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Tuesday, November 17, 2015

Is war the answer

Maurice Montaigne argues that it is:
“War is not the answer!” the bumper sticker proudly proclaims. It’s a ridiculous assertion. Sometimes war is the answer. It depends on the question.

If the question is “do you need to impose your will on an enemy who will otherwise not stop hurting you?” then war is the only answer.

Don’t let the limited wars that America has fought in recent memory fool you.

War, real war, total war, the sort of war that the West created and mastered, is decisive. It shatters nations. It destroys cultures. It obliterates the will to fight and leaves a civilization reduced to pacifism…or rubble.

Until 1945, Imperial Japan was defended by a fighting force that had a worldwide reputation for brutality and fanaticism. The Rape of Nanking is the most notorious of the Imperial Japanese Army’s many war crimes. The soldiers themselves believed in gyokusai (“glorious death”), preferring to make suicidal attacks rather than surrender to the enemy. Only 921 out of 31,000 soldiers surrendered in the Battle of Saipan. The suicidal fanaticism of the Japanese culminated in the kamikaze, pilots flying planes filled with explosives who deliberately crashed their aircraft into enemy warships. In all, 3,860 kamikaze pilots died to destroy between 30 and 50 warships and kill around 4,000 sailors. The fighting spirit of the Japanese was so terrifying that our war planners expected that the Japanese would kill one million Americans if we invaded.

Today, we primarily know the Japanese for their fuel-efficient cars and game consoles. There are no Japanese suicide bombers. American visitors to Tokyo need not fear being blown up by an adherent of gyokusai seeking to avenge the Divine Emperor.
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Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 17, 2015 3:10 PM  

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won’t."

- Gen. George S. Patton

Blogger Dexter November 17, 2015 3:13 PM  

It obliterates the will to fight and leaves a civilization reduced to pacifism…or rubble.

Anyone thinking right now that the Allies went a little too far in eliminating the German will to fight and reducing them to a nation of pacifist eunuchs?

Blogger Bluntobj Winz November 17, 2015 3:18 PM  

I think it happened in the US as well. Culturally, spiritually, and philosophically the US has been rubbleized. SJW's are trying to make it bounce now.

OpenID vfmshadow0342 November 17, 2015 3:23 PM  

"I always thought we ought to meet the Federal invaders on the outer verge of just right and defence, and raise at once the black flag, viz., "No quarter to the violators of our homes and firesides!" It would in the end have proved true humanity and mercy. The Bible is full of such wars, and it is the only policy that would bring the North to its senses."

- General 'Stonewall' Jackson

Blogger Curtis November 17, 2015 3:32 PM  

Yeah. POTUS. DoD, State Dept. and etc. are bloviating on twitter about the new new new plan for the 60 nation coalition for CIA-ISIS demise. Putin has done more damage to CIA-ISIS in a month than almost 2 years of USGov/NATO selective Bambi bombings. But don't worry, USGov/NATO will get really really serious just as soon as CIA-ISIS does the Gaddafi on Assad. Then on to Iran.

The whole frikkin USGov/NATO show is being run on feelz good feelz.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 17, 2015 3:34 PM  

Japan was the most warlike culture on Earth and then they went to war with America.

Then they discovered the were pacifists.

Who knew, right?

Blogger Student in Blue November 17, 2015 3:41 PM  

@Cataline Sergius
Then they discovered the were pacifists.

Well, either pacifists or something more horrifying.

Anonymous Rick Johnsmeyer November 17, 2015 3:43 PM  

That's part of it, but the Japanese are a fairly coherent and high-IQ population. Much of the modern Mideast has been riddled by so many generations of cousin-marriage that IQ has dipped over time, and tribal structures arising from those closely-held marriages are more important than nominal states.

It might be possible to make them pliant via continuous tyranny (the Saddam model), but any hope of a self-regulating Japanese-style set of nations is fantasy.

Blogger Culture War Draftee November 17, 2015 3:44 PM  

Is anything we did to the Axis powers relevant to 4GW as practiced by ISIS? If ISIS has any plan to conquer Dar el Harb it's with their Trojan Horse co-religionists. Forget Syria, shouldn't we (or at least the relevant national authorities) be securing Dearborn, Courcouronnes, or the Islamic Emirate of Ealing?

