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Sunday, November 22, 2015

The uselessness of the EU

The hollow nature and intrinsic inutility of the EU has been exposed:
Now, the outrage over what the open borders principle made possible – the untrammelled movement of organised murderers into and out EU countries – is being appeased with emollient talk about how Schengen might be limited to a smaller number of states or be modified to allow random checks of individuals. But the talking shops of EU ministers can churn out as many of these mock solutions as they like: governments are still (mercifully) accountable to their electorates. They will do whatever their people believe to be necessary for their own security, and they will be justified in doing that.

But it is not only the free movement of peoples and goods (which turned out to include Kalashnikovs) which has come into question. Along with the right to “tighten” France’s borders, whatever that turns out to mean in practice, François Hollande also demanded – and got – permission to ignore EU budget limits so that he could increase government spending on security and defence.

So, to return to my original question: what’s left? If national borders may be reinstated by individual governments either with hasty barbed wire or officially reconstituted checkpoints, and EU budget rules can be thrown out whenever circumstances require, what does the authority of the EU Commission and Council and Parliament amount to? Possible answer: a largely useless, self-perpetuating, massively overpaid bureaucracy presiding over Potemkin institutions whose deliberations count for nothing when the lives of real people living under real governments are at stake.
Being newer and less stable, the EU will be the first multi-national "empire" to break up. It hasn't delivered on ANY of its promises; it was never anything more than the usual credit bubble surfing and elite resource extrication. However, it should be noted that it won't be too much longer before the USA begins to follow suit. The United States is no more a nation than the EU is, the only significant difference is that it has rival ethnicities and cultures rather than national fault lines.

Bob Prechter predicted both failures long ago. And while he hasn't been right about everything, I see absolutely no sign whatsoever that he hasn't gotten both of those calls right.

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52 Comments:

Blogger Phillip George November 22, 2015 6:55 AM  

simple words like "we" and "us" always required some intellectual commitment. Some hard graft, Some digging. Good fences make good definitions make good neighbours. Liberte, egalite, fraternite, sounds good doesn't it, but that's one problem in itself. It sounds good.

I've been wrong before about dates and might be again; but if Jesus isn't your flag why not? What did you replace Him with?

Blogger Steveo #238 November 22, 2015 7:11 AM  

With a crashing EU, the subservient nations will need to revive their national character; VD, who do you believe has the strongest connection to orthodox Christian values?

That foundation must be rebuilt to reverse the trend toward anti-civilization & it would be valuable to have a good assessment of where to focus resources.

Blogger Hammerli280 November 22, 2015 7:14 AM  

The EU breaking up I can see, though I suspect what will happen isn't a formal breakup but an abandonment of the idea of a supranational government. The free trade zone will survive.

The USA is another matter. There are no natural break lines any longer. Our national unity has never been as strong as that of a European state, but it's far stronger than state-level loyalties. I don't see the USA fracturing unless states start to break up. Even then, I don't see it happening.

Anonymous Poli_Mis November 22, 2015 7:46 AM  

Breakups in the US will be particularly tough due to divisions of metro versus rural. I wish we had it easier but we will not.

Blogger Jack Ward November 22, 2015 7:50 AM  

@3
Don't discount the state-ism of very many in the South. Within the bounds of the old Confederacy is an almost 'in the dna' deep seated oneness that could easily become another secession from the union. I imagine that if Hitlery becomes President the pot may boil over. Also remember that in all of America's wars Her greatest warriors, in large numbers, came from within the historical boundary's of Dixie.
Another note: just purchased David Goodman's latest book after getting the Castalia notice. Looking to it. If it's half as good as the extreme composting guide it's worth will be far more than $2.99. I got it from Amazon in order to do a verified purchase review. Looking forward to the print version from Castalia.

Blogger ScuzzaMan November 22, 2015 8:34 AM  

@2

The northern middle european countries. Ive met a lot of Rumanian christians in ge kast 8 tears in Germany - they are far stronger and resilient in their faith than any of their wealthier neighbours.

