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Saturday, November 07, 2015

Politico admits Carson didn't lie

Not about West Point, at any rate.
Politico‘s Kyle Cheney admitted that he fabricated a negative story about Ben Carson. At least, according to his own standards, he admitted the grievous journalistic sin.

In a story published early on Friday, Politico’s Kyle Cheney authored a piece headlined “Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship” with a subhed “Carson’s campaign on Friday conceded that a central point in his inspirational personal story did not occur as he previously described.”

There were at least five major problems with the story:
  •  The headline was completely false
  •  The subhed was also completely false
  •  The opening paragraph was false false false
  •  The substance of the piece was missing key exonerating information
  •  The article demonstrated confusion about service academy admissions and benefits
Some of the readers here were upset that I linked to a news piece without doing any due diligence concerning whether it was true or not. To them, I can only suggest that they avoid reading every single post here that contains a link, because I don't ever do any due diligence on any link.

I am responsible for my own words. I am no more responsible for the words on a linked site than I am responsible for your comments on this one. I had no more reason to doubt that Dr. Carson said something stupid about his past than I have to doubt that he said something stupid about the Egyptian pyramids. Perhaps Politico made that up too. I don't know because I am not the News Police.

Tom K asks why I would denigrate Dr. Carson:
I'm wishing you could explain why you would denigrate a man who is, as far as I can tell from the fact that the media hasn't been able to trash his medical credentials, a truly inspiring black man who exercised the discipline necessary to become a fucking brain surgeon and an expert at separating conjoined twins.
Because he wants to be President of the United States of America. I wouldn't have a word to say against him if he was content to continue being a surgeon or if he took up professional knitting. But I'd rather not see another affirmative-action anti-gun intellectually overmatched individual at the head of the US government in what are all but certain to be unusually interesting times.

Also, unlike many, I do not find inspiration in black individuals who manage to do what white people have already done. I wasn't impressed by Herman Cain being a chairman of a regional Fed bank either. Fair or not, all accomplishments by black individuals will remain intrinsically dubious so long as affirmative action is a U.S. government policy.
Sometimes the vile hatred spewed out in the things I read on this site, posts and comments, turns my stomach. I don't understand it. It makes no sense. What the fuck has Ben Carson ever done to hurt you? He's got ideas you don't like. Yeah. So? Argue the facts. Point out where he's wrong. Hatred and contempt should be reserved for those with contemptible motives and evil goals.
Just because it doesn't make sense to you does not mean it doesn't make sense. Ben Carson's motives are contemptible: he wants to rule over us despite being utterly unfit in almost every way. And Ben Carson has evil goals; he is absolutely wrong on both immigration and guns, the only two issues that matter. He absolutely merits contempt. The only reason he's been treated with kid gloves until now is because he is a) black and b) as this campaign's Token Black Republican Candidate, no one has been taking him seriously.

Stephen St. Onge doesn't appear to have paid attention to previous elections:
Lots of you believed this Politico lie because you were pre-disposed to believe something bad about Carson. Which means you have typical human weaknesses. Try to overcome them.
It is admittedly possible that something legitimately disqualifying won't surface about Carson by the time he ends his campaign. But the history of Token Black Republican Candidates strongly suggests otherwise.

Meanwhile, Phelps demonstrates that he doesn't know what an SJW is:
Accepting any story from Politico was a serious own-goal. You get a soccer metaphor for acting like a SJW. I hope to see this embarrassment put you back onto your game.
Again, Politico is responsible for their error. Not me. If I were to stop linking to sites I know to have posted erroneous original material, I would not be able to link anywhere except Castalia House and iSteve. Phelps should give up the retarded rhetoric; also, he is fat. Sorry, no offense, but it's true.

Meanwhile, for those who are seeking a more substantive reason to hold Ben Carson in contempt, the Token Black Republican Candidate helpfully provided it yesterday. Although perhaps I should not post this, given what I already know about the Wall Street Journal's propensity for falsehoods:
Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson said Friday that he supports the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement negotiated by the White House – aligning himself more with the GOP’s establishment wing than with the social conservatives who have powered his campaign.

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110 Comments:

Blogger Josh November 07, 2015 5:52 AM  

And Ben Carson has evil goals; he is absolutely wrong on both immigration and guns, the only two issues that matter.

Back in the summer (July iirc), you had included the Fed with those two as the only three issues that matter. Has anything changed since?

Blogger Josh November 07, 2015 5:56 AM  

Here's a roundup of where the GOP candidates stand on TPP.

Blogger Dave November 07, 2015 6:10 AM  

Josh, I have to ask if you did your due diligence concerning whether that news piece you linked to was true or not? I'm just sayin

Blogger Josh November 07, 2015 6:16 AM  

I had no more reason to doubt that Dr. Carson said something stupid about his past than I have to doubt that he said something stupid about the Egyptian pyramids.

Every Civilization player knows that building the pyramids gives you a free granary in each city.

Carson doesn't strike me as much of a gamer, though.

Blogger VD November 07, 2015 6:17 AM  

Back in the summer (July iirc), you had included the Fed with those two as the only three issues that matter. Has anything changed since?

No, I just don't know where Carson stands on the Fed.

Anonymous Rick Johnsmeyer November 07, 2015 6:18 AM  

I doubt Carson is familiar enough with the landscape of American political policy to have coherent opinions about very much of it.

For example, his call a few weeks ago for a no-fly zone over Syria to protect the "moderate" terrorists from Russian bombardment. I doubt that was a policy conclusion he reached through the context of his pre-existing knowledge of Mideastern affairs. It was a cut-and-paste job borrowed from the other campaigns. I doubt Carson (like Rubio, or Fiorina) has the depth of geopolitical understanding to coherently defend that position.

The fact that Carson is leading the GOP polls in Iowa and other states is as much an indictment of a foolish and unserious electorate as it is of himself, though. So much of this seems driven by that longstanding cuckservative impulse to burnish one's credentials as a "non-racist," and for bonus points to call your opponents the "real" racists.

Anonymous Takin' a Look November 07, 2015 6:20 AM  

Funny, listening to bantu singers this morn.

No Mirrors

Great Crested Eagle

Honey Bee

Anonymous DissidentRight November 07, 2015 6:26 AM  

A year ago I would have agreed with all those other commenters. But now I agree 100% with Vox. Carson, nice guy. Doesn't have the slightest business running for President.

It's hard to shed tears when the establishment lies about an establishment candidate, especially when Trump is an option.

Blogger Josh November 07, 2015 6:28 AM  

No, I just don't know where Carson stands on the Fed.

