they are willing to be raped and killed. They are not to fight back, they are to pray while getting raped. And to fight back with machine guns? Blasphemy!

[CT recently did a similar hit piece on Pastor Abedini, alleging he has been abusing his wife from 7000 miles away while in his jail cell in Iran.]

The Mother Jones (MJ) article focused on whether Childers made up details in his book, which was used as the basis for the movie. They quoted extensively from hit pieces by a blogger named Brett Keller who did all his research on Childers online without going to Africa.

"We can choose to believe that Childers' claims are true, in which case he is dangerous, or that they're false and he's untrustworthy," he writes. "The reality is probably that he's a bit of both."

Keller, a Princeton grad, was rewarded for his zeal in supporting the narrative and has since held positions in Africa for the Clinton Health Access Initiative and the John Snow Research and Training Institute. But, the MJ piece was written by a senior editor, so he also got comments from someone actually in Africa in addition to Keller the US keyboard jockey. (emphasis mine)

"Similarly, an aid worker in South Sudan describes him as "batshit insane" and finds his tales of pursuing the LRA across Sudan's borders "AWESOME. Except by AWESOME, I mean horrifying." She continues: "Don't get me wrong, the LRA is an awful group and Kony is an egotistical maniacal nutjob, but somehow I think that some arrogant American 'leading' the SPLA across borders might cause just a touch of international outrage. Which is why I, like many others, have doubts as to the full truths of his claims."

Observe the narrative play out.

Good Dr. Fossaceca went to Africa, used medical skills to save children and got raped and killed making children smile. Please don't blame the children.

Bad Sam Childers went to Africa and used machine guns to save and defend children. He did not get raped or killed. He's dangerous and "batshit insane." Please, have the ATF destroy his supplies for the children, keep him out of Africa and send young, unarmed female doctors instead. The children need to smile again.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 29, 2015 3:19 PM  

@57, because applying the name "martyr" to everyone who is violently killed for any reason devalues real martyrdom (including hers if she was one). It's fine to say she could have been a martyr, but to declare her to be one based on what we know redefines the term.

Blogger Groot November 29, 2015 4:10 PM  

Anybody who's raised daughters knows that their inexhaustible love for baby animals in hard-wired. Look at the pictures of this Doctor with the giant photos of big-eyed Beanie Baby Pickaninnies®. Like the lady whose face was torn off by the adult chimp, or the guy who became bear scut, the price of learning what happens when the cute wears off can be dear.

Blogger Tom K. November 29, 2015 4:13 PM  

In the book, "Pentecost and Missions" the author did a large scale study of the effects of both Gospel preaching and "good works" missionary efforts. He had been raised to believe "good works" evangelism was the true key to deep conversions in pagan countries.

After his study he concluded that the "good works" missionaries were largely if not completely failures at making or keeping converts. That once the superstructure was removed their "converts" disappeared!

The Gospel preaching missionaries, who were roundly disrespected and derided by then"good works" missionaries, saw their efforts grow stronger year after year and EXPLODE after they left!

His conclusion? The mainline denominations were WASTING THEIR TIME AND MONEY by focusing on "good works" and that the money needed to be spent on blatant EVANGELISM!

Imagine that!

Blogger cavalier973 November 29, 2015 4:36 PM  

Satanism creed in short: "We are as God, knowing Good and Evil".

The first and best lie.

Blogger Matamoros November 29, 2015 4:38 PM  

All the SJWs should be sent to work first in Africa/Amazon for 2 years, and if they survive, to a moslem country for another 2.

Let them prove their beliefs a la Green Inferno.

Blogger TheRedSkull November 29, 2015 5:01 PM  

@57 "Since we don't know either her motivation, or the state of her soul, why not then cede to her the benefit of doubt? "

Because that would be bad rhetoric, and loose lips sink souls. Tighten that pucker, soldier.

@65 Amen Tom. And nobody can deny the effectiveness of the Spanish mission encomienda program for Catholicizing South America.

Just relishing the rare chance to outflank you to the right. Play that crucifix card and you'll be back where you belong...

Anonymous TroperA November 29, 2015 5:22 PM  

Have you ever seen what happens to those "build-a-well" efforts once the do-gooders leave? The natives can't and won't keep the hand-pump well in good condition. They don't understand the idea of keeping the commons in good shape, and the pump steadily deteriorates within a handful of months. Within a year, they're back to walking distances to haul mud broth from waterholes.

In this thread at mpc.com, there's a bunch of interesting posts from a former Peace Corps volunteer. (scroll down to the middle of the page to see them.) He basically says that Africans have no future time orientation,- that they live in the here and now and aren't capable of saying "Hm, if I do X now, I'll have Y in the future." To be fair, Nature doesn't punish them for this way of thinking the way it would punish a person living in a part of the world where Winter and a lack of growing seasons were a thing. And the Africans figure that if the pump breaks, Whitey will be along to install another one, so why bother?

