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Monday, November 30, 2015

Ideology uber alles

This is why the Left is so enthusiastically pushing the demographic destruction of the American nation:
“The core of the NRA’s support comes from white, rural and relatively less educated voters,” Winkler writes. “This demographic is currently influential in politics but clearly on the wane. While the decline of white, rural, less educated Americans is generally well known, less often recognized is what this means for gun legislation.”

Polls show whites favor gun rights more than other races by 57 percent to 40 percent.

Whites comprise 63 percent of the population. But not for long. Hispanics are only 17 percent of the population but will likely boom to 30 percent over the course of a few decades. Unlike whites, Hispanics overwhelmingly — at 75 percent — favor gun control.

A total of 80 percent of Asian-American registered voters support gun control. While they constitute only 5 percent of the population, that number is expected to triple in three decades.
Keep in mind that if they were capable of thinking ahead or of understanding the consequences of their actions, they wouldn't be leftists in the first place.

The idea that Hispanics, Asians, and Africans won't simply follow their lead because they are the right kind of White people who have their best interests at heart is completely beyond them. For the leftist, "not White Right-Wing Republican" is about as far as their comprehension goes, so they can't imagine the various ways in which their clever plan to achieve their ideological goals will go awry.

In fairness, we can't either, but that's only because the variety and the magnitude are so vast that it's impossible to predict with any degree of accuracy.

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102 Comments:

Blogger GreenEyedJinn November 30, 2015 4:34 PM  

D@mn...and here I thought I was going to make it through the day without being called a stupid racist.
The funny part about the "less educated" part -- if you're gonna run a farm, small business, or be self-employed means that you have to know SOMETHING.
As opposed to the non-white, non-educated inner city dwellers who doing...what?

Anonymous Sam the Man November 30, 2015 4:34 PM  

As an old guy in the gun culture, this is a topic of some interest. It seems that in the area of older European arms from the 1890s to the end of the 1950s, the numbers of collectors coming into the market is around 8 for every 10 guys selling off their stuff.

That is not to say the total number of gun people is not going up, seems the number of folks buying guns has gone up by around 30 percent in the last two decades, but most of the new folks like AR15, Sig, Glock and AK 47 type stuff. black guns as it were. Not sure what percentage is Hispanic/Asian/black, but not a very high percentage by what I see in eastern PA.

Anonymous AmStrat November 30, 2015 4:40 PM  

It's liberal whites that aren't reproducing, actually.

Blogger IM2L844 November 30, 2015 4:43 PM  

We may not be able to predict with a great deal of precision, but I think we can predict with some degree of accuracy. Among other things, judging from the current trajectory, I believe it's fair to predict we will continue to see the accelerating societal disintegration of Christian values within western cultures.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 30, 2015 4:44 PM  

When whites become a minority in the United States, the National Rifle Association (NRA) will fall and gun control legislation will finally pass, UCLA law professor Adam Winkler wrote Monday in a Washington

Please do not note that Winkler is a member of ((The Tribe)). Now shut up goy.

Blogger Alexander November 30, 2015 4:49 PM  

When smug libs point this fact out, I tell them that should it come to be, I plan to be the best damn coolie in the reeducation camp, to ensure my survival long enough to witness the liquidation of the useful idiots and 'allies'.

Fact is though, that there are two steps missing from the above formula.

Step one is where even the likes of John Scalzi realize that it is in there interests to openly support gun rights. As white demographic shrinks, the proportion of whites who will support gun rights will grow.

This buys time for:

The stage where, for one reason or another, white demographics rise as a percent of the population.

Anonymous Goodnight November 30, 2015 4:51 PM  

@Sam the Man

That strikes me about right number-wise. Most of the 20-somethings just want zombie guns. But they leaves some great deals for those of us who appreciate the great arms from the old days. I just bought my 9-year old an old 1950s era Winchester bolt action .22 for Christmas for $150. It's in 95% condition. I've seen beautiful Weatherby Mark V's going for under $500 as recently as last month, and pre-1980 European handguns are a steal.

Blogger Bluntobj Winz November 30, 2015 4:55 PM  

It's so amusing to see the Third Law in action. Since leftoids aren't having enough children, it must be true of all whites. I think we will top out at 5, and at a minimum at least 5 of my wife's friends have 4+, more with 2-3. All white, all "Less Educated", which these days means a bachelor's degree or tradeskill to a leftist.

SocJus Liberals will be roadkill, and when they realize it they will be desperate to drown whoever they can latch on to in order to keep afloat. Remember that when they cry for mercy or compassion or compromise with you. Watch them drown and do not save them.

If you are a man, build a family with a younger wife. Game her, and show her subtly the reality of the world; rape news from Europe, the animal nature of islamic extremists, and good old fashioned violence from the non-whites here in the US. Then protect and build your family with a longer term goal than just your lives in mind. Make friends with those of like mind around you, and cast your values in the face of those who would quit and curl up at the first problem.

Those white people who do so will be the hard core of a future white demographic of civilization. It's a hard thing for me to say, but I see more evidence daily for proximity + diversity = war.

0178

Blogger Bluntobj Winz November 30, 2015 4:58 PM  

@7

How about a pre-50's Winchester Model 70?