Perhaps proximity to other, less attractive examples, informs some of that strength. ...

Blogger Dave November 22, 2015 8:59 AM  

Hey Jack appreciate the tip of a CH new release. Always enjoy seeing those emails.

The pot hasn't boiled over with Clinton, Bush, or Obama don't expect the lizard queen to change that. Economic collapse or grid down scenario might be the catalyst but doubtful.

Anonymous Godfrey November 22, 2015 9:05 AM  

When a government ceases to be the perceived institutional protector of individual property rights and the just arbitrator of traditional rational common sense laws, then it simply ceases to be.

Ultimately the foundation of all government is the perceived legitimacy it holds in minds of the masses. Ask yourself, how much legitimacy does the USG and EU hold these days? If the focus of your existence is your anus, then maybe it still holds sway within your mind. But if your concerns, goals, and desires for your life are more deep and meaningful, then... well... you know the answer.

Blogger Joshua Sinistar November 22, 2015 9:17 AM  

The USA has purposefully been divided by the Government by bringing in ethnicities and races with no loyalties or ties to America. Their big mistake is assuming these fools will fight for the territories they occupy. Most still have loyalties to their homelands and those who want to capture territories here rely almost entire on largesse of government that requires the cooperation of Whites which now seems doubtful.
This Civil War is between Whites who ant their ancestral nation back and a polyglot of welfare tourists and savages who have little skills or ability to survive on their own without outside supports. Once their support of welfare and graft is cut off, the enemy is toast.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 9:17 AM  

Prechter's work in the markets just proves that a complex system cannot be reliably forecasted. Sadly, such proof has no predictive value regarding his larger thesis; sooner or later he'll be right.

Is his being off on timing by a couple decades a signal that we await the start of a Grand Supercycle Degree bear market (analogous to 1720-1784) or something much more difficult to face, a Millennial Degree bear market, analogous to the first five centuries AD?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 22, 2015 9:21 AM  

I look at it this way, those who hate me get nothing. So these days I can understand people who hate me being in charge, but the fact that they won't leave me alone and are creating a police state, that IMO makes this whole mess unstable.

Now if millions more Americans had my outlook we would probably be on the road to a break up or a devolution of centralized power, but for the Ned Flanders conservatives who want to be patted on the head while they make their money.

Anonymous Godfrey November 22, 2015 9:32 AM  

@11

We're already on the road. It's just that history sometimes moves at a slower pace than we may notice.

Blogger Hammerli280 November 22, 2015 9:50 AM  

@5 Jack: I think Southeners may be loyal to an idealized South, but state loyalty is weak. Certainly I don't see much of it.

Blogger James Dixon November 22, 2015 9:50 AM  

> Is his being off on timing by a couple decades a signal that we await the start of a Grand Supercycle Degree bear market (analogous to 1720-1784) or something much more difficult to face, a Millennial Degree bear market, analogous to the first five centuries AD?

Given that market gains for the past 15 years have barely kept up with inflation (if that), it could be argued that we're well into a major bear market.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 22, 2015 9:52 AM  

@1 Phillip George
but if Jesus isn't your flag why not? What did you replace Him with?
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Nothing but false hopes and disasters.

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 9:54 AM  

Hamtramck might be worth watching for the comedy.

I wonder when the Muslims will vote to replace Ham with Allah?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 22, 2015 9:54 AM  

@3 Hammerli280
The USA is another matter. There are no natural break lines any longer. Our national unity has never been as strong as that of a European state, but it's far stronger than state-level loyalties. I don't see the USA fracturing unless states start to break up. Even then, I don't see it happening.
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There is a lot of self segregating that happens. Maybe that will become more pronounced after people wake up and drop the phony SJW ideas.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 22, 2015 10:14 AM  

@8 Godfrey

Ultimately the foundation of all government is the perceived legitimacy it holds in minds of the masses.
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In the end of the last chapter of the 4th Generation Warfare Handbook they discuss this topic.