Blogger Ostar November 17, 2015 3:53 PM  

As Heinlein wrote: "My mother said violence never solves anything." "So?" Mr. Dubois looked at her bleakly. "I'm sure the city fathers of Carthage would be glad to know that."

Sadly, tell a student that today and you'll either get a blank look or them thinking you're referring to one of the over a dozen Carthage towns in the US.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 17, 2015 3:55 PM  

For 50 years the USA's "internals" have diverged. As stocks and total bond values rose into low orbit, every measure of economic and social health declined, from compound monetary inflation/dollar debasement to the institutionalization of war on men and family.

Diverging "fundamentals" is a classic signal of a tiring trend. In this case, the Great Bull Market is itself a massive indicator of centuries-long trends getting ready to change direction.

"We can all get along" is eventually going to be "I hate you (if you are different from me in some way that matters) and I'll destroy myself if that's what it takes to destroy you."

Some blacks and Islamists have already adopted this mindset. Their early successes are currently fooling them into thinking that Western men are as easy as their women.

I think that when the reversal finally arrives, they'll discover they were wrong...and that the Vikings still exist under a lot of whitey's skin.

Anonymous Epimandes November 17, 2015 3:56 PM  

The most salient problem with the war against Japan was that we used atomic weapons.

Why was this a problem?

Let us go back to Immanuel Kant's criterion of universality. Something is immoral if it cannot be universalized in a reasonable and coherent fashion. If the usage of atomic weapons are moral, then there should be a standard set of guidelines detailing when such weapons are permissible to use (aka, if the number of expected casualties exceeds N, use atomic weapons). However, the silent understanding among military strategists is that there cannot exist such a standard. Therefore, by modus tollens, atomic weapons are not moral.

Anonymous Quartermaster November 17, 2015 3:57 PM  

@10
+10,000 for the "Starship Troopers" reference.

The Iroquois thought war was the answer when the Erighs harbored a Huron party. After a war of extermination, the 5 nations didn't have any concerns about the Erighs ever again harboring their enemies. the 5 nations may never have read Roman History, but they would have understood the Roman response to the Punic Wars.

Blogger Dexter November 17, 2015 3:57 PM  

Is anything we did to the Axis powers relevant to 4GW as practiced by ISIS?

Why yes, the fire raids on Dresden and Tokyo, as well as Hiroshima and Nagasaki, are totally relevant to ISIS. Think of what a real air campaign actually designed to kill the enemy could achieve! Much more than the piddly pretend campaign of 8 sorties a day plinking away at nothing important, that's for sure.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum November 17, 2015 3:57 PM  

Is war the answer?

Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvagyHs7q8w

Blogger dc.sunsets November 17, 2015 3:58 PM  

It might be possible to make them pliant via continuous tyranny (the Saddam model), but any hope of a self-regulating Japanese-style set of nations is fantasy.

"Escape from New York," planetary edition. This is in all likelihood what's coming to North America in 50-100 years, if things go as seems likeliest. The people who cannot be trusted to adopt civilization will be booted out of it (those who survive the pogroms, that is.)

Blogger Danby November 17, 2015 3:59 PM  

@12 Epimandes

We
Don't
Care

Anonymous Quartermaster November 17, 2015 4:01 PM  

@12
There are serious problems with Kant's ideology. Although I don't think nukes were needed to end the war with Japan, the process by which the US arrived at the decision to use them was indeed moral. At times one may be faced with decision of deciding to kill a smaller group to avoid a much larger number of deaths. Reasonable men will differ on the number differential, but that differential will exist from time to time, and Kant's philosophy is not able to deal with something like that as it is impossible universalize such a thing.

Blogger Rabbi B November 17, 2015 4:02 PM  

War is simply the practical application of the "start nothing, finish everything" principle - just on a larger scale.

Blogger Sevron November 17, 2015 4:03 PM  

I don't give a flying fuck about Kant or any of his nonsense.

