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Sunday, November 29, 2015

The personal is always political

 

David Gerrold's announcement that he will unfriend the majority of Americans who support Donald Trump for president is a clear example of why it makes no sense to attempt to be friends with SJWs or even be civil with them. Time and time and time again, I see someone explain that so-and-so SJW "is really a good guy" or that this-and-that SJW "is fine as long as we don't discuss politics".

But politics is all-consuming for the SJW, and when push comes to shove, the SJW will ALWAYS choose his politics over you because his politics are an intrinsic aspect of his personal identity. You might as reasonably expect him to cut off a body part in order to preserve the relationship once the inevitable conflict arrives. The SJW is not your friend. The SJW is incapable of being your friend.

So don't associate with SJWs. Don't cut them any slack at all. Once a friend, a family member, or an acquaintance reveals symptoms of SJW, you should quarantine them as ruthlessly as you would quarantine them if they had ebola or some other lethal and infectious disease.

Be the problem.

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86 Comments:

Anonymous A Visitor November 29, 2015 7:43 AM  

I'm about to head out of contact for a Baptism today. I was listening to this when I pulled up your page, Vox (yeah, my brother likes Fallout 4 and back when we used to live together I'd watch him play Falllout 3 and we'd shoot the ****).

My first thought was, "Who?" My second was, "Why should I care?"

This isn't a slight against you; it's a slight against Gerrod. I figured he's an SJW by your description and ran a quick Google search. Scif-fi writer...what is it with those people and A-list celebs thinking we give a damn about their political views? If I wanted that or to hear the news (John Melloncamp in the early 2000's said that was his job; no, it's to write songs Cougar!) I'd expect them to frickin be a politician or newscaster. I mean, they're like the fat kid that cries when he doesn't get that extra sleeve of Oreos or fifth piece of pie.

I know it's the SJW mentality that convinces them that people care. It just succeeds in pissing me off. Well, not on Facebook anymore, but maybe this is a job for the Vile Faceless Minions? Also, how about a boycott of his sorry *** (is his stuff published through Tor)? Have a good day!

Happy first Sunday of Advent all!

Blogger JDC November 29, 2015 7:46 AM  

you should quarantine them as ruthlessly as you would quarantine them if they had ebola or some other lethal and infectious disease.

I had to do this with my sister-in-law, which meant my brother (whom I dearly love) has become collateral damage. Her entire identify is founded upon SJW principles - namely, abortion / public schools / the evils of Christianity.

We were at our cabin last summer, and after her umpteenth attempt to insert her politics into the conversation (we were playing schmear and drinking beer with much cheer), I got up and went to bed. The next morning I shook her hand and stated that I was not going to subject my family to her insane ramblings and longer. That if she was coming to the cabin to alert me beforehand so I would make sure not to be there. Haven't spoken to her (or my brother) since, but this year's Christmas get together should be interesting.

Spiritual identity means we are not what we do or what people say about us. And we are not what we have. We are the beloved daughters and sons of God.
Henri Nouwen

Blogger Hammerli280 November 29, 2015 7:55 AM  

There are some people not civilized enough to know how to disagree without provoking a fight. Vox is right, such savages are not fit company for civilized people.

Blogger bob k. mando November 29, 2015 7:59 AM  

1. A Visitor November 29, 2015 7:43 A
My first thought was, "Who?"


the guy who has failed to publish the next book in his magnum opus ( the War against the Chtorr ) for FAR longer than Robert Jordan screwed around with the Wheel of Time.

War is planned for seven books, Gerrold has published four ... none since 1993.


the only rational response to Gerrold for any purpose is, "Shut up and write, bitch."

Anonymous NorthernHamlet November 29, 2015 8:07 AM  

so-and-so SJW "is really a good guy" or that this-and-that SJW "is fine as long as we don't discuss politics".

Every last one of them I've known... Just below the surface is a truly venomous core waiting for an excuse to come out.

We're different, and alongside compassion, understand power is a difficult thing to wield. They, however, have to be venomous, it's the only power they've ever felt in their lives.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 29, 2015 8:28 AM  

Aside from his criminal actions I could care less about the guy.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 29, 2015 8:38 AM  

My first thought was, "Who?"