"The main organs of the state's government and the civilians who head and run them must be competent. They must do what states exist to do, above all providing order: safety of persons and property."

"A government that fails to govern effectively will cost the state legitimacy, regardless of whether it is democratic or autocratic."

So it appears the EU has violated these ideas, as well as the US working very hard on it. The very concept of "open borders" violates these ideas. The idea that our governments care more for Syrians or Iraqis than their own people violates these ideas.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 22, 2015 10:23 AM  

@16 The Other Robot
Hamtramck might be worth watching for the comedy.

I wonder when the Muslims will vote to replace Ham with Allah?
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I thought that word was pronounced like (Ham + Amtrak). Which might even play into a "train is fine" joke.

Blogger E. Burke November 22, 2015 10:25 AM  

The USA will endure as long as USD is a reserve currency. After that, all bets are off.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 10:42 AM  

How amazing would it be if the nation-state USA, born at the end of the English-speaking world's Grand Supercycle wave 2, broke apart officially at the end of Grand Supercycle wave 4 (in about a century?)
History is full of such coherence.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 10:49 AM  

I concur. Only narrow measures of a few sociometers (like the SPX or DJIA) are near all time nominal highs, and only then due to historic levels of currency debasement.

The top of a three century trend is not an event, it's a process. Prechter's "At the Crest of the Tidal Wave" (1995) was more prophetically titled than was apparent 20 years ago.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 22, 2015 10:56 AM  

Or there could be some Black Swan, or a manufactured event that spins out of control.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 22, 2015 11:09 AM  

@20 E. Burke
The USA will endure as long as USD is a reserve currency. After that, all bets are off.
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The South still endures, even though the old Confederate money is worthless.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 11:29 AM  

That the USA as a massive, unaccountable nation-state will end is certain; nothing lasts forever. The kickoff will be wealth destruction on an unprecedented scale as the manic trust that allowed the filling of an ocean of dollar-based IOU's disappears and most of that "value" evaporates. Bonds should crater as interest rates skyrocket in a wealth destruction deflationary cataclysm.

Then too will disappear tolerance for even minor differences in culture, and outward signals of culture like skin color, language and dress will eventually be incitements to violence everywhere, much as the are already today in so-called minority enclaves.

If Socionomics is correct, the coming 100 years or so will likely be a series of declines & rallies, overall going sideways, with each rally failure and subsequent decline setting off ever more intense social strife.

As James Dixon wrote, this all began years ago. The BLM crap and replacement level immigration are just the orchestra tuning a bit; the overture for this tragedy hasn't even begun.

Anonymous WillBest November 22, 2015 12:11 PM  

The United States is no more a nation than the EU is, the only significant difference is that it has rival ethnicities and cultures rather than national fault lines.

This is why the end of the US will be a lot more bloody. There aren't predefined breaking points. Regions will need to be cleansed of culturally undesirables. I figure Midwestern cities might suffer the worst. A place like NYC or Seattle could declare itself independent of the rest of their state and have a port of entry. You aren't getting to Chicago, St. Louis, etch without going through a bunch of other people's territory.

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 12:26 PM  

It took a brush with death for this guy to realize that the games the elites play with other people's lives can have serious blowback.

Also, if you are going to head for the exits in a situation like that, you better do so before they become target rich environments.

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 12:29 PM  

A place like NYC or Seattle could declare itself independent of the rest of their state and have a port of entry.

Where are they going to get their food and other goods from?

When the cost of procuring everything a city needs to function goes up by 100% or more cities become much less viable.

Once sanitation goes to shit there will be lots of death ... and sending out ships is not the way to manage an international financial empire.

Anonymous BigGaySteve November 22, 2015 12:39 PM  

A place like NYC or Seattle could declare itself independent of the rest of their state and have a port of entry.