Blogger Danby November 17, 2015 4:04 PM  

more specifically, the Japanese had already demonstrated their disdain for all standards of civilized conflict. Raping thousands of Chinese women a day, turning Korea into a vast whorehouse for the recreation of their soldiers, starving, torturing and murdering prisoners of war, extermination campaigns, the works.
When you are dealing with a mad dog, you kill it, with the least harm to yourself possible..
Had they behaved like the Germans, dropping a nuke on them would have been a lot more questionable. Since they behaved like Japanese, it wasn't.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 17, 2015 4:06 PM  

VD,

Your bottom read here isn't linked.

Blogger Epimandes November 17, 2015 4:14 PM  

When you are dealing with a mad dog, you kill it, with the least harm to yourself possible..

They're not dogs. They're moral agents posessing infinite moral worth.

Blogger Student in Blue November 17, 2015 4:16 PM  

Kant is wrong.

Anonymous Soga November 17, 2015 4:19 PM  

What is moral flows from God, full stop.

Morality doesn't require documentation.

Kant was wrong, you're wrong, and you don't understand metaphor.

Blogger RobertT November 17, 2015 4:21 PM  

My virus filters won't let me onto that page. Must be a pretty good page.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis November 17, 2015 4:26 PM  

@2 No, I think the US was too willing to subsidize the defense of Germany, and most other NATO, nations, affording them the ability to be so stupidly pacifistic.

Blogger Dexter November 17, 2015 4:27 PM  

Had they behaved like the Germans, dropping a nuke on them would have been a lot more questionable.

Well... don't ask the Russians or the Poles whether the Germans fought a "civilized" war and deserved civilized treatment in return.

Raping civilians, starving, torturing and murdering prisoners of war, extermination campaigns, the works. Yeah, the Germans did that. In Poland and Russia.

Blogger Culture War Draftee November 17, 2015 4:31 PM  

Germany surrendered before the bomb was ready (Trinity test was July 1945), which is pretty much how that decision went down. I recall watching a documentary where a number of Manhattan Project scientists expressed dismay that the bomb was dropped on Japan, they were building it to drop on Germany.

Blogger Danby November 17, 2015 4:33 PM  

@23 Epimandes
When you are dealing with a mad dog, you kill it, with the least harm to yourself possible.
They're not dogs. They're moral agents posessing infinite moral worth.


Metaphor, bitch. Look it up if you are unfamiliar with the concept.
A mad dog is an immediate physical danger, unamenable to persuasion, remonstance or gentle handling. like the Japanese Imperial Government in WWII.

What do you call something like yourself; a verminous insect, hiding within your walls, that contributes nothing, but spreads disease and filth?
A cuckroach.

Blogger JartStar November 17, 2015 4:37 PM  

For the US it only gets crazy when we reach the "We don't care, just make them go away" point. During WWII we were there and so we firebombed civilian populations in Germany and Japan before the atom bomb.

Right now we are still trying to hold elections in the country while dropping bombs on it. If, and that's a big if, we ever get to the point we just want to drop more bombs what emerges will be a different culture.

Blogger Danby November 17, 2015 4:39 PM  

@28 Dexter
Well... don't ask the Russians or the Poles whether the Germans fought a "civilized" war and deserved civilized treatment in return.
German treatment of Russians was basically a tit-for-tat with Russian treatment of German prisoners. The Soviets denounced the Geneva convention and abused German prisoners. Germans returned the favor. French, English, ANZAC, and American prisoners were treated fairly well, since they treated their prisoners of war well.

@29
I recall watching a documentary where a number of Manhattan Project scientists expressed dismay that the bomb was dropped on Japan, they were building it to drop on Germany.
Tell me again, how many of the physicists and engineers at Alamogordo were Jewish?

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis November 17, 2015 4:43 PM  

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Blogger praetorian November 17, 2015 4:44 PM  

My blood lust is up like everyone else in the Christian west, but the first step is to expel the foreign barbarians.

We don't need a total war in the middle east, which, given the 4GW analysis, probably wouldn't even help that much: Operation Goliath.