There's also a 2005 movie called "3 Needles," which has a segment in it where a do-gooder nun goes to Africa to help with the AIDS crisis, only to find that the natives there are completely immoral, thinking nothing of raping babies to cure their AIDS and stealing used, contaminated needles to sell back to the community's medical doctors. Yet the young nun wants to help them, even going so far as to sleep with the local rich white plantation owner to get him to donate food and supplies to the natives. When the nun tries using the plantation owner's muscle to force the Natives to put on condoms or face dismissal from their jobs, they respond by attacking and raping the nuns, killing one of them in the process. This film was glowingly reviewed by Liberals and given some kind of AIDS Awareness Award, despite the fact that it portrayed virtually all Africans as bixnoody rapemonsters who pretty much deserve to die of the Slim Disease. Only liberals could still look upon such savages with sympathy...

Anonymous hausfrau November 29, 2015 5:25 PM  

I'm calling it. Joe Keenan is Tad. What do I win?

Anonymous Wyrd November 29, 2015 5:25 PM  

Preach it, Brother Trump:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/donald-trump-nows-the-time-for-christians-to-get-out-the-vote-to-save-christianity/

Blogger VD November 29, 2015 5:29 PM  

How do you know her heart? What was the impetus for the desire to "put a smile on their faces?"

Shut up, cucky. You're spammed.

Blogger David of One November 29, 2015 6:12 PM  

@12 Were-Puppy
@8 David of One

though Haiti is a special case when considering the complete slaughter there and their commitment to the devil
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Serious question:
What do you mean by "Their commitment to the devil"?

I was referring to a time when this was being discussed a few years ago ... at that time I saw a photo/video of a Haitian School Textbook regarding Haiti's history and culture where the textbook, page and highlighted text of the cited event that occurred back sometime in August of 1791. Which is also cited as the beginning of the Haitian Revolution.

That event was specific to "Boukman Dutty", a ceremony at Bois-Caiman and the invocation of the Devil or another spirit (Ogun or Exilie Dantor or whatever) for a commitment of 200 years in exchange for their freedom and the death of their oppressors/slavers ... white frenchmen. (Curiously a similar ceremony was again performed to re-committed the Haitians again in 2004 for another 200 years.)

My acceptance of the original Haitian event involving Voudun priest, Boukman Dutty, was based solely on seeing the Haitian textbook and the related text... not the talking heads. If Haiti was teaching their children this then it was sufficient evidence to me. And still is.

Since SJWs got into a very typical butt-froth over Pat Robertson's Haitian earthquake as being God's judgement ... it is extremely difficult to find the reference to the actual Haitian textbook and photos of the cited reference I saw years ago.

SJW butt-froth is all over the Internet and any references since Pat Robertson's declaration after the earthquake back in 2010 that Haiti was suffering the consequences of it's pact since it's founding after their 200 year pact with the Devil and their renewed pact about 2004 or so.

Reality is now browned-out from SJW butt-froth and any search is very laborious. Despite this I've learned that Boukman Dutty was actually a Jamaican and possibly even muslim as Boukman and "Bookman" are similar enough to suspect that Boukman Dutty could read and reading by "Bookman" of that time was supposedly attributed to reading the Qua-ran. Regardless of what material was being "read" ... reading by slaves was apparently punished severely.

My musing was reflecting on the fact that billions and billions of humanitarian aid has been expended on the Haitians and it still appears to suffer continuous tribalism, stupidity and suffering ... thus my extension to Africa, VD's cited article and the human suffering that continues despite concerted intervention over many, many decades absent of the saving knowledge of Christ and even then despair is a constant threat without constant vigilance on the part of the Christians and the practice of their faith as taught by Jesus Christ and His Apostles.

Blogger Beau November 29, 2015 6:20 PM  

The Gospel preaching missionaries, who were roundly disrespected and derided by then"good works" missionaries, saw their efforts grow stronger year after year and EXPLODE after they left!

His conclusion? The mainline denominations were WASTING THEIR TIME AND MONEY by focusing on "good works" and that the money needed to be spent on blatant EVANGELISM!


Thank you, Tom K. That is one of the most uplifting posts I've ever read. Well done.

OpenID pancakeloach November 29, 2015 6:24 PM  

Interesting. "How do you know her heart?" is exactly what a Planned Parenthood supporter said to defend women who kill their own children in a Facebook conversation I had recently. Along with trotting out "judge not," of course. She shut up after I pointed out that encouraging people to sin is both the opposite of love and the Devil's work - and that he likes to misapply Scripture quotes to do it.

