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Monday, November 30, 2015

Oh, the humanity

It's fascinating to see the American media pushing the Muslim sob stories already. The inevitable reaction that their violent expansion into the West will inspire hasn't even begun yet:
Asma Jama had been at the Coon Rapids Applebee’s for just 25 minutes when the beer mug smashed into her face. She was left with 17 stitches, a persistent headache and scars that may be lifelong.
The 38-year-old Minneapolis resident returned to Minnesota last week after fleeing the state for several weeks to be with family in Texas. And while Jama took the actual blow, Muslims throughout the Twin Cities have been wounded by the attack.
Anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant voices are a loud presence on the American political scene, especially at times of crisis such as the recent terrorist attacks in Paris and the arrests of suspected ISIL recruits from Minnesota.
And now, with a woman attacked in a popular family restaurant, Muslims can’t help but wonder: Will I be next?
“It’s appalling,” said Fatima Alnizami, a St. Paul native who now lives in Brooklyn Park. “People are on high alert, and they think anybody wearing a head scarf or a beard is a terrorist.
Alnizami, who works at the Al-Amal School in Fridley, said she hesitates to speak Arabic to her two young children in public. “I have to be worried that I might be making someone angry,” she said.
“We don’t feel safe,” said Ahmad Abu Atieh, director of the Islamic Cultural Community Center in Minneapolis. “I worry that someone will attack me. Every day.”
The reason they don't feel safe is that they've brought their permanent war to Minnesota. There will never be peace as long as any of them remain there because they are there to conquer and rule. Anyone with even a modicum of knowledge about military history knows that Muslims always bring war to what they call the House of War (which is territory that has not submitted to Muslim rule); the only way any society has ever avoided this is to keep them on the outside.
The Europeans who fought for centuries to keep their lands free of Muslim invaders would be utterly astonished, and horrified, at the short-sighted idiocy of what passes for the West's leaders today. The price of Pax Americana will be generations of war and religious cleansing across the West... and that's the best case scenario.
Remember, it took 700 years for the Spanish to reclaim their homeland from the Ummayads. Sooner or later the West is either going to submit or embark on Reconquista 2.0, and the longer it procrastinates, the more vicious the struggle is going to be. And the more historically aware Muslims know it is coming because they've been through the process in dozens of countries before.
Less than a week after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that killed 2,996 people, President Bush held a news conference at the Islamic Center of Washington. “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam,” he said, flanked by imams and community leaders. “Islam is peace.”
That says it all right there. Submission is peace. Resistance is war. Choose. Those are the two options - the only two options - everyone in the West faces. It doesn't matter whether you like those options or not, submission or resistance is all that there is. That's the way it plays out every single time.
Tens of thousands of Muslims are fleeing to neighboring countries by plane and truck as Christian militias stage brutal attacks, shattering the social fabric of this war-ravaged nation.

In towns and villages as well as here in the capital, Christian vigilantes wielding machetes have killed scores of Muslims, who are a minority here, and burned and looted their houses and mosques in recent days, according to witnesses, aid agencies and peacekeepers. Tens of thousands of Muslims have fled their homes.

The cycle of chaos is fast becoming one of the worst outbreaks of violence along Muslim-Christian fault lines in recent memory in sub-Saharan Africa, tensions that have also plagued countries such as Nigeria and Sudan.
It is mysterious, is it not, that those same tensions also happen to plague Hindu countries like India and Bangladesh as well, where innocent Muslim minorities who ain't never done nothing to nobody are also violently oppressed? Well, surely it's different in America than in India, and Myanmar, and Bangladesh, and Nigeria, and Serbia, and Sudan, and the Philippines, and China, and the Central African Republic....

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Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 8:04 AM  

More fear, she obviously needs the protection of J. Scalzi, I suggest she go live there.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 30, 2015 8:20 AM  

“People are on high alert, and they think anybody wearing a head scarf or a beard is a terrorist.”

This sums it up right here. They claim to be in fear for their lives, yet they aren't willing to shave and remove their scarves to save themselves.

Obviously, as a Christian, I don't have a problem with the concept of sticking to your religious convictions in the face of death. But if you're not willing to give up those habits that make you stick out, you could stay in one of the 50+ nations where they are the norm. They haven't been conquered and carried off into slavery among infidels; they chose to go there.

You know what people are called who travel voluntarily to a foreign land and refuse to give up the outward signs of their incompatible religion? Missionaries. They are, by definition, trying to spread their religion in their new location. Their refusal to compromise on any aspect of it just shows how determined they are to change that new location to suit themselves.

Blogger Starbuck November 30, 2015 8:23 AM  

“We don’t feel safe,” said Ahmad Abu Atieh, director of the Islamic Cultural Community Center in Minneapolis. “I worry that someone will attack me. Every day.”

If it is so scary to be here and Islam is so great, why on earth are they still here and trying to get in by the boatloads?! Why don't they go back to their Islamic paradise? And leave us to our hellish Christian country?! And if they decide to go back, couldn't they take those stupid "progressives" with them? After all they are their friends... Besides I am so very tired of listening to them every time I turn around.

Blogger Starbuck November 30, 2015 8:24 AM  

How long will it be before someone starts offering a bounty on these swine?

Blogger Krul November 30, 2015 8:36 AM  

Meanwhile the mainstream media has no empathy whatsoever for the reasonable safety concerns of non-muslim Westerners.

Take the article title: "After attack in Coon Rapids, Muslims wonder: Am I next?"

...and change it to this: "After attack in Paris, non-Muslims wonder: Am I next?"

Blogger Jourdan November 30, 2015 8:40 AM  

@3 - I have lived in a Muslim country and know them very well. Their arrogance and sense of entitlement knows no bounds. They are here because, having despoiled their own lands, they are now moving on to greener pastures. They, like their cousins the Jews, are very good businessmen: they come here and very soon own a chain of liquor stores, or apartment complexes. They rack up the money and go home and are received like conquering kings. They *all* think we are appallingly stupid and easy marks.

But, then again, we haven't given them any reason to respect us, have we?

Anonymous Sensei November 30, 2015 8:42 AM  

@2

You know what people are called who travel voluntarily to a foreign land and refuse to give up the outward signs of their incompatible religion? Missionaries. They are, by definition, trying to spread their religion in their new location. Their refusal to compromise on any aspect of it just shows how determined they are to change that new location to suit themselves.

"Professional" missionaries are typically least interested in stubbornly maintaining outward forms and most interested in figuring out how to make their religion sound sensible to locals, it's the opposite of what you said.
But since in Islam culture and religion are firmly welded together (wherever Islam goes, it tries to export Bedouin-influenced Arabic culture with it), what you described happens without any missionary purpose; Muslim migrants merely do like all migrants and try to make the new home like the old home.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 8:42 AM  

It seems to me that good fun could be had by using their language in an over the top Onionesque fashion against them. So over the top that even the usual conservative sperg or bumpkin could join in on the fun.

And, don't you people love irony, the left is literally embracing religious fundamentalists, I greatly FEAR that.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 8:45 AM  

Oh speaking of Islamic fundies in this country, I read a blurb yesterday about a professor at Mizzou got in a bit of trouble for physically abusing his 14 year old niece for not wearing her Mooslim doo rag in public.

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 8:50 AM  

It seems to me that good fun could be had by using their language in an over the top Onionesque fashion against them.

You're 10 years behind the times. The politics are over.

Blogger Dragon fang November 30, 2015 8:57 AM  

May you share some of thou abundant military history knowledge and explain the reason for the distinction of "House of War" along with sharing other distinctions that may have developed in different contexts? Does an individual Muslim bring war or does an Islamic state bring war? Can you bring reliable study citation that all Muslims who exists in the US are conspiring to conquer and rule, rather than say get an education?