I just found the transcript of an interview he did with marketplace.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/full-interview-dr-ben-carson-economy

We bring that forward to modern day today's dollars, and that's the fiscal gap, which sits at over $200 trillion and is continuing to grow. Now the only reason that we can sustain that kind of debt is because of our artificial ability to print money, to create what we think is wealth, but it is not wealth, because it's based upon our faith and credit. You know, we decoupled it from the domestic gold standard in 1933, and from the international gold standard in 1971, and since that time, it's not based on anything. Why would we be continuing to do that?


On the Fed and Yellen:

Ryssdal: I'd quibble with you there, sir, and talk about the financial crisis and what that did to GDP growth, but let's move on once again. Since you brought her up, what do you think of Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve?

Carson: Well, you know, I've known Janet Yellen for a long time. We've served on boards together, and she's a very intelligent individual, very responsible, and obviously is trying to do what she thinks is right. But she's caught between a rock and a hard place, and I understand that. And that's why I would tend to really put the emphasis on driving down our debt, because that's how we begin to correct the problem. You know, unless we correct the fundamental problems, all the other stuff we're doing isn't going to matter that much.

Blogger Josh November 07, 2015 6:33 AM  

However, from this Forbes interview:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2015/01/28/dr-ben-carson-weighs-in-on-washington-and-the-federal-reserve/

Dr. Ben Carson: There are both good and bad things about the Fed. It certainly is a stabilizing force for financial markets and has been helpful in averting panic in many situations. The big problem today is that its artificial suppression of interest rates through monetary policies changes circumstances that people used to count on for retirement and small business opportunities. When reasonable interest rates were in place, a person could work steadily for decades putting aside 5 to 10% of their weekly income into a retirement account and expect a reasonable return. That is no longer the case and many people who were formerly hard-working and self-sufficient are looking for other ways to ensure their long-term security. Furthermore, with such low interest rates, banks have no real incentive to make loans to individuals and small businesses. The interest rate of return is so low that they are likely to focus their efforts on much larger transactions. We need to enact Fed policies that take these situations into account.

Blogger Dave November 07, 2015 6:37 AM  

re the TPP here is a quote from Jane Kelsey, a law professor at New Zealand’s Auckland University and a long time critic of the TPP:
"It's time for the post-Atlanta debate to focus on the substance, which requires release of the text and the background documents, and for the parties to revoke their secrecy pact to keep negotiating documents secret for four years after the agreement comes into force."

Really, why would people be so concerned about a trade agreement that keeps everything under wraps up to four years after it comes into effect. Why it's almost as if we don't trust them or something.

Blogger Josh November 07, 2015 6:40 AM  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/05/we-made-president-obamas-big-tpp-trade-deal-searchable/

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 07, 2015 6:51 AM  

VD

Also, unlike many, I do not find inspiration in black individuals who manage to do what white people have already done

Wasn't Carson thefirstperson to ever successfully separate cranially conjoined twins?

Blogger Dave November 07, 2015 6:54 AM  

TPP Will Try to Limit the Freedom of the Press. The TPP is also going after journalists or whistleblowers who gain “unauthorized, willful access to a trade secret held in a computer system”.

It is mandatory for each national signatory to enforce “criminal procedures and penalties” against anyone who accesses any said trade secrets.

Australian newspaper The Age puts it this way: "The draft text provides that TPP countries will introduce criminal penalties for unauthorized access to, misappropriation or disclosure of trade secrets, defined as information that has commercial value because it is secret, by any person using a computer system."

“Under the terms of the text,” BoingBoing reports, “countries in the TPP can force each other to suspend legal proceedings if the trial would cause embarrassing information -- information ‘detrimental to a party’s economic interests, international relations, or national defense or national security’ -- would come to light. That would be the Wikileaks/Snowden clause.”

Also, upcoming copyright laws could outlaw people from linking to news stories.

Last week, Matt Drudge of the Drudge Report said this in an interview with InfoWars: “I had a Supreme Court Justice tell me it’s over for me. ‘They’ve got the votes now to enforce copyright law, you’re out of there. They’re going to make it so you can’t even use headlines.’

“To have a Supreme Court Justice say to me it’s over, they’ve got the votes, which means time is limited. That will end it for me -- fine -- I’ve had a hell of a run.”

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 7:15 AM  

"Lots of you believed this Politico lie because you were pre-disposed to believe something bad about Carson. Which means you have typical human weaknesses. Try to overcome them."

I was predisposed to believe that politicians might be lying.
I was also predisposed to believe that journalists might be lying.

These predispositions come from empirical experience, a human strength, and have nothing to do with Dr. Carson and what I may or may not be predisposed to think of him personally.

Blogger Dave November 07, 2015 7:16 AM  

Dammit Josh you just shot my weekend to hell... here it is on Medium: https://medium.com/the-trans-pacific-partnership

Blogger Salt November 07, 2015 7:20 AM  

People will argue about this one way or another. Perhaps the truth is recoverable off of Hillary's server. In light news, "Yes, They’re Really Developing a Movie Based on Blowey Zoe’s Memoirs"

Blogger Cail Corishev November 07, 2015 7:31 AM  

Is there a noted black conservative in American politics? I don't mean a Republican; I mean an actual conservative who ticks off all the major conservative planks that we take for granted from white conservatives: yes on gun ownership, no on abortion, yes on smaller government, yes on national borders (some promotion of legal immigration falling in the mainstream definition of "conservative"), no on most foreign aid, yes on religion, no on funding for art, no on voting for Democrats when they happen to be black....

I'm not aware of any. Sure, there are black Republicans who are conservative on most economic and military matters, but then you find out they're squishy on guns and welfare and crossed the lines to vote for Obama. They're liberal Republicans at best, so what's the point from a conservative (or libertarian) perspective, other than the get-out-of-racism-free card?

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 7:53 AM  

" . . . but then you find out they're squishy on guns . . ."

Of all the things that I do not understand, blacks and Jews who are anti-gun are pretty high up on the list.

Does no one remember Warsaw?

Anonymous Leonidas November 07, 2015 7:53 AM  

I'm just thinking about how stunningly well things wen the last time we elected a highly educated, political outsider, relatively inexperienced, "nice guy" from Georgia. I mean, how bad could it be?

Blogger Stilicho #0066 November 07, 2015 7:55 AM  

Carson: anti-gun, open borders, tranny. Jeb must have a serious man-crush.

Blogger Scalpellum Ferreum November 07, 2015 8:04 AM  

@ 13 Wasn't Carson the first person to ever successfully separate cranially conjoined twins?