Blogger James Dixon November 30, 2015 5:01 PM  

> ... so they can't imagine the various ways in which their clever plan to achieve their ideological goals will go awry.

Well, for starters, the fact that Hispanics support gun control doesn't mean they will obey the law. They'll still own guns, just illegally.

Blogger Dave November 30, 2015 5:11 PM  

Please do not note that Winkler is a member of ((The Tribe)). Now shut up goy.

((The Tribe)) is losing their demographic edge so their influence is also waning. Wait...they never had an edge? their influence isn't waning?

Anonymous Will Best November 30, 2015 5:11 PM  

Well, for starters, the fact that Hispanics support gun control doesn't mean they will obey the law. They'll still own guns, just illegally.

But of course they will. They would follow the paperwork laws too, and have drivers licenses, and not drive drunk, diddle underage girls, commit welfare fraud, or traffic in banned substances too if those weren't all rules of the white male christian patriarchy. Once we purge all those evil fuckers all the People of Color and Sexual deviants will frolic hand in hand for ever and ever and ever.

Blogger Matamoros November 30, 2015 5:14 PM  

I'm not sure all the Orientals are for gun control. During the riots in L.A. the Koreans used their guns to protect their business properties from vibrant diversity in the streets.

Blogger alexamenos November 30, 2015 5:15 PM  

Count me among the rising percentage of gun owning whities. Never been a big gun guy myself, but gonna add an ar15 to.the collection (couple of 12 ga shot guns and 9mms).

Blogger Timmy3 November 30, 2015 5:22 PM  

Speaking of "consequences of their actions", leftist policies creates the liberal hellholes that Ann Coulter predicts. Gun control laws matter little in high crime areas.

Anonymous WillBest November 30, 2015 5:27 PM  

I'm not sure all the Orientals are for gun control. During the riots in L.A. the Koreans used their guns to protect their business properties from vibrant diversity in the streets.

Asians in the US range from subtle to overt anti-white collectivists because such a system is the easiest for their family to cheat. They find a natural home in the DNC and the more ignorant of which just internalize DNC talking points. Some however end up rabidly pro-gun. I am not certain, but I suspect it has to do with some personal or family run in with reality which has resulted in that view.

Blogger Anchorman November 30, 2015 5:30 PM  

1) Import people from thugocracies
2) Disarm
3) Utopia!

Anonymous Knarf November 30, 2015 5:32 PM  

@Amstrat It's liberal whites that aren't reproducing, actually.

That's why so many of them go into careers in education: so they can reproduce by stealing other people's children.

Blogger Robert What? November 30, 2015 5:38 PM  

The most violent cities - usually the ones with the strictest gun control - are highly skewed to Black and Hispanic. Which means they are very comfortable with tyranny even while it is destroying them. As long as they get their free TVs and iPhones, they're good.

Anonymous Joe Doakes November 30, 2015 5:49 PM  

I saw plenty of Asian men sighting in their deer rifles on the days when I served as Range Safety Officer at the Oakdale Gun Club. And they're not baggy pants sideways pistol shooters, these are precise, careful 3M engineer types. I suspect those poll numbers are more hopeful than helpful.

Blogger Sean November 30, 2015 5:59 PM  

The end game for the american left is the abolition of the american constitution and its replacement with with a new constitution that makes the USA a permanent socialist security state.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 30, 2015 6:02 PM  

Actually it more like 2/3rds of Hispanics favor gun control. SJWs always lie.

But as Colorado showed. 1/3 will reliably cross the aisle to vote pro-gun if it's a single issue ballot.

Not that it really matters. It's only the (*sneer*) educated whites that are breeding at extinction levels. Dumb Regressives like we-uns will have plenty of grand kids.

Blogger SciVo November 30, 2015 6:10 PM  

James Dixon @10: Well, for starters, the fact that Hispanics support gun control doesn't mean they will obey the law. They'll still own guns, just illegally.

That's a good point. Perhaps their support for gun control is because they expect the average law-abiding white to voluntarily disarm, just because a law said so. Perhaps they just don't comprehend our Constitution being above FedGov -- a document authorizing a government, instead of the other way around.

Anonymous Sam the Man November 30, 2015 6:12 PM  

Being in Bulls-eye competitive shooting, I would say the folks I see as over represented in competitive shooting are:

Technical folks (precise minded engineering/sciences)
Pilots
machinists/ die and tool makers
ex-military, combat and combat support MOSs

So by that measure I expect there would be a significant number of Asian types in competitive shooting relative to their total numbers, but here in PA they are kind of absent. Not sure why.

Same thing for Amerindian Hispanics, while they might be interested in guns, they are not into collecting or competitive shooting, though they did Import the silhouette game into the US of A. In fact if you look at the entire field of Gun collecting (say guns from 1700 to 1950), it seems to be dominated by north of the alps European types, with a smattering of folks from mountain ranges (such as northern Italian, Serbs, Carpathian Ukrainians, some Hungarians, and folks that trace their decent from the Urals.

No idea why that is but I see that pattern. Also highland Scotch descent.

Not growing demographics.