He's the one that wrote the tribbles episode of the original Star Trek. And badly ripped off Heinlein's Martian Flat Cats to do it.

That's it. That's all he did, really.

My second was, "Why should I care?"

You can't. You honestly can't.

Although I'll grant it is kind of amazing that he was able to milk that one Star Trek episode into a career that has lasted fifty years.

Or not. Witness Harlan Ellison.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 29, 2015 8:39 AM  

My first thought was, "Who?"

He's the one that wrote the tribbles episode of the original Star Trek. And badly ripped off Heinlein's Martian Flat Cats to do it.

That's it. That's all he did, really.

My second was, "Why should I care?"

You can't. You honestly can't.

Although I'll grant it is kind of amazing that he was able to milk that one Star Trek episode into a career that has lasted fifty years.

Or not. Witness Harlan Ellison.

Anonymous Cash November 29, 2015 8:43 AM  

We have a member of my church who said that anyone who is boycotting Starbucks can unfriend him, never speak to him again, and drop dead.

I have made it a point to not talk to the guy for over a year. He is a typical Gamma male. His wife wears the pants and is out of control on Facebook and he thinks that it is just great.

Also the fat bastard wears skinny jeans.

Anonymous VFM 360 November 29, 2015 8:52 AM  

@Cash

You've just described a majority of churches in America. True Churchians all.

Anonymous Godfrey November 29, 2015 9:17 AM  

"[An SJW's] politics [is the] intrinsic aspect of his personal identity."

This needs to be repeated over and over until everybody finally gets it. The SJW is a SHALLOW person desperately searching for meaning outside of himself because within and of himself there is little of interest. Politics fills his empty void. He seeks to reform his neighbor because incapable of reforming himself. He is the hollow man.

Anonymous Godfrey November 29, 2015 9:19 AM  

Did you ever read Eric Hoffer's book "The True Believer"? If not, I highly recommend it.

Blogger Harsh November 29, 2015 9:25 AM  

It's hard to call Gerrold a has-been. He's more of a never-was. Most of his better stories were ripped off from superior authors, which should come as no surprise.

Anonymous Jeffrey Quick November 29, 2015 9:37 AM  

Found his public page, sent him a message:
"I'm a Ted Cruz guy myself (all the merits of Trump and more, without any of the considerable downside). But if it comes down to Trump vs. anyone that the Democrats will nominate, my vote will go to the Donald.

I'm letting you know because I've never been blocked by a has-been science fiction author before."

Blogger Gordon November 29, 2015 9:46 AM  

@ 8: Agree. I haven't read anything Gerrold wrote after his book on how to write TV scripts, which was really a book about "I was on the Star Trek set and met Leonard Nimoy and stuff!" If you were a scifi fan in the early 1970s and desperately missed the show after cancellation, you read his book.

I never got Harlan Ellison's mass appeal, either. Mind you, in those days, one could read literally everything published in scifi/fantasy without great effort. So if someone had actual credits, they could dine out on that to a degree. Perhaps a trip to Sizzler. But I think that Ellison was invited to so many cons because the con committee was hoping he would be a brat, for the entertainment value.

Looking at Gerrold's credits now...geez, he really hasn't done much since, has he? Yeah, a few writing credits, but you know the old joke about the Polish starlet, right?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 9:50 AM  

"You might as reasonably expect him to cut off a body part in order to preserve the relationship once the inevitable conflict arrives. "

That's a good point. Especially considering that some of them have actually had body parts cut off in the furtherance of their political ID.

"So don't associate with SJWs. Don't cut them any slack at all. Once a friend, a family member, or an acquaintance reveals symptoms of SJW, you should quarantine them as ruthlessly as you would quarantine them if they had ebola or some other lethal and infectious disease."

Is there any evidence of rehabilitating and SJW? This made me remember Matthew 10:35:

For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law:

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 9:56 AM  

@2 JDC

I guess that is the difference between an SJW and a plain old liberal. I've got an aunt who was the odd sheep liberal amongst the rest of the family who isn't. But she would never go on and on like that, she knew nobody agreed with her on politics.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 29, 2015 9:59 AM  

I never got Harlan Ellison's mass appeal, either.

He has a reputation for being an epic knob (which is, in itself, entertaining - simply being a dick is commonplace and boring but being a world class dick is rare and lulzy) but stuff like JEFFTY IS FIVE and A BOY AND HIS DOG showed the man could write.