That qualifies him to be a brain surgeon, not President of the United States.

Anonymous Anonymous November 07, 2015 8:05 AM  

#18 He's out of politics at the moment, but former congressman LTC West meets your requirements, IIRC. He's got balls and knows how to actually fight a war to win it. Unfortunately for the Kumbaya Abteilungen, it seems he's the remarkable exception that proves the rule. - Nicolò Arminius

Blogger Phillip George November 07, 2015 8:07 AM  

deck chairs on the Titanic.
And the MSM have covered the Gulf of Tonkin, Oklahoma Murrah building, Waco, Sandy Hook, 911, MH17, MH 370, they've covered the USS Liberty, David Kelly's death, Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, they've covered the Tianjin explosion, the Bali Bombing, ISIS supply lines, the President's birth certificate,

why heck, I consider us all to be well read. All those fair and balanced articles and all.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 07, 2015 8:19 AM  

Of all the things that I do not understand, blacks and Jews who are anti-gun are pretty high up on the list.

The explanation for blacks is easy: if you're black, even a wealthy, white-collar black man living in a gated community, you almost certainly have relatives and friends-of-friends who are engaged in serious criminal activities. The numbers just work out that way. Or like Obama, you see the mugshot of a young black man and think that could be your son, or, "There but for the grace of God...."

The more private gun owners there are, and the more they're allowed to defend themselves and their property, the higher the chance that those young black men you care about are going to be shot and killed. It's not that you want them to get away with their crimes, but you'd really rather they were stopped some other way and rehabilitated somehow. It's not a logical position, obviously, but a very strong emotional one coming from the fact that, as Sailer says, a race is an extended family.

Blogger Doom November 07, 2015 8:21 AM  

Say it again, Sam. More? If Politico lied one way, or is now thought to have, who is to say they aren't lying in the other direction now? Perhaps Clinton would rather run against Carson (though... probably not, being what black men tend to do to her), or the Dem party would rather have him win (since he is a traitor to conservative notions that count... they can't lose with Carson in).

It's funny watching the moderates hop from foot to foot trying to defend a non-conservative Republican candidate. Eat dirt and puff out the brown smoke... or die. I like die better.

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 8:45 AM  

" . . . race is an extended family."

Ya ever try to explain to a 20 something, American weaboo why the Japanese won't accept them as Japanese, even though they've been living in Japan for almost two years now.

If you haven't, save your breath and energy. They are incapable of getting it. The Yamato do.

Anonymous Homesteader November 07, 2015 8:56 AM  

A simple litmus test:

If Carson were white, would you:

1. Support his candidacy
2. Care if he was criticized
3. Think his career noteworthy

If the answer is no......

Blogger YIH November 07, 2015 8:56 AM  

VD:
No, I just don't know where Carson stands on the Fed.
Same here, my guess is he probably knows little about it at all. He likely knows Janet Yellen is the Capo dei capi of the Federal Reserve crime family and that's all.
I doubt he even knows there's a caporegime in Kansas City (Cain of course does).
I don't blame Vox for what he links, it often isn't easy to vet links, when Hartiste posted this not only did I believe it I assumed it came from People of Walmart (the walmart 'freak of the day'). Turns out it came from a hoax site that strongly resembles a typical local TV station website.
Another reason is how fast things move on the 'net; remember the McBeating a tranny got at the paws of several chimps? Many (including myself and the cops that responded to that) believed it was a woman. It wasn't until about two days later that word came from the hospital ''she'' was taken to that it was ''nope, male''.
That said, even when it was assumed accurate I said that I doubt it would make any difference, now for Carson it's a net positive. He can legitimately say he got slimed. I doubt he'll make use of it though, his personality suggests he'll just move on from it.

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 07, 2015 9:07 AM  

That qualifies him to be a brain surgeon, not President of the United States.

No one said it did. Re-read the statement I was responding to.

OpenID anonymos-coward November 07, 2015 9:17 AM  

The only reason he's been treated with kid gloves until now is because he is a) black and b) as this campaign's Token Black Republican Candidate
Eh, no. The reason is that he's the only candidate that is both not a professional politician and a Christian. (Well, 'Christian' according to the debased standards of what passes for Christianity in the New World. Still, better than outright satanism or gnosticism, I guess.)

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 07, 2015 9:27 AM  

Kettle calling the pot black. A, thanks God for small joys.

O'Reilly vs. George Will: "You're A Hack," A "Reagan Loyalist" Who Doesn't Want The Truth To Be Told

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/06/oreilly_vs_george_will_youre_a_hack_a_reagan_loyalist_who_doesnt_want_the_truth_to_be_told.html

Those two deserve each other.

Blogger J Melcher November 07, 2015 9:27 AM  

VD: "en Carson's motives are contemptible: he wants to rule over us despite being utterly unfit in almost every way. "

Well, I am not a mind reader (or soul reader) so I don't know whether that's so or not. On the other hand, if so, it's not very different from most of the other candidates for that particular office. Both parts: "wanting to rule" and "utterly unfit". I'm inclined to support the first part tends to prove the last part.

There may, theoretically, be people who want the job to prevent others from having it. Were I solely empowered to award the position to the candidates now offered (Walker having dropped off the list) I'd be inclined to give it to Trump before HRC, and Carson before Trump. Of course, I'd be inclined to give it to Sanders before HRC, from admiration of consistancy if no better reason. The caveat remains that a cardinal ordering of such preferences from the bottom up should not be taken as endorsement of the top turd on the pile of horse droppings.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 07, 2015 9:28 AM  

Politico‘s Kyle Cheney has been fired right???

And will face punishment for lying right???


Surely he will......

Blogger YIH November 07, 2015 9:41 AM  

@19 kfg:
Of all the things that I do not understand, blacks and Jews who are anti-gun are pretty high up on the list.

Does no one remember Warsaw?

They most certainly do, that's why they want to be the ones taking away the guns, while they pay security services (or commandeer police/military) to make sure the goyim can't rise up against them as they did in Germany.

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 9:55 AM  

@YIH: You are talking about pro gun control ruling elites who want the blacks disarmed.

I am talking about anti-gun Jews. Jews who piss themselves if the thought "gun" even enters their heads, it's just so scary.

Pajama Boy's last name is Krupp. Ohhhhhhhhhhh, the irony.

Blogger VD November 07, 2015 9:59 AM  

Eh, no. The reason is that he's the only candidate that is both not a professional politician and a Christian.

Eh, yes. Every Token Black Republican Candidate gets the same treatment. Kid gloves from the GOP establishment until it's time to DQ them and send their support to the establishment candidate.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 07, 2015 10:02 AM  

Fetishizing the "Other" is for the goyimkopf or silly child like people, its frankly embarrassing.