Blogger Groot November 29, 2015 6:51 PM  

European HIV Infections Hit Record High, CDC Blames "Migrants And Refugees"

Blogger TheRedSkull November 29, 2015 7:05 PM  

@65 If I may summarize:

Give a man a fish, and he will sit and eat. (Or trade it for sex.)

Teach a man to fish, and he will become a fisher of men.

(And use his newfound status to acquire a wife. Thus does the Gospel penetrate the Dark Continent.)

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 29, 2015 7:39 PM  

@71 (Curiously a similar ceremony was again performed to re-committed the Haitians again in 2004 for another 200 years.)

I have trouble believing this.  Africans with 200-year future time orientation?

Anonymous TroperA November 29, 2015 7:57 PM  

Only a people with horrible future time orientation would commit to a deal that favors them this badly.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 29, 2015 8:13 PM  

Saw this on Youtube today, Millennial Woes.:

Must say it is very well said:


‘My country was my home.
Now it’s a hotel.
And I’m the waiter.’

Blogger dfordoom November 29, 2015 9:46 PM  

@6. Cataline Sergius
The SJWs have always wrapped their altruism in Christian regalia even if Christ is entirely absent from their projects.

Yep. SJWism is Christianity without the Christ bits and the God bits. But the SJW religion is all about Sin and righteousness and redemption. They think they're going to build Heaven on earth. They're a bit Calvinist as well - they believe that they are the Elect and can therefore do no wrong (it's a perversion of Calvinism of course).

That may be why SJWism appeals to Jews as well - SJWs do tend to behave as if they're the Chosen People.

Blogger Desiderius November 29, 2015 10:17 PM  

"Thank you, Tom K. That is one of the most uplifting posts I've ever read. Well done."

Agreed.

I knew the son of the man who evangelized Korea. There are now four times as many Presbyterians in Korea as in the U.S., and they're far more orthodox. He was a great man himself.

Blogger Harsh November 29, 2015 11:52 PM  

Joe, you seem upset.

Blogger Harsh November 29, 2015 11:53 PM  

Joe, you seem upset.

Blogger Feather Blade November 30, 2015 12:10 AM  

Success on Earth is a foreshadowing of Heavenly favor?

Pretty sure that's more Creflo Dollar than Calvin

Blogger David of One November 30, 2015 12:55 AM  

If you might indulge me a bit ... I'm curious as to your thoughts about the St. Andrew Day "anti-racist" march a couple of days ago ... I'm particularly curious if you have a more reasoned basis for experienced and guarded caution as opposed to those who haven't lived as long nor worked so hard to become and remain knowledgeable as to the global events unfolding in the context recorded history.

It seems to me that a few decades difference has prepared some more than others today because they haven't had a more classical education encouraging individual inquiry and critical thinking skills.

No trick or back-handed compliment ... it is very obvious that you expended considerable personal effort to apply disciplined reason to understand this world in combination of your many individual accomplishments.

Blogger David of One November 30, 2015 1:41 AM  

Your assumption is correct and I agree that it is propaganda about the "refugee" crisis ... a ruse being plied against those whom would seem to be ignoring muslim based events in London, Oxford and throughout Britain. The same seem to be oblivious to any potential lessons of the gypsy invasion.

My assumption is that you hail from Glasgow.

It is time for me to get some sleep.

Anonymous Toby Temple November 30, 2015 1:52 AM  

How do you know her heart? What was the impetus for the desire to "put a smile on their faces?"

Matthew 15:18

But the things that come out of a person's mouth come from the heart, and these defile them.

Anonymous Bz November 30, 2015 10:55 AM  

"That event was specific to "Boukman Dutty", a ceremony at Bois-Caiman ..."

It was probably Dutty Boukman, a slave leader who according to Wikipedia (yeah, I know):

"According to some contemporary accounts, Boukman may have conducted a religious ceremony in which a freedom covenant was affirmed;[4] this ceremony would have been a catalyst to the slave uprising that marked the beginning of the Haitian Revolution.[5]"

According to Pat Robertson, this ceremony was a pact with the devil; according to some guy, totally unfair and just an urban legend. See the article for a little bit more, but I think some historical digging could be fruitful here.

Blogger Joe Keenan November 30, 2015 4:50 PM  

@85 I do not hail from Glasgow, Regarding the "refugees" some have argued there is a historical precedent for admitting refugees from war torn lands. Examples are often made regarding the massive influx of refugees from Germany and Italy England absorbed during WWII. Likewise, the massive accomadation of Russians by the Germans and Germans by the Russians.....oh wait.....that never happened. We'll see if Europe still has a Don Juan

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