I am not sure if that is your intention, but there seems to be a strong implication that you support vigilante attacks.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 30, 2015 8:58 AM  

‘My country was my home.
Now it’s a hotel.
And I’m the waiter.’

Blogger Random November 30, 2015 9:08 AM  

@11

Let's see.... we have the classic demand for evidence from a higher authority, the 'NAMALT' claim, and the bald assertion disguised as a question!

SJW BINGO!

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 9:10 AM  

May you share some of thou abundant military history knowledge and explain the reason for the distinction of "House of War" along with sharing other distinctions that may have developed in different contexts? Does an individual Muslim bring war or does an Islamic state bring war? Can you bring reliable study citation that all Muslims who exists in the US are conspiring to conquer and rule, rather than say get an education?

1. No. Do your own homework.
2. An individual Muslim, albeit only after the Caliph's soldiers have declared their presence in the territory. At that point, all Muslim authority is void except in that it answers to the Caliph. That's why Boko Haram and other groups have publicly declared their allegiance to the Islamic State. They maintain their legitimacy that way.
3. Your question is both irrelevant and ignorant. It's like asking if all US soldiers stationed in foreign countries are conspiring to conquer and rule. It doesn't matter what the soldier thinks, he is an agent of a higher authority to whom he must answer.

I am not sure if that is your intention, but there seems to be a strong implication that you support vigilante attacks.

There isn't anything of the sort there and you know it. You're not fooling anyone. It's just so annoying that I won't give you an easy way to disqualify me, isn't it? Perhaps you should tell everyone again that I called NK Jemisin a half-savage. Maybe it will work this time.

Anonymous mark in orlando November 30, 2015 9:15 AM  

The governments of most western nations especially the US, UK and France over the last 200 years have attacked, occupied, ruled most Muslim nations while extracting resources on very favorable terms, due to the colonial status many of the Muslims were able to relocate in the UK and France, the "blame" for the Muslims being in the advanced nations is entirely due to the ruling classes of the advanced countries, in the US the 1965 Immigration Act opened the door, it is always the elites causing troubles abroad and then bringing those troubles home domestically as chaos and turmoil always empowers the State.

Blogger The Observer November 30, 2015 9:15 AM  

"...there seems to be..."

And the Gamma tell shows itself again.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 30, 2015 9:17 AM  

Completely understandable concerns about Islamicization aside, random assaults on people who happen to share some characteristics with even very bad groups seems uncivilized to me. In fact, it is quite savage. Like when that Jewish driver struck and killed a small black child in the 90s, and Al Sharpton stoked a mob into murdering a random Jewish student in retaliation. Not even the same driver, just some random other Jew who happened to be in the area.

The assailant apparently had a history of such things, so the story itself is quite overwrought and is trying to push a narrative that the details don't fit. It's not quite as bad as "Hands Up, Don't Shoot", but how exactly do you get "a pervasive anti-Muslim attitude" from an attack by a single person, who has a history of anti-social behavior? Including previous assaults?

@11 I wouldn't even call this a vigilante attack. Vigilantism would imply that she had ties to Islamic supremacy groups.

Anonymous Rosalys November 30, 2015 9:17 AM  

"The 38-year-old Minneapolis resident returned to Minnesota last week after fleeing the state for several weeks to be with family in Texas."

Fleeing? I find this wording very odd. Why not just say "...after visiting family in Texas."? If she needed to flee, why did she return? If she was out having lunch with friends, in public, at Applebee's, she obviously didn't feel threatened. Or is this just more crack reporting from a media trying to give the story heightened emotion.

I don't want to suggest that it was alright for someone to throw a mug of beer into anyone's face, except as an immediate defensive measure; but Muslims had better get it that the tide is turning and many Americans aren't going to continue to put up with this leftist multicultural crap and submit to jihad over America without a fight. Sorry about the cuts and bruises on your face, Asma, but this should be a learning experience for you. If Americans see you as a threat, they do so with very good reason.

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 9:19 AM  

random assaults on people who happen to share some characteristics with even very bad groups seems uncivilized to me. In fact, it is quite savage.

It is. That's why you don't invite in people who are likely to reduce your own civilized inhabitants to savagery. The die is cast at the moment you bring them in, Leo.

Anonymous DanielCC November 30, 2015 9:19 AM  

I don't agree with the sentiments here expressed about Islam/Muslims in Europe or the US or whatever, though by the same token I think the way contemporary Leftists approach Islam is viable or, ultimately, even likely to inspire respect from Islamic civilizations themselves.

That said a certain burning question still remains: Who really wants a ‘civilisation’ like this to continue, who wants to live in a world where one is forced to cheer obscene cartoonists and grinning atheist novelists (with no literary ability) – not merely to tolerate them but to treat them and their actions with a respect other civilizations give to saints and martyrs – who wants to live in a civilization which is not publicly permitted to affirm cosmic value to human life, yet spends most its time in hysterical SJW moralising? Not I certainly.

Vox has twice intermitted that there are ‘two’ options, the ‘minimise immigration and homogenise’ or the ‘surrender to an invading civilization’, and that those who do not wish for the latter will have to come out on the side of the former soon before it is replaced with ultra-nationalism, neo-nazism and other extremes. Even if we granted this was true (which I don't) there would always remain a third option: to put a bullet through one's skull or to throw one's self on one's own sword. This may be the most honorable and the only moral way.

Tl;dr version: is there anything really worth saving?

Blogger Dragon fang November 30, 2015 9:21 AM  

@13

Ah... someone seeing a request as a threat, and consequently confusing it for a demand.

Factually speaking, male humans contain objective and tangible differences in their physiology that can be observed with the naked eye, furthermore it can be reasonably shown that they largely differ in their values and worldviews. Are you following so far? Do you deny the previously mentioned statements?

And the redherring comes; the bankrupt argument is finally signed & sealed. Congratulations. Whether I display doubt at the claims or not is irrelevant to their validity and soundness. My personal views can be discussed later at a separate point.

Social justice doesn't mix with capitalism bud, why be proud at being a SJW?!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 9:21 AM  

Matthew Bracken has a rather long but informative piece about the three sided conflict going on in the West primarily Europe. It is at Western Rifle Shooters or Gates of Vienna for those who want to read a detailed briefing of the players and their probable courses of action.

Anonymous old man in a villa November 30, 2015 9:21 AM  

"Anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant voices are a loud presence on the American political scene, especially at times of crisis such as the recent terrorist attacks in Paris and the arrests of suspected ISIL recruits from Minnesota."

It's crazy, isn't it? It's like someone seeing their neighbor's house burn down and then going out to buy a fire extinguisher, I mean, hello? Over-react much?

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 30, 2015 9:23 AM  

@20

Apparently Congress and Obama managed to do one good thing this year: the passage of the Space Mining Act has officially re-opened the frontier. So in a decade or so there might be something worth saving.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 30, 2015 9:25 AM  

Is the train still OK though?

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 9:26 AM  

Ah... someone seeing a request as a threat, and consequently confusing it for a demand.

We've seen sufficient snakes of your sort here that we know exactly what your "request" is. Don't think you're fooling anyone.

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 9:29 AM  

I don't agree with the sentiments here expressed about Islam/Muslims in Europe or the US or whatever, though by the same token I think the way contemporary Leftists approach Islam is viable or, ultimately, even likely to inspire respect from Islamic civilizations themselves.