Blogger Matamoros November 07, 2015 10:05 AM  

@28

1. No
2. No
3. No

Blogger Harsh November 07, 2015 10:14 AM  

@23

Margaret Cho is calling for you on a different thread.

Blogger Desiderius November 07, 2015 10:27 AM  

Vox,

Acknowledgement appreciated.

Respect reciprocated.

"Every Civilization player knows that building the pyramids gives you a free granary in each city."

"Kumbaya Abteilungen"

+2


Blogger Desiderius November 07, 2015 10:30 AM  

"If Carson were white, would you:

1. Support his candidacy
2. Care if he was criticized
3. Think his career noteworthy"

1. Don't support his candidacy while black, irrelevant
2. Criticism not the issue
3. Who doesn't?

Look, this is great opportunity to disqualify the most immediate enemy, the corrupt and incompetent Pravda press. Focus fire where the enemy is vulnerable. If Vox is right about Carson, he'll take care of himself in due time.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 10:36 AM  

@2 Josh
Here's a roundup of where the GOP candidates stand on TPP.
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Really? A link to CNBC XD

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 10:40 AM  

@7 Takin' a Look
Found this gem in the brietbart comments section last night:

Latino for Trump

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 10:47 AM  

@18 Cail Corishev
Is there a noted black conservative in American politics? I don't mean a Republican; I mean an actual conservative who ticks off all the major conservative planks that we take for granted from white conservatives: yes on gun ownership, no on abortion, yes on smaller government, yes on national borders (some promotion of legal immigration falling in the mainstream definition of "conservative"), no on most foreign aid, yes on religion, no on funding for art, no on voting for Democrats when they happen to be black....

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Herman Cain, but he is no longer in politics.

Blogger guest November 07, 2015 10:54 AM  

I like Carson because he is a social conservative, who has been faithful to his biblical beliefs. He is the only politician who has defended Creationism, and he has endured the same nasty name-calling and scorn from evolutionists that those of us who have defended the Genesis account online have. Carson even got the attention and wrath of Richard Dawkins on that. So I like Ben Carson. I also like Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee. And I will vote for anyone of these three. I will not vote for Donald Trump. He is not a social conservative, and thus he does not have my best interest at heart. If that is who Republicans want to put up against Clinton, that is their free-will choice. It's just that they are going to do so without my help.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 10:58 AM  

"Some of the readers here were upset that I linked to a news piece without doing any due diligence concerning whether it was true or not. To them, I can only suggest that they avoid reading every single post here that contains a link, because I don't ever do any due diligence on any link."

I was also suckered into it because right as I read your link I heard it being reported on my radio station. Basically the exact same words as the headline. And I trust this radio station, so I'm sure many of it's listeners have been hammering them about it, even though they corrected the story all day long.

I'm very happy you had a follow up post about it.


"Also, unlike many, I do not find inspiration in black individuals who manage to do what white people have already done. "

Or women, or hispanics, or anyone. Yeah, Obama is the 1st (or 2nd according to Bill Clinton) black president. So the hell what, there were 40+ white guys already did that.
This type of bullshit is plain old participation trophies.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:04 AM  

@6 Rick Johnsmeyer
I doubt Carson is familiar enough with the landscape of American political policy to have coherent opinions about very much of it.
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This would be a campaign weakness. Nobody knows everything about all subjects. He should have people who prime him on this stuff. If he doesn't, then that should indicate to us that he is not good at putting together a competent team.

The election is still approximately a year away, so let's watch and see if he can correct some of these things in that time.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:07 AM  

@8 DissidentRight
A year ago I would have agreed with all those other commenters. But now I agree 100% with Vox. Carson, nice guy. Doesn't have the slightest business running for President.
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I disagree with this. Anyone willing can run. The whole primary process is supposed to be about us deciding we don't want the candidate. Not that they weren't ever there to being with.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:10 AM  

@21 Stilicho #0066
Carson: anti-gun, open borders, tranny. Jeb must have a serious man-crush.
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Wait, are you saying Carson is a tranny? Lawd have mercy, you done gone and done it now XD

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:12 AM  

@22 Scalpellum Ferreum
@ 13 Wasn't Carson the first person to ever successfully separate cranially conjoined twins?

That qualifies him to be a brain surgeon, not President of the United States.
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It doesn't disqualify him either. What's going to sink his ship is the pro-guns and pro-borders. Poor Carson, I hadn't cared enough til now to actually investigate what he believes. I figured he's be washed out by maybe 6 more months, but he's staying strong in the polls.

Blogger Robert Coble November 07, 2015 11:15 AM  

West Point uses the term FULL SCHOLARSHIP in its own prospectus

Excerpt from the West Point Prospective:

ADMISSIONS DECISIONS

West Point has a rolling admissions policy. Outstanding, qualified, nominated candidates will be offered admission as their records become complete. All admissions files must be
complete, to include nominations, by the last workday in February.

Financial and Service Obligation

As a cadet, you are a member of the U.S. Army and receive a full scholarship and an annual salary of more than $10,000 from which you pay for your uniforms, textbooks, a laptop computer, and incidentals. There is no tuition charge, but there is a requirement for an initial deposit. Room, board, and medical and dental care are provided by the United States Government.

That showed up as the third match on a Google search for "West Point. Everything you expect a college to be; and more".

I can only wonder at who instigated the Politico hit piece.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:21 AM  

@34 Cecil Henry
Politico‘s Kyle Cheney has been fired right???

And will face punishment for lying right???


Surely he will......
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He'll probably be offered the job as Hillaries Tap Dancing Media Puppet like Josh Earnest is for Obama.

Blogger The Other Robot November 07, 2015 11:25 AM  

Progressives in academia and politics are the consummate Lysenkoists.

They have been trying to find the magic black rocket surgeon for a long time.

On that basis any black who is said to have great achievements is automatically suspect because you can never know how much of the reputation is undeserved and how many people there are out there who would burst the balloon but they are afraid to speak out or cannot get a platform.

Of course, that does not mean that the Politico piece is not a fabrication. The question is why and who was it really meant to destroy? After all Carson was never going to make it.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:26 AM  

@42 Desiderius

Look, this is great opportunity to disqualify the most immediate enemy, the corrupt and incompetent Pravda press. Focus fire where the enemy is vulnerable. If Vox is right about Carson, he'll take care of himself in due time.
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This is exactly my opinion, as well. The election is a long way off. While it hasn't happened yet, there are too many candidates and they are going to shake out eventually. Especially for someone like Carson, no matter the Cucks plans for him, the actual Left will go after him like rabid dogs because this brotha got off the plantation a long time ago.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:29 AM  

@46 guest

So, in your list of priorities, immigration is not a factor?