We need an Edict of Expulsion and a big, beautiful wall.

Blogger Culture War Draftee November 17, 2015 4:52 PM  

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Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 17, 2015 4:54 PM  

Let us go back to Immanuel Kant

Are you an American, or an AmeriKant?

Blogger JartStar November 17, 2015 4:54 PM  

What Defeating ISIS Would Look Like

Blogger Dexter November 17, 2015 5:12 PM  

German treatment of Russians was basically a tit-for-tat with Russian treatment of German prisoners.

Sorry, bullshit. The Germans captured the majority of their prisoners during the opening months of Operation Barbarossa in 1941, and deliberately starved millions of them to death. At that time, the Russians hardly had any prisoners, for the obvious reason that Germany was on the offensive.

Not to mention, Germany went into Russia with a plan to abuse and kill POWs before the Russians had even had the opportunity to do anything to German prisoners.

And I notice you don't say anything about German treatment of the Poles, who, needless to say, never had the opportunity to abuse German prisoners.

Anonymous Bz November 17, 2015 5:16 PM  

Epimandes, your argument seems lacking.

"If the usage of atomic weapons are moral, then there should be a standard set of guidelines detailing when such weapons are permissible to use (aka, if the number of expected casualties exceeds N, use atomic weapons). However, the silent understanding among military strategists is that there cannot exist such a standard. Therefore, by modus tollens, atomic weapons are not moral."

First of all, your use of "also known as" (by which you presumably mean "that is") is incorrect since permission might reasonably be based on other grounds. But your reasoning in the "however" sentence is based on the two definitions being equivalent. This appears mistaken.

Second, you switch from logical inference to appealing to "silent understanding", which is not proof but mere opinion. It furthermore is non-factual since military strategists have previously found atomic weapons permissible to use. Referring to modus tollens or RAA does not make it end better. Hence, your conclusion does not hold.

Anonymous DavidKathome November 17, 2015 5:25 PM  

Almost everyone in World War 2 used morally reprehensible methods. If you didn't, it was probably because you lost early and big...like the Poles.

Blogger Rusty Fife November 17, 2015 5:26 PM  

@37 JartStar

The author forgot the part where all forces dropped their gear back off at the armoury and flew back to the US. A raid isn't over until the extraction.

Anonymous Viking November 17, 2015 5:55 PM  

Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers, not blessed are the pacifists. Work for peace always, fight for it when you must, but never just hope that it will happen.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 17, 2015 6:02 PM  

Not to worry, the Japanese are nuking the USA back, just the slow way.

The morality of war surely gets fuzzy. Once the spasm of negative social mood that propels the war runs its natural course, the pendulum swings back the other way and old adversaries whose culture was already complementary become allies (yes, this is a little flimsy with the Japanese, but works great for Germany.)

What is faced this time is a clash of civilizations (or civilization vs borderline barbarism) and it seems unlikely that coexistence in the same geography is remotely possible. We might be able to share the planet, if given enough space between and limiting mixing to modest commerce. More than that, it looks like a long-term war of various degrees of heat, going back a very long time.

The existence, however, of nukes that make Fat Man and Little Boy look small is a particularly worrisome condition. Sooner or later a series of mistakes will lead to a significant exchange, and that could be all she wrote for humanity. No one knows if mankind is likely to survive such an event, and the prospect for experimentation is not inspiring.

Blogger praetorian November 17, 2015 6:02 PM  

Why are we talking about world war 2, guys?

This isn't going to be anything like that. Total war will look completely different with weak state actors, unclear lines of battle, modern civilian transportation and the enemy-and-sympathizers marbling our countries.

A potential modern total war for a european nation would be to expel all arabic citizens down to quadroons, all muslims period and then to severely restrict travel for non-europeans (possibly requiring an insurance policy for all tourist visas, let the private market sort it out.)

There are no cities to firebomb. The cities are our cities.