Anonymous Goodnight November 30, 2015 6:12 PM  

How about a pre-50's Winchester Model 70?

The pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 was a masterpiece. There's a reason that Shooting Times called it the best bolt action of the 20th century.

Blogger Lana J November 30, 2015 6:28 PM  

Our county sheriff won election and one reason was he promised the voters if federal gun bans were passed, he would refuse to enforce them and refuse to cooperate with the Feds. He's also Mexican. That, at least, was encouraging.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 30, 2015 6:46 PM  

A previous neighbor once explained to me what he said to gun-hating coworkers who razzed him. "I got mine. What're you going to do if one day you discover you need a gun but can't buy one?"

Watching such people die at the hands of the orcs could someday constitute its own form of entertainment.

Anonymous kfg November 30, 2015 6:57 PM  

"The pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 . . ."

I want.

" . . . the fact that Hispanics support gun control doesn't mean they will obey the law. They'll still own guns, just illegally.

"Perhaps their support for gun control is because they expect the average law-abiding white to voluntarily disarm . . ."

No, it is the reason they support gun "control," not a gun ban. They expect that they shall be among those that are allowed guns and that blacks will be among those that aren't.

Blogger freddie_mac November 30, 2015 7:07 PM  

Hispanics & gun control:

IIRC Larry Coreria discussed this on his blog that Hispanics want "gun control" like they have in LatAm countries where guns are highly restricted but easily available for the right amount of $$$. So, part of the problem seems to be failure to define terms correctly ... liberals define gun control as confiscation, but these non-white groups may be using a different definition.

*shakes head* The phrasing used by pollsters is almost never truly neutral; the organization knows what results are desired and they goose the questions accordingly.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 7:39 PM  

In a riff off of comment #29 Gun control means keeping guns out of the hands of n*****s, or basically what the segregationists of the South meant and did.

Anonymous The other robot November 30, 2015 7:56 PM  

Keep in mind that if they were capable of thinking ahead or of understanding the consequences of their actions, they wouldn't be leftists in the first place.

I started reading 4th Generation Warfare Handbook recently.

At location 370 of 1578, I found this:

Finally, I've told the locals that anyone who works for us will be eligible for a Green Card when American forces leave Inshallahland.

This is madness! It is hugging a viper to your chest. These people are different, genetically, and the bringing them to America, no matter how they helped American Imperial Interests, is a very poor decision, and suggests that the author does not understand.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis November 30, 2015 8:05 PM  

“The core of the NRA’s support comes from white, rural and relatively less educated voters,” Winkler writes. “This demographic is currently influential in politics but clearly on the wane. While the decline of white, rural, less educated Americans is generally well known, less often recognized is what this means for gun legislation.”

I would say Winklers statements are wishful thinking. Simple facts were illustrated in the Pew that across the board, man, women, conservative, independent, democrat, white, black, college educated, non college educated, urban, suburban and rural have shown an increase in the support for gun rights; in some instances a substantial increase. From January 2013 to December 2014 black support for gun rights jumped 10%, and while Hispanics did show a decrease in support in gun rights, there was also a decrease in support for gun control.

His statements also don't jive with the following:
-That every single mainstream news media outlet has reported record ownership of gun ownership by women. A very progressive newspaper (Seattle Times) in my state even admitted that the growth rate for female conceal carry holders was double that of men.
-The report done by the NSSF in 2013 which indicated that demographics of new shooters were shifting towards being younger, urban and having a higher female participation level than in years past.
-The shift across income, education, party affiliation, gender and even race (for the most part) becoming more pro-gun than they were in years past.
-The growth of gun culture 2.0 which is overwhelmingly young and a mixture of being both and tech savy.
-It doesn't jive with the reports from the Feds showing record numbers of background checks for firearms. In 2000 the Feds registered 8.5 million background checks while in 2014 there were 20.9 million background checks done. If background checks simply kept in line with population growth rates during that period then there would only be 9.8 million background checks. Even taking into account an increase in frenzy buying because of Obama I don't see how that would take would add an extra 5.5% percent to the annual growth rate in background checks from 2000 to now.

My own personal experience has seen a marked change in who goes to shooting ranges. I bought my first gun about 10 years ago and since then I have seen a much younger and more urban crowd at the gun range. When I did see someone young back in the day, and if they were not white, they definitely fell into the category of ghetto fab or ex-military/LE. Now I am seeing nerdy programmer types at the gun range who probably got into it because they decided to try the real thing after playing video games.

Based on the data I have read, and my own experience, that I would say this is a classic example of leftists lying in hopes that their lies will somehow influence others to make their lies reality. Because SJWs always, always, always fucking lie.

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 8:08 PM  

This is madness! It is hugging a viper to your chest. These people are different, genetically, and the bringing them to America, no matter how they helped American Imperial Interests, is a very poor decision, and suggests that the author does not understand

I concur. But I was the editor, not the writer. Also, keep in mind that the book is a TACTICAL manual. Not a grand strategic one, which is what you are discussing. It is a good tactic. It's just not one that is wise in the long term. Many of the Muslims that trouble France today are the grandchildren of the loyalist Algerians who were brought to France to protect them from the supporters of Algerian independence.