Pretty much every city benefited from white privilege. Before affirmative action hiring, infrastructure was built/designed by whites to accommodate future growth. LA had almost all of its water infrastructure built by whites/Asians with shovels, picks, wheelbarrows and donkeys in a year, while affirmative action fixing just a water main with the latest equipment takes 6 years. Once that extra capacity gets used up you get stuff like the 2 recently upgraded levees in New Orleans being the ones that broke during Katrina. The extra capacity was planned around the nation being 90+% k selected whites.

OT: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/11/one-can-only-hope-that-christians.html
"So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians."
See also: "Scandal: U.S. Christian Groups Prioritize Muslim Refugees over Christian Ones. Here’s Why."
Their plight involves a nightmarish catch-22. When Christians flee as refugees they cannot go to UN-run refugee camps because there they face the same persecution and terror from which they fled. If they are not in the refugee camps they are not included in the application process for asylum. The U.S. State Department knows this, but continues to allow the office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) to select refugees for asylum with no regard to the endangered Christians and other religious minorities. According to statements in the Sunday Express from an ISIS defector and aid workers in the UN camps, ISIS is sending teams of trained assassins disguised as refugees to kidnap and kill Christians.

Blogger kurt9 November 22, 2015 12:42 PM  

Its interesting to speculate on what a balkanized North America would be like. Robert Heinlein wrote a novel that featured such a future North America. Jim Hogan second to last novel before he died also featured such a North America. I think a disintegration of the U.S. would probably be accompanied by a disintegration of both Canada and Mexico as well. I think the Pacific Northwest, western Canada, and Alaska would form a new country. Call it Cascadia or Occidentia. It would be very Asia-Pacific oriented in terms of trade and commerce and is likely to be the most successful of the post U.S.A. nations. Texas would naturally form its own country that may or may not include much of the traditional south. It could also include Chihuahua and several other northern states of Mexico. Much of the Southwest and California would be Republica del Norte, which would be independent of central and southern Mexico. The mid west would probably join with the Canadian central provinces (Ontario, Saskatoon, etc.) to form the scandanian/Minnesota-like social democracy. The maritine provinces would form a country with New England that may or may not include the mid Atlantic. I think its the U.S. east coast that will experience the most violence during the transition.

The reason why I think Cascadia will be successful even though three of its largest cities (Vancouver, Seattle, Portland) are full of liberal moonbats is because the transition where they find themselves an independent country will be very traumatic socially and economically. They will be forced to become more free-market oriented and much more oriented on international trade and commerce which will push them into becoming more free market. Think of Cascadia as a giant version of Singapore or Hong Kong.

I think this kind of balkanization will occur in much of the world (India, China, Russia, etc,) and will result in what my professors at Thunderbird called the "thousand state sovereignty" world. My time at Thunderbird was quite good. Unlike most universities where the professors are left of Lenin, the professors at Thunderbird were very pro-free-market and economic "liberalism" (liberalism meaning free markets in the rest of the world). This was because many of them were industry veterans rather than academic PhD's.

I think a balkanized North America, and the thousand state sovereignty world as a whole, could be quite prosperous. Such decentralization will radically reduce the cumbersome government regulation that impedes innovation in areas such as bio-engineering and bio-medicine. For example, the biggest impediment in the way of developing effective anti-aging therapies is FDA regulation. If the FDA goes away, anti-aging therapies are likely to come much sooner and will be much cheaper as well. In many ways, the balkanized world is something to look forward to rather than to be feared. People with good technical skills ought to do well through and after the transition.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 12:45 PM  

"You aren't getting to Chicago, St. Louis, etch without going through a bunch of other people's territory."
Only if someone blockades the St. Lawrence Seaway and embargoes river travel. Back to the 19th century we go.

Blogger kurt9 November 22, 2015 12:50 PM  

You know, I think much of the hand-wringing I see on the part of both liberals and conservatives about threats to one's long term future are very misplaced. Once I sat down and figured out all of the potential existential threats to my long term future. I looked at everything from global warming, peak oil, financial collapse, religion, etc. and came to the conclusion that there is only one major threat I need to deal with. That is the plain, old, vanilla aging process. A very distant second place threat is a car accident. Everything else was in the noise, statistically speaking. This is why I have a life extension regimen that consists of various supplements, fitness that includes both body-building and swimming, as well as the ALA chelation therapy I did over a four year period some years back. It is also why I support the development of the SENS therapies that will actually cure aging.