Anonymous jdgalt November 17, 2015 6:08 PM  

The problem the US has today with waging war is what I call the Vietnam syndrome. Yes, given enough time you can persuade the American people to declare war on country X. (Or at least look the other way when a popular president declares war on X.) But the people are so fickle that in 3 or 5 or 10 years, when the war has stalemated and hasn't made the news for a while, the people decide it's a waste of blood and money and demand the president end it. So the president ends the war, or is replaced by one who will. And the enemy country goes back to doing whatever we were fighting to stop, and all the blood and money we did spend on the war goes to waste. This has happened in just about every war the US has fought since 1960, except Grenada and (arguably) Gulf War I.

I don't want us to fight any more wars like that. I want us to fight only those wars that we're willing to win, and by win I mean either (1) permanently take over and annex the enemy country or (2) at least occupy it for 50+ years and re-educate the people so the war won't need to be fought again next generation, as we did successfully in Germany and semi-successfully in Japan.

Now, given our Constitution and the relatively short terms for which we elect officials, it's unlikely this change can be achieved and locked in place (that would take constitutional change). But we can achieve it another way, and that's the way FDR did it in WW2 -- namely, don't declare war as soon as we feel provoked. Instead, goad the enemy into committing a highly visible atrocity like Pearl Harbor, which will make the whole population angry enough to stick with a war until we win it. THEN fight.

(For those needing explanation: The book "Day of Deceit" documents how, after the Rape of Nanking, FDR maneuvered the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor by declaring an oil embargo on them. The US was then the world's #1 oil exporting country. I'm not sure what gesture would similarly provoke the enemy now.)

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 17, 2015 6:23 PM  

Not sure where the enthusiasm for a war in the ME comes from. We'll end up spending trillions to rebuild and import half the survivors. The only war that should be welcomed involving a Western nation is a civil war to expel the foreigners and eliminate the leftists.

Blogger maniacprovost November 17, 2015 6:33 PM  

Japan was rational and civilized, despite their other character flaws. They are capable of responding in a unified, reasonable (to them) manner.

The Muslim world is not unified, disciplined, or rational as we understand the term. Two nuclear weapons, and the threat of utter annihilation, will not deter them.

Anonymous DavidKathome November 17, 2015 6:43 PM  

As I understand it, the Japanese emperor gave a direct order to the Japanese people to "bear the unbearable" when the US occupied Japan after World War 2. That is why there was little 4GW resistance. There is no one in the Middle East with the prestige the emperor of Japan had back then.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/01/mike-in-tokyo-rogers/stop-lying-about-japan/

Blogger ncartist November 17, 2015 7:26 PM  

@ 37. JartStar
Before you get carried away by hypnotic rhetoric and imagery, ponder my response:Excellent programming of the masses: you just chose, in your mind and those of the gullible audience, the Cuban Republican hack as president; not the more assertive Trump; and, you just equated the fictional action that the audience/we want(s) to hear with the Cuban's presidency; but no such thing is going to happen.

Neurolingual programming is such fun, isn't it Kurt, may I call you Kurt. Thank you for the chill of vengeance going up the spine; but, when we learned to detect the programming magic with Obama, we learned to spot yours.
And Kurt, you also just associated in the minds of the readers Russia and China with ISIS in preparation for another NeoCON war: Russia is backing Syria not ISIS; ISIS as was AL Quieda created and run out of Washington DC.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 17, 2015 7:42 PM  

turning Korea into a vast whorehouse for the recreation of their soldiers

Good thing the US took over that job.

History repeats itself. ISIS grows stronger daily, and our Churchill is not yet in sight. War is not the answer? No, it is the answer, the only answer we can give, save one: “Allah Akbar”

Last line from the article, people get arrested for quoting Churchill on moslems in the UK now.

Blogger Azimus November 17, 2015 7:47 PM  

Montaigne argues for a total war - full mobilization. One could argue the US began mobilization to take on the Axis powers in 1939 more or less (you could argue earlier or later, but the architecture for full mobilization was put in place in 1939). The US was not ready to take on Axis forces in a land war (island hopping is naval warfare, Italian front was shared with Brits) until 1944, five years after beginning of mobilization. Are the people of the West willing to make massive sacrifices for 5 years today before any meaningful progress is made in 2015?