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 29, 2015 10:10 AM  

David Gerrold, on the other hand, wrote:

A naked young man-no, only a boy-just a little too young and a little too pretty, came running out the door carrying his clothes in his hands. He looked terrified. He came flying, skidding, tripping down the stairs. He slipped and skidded the last few steps.
Sawyer's eyes widened in surprise at the sight of the voluptuous boy, but let him pass. "That's not Murdock." he decided. Apparently, this establishment kept a wider variety of erotic talents available for the entertainment of its guests than he had previously assumed.

"Hm," said Sawyer, looking after the boy's rosy cheeks. "I didn't think Murdock liked humans of any sex."


So he probably won't be banning any voluptuous boys from his Facebook.

David Gerrold on well-known NAMBLA supporter (and author of paedophilic wank fantasy HOGG) Samuel R. Delany:

Chip is one of the authors who sets the standard for the rest of us, and his is the standard I most aspire to reach.

Blogger Daniel November 29, 2015 10:11 AM  

Oddly, the kid Jeffty was based on grew up to become an SJW who commited suicide.

Blogger VD November 29, 2015 10:18 AM  

Is there any evidence of rehabilitating an SJW?

I have not seen any. The very question indicates that you are inclined to be too accommodating of them. Don't think rescue and cure, think about preventing the infection of others.

Blogger Desiderius November 29, 2015 10:19 AM  

I've had good results lately with pushing back with very strong frame control where before I'd get angry or walk out. Some of them are getting the sense they've wandered far off of the track of whatever it was that made them SJWs/SJW-sympathetic in the first place and are looking for an opportunity to meaningfully repent.

See Jim Wagner above. He's still wrong, but he's wrong in a different way.

Blogger Harsh November 29, 2015 10:20 AM  

But the Left is still the tolerant side, right? I just want to be clear.

Blogger Desiderius November 29, 2015 10:22 AM  

VD,

"I have not seen any. The very question indicates that you are inclined to be too accommodating of them. Don't think rescue and cure, think about preventing the infection of others."

Accommodation is not the only option. What would you have done with Saul of Tarsus after he'd seen Christ?

Blogger VD November 29, 2015 10:27 AM  

What would you have done with Saul of Tarsus after he'd seen Christ?

Accept him, of course. I don't rule out the possibility of an SJW repenting. But until he repents and confesses, I won't have anything to do with him.

The problem so many Christians have is that they are so eager to accept others that they do so BEFORE they repent. Even God won't do that.

Blogger Frank Brady November 29, 2015 10:48 AM  

SJW rules absolutely dictate "news" content. No national media are reporting that the Colorado Springs shooter "self-identified" as female. Sort of screws up the narrative, doesn't it?

Anonymous Hiyac November 29, 2015 10:48 AM  

The author suggest "quarantining" ones mother, father, daughter, son or sibling if the exhibit any sign of caring about social justice.

It's sad. It's short sighted. It's absurd. It's surly a sign of psychotic fanaticism.

Anonymous sth_txs November 29, 2015 10:57 AM  

Great article by Jack Donovan.

http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2015/11/all-they-have-is-fear/

You have to throw it back in their face. I was called racist for pointing out the amount of black on black crime yet these intellectual superiors never read any article by Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell pointing the same thing.

I've also now started implying those with anti-gun views are on par with a rapist or pedophile. That seems to shut them up. :LOL:

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 29, 2015 11:02 AM  

@24

VD, you'll be happy to know that about half my family supports Trump, and the rest are at least okay with him winning.

My aunt (mother's sister) and uncle especially. Said uncle is a real estate lawyer and a public defender, and my aunt is his secretary. And he basically has the unenviable task of dealing with the scum of the Earth. He likes to tell us his work horror stories when they meet us for dinner on a semi-regular basis.

And a lot of those horror stories aren't from his criminal defense work (he says that about 80% of the people they send him are absolutely, 100% guilty), they're from the real-estate work. People who "buy" a house, and then don't make a mortgage payment for 5 years while simultaneously taking out equity loans and not paying that back either, and then they get mad when the bank forecloses on the house (he's usually representing the banks in these cases). You can guess what kind of people the banks have to do this with.