Anonymous American Spartan November 30, 2015 8:21 PM  

Can I get a link to Larry Coreria blog?

Blogger SirHamster November 30, 2015 8:24 PM  

Can I get a link to Larry Coreria blog?

If you google those keywords, it's the very first hit.

Blogger Dave November 30, 2015 8:30 PM  

Larry is also linked to on the right-hand side of this blog. fyi Larry teamed up with JP Enterprises and they are engraving the MHI logo on their AR lower receivers

Blogger praetorian November 30, 2015 8:31 PM  

I was told that your people are Natural Conservatives, Vox...

Are you saying I have been lead to a false conclusion?

Blogger Gerry Tork November 30, 2015 8:35 PM  

OT: The Canadians have raised the hugbox DEFCON.

https://archive.is/EVZRC

While there are a number of subjects and groups of people who seem to bring out higher-than-average numbers of worrisome comments, we find ourselves with a unique situation when it comes to indigenous-related stories.
We've noticed over many months that these stories draw a disproportionate number of comments that cross the line and violate our guidelines. Some of the violations are obvious, some not so obvious; some comments are clearly hateful and vitriolic, some are simply ignorant. And some appear to be hate disguised as ignorance (i.e., racist sentiments expressed in benign language).


Minitrue is doubleplus concerned.

Anonymous A Visitor November 30, 2015 8:38 PM  

I remember reading this article. Now that, I've reread the beginning, I'm thinking, "Is anyone else seeing the irony here?" Once whites become a minority in the U.S., guns will be needed more than ever. It's sort of black humor in my book. The poor liberals will learn too late that the death of the white majority in our republic means their death too.

"It's liberal whites that aren't reproducing, actually."

@3 As Vox used to say, "The future belongs to those who show up for it." We are. They aren't. That's why I agree we've reached peak feminism (as another article put it) already and, my own personal prediction here, peak enthusiasm for immigration in the U.S. for the foreseeable future, too.

@10 Exactly! Go to any country south of the border that speaks Spanish and see who the law abiding gun owners are and those who just blow the law off and do whatever they please.

@12 LOL!

@13 I think Koreans get it since they're sitting forty miles (if they live in Seoul) from the glorious Democratic People's Republic. As far as Chi-Coms, I'd wager it's 50/50.

Anonymous kfg November 30, 2015 8:41 PM  

@31: "This is madness! It is hugging a viper to your chest."

Why do you hate vipers?

Blogger TheRedSkull November 30, 2015 9:12 PM  

I guess the Progs finally wised up and imported a credible Marxist minority. Red Dawn was more accurate than I thought. Ditto my Spanish Civil War 2.0 prediction.

Good. Killing wetbacks is just the warmup we need to take down the Fed. 30% Hispanic plus x% die-hard Commie whites is plenty opfor to reduce this country to rubble. As long as we keep the RAHOWA going long enough, the nukes will stay on the launchpad. Or at least within the continent, and off Russia's Doomsday radar.

There's a generation of white boys from the Texas public school system who still remember the Alamo. Bring it on.

Who knows. After we bridge the Rio Grande with corpses, we might ask: Why stop?

History may come to view Spanish Catholic dominion over South America as the feel-good romantic comedy hit of the summer.

I suppose peaceful secession would be preferable, thus eviscerating USA's global pretensions. But as the saying goes: "It's been tried."

Blogger TheRedSkull November 30, 2015 9:17 PM  

This answers the question: If you're trapped in a car speeding off a cliff, accelerator jammed and steering wheel locked, with nothing but a pistol with one clip, and steel cages over the windows and windshield, what do you do?

A: Shoot out the tires and/or the gas tank.

Anonymous O.C. November 30, 2015 9:24 PM  

@VD But I was the editor, not the writer.

Merciful Heavens! You mean you publish books that you feel they have merit, not just those that represent exactly what you yourself think?

I can hear certain brains exploding all the way over here. How ever will they slag off Castalia House now?

Blogger ScuzzaMan November 30, 2015 9:28 PM  

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Blogger ScuzzaMan November 30, 2015 9:30 PM  

John Rappoport at nomorefakenews.com has a good piece on gun control today.

Standard Disclaimer: I don't agree with him in every respect but I do find him interesting and informative and an intelligent analyser of current events.

I believe many of the ilk would appreciate his perspective on this issue

Blogger ncartist November 30, 2015 9:44 PM  

@43. TheRedSkull
If you're trapped in a car speeding off a cliff...
You're in mid air. You can do nothing but... Oh wait: shoot yourself and use your new wings, assuming you were a good boy, and fly away quickly before the car with your body inside plummets to the bottom of the cliff. If on the other hand, you don't get wings because you were a baaaad boy, you can follow the car down the cliff and watch a cool fireball erupt.

Anonymous Hrw-500 November 30, 2015 9:49 PM  

I saw this article written in late October who mentionned then Brazil could soon end most restrictions on gun ownership, risking what one critic called a "Wild West" scenario. http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/brazil-eyes-wild-west-gun-ownership-law/article/447959

I guess some folks in Brazil saw the light, I won't be surprised if Argentina, Uruguay decide to follow the same path.