No one cares. You might as reasonably claim that you don't agree with the sentiment that a ball, once dropped, will hit the ground. This is so obvious that you have to be literally ignorant or willfully blind not to see it. It's going to happen. The historical die is cast.

Blogger Dragon fang November 30, 2015 9:31 AM  

1. No. Do your own homework.

Grain of salt + question begging.

2. An individual Muslim, albeit only after the Caliph's soldiers have declared their presence in the territory. At that point, all Muslim authority is void except in that it answers to the Caliph. That's why Boko Haram and other groups have publicly declared their allegiance to the Islamic State. They maintain their legitimacy that way.

What Caliphate? Does it have the support of legal Islamic scholarship, or most of the Muslims since a Caliphate by definition is general leadership of the entire Muslim Ummah or most of it? Huh, I thought Muslims were divided.

3. Your question is both irrelevant and ignorant. It's like asking if all US soldiers stationed in foreign countries are conspiring to conquer and rule. It doesn't matter what the soldier thinks, he is an agent of a higher authority to whom he must answer.

I thought that by citizens they are obliged to follow the constitution by definition. Are you talking about illegal aliens?

There isn't anything of the sort there and you know it. You're not fooling anyone. It's just so annoying that I won't give you an easy way to disqualify me, isn't it? Perhaps you should tell everyone again that I called NK Jemisin a half-savage. Maybe it will work this time.

Weird, thought that warriors (ie. who bring war) are combatants. Weird semantics on your part I guess.

You are questioning that feminists are savages?

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 9:31 AM  

Vox has twice intermitted that there are ‘two’ options, the ‘minimise immigration and homogenise’ or the ‘surrender to an invading civilization’, and that those who do not wish for the latter will have to come out on the side of the former soon before it is replaced with ultra-nationalism, neo-nazism and other extremes.

I personally expect the rise of the ultra-nationalists and the end of liberal democracy. The fact that so many Westerners are still in denial and still mouthing multiculturalist platitudes tends to indicate they will not reverse course fast enough. Remember, these things always take longer than one thinks possible, then happen faster than one imagines.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 30, 2015 9:33 AM  

@28

I thought that by citizens they are obliged to follow the constitution by definition.

Yes, and the concern is that they may not think of themselves as citizens, but rather as Umma. If they think of themselves as citizens, they are not practicing Islam in an orthodox fashion. Whereas if they think of themselves as Umma, then they are, and cannot be trusted.

Anonymous 0007 November 30, 2015 9:39 AM  

The unstated question is WHY - what was she doing - that caused her to get hit in the face with a beer mug? And was she - a good muz - sitting alone by her self in that den of iniquity?
Or is it just possible that it was an accident?

Anonymous rubberducky November 30, 2015 9:40 AM  

Dragon fang, go away.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 9:43 AM  

It is their opinions they see anti-muslim sentiment and rhetoric, but it is just that, opinion, nothing more.

Blogger Student in Blue November 30, 2015 9:46 AM  

What Caliphate?

No True Caliphate, huh?

Blogger Jakeithus November 30, 2015 9:48 AM  

"Meanwhile the mainstream media has no empathy whatsoever for the reasonable safety concerns of non-muslim Westerners.

Take the article title: "After attack in Coon Rapids, Muslims wonder: Am I next?"

...and change it to this: "After attack in Paris, non-Muslims wonder: Am I next?""

That's just not how the mainstream thinks. A single Muslim getting hit by a beer is a tragedy, and since it was perpetrated by "bigots" it brings it close to home for the progressive. After all, many people have been in situations where a belligerent at a bar may have attacked someone, so it's a realistic fear in their minds.

A large scale Muslim terrorist attack is too far removed from their reality to really consider it. It's like a force of nature no one can understand, so no real reason to fear it.

They can understand the motivation behind the attack on Muslims, therefor they can understand the fear. They don't understand the motivation behind Islamic terrorism or just Islam in general, therefor the fear is seen as irrational.

Blogger praetorian November 30, 2015 9:49 AM  

How do you feel about trains, dragon fang?

Anonymous Soga November 30, 2015 9:50 AM  

Maybe the woman here was simply being included in a male space by having her participate in an old fashioned bar fight?

I mean, how can you argue that's a bad thing? It's being inclusive! And she's Muslim - look, doubly inclusive!

This makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 9:52 AM  

What Caliphate? Does it have the support of legal Islamic scholarship, or most of the Muslims since a Caliphate by definition is general leadership of the entire Muslim Ummah or most of it?

As I said, you are ignorant. That is not what a caliphate is, especially not according to Muslim doctrine. To be caliph, a Muslim must be a Muslim adult man of Quraysh descent; exhibiting moral probity and physical and mental integrity; and having ’amr, or authority over territory where Islamic Law is in effect. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been the commander of all Muslims since June 29, 2014, when the Caliphate was proclaimed.

Not all Muslims recognize him yet, just as many Muslims drink alcohol, but he is the legitimate Caliph by their doctrine and an orthodox Muslim knows that "to die without pledging baya’a (allegiance) is to die jahil (ignorant) and therefore die a death of disbelief.”

Blogger Jourdan November 30, 2015 9:53 AM  

Even tiny Trinidad and Tobago, with a Muslim population of less than 3% has felt the effects.

The Jamaat al Muslimeen coup attempt was an attempt to overthrow the government of Trinidad and Tobago, instigated on Friday, 27 July 1990. Over the course of six days, Jamaat al Muslimeen, a Muslim organization, held hostages (including Prime Minister A. N. R. Robinson and other government officials) at the Red House and at the headquarters of Trinidad and Tobago Television. On 1 August, the insurgents surrendered.

Anonymous bw November 30, 2015 9:53 AM  

minorities who ain't never done nothing to nobody

Dindu! Used by TheTribe in attempt to conquer the West (done deal) by beating White boy over the head. Blacks have never had any real power. None, 'cept that given to them and propped up by the Elites who use them to break down Euro civilization - same for Incan/Mayan/Aztec mestizos.

even likely to inspire respect from Islamic civilizations

Beyond Ignorant and Stupid. Aggression! Placate Now, for the Win! Nature and Game are lost on these deluded souls. Would that they could learn their lesson with no other innocents (read: those who get it) around them being negatively affected.`

The die is cast at the moment you bring them in, Leo.

Coercion + Diversity + Proximity + Nature-Hater = War

Blogger Jourdan November 30, 2015 10:02 AM  

Speaking of SJW appeals to authority, doesn't al-Bahgdadi have an advanced degree in Islamic theology from a recognized university?

Blogger VD November 30, 2015 10:03 AM  

Speaking of SJW appeals to authority, doesn't al-Bahgdadi have an advanced degree in Islamic theology from a recognized university?

Yes. The "moderate" Muslims are considerably less credible with regards to their theological claims. ISIS is, by all objective accounts, alarmingly sound in their orthodoxy.

Blogger Elocutioner #0226 November 30, 2015 10:06 AM  

"She’s anxious and paranoid that there could be other attacks, she said: “What if people recognize me and feel the same way that [Burchard-Risch] feels?”"

... she says while talking to a reporter that will plaster her face and video on the Internet where she can be seen by everyone in the area. Then the story was picked up by every leftwing site. BTW, a GoFundMe project more than paid her medical bills, so at least she suckered leftwing twats for that rather than taxpayers.

The incident "put fear in me that I never had. One minute we were laughing, ordering our drinks, then the next my young niece is crying and there’s blood all over my face. Just thinking about it makes me sick."

Thinking about the child rapes, stonings, honor killings, gang rapes, beatings, and beheadings that your kind brings here makes me sick. I no longer have any sympathy for the "refugees" or invaders to my own country, nor their collaborators. Time to go home.