I will worry about the other threats to my existence once I have secured my actuarial escape velocity.

Blogger hightecrebel November 22, 2015 12:54 PM  

State loyalty may not be obvious, but it's still there. Most of it is hidden as regional pride, but even up here in northern New England you'll find it simmering. Just because the elites make southern N.E. their playground doesn't mean the blue collar types are that pleased with how it's progressing.

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 1:18 PM  

The reason why I think Cascadia will be successful even though three of its largest cities (Vancouver, Seattle, Portland) are full of liberal moonbats is because the transition where they find themselves an independent country will be very traumatic socially and economically.

Is that a code phrase for lots of people will die?

They will be forced to become more free-market oriented and much more oriented on international trade and commerce which will push them into becoming more free market. Think of Cascadia as a giant version of Singapore or Hong Kong.

Hong Kong and Singapore would not exist in a disordered world.

Blogger toadbile November 22, 2015 1:20 PM  

EU made many bureaucrats fat and happy.
Many dinners, no real work:
very successful enterprise, from their view.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau November 22, 2015 1:20 PM  

The sub prime mortgage bubble is blowing up again. Every other commercial on the radio and every other reality show is about learning how to flip houses just like 2006. When it bursts this time, there will be no too big to fail.

Anonymous toadbile November 22, 2015 1:29 PM  

"...will be very traumatic socially and economically."
Is that a code phrase for lots of people will die?

It could mean lots of people will be very uncomfortable when they can no longer find food or natural gas, when their benefits card no longer gets them free stuff, when they look out the window to see a mob of angry people with non-functional EBT cards who have no free stuff. I may mean that goods and materials stop their normal flow and many jobs stop existing until a new economy sorts itself out. A year or two while you sort out to whom you should be paying taxes for the hope of seeing roads repaired again someday. And yes, it may mean angry enclaves of vibrant youth deciding to purify their neighborhoods, in which case lots of people will die. Once the EBT cards stop working, what good are you to them?

Blogger Jordan179 November 22, 2015 1:31 PM  

America has several advantages the European Union lacks. The Constitution, which is short and sweet enough to command some loyalty, rather than being a bureaucratic laundry list. A national tradition -- what is left of it after its own intellectual classes have been eroding it for half a century. And the fact that its Founders understood the importance of both loyalty and force in keeping together any polity.

The European Union will split but may reconstitute more realistically in time. America may manage to avoid splitting at all. Though to do this, we will need at least one competent leader able and willing to identify and defend the American tradition, and successfully sell most of the populace on the idea that those who want to abandond it are traitors, rather than mere loyal dissidents.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 2:18 PM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets November 22, 2015 2:23 PM  

Re aging, those of us with kids also worry about what comes next, too. Not that we're responsible for them or in much position to change things once they're adults. It still matters, though.

Blogger Groot November 22, 2015 3:47 PM  

There's elites and then there's elites. In America, at least, if your success is merit-based, there's little resentment and things work. The current government-based elite is placed into the racket more capriciously, and things begin to fall apart. Reflecting Jourdan's dismay at the corruption that is the water the fish in DC swim in, however, people feel powerless.

But it is a system, built certainly at the behest of elites directing the construction, but also made of materials and knowledge which are very quickly obsolescing. Right now, it feels like elections are merely the livestock voting in a new farmer. A lot of the animals like being fed and being taken care of. Sure, some get eaten, but surely the farmer is benevolent.

Now, though, it's elite vs. hyper-elite. It's the top 10% vs the top 1% of the top 1%, and the top .01% have looted beyond their ability to maintain it. Things are about to change, and quickly, as new systems are built with defenses against the looting. Some, like kurt9, can glimpse it, but mostly it's like describing a sunset to blind people. Exciting times are immanent, though, I assure you.