Blogger ncartist November 17, 2015 7:56 PM  

Before we go to was in the ME, we need to scrape to bedrock the social, political, and economic elites in this country.

Blogger praetorian November 17, 2015 7:56 PM  

Are the people of the West willing to make massive sacrifices for 5 years today before any meaningful progress is made in 2015?

FOR WHAT?

There is literally nothing to do here. We either glass the entire region after a night of the long knives here, or we expel the foreigners from our own fucking countries and severely restrict travel. Or we suffer under low-grade 4gen warfare for the rest of our lives.

There is no state to fight. There is no "West" in the sense that there was in WW2, and there will be no axis either. The enemy is moving fluidly within our own countries, and has as much of a legitimate democratic claim as the next guy until we say he doesn't.

I realize it's fun to larp about panzer divisions running pincer movements on mecca, but we have a real problem to solve here.

Blogger ScuzzaMan November 17, 2015 8:18 PM  

As you quoted Aragorn in an earlier piece, open war is upon us, whether we will it or no.

War is not the answer. War is the question.

The answer is simply: Yes, di you want to be fried with that?

Blogger Doom November 17, 2015 9:02 PM  

I have laughed, since a rather young child, when being dictated by those who wouldn't use force that the use of force doesn't work after I just pounded the shit out of some punk who could not be reasoned with. Black and blue almost always took care of things. While their banter meant shit to me or my enemies.

Blogger ray November 17, 2015 10:10 PM  

"The fighting spirit of the Japanese was so terrifying that our war planners expected that the Japanese would kill one million Americans if we invaded."


Very ferocious spirit, an archetypal beast of the East. Feud-al, territorial, pagan, brutal and obsessive. Liked to torture prisoners. Chumped his own people. A certain kind of draconic 'wisdom'.

I wouldn't confuse the post-war suppression of the Japanese people with the ongoing 'nature' of the archipelago. I don't hear him extolling Jesus too much.

Blogger ray November 17, 2015 10:47 PM  

"turning Korea into a vast whorehouse for the recreation of their soldiers

Good thing the US took over that job."


lol Nineteen y.o. US serviceboys in Offbaseland. 'I fall in love for you!'

In two weeks mom and dad get a photo of the smiling couple. 'Me and Gnung are coming home to get married!'


Blogger Phat Repat November 17, 2015 11:04 PM  

It's a very odd thing indeed that we aren't, in effect, Terrorizing the Terrorists. I often wonder why we haven't taken the gloves off to begin a campaign of brutality the likes of which would shock even the most hardened fundamentalist. And yet, here we are, continuing to dissolve the West in favor of those that seek to extinguish the light.

It is way past midnight and we are at risk of a return to an age that would be unimaginable to most. Strong men with strong minds and wills to execute are in desperate need; we shall have our answer soon.

Blogger Groot November 17, 2015 11:19 PM  

Kant's cant... I just can't.

Blogger praetorian November 17, 2015 11:36 PM  

Terrorizing the Terrorists

Now that is interesting. But what terrorizes a young islamic male?

Surely, not simply killing him. Even gruesomely so. This just sends him off to his great orgy in the sky, inshalla.

Castration? Forced sex changes? Chemically-induced homosexuality?

Marriage to a western female?

Blogger Cecil Henry November 17, 2015 11:57 PM  

NO this author is a parasite. The war is not against these nations. He wants the West to be cannon fodder for an agenda.

It is against those who are facilitating, demanding and complicit in the invasion and White Genocide attack on the WEst. THAT is the issue.

And this author ignores basic reality. He wants a war and the West gets invaded.

NO way. The war is against those invading the WEst, and the like who are complicit int it.

Japan lost the war?? They are a homogeneous nation of Japanese and not under attack or displacement. This guy wants a war for an agenda that is NOT in the interest of Western survival.

He never even mentions such issues. He can't conceive of them as being issues. Very telling

Blogger TheRedSkull November 18, 2015 12:00 AM  

As James LaFonde points out, violence is precipitated by only three factors:

1. Can I win (capacity)?
2. Do I feel justified doing this (grievance)?
3. Am I close enough to do this (proximity)?

Muslim "refugees" have 1 and 2, and open borders permits 3. Weak, ineffectual PC policing and population disarmament permit 1. Anti-Western anti-colonialist PC rhetoric plus Islam's inherent militancy power 2.