"And now, with a woman attacked in a popular family restaurant, Muslims can’t help but wonder: Will I be next?"
After 9/11 and importing millions of additional moslems I wonder if me or my family might be next. I'll note that you won't see too many stories about moslems speaking out against violence towards Christians by the mythical "moderate" moslem. She's been in the US since 2000, is still a moslem wearing headscarves and speaking Swahili in public, and raising her non-integrating children at our expense.

The Saxon began to hate long ago. That phase is about done.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 30, 2015 10:07 AM  

@39

A co-worker of mine is from Trinidad, and he was there for that. His family lives in a very rural area, so they were spared the violence, but he says the locals do not like the Muslim minority very much. The island is apparently quite Christian, and the man himself is a devout churchgoer who reads Bible-study materials on his lunch break.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 30, 2015 10:09 AM  

This is almost as bad as the CUCKS feeling sorry for murderers because of the consequences jail will have on murderers lives. Sure they raped and killed a white girl, but they shouldn't be punished.

""These individuals have been involved in other crimes. Does this speak to the difficulty in trying to reach young people? The suspects are no strangers to police. They've had run ins with police before. They've had criminal pasts. Both are young men - 21, 20 and younger [18-year-old Larry Taylor is accused of murdering Amanda Blackburn and the child she carried]. They have presumption of innocence, but their lives, if they lead to conviction, are essentially ruined, their families lives are devastated by what has happened. Does this speak to a larger issue for these two?"

"But I do object to using words such as “animal” to dehumanize the accused — not for their sake. But for our own."
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2015/11/journalists-in-indianapolis-show-their.html

People are on high alert, and they think anybody wearing a head scarf or a beard is a terrorist.

Most are just welfare leaches but the moslem vaginas fire full auto biological weapons & IQ is mostly genetic.

You know what people are called who travel voluntarily to a foreign land and refuse to give up the outward signs of their incompatible religion? Missionaries.

Missionaries hand out free stuff not live off it.

Blogger grendel November 30, 2015 10:11 AM  

"The cycle of chaos is fast becoming one of the worst outbreaks of violence along Muslim-Christian fault lines in recent memory in sub-Saharan Africa,"

Just a touch of outbreak, it's no one's fault really. it's really bad this time though, because it's Christians winning. We here at the WaPo prefer our outbreaks to look like Darfur.

Blogger Gaiseric November 30, 2015 10:14 AM  

As always, detailed knowledge is the cure for ignorance. Yeah, I know, dialectic doesn't convince those who don't understand it. But you need the dialectic anyway for those who do speak it.

Blogger Harsh November 30, 2015 10:17 AM  

@Dragon fang

Just like it was for you in school, you don't get to sit at the cool kids' table.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 30, 2015 10:18 AM  

VD

“It’s appalling,” said Fatima Alnizami, a St. Paul native who now lives in Brooklyn Park

Have you noticed how most articles mention them as natives?

They said the Paris attacks were done primarily by Frenchmen... Then put their names, which were pretty damn non-french sounding. I haven't had time to look up the attackers resident history, but I raised an eyebrow at that one.

Blogger Shimshon November 30, 2015 10:23 AM  

If SJWs pick up this story, it could be just as likely for the raciss! name of Coon Rapids. I mean, c**n. I'm so triggered my hands are shaking.

Anonymous Roundtine November 30, 2015 10:26 AM  

The fact that so many Westerners are still in denial and still mouthing multiculturalist platitudes tends to indicate they will not reverse course fast enough.

It would be one thing to mouth platitudes while holding the line on open door immigration policies, but they're flooding their nations with migrants at a time when the public wants restrictions. In the case of Obama, he may be the most out of touch American political leader since the governor of the Province of Massachusetts Bay.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 30, 2015 10:36 AM  

CUCK fang-May you share some of thou abundant military history knowledge and explain the reason for the distinction of "House of War"

Moslems are allowed to lie even under oath because Moo ham mads greatest victory came from breaking a peace treaty in the middle of the night. Look up the terms Taqiyya, Jizya, Diminitude, al-hijra, kitman and bacha-bazi if you want to stop being a cuck.

CUCK fan- Can you bring reliable study citation that all Muslims who exists in the US are conspiring to

All moslems conspiring? They don't have to. If good moslems exist , which I disbelieve, they are irrelevant. But don't take my word for it.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/moderate-muslims-irrelevant-america-world/

Also don't confuse all imigrants are rapists with , all rapists for the last 5 years of available data in the capital of Norway are non-European. All you have to do is have a crime rate dozens of times higher than east-Asians or whites to monopolize crime. When Eric Holder fought Florida's Felon No Vote Law he admitted that 1 out of 3 voting age black males are felons, so even there is not all of them.

I am not sure if that is your intention, but there seems to be a strong implication that you support vigilante attacks.

Yes someone please put their heads on pikes so places will be safe for puffs. You see if cops are willing to ignore 1400+ little white girls being gang raped by moslems because they fear being called racist, what will they do for puffs attacked by moslems? The mafia used to run gay bars offering protection from police.

likely for the raciss! name of Coon Rapids. I mean, c**n. I'm so triggered my hands are shaking

I think I will set up a go fund me site for $1million to change the name of Coon Rapids. That should be just enough to change the name on my road atlas.

Blogger JP November 30, 2015 10:37 AM  

You (the general you) shouldn't really comment on this situation if you don't have firsthand experience with muslims both as a geographical minority and majority. Take my home town of Cape Town, South Africa for instance. We have a very high concentration of muslims in certain suburbs and very low concentrations of them in others (yes, this roughly follows the old apartheid lines, but that's irrelevant). I live in one of the latter suburbs. The few muslims here are very friendly and courteous, though reserved and unwilling to engage in animated conversation (shooting the shit, or whatever you call it). But go to one of the muslim-dominated suburbs and the same man will tell you "Fuck off, you white piece of shit" (I speak from firsthand experience).

They will petition government over the slightest injury to their dignity in the most pathetic wailing voices you ever heard, then when they are given a platform, will transform from this big doe-eyed victim into a raging ball of hate and rhetoric. The transformation is almost instantaneous.

They play the victim only to gain political power. Like the manipulative little sister who fakes crying or pretends like your hurting her so mommy will give her candy and spank you.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 30, 2015 10:39 AM  

Since Cuck Fang claims to be ignorant, those 1400+ little white girls that cops& social workers admitted to ignoring out of fear of being called bad names happened in Rotherham UK

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 30, 2015 10:48 AM  

Star Tribune engaged in fear mongering how pathetic and disturbing.

Anonymous Nxx November 30, 2015 10:51 AM  

@11. Dragon fang

Can you bring reliable study citation that all Muslims who exists in the US are conspiring to conquer and rule, rather than say get an education?

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

Muslim Opinion Polls

I am not sure if that is your intention, but there seems to be a strong implication that you support vigilante attacks.

If just 1% of this 26% act on their beliefs, and they will, then 130 people die and millions turn to radical nationalism. Every attack, millions. And again. And again. And suddenly the airy fairy tolerance paradigm is shattered by the sledgehammer of violence. What happens next is what happens in every ethnic conflict in every age and in every country throughout history; both sides radicalize and the heads of traitors roll on both sides. So don't worry about the muslims, worry about the non-muslim traitors who let them in for virtue signalling, ego self-stroking mental masturbation purposes. That's who will suffer the most. The vigilante attacks are coming no matter what because they are a fact chiselled in history. VD is just pointing out the obvious.