Blogger bearspaw November 07, 2015 11:31 AM  

Is there some secret message hidden in the previous post? There isn't a whole lot there that should cause anyone to get their knickers in a knot.

Blogger SirHamster November 07, 2015 11:40 AM  

Wasn't Carson the first person to ever successfully separate cranially conjoined twins?
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That qualifies him to be a brain surgeon, not President of the United States.


Maybe he can transfer that expertise to separate the conflicting races/groups of the United States.

"Scalpel goes here, and now slashy slashy"

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 11:50 AM  

"Or women . . . So the hell what, there were 40+ white guys already did that."

And that is why I respect Gertrude Ederle. Not because, like Katherine Switzer, she was the first woman to do it, but because she did it in a manner that no one before her had ever done, possibly has ever done.

I tip my hat to Shauna Hogan and the memory of Beryl Burton as well.

OpenID Jack Amok November 07, 2015 12:11 PM  

Every Civilization player knows that building the pyramids gives you a free granary in each city.

Well done.

Sadly, I'm pretty sure someone who's entire understanding of history was based on playing Sid Meier games would probably still have a significantly better understanding of history than your average high school grad.

Blogger Zaklog the Great November 07, 2015 12:12 PM  

I freely admit this is nothing like a qualification for U.S. President, but you have to admit that watching Dr. Ben Carson tear Barack Obama's ideology to tatters at the national prayer breakfast was fantastic.

OpenID Jack Amok November 07, 2015 12:16 PM  

For my part, I don't expect the next President to fix much. Yeb! or Hillary will be the worst sort of disasters of course, representing an "Accelerate the Course" for the DC establishment. But Trump won't likely fix much either, as he will be opposed by the DC establishment that will still control Congress and the Courts. But, I still think a Trump win would be a victory because it would indicate people are fed up enough with the same-old same-old to vote to send a bull into the china shop.

If Yeb! wins, it will be because people expect him to safely make minor changes that will magically fix things without risking any major problems. If Trump wins, it will be because people expect him to rampage through DC yelling "You're Fired!" and in general busting up the place. Even if he's not able to do that, the fact that people wanted it to happen will be a good sign for the future.

If Carson wins... well, he won't, but if he did, it would be a combination of people wanting to prove they're not racist and thinking an apparently decent, intelligent, churchian outsider can fix DC in a genteel manner. Perhaps it's a nice thought, but it's terribly naïve. It's basically the non-establishment version of Yeb! winning. Better, but still not a sign people are ready to take risks we need to take to really fix things.

Blogger Tom K. November 07, 2015 12:30 PM  

VD,

Thanks for replying to my comment. I appreciate it. You made a couple of points I wish to acknowledge and a couple I wish to respond to.

"Because he wants to be President of the United States of America. . .But I'd rather not see another affirmative-action anti-gun intellectually overmatched individual at the head of the US government. . ."

I agree entirely. I have never supported Carson for president because I remember Jimmy Carter; both as a failed president and, as revealed much later, a false Christian. I served overseas in the military when Carter was president and how the president is perceived directly affects how the military is treated on foreign soil, as serving under Reagan later demonstrated to me.

"Also, unlike many, I do not find inspiration in black individuals who manage to do what white people have already done. . ."

This I take exception to, and that after only a cursory reading of an entry on Biography.com. Ben Carson did not merely "do what white people have already done." He did what probably 97% of the white population could not do. I flatter myself to think I could have IF I'd wanted to, but seriously I don't think I could have. He excelled overwhelmingly in his field, took risks, developed new and innovative procedures, is respected worldwide for his abilities, not his skin color, and, unlike many surgeons (or so I've heard), was willing to take on cases where the chance of success was slim even though it would make his mortality stats look bad.

There is no evidence that Carson was an affirmative action token when he was made Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. Just as there is no evidence that Clarence Thomas was an affirmative action placement at Yale. In fact, Thomas was accepted the year before AA was implemented at Yale. But his is another story.

Blogger Tom K. November 07, 2015 12:30 PM  

I find inspiration in both of their life's stories (although I have not read much about either one) in the same way I find inspiration in Donald Trump's story (again, haven't read much about it). I find inspiration in the story of any person who overcomes great odds to achieve a worthy goal. Being black from the ghetto is not a necessary obstacle for an inspirational story, black or white. But it can and does add to the drama of the person's purposeful pursuit of their goal, the achievement of which makes their story inspiring.

You take exception to my thinking the vile hatred and contempt sometimes spewed on this site makes no sense, asserting my inability to see it doesn't mean "sense" not there. I disagree. I see little use for "vile hatred" and only under extreme circumstances. Combat, for instance. It's hard to attack and kill an enemy you do not hate. However, when hatred is needed it ought to be treated like chemotherapy or radiation. Something necessary under extremely dire, life-threatening circumstances, like dropping an atomic bomb on hundreds of thousands of civilians, but that is potentially damning to your soul. The warning of a friend to a friend.

Then you say, "Ben Carson's motives are contemptible: he wants to rule over us despite being utterly unfit in almost every way."

You may have a point. I'm not sure I would identify Carson's motive to be president as a desire to "rule over us." By your reasoning every single person running for president or who has ever run for president is contemptible.

THAT I have little problem believing. Just as most cops desire to exercise power and authority over others, which ought to automatically disqualify them for the job, so do most politicians secretly desire to "rule over us."

As someone who knew him once said of Jimmy Carter: "People think Jimmy Carter is a nice man. He's not. Nice men do not get to become president."

Although the Reagan presidency, not to mention George Washington's, would seem to be exceptions that prove the rule?

But whether this includes Carson or not remains to be seen.

"And Ben Carson has evil goals; he is absolutely wrong on both immigration and guns, the only two issues that matter."

That I will concede to you without argument. Goals can be separate from motives and the achievement of those goals would result in evil for America. Which is why I do not support him for president.

"He absolutely merits contempt."

Perhaps you are right and a Peter is just contemptible as a Judas. Perhaps I am mistaken in my efforts to, "love the sinner but hate the sin." Yet when I fail to make that distinction where it might be appropriate, where a person is merely mistaken or fearful or weak and not motivated by malice, envy, or psychopathy, I find that the corrosion such feelings bring to my soul a very high price to pay.

"The only reason he's been treated with kid gloves until now is because he is a) black and b) as this campaign's Token Black Republican Candidate, no one has been taking him seriously."