So they are completely on board with electing Trump.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 11:18 AM  

@20 VD
Is there any evidence of rehabilitating an SJW?

I have not seen any. The very question indicates that you are inclined to be too accommodating of them. Don't think rescue and cure, think about preventing the infection of others.
---

Got it! Nope, I'm not one to accommodate them, was curious. I've been discussing SJWs a lot with friends and family. Haven't found one yet that is the least bit sympathetic to SJWs.

Blogger VD November 29, 2015 11:31 AM  

Bob Mando, are you serious? You STILL can't recognize Tad?

Anonymous aviendha November 29, 2015 11:39 AM  

*sigh*
In the past I pretty much ignored the politics of folks I disagree with but it has now moved beyond the left/right paradigm. It is full on demonic possession and they will literally eat your children. It is amazing how the power shift of the culture war has changed so much in the just the past twenty years. It is an avalanche of filth, so many that I respected and enjoyed are just lifting the veil and showing the ugliness of their soul. Gerrold was so nice at Sasquan and then at the Hugo's...possessed. Even as wildly popular as rape rape is, I'm probably not going to purchase anything else he writes...just sad.

Blogger Trust November 29, 2015 11:59 AM  

@VD: " The problem so many Christians have is that they are so eager to accept others that they do so BEFORE they repent. Even God won't do that."
_______

In other words, Christians are more likely than SJWs to practice.the tolerance that the SJWs preach.

Anonymous Viidad November 29, 2015 12:34 PM  

You guys forgot Gerrold's most intimate work: the story of a man who travels through time and seduces himself, then lots of himselves in an endless homo orgy. Captures the essence of the man, really.

Anonymous Freddy November 29, 2015 12:39 PM  

Other than divine supernatural regeneration, zero hope.

Blogger VD November 29, 2015 12:43 PM  

You guys forgot Gerrold's most intimate work

We didn't forget it, we never read it. What is wrong with you anyhow?

Blogger Steve, the Dark Ninja of Mockery November 29, 2015 12:51 PM  

Viidad - perhaps Mr Gerrold was inspired by K Tempest Lane-Bryant

Daniel - :(

Blogger Cecil Henry November 29, 2015 12:51 PM  

Translation:

If you don't do what I say I won;t be your friend...


But eventually it becomes more than 'I wont be your friend'...

It becomes you must be prosecuted for not agree with me.

Cause after all, his intentions are only good!! Only the best of motivations. So any means are fine!!

Blogger Cail Corishev November 29, 2015 12:55 PM  

We didn't forget it, we never read it.

Now I hope I can forget about it...

Blogger Quadko November 29, 2015 1:12 PM  

These are the people who go on hunger strikes to try to manipulate your behavior, and the kind of people for whom hunger strikes work to manipulate their behavior.

Anonymous Rolf November 29, 2015 1:12 PM  

My first thought was "and he's supposed to be a good writer, when he can't even explain why he hates people and wants to other them for having the gall to like someone he doesn't? And he's supposedly smart, but he demonstrates no understanding of why someone doesn't disagree?"

Not so much "ivory tower" and "Tower of Babel."

Blogger Rantor November 29, 2015 1:27 PM  

I think the SJW is all about adopting a personal narrative based on feelz not facts. This narrative, being feelzy, is constantly changing as the SJW works to ingratiate itself (wouldn't want to offend an SJW with an inappropriate gender pronoun.... by doing so I also neuter them) with its community. The SJW will announce rules expecting others to adopt them, and adopt rules from other SJWs. As they are fictions, at some point, their rules will be irrational (SJWs hate religious fundies but welcome Syrian Sunnis to your neighborhood).

In the end, it is being against all that Christ, the apostles and prophets described as good and true.

Blogger kmbr November 29, 2015 1:28 PM  

Once I find out that someone has these qualities I naturally have an aversion to them. It's very hard for me to put aside side such a large character flaw. In all reality, they are working or at least a passive accomplice to people who are working to destroy your way of life or your children's future.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 29, 2015 1:33 PM  

Rehabilitation?

The SJW by definition must lack fundamental pathways of thought, and we know that you can't fix STUPID.

"Never try to teach a pig to sing; all it does is frustrate you and annoy the pig."