Anonymous Scintan November 30, 2015 10:52 AM  

A woman, likely drunk, with a previous assault history attacked a woman for not speaking English.

Burchard-Risch was dining Friday with her husband when she overheard the woman, who was sitting in a nearby booth, according to the complaint. “[Burchard-Risch] and her husband were upset that [the victim] was speaking in a foreign language,” according to the complaint. She began to yell at the woman.

Restaurant managers tried to get Burchard-Risch to leave, but she refused to do so. She continued to yell at the victim and then threw a drink on her, according to the complaint.


How did that magically morph into a Muslim issue? Through the magic of a press with an agenda.

Blogger James Clifton November 30, 2015 10:56 AM  

They describe the attacker as "a 43-year-old dental assistant from Ramsey with a history of assault, theft and drinking problems, according to court records." Many white women have such a history, so this attack cannot be written off because of it. In fact, it should remind us that our women can be just as primal as us.

Blogger Elocutioner #0226 November 30, 2015 11:07 AM  

@57 Yep. Notice that the "victim" is pure as the wind driven snow (heh). Right, I believe that. More like blown mud. I think it's more likely that the actual native is tired of seeing the mouthy, entitled invaders destroying her nation, city, culture, and schools firsthand at her (taxpayer) expense and she's told she can't even say anything about it in public.

Anonymous Nxx November 30, 2015 11:08 AM  

@20. DanielCC

Vox has twice intermitted that there are ‘two’ options, the ‘minimise immigration and homogenise’ or the ‘surrender to an invading civilization’

VD is too kind; it's actually expulsion for them or extinction for us.

there would always remain a third option: to put a bullet through one's skull or to throw one's self on one's own sword. This may be the most honorable and the only moral way.

I agree entirely. Suicide is, yet again, and as always, the best option for SJW. The upcoming civil wars will feature nazis who want to kill SJW on one side and jihadists who want to kill SJW on the other. So the obvious strategic positioning for SJW in the conflict will be six feet below ground, the safest safe space of all.

Anonymous Bz November 30, 2015 11:09 AM  

"always remain a third option: to put a bullet through one's skull or to throw one's self on one's own sword. This may be the most honorable and the only moral way. "

In that case, hurry up and do it. You're not worth preserving.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 30, 2015 11:16 AM  

@56

I've been seeing a lot of bad things about how CSP conducts their research. Apparently they don't make use of many statistical controls, so there's no way to know how many respondents are actually Muslims and not trolls.

The Pew results are good enough to make your case though.

Anonymous Bz November 30, 2015 11:18 AM  

The term for that sort of people is Native in name only, isn't it?

Coon Rapids apologizes for this premature stoning. For reasons of health and safety, the stonee should be buried to her chest or even shoulders before stoning begins.

Blogger pyrrhus November 30, 2015 11:20 AM  

Actually, Bangladesh is 89% moslem, almost all Sunni, and they are ethnically cleansing Hindus and other dissident groups.

Anonymous Bz November 30, 2015 11:20 AM  

Hey SJWs and cucks, don't blame Cassandra for what's happening.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 30, 2015 11:21 AM  

third option: to put a bullet through one's skull or to throw one's self on one's own sword. This may be the most honorable

DanielCC, how is killing yourself more honorable than killing moslems to make the world a better place? Even if you are a horrible person please take some moslems with you to hell when you go. If you think hell is heaven for bad people, remember they will have their own section of hell so you can enjoy segregation. If you are actually thinking of killing yourself without taking moslems with you, I am obliged to tell you to look up QSR suicide prevention.

Anonymous Sanjuunichi November 30, 2015 11:22 AM  

Won't the same argument be made about Judaism?
If you search for "Jewish expulsions" it brings up a lot of countries also.

Blogger ncartist November 30, 2015 11:24 AM  

51. Roundtine
In the case of Obama, he may be the most out of touch American political leader....
Why do you assume Obama is out of touch? Why is it soooo hard to understand that this is his policy. You are as pathetic as the clueless Soviet citizens who, when faced with some new horror, always declared, "If only Stalin knew...."

OpenID Jack Amok November 30, 2015 11:31 AM  

Completely understandable concerns about Islamicization aside, random assaults on people who happen to share some characteristics with even very bad groups seems uncivilized to me. In fact, it is quite savage.

Yes Leo. That's the thing about diversity + proximity. It leads to savage behavior. If you're going to light the fuse, it's no damn good lecturing the dynamite about how rude it is to explode.

Getting them to leave the West will be the objective. There are different way to do that. Making them not feel safe is the second to last technique that will be employed. It doesn't have to get to that, but stupid policies are pushing us that direction. Faster and faster.

Blogger James Dixon November 30, 2015 11:33 AM  

> Tl;dr version: is there anything really worth saving?

Sliced bread, indoor plumbing, electricity, the Internet. Those are things I can think of off hand.

> Dragon fang

I'd say "Go away, Tad", but since Vox is bothering to respond that doesn't seem to be the case.

Blogger pdwalker November 30, 2015 11:33 AM  

The Europeans who fought for centuries to keep their lands free of Muslim invaders would be utterly astonished, and horrified, at the short-sighted idiocy of what passes for the West's leaders today.

VD, what makes you think it is idiocy rather than actual, deliberate treason? Look at Germany; I find it hard to accept that that many politicians are that stupid. It sure seems like deliberate enemy action to me.

OpenID basementhomebrewer November 30, 2015 11:39 AM  

This is just another narrative story for the media like the PP shooting. They will do whatever they can to attach their narrative to it.

It doesn't matter that it said the Muslim woman stood up and confronted them. What did she say or do when she confronted them? Those details are notably lacking. All we know is that a manager stepped in to break it up.

Personally, if the Muslim woman made a threat or said something along the lines of "all of your children will be speaking Arabic soon", I can understand why the drunk might have attacked her. I am not saying it was justified, but I can see how Muslim woman wasn't as innocent as she is being made out to be.

This seems like it could be a repeat of the Clockmed piece. The reality is likely that the Muslim woman did everything she could to purposely provoked the attack so that she could run to the media.

Blogger Bruce Edwards November 30, 2015 11:47 AM  

As an early Pope once said, "Death to the infidel Moor"

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 30, 2015 12:03 PM  

Matt Bracken has an excellent timely article. I highly recommend reading this:

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 30, 2015 12:03 PM  

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/bracken-tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 30, 2015 12:05 PM  

Hyperlink not working, second try:

Bracken: Tet, Take Two – Islam’s 2016 European Offensive

Blogger Danby November 30, 2015 12:05 PM  

@20 DanielCC
DO IT NOW FAGGOT!

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian November 30, 2015 12:11 PM  

@71 see @77

Blogger Derrick Bonsell November 30, 2015 12:15 PM  

I don't support vigilante justice. I do however believe that they shouldn't be allowed in anymore. In the 1800s Muslims from the Ottoman Empire immigrated to the US. They weren't welcome and most of them left within a few years. Most of the remainder converted to Christianity and assimilated.

Blogger BunE22 November 30, 2015 12:18 PM  

Burchard-Risch and her husband tell this muslim woman to speak English because this is America and then:

"Jama stood up and confronted the pair, and a loud argument ensued."

So Jama escalates the situation and she's portrayed as the victim. Why didn't she get up, go to the manager and tell him about the couple, ask for her group or the other people to be moved to a different table? Hmm.

Maybe she wanted to create a public display of Muslim victimhood?