Blogger Feather Blade November 22, 2015 4:09 PM  

@30 Call it Cascadia or Occidentia

The borders that Cascadians usually propose extend to the Rocky Mountains. Cascadians like to ignore the fact that residents of the intermontane Inland Empire (where they keep all of the farms and orchards) cordially despise the moonbat-infested coastal cities.

Deliberately incorporating such a basic division in one's nation is not a recipe for long-term success.

Anonymous WillBest November 22, 2015 4:50 PM  

Hong Kong and Singapore seemed to get along okay as a city state. I don't know why NYC couldn't do likewise.

Blogger kurt9 November 22, 2015 5:12 PM  

Of course NYC would do fine as a city-state.

I think most of the trauma will financial instead of actual physical violence. You know, unlike the eu. The dissolution of the USA could be something as simple and non-dramatic as a constitutional convention that dissolves the federal government.

In any case, I think we're headed for a snow-crash like scenario.

Blogger kurt9 November 22, 2015 5:17 PM  

The liberal moonbats of the Pacific Northwest exist largely on largess of the federal government. If the federal government goes away, these people will have to buck up and learn to do something productive for a change. This is why I think the uber-left in these cities will go away once the area becomes essentially a giant Singapore like city state.

The city-state will come into vogue again.

Blogger Kirk Parker November 22, 2015 5:32 PM  

dc. @ 31:

Do you have any idea how narrow the St. Lawrence Seaway is? Plenty of parts are subject to small arms fire, and there isn't a place not vulnerable to late-1800's-vintage artillery. Will's comment stands.

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 5:33 PM  

Hong Kong and Singapore seemed to get along okay as a city state. I don't know why NYC couldn't do likewise.

Let me get this strait. Because HK and Singapore are trade hubs in a relatively stable world you think that NYC could be come such during the breakup of the USA? What would they trade?

You know, I have a Bridge in San Francisco Bay I would like to sell ...

Blogger Tom K. November 22, 2015 5:35 PM  

From a link above, here's what one Frenchman learned from his first-hand experience of Terror: I need to LOVE Muslims MORE!

"But according to Pierre, there is a way out of this vicious circle of hatred.

“I don’t have to do that, I’m not a monster, I’m not going to play the same game that Islamists do. I’m going to say to everybody that I love them … I’m sure if you’re so positive and all those things – you can give an energy, good vibration to everybody. I’m sure it can be something good, and I’m sure we can change a world like this.”

Not just Magic Dirt - Magic Thinking!

This man did not deserve to survive!

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 6:02 PM  

But according to Pierre, there is a way out of this vicious circle of hatred.

It's too late now, but Western nations probably should not have been meddling with the Middle East and those honor cultures in the first place.

You cannot use 'turn the other cheek' when dealing with people whose DNA suits them for an honor culture. You have to be just as violent.

Blogger The Other Robot November 22, 2015 6:40 PM  

We had him down as a rent boy

‘We had him down as a rent boy, he was always hanging out with that kind of crowd,’ Julien, the bartender of a club visited by Abdeslam a month ago, told the Sunday Times.

Blogger Tom K. November 22, 2015 7:29 PM  

From a link above, here's what one Frenchman learned from his first-hand experience of Terror: I need to LOVE Muslims MORE!

"But according to Pierre, there is a way out of this vicious circle of hatred.

“I don’t have to do that, I’m not a monster, I’m not going to play the same game that Islamists do. I’m going to say to everybody that I love them … I’m sure if you’re so positive and all those things – you can give an energy, good vibration to everybody. I’m sure it can be something good, and I’m sure we can change a world like this.”

Not just Magic Dirt - Magic Thinking!

This man did not deserve to survive!

Blogger TheRedSkull November 22, 2015 11:11 PM  

So you're saying it's a Euseless bureaucrazi? Reich or wrong, that's going to Brussell some feathers.

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