I agree. No one has thought he had a chance, but given the current mood and the attacks of the media I expect he will get a significant bump in the polls after this. Especially after his press conference yesterday.

BTW. In every post I have seen where people are cheering him for standing up to the media, I have posted a comment saying, "Thank you, Donald Trump, for showing us the way to handle the corrupt media! If it weren't for Donald Trump the Republicans would still be begging the media to love them."

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 07, 2015 12:42 PM  

Lots of you believed this Politico lie because you were pre-disposed to believe something bad about Carson

I read it as someone telling the General "this is the smartest black we ever found, we wouldn't have to lower the standards much for him, lets try to get him into west point before all the Ivy Leagues offer him free rides". There are headhunters looking for blacks of passable intelligence with no criminal history to be the clients of lawyers who sue for job rejections.

Wasn't Carson thefirstperson to ever successfully separate cranially conjoined twins?

He had a management position over 70 man OR crew in an operation that is the equivalent of doing a whipple on a 90+yo

Of all the things that I do not understand, blacks and Jews who are anti-gun are pretty high up on the list

Jews want Holodomor not Holo6million. Some believe with gun control the wrong people will be kept from having guns and all it will take is a bribe to the right person to get a gun themselves. .

Blogger TheRedSkull November 07, 2015 12:43 PM  

I support almighty Vox
Master of rhetoric shocks
Union of the nerds and jocks.

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 12:56 PM  

@BGS:

People who want a monopoly on guns I understand just fine.

Blogger TheRedSkull November 07, 2015 1:10 PM  

Anklebiters craving sock

Blogger Joel #0164 November 07, 2015 1:35 PM  

@46. guest

You do realize that Carson is very weak on immigration and pro-amnesty, right? You do realize that nonwhite immigrants do not vote Republican, right? You do realize that more immigration means fewer whites which means more Democrats, right? You do realize that more Democrats means more abortion, sexual degeneracy (tranny "rights"), and anti-Christianity, right?

If you cared about social conservative values, you'd vote for the guy with the strongest anti-immigration views. That may or may not be Trump, but it certainly isn't Carson or Huckabee.

Blogger Robert What? November 07, 2015 1:39 PM  

In my opinion - which that and four quarters will get you a dollar - the Republican establishment is hoping that Carson will knock out Trump. They figure Carson will be easier to kneecap later on than Trump would be.

Blogger Ostar November 07, 2015 1:58 PM  

Trump had Politico pegged before this incident, saying last week that Politico is "the dumbest and most slanted" site that he has ever encountered.
So another point where Trump's ahead of the curve, then.

Blogger The Other Robot November 07, 2015 2:06 PM  

He had a management position over 70 man OR crew in an operation that is the equivalent of doing a whipple on a 90+yo

I was going to mention the Peter Principle, but that implies that he was competent lower down the chain.

Blogger Groot November 07, 2015 2:21 PM  

So Cheney is a Dick?

Blogger Desiderius November 07, 2015 2:22 PM  

"This I take exception to, and that after only a cursory reading of an entry on Biography.com. Ben Carson did not merely "do what white people have already done." He did what probably 97% of the white population could not do. I flatter myself to think I could have IF I'd wanted to, but seriously I don't think I could have. He excelled overwhelmingly in his field, took risks, developed new and innovative procedures, is respected worldwide for his abilities, not his skin color, and, unlike many surgeons (or so I've heard), was willing to take on cases where the chance of success was slim even though it would make his mortality stats look bad.

There is no evidence that Carson was an affirmative action token when he was made Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. Just as there is no evidence that Clarence Thomas was an affirmative action placement at Yale. In fact, Thomas was accepted the year before AA was implemented at Yale. But his is another story."

Well said.

The tail is awfully thin that far out in the distribution, but it is not empty.

Truth is just as much a boundary of effective rhetoric as dialectic.

Blogger ajw308 (#98) November 07, 2015 2:40 PM  

@Guest, I feel the same way about Carson & for the same reasons. He's a good guy living fearlessly which is respectable. It's also easy to root for the noble underdog, which he is. But he's the underdog because he's black.

Bottom line, though? He's anti-gun. Thats says a lot.

Blogger Nate November 07, 2015 2:41 PM  

I don't even think Carson wants to be president. I think he wants his own fox news show... or radio show like Herman Cain and Fred Thompson got.

Carson is an attention whore of the highest order.

The primary evidence of this is the fact that he's had so many books ghost written about himself.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 3:00 PM  

@59 kfg
"Or women . . . So the hell what, there were 40+ white guys already did that."

And that is why I respect Gertrude Ederle. Not because, like Katherine Switzer, she was the first woman to do it, but because she did it in a manner that no one before her had ever done, possibly has ever done.

I tip my hat to Shauna Hogan and the memory of Beryl Burton as well.
---

I can appreciate anyone doing something new and/or unique. But, for instance, all the sycophantic stroking BHO get's for being the "first black president" is what I am talking about.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 3:22 PM  

Now, for all those who are disputing the Pyramids storing grain, I think there might be a solution. The Pyramids are made of grain (sort of):

Those big pyramids would take a few years to eat

Anonymous Wyrd November 07, 2015 3:59 PM  

I wonder what sort of hellish SJW spawn we'd get if Maraget Cho and Arthur Chu ever got in the same room together. *shudder*

Anonymous kfg November 07, 2015 4:01 PM  

" . . . all the sycophantic stroking BHO get's for being the "first black president" is what I am talking about."

And he isn't even the one who accomplished it.

Blogger Danby November 07, 2015 4:03 PM  

@79 Wyrd
I wonder what sort of hellish SJW spawn we'd get if Maraget Cho and Arthur Chu ever got in the same room together. *shudder*

Well Chu is a closet tranny, and Cho is evidently no longer able to carry to term, so mostly you'd get, or rather Chu would get a 12" dildo up his posterior.

Just for God's sake, no cameras, lest the Mockery Ninja get hold of photos.

Blogger Eric I. Gatera. November 07, 2015 5:38 PM  

You're missing the point.

Blogger Matamoros November 07, 2015 6:06 PM  

More on "Honest Ben":

So now the Daily Mail is reporting that Carson probably lied about protecting White classmates during the Detroit riots.

Also, his story about being named "most honest" student in a Yale psychology class is a lie, as Yale did not have a Perceptions 301 class while Carson was there.

And he continues to unravel.

Blogger rcocean November 07, 2015 6:28 PM  

I wouldn't be as harsh - or should I say honest - as Vox but I agree. Carson seems like a very intelligent, nice guy but he has no more business running for POTUS then Rush Limbaugh. Less in fact, since Rush is against Amnesty and is for gun rights.