Blogger LP999 November 30, 2015 9:53 PM  

Anti Gun worshipers forget whom might protect them in the event they need the help.

Blogger TheRedSkull November 30, 2015 10:03 PM  

@47 And the car is Asperger's proof...

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 30, 2015 10:35 PM  

Both hisanics and Asians see gun control as small time bad guys(like groids) not getting them, that they could get them with bribes, & that they would just stay out of the way of the big crime orgs to be safe. Hispanics have enough criminal relatives that white people having guns means dead relatives for non crimes like breaking an 80yo bones in a home invasion, as the great news from CA came out clearing an 80yo of murder as the top story at TAKIMAG.

Finally, I've told the locals that anyone who works for us will be eligible for a Green Card when American forces leave Inshallahland.

No need to actually give them. Its not like we cant practice Taqiyya ourselves, I will even swear to Allah.

but most of the new folks like AR15, Sig, Glock and AK 47 type stuff. black guns as it were

A cheap accurate bolt action that you can afford to throw away might be worth its weight in gold.

OpenID denektenorsk November 30, 2015 10:48 PM  

When I read crap like this, I think nationlists should sit back for a while and let the terrorists have their fun first. We would be better off without the campus PC crowds: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3329659/Campus-zealots-hound-student-lectures-bars-shouts-rapist-dared-question-effectiveness-rape-consent-workshops.html

Blogger Phelps November 30, 2015 11:09 PM  

Hispanics aren't going to vote for gun control because they don't vote.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast November 30, 2015 11:13 PM  

Sigh....how can so many people be so damned stupid? It feels like the overwhelming majority of the world is a mass of idiots that simply don't want to be bothered ever thinking anything through. No wonder so many older people I know keep saying "I'm glad I'm going out rather than coming in."

Anonymous jon November 30, 2015 11:23 PM  

>>For the leftist, "not White Right-Wing Republican" is about as far as their comprehension goes, so they can't imagine the various ways in which their clever plan to achieve their ideological goals will go awry.

It's pretty much textbook "cutting off the nose to spite the face."

Anonymous Davey Crockett November 30, 2015 11:42 PM  

The gun is fine...

Blogger Rantor December 01, 2015 12:15 AM  

Most of my coworkers own guns, most are of above average intelligence, half are Mensa level, all have masters degrees. So this may be snowflaking, but I have seen no evidence that gun owners are less intelligent then non-owners... I think the author lies, or maybe he projects?

Blogger chris December 01, 2015 12:19 AM  

The gun is a moving nagant. It tells you that Soviet chooses that they are fine.

Blogger chris December 01, 2015 12:20 AM  

Mosin Nagant. Phone I'd not fine and needs Soviet re education

Blogger Groot December 01, 2015 12:33 AM  

Pew sees that "Birth rates among American women ages 20 to 29 years old hit historic lows in the years right before and after the Great Recession," with a "dramatic decline in birth rates among unmarried" African-American and Hispanic women, and a decline in the number of white married women. In 2007, Hispanic women had 600 more births per 1000 women than non-Hispanic white women; in 2012 it was only 300 more.

Ironic that, as usual, Obama's seven lean years seem to have hit Blacks and Hispanics the hardest, with single women following right behind.

Blogger rho December 01, 2015 1:29 AM  

No, it is the reason they support gun "control," not a gun ban. They expect that they shall be among those that are allowed guns and that blacks will be among those that aren't.

That's the nut of the argument. Lots and lots of people support gun control... for those guys over there. As it is written: don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.

I've often wondered how many gun control advocates have ever handled a firearm of any sort. I've seen a lefty, gun-fearing Englishman fire a Lee Enfield and come completely around. Any man stronger than Warwick Davis can shoot .38 special from a S&W 686, and they'll come away from the experience better men, and with a completely different outlook on firearms if they were previously on the fence. Shooting a gun is like sex: if you didn't like it the first time, try again with a smaller caliber. (Hey-oh!)

TL;DR: racial breakdowns in surveys on gun control don't mean much unless you have a control group of roof Koreans armed with slingshots.

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 1:55 AM  

White is as white does. Property requirements for voting should extend to drugs, alcohol and firearms.

Leave them tobacco. I am merciful.

A well regulated militia does not mean every dindu nuffin, schizophrenic hobo and scalp-hungry injun gets to buy grenades.

Anyhow the 2nd Amendment applies to the Federal government. States make their own rules.

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 1:58 AM  

With the unstated implication, by the way, that said very well armed state militias can then kick the ass of the Fed should they become displeased. Boy did that not work out as planned.

Anonymous Rhys O'Reilly December 01, 2015 3:11 AM  

but I have seen no evidence that gun owners are less intelligent then non-owners... I think the author lies, or maybe he projects?

He said less educated not less intelligent.

((The Tribe)) is losing their demographic edge so their influence is also waning. Wait...they never had an edge? their influence isn't waning?

The tribe never had a demographic edge, as you well know, but they did have an influence edge, as you well know too. You just have to look at the number of leftists and cucks who don't even wait to ask how high when the tribe says jump.

Blogger Retrenched December 01, 2015 3:21 AM  

What's funny is how people who predict that demographics will kill the 2nd amendment somehow still think feminism will still be around in 50 years.