Anonymous DT November 30, 2015 12:19 PM  

@20 ...I think the way contemporary Leftists approach Islam is viable or, ultimately, even likely to inspire respect from Islamic civilizations themselves.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Oh...wait...you were serious?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Anonymous One Man's Chorus November 30, 2015 12:19 PM  

In 2000, when Jama was 22, she moved to Minnesota to join relatives. She enrolled at Normandale Community College, but her mother got sick before she could finish her degree in social work. Now her own healing stands in the way of finishing her degree.

Why does the reader need to know this? When someone is assaulted in Minnesota, does the Star Tribune run a front-page story on how their injuries affect them?

Rather than report the fact that a woman was attacked in Applebees, the author wants the reader to sympathize with her. But why is she more deserving of sympathy than other assault victims?

There is no indication from the article that the incident is part of some wider spate of attacks on Muslims. A woman got drunk and hit the victim with a beer mug. So what? Stuff like that happens all the time in places that serve alcohol. This should be in the Star Tribune's police blotter, not on its front page.

Blogger Derrick Bonsell November 30, 2015 12:21 PM  

I don't support vigilante justice. I do however believe that they shouldn't be allowed in anymore. In the 1800s Muslims from the Ottoman Empire immigrated to the US. They weren't welcome and most of them left within a few years. Most of the remainder converted to Christianity and assimilated.

OpenID denektenorsk November 30, 2015 12:21 PM  

Muc like Vox points out with open borders, strict adherance to the values of tolerance and inclusiveness are doomed to eventual failure. At some point you will "include" so many people who do not adhere to or respect those values that you will be 'taken care of'.

At what point do people put their foot down and say they will not tolerate intolerance? Why do we import intolerance to women? Why do we import intolerance for homosexuals? The people advocating loudest and hardest for importing Muslim populations will be the ones who suffer most under their rule. On the other hand I have it on really good authority that Saudi Arabia is a paragon of human rights so maybe I'm over reacting...

Anonymous DT November 30, 2015 12:21 PM  

@71 VD, what makes you think it is idiocy rather than actual, deliberate treason? Look at Germany; I find it hard to accept that that many politicians are that stupid. It sure seems like deliberate enemy action to me.

Agreed. Can anyone look at the decisions made by Obama and Hillary and not conclude that they intended to weaken America and set the middle east on fire?

The idiocy can be found in droves among the media, the SJWs, etc. But at the top? There is intent.

Blogger Michael Maier November 30, 2015 12:22 PM  

BGS: If you click on the Indy Star article linked on your link, it gives the actual words the editor wrote.

I actually agree with him, "animals" is the wrong term. "Savages" is much better. Animals don't have a choice in being savage or not. Humans do.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch November 30, 2015 12:24 PM  

The marriage between militant atheism and militant Islam continues.

Just get it over with, and convert to Islam, atheists. You know you want to.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 30, 2015 12:32 PM  

Why does the reader need to know this? When someone is assaulted in Minnesota, does the Star Tribune run a front-page story on

When Apple CEO Timmy Cook cried about being denied gay wedding pizza, every cheap cucksucking bastard feared they wouldn't be able to cater their wedding for under $50.

Blogger Stilicho #0066 November 30, 2015 12:34 PM  

Invade the world/invite the world is truly a perfect neocon strategy: get patriotic Americans killed in various brushfire wars while importing enemy invaders to kill and wrest political control from patriotic Americans at home. The Learned Elders of The Weekly Standard must be really pleased.

Anonymous Train November 30, 2015 12:43 PM  

"I don't support vigilante justice"
Then you don't support justice. Justice is justice. You just don't like the method.

Blogger maniacprovost November 30, 2015 12:52 PM  

there are ‘two’ options ... or the ‘surrender to an invading civilization’... there would always remain a third option: to put a bullet through one's skull or to throw one's self on one's own sword.

Obviously I am developing Asperger's, because this has been bothering me. Can someone please explain how falling on your own sword in the face of an invading civilization is different than surrendering?

Blogger maniacprovost November 30, 2015 12:55 PM  

How are you doing, Train? Are you... well?

I would like to point out the conflation of "random assaults" with "Vigilante justice." It is possible that someone in this thread may have gotten confused. Although, for some reason, damnyankees usually seem to be more opposed to the latter than the former.

Blogger Robert Coble November 30, 2015 12:55 PM  

A small excerpt from the article to establish context:

As members of the group took their seats just after 9 p.m. — the adults in headscarves — Jama sensed a fellow diner eyeing her strangely.

Seated at the adjoining table behind a low rail was Jodie Burchard-Risch, a 43-year-old dental assistant from Ramsey with a history of assault, theft and drinking problems, according to court records.

As Jama’s group conversed in Swahili, one of three languages she speaks, they began to hear muttering behind them from Burchard-Risch and her husband.

The muttering soon turned into loud verbal jabs. “In America, we speak English,” the couple told Jama’s group. “Go home!”

Jama stood up and confronted the pair, and a loud argument ensued. The commotion brought restaurant managers. As they moved to eject Burchard-Risch, she threw a drink on Jama.

Then, according to police, Burchard-Risch swung her heavy glass beer mug “with a roundhouse punch-like motion” into Jama’s face.

Burchard-Risch fled as Jama stood, dazed and numb. Diners came to her aid. “You’re bleeding,” one man said, pressing napkins to her face.


1. Jama "sensed" emanations of "white privilege" associated with "those" people.

2. Jama and her group conversed in Swahili because they are all superior persons, capable of conversing in THREE languages, deliberately choosing to use one of those languages that allows them to say whatever derogatory things they want without getting called on it by the ignorant dhimmis.

3. Jama stood up and confronted the pair, and a loud argument ensued.

Totally innocent of any provocation, as far as the media is concerned.

Since the attack, Jama said, she’s become a shadow of her usual lively self. Ordinarily outgoing and bubbly, she said she is afraid to be alone. She doesn’t have an appetite. There’s a constant pain in the middle of her forehead, either from lack of sleep or bruises left by the beer mug.

Burchard-Risch, Jama said, “put fear in me that I never had. One minute we were laughing, ordering our drinks, then the next my young niece is crying and there’s blood all over my face. Just thinking about it makes me sick.”

She’s anxious and paranoid that there could be other attacks, she said: “What if people recognize me and feel the same way that [Burchard-Risch] feels?”


Does this sound like someone who is now fearful and timid and searching for the inner "safe space" of the Ummah? Perhaps it's just the first stage in establishing grounds to sue Applebees and Coon Rapids for millions because they failed to adequately protect her from those racissts. After all, if ClockBoy can demand $15 million for being questioned about a questionable clock, surely she is entitled to at least $100 million for the "constant pain in the middle of her forehead, either from lack of sleep or bruises left by the beer mug." That lack of sleep can be just as painful as bruises from a beer mug to the face.

What kind of drinks were they ordering? Please don't tell me that there was alcohol in them.

So much fun dissecting media reports, searching for that elusive grain of truth.

Anonymous Train November 30, 2015 1:07 PM  

@91
Heh, yeah I'm good. Been running with that name 'cause my kids been watching Tommy the reckless Welshman, but it works well now. Yankees didn't have any problem with vigilantism and other such methods when directed towards the South, so what's good the for the goose.

Anonymous The Original Hermit November 30, 2015 1:09 PM  

At some point you're not a victim of assault, you're just fighting. She just happened to lose the fight she started.

Also, the only thing wrong with vigilanteism (sp?), (which this isn't, it's just fighting) is that you're not necessarily guaranteed the defendant is actually guilty. In this case, the charge of being a Muslim outside the dar al Islam is as simple as determining if water is wet.

Anonymous Train November 30, 2015 1:29 PM  

"...is that you're not necessarily guaranteed the defendant is actually guilty"
This is also the case in a more formal court of justice. Vigilantism can serve those times when the formal court fails as well. And one can always judge the vigilante through a formal trial as well. It's not simply one and done.