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 November 29, 2015 1:43 PM  

@34

seduces himself, then lots of himselves in an endless homo orgy

You mean masturbation. Having sex with yourself is the definition of masturbation. Why would any of us want to read about a man masturbating? Especially "endlessly".

Anonymous Fred November 29, 2015 2:01 PM  

So many Trump haters on Gerrolds FB page-can there be so many empty headed fools in the US?

Anonymous Viidad November 29, 2015 2:14 PM  

You know, as a kid you see The Trouble With Tribbles and then later see a book and then later you're like... how the %$7* did I end up here? I had to get tested for AIDS after reading The Man Who Folded Himself.

I am not proud of my checkered literary past.

Anonymous Viidad November 29, 2015 2:18 PM  

Actually, when I was a teenager I read anything sci-fi that I found in the local thrift store. $0.25 a book. I went, "hey, time travel!"

I had no idea who Gerrold actually was until the Hugos this year... long after his book hit the trashcan. Now it makes sense.

I wish I had a cooler story, though. Like how they made me read it as part of a secret Ultra scheme targeting new Mensa members for inclusion in their homo death cult.

Blogger ray November 29, 2015 2:19 PM  

Won't submit to the modern Emasco-Man and his Mob? After executing every passive-aggressive, pussyish, backhanded method to injure or disenfranchise you, Emasco-Man will Unfriend you and Block you. Safely. From cushion-chair cyberspace.

Firing squad. Three deep so as to save precious bullets.

Blogger Aaron Kulkis November 29, 2015 2:21 PM  

@34
"You guys forgot Gerrold's most intimate work: the story of a man who travels through time and seduces himself, then lots of himselves in an endless homo orgy.

* Captures the essence of the man, really. *"

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Anonymous Nxx November 29, 2015 2:24 PM  

@ Hiyac
The author suggest "quarantining" ones mother, father, daughter, son or sibling if the exhibit any sign of caring about social justice.


Translation from SJW to english:

The author suggest "quarantining" ones mother, father, daughter, son or sibling if they are free speech hating stalinoids who gleefully mob persecute by means of economic strangulation anyone who disagrees with them for the purpose of gaining status, milking patreon and parasitizing off of productive employees by becoming diversity officers.

Blogger ray November 29, 2015 2:30 PM  

"But politics is all-consuming for the SJW, and when push comes to shove, the SJW will ALWAYS choose his politics over you because his politics are an intrinsic aspect of his personal identity."


Accurate insight. Not just an intrinsic part of his/her identity, but the core of personal identity. That's why they call their mob-tyranny Identity Politics.

Boomers were the first gen in history to be conditioned to believe that politics . . . Holy and Almighty Politics . . . was the answer to ALL problems and questions, practical and existential. And we just spent the past forty years proving how wrong these people (infesting both Left and Right) are.

The True Believer lefties that I grew up with all had one thing in common: they'd replaced God inside themselves with Politics. Or never had God in them to begin. They saw, and still see, the world and all its events as manifestations of Politics . . . and baby, once we get the right people into office, see, once we get OUR people into power, why then the whole world will . . . uh, well, nothing really changed. In fact, once the People's Choice's got into power, America went down the shithole immediately and noisily. While The People cheered their tremendous moral supremacy and their IRAs.

Never never trust a 'political person' and never trust any policy or 'solution' based on politics. The personal is NOT political, and anybody that says otherwise is a totalitarian disguised as a 'helper'.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 2:38 PM  

@49 ray

Firing squad. Three deep so as to save precious bullets.
---

Well, if you're going to that kind of trouble I better finish my idea of a Horizontal guillotine that is a modified "moving sidewalk" from the airport.

Blogger chris November 29, 2015 2:43 PM  

Heh. Deliberately tweeted Dave just for the blockage.
One assumes that the Ilk are already there. Because we do not need permission from Vox to cause mayhem.
https://twitter.com/pukeko60/status/671050603787849729

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2015 2:44 PM  

It looks to me as if this Gerrold character is having trouble with SJW bubble maintenance. Those people supporting Trump are smearing that bubble, and he is not happy.

I've never seen so many hamster wheels smoking and burning out as over on the chase bank/ Tranned Parenthood story on BB. It's hilarious the lengths they are going to for their Narrative. Earlier I saw some progs on there agreeing that we need to do away with gun free zones. These SJWs will be munching on those progs pretty soon.