Blogger Retrenched December 01, 2015 3:24 AM  

What's funny is how people who predict that demographics will kill the 2nd amendment somehow still think feminism will still be around in 50 years.

Blogger Josh December 01, 2015 3:29 AM  

White is as white does. Property requirements for voting should extend to drugs, alcohol and firearms.

Leave them tobacco. I am merciful.

A well regulated militia does not mean every dindu nuffin, schizophrenic hobo and scalp-hungry injun gets to buy grenades.

Anyhow the 2nd Amendment applies to the Federal government. States make their own rules.


Commie

Blogger Josh December 01, 2015 3:33 AM  

TheRedSkull, you are more of a faggot than Big Gay Steve.

Blogger rho December 01, 2015 3:35 AM  

Josh, let us count your myriad homo ways.

Blogger rho December 01, 2015 3:36 AM  

One, Josh is second only to "Keith" as the gayest name.

Blogger rho December 01, 2015 3:38 AM  

Two, the constant scolding: you are the Internet's harridan.

Anonymous DKViking December 01, 2015 3:39 AM  

I'm sure that there will be more gun control in the US as the demographics change. The US and western europe will resemble Brazil and Argentina in the intermediate future. After that, it's anybody's guess.

I think Europe will again be monocultural and the multicultural US won't have the interest or power to stop Europe.

The white democrats will have some brutal awakening and brutal party revolts to live through, but at least the white top democrats will still have their money but much less influence as the rainbow coalition carves out their territories of the electorate and democratic party.

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Three: the hilarious backup posts you engender. It helps out my list of epic feebs.

Blogger Josh December 01, 2015 3:42 AM  

Josh, let us count your myriad homo ways.

Banning guns = infinitely gayer than anything you could list.

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Josh is going to think quite poorly of you.

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Blogger Conan the Cimmerian December 01, 2015 7:03 AM  

My wife's butt. Stop complaining. They're Frazetta-tastic.

My wife's butt is Frazetta-tastic. You trolling me punk?

If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is "poontang".

Anonymous old man in a villa December 01, 2015 7:09 AM  

It appears to be a symptom of the over educated to celebrate victories before they occur.

Blogger paradox December 01, 2015 7:47 AM  

@66 Josh

Even Marx wasn't gay enough to call for a firearms ban...

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.” - Karl Marx

Blogger Thomas Davidsmeier December 01, 2015 9:12 AM  

"Keep in mind that if they were capable of thinking ahead or of understanding the consequences of their actions, they wouldn't be leftists in the first place."

This is SOOO hard to keep in mind. I am continually coming to this realization anew with each ridiculous situation that comes across the news wires.

Blogger borderwalker December 01, 2015 10:11 AM  

Those of you that are considering a firearm purchase:

The huge demand generated by the current President (nearly every time he opens his mouth on the subject) and competition among dozens, if not hundreds of manufacturers, has driven the price of firearms down.

For example, I just bought a US-made, name brand, entry-level AR platform online for only $100 more than I last paid for a gritty, Eastern-bloc, semi-auto AK clone (that I subsequently spent more than $100 cleaning up and "fixing").

Yes, it was on sale, I used a "free shipping" coupon, and had it shipped to a local dealer who is doing FFL transfers for $0 to get people into his store, but $550 out the door is kinda hard to beat for a new, US-made, modern semi-auto rifle.

Say what you will about the AR (and the 5.56 round), it's a weapon that anyone "stronger than Warwick Davis" (as someone said upthread) can fire comfortably, and is endlessly customizable. (It's also available in heavier calibers, but that's another essay.)

For the more paranoid among you, one benefit of the wide availability of after-market AR parts is the relative ease with which you can make one yourself. You can buy parts kits and an 80% finished lower receiver (the BATFE-regulated part) without a background check or paperwork and YouTube is happy to show you everything you need to know.

I'm thinking of doing it just for grins and practice. One also can't have too many perfectly legal firearms for which there is no paper trail.

If the prospect of finishing an aluminum part yourself intimidates, you can buy a reinforced polymer lower receiver.

The AR also has the benefit of being interchangeable with what the overwhelming majority of the .mil and domestic law enforcement is using. The anti-gunners lost the PR battle over hollow-point bullets because cops overwhelmingly carry hollow-point bullets in their sidearms. By the same token, current best-selling rifle in the US (the AR) can't be "terrorist" "criminal" or a "weapon of war with no place on our streets" if there is one in the trunk of every patrol car.

In the handgun department, there are a lot of foreign manufacturers entering the market. (Thanks, globalization.) If one has a decent design, one can set up computers and CNC machinery any place that has semi-reliable electricity, abundant cheap labor, and a reasonably reliable (legal or informal) way to enforce contracts.

I recently saw a Czech-designed, Turkish-manufactured, poymer-framed high-capacity pistol on sale for less than $300. Would I buy one? Probably not, but the mere fact that it's on the market (and others will buy it) drives down the price of the handguns I would buy.

Good luck, Ilk, and good hunting.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 01, 2015 10:15 AM  

TheRedSkull, you are more of a faggot than Big Gay Steve.