VD's effective stand is noted. Here, warriors are born.

Capacity + grievance + proximity = violence.

Blogger TheRedSkull November 18, 2015 12:04 AM  

"Let us go back to Immanuel Kant's criterion of universality."

Haha. Kant applied his criterion to spirits, or consciousnesses, which all humans undoubtedly have. Unfortunately, there is another factor in play - a material one. Apply the criterion to genes, and you get nature red in tooth and claw. And how, pray tell, should the two factors be balanced? Well, perhaps eugenics is the result - for surely no spirit should be doomed to inhabit the chassis of an IQ 75 African, or an IQ 60 Bushman.

We must eliminate the inherently predatory! Everything east of the Hajnal line must go.

Groot, I apologize for encouraging you. Stop rhyming.

Blogger TheRedSkull November 18, 2015 12:06 AM  

And you guyz thought Nietzsche was bad. Give me a categorical imperative, and I shall rape the world.

Blogger Sherwood family November 18, 2015 1:03 AM  

A Mideast war is unnecessary and counterproductive. What is needed is a much harder prospect: re-arranging our legal/political/organizational thinking to enable us to return invaders, all of them, to their homelands and to quarantine them until further notice. An effective quarantine would be to have airlines shut down operations to these countries and have borders closed to holders of passports from the countries in the region. We could then get busy asking for the papers of everyone here or in Europe. A local registration campaign would make the most sense. Citizenship documents or legal permanent residence documents would have to be shown to a locally constituted council that would include the town council, the sheriff, and the school board. Once every house was documented and its inhabitants and their papers/legal status determined, the next phase would be to organize a posse comitatus to gather up those who were not legal and move them out of town unless they deported themselves within a certain period of time, say 36 hours. Spot checks at houses that had been the dwelling places of illegals or other undesirables could be conducted at intervals to make sure nobody was moving back in. Raids on business known to be using illegal labor or employing those deemed undesirable could curtail further abuses.

Blogger Groot November 18, 2015 1:54 AM  

@63. TheRedSkull November:
"Groot, I apologize for encouraging you. Stop rhyming."

I take umbrage. I was rhyming, alliterating and abusing homophones all at once.

Regarding my Kant rant, if a plant shan't enchant, at least grant he's no pedant in discussing the Levant, and decant a scant tonic to the tune of a Gregorian chant.

Blogger The Original Hermit November 18, 2015 5:20 AM  

@46 Bobby Farr "Not sure where the enthusiasm for a war in the ME comes from."

Not sure. As much as I want to make some Muzzie scum bleed, I have no desire for us to spend another 20 years fighting 3GW on a 4GW enemy again. Mostly, I just want them out of the West.

Blogger Old Ez November 18, 2015 8:06 AM  

"War, real war, total war, the sort of war that the West created and mastered, is decisive. It shatters nations." - And many would argue, Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller and Montgomery Belgion among them, that this is precisely when the West betrayed itself, or was seduced by some outside force into betraying itself. No longer satisfied with having a mere policy aim, the aim of total wars became the utter abolition of entire European nationalities, ostensibly at the hands of other Europeans. Intra-European total war is not something Europeans should ever celebrate.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 18, 2015 10:07 AM  

War is not the answer...apparently.

Sex (or lack thereof) must be.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/national/50897327-story

Now, if only all black and Muslim women in Western nations would swear off sex entirely during their reproductive years.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 18, 2015 12:19 PM  

@55 Doom
I have laughed, since a rather young child, when being dictated by those who wouldn't use force that the use of force doesn't work after I just pounded the shit out of some punk who could not be reasoned with. Black and blue almost always took care of things. While their banter meant shit to me or my enemies.
---

That's funny. Any time I got in a fight, the first thing my Dad would ask me was "Did you win?".