Blogger rcocean November 07, 2015 6:31 PM  

I've always considered the Republican "base" full of nitwits based on their POTUS primary voting, but their stupid support for Carson, astounds me. What is the point of supporting someone who has Zero chance of getting elected, can't debate, and isn't even a conservative on the main issues. Are Repubs mesmerized by skin color? I guess so.

Anonymous map November 07, 2015 6:36 PM  

Tom K,

I think you are missing the point about Carson. Even if he was "competent," affirmative action still raises the boats of the competent just as much as the incompetent. Carson would still get many chances, less scrutiny, and a very wide margin of error. A white surgeon of similar ability would not get the same level of institutional support.

The man's had a relatively easy medical career since he did not have to endure the crucible a white surgeon would have.

And now he's running for President, spouting inanities about pyramids. He looks unprepared for debates and does not appear to even be very bright. We're just supposed to assume things about him because he is a surgeon.

Vox is right.

Anonymous map November 07, 2015 6:43 PM  

Moreover, I completely agree with the critics that peg the Republican base as inane.

Consider the position on taxes.

Every Republican wants to cut the tax rate, and, when challenged on the supposed budget busting consequences of this action, they immediately start talking about cutting deductions and loopholes.

The problem is, cutting deductions and loopholes means more income is exposed to the lower tax rate, meaning the effective tax cut will be a lot lower than advertised. No one seems to catch onto this game.

Anonymous Unadorned November 07, 2015 7:03 PM  

Ben Carson will be the first to tell you he is the only man to ever successfully separate Siamese twins at the head, however, I’ve never heard him say he was assisted by a surgical team of 70 other highly skilled members, which included other expert surgeons.

I’ve read many comments on other blogs where conservatives gush over Carson, they obviously believe he performed this surgery single-handed, blindfolded, with one hand tied behind his back. After all, they see plenty of blacks just like him in the movies. Also, the fact that he was head of pediatric surgery at Johns Hopkins means little to me. Of course, if their was a reasonably intelligent black man on the staff he would be the one to make head of the department. Call me a cynic—or worse, but I’ve seen far too much pandering and genuflecting to blacks to believe that Carson is some super intelligent black man that got every thing without the black benefit.

Blogger scott holland November 07, 2015 8:05 PM  

One HNIC is more than enough.

OpenID ymarsakar November 07, 2015 9:17 PM  

@88

however, I’ve never heard him say he was assisted by a surgical team of 70 other highly skilled members, which included other expert surgeons.

Carson's interview addressed that. The team had a number of options but Carson picked the exact way to go about and team just went along. They didn't want the responsibility of choosing. Later on, Carson said that he was running out of time and got some kind of divine inspiration and forgot what he was doing, when he finished the surgery.

Disbelieving other people's Authorities is a good idea. Wanting to believe you have it right that you fall right into the Left's propaganda pit, is taking things too far. If people want to be effective, they might want to consider not falling for enemy tactics.

OpenID ymarsakar November 07, 2015 9:25 PM  

The Leftist alliance is attacking Carson for similar reasons SJWs in science fiction attacked Vox Day. Except the difference is that Vox Day, because he wants Trump to stir up America in a way that benefits Vox Day's objectives, prefers to see Carson drop out, even if that means buying into Leftist propaganda and underhanded tricks.

If you want it to be true, it will be true to you, whether you like the Left or not.

This weakness of allowing the Left to do as they wish when it benefits you, and then trying to fight them on some minor fronts of theirs that you consider a major theater, is going to net people some interesting consequences.

While Kratman has moral and perhaps tactical reasons for avoiding the Leftist and anti Leftist band wagon effect against Carson, my reasons are strategic and logistical in nature. Hate does not improve a person's defenses against propaganda, that requires a different conditioning process. And people with weak defenses against the Left's propaganda, SJW propaganda or otherwise, will be useless in the war.

Anonymous Dr. J November 07, 2015 11:08 PM  

I'm late to the party as always, but to all those who seem to think Carson is an affirmative action neurosurgeon, I can safely say that not a one of you knows what the hell he's talking about.

Surgery in general remains a competitive field, but training has softened quite a bit over the last few years, with work hour restrictions and other such incentives for the lazy. During Carson's years, in the late 70's and 80's, training was brutal. Even in the modern era of medicine, you will see residents fired for incompetence, because you can't afford to graduate an inept surgeon. People will die after all. And in my experience, those fired are disproportionately female and minority.

But neurosurgery is in a class by itself. They've been exempted from the work hour restrictions. At seven years, it's by far the longest and most intense of any residency. During Carson's time, resident suicide was common and most programs pared down their residents with pyramid-type programs. There is no way that he was social-promoted through that hell due to his skin color. He achieved, as Vox said, what many whites have achieved. That is, far more than any of the presidential candidates not named Donald Trump.

I'm no Carson supporter, but the only valid hits scored on him in this thread have been about his positions on guns and immigration. It's a shame that the existence of affirmative action tarnishes very real achievements by blacks.

Blogger The Other Robot November 07, 2015 11:18 PM  

During Carson's years, in the late 70's and 80's, training was brutal. Even in the modern era of medicine, you will see residents fired for incompetence, because you can't afford to graduate an inept surgeon.

Washington pushed to graduate an incompetent black astronaut. That was a long time ago.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 07, 2015 11:44 PM  

@92 Dr. J
It's a shame that the existence of affirmative action tarnishes very real achievements by blacks.
---

I've always thought it was a devils bargain. You get a free hand up and extra consideration on everything, but then nobody believes you earned it.

Anonymous Mark Dietzler November 08, 2015 12:20 AM  

Carson's support of TPP is a legit reason to disfavor him, not that garbage hit piece by politico. That is all the coverage is going to be about, though. Real policy issues aren't sexy enough to drive clicks or viewer eyeballs.

Blogger Desiderius November 08, 2015 1:15 AM  

"This weakness of allowing the Left to do as they wish when it benefits you, and then trying to fight them on some minor fronts of theirs that you consider a major theater, is going to net people some interesting consequences."

Oh, it already has. Were living with them all around us.

Blogger Tom K. November 08, 2015 1:26 AM  

Amazing! Even when confronted with an entire career if success you have to pull the nigger back down so you can believe he's not better than you and the only way he accomplished what he did is because of Affirmative Action.

Oh, I agree. Affirmative Action corrupts everything. Which is why conservaticr Republicans have always been against it. But AA only gets the black man in the door. Do you think people let him operate on them because of Affirmative Action?