I think you should have to be a net taxpayer to vote ( more money paid in taxes than you get in welfare handouts), but people with clean criminal records should be able to buy guns even if non Asian minority. To account for the theoretical good ones, not so they can straw purchase to keep Chicago's murder rate up. ;)

"Keep in mind that if they were capable of thinking ahead or of understanding the consequences of their actions, they wouldn't be leftists in the first place."

My sister is an actuary but she supports Bernie "knocked off podium by 2 black women in front of what his people claimed was a crowd of 10,000" Sanders. But then again her company might be profiting from wealth redistribution.

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 10:49 AM  

He's only Joshing.

Blogger Nate December 01, 2015 11:05 AM  

"A well regulated militia does not mean every dindu nuffin, schizophrenic hobo and scalp-hungry injun gets to buy grenades.

Anyhow the 2nd Amendment applies to the Federal government. States make their own rules."

Ok Tad.

Blogger Daniel December 01, 2015 11:38 AM  

Disarm the Left!

I bet McRapey's money is getting him some nice guns. Let's spread the wealth, aye?

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus December 01, 2015 12:52 PM  

Hispanics are only 17 percent of the population but will likely boom to 30 percent over the course of a few decades.

Keep in mind that it is a fool's errand to simply draw a straight line and expect a trajectory to continue undeflected when you're talking about demographics decades on down the line.

If Obama actually gets the civil war he seems to be wanting, we might very well see Hispanics either going home, being sent home, or never making it home.

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 2:08 PM  

@83

Nate, you wound me. I am Koanic, and I spoke of the Founder's design. Post Civil War, states' rights are dead, so of course the 2nd Amendment extends to every gun-toting toddler. If we must swallow the Constitution whole, at least include the nutritious bits.

Or does the Second Amendment mean slaves and prisoners must be armed? Checkmate.

I was merely resolving the apparent contradiction between immigrant "pro gun control" and "anti gun control" regarding "guns for me but not for thee". "Me" is mensch and "thee" is rascal. Thus the correct answer is "White is as white does". Even if you want every man to own a longarm, which is reasonable, one must draw the line somewhere along the military arms spectrum, lest those with no investment in society too easily wreck it. Thus rights graduated by basic property requirements - the only non-caste multicultural society solution that (sort of) works.

It is the same pattern as prohibition - whites on alcohol or weed, not dangerous. Blacks on alcohol or weed, dangerous. So either institutionalize racism or "White is as white does".

My erudition
and rendition
are ammunition
for Tradition.

Blogger Nate December 01, 2015 2:50 PM  

'Or does the Second Amendment mean slaves and prisoners must be armed? Checkmate."

Dude. Please. That's just silly.

And as for toddlers... hey... I have had people tell me that kids under 18 shouldn't be allowed to have a pistol... but ask me what my kid is getting for christmas.

having a right to do something, and having the ability to do it, are not the same.

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 3:34 PM  

Yes, I know. I was serious about the toddlers.

But if you're wondering why you can't have nice things like Stingers, it's because you insist on an equality of rights between yourself and the Crips.

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 3:46 PM  

FFS, it is right there in the SENTENCE. A well regulated militia. Who has militias? The states. Who regulates them? The states.

Example of a necessary regulation: no landmines.

Blogger Danby December 01, 2015 4:05 PM  

@89
The phrase "well regulated" in the context was intended to mean "well-trained" or even "well-drilled", not "laden with government mandates."

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian December 01, 2015 4:09 PM  

A well regulated militia.

That part of the sentence is not a qualifier. It is an example, an explanatory an e.g. .

It should have never been included, but the point was to show that this right is useful for that function.

Under the old 10th amendment, states should be able to do things the Fed can't. On that, you are right. But since it has been thrown out, the states should not be able to infringe. But then, the whole infringing on the 2nd was tossed a long time ago ITRW.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian December 01, 2015 4:13 PM  

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Or if you like, " the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because when it is very bad shite happens to people either by foreign govts (militia), their own govt (patriot militia), or evil aholes the world over (self and family militia).

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 01, 2015 4:16 PM  

Redskull, blame the greedy people who founded the country for the gang problem.

The US was Founded on idealism , the Right of English Men (and yes that's separate for a reason) yes, but it was also founded by tax cheats, slave owners , atheists and assholes who didn't want to pay the real cost for civilization

Had we had enough sense to not have slavery or much immigration, we probably could trust most of the population with TOW missiles

However without slavery, too many of those people would not have allowed the union to happen

That desire which is really "I don't want to pay the real cost for civilization" is going to be our undoing. Its managed to gut wages in half in a few decades , flood the US with immigrants (well along with the Left but its not all them) and basically wreck the country.

A lasting complex society is expensive in terms of voluntarily limiting bad personal choices , behaving ethically and cooperatively (no muzzling the Ox that treadeth the corn), remaining as homogeneous as possible and limiting the ambitions of the powerful

Fail on any of these points and your civilization becomes unstable , fail on too many for too long and it fails entirely

Guess what we did?

Blogger Danby December 01, 2015 5:00 PM  

@93 A. B. Prosper
Guess what we did?
Started listening to women?