Blogger Were-Puppy November 18, 2015 12:21 PM  

@58 Phat Repat
I often wonder why we haven't taken the gloves off to begin a campaign of brutality the likes of which would shock even the most hardened fundamentalist.
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Because we've allowed candy asses to take control of our countries.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 18, 2015 12:24 PM  

@64 TheRedSkull
And you guyz thought Nietzsche was bad. Give me a categorical imperative, and I shall rape the world.
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HAIL HYDRA!

Blogger Were-Puppy November 18, 2015 12:27 PM  

@65 Sherwood family
A Mideast war is unnecessary and counterproductive. What is needed is a much harder prospect: re-arranging our legal/political/organizational thinking to enable us to return invaders, all of them, to their homelands and to quarantine them until further notice. An effective quarantine would be to have airlines shut down operations to these countries and have borders closed to holders of passports from the countries in the region. We could then get busy asking for the papers of everyone here or in Europe. A local registration campaign would make the most sense. Citizenship documents or legal permanent residence documents would have to be shown to a locally constituted council that would include the town council, the sheriff, and the school board. Once every house was documented and its inhabitants and their papers/legal status determined, the next phase would be to organize a posse comitatus to gather up those who were not legal and move them out of town unless they deported themselves within a certain period of time, say 36 hours. Spot checks at houses that had been the dwelling places of illegals or other undesirables could be conducted at intervals to make sure nobody was moving back in. Raids on business known to be using illegal labor or employing those deemed undesirable could curtail further abuses.
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The question this all hinges on, can you trust that town council, sheriff and school board? Won't work until you deal with lefties first.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 18, 2015 12:29 PM  

@66 Groot
Regarding my Kant rant, if a plant shan't enchant, at least grant he's no pedant in discussing the Levant, and decant a scant tonic to the tune of a Gregorian chant.
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Even the ants
love this plant
when he pours out a rant
against the vibrant

Blogger Carl Philipp November 18, 2015 2:02 PM  

@60

The Bomb could be quite demoralizing.

Blogger Azimus November 18, 2015 7:08 PM  

53. praetorian November 17, 2015 7:56 PM
FOR WHAT?
There is literally nothing to do here. We either glass the entire region after a night of the long knives here, or we expel the foreigners from our own fucking countries and severely restrict travel. Or we suffer under low-grade 4gen warfare for the rest of our lives.


I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me or Montaigne, since he wrote the article. Nowhere in his piece did he mention nuclear warfare or forced explusion, so I will assume you're disagreeing with him.

My only point was that the citizens of the west were prepared by the hardships of the Great Depression to trade their butter for guns, and that the instant gratification society of today's west is unable to sustain the same effort, much less mount it, to ensure victory. This is why we bomb and have no-fly zones: the sound-byte solution to the problem, not a real one.

As for your points, I think any rational person would not seriously entertain a nuclear strike for the obvious reason that it is a two edged sword as far as radiation is concerned. You seem to be rational so I will not dwell any longer on the point. As for forced expulsion and limiting travel, this only changes the frequency (less frequent) and intensity (more deadly) of 4GW attacks, particularly since the aggressor here is a religion and not an ethnicity so there is no sure-fire way to detect it. This doesn't mean it's not worth the try, but so long as the aggressor wants to do harm, no defense can be 100% sure 100% of the time.

I interpret Montaigne's argument to be that only a war of extermination could guarantee peace. For my part, my moral beliefs would forbid me from endorsing this plan, but in the cold vacuum of logic it would seem the only way the Hatfields could achieve peace once the shooting started was to wipe out the McCoys.

Blogger Azimus November 18, 2015 7:16 PM  

55. Doom November 17, 2015 9:02 PM
I have laughed, since a rather young child, when being dictated by those who wouldn't use force that the use of force doesn't work after I just pounded the shit out of some punk who could not be reasoned with. Black and blue almost always took care of things. While their banter meant shit to me or my enemies.


So you're saying you physically assaulted someone that you couldn't persuade through reason? And you're proud of this?

Blogger Dirk Manly November 19, 2015 2:52 PM  

@77 Azimus

Some people just need a beating.

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