The small-minded bitterness of low-class whites, like my own brother, always amazes me even though I understand it. The black man has a built in excuse for his failures in life, but what excuse does a white man have?

And in case I sound like a nigger-loving race traitor here, you should hear what blacks call me when I mock their ignorant claims of being "Egyptians"! LOL!!!

I have no tolerance for ignorant Racism from any color. I rhetorically destroy those who ignorantly blame the white man for their failures and I believe in the IQ differences of different races. I like to think I'm a race realist as well as a red pill realist when it comes to women.

And I still believe Carson is a mistake for President. But to try to trash him as a surgeon is just stupid. Five orops where they are due.

Blogger Groot November 08, 2015 1:39 AM  

Someone give Tom K. some smelling salts. He appears to have contracted the vapors. Let go of the pearls, Tom K.! (Is it that time of the month?)

Anonymous Sam November 08, 2015 2:04 AM  

As for the FED and debt. We can not get rid of our debt. If we did we would have no money. I know this sounds absurd but it's true. To print money in the US the Treasury ask the FED. The FED loans them the money and prints up a bond, with interest, then the Treasury prints the money. The catch is all money is created by debt. A little thought will tell you that this can't last. Since all money is created by debt it can never be paid off and the debt will compound to unsustainable amounts. It's a huge rip off. We gave the FED all our gold, largest amount on the planet, and authority to charge us interest to create money and they gave us...nothing.

Since this system can't possibly work what will happen is they will come up with a new currency to "save" us and it will of course be another rip off. The SDR.

I know this sounds too bizarre to be true but look up how money is created by the FED and you will see it's true.

Blogger Tom K. November 08, 2015 2:13 AM  

@98

And your contribution to this conversation is. . .?

Blogger Groot November 08, 2015 2:33 AM  

"And your contribution to this conversation is. . .?"

Somebody with testicles needed to step in.

Blogger Tom K. November 08, 2015 3:05 AM  

Amazing! Even when confronted with an entire career if success you have to pull the nigger back down so you can believe he's not better than you and the only way he accomplished what he did is because of Affirmative Action.

Oh, I agree. Affirmative Action corrupts everything. Which is why conservaticr Republicans have always been against it. But AA only gets the black man in the door. Do you think people let him operate on them because of Affirmative Action?

The small-minded bitterness of low-class whites, like my own brother, always amazes me even though I understand it. The black man has a built in excuse for his failures in life, but what excuse does a white man have?

And in case I sound like a nigger-loving race traitor here, you should hear what blacks call me when I mock their ignorant claims of being "Egyptians"! LOL!!!

I have no tolerance for ignorant Racism from any color. I rhetorically destroy those who ignorantly blame the white man for their failures and I believe in the IQ differences of different races. I like to think I'm a race realist as well as a red pill realist when it comes to women.

And I still believe Carson is a mistake for President. But to try to trash him as a surgeon is just stupid. Five orops where they are due.

Blogger Groot November 08, 2015 3:20 AM  

This is just embarrassing. You're just peeing yourself. Grab a doily or something.

OpenID ymarsakar November 08, 2015 8:55 AM  

The black man has a built in excuse for his failures in life, but what excuse does a white man have?

They both have the excuse of the Democrat culture. Just ask Nate for how that works.

Carson, by getting off the Democrat plantation, accomplished pretty much the same thing as VoxDay, when the SFWA ejected him. But Carson wasn't ejected by the Democrats, he left of his own free will. Some people either don't want to understand that or they avoid thinking about it, because it would hurt their idea of themselves.

By kicking him off the plantation, SFWA actually did VoxDay a favor.

OpenID ymarsakar November 08, 2015 9:32 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPqq6fr2CF4

Most of the news coverage is saturated by Leftist propagandists. Some people even think the GOP was behind the downfall of various black conservatives. How little do they know, perhaps due to living overseas. Although living in the US wouldn't help, since the propaganda coverage is even more intense here.

That's the interview or speech I was referring to before. I always like to get to the source, rather than use the Left's gatekeepers to tell me how to be a proper indoctrinated zombie, as many people in life seem to prefer. Giving liberty to a person that wants to be a slave isn't a good idea.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 08, 2015 9:57 AM  

Is Dr. Carson's surgery career and Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital not true, not successful? Is he or is he not a, at least, a competent surgeon?

If Dr. Carson benefited from affirmative action programs, he certainly performed what he needed to do in order to get his education.

Attack his policy positions by all means. But, it is getting ridiculous with the attacks on his career.

One of my issues with people like Dr. Carson is that their success in their chosen field required all their time to be immersed in their field. They really do not have time to invest in other intellectual pursuits. I know a few like that. Incredibly intelligent but too busy, with no time to a more general view of life.

Like the political philosophers that have never gotten dirt under their nails. They are the worst. Farmers, in my experience, tend to see the world as it really is and make some of the best political philosophers.

Blogger Jackie DeLister November 08, 2015 12:40 PM  

You really are an obnoxious asshole.

Blogger Stephen Davenport November 09, 2015 1:51 AM  

Weird anti-carson rant, Vox. Generally I like your stuff, but this is strange.

Blogger Stephen St. Onge November 09, 2015 3:42 AM  

"Stephen St. Onge doesn't appear to have paid attention to previous elections:

" 'Lots of you believed this Politico lie because you were pre-disposed to believe something bad about Carson. Which means you have typical human weaknesses. Try to overcome them.'

"It is admittedly possible that something legitimately disqualifying won't surface about Carson by the time he ends his campaign. But the history of Token Black Republican Candidates strongly suggests otherwise."

No, Vox, I didn't forget anything. I remembered that Politico is a mouthpiece for the SJWs, who always lie.

What is important about this episode is not whether Carson would make a good president. (I don't support him.) What's important is that you all were manipulated, played, conned by people you know are dishonest.

Trusting the enemy is precisely how people allow SJWs to infiltrate, as your recent posts about Northern Heights Lutheran point out. Faced with an announcement from Politico that the sun rose in the east, you should be suspicious. But none of you expressed the slightest skepticism.

And now that it's evident you all were wrong, you're coming up with excuses for making an error, rather than asking how to avoid the error in the future. Which means you're setting yourselves up to be conned again. Ungood.

Blogger Matamoros November 09, 2015 12:11 PM  

"...Dr. Ben Carson. While he is touted as being the first surgeon to separate conjoined twins attached at the head, he actually missed that milestone by decades. Moreover, he has shown poor judgement in attempting the same procedure on adults despite every indication that they would not survive. Both died on the operating table."

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