Anonymous Cyclone Bob November 30, 2015 1:37 PM  

BGS: I think I will set up a go fund me site for $1million to change the name of Coon Rapids. 

If you change it to Nigger Rapids I think you could raise alot more than 1 mil.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 30, 2015 1:38 PM  

@86 Having gotten the insanity of the church of my birth out of my head, I'm not about to replace it with the ravings of a murderous pedophile.  Further, if you say something like that to my face in public you may get a hot lead enema (depending how threatening you are when you say it).

Anonymous Philalethes November 30, 2015 1:43 PM  

...Hindu countries like India and Bangladesh as well, where innocent Muslim minorities who ain't never done nothing to nobody are also violently oppressed....

Just to get it straight: Bangladesh is most emphatically not a Hindu country, as it was originally carved out of the eastern half of the ancient Indian province and artistic heartland of Bengal (Ravi Shankar was born there) during the Great Partition as the eastern part of Pakistan ("Land of the Pure"), when India was divided so the Muslims could have their own country. (Millions died in the resulting upheavals and population transfers.) Later, as a testament to the "peace" of Islam, East Pakistan fought a bitter war (aided by India) to separate from West Pakistan (now simply Pakistan), and so became Bangladesh (Bengali State).

The linked article is about the Rohingya, a Muslim minority in next-door Burma (Myanmar) who are being hard-pressed by the Burmese, from whom they differ not only in religion (pretty much all other people in Myanmar are Buddhist; the saying goes "To be Burmese is to be Buddhist"), but also in language (the Rohingya language is Indo-European, closely related to Bengali, while Burmese is related to Tibetan and Chinese) and other elements of culture.

The Rohingya, who are not many, don't appear to have done anything specific to make them unwelcome in Myanmar (they are of course being used by the Burmese power structure to incite the populace), but they don't really belong there, and would be better off in Bangladesh, which is nearly 90% Muslim – but unfortunately Bangladesh doesn't seem to see it that way. So the Rohingya are indeed an oppressed Muslim minority, unwelcome where they are but apparently unable to move next door where they would fit in much better.

Of course, it isn't like Bangladesh has a lot of extra empty space – it's basically a huge swamp (much of which will be underwater soon if the global warmers have it right) with an already huge population who seem – like all the third world – to be applying the bacterial strategy of species survival, i.e. breed as fast as you can and let evolution sort it out.

Blogger Unknown November 30, 2015 1:49 PM  

Has someone set up a go fund me account to reward the brawling Jodi? Anything which makes mohammadens feel unsafe should be rewarded.

Blogger Danby November 30, 2015 1:51 PM  

The purpose of a system of courts and criminal laws is to obviate feuds, vigilantism, and personal justice. People denied justice will resort to other means. Why do so many drug deals gone bad end up in shooting? Because drug dealers have no recourse to the courts. Libel law was intended to, and did, replace the code duello. Were the courts to abrogate libel and slander laws, duels would rather quickly become common. As the courts become further removed from rendering justice, they will be replaced by more impromptu, personal methods of resolving disputes.

@97 Mr Rational
Your relationship with your mother is not the topic.

Blogger Dago November 30, 2015 2:58 PM  

DanielCC,
Clearly not for you. Go ahead and off yourself then.

Anonymous Ed November 30, 2015 3:04 PM  

With regard to 'do you're own research'. Perfectly reasonable but was wondering if anyone had any pointers towards any good resources or authors / resources or authors to avoid for someone looking to brush up on their history. Not strong on history other tha. WW2 and am interested in brushing up.

Anonymous Roundtine November 30, 2015 3:15 PM  

@68
Why do you assume Obama is out of touch? Why is it soooo hard to understand that this is his policy. You are as pathetic as the clueless Soviet citizens who, when faced with some new horror, always declared, "If only Stalin knew...."?

I don't care about a leader being "in touch" in the sense of representing the will of the people. I'm speaking strictly in the sense of the public not liking what you're doing to the point where they will rebel. If you want to destroy America, your goal is amnesty. You should support lots of enforcement BS and security theater in order to mollify the public and get your amnesty shoved through. Which is exactly what the Rubios and cuckservatives of the world were supposed to do, provide the fig leaf of enforcement. Obama's strategy only works if there's no backlash, and the harder he pushes, the higher Trump's poll numbers go. Meanwhile in Europe, formerly joke parties like AfD are now becoming serious contenders due to migrant policies. That is some seriously stupid politics from the ruling elite and it is because they are so far out of touch that they don't know what ordinary people are thinking. This is pretty rare in the West and has historically resulted in regime change in one form or another.

Blogger Kirk Parker November 30, 2015 4:37 PM  

Elocutioner @ 43,

"I'll note that you won't see too many stories about moslems speaking out against violence towards Christians by the mythical "moderate" moslem."

Oh, there are plenty of such moderates, especially here in the US. I've met some of them. (Among them, the hard-drinking Turkish-American army vet who, during GW 1 was tasked by his brigade commander with escorting some American Muslim converts (mostly AA) to a little pilgrimage during an extended liberty. Whoa... the dopes almost got themselves killed--my friend's account reminded me of Richard Burton's clandestine entry into Mecca in some ways.)

The problem is, our major media doesn't care about them, and doesn't give them any air/ink/bit-play. Instead, they go to the likes of unindicted-terrorist-conspirator CAIR. It's almost enough to make you believe what Vox and others (e.g. the linked article by Matthew Bracken) are saying about a concerted effort to make all this happen...

Anonymous FrankNorman November 30, 2015 4:55 PM  

91. maniacprovost November 30, 2015 12:52 PM

Obviously I am developing Asperger's, because this has been bothering me. Can someone please explain how falling on your own sword in the face of an invading civilization is different than surrendering?


Suicide means you won't get taken alive. They don't have to kill you, but they also don't get to kill you. Or to enslave you. Because you've already said "That's it, I'm out!", taken your ball and gone home.

It might not make much different from the point-of-view of anyone else in your country though.

Anonymous Reader November 30, 2015 5:39 PM  

Dragon Fang
@ 28 What Caliphate? Does it have the support of legal Islamic scholarship.........


Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the ISIS leader, has an actual PhD in Islamic Studies and Theology.

D F @11 Does an individual Muslim bring war or does an Islamic state bring war? Can you bring reliable study citation that all Muslims who exists in the US are conspiring to conquer and rule, rather than say get an education?

If mathematics is logic and seeking out patterns, Lubos Motl on his The reference Frame blog, has worked it out for you.

Many people who have been ambiguous about the immigration policies have realized that our warnings weren't just some demagogic fearmongering. There are enormous risks to the security and the economy associated with the mass immigration.

Just some basic numbers. Among the 500+ million Europeans, there are some 40 million Muslims. About 1 million Muslims have arrived to the continent in 2015. Because there were 8 Muslims directly involved in the mass murders, we could say that if each Muslim in Europe had the same probability to commit a similar act, you would expect about 8/40 = 1/5 Muslims to participate on the Friday 13th events. The actual number was much higher. At least one but quite possibly, more than 50% of those 8 people.



Anonymous Mr. Rational November 30, 2015 6:30 PM  

@101 Your relationship with your mother is not the topic.

A moderated comment was inserted after I posted; I meant to reference (what is now) @87.  This is what I get for just citing a comment number instead of quoting text.

Upon examination, it looks like your reference has the same off-by-one so you posted before the insertion occurred.  I believe the correct response is "go screw yourself".