Blogger ray November 29, 2015 3:10 PM  

53 -- As you wish. Let it not be claimed that I retarded originality and progress.


Just saying . . . with the three-deep method, you can put cucks like this in the back row. Shift 'em around. Soon they will be LOOKING for 'friends to block'.

But hey I'm not wedded to FS. As the ole Sarah Lawrence Savant useta say, follow your bliss. :O)

Anonymous Jay November 29, 2015 3:10 PM  

It is true that the SJW is a "rubicon mind". It has crossed the rubicon of health, and can never ever come back.

Fundamentally, I think the SJW was pushed there by an atrocious childhood where he/she was robbed of everything good that a normal childhood would have. Thus, eventually, after enough trauma, the mind "crosses the rubicon", where it is in a permanent state of revenge, wanting nothing but death and chaos, so as to take revenge on all life, in response to the life of which it was robbed.

It's true that the SJW only respects strength. Who among us can actually understand and feel some pity for the monsters these people have become, yet still stage a ruthless attack on them as they no doubt simply require by virtue of their mental state of permanent revenge on all that is good and just.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 29, 2015 3:24 PM  

@57 I just ripped up a SJW a couple days ago.  I detailed just how it went wrong about "racism", especially "institutional racism" and how everything it was promoting was a lie.

I haven't seen it emit a peep since.

Anonymous Jay November 29, 2015 3:33 PM  

Recently, it was caught on video a normal person transforming into an SJW. It is disturbing and very sad.

Fundamentally, it wasn't his fault. Yet that doesn't change the fact he still needed to be shot.

Blogger Dexter November 29, 2015 4:27 PM  

I read the Chtorr books in the mid-1990s.

The conclusion was inescapable that Gerrold was deeply disturbed mentally and sexually.

And yes, I believe you can indeed tell something about the author from his works of fiction.

Blogger David November 29, 2015 6:20 PM  

Just went off to FB to send D.G. a 'friend request'. THEN, I can 'unfriend' him!!!

Hehehehehehehehe.........

Blogger kurt9 November 29, 2015 7:04 PM  

I've never "friended" Gerrold on Facebook anyways. I doubt most people who support Trump even know who he is.

Blogger kurt9 November 29, 2015 7:13 PM  

BTW, the Chtorr books are good, although the sexuality featured in them was, shall we say, somewhat off beat (which is putting it mildly). Over all, I found them to be rather Heinleinian and I rather liked them, despite the sexuality in them. I've not read any of his other stuff, however. Do bear in mind the Chtorr books were written nearly 30 years ago, and he appears to lack ether the desire or the self-discipline to finish the series. That alone tells me something about the man.

I'm no prude and I care not one iota about other people's sexual habits. But I am not a fan of sexuality in fiction. I think its superfluous and detracts from a good story. There are only two reasons to have sexuality in a story. One is because the writer is incapable of telling a good story without it, which says something about the ability of the writer. The other is because the writer is projecting his own psychological issues into the story. Either way, its a negative reflection on the writer.

Blogger SQT November 29, 2015 8:31 PM  

Don't you love how these people have the audacity to still maintain their smugness while being the ones to shut down anything that doesn't fit within their echo chamber?

I learned a lot about the liberal mindset during the last election and purged my friend list accordingly. Vox is right- you can reason with an SJW so why bother trying?

Blogger dfordoom November 29, 2015 9:37 PM  

The curious thing is that the SJW thing is not actually about politics. They don’t have an actual political ideology. If they were genuinely working towards bringing about the Glorious Socialist Revolution I could understand them and even respect them, even if I strongly disagreed with them. But they have no real interest in socialism. Most of them are comfortably middle-class (or even wealthy). They are for the most part incredibly privileged. The last thing they want is actual socialism.

The SJW thing is not a political ideology and it has nothing to do with politics. It’s about religion. They don’t want to replace capitalism with socialism. They want to replace Christianity with their new warm and cuddly feel-good religion. That’s why they’re so venomous towards Christianity - Christianity is their rival religion.

In fact SJWism is a kind of Christian heresy - it’s Kumbaya Christianity with all the actual religious content removed leaving only the fuzzy caring and sharing bits. That’s why Kumbaya Christians and SJWs get along so well - there’s really not much difference between them.