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 01, 2015 5:18 PM  

Nice one Danby.

Most of the troubles were caused by men I'm afraid and the big issues came well before women's suffrage

Blogger TheRedSkull December 01, 2015 7:41 PM  

"Under the old 10th amendment, states should be able to do things the Fed can't. On that, you are right. But since it has been thrown out, the states should not be able to infringe. "

YES exactly. So we are under a STUPID system that doesn't work. We fight and squabble for a few extra rounds in our magazines, but there's not even a QUESTION of having a real modern infantry loadout. Much less the heavier stuff. Nobody is going to dump that into Chiraq.

"Well regulated militia" has two meanings:
1. The original one, with the 10th Amendment
2. Anything that prevents further gun seizures, after the 10th is abolished.

Americans are dhimmis conquered by the Yankee Fed. You ARE NOT ARMED. ISIS is lightly armed. You are disarmed. You are not a militia. Militias have been illegal since the KKK. You are outdoors enthusiasts. You have enough firepower to slaughter any number of hostile wildlife, and not a grain more.

Not only that, you are being REPLACED by a tidal wave of brown. What is happening to America is WORSE than the Hellstorm conclusion to Nazi Germany's abortive world conquest. Germany did not lose 50% of its genetic interest in the carrying capacity of the Fatherland to Red Army rape. White America will.

Perhaps the overly literal and narrow thinkers will understand if I create a concrete proposal for them:

Federal Constitution of USTopia:

1. The Federal government does not regulate weaponry of US citizens
2. State governments regulate weapons according to their constitutions and laws.
3. If you don't like your state's laws, move.

Texas Militia Laws:

1. All citizens 18+ may purchase semi-auto firearms, and bear them. [Class 0 weapons]
2. If someone's criminal record indicates they cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon, see death penalty.
3. Men who meet the voting registered capital property requirement of 10 gold ounces may purchase and bear a modern heavy infantry armament. [Class 1 weapons]
4. Men who are part of the local volunteer militia may purchase and bear or operate those additional weapons approved by the local government. E.g. tanks, helicopters, etc. [Class 2 weapons]
5. Certain weapons such as land mines and Stingers are restricted to class 2, regardless of whether they form a normal part of infantry loadout. They require additional vetting before issue. Ditto chemicals for poisoning water supplies, etc.

When God built Israel's government, he made them into tribes. If you cede the male gang/militia/tribe in favor of atomized herbivore corporatocracy, you cede your manhood, and are shorn like sheep and seared like mutton.

In 1776 America's population was 3 million. Now the population of New York is 8.4 million.

It doesn't fucking matter that states' rights are gone. The individual STATES are now multiples bigger than the UNION was - a Union that TERRIFIED the Founders. Scale killed America.

You have no government. Just an anarcho tyranny. You are slaves without the dignity of masters. Form gangs, and carve your way out of Leviathan.

OpenID tz December 01, 2015 9:11 PM  

Whites that believe in birth control will eventually have to live with gun control.
Demographics is destiny, not merely democratically, but in merely "showing up".

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian December 01, 2015 9:26 PM  

Americans are dhimmis conquered by the Yankee Fed. You ARE NOT ARMED. ISIS is lightly armed. You are disarmed. You are not a militia......

You have no government. Just an anarcho tyranny. You are slaves without the dignity of masters.


Ain't no disagreement. We are defanged pusses in large part.

What happens to light the fuse if anything ever does?

-CtC Unreconstructed WhiteDevil Texian Shitelord

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 02, 2015 12:00 AM  

Conan, most decent Americans are pissed off but turning the US into a blood soaked abattoir is a lot for them to stand.

100 million dead, an economy in ruins for what?

Until people decide that cost is worth what they are going to get, they won't act.

Anyway its not like anyone here is worthy of leadership or of being followed.

To abuse the Mandate of Heaven paraphrased

become worthy, accept power and rule,

the best on the Right are at most still at stage one while the Left failing stage one have two and three.

I suppose this is part of the American "In-duh-vidualist" ethos our revolutionaries guys like Sipsey Street or Western Rifle Shooters want to I guess somehow shoot "OpFor" than run home to Monticello 2.0 and avoid all the responsibility of running a functioning state.

It doesn't work that way, even the Left knows if you revolt its because you want your boot on necks.

Whose neck and how many and for what reason are what count but no matter what, civilization is costly and requires coercion.

If you can't get that and you want to extend the rights of Englishmen to people who can't use or even understand them you get what the US has crap for revolutionaries

Blogger SciVo December 02, 2015 1:11 AM  

Retrenched @65: What's funny is how people who predict that demographics will kill the 2nd amendment somehow still think feminism will still be around in 50 years.

Excellent point. I'm stealing that.

Blogger Groot December 02, 2015 2:57 AM  

@76. Conan the Cimmerian:

Ꭹσu'гe conſцѕɪng me ɯiᴛհ tһe weird ᖯσΙdiռᶃ.

Anonymous Been Shipt December 16, 2015 6:37 PM  

I have been touching up on my Spanish recently. I am really not surprised that the Hispanic population will grow so much over the next few decades. Being Hispanic myself, that is definitely a good thing!

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