Blogger Takin' a Look November 30, 2015 9:09 PM  

@ Kirk Parker

Yes, it very much does seem to be a concerted effort to paint all musloids in as worst a light as possible while clamping down on all dissent regarding massive islamic migration into the West.

We tend to assume the Elites are all united in every aspect of policy, no, they are all united in their undying hatred of the White West. Many know EXACTLY what they are doing, others are genuine shitlibs and cuckservatives.

Think of the troll scene in The Hobbit after the captured the Dwarves and Bilbo. They endlessly bickered amongst themselves, but all agreed...

"We are going to eat them"

Blogger Takin' a Look November 30, 2015 9:15 PM  

@ Kirk Parker

Yes, it very much does seem to be a concerted effort to paint all musloids in as worst a light as possible while clamping down on all dissent regarding massive islamic migration into the West.

We tend to assume the Elites are all united in every aspect of policy, no, they are all united in their undying hatred of the White West. Many know EXACTLY what they are doing, others are genuine shitlibs and cuckservatives.

Think of the troll scene in The Hobbit after the captured the Dwarves and Bilbo. They endlessly bickered amongst themselves, but all agreed...

"We are going to eat them"

Blogger The Original Hermit November 30, 2015 10:58 PM  

@96 There's a lot to be said for the "shoot, shovel, shut-up" method. Also, there have been many cases where (for example) the father of a murdered/raped daughter enacted retribution on the perpetrator before the courts were able to have their say, and the local police chose not to prosecute the vigilante. It's definitely not a guarantee, and I would prefer I knew beforehand if the cops were gonna roll over on me. There will be a time on the future where Muslims aren't guaranteed protection under the law. At least in some parts of the country.

Blogger Phelps November 30, 2015 11:17 PM  

Make them follow their own rules.

If a Muslim woman goes to a bar without a male relative, she's asking to get hit in the face with a beer mug. That's how Islam works.

OpenID Jack Amok December 01, 2015 12:10 AM  

what makes you think it is idiocy rather than actual, deliberate treason?

Why not both? Deliberate treason can be idiotic too, especially when it involves selling out the people who put you in power to people who will throw you out of power as soon as they can.

Dermot MacMurragh's invitation of the Norman's into Ireland was certainly idiocy, and Rory O'Connor probably thought it treason as well.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 01, 2015 12:37 AM  

@20 DanielCC

I don't agree with the sentiments here expressed about Islam/Muslims in Europe or the US or whatever, though by the same token I think the way contemporary Leftists approach Islam is viable or, ultimately, even likely to inspire respect from Islamic civilizations themselves.

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What's the CC stand for, Camel Clutch?

Blogger Dragon fang December 01, 2015 1:23 AM  

As I said, you are ignorant. That is not what a caliphate is, especially not according to Muslim doctrine. To be caliph, a Muslim must be a Muslim adult man of Quraysh descent; exhibiting moral probity and physical and mental integrity; and having ’amr, or authority over territory where Islamic Law is in effect. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been the commander of all Muslims since June 29, 2014, when the Caliphate was proclaimed.

Not all Muslims recognize him yet, just as many Muslims drink alcohol, but he is the legitimate Caliph by their doctrine and an orthodox Muslim knows that "to die without pledging baya’a (allegiance) is to die jahil (ignorant) and therefore die a death of disbelief.”


Lol, refuting you is so easy: Could there be multiple caliphates or can there only be a single caliphate?
The caliphate being from Quraish is more complimentary rather than a requirement as the Ottoman Caliphate is seen as legitimate.

Caliphate Umar bin al Khattab said: Whosoever pledges allegiance to a man without due consultation with Muslims has fooled himself; and neither he nor the man to whom he pledged allegiance should be followed for he has risked both their lives.’

Can you cite any licensed scholar that al Baghdadi have been commander of the Muslims? You know, from the schools of thoughts that were formed from the first century of Islam?

You are dependent upon circular logic. Either you are claiming that a caliphate is a leader of a certain rebellious militia group who can declare more than 99% of Muslims non-Muslims, or they are not a caliphate but a wanna-be Islamic state wanting to be a caliphate.

Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 1:44 AM  

@ Dragon Fang

So what makes a "Legitimate Caliphate" vis a vis us Dar al Harb? Whatever you or any other musloid say the f*ck it is? Sorry, like the your brethren the Jews who like to expound on "When Israel is Mighty"

WE.DON'T.CARE.

Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 1:47 AM  

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Blogger rho December 01, 2015 2:26 AM  

We don't care has been overtaken by the train is fine. Update your database accordingly.

Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 2:45 AM  

@ rho

Duly noted.

Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 3:09 AM  

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Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 3:10 AM  

Sorry for the double-posts folks.

Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 3:11 AM  

Sorry for the double-posts folks.

Blogger rho December 01, 2015 3:26 AM  

This is what a double secret, double entendre internet troll looks like.

Also, go fuck yourself.

Blogger Takin' a Look December 01, 2015 3:53 AM  

@ rho

Me?

Okay......so Barbara Lerner Spectre isn't a typical example of your Red Sea Pedestrian Tribe....

So what? As Brigette Gabriel stated....the moderate sayanim amongst you are completely f*cking irrelevant!

Blogger Cail Corishev December 01, 2015 7:05 AM  

Lol, refuting you is so easy:

I wasn't going to believe you, but the carefree laughter convinced me you must be right.

Blogger borderwalker December 01, 2015 9:03 AM  

Refugees from a Muslim-majority Third World country torn by civil war? Let’s see what history has to tell us.

The Somali civil war started in 1991. Somali refugees have come in a steady stream for 25 years since.

http://www.startribune.com/6-facing-terror-charges-over-isil-plans-don-t-fit-stereotypes/301625671/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/terrorism-probe-yields-six-arrests-u-s-authorities-say-1429518994

According to a September report of the House Homeland Security Committee task force on combatting terrorist and foreign fighter travel, Minnesota leads the country in contributing foreign fighters to ISIS… of more than 250 Americans who had traveled to join ISIS, the task force found that 26 percent of them came from Minnesota.”: http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/threat-minnesota-men/1070597?nopager=1

From the LA Times:

Federal law enforcement officials say they have been tracing other U.S. residents traveling abroad, specifically Somali Americans from Minnesota who have gone to fight in that country. They are also watching several individuals identified soon after the Sept. 11 attacks, such as half a dozen men from the Buffalo suburb of Lackawanna, N.Y., who trained at an Al Qaeda facility in Afghanistan.

[FBI Director James] Comey says these suspects are always the most difficult to identify and stop. He suggests it is all the more challenging today because Al Qaeda has been ‘metastasizing’ into splinter groups in Iraq, Syria and Libya.

Although the FBI previously had ‘great success’ against Al Qaeda in the group’s traditional Afghanistan-Pakistan region, he said, ‘in the ungoverned or poorly governed spaces in Africa and around the Middle East, we see a resurgence of Al Qaeda affiliates’.
”: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-alqaeda-threat-20140119-story.html#axzz2qwNB5IB1

Nothing adds to the discussion like data.


Blogger David December 02, 2015 2:34 PM  

When seated with your drinking buddies nearby a group of muslims I recommend a happy and joyous rendition of the 'Colonel Boogie March' with these words:

Ali
has only got one ball
Hussein
has two but they are small
Gamel's
are like a camel's
but
Mohammed has no balls at all

Please feel free to add verses.

Ought to get the whine fest off to a good start.

Anonymous Boris December 07, 2015 10:29 PM  

So all Muslims are trying to conquer and rule by...taking jobs as doctors and starting businesses? Terrifying. Perhaps we should assault them after all.

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