SJWs are religious zealots. They’re not political ideologues. They don’t even understand politics. They’re not interested in political change. They’re funded by billionaires. They’re looking for salvation.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast November 29, 2015 9:38 PM  

The first time this thought came up years ago, I stopped and thought "do I have any leftist friends?" The answer was no. I realized that I had just not associated with them nor did I seek any to be a friend. I can't stand their particular brand of willful stupidity and wouldn't be able to handle listening to them yammer on about their pointless and asinine views. Why would I subject myself to that when there are so many better things to do? Even if they didn't discuss anything, if I knew they were leftists, I'd always know they were just plain wrong about everything, and they wouldn't be able to accept being so. I personally don't wish to hang out with types like that.

Blogger Mark Citadel November 29, 2015 9:40 PM  

I don't really understand why being 'unfriended' by leftists would be an issue. is it a generational thing?

Anonymous Brian November 29, 2015 9:49 PM  

"...the majority of Americans who support Donald Trump for president..."

LOL

More like 25% of the 25% of Americans who identify as Republican, i.e., 6-8% of Americans overall. About the same percent that believe the moon landings were faked, and I suspect a lot of overlap in that venn diagram.

Blogger Cail Corishev November 29, 2015 10:17 PM  

The SJW thing is not a political ideology and it has nothing to do with politics. It’s about religion.

Yes. It's what they mean by those COEXIST bumper stickers: a completely man-focused religion which they expect to replace all others after they've been stripped of their doctrines and anything else that makes them incompatible with it and each other. Since the focus will be on Man, their only devotions will be what we used to call the Corporal Works of Mercy: feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc. (Those are good works, but they aren't the point of a God-focused religion.) Lots of social justice and liberation theology, since those are man-focused. Since they won't worship God, they'll worship Man, the state, women, minorities, and various ideologies. The single mother replaces the virgin martyr; Pinktober replaces Lent.

It seems like a Christian heresy because it partly is: there are many self-identified Christians who want to dumb down Christianity into the Religion Of Nice so it can fit into this new system.

Blogger Desiderius November 29, 2015 10:19 PM  

VD,

"The problem so many Christians have is that they are so eager to accept others that they do so BEFORE they repent. Even God won't do that."

Exactly right.

Blogger Danby November 29, 2015 11:38 PM  

@Vox
Be the problem.
Thanks, I needed to hear that today.

Blogger LP999 November 29, 2015 11:55 PM  

67 Unfriending post 'try of logic' is a compliment.

Since they always lie, I'll wait n' see for the follow through of unfriending.

Anonymous 0007 November 30, 2015 7:28 AM  

what/who is david gerrold and why should we care?

Anonymous 0007 November 30, 2015 7:29 AM  

Almost forgot - what is "unfriend"?(and again why should we care?)

Blogger Were-Puppy November 30, 2015 8:29 AM  

@57 Jay

It's true that the SJW only respects strength. Who among us can actually understand and feel some pity for the monsters these people have become, yet still stage a ruthless attack on them as they no doubt simply require by virtue of their mental state of permanent revenge on all that is good and just.
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If you think of it as either you survive, or they do, that makes it much easier to decide.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 30, 2015 8:32 AM  

@62 kurt9

I've never "friended" Gerrold on Facebook anyways. I doubt most people who support Trump even know who he is.
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Another thing these idiots don't get. There are a lot of people who might like Trump, but are kind of suspicious of him. But then they see all the enemies he is gathering and that is the deciding factor in supporting Trump. I've heard this from probably 10 people now.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 30, 2015 8:37 AM  

@68 Brian
"...the majority of Americans who support Donald Trump for president..."

LOL

More like 25% of the 25% of Americans who identify as Republican, i.e., 6-8% of Americans overall. About the same percent that believe the moon landings were faked, and I suspect a lot of overlap in that venn diagram.
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Links for every number you've spewed out, or STFU Komrade Karl Rove.

Blogger Junius Stone November 30, 2015 9:27 AM  

I am not a Donald Trump fan. At all. When it comes to the strong, sober, sensible leader I'm looking for, he ain't it. But...if it is him or Hillary, the SCOTUS alone is why I will vote for him. There are others, but that is the primary.

David Gerrold is a good writer. And his publically expressed opinions can be sensible. But yes, in some others, he is the epitome intollerant SJW. I used to be FB friends with him. But he dumped me. Long before I took the conservative turn I am on now.

So yep, called it.

Blogger James Dixon November 30, 2015 9:45 AM  

> ... you should quarantine them as ruthlessly as you would quarantine them if they had ebola or some other lethal and infectious disease.

Because they do. And they actively try to spread it.

And until they are forced to accept that they are a minority and that continuing the "there is no place in society for..." screed will result in there being no place in society for them, nothing will change.

> Or not. Witness Harlan Ellison.

Ellison had some writing ability. Not to my taste, but that's purely a YMMV thing.

> David Gerrold on well-known NAMBLA supporter (and author of paedophilic wank fantasy HOGG) Samuel R. Delany:

Delany's writing, OTOH, is simply putrid.

> I doubt most people who support Trump even know who he is.

I doubt most of them cared either. The past tense being the important detail in this case.

I notice the brave SJW is too cowardly to make this post on his Facebook author page, though (https://www.facebook.com/davidgerroldauthor/). Apparently he does have some faint inkling of just how unpopular his position is.





Blogger SQT November 30, 2015 5:34 PM  

@65

Actually, having been raised by two liberals of the "bleeding heart" variety, I don't think being a SJW is about the worship of secularism at all. I think it's ultimately about having permission to totally selfish.

My dad is a one-issue voter, mostly, and that is issue is abortion. He's a rabid supporter. But no matter how hard he tries to wrap up his opinions in woman-supporting sanctimony it's always obvious he's only supports the issue because he knocked-up a woman some time in the past and an abortion allowed him to walk away consequence free. I know this because he has as much told me so (he's actually my step-dad and has no biological kids of his own).

My parents are always the first ones to vote for higher taxes and the first to jump through every hoop to avoid paying for them (only those horrible, corrupt rich people are supposed to pay taxes). And the only reason my parents vote for higher taxes is because they can pat themselves on the back for being so virtuous and *caring* while not actually lifting a finger to help anyone. They love tax funded programs for welfare and every social program you can think of-- they get to signal their virtue by voting for all this garbage while doing everything to avoid funding them. They don't give a dime to charity either.

Now my parents are retired and after grifting as much money as they could out of family and friends they live in Thailand on their social security and disability.

They are not good people but being liberal means never having to say you're sorry or wrong about anything.

Anonymous Anonymous November 30, 2015 6:24 PM  

Figure's he's a damn Jew.

Blogger Jay November 30, 2015 6:52 PM  

If you think of it as either you survive, or they do, that makes it much easier to decide.

Indeed it does.

Anonymous Brian November 30, 2015 11:37 PM  

@77 Were-Puppy:

1) Trump currently polling around 28%: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

2) Republicans self identify around 24%: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification

3) 6% believe moon landings fake: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1993/did-men-really-land-moon.aspx

My insincere apologies for each of my numerical claims in @68 being slightly off.

I don't care if you like Trump or not, but it's disingenuous to claim that anything close to a "majority" of Americans support him.

Blogger Jeffrey Quick December 01, 2015 6:17 AM  

I subbed to his public page and sent a message to try to get him to block me, but ended up unfollowing because I couldn’t stand the proggy ravings anymore. So I guess he won :-(

Blogger James Dixon December 01, 2015 1:28 PM  

> I don't care if you like Trump or not, but it's disingenuous to claim that anything close to a "majority" of Americans support him.

The " 'majority' of Americans" haven't supported any presidential candidate in my lifetime. It's questionable whether they ever have.

Of course, anyone with a high school reading ability would be able to parse Vox's sentence and realize he never claimed they did. I guess that leaves you out though.

Blogger Nohbody January 22, 2016 3:37 PM  

@32 Gerrold was so nice at Sasquan and then at the Hugo's...possessed.

He may not be scream-y about it like the more... visible, shall we say, SJWs, but he's fully in their camp. If he came across as "nice" it's because he was wearing a mask.

That entire Hugo awards "fuck the Puppies" ceremony of which he was the MC didn't just magically appear out of nowhere five seconds before he stepped out on